Time Nick Message
00:01 rangi hmm this changes the behaviour quite a lot
00:01 rangi http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=82312383117ec5df678262391ba7a17e94b75336;hp=29891f38f90b14d50da741715fe3e9c31ce0d170
00:02 JoeLib001 Do I want libmoosex-types-perl or libmoosex-types-perl-perl?
00:03 JoeLib001 I would guess the first one?
00:03 rangi ahhh, those are optional to
00:03 rangi o
00:03 rangi id leave them
00:03 JoeLib001 Ok.
00:03 JoeLib001 libtime-progresss-perl
00:03 JoeLib001 libtest-mockmodule-perl
00:03 JoeLib001 libstring-rewriteprefix-perl
00:03 JoeLib001 Any of those optional?
00:03 rangi yep you want all of those
00:06 JoeLib001 I'm not finding a package for Data::Paginator or Data::Pagination
00:07 JoeLib001 Do I need to pull those using cpan?
00:07 rangi shouldnt
00:07 rangi libdata-paginator-perl
00:08 rangi but again you dont need them
00:08 JoeLib001 Ah, awesome. :-)
00:08 JoeLib001 'cause they aren't in my list. hehe.
00:08 rangi they are to dowith the SolR stuff
00:11 JoeLib001 Ok, I got all the dependencies in that were important. I'm still getting this error though: Template process failed: file error - /home/joe/kohaclone/koha-tmpl/prog/en/modules/installer/auth.tt: not found at /home/joe/kohaclone/C4/Templates.pm line 127.
00:12 JoeLib001 Oh.
00:12 JoeLib001 Hmm... not found. :-)
00:12 JoeLib001 Sounds like some more configuration fun.
00:12 JoeLib001 <includes>/home/joe/kohaclone/koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/includes/</includes>
00:14 JoeLib001 <intrahtdocs>/home/joe/kohaclone/koha-tmpl</intrahtdocs>
00:19 JoeLib001 Woot! :-) It's up. :-)
00:20 rangi yay
00:20 rangi and now im going to lunch :)
00:22 JoeLib001 Yay! :-)
00:22 JoeLib001 The patch worked.
00:22 JoeLib001 How do I say it worked?
00:29 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #117: SUCCESS in 1 hr 5 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/117/
00:29 jenkins_koha jcamins: Bug 8204 follow-up: quiet warn
00:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8204 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Stable , Authority viewer in OPAC ugly, unfriendly, and mostly useless
00:29 jenkins_koha Starting build #118 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
01:31 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #118: SUCCESS in 1 hr 2 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/118/
01:31 jenkins_koha * fridolyn.somers: Bug 8503: Software error in edit items with EasyAnalyticalRecords
01:31 jenkins_koha * veron: Bug 8518 - Self checkout does not display debt amount if syspref AllowFineOverride is set to allow
01:31 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8503 major, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , Software error n edit items with EasyAnalyticalRecords
01:31 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8518 minor, P5 - low, ---, veron, Pushed to Stable , Self checkout does not display debt amount if syspref AllowFineOverride is set to allow
02:09 druthb o/
02:09 rangi hi druthb
02:10 druthb hiya, rangi
02:32 Judit hi
02:32 wahanui privet, Judit
02:51 rangi Judit: https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/s720x720/547876_10151042138853763_798192009_n.jpg
02:52 rangi have you been watching any of the olymics?
03:15 Judit rangi, no not really
03:16 rangi not so good in our timezones
03:16 Judit i ended up with no internet connection, and no tv
03:16 Judit i guess
03:16 rangi eek, that wouldnt help
03:16 Judit and i would be interested in the hungarian teams
03:16 Judit no coverage at all
03:17 rangi true
03:17 Judit and just all tohetger
03:17 Judit i dont like that tv stations decide on what i want to see
03:19 Judit http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/gaming-the-games-how-net-tools-dodge-network-tv-coverage-20120802-23gw8.html
03:19 rangi :)
03:21 Judit1 i am looking forward the future- in tv/broadcast industry too
04:09 cait morning #koha
04:50 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @ranginui: "one student working on fixing a layout bug on the staff page, another unit testing, just another thursday afternoon #kohails fixing session"
04:50 cait :)
04:50 cait yay! :)
04:52 rangi jorgia is fixing the purchasing suggestions layout thing on the staff homepage
05:02 dcook Allo #koha
05:06 cait jorgia++ :)
05:06 cait hi dcook :)
05:07 dcook hey cait :)
05:07 dcook Having a good morning?
