Time Nick Message 22:52 mtj doublefail, both patent and legal systems 22:47 mtj interesting apple/samsung discussion -> http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20120828225612963 21:37 jcamins Didn't you make cole slaw for a picnic? 21:37 cait picnic? 21:29 jcamins How was the picnic? 21:29 * cait waves 21:25 drojf good night 20:21 jcamins lol 20:20 drojf what is it with people running off after i write to them? maybe i should take a bath 20:19 oleonard Bye #koha 20:19 drojf oleonard: "3 Share private lists with another patron (as described before). Can be turned on/off with a preference." sounds like you should be able to change the behaviour somewhere 20:19 * oleonard must leave 20:19 jcamins I just want to install it because I like their QueryParser. 20:19 jcamins oleonard: heck no. 20:17 oleonard Are you getting into the Evergreen biz jcamins? 20:17 jcamins I have to say- I prefer the Koha installation procedure to the Evergreen installation procedure. 20:17 drojf depends on the perspective i guess 20:16 slef improved, huh? 20:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7310 enhancement, P3, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Improving permissions on lists (virtual shelves) 20:16 oleonard git bisect blames Bug 7310 20:15 slef that doesn't usually happen 20:14 slef hrmph 20:14 slef ERROR 1044 (42000) at line 4: Access denied for user 'debian-sys-maint'@'localhost' to database 'koha_main' 20:06 drojf oleonard: looks very secret to me 20:05 oleonard A "private" list I created in the ByWater demo: http://catalog.bywatersolutions.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-shelves.pl?viewshelf=29&sortfield= 20:04 slef (ot:paralympics) ah but all except the 60 minutes highlights show a week after the event are on cable. Well that sucks. 20:00 slef oleonard: o_O 19:59 oleonard >:( 19:59 oleonard Oh nice, private shelves are no longer private in 3.8.x 19:59 slef ok, so our presenters exaggerated or I misheard 19:58 oleonard "U.S. audiences must contend with 5 1/2 hours of programming — some of which will air only after the 11-day competition in London has concluded on Sept. 9." 19:58 oleonard http://news.yahoo.com/full-tv-coverage-paralympics-just-not-us-155847948--finance.html 19:57 slef is it right that there's no tv coverage of the paralympics in the US? 19:50 slef I want a quiet life ;) 19:49 drojf you'll never know if you don't try ;) 19:48 slef drojf: they're not. Only just persuaded them off 3.0... I think head might be a bit of a shock 19:48 drojf or your client is 19:48 drojf slef: no, you don't want that on a production system unless you are very adventurous :) 19:46 drojf the wiki? have done that before 19:46 * slef backs stuff out 19:46 slef which I don't want on a production system, do I? 19:46 slef bah, it's late and I was blindly following someone else's notes which said squeeze-dev 19:46 drojf i think so 19:46 jcamins Yes. 19:46 slef hang on... is squeeze-dev head and squeeze 3.8.x? 19:45 drojf well, i tried ;) 19:45 slef heh 19:45 oleonard Oooh burn. 19:44 drojf hi nengard, got a minute? documentation question 19:43 drojf you have to have dreams in life! 19:42 * oleonard plans to be the last man on Earth still using RSS 19:42 drojf :) 19:42 oleonard It is, if you take the time to do it :) 19:41 drojf "This sounded like a pretty easy enhancement to develop." … 2008-03-04 19:35 oleonard Hm, but Koha would still ask that the user be logged in without some rewriting... 19:34 oleonard I've seen some sites offer "private" RSS feeds, which are merely feeds with long obscure URLs 19:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1917 enhancement, P3, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Add RSS Feeds for Lists 19:34 oleonard I'm working, why not, on Bug 1917, and thinking about RSS feeds for private lists. A good idea? 19:25 oleonard Hi wizzyrea 19:21 * wizzyrea waves 18:58 oleonard You're right jcamins, I just hadn't found it yet. 18:55 jcamins oleonard: missing an [% END %] 18:55 * oleonard wonders what might be causing this template error: "unexpected end of input at /home/oleonard/kohaclone/C4/Templates.pm line 128." 18:51 * oleonard encourages wajasu to create an entry on http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars 18:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8607 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , overdue_notices is broken 18:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8378 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , <fine> syntax not working on overdues anymore 18:47 wajasu hopes that bug 8378 is signed off so that bug 8607 works with <fine> as well 18:32 jcamins drojf: I suspect not. 18:30 drojf in the manual, is the example for a matching rule correct? it has tag '001', subfield 'a' set to match control number, but the control fields don't have subfields AFAIK http://manual.koha-community.org/3.8/en/catadmin.html#recordmatchingrules 18:25 drojf ok that is not too long anymore 18:24 slef drojf: maybe less than a week to go 18:24 slef drojf: yep 18:24 drojf slef: still on mobile internet? 18:22 slef it's logged me out AGAIN 18:22 slef oh 18:22 slef What the heck, wiki??? 18:22 slef You must confirm your e-mail address before editing pages. Please set and validate your e-mail address through your user preferences. 18:22 slef " The action you have requested is limited to users in the group: Users. 17:42 * oleonard enthusiastically votes for whatever is in the majority! 17:39 gmcharlt we have achieved unanimity! ;) 17:35 jcamins +1 17:35 gmcharlt i.e., automatically truncated left-anchored phrase searches? 17:35 gmcharlt quick poll - what would folks think of having call number searches (under staff and opac advanced search) default to callnum,phr,rt ? 17:03 * oleonard falls under the can't-connect-to-git cloud again 16:59 huginn oleonard: The operation succeeded. 16:59 oleonard @later tell mbalmer You can find the Koha logo in various formats in misc/interface_customization 16:57 oleonard It's in misc/interface_customization 16:56 oleonard Did mbalmer ever find the Koha logo he was looking for? 16:50 * oleonard waves from southeast Ohio 16:47 * jcamins waves from New York City. 16:45 * druthb waves from eastern Kansas 16:45 druthb Hi there! :) 16:44 nengard say hello :) 16:44 nengard hello #koha - at training for a new koha library 16:33 druthb yabetcha. 16:33 libsysguy thanks druthb 16:28 druthb amount is the original fine amount, and amountoutstanding is how much they owe. 16:27 libsysguy in accountlines, what is the difference between amount and amountoutstanding? 16:05 Joubu bye++ 15:30 wahanui privet, oleonard 15:30 oleonard Hi 15:29 Brooke hey Owen :) 15:09 reiveune bye 15:08 Brooke o/ 14:57 mveron Will do... 14:56 rambutan Well, give yourself a raise! :) 14:55 mveron rambutan: Not if you are your own boss :-) 14:54 rambutan ah, isn't overtime pay great? 14:54 * mveron faces an evening shift for some work that urgently has do be done... 14:52 mveron jcamins: No... But it would be a nice idea... :-) 14:48 jcamins mveron: I heard you don't bake cookies in your dishwasher! 14:26 jcamins My guess (keeping in mind that I haven't had problems with X since xfree86 was current) is that either A) it's the graphics card driver, or B) the X autoconfig didn't run and you don't have any screens configured. 14:24 WaqarAzeem thanks for the reply. yeah that's rigth not to install the UI. but its wired to find this. 14:22 jcamins WaqarAzeem: that sounds like an X issue. Unfortunately, I don't know how you would fix it. As an aside, it's generally a better idea not to run a desktop environment on servers. 14:20 WaqarAzeem Hello! i tried to install the gnome-desktop-environment on squeeze virtual appliance... after reboot got a blank screen. the error log shows: No monitor specified for screen "Default Screen Section" 13:33 tcohen I had for 3.0.x 13:33 slef there are three around - one on the wiki and two I can send but can't currently upload to the wiki because I'm mobile. 13:32 tcohen i'll have to implement it ! 13:32 jcamins tcohen: there should be, though. 13:32 tcohen oh my 13:32 jcamins tcohen: I don't think there is. 13:32 jcamins Right. 13:32 tcohen a user is suspended by fines.pl, we'd like to be able to have a way of looking for suspensions on a user for a period of time? 13:32 slef ah logos 13:31 slef whowhat? 13:31 tcohen is there a way we can have suspensions logged the same way fines are? 13:30 jcamins Thanks. 13:30 Joubu jcamins: I will propose a new patch 13:29 jcamins slef might have a copy. 13:29 jcamins No idea where to find it, though. 13:29 tcohen hi #koha 13:28 jcamins mtj made it. 13:28 * eythian is off to a bbq 13:27 jcamins I think it makes sense to keep the name as it is now. 13:27 mbalmer np, tnx anyways 13:27 jcamins mbalmer: I do not. Possibly the wiki. 13:27 * jcamins has no idea where wahanui got that from. 13:26 Joubu jcamins: ok but as I said, am123 is not a good name :) 13:26 jcamins where? 13:26 wahanui i heard jcamins was A-Grade developper on Koha willing to rewrite it from top to bottom. Good Luck jcamins 13:26 jcamins jcamins? 13:26 jcamins Joubu: they do different things in different ways, so I think it's not a problem. 