05:09 cait hm yes
05:09 cait mostly :)
05:11 dcook Glad to hear it :)
05:11 cait how is your... evening?
05:13 dcook Mid-afternoon ;)
05:14 dcook Busy, really busy
05:14 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @ranginui: "bart just increased statement coverage for C4::Matcher from 6% to 14% and subroutine coverage from 23% to 44% #kohails"
05:15 dcook At the moment, I'm trying to figure out the purpose of the "man" directory in Koha
05:16 rangi its created by make
05:16 rangi its where the man pages live
05:17 dcook I figured it must be a by-product of the install, but wasn't sure if it was still used in some way
05:17 rangi nope
05:17 dcook Are those command line accessible onnly?
05:17 rangi http://perldoc.koha-community.org/ <-- all there
05:18 dcook Hmmm
05:19 rangi its programmer docs
05:19 rangi not end user docs
05:19 rangi except for the scripts in the packages like koha-create
05:21 dcook Interesting. What type of things are in there?
05:21 rangi in where the packages?
05:22 rangi or in the perldoc?
05:22 rangi http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Commands_provided_by_the_Debian_packages <-- packages
05:22 dcook I remember seeing koha-create was a command that came with packages
05:23 dcook I'm just curious as to how to use these man pages
05:24 * dcook isn't quite sure of the purpose of perldoc either :p
05:24 cait perldoc is for developers, I use it for finding which function to use and which arguments it takes and so on - easier to browse than the source code
05:26 dcook I follow you now, cait. It seems that I was looking at a few less than useful pages, but I see what you mean
05:26 rangi its created (like the man pages are) from the POD in the perl files
05:26 rangi which is why you should always write POD
05:28 dcook I believe that I'm starting to catch on...haha
05:29 cait document! :)
05:29 dcook Always a good thing :D
05:29 dcook So you can only use POD in .pm files, yes?
05:29 dcook I think that's the only place I've seen it
05:29 rangi nope .pl too
05:30 rangi check out
05:30 rangi misc/links_bibs_to_authorities.pl
05:31 rangi http://perldoc.koha-community.org/misc/link_bibs_to_authorities.html et voila
05:31 cait jcamins :)
05:31 rangi http://perldoc.koha-community.org/opac/opac-MARCdetail.html
05:31 rangi etc
05:32 dcook Very cool!
05:32 dcook I've been pondering a bit lately about how to document well in Perl
05:33 dcook So the man pages show the same thing that I'm looking at on perldoc?
05:33 dcook Do I access them through the perldoc command at the command line?
05:34 dcook Nvm
05:34 dcook Answered my own question :p
05:35 dcook Merci, beaucoup rangi and cait :)
05:35 dcook Ack..
05:35 dcook Merci beaucoup*
05:35 dcook I don't know where all these comma splices are coming from...
05:36 cait you can just say Danke ;)
05:36 dcook Danke, cait ;)
05:36 dcook Bitte means thank you and you're welcome, yes?
05:36 cait for once german is shorter and easier to type... doesn't happen all that often
05:36 cait dcook: yep :)
05:36 cait hm no
05:36 cait please and you are welcome
05:37 dcook Right
05:37 dcook Sorry, that's what I meant
05:37 cait yep, read what you meant :)
05:37 dcook But yes...I've heard that the german for "pen" is quite the mouthful
05:37 cait heh
05:37 cait füllfederhalter?
05:38 cait ah kugelschreiber says my dictionary... always confusing those
05:39 francharb hello
05:39 dcook Fair enough
05:39 dcook hi francharb :)
05:39 dcook I met some guys from Bavaria when I was in Prague and they said that even they didn't understand German grammar :p
05:39 francharb 0/ dcook
05:42 cait dcook: makes sense to me
05:42 cait dcook: I started to understand it when I learned russian - but I still couldn't explain to someone else really
05:42 dcook Mmm, that's how I feel about English
05:42 dcook I can explain French grammar, but my explanations of English are based on what I learned from that
05:44 cait I want to take an english test in autumn.. guess that will force me to repeat some of the english grammar we learned at school
05:46 dcook What's the test for?