13:26 wahanui jcamins, is, like, there something identifiably unique about them 13:26 mbalmer jcamins, do you know where? 13:26 kf Joubu: if they work in different ways... I think it might not be a problem 13:25 Joubu kf: ok if you think it's in used, we have to keep it. But is not too much to have 3 plugins for stocknumber? 13:25 jcamins There's a PS somewhere. 13:25 drojf bye kf 13:25 mbalmer do we have a vectorized Koha logo around somewhere? PDF or PS that is. 13:25 kf bye all 13:25 kf but I have to leave now :) 13:25 mbalmer FOLKS! 13:24 jcamins Hehe. 13:24 Joubu jcamins: it's "préfixe" :) 13:24 kf there are more countries using stocknumbers :) 13:24 * jcamins doesn't know the French word for "prefix." 13:24 kf Joubu: I think it is used 13:24 Joubu no :) am= Aix Marseille 2 cities 13:23 Joubu I agree with you, it is not userfriendly to remove an existing plugin. 13:23 jcamins Oh, I thought that was "am" = French for "prefix" and "123" = example number. 13:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7992 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , new plugin about Automatic Number incrementing inventory. Prefix management from a authorised values list 13:23 Joubu jcamins: hi :) For Bug 7992: In fact I think this plugin is not used. "am123" is the name of a BibLibre's customer. 13:22 Joubu hi all 13:22 kf byeall :) 13:21 * druthb chucks skittles, not wood. 13:13 * eythian : filling wahanui with useless factoids since 2010 or so 13:13 wahanui okay, eythian. 13:13 eythian no wahanui, woodchuck is how much wood would a jcamins chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood 13:12 wahanui OK, eythian. 13:12 eythian wahanui: woodchuck is how much would could a jcamins chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood 13:12 wahanui eythian: i'm not following you... 13:12 eythian wahanui: woodchuck 13:12 drojf jcamins++ # one day i will find a question you cannot answer ;) 13:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6506 critical, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , deleting patron history missing errors 13:11 eythian ah, bug 6506 13:11 drojf jcamins: okay, i will do that. thanks a lot 13:10 jcamins Any other option is worse. 13:10 jcamins Figure out which call numbers are duplicated, and don't fill in the barcode for *any* of the items with those call numbers. 13:10 kf drojf: would leaving them empty be an option? 13:10 jcamins Here's what you need to do: 13:09 jcamins If it doesn't add the item, you won't have an item. 13:09 eythian drojf: it's never worth overloading fields like that, someone always changes something that causes problems like this. 13:09 jcamins If it blanks them, when someone tries to check out the second item that was imported, they'll end up with the wrong book on their record. 13:09 jcamins There is a problem either way the stage import handles it. 13:08 jcamins Now I understand. 13:08 jcamins drojf: okay. 13:08 drojf kf: yes 13:08 drojf jcamins: because up until a few weeks ago, all call numbers were distinct, so the copy in the barcode field would have been too. that changed unfortunately, because somebody decided to have the same call number for several items 13:07 kf jcamins: dealing with crazy data I guess 13:07 jcamins Once we understand what drojf is doing. :) 13:07 jcamins kf: I haven't tried in a long time, but I thought it added them anyway, wreaking havoc upon the poor unsuspecting catalog. Easy enough to test. 13:06 kf and I think the duplicated didn't get added.. hm. 13:06 kf we have "overwritten" items in the past where some items had been missing 13:06 jcamins Why are you expecting duplicates? 13:06 jcamins Then we get to the duplicate issue. 13:06 kf but I thought it would just not import them at all 13:06 jcamins drojf: okay, I am with you so far. 13:06 kf that's possible 13:06 kf that happens when you just read back... 13:06 jcamins I think stage records has always handled it. 13:05 kf oh, 13:05 jcamins kf: that's for bulkmarcimport. 13:05 kf but not sure in which version 13:05 kf eythian developed it 13:05 kf drojf: I think there is an importoption to deal with duplicate barcodes 13:04 drojf because you need the barcode to check out stuff. it will take some time until everything has a real barcode 13:03 jcamins Right. 13:03 drojf you mean why the copy of call number to the barcode field? 13:03 drojf sorry for confusing you :) 13:03 jcamins Wait- why are you doing that? 13:02 jcamins So what are the duplicate barcodes? 13:02 jcamins Right. 13:02 drojf the plan was to put the call number both into the call number and barcode fields when importing 13:01 drojf what do you mean? 13:01 jcamins So what are you importing? 13:01 * jcamins scratches his head. 13:01 drojf because we did not have barcodes in the old system. so we decided to use call number as barcode for import and then switch to real barcodes when it is imported. now that some call numbers got changed, some are ambigous 13:00 jcamins But why do you have duplicate barcodes? 13:00 jcamins Yes. 12:59 jcamins Oh. 12:59 drojf no i mean before i import the data, i could prepare the data with blank barcodes and that would be ok to import? 12:59 oleonard Okay, meeting time. bbl. 12:59 jcamins I haven't tried it, but I think it just blanks the barcodes silently. 12:59 jcamins No, I don't think it gives you a choice. 12:58 drojf oh that would be friendly :) so having blank barcodes would be an option if i know which items are problematic beforehand? 12:57 jcamins drojf: blank the barcodes, I think. 12:56 drojf what will koha do if i import records via "tools" and some have identical barcodes? 12:54 eythian later 12:54 mtompset Have a good day (24 hour period), everyone. 12:52 jcamins True. 12:51 eythian well, better still it delete the correct history. 12:51 jcamins eythian: better it do nothing than erase all reading history everywhere. 12:51 * eythian notes that "delete reading history" doesn't seem to work. 12:46 oleonard Glad to hear it mtompset 12:44 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8350 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Signed Off , Searching for a 10 or 13 digit string (with a number in it) that does not exist in one's catalog will fail to affect SQL statement correctly in C4::Breeding 12:44 mtompset Thanks for the assignment, oleonard. I figured out a test plan for bug 8350, and jcamins was kind enough to sign it off. 12:43 mtompset Greetings, oleonard. 12:38 kf :) 12:38 kf : 12:38 kf hi oleonard 12:38 oleonard Hi #koha 12:29 mtompset But I'll look at that... tomorrow. 12:29 mtompset which means there may be a tmpl_process3.pl bug. 12:27 mtompset Actually, the funny thing is... I was looking at the .po file and the second error in my bug report was a result of what seemed like commented out rules. 12:12 kf I hate it when things are trying to be smarter than I am - better leave it like this 12:11 mtompset Aren't irc clients supposed to be smart enough to know what you meant? ;) 12:04 kf yeah... I always do that 12:04 eythian kf_mtg: your nick change didn't work 12:03 kf_mtg ah, it went well :) 12:02 mtompset how did the workshop go? 12:01 kf_mtg but quite busy - leaving earlier today and was away for 2 days because of our koha workshop 12:01 kf_mtg it's ok, I am back 12:01 * kf_mtg nick kf 12:00 mtompset Oh, your name was kf_mtg, I didn't want to disturb you, kf. 11:58 kf_mtg since they changed the output of the script it got a bit hard to tell without -v 11:58 kf_mtg those probably isn't 11:58 kf_mtg some are fatal 11:58 kf_mtg yeah, but they can be serious - it depends 11:58 jcamins kf_mtg: oh, I didn't realize those error messages were ever a serious problem- I've seen them many times, and it installs just fine. 11:57 kf_mtg jcamins: I didn't test it - sometimes you can, sometimes the parser gets too confused and dies 11:57 kf_mtg but not for 3.8.2 probably 11:56 jcamins You can install Spanish even with that. 11:56 kf_mtg someone else seems to have 11:56 kf_mtg oh i didn't fix it 11:55 kf_mtg hm? 11:55 mtompset Well, if you can't install spanish, it is. :P 11:54 jcamins Yeah, that wasn't a real bug. 11:54 mtompset So, I figured maybe she fixed it. 11:54 mtompset Yes, but she commented on my bug report. 11:54 eythian anyone can always add more translations 11:54 mtompset So I'll have to ask kf later about it. 11:53 mtompset This pootle thing looked possible. But I noticed kf seems to have touched spanish already. 11:53 mtompset first two, can't solve. 11:52 mtompset I was just running through my list of 25 bugs from the top. 11:52 mtompset No, it came up... I blame my internet. 11:50 jcamins I must have misspelled something. 11:49 jcamins pootle is http://translate.koha-community.org/ 11:49 wahanui jcamins: I forgot pootle 11:49 jcamins forget pootle 11:49 jcamins It's up for me. 11:49 wahanui i heard pootle was http://translate.koha-community.org/ 11:49 mtompset pootle? 11:49 mtompset Ah... Well, pootle is down for me too. 11:48 jcamins That's the software. 11:48 mtompset Why is it called pootle? 11:48 jcamins mtompset: 65-character wrapping is fine, too. 11:48 jcamins pootle is http://translate.koha-community.org/ 11:47 wahanui jcamins: I forgot pootle 11:47 jcamins forget pootle 11:47 wahanui mtompset: sorry... 