05:46 dcook ^dangling preposition = bad :P
05:46 cait hm?
05:46 cait well. in this case it would enable me to study abroad.
05:46 cait where people speak english.
05:47 cait but there are no plans for that :)
05:48 dcook Sounds like a good test. I wish you luck :)
05:48 mtj dcook: if you look at CPAN, most of the info you read is straight from the perldoc
05:48 mtj like this... -> http://search.cpan.org/dist/MARC-Record/lib/MARC/Record.pm
05:49 mtj all that pretty info , is generated from this file here... -> http://cpansearch.perl.org/src/GMCHARLT/MARC-Record-2.0.3/lib/MARC/Record.pm
05:49 dcook O_o myj
05:49 dcook mtj*
05:50 mtj so, perldoc syntax is kinda like a 'wiki' markup language...
05:50 dcook Mmm, you're right. It does look like a wiki markup
05:53 mtj yep, cpan and perldoc.kc.org are doing the same formatting trick (cpan is perhaps a little prettier, tho..)
05:54 mtj but its the same idea - pull the perldoc markup from a perl file, and display it
05:55 dcook Yep. It's a handy thing to know :)
05:55 * dcook stores it in the ol' memory bank
05:57 francharb guys, ladies, do you have an xml editor to recommend me (that works with ubuntu)?
05:58 francharb right now, I'm working with XML Copy Editor
05:58 francharb and it's a little bit buggy
05:59 francharb yesterday, at the end of the day, the writting cursor was two letters ahead of where it should be... was kind of hard to edit anything!
06:00 francharb and... well this morning, it's still the same...
06:00 francharb weird
06:01 francharb if anyone use any good tool, let me know! ;)
06:01 dcook Sorry, francharb. I got nothing :/
06:02 francharb ok
06:02 francharb thanks anyway :)
06:03 francharb I will try somthing else randomly on synaptic then...
06:03 francharb ;)
06:03 cait sorry francharb - I don't have any recommendation
06:04 cait I like geany for an editor, but it's not specifically for xml
06:04 francharb cait, ok, I will check this out!
06:04 francharb thanks
06:05 cait not sure this was helpful :) but hoping you find something oyu like
06:05 francharb I'm working on a xslt stylesheet, so I'm testing editors at the same time
06:06 francharb :)
06:07 francharb cait, geany looks cool! I'm going to test it right now!
06:07 francharb :)
06:08 cait :)
06:08 cait i use notepad++ on windows and geany/padre (still testing too...) on linux
06:10 francharb thanks for the advice!
06:11 cait you are welcome :)
06:17 * magnuse waves
06:20 rangi Hi magnuse
06:25 cait ugh
06:29 mveron Good daytime #koha
06:29 rangi Hi mveron
06:29 cait hi mveron :)
06:29 cait got my mail?
06:29 mveron Hi cait and rangi
06:30 dcook Hey mveron
06:30 mveron rangi: Yesterday I found out the origin of your nickname :-)
06:30 mveron and hi dcook
06:30 rangi Hmm?
06:30 mveron http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rangi_und_Papa
06:31 rangi Ah yep it's my middle name
06:31 papa I refuse to be a mother
06:32 rangi Hehe
06:32 mveron I found out because I do the web site for an artist located in New Zealand, and one of his paintings was relatedt to that myth
06:33 rangi Ah yep small world
06:33 mveron Indeed...
06:34 rangi Ok my bus stop back later
06:54 dcook mveron++
06:54 dcook For good detective work...
06:54 dcook I've been wondering about this for ages ;)
06:57 mveron dcook: :-)
07:09 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @taratj: "#thatsMYboy! @ranginui: bart just increased statement coverage for C4::Matcher from 6% to 14% & subroutine coverage from 23% to 44% #kohails"
07:16 paul_p good morning #koha
07:16 kf good morning paul_p
07:16 kf almost vacation time for you :)
07:17 magnuse bomjour paul_p
07:17 magnuse oops, bonjour...
07:18 kf god morgen (?) magnuse
07:18 kf hm that looks wrong :)
07:18 magnuse nope, 100% correct!