11:47 mtompset wahanui, I wanted a URL. 11:47 wahanui rumour has it pootle is down for me - can someone else check 11:47 mtompset pootle? 11:47 mtompset jcamins++ 11:46 mtompset (a) Yes, I figured that after the fact, (b) 65 all the way, baby ;), and (c) 1 d0n't L1k3 cR's. ;) 11:43 * jcamins fixed it for this patch, just for the future. 11:42 jcamins When writing patch messages, please be sure to A) put a brief -- ~50 character -- description on the first line, B) put an enlarged description manually wrapped at 72 characters starting on the third line, and C) use carriage returns. 11:38 mtompset Thanks for testing it, jcamins. 11:35 jcamins Looks good. 11:35 mtompset One bad patch, and I get "if". :P 11:34 jcamins If it works. 11:34 jcamins I am doing so. 11:34 mtompset I suppose you could sign one off and obsolete the rest. ;) 11:33 jcamins However, it doesn't matter because there should only be one patch. 11:33 jcamins Right, you forgot to label 3.6.x. 11:32 mtompset Identical in content, but they were all done in the systems they are labeled. :P 11:32 jcamins All identical. :) 11:32 mtompset I've never attempted to apply a patch, so I wasn't sure how that works. 11:31 mtompset 3.6 has line shifts. 11:31 jcamins Yup. 11:30 jcamins Are all three patches identical? 11:29 jcamins I need to prune some branches, I think. 11:29 jcamins Hm. 11:28 mtompset Thanks, jcamins. 11:28 jcamins I will test your patch. 11:26 mtompset okay, so I patch over-killed. 11:25 jcamins Doesn't matter. 11:25 jcamins git will handle line number changes, if the lines in that area are the same. 11:24 mtompset oh... does it make sense that the C4::Breeding version is smaller in master than 3.8? 11:23 mtompset well there were line number shifts between 3.6 and 3.8 11:22 jcamins You should only attach separate patches if the patch for master won't apply to the previous branches. 11:22 mtompset though the 3.8 and master patches are essentially identical. 11:21 mtompset I even attached 3.6, 3.8, and master patches. 11:21 jcamins Good. 11:21 mtompset not to mention... the description is it. 11:20 mtompset It's in the comments on the bug. 11:20 jcamins mtompset: put the test plan on the bug. 11:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8350 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , Searching for a 10 or 13 digit string (with a number in it) that does not exist in one's catalog will fail to affect SQL statement correctly in C4::Breeding 11:16 mtompset bug 8350 11:16 mtompset Okay... I've done that. I even figured out what to do to test it. 11:15 jcamins_away Sometimes a bug report is assigned to the wrong person. 11:15 jcamins_away Generally. 11:15 jcamins_away mtompset: write the patch. 11:15 mtompset What does an "assignee" have to do for a bug report? 10:33 kf_mtg eythian++ 10:32 mtompset you don't have synaptic installed on a server, ibeardslee . :) 09:17 ibeardslee things like synaptic seem to be able to track that and completely remove more 09:16 eythian oh, yeah. If it's already removed I suppose apt-get won't do anything. 09:15 mtompset eythian++ 09:15 mtompset Seems I have to get lower "dpkg --purge", but thanks. :) 09:06 eythian apt-get remove --purge 09:06 mtompset So how do I toast the config files? 09:04 eythian r=remove c=config files still around 09:01 mtompset Does anyone know what "rc" means in the output of dpkg -l? 08:32 kf hi eythian 08:32 eythian hi kf 08:31 kf good morning #koha 08:10 eythian hallo 08:10 mtompset Greetings, eythian. 07:55 mtompset As far as I can tell, it won't affect my patch. 07:55 dcook Good luck! 07:55 dcook Anyway, I got to jet 07:54 dcook And perhaps more local than the whole instance? 07:54 mtompset Well, I'm going to ignore it.. and just generate a patch up. :) 07:53 dcook In hindsight, it might be more complicated 07:53 dcook Hmm, mine is the same 07:52 mtompset I don't think my master is broken... but the version is 3.7 something vs. 3.8.x's 3.8 something. 07:52 dcook And thanks for the cheers, but I'm defeated for the day. I'll have to try again on Monday ;) 07:51 dcook I would think so yes 07:49 mtompset Hmmm... shouldn't the C4::Breeding in 3.8.x have a LOWER version number than the C4::Breeding in master? 07:41 * mtompset cheers on dcook in his coding quest. 07:36 * dcook takes a look at Letters.pm and Members.pm 07:36 dcook Although there are no warnings...just no content 07:36 dcook Blah...looks like there are other things preventing 8033 from working 07:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8111 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Language chooser display problem in self-checkout 07:05 marcelr bug 8111 07:02 dcook Aha! Applying 8111 first helped resolve the conflict/lack of context 06:52 dcook At least 3.8.0... 06:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8033 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, elliott, Needs Signoff , add print receipt option to Koha self-check 06:52 dcook Hmm, looks like bug 8033 has conflicts with 3.8 anyway... 06:47 dcook Thanks anyways :) 06:47 dcook Hmm, I suppose if this situation arose...I could do a diff and then make my own local follow-up for my git...hmm 06:46 mtompset Sorry, I am not the guru on this. 06:46 dcook In this scenario, they're not using follow-ups, but...maybe people do actually use follow-ups instead? 06:45 dcook If I use git bz to apply a patch...and then that patch is re-submitted...would I have to revert that first patch before trying its replacement? 06:45 dcook Quick question for git bz gurus... 06:42 wahanui mtompset is trying to do a variety of projects in less than three months! 06:42 marcelr and mtompset 06:42 mtompset Greetings, marcelr 06:42 marcelr hi mbalmer 06:41 mbalmer good morning. mtompset, all 06:41 marcelr hi koha 06:40 mtompset greetings, mbalmer 06:40 mtompset bonjour, reiveune 06:40 wahanui hey, reiveune 06:40 reiveune hello 06:32 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 06:32 mtompset Finally! Got my headphone jack tweaked enough to work. 06:26 alex_a bonjour ! 06:03 Oak okay :) 06:03 mtompset Yes, I typed that, because acronyms suck. :) 06:02 mtompset Be back in a bit. 06:02 mtompset (in my timezone) 06:02 mtompset It's 2pm. 06:02 Oak ah 06:02 mtompset Tired. A backup failed last night, and I got it redone before going to bed. 06:02 Oak is not it morning? 06:02 mtompset (need to reboot) 06:01 Oak and how are you today mtompset ? 06:01 mtompset I guess I'll be walkin' da plank. ;) 06:01 Oak :) 06:01 mtompset Okay, I missed it. 06:01 mtompset Ah. 05:59 Oak nah I did the pirate greeting this morning... then electricity went out, and when it came back, my IRC client auto connected... 05:57 mtompset Oak: Last night/This morning... I believe it was bag and mtj doing pirate greetings. You're done with the pirate greetings? :) 05:56 mtompset Greetings, Viktor. 05:55 cait good morning Viktor :) 05:32 drojf good morning #koha 05:28 Oak hello :) 05:22 cait hello 05:20 mtompset Greetings, Oak and cait. 04:44 mtompset Ah yes. template differences. 04:23 * dcook facepalm 04:23 dcook Mmm...forgot about the template differences 04:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8033 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, elliott, Needs Signoff , add print receipt option to Koha self-check 04:22 dcook Well, I am working atm ;). Looking at porting bug 8033 back to 3.2 04:20 mtompset Cool. Don't want to distract you from studying. :) 04:19 dcook Much rather be Kohaing than studying, but c'est la vie 04:18 * dcook is at 1.5 days a week while he finishes off his degree. 04:18 dcook Alas, I don't have much time these days, my good man, or I certainly would 04:17 mtompset give this a whirl: cataloguing, cataloguing search: 9876543210, check the error logs. 04:17 dcook Always a handy thing ;) 04:16 mtompset I can now move forward with getting my patch processed. 04:16 dcook Nice one, mtompset 04:13 mtompset Woo hoo! I found the case that breaks it! 03:59 Oak :) 03:56 dcook Allo Oak :) 03:40 Oak and crickets 03:40 Oak Ahoy me hearties 02:39 * dcook wonders where the best place to put series information would be in the search results 02:38 dcook It appears that series title doesn't appear in the staff client search results, but series volume does...and it appears right after the title and before the author... 02:36 * dcook glares at staff client search result formatting/punctuation 01:54 libsysguy [off] rangi every time I see anything about New Zealand I think about you and catalyst http://www.reddit.com/r/atheism/comments/z09zm/the_new_zealand_government_is_currently_voting_on/ 01:48 libsysguy loui the way I started learning Koha was to think up a spall something I wanted to do and then try and do it 01:43 libsysguy I'm just kidding, use whatever you're comfortable with 01:43 loui ok tnx guys. 01:43 jcamins virtualbox.org 01:43 jcamins You can use VirtualBox to run a virtual machine with Debian. 01:43 libsysguy :p 01:43 libsysguy don't listen to these guys VI and VIM are evil 01:43 jcamins You're going to need to set up a Linux system to do your development on. 01:43 * libsysguy recommends emacs 01:42 jcamins (if you prefer, you can use Emacs, or any other text editor, of course) 01:42 jcamins loui: vim. I don't think IDEs work well with Perl. 01:42 loui Guys any suggestion of Perl IDE for windows? 01:41 jcamins Koha is great. :) 01:40 loui jcamins you are right. I really need to learn Perl. My boss really likes Koha. 01:39 * jcamins thinks this is a signal benefit of Perl over PHP. 01:39 jcamins loui: Koha is written in Perl. 01:39 loui anyone for perl vs php?;) 01:36 libsysguy it was…enlightening 01:36 libsysguy but I used to work at a library (academic) 01:36 libsysguy i recently moved here 01:35 loui libsysguy you are lucky. 01:35 libsysguy jcamins don't encourage loui to make fun of me :p 01:35 loui And these 2 books was never used. heh 01:35 jcamins loui: libsysguy lives in a city with at least a half dozen libraries. 01:35 libsysguy but not crusty 01:35 libsysguy well perl is old anyway 01:34 loui I am working in a library with 35 thousand collections with only 2 perl old books.:( 01:34 libsysguy agreed 01:33 rangi publishes are dicks and i dont want to encourage them :) 01:33 rangi and donate to the other 01:33 libsysguy if only these places could be not so exclusive 01:33 rangi i get it from there 01:33 rangi http://www.onyxneon.com/books/modern_perl/ 01:32 jcamins That'd be crazy. 01:32 jcamins Naw. 01:32 rangi http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromatic_(programmer) 01:32 jcamins Or even associated with every school. 01:32 libsysguy so I think I am out of options 01:32 jcamins Maybe there could be one in every community. 01:32 libsysguy I couldn't get a library card 01:32 rangi anything by chromatic is good 01:32 libsysguy yeah idk where that would be 01:32 jcamins If only there were a place from which you could borrow books for free. 01:32 rangi it is 01:31 libsysguy it better be good :p 01:31 libsysguy ok rangi I bought that book 01:30 libsysguy personal favorite 01:30 jcamins A favorite. :) 01:30 jcamins lol 01:30 rangi http://xkcd.com/208/ 01:30 loui Ok its time to understand God. lol 01:30 jcamins Koha isn't an acronym, so the only letter you need to capitalize is the 'K.' 01:30 jcamins At least the trickster gods. 01:29 loui Never used perl before. I just got interested when I tested KOHA.:D 01:29 libsysguy :p 01:29 libsysguy to know perl is to know the language of the programming gods 01:29 libsysguy mmhmm 01:28 rangi yes 01:28 loui So I need to study perl to be able to modify Koha codes?:( 01:28 jcamins Oh, Modern Perl isn't an OReilly book. 01:28 libsysguy I really enjoyed it 01:28 libsysguy hey I read that head first java book when I was in highschool 01:27 jcamins [off] http://www.safaribooksonline.com/ <-- don't they offer every format ever? 01:27 libsysguy ? 01:27 libsysguy http://www.amazon.com/Modern-Perl-ebook/dp/B0057Z3QB8/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1346289821&sr=8-2&keywords=modern+perl 01:27 jcamins libsysguy: O'Reilly? 01:27 libsysguy but its $5 on the kindle 01:26 libsysguy dang it play store doesn't have it 01:25 wahanui rumour has it modern perl is a good one too 01:25 rangi modern perl 01:25 libsysguy so I bought Perl Best Practices last week and have rather enjoyed reading it. Does anybody have other reading suggestions? I'm about to start working on a testing suite *hint* *hint* 01:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8621 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Stable , Template for sending out carts not formatting correctly 01:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8663 normal, P3, ---, pelletiermaxime, Pushed to Stable , Circulation rules hard due date calendar wrong format 01:23 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 8621: Alternative template for cart email 01:23 jenkins_koha * maxime.pelletier: Bug 8663 Fix the use of hardcoded date format for the calendar widget of hard due date 01:23 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #148: SUCCESS in 1 hr 1 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/148/ 01:22 * dcook twitches 01:20 libsysguy :p 01:20 libsysguy sometimes I get a little nostalgic about the good ol' days of IE6 01:19 rangi not anymore anyway 01:18 rangi but really for koha, we dont need to 01:18 rangi sometimes you have to .. depending if you have to support horrible old browsers 01:18 libsysguy classy 01:18 libsysguy indeed 01:18 jcamins Good content on that website. 01:18 jcamins lol 01:17 libsysguy sometimes I cheat and use them for forms :-/ 01:17 rangi use tables for things that should be tabular, the end 01:17 rangi *nod* 01:16 libsysguy http://shouldiusetablesforlayout.com/ 01:16 jcamins That's why I wanted to sign off on the change from <table> to <div> for results. 