07:18 mveron good morning paul_pand and magnuse :-)
07:18 magnuse hiya mveron
07:18 kf see, that's whathappens when you are away that long - my norwegian gets all rusty
07:18 kf hi mveron :)
07:18 magnuse kf: sorry about that ;-)
07:18 mveron ...and hi kf :-)
07:18 magnuse @wunder boo
07:18 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 12.0°C (8:50 AM CEST on August 02, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady).
07:19 mveron @wunder basel
07:19 huginn mveron: The current temperature in Basel, Switzerland is 21.0°C (9:00 AM CEST on August 02, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
07:19 magnuse it's official - we had a lousy summer
07:19 kf @wunder Konstanz
07:19 huginn kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 22.0°C (9:00 AM CEST on August 02, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.96 in 1015 hPa (Rising).
07:19 mveron Summer?
07:19 wahanui hmmm... Summer is here now
07:19 kf quite rainy here too, but it gets better
07:19 magnuse two days in july with a temp over 20C...
07:19 kf ouch :(
07:22 magnuse it's a good thing we have something to distract us... :-)
07:23 kf something named leonard? :)
07:23 magnuse yup :-)
07:24 kf :)
07:27 paul_p @wunder Marseille, france
07:27 huginn paul_p: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 24.0°C (9:00 AM CEST on August 02, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady).
07:27 dcook @wunder sydney, australia
07:27 huginn dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 14.0°C (5:00 PM EST on August 02, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
07:28 paul_p magnuse = what are the news of the baby ? (and mother)
07:31 magnuse paul_p: all well - just had a routine 2-month checkup yesterday with a doc and a midwife, and they could find nothing wrong
07:31 magnuse gaining weight and length steadily too :-)
07:32 paul_p magnuse if your wife is kinda like you in size, i'm sure he's gaining weight & length steadily :D
07:33 magnuse paul_p: she is 188cm so yeah, we expect he'll grow a bit :-)
07:35 paul_p magnuse 188cm ! wow! almost like you ! (when I was young, my mother used to say for kidding = "boy, you're like weed, you grow without needing care")
07:35 magnuse hehe
07:36 kf hehe
07:56 mveron kf: If I see mistakes in the German translation, I can fix them directly in Pootle, right?
07:58 kf mveron: yes :)
07:59 kf be careful with the versions - always fix in the newest too - so it does not come back with the next update
07:59 kf i think that's the problem gaetan ran into
08:00 mveron i.e. http://translate.koha-community.org/de/38/de-DE-i-staff-t-prog-v-3006000.po/translate/
08:01 kf yes?
08:01 mveron I fix it there..
08:01 kf ah right
08:01 kf yep, in the newest project
08:01 kf and if you need corrections in 3.6.x there too
08:02 mveron I have no 3.6 installed, so i can not double check
08:02 kf ah
08:02 kf no problem then :)
08:03 mveron ...but I will do the fixes for de-CH as well ;-)
08:03 kf sorry - will try to look into it today
08:04 mveron :-)
08:16 dcook 'night everyone. Have a good day of Kohaing!\
08:49 * paul_p head to bugzilla and will try to QA & push for the rest of the day...
09:34 mveron kf: Found one translation issue not related to pootle: Bug 8556
09:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8556 minor, P5 - low, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , "Mark seen and continue" not translatable in inventory.tt
11:31 magnuse jcamins: will Bug 8538 be covered by some of your work/plans?
11:31 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8538 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , true browse for authorities
11:31 magnuse ...and g'day!
11:31 jcamins magnuse: not yet.
11:31 paul_p very quiet mailbox those weeks (outsite from bugzilla mails ;-) )
11:32 magnuse ah, ok, just thought maybe there was some overlap
11:32 oleonard Hi #koha
11:32 paul_p 'morning oleonard
11:33 jcamins magnuse: nah, that would cost as much as all my other authority-related development put together.
11:35 magnuse ouch!
11:37 jcamins Not that it wouldn't be cool, but no one would actually use it.
11:38 magnuse hehe, there is that too...
11:39 kf jcamins: do you have a minute?
11:39 kf I have some authority linking questions
11:41 jcamins Sure.
12:28 oleonard Bug 8553 sounds like a support request. Close it and direct them to the mailing list, or leave it?
12:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8553 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , encountered a problem in searching through Barcode
12:28 jcamins I prefer A.
12:29 oleonard Given Bug 8554, it sounds like the user is mucking around with mappings and frameworks
12:30 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8554 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , marck bibliographic framework test
12:30 khall bug 6151 followup needs signoff. It's an easy one.
12:30 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6151 major, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , IndependantBranches and HomeOrHoldingBranchReturn can prevent items from being checked in
12:51 * oleonard doesn't understand some libraries' policy of assessing a fine when making something long overdue
12:51 oleonard It's still on their record... why apply a replacement charge?
12:52 * oleonard is reading nengard's bug report
12:53 nengard the lost item one?
12:53 oleonard Yes
12:54 nengard does anyone know (on another note) when we set circ and fine rules is the branch we select from the pull down the it's branch or the patron's branch?
12:55 jcamins It should be the item's branch, because that's what HomeOrHolding is for.
13:34 jcamins paul_p: there's a patch for the HASH() display.
13:34 jcamins Bug 5520.
13:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5520 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, pianohacker, RESOLVED FIXED, No .packages file for Ubuntu Maverick
13:34 jcamins No.
13:34 jcamins Bug 8520.
13:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8520 major, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Passed QA , Authorities display incorrectly in staff results
13:41 talljoy jcamins: you said yesterday thatj "as of 3.8, BiblioAddsAuthorities is essentially a no-op." But I see that sys pref is tied to the AutoCreateAuthorities syspref. Are both of those sys prefs 'no-op'?
13:42 jcamins talljoy: autocreateauthorities does things. biblioaddsauthorities merely changes the javascript.
13:42 paul_p jcamins thx, it' s pushed !
13:42 jcamins paul_p: excellent! That fixed your problem, right?
13:42 talljoy well autocreatesuthorities says "BiblioAddsAuthorities must be set to "allow" for this to have any effect"
13:43 talljoy and setting it to allow breaks things
13:43 paul_p jcamins right
13:43 jcamins talljoy: yes, because without BiblioAddsAuthorities you can't actually enter in headings.
13:43 talljoy so if biblioaddsauthorites is set to don't allow then authorities cannot be autogenerated?
13:44 jcamins Authorities cannot be entered or autogenerated.
13:44 talljoy that's a bigger problem than i thought.
13:44 talljoy if you are importing records through z3950
13:44 jcamins Yeah, this is why BiblioAddsAuthorities was a profoundly bad idea.
13:44 * paul_p is back to QAing bug 4198 !
13:44 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4198 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Signed Off , deleting an authority refreshes the page
13:45 * jcamins wanders off.
13:45 paul_p ... and it work nicely ;-)
13:51 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_6720' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=98a207ef955effae8d6b26a1c74bddd9a3c9a801> / Bug 6720 follow-up: fix error when auth has been deleted <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=983012d5b8d32abebf862f348b0de13aa3e549f3> / Bug 8520: fix authority display in staff client <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=c
13:53 jenkins_koha Starting build #797 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 28 days ago)
13:53 tcohen hi #koha
13:57 * magnuse waves to eythian, wherever he happens to be today :-)
14:00 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @nengard: "a quote from en email I got today: "I really think Koha is a winner. It’s intuitive, and the help/doc/tutorials are excellent." #kohails :)"
14:03 oleonard Yay us!
14:03 eythian magnuse: hiya. Not sure where I am right now, on a train heading back to Marseille in general though.
14:03 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @nengard: "a quote from en email I got today: "I really think Koha is a winner. It’s intuitive, and the help/doc/tutorials are excellent." #kohails :)"
14:03 nengard :)
14:04 nengard is the second one cause I was RT'd?
14:05 oleonard I only see it once in #kohails search results
14:08 * oleonard discovers he somehow unfollowed rangi on Twitter.. how did that happen?
14:08 eythian ah, I'm in Lyon. Good to know.
14:08 magnuse eythian: as long as you are headed in the right direction... :-)
14:12 oleonard eythian: Wave to francharb_afk as you go by
14:12 eythian If not, I think I'd be well into Germany by now :)
14:12 eythian heh
14:12 * francharb_afk wave to eythian
14:12 francharb_afk ;)
14:13 eythian francharb_afk: sitting in Lyon Part-Duex right now
14:13 eythian (it must be a sequel station or something)
14:13 francharb_afk eythian, how long do you stay in lyon?