01:16 libsysguy also the refine your search options are nicely spaced and laid out 01:16 rangi *nod* 01:16 libsysguy it makes it feel more stream lined 01:16 rangi yeah they look nice on the left 01:15 libsysguy i like the cover images moved over 01:15 loui yeah wow.. nice opac. 01:15 mtj i like the red person, with a head made of books 01:14 dcook Wow, that is a beauty 01:14 mtj loui, and now you know where the logs are :) 01:14 loui Thank you mtj. 01:14 loui Sorry wasn't paying attention to previous messages. 01:13 mtj http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/2012-08-30#i_1062517 01:12 jcamins loui: it was just posted a half hour ago by rangi. 01:12 loui mtj kindly post his OPAC url here. tnx 01:11 mtj wow, rennes is the best koha opac i've ever seen 00:58 rangi :) 00:56 dcook That's good to hear. I downloaded about 1200 emails, but it was a reasonable amount of work left in the end. Yay for filters. 00:54 rangi not too bad, busy, but can't complain 00:53 dcook How've the past few weeks gone? 00:53 dcook Hey rangi. Vancouver is certainly growing on me again 00:52 dcook Thanks, jcamins :) 00:52 jcamins Welcome back to this side of the Pacific/Atlantic. 00:52 rangi hows canada? 00:52 rangi heya dcook 00:52 dcook Morning #koha! 00:46 jcamins Nice! 00:45 rangi they really did a lovely job on the css there 00:42 rangi purty! 00:42 rangi http://catalogue.bu.univ-rennes2.fr/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=fish&searchOn=OPAC 00:40 rangi if its not free software, you are still not in control 00:40 rangi apis too 00:40 rangi it's also a case why open api's aren't enough 00:39 mtj aah , i thought you meant twitter build their platform, on another proprietary platform 00:39 rangi http://www.nbcnews.com/technology/technolog/whys-everybody-so-angry-about-twitter-should-you-care-965306 00:39 rangi twitter 00:39 mtj what was the platform? 00:38 rangi they are a great case in point why building a business model on someone elses proprietary platform is a dumb move 00:38 rangi probably twitter screwing with their api again 00:37 mtj meh, im gonna give that birdy a rest ... 00:37 rangi 49! 00:31 rangi hmm nope still reporting old already reported stuff 00:31 jcamins mtj: not quite working there. 00:31 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @ByWaterSolution: "Setting Default Values for Item Records in Koha 3.8 http://t.co/QE4lSBr6 #kohails" 00:31 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @kohails: "#kohails Setting Default Values for Item Records in Koha 3.8 http://t.co/PyNPcNrf" 00:31 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @kohails: "#kohails Koha Newsletter: Volume 3, Issue 8: August 2012 http://t.co/lK2IEZ0c" 00:31 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @bibliogum: "@jsicot mais ce n'est que du koha pas la peine d'en faire tout un plâtra #blobsigb #nouveaucatalogue #kohails #mauvaisefoi" 00:31 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @kohails: "#kohails Koha Newsletter: Volume 3, Issue 8: August 2012 http://t.co/ypampVuI" 00:21 jenkins_koha Starting build #148 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 00:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8596 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Reports interface date picker doesn't force ISO formatted dates 00:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8626 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Stable , Encoding problem with = in cart emails 00:21 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 8596 - Reports interface date picker doesn't force ISO formatted dates 00:21 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 8626: Fix encoding in cart emails for use of quoted-printable 00:21 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #147: SUCCESS in 1 hr 3 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/147/ 00:19 rangi *nod* 00:19 jcamins I don't want to do anything too big with this because the feature currently works with UNIMARC, and the larger the change, the more likely it is to break that. 00:16 rangi as a compromise 00:15 jcamins *? 00:13 rangi that works 00:13 jcamins Okay, what about this compromise for 8523: start out with replicating the existing functionality for non-UNIMARC, with a follow-up patch adding a cron job to generate bidirectional links from unidirectional data. 00:10 Judit i am 00:09 * jcamins thinks everyone should be that excited about their time of day. 00:09 Judit :D 00:09 jcamins EVENING! :D 00:07 Judit sorry 00:07 Judit MORNING 00:06 rangi mtj++ #writing tests