14:13 eythian francharb_afk: about 5-10 minutes, when the train starts moving again.
14:13 oleonard Lyon Part-Deux: Lyonier
14:14 eythian heh
14:14 francharb to short to be your guide here
14:14 francharb ;)
14:14 eythian afraid so :)
14:14 magnuse bad planning ;-)
14:15 francharb next time
14:15 wahanui well, next time is in 87 years or something... ;-)
14:15 francharb really?
14:15 wahanui Of course!
14:15 francharb ;)
14:15 francharb hehe
14:16 oleonard I hope you can wait francharb
14:18 francharb I will be 119 years old. I'm afraid my family lifetime is shorter but I can try
14:18 francharb ;)
14:18 francharb "I'm afraid my family lifetime is shorter but I can try" broken english of the day
14:19 francharb \0/
14:19 francharb :)
14:19 francharb I go back to my xslt
14:19 francharb ;)
14:20 oleonard Your broken English > my broken French = you win ;)
14:21 francharb thank you
14:21 francharb :)
14:21 * cait waves
14:21 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8463 - Koha/SearchEngine/Solr/Search.pm fails perlcritic test <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9226ae46419a5c54447c7d6e27b6163d2c6fd95a> / Bug 4198 - Followup - PerlTidy authorities-home.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=90db8c0e22d5ce9a9203b54d24aa51f99425a78c> / Bug 4198 - deleting an authority refreshes the page <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p
14:21 * francharb waves back to cait
14:21 francharb ;)
14:21 cait :)
14:28 eythian It seems someone has added something that means if you have both google and amazon covers turned on, smart things happen (i.e. one of them gets hidden.)
14:28 eythian However, in IE this causes a flash of doubled covers to show which vanishes after a moment.
14:29 eythian (If it's any consolation, every time an IE issue comes up, I am telling them that IE is the source of the issue and we're working around it for them :)
14:30 cait heh
14:30 cait good strategy
14:30 cait I think the answer may be to turn off one?
14:31 eythian cait: yeah, I said that
14:31 eythian though there is a better idea
14:31 cait never use ie?
14:31 eythian load everything hidden, and unhide the things we want to show.
14:31 eythian that's an even better idea.
14:31 eythian And I'm doing it ;)
14:31 oleonard [off] How my library home page would look if I put everything on it that I was asked to: http://codinghorror.typepad.com/.a/6a0120a85dcdae970b0120a86d6311970b-pi
14:32 * cait nods
14:32 cait I only go into ie when I have to test something.... and I don't like doin git
14:32 oleonard eythian: Can you confirm that someone has done something to hide redundant covers?
14:33 * oleonard had not heard of anything like that
14:33 cait jcamins_away: ping?
14:34 wizzyrea HAHAHAHAHAHA
14:34 wizzyrea oleonard
14:34 wahanui oleonard is still here, if you just wish hard enough. or Koha's master UI designer
14:34 wizzyrea you just cracked me up
14:34 wizzyrea [off] or like this: http://www.beckbookmanlibrary.org/
14:37 tcohen oleonard, do we have jqplot in koha?
14:37 oleonard No
14:37 tcohen when moving to 3.8 our users lost some nice reports with graphics I made for them
14:37 tcohen daily circulation reports
14:38 tcohen i'll have to implement them again
14:38 tcohen do u think jqplot is a goog squery library for that? would u recomend another one?
14:38 cait tcohen: there is a nice new feature for reports
14:38 tcohen which feature?
14:38 cait a web service that gives you json and caches it - I think you could use that as base for your reports maybe?
14:39 wizzyrea ^^
14:39 cait from sql reports
14:39 tcohen oh
14:39 cait it's very cool
14:39 * cait intends to play lots with that as soon as we got 3.8 :)
14:39 cait hm get
14:39 oleonard tcohen: I don't have experience with any js charting library
14:40 tcohen do u think including that in the koha interface could be handy for anyone?
14:40 oleonard tcohen: Could it be integrated with custom reports? That would be really cool.
14:42 tcohen ok
14:42 tcohen cait: where do I search for that webservices?
14:43 cait hm I think look for webservice in bugzilla maybe
14:43 cait I have a very slw internet connection here - it's a bit painful to look things up
14:44 tcohen bug 8256
14:44 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8256 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Reports webservice should allow selection by name
14:47 wizzyrea no, but that is the feature
14:47 wizzyrea that's an enhancement for the feature
14:47 wizzyrea what do you want to know about it?
14:47 wizzyrea actually, brb - don't go away :)
14:50 wizzyrea ok back
14:55 cait wb eythian - train?
14:56 cait tcohen: I think the bug has some examples - baically you create an sql report, you can specify how long it should be cached and if you want it publicly accessible or not
14:56 cait and then you only have to construct your URL as in the examples
14:56 tcohen right
14:56 tcohen will try and come back later!
14:56 tcohen thanks!
14:56 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #797: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 3 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/797/
14:56 jenkins_koha * dcook: Bug 7839 [ENH] : Add tab in patron record to show patron's routing lists
14:56 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 7839 follow-up fixing HTML4 coding guideline error
14:56 jenkins_koha * meenakshi.r: Bug 6655 - Sorting order of serial issues in OPAC
14:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7839 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Master , Enhancement: Show routing lists attached to patron in Patron record
14:56 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: Bug 8432: Change serials results display
14:56 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 8432 follow-up, fixing error in T::T variable scope
14:56 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 8427 - Patron search results not consistent
14:56 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: Bug 7470: Followup Move Babeltheque css into a specific file
14:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6655 trivial, P5 - low, ---, meenakshi.r, Pushed to Master , Sorting order of serial issues in OPAC
14:56 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 7470 follow-up: adding comments to avoid removal of this file
14:56 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: Bug 7470: Followup: Changes mailto links
14:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8432 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , Improvement of serials search results list
14:57 jenkins_koha * elliott: Added a URI filter to encode a cardnumber for borrowers as to not break patronimage.pl
14:57 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 8520: fix authority display in staff client
14:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8427 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Patron search results not consistent
14:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7470 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Babeltheque improvement and social networks links (like, +1,...)
14:57 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 6720 follow-up: fix error when auth has been deleted
14:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8520 critical, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Authorities display incorrectly in staff results
14:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6720 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Saved authorities always show as 'Default'
14:57 jenkins_koha Starting build #798 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 28 days ago)
15:04 eythian yes
15:04 eythian oleonard: in case I lost signal too early before:
15:04 eythian oleonard: I haven't checked the code, but it seems to be the case.
15:04 eythian my dev system has the two turned on in 3.8.3 and I'm not getting double ups
15:04 oleonard eythian: I had two services turned on the other day and got double-ups. If someone changed something then it doesn't work for all of them
15:21 libsysguy oleonard are we using jquery ui dialog anywhere?
15:21 oleonard Not yet
15:21 libsysguy I'd like to use it, do you see any issues with that?
15:22 oleonard No. I planned Bug 8290 but ran into obstacles.
15:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8290 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Replace Greybox library with jQueryUI Dialog
15:22 oleonard ...but those obstacles were with Greybox features, not jqueryUI itself
15:22 libsysguy ahh ok, if I add it will it cause difficulties for you later
15:23 libsysguy as far as rebasing etc?
15:23 oleonard No it won't
15:23 libsysguy ok cool
15:23 cait @later tell eythian running into the javascript problem in firefox now...
15:23 huginn cait: The operation succeeded.
15:23 oleonard But...
15:23 libsysguy nowI just have to figure out how to add it :p
15:23 oleonard libsysguy: Take note...
15:23 * libsysguy is listening
15:24 * cait listens too :)
15:24 oleonard libsysguy: When I add a new jQueryUI dependency I use the "build custom download" tool on jQueryUI.com
15:24 cait (take note sounds so important :) )
15:24 oleonard I haven't done good documentation on this process and I need to
15:24 oleonard when you add the updated jqueryUI library file it should contain the existing dependencies plus only the one you're adding
15:25 oleonard So core+widget+mouse+position+autocomplete+tabs+datepicker + dialog
15:25 libsysguy can I not just add the dialog js file to the existing deps?
15:25 cait @later tell eythian ... just ignore me... I turned javascript off to test something *sigh*
15:25 huginn cait: The operation succeeded.
15:25 oleonard libsysguy: They're all bundled into one file
15:26 libsysguy oh…I thought you could pick and choose
15:26 libsysguy http://jqueryui.com/download
15:26 cait oleonard: is that to make them smaller?
15:26 libsysguy oh i see, if you pick one you have to pick several
15:27 libsysguy oleonard, do I just choose no theme?
15:27 oleonard Putting them all in one file reduces the number of http requests necessary
15:27 oleonard libsysguy: I've been using "smoothness" but I think it all gets overridden anyway
15:27 libsysguy i gotcha
15:27 libsysguy i just don't want to hose the theming :p
15:27 * oleonard should work on documentation today to get all this out in the open
15:28 cait oleonard: did you see? it looks like the menu will be in the next release of jquery ui
15:28 * nengard didn't read the backlog ? but documentation writing is always welcome :) hehe
15:28 cait oleonard: but I couldn't figure out when that will happen :(
15:28 oleonard nengard: More like coding guidelines
15:28 nengard meh
15:28 oleonard cait: That's the problem
15:28 nengard still good just not what i want :) hehe
15:29 oleonard libsysguy: I'd be happy to help with theming
15:29 cait oleonard: thought so :( but at least from the wiki it looks like menu is pretty much done
15:29 libsysguy id like to investigate bootstrap
15:29 cait libsysguy: you should talk with mtj
15:29 libsysguy but there are a lot of things id like to investigate given the time
15:30 * libsysguy has cait ;)
15:30 cait libsysguy: he was working on that recently for the opac :)
15:30 cait ah ok :)
15:30 cait so ignore me
15:30 cait :P
15:30 libsysguy mtj saw that I was looking into theming and said hey wait :p
15:31 rambutan [off]I'm jockeying to get the Koha logo on our new bookmobile (still down the road a few months). Should I have concerns about trademark/copyright?
15:31 cait did he show you his prototype?
15:31 oleonard Better to tell libsysguy something he already knows than for him to find out he's spent hours developing the seventh or eighth implementation of a mobile OPAC
15:31 cait oleonard: :)
15:31 libsysguy cait yes he did
15:31 libsysguy it looks awesome
15:31 cait rambutan: you can check with hlt if you want to make sure I think
15:31 libsysguy and oleonard yes very much so
15:32 libsysguy also oleonard, do I put the single file for dialog from the development file into the plugins folder for koha
15:32 libsysguy then just replace jquery-ui.js
15:33 oleonard libsysguy: No single file for dialog. Re-build the jquery-ui.js file and include the dialog widget.
15:33 libsysguy ok oleonard
15:33 wahanui oleonard is still here, if you just wish hard enough. or Koha's master UI designer
15:34 oleonard Thanks for the update wahanui
15:36 libsysguy oleonard: I don't mean to beat you down with questions but I have one more
15:36 oleonard Of course
15:37 libsysguy is jquery-ui included in one of the included header files or do I need to include it in the file I'm working on
15:38 oleonard It is included globally now
15:38 libsysguy sweet
15:38 libsysguy off to test my new dialog then :p
15:38 oleonard libsysguy: What will you use dialog for?
15:39 libsysguy holiday, to create a form based on what kind of recurrence you are setting up
15:39 * libsysguy is building out recurrences to work similar to google calendar
15:40 oleonard libsysguy: Does it replace the expanding panel the holidays page uses now?
15:40 libsysguy only part of it
15:40 libsysguy i can have it replace the whole thing
15:40 * libsysguy is now worried
15:41 oleonard Seems weird to have two different "show me a new panel" type interaction on the same page
15:42 libsysguy I had the click date expand the panel and removed all the verbage at the bottom for repeating holidays and replaced it with a checkbox for repeat.
15:42 libsysguy checking the box will allow open the box
15:42 jcamins cait: just got back.
15:42 libsysguy but I can have the dropdown open in the form as well
15:42 jcamins Will look at your feedback and incorporate it.
15:42 cait jcamins: that's ok :)
15:42 cait i left you gazillions of messages :P
15:42 cait working on the see also now
15:43 jcamins The Did you mean feature is pretty rough, but I wanted someone other than me to look at it and give me opinions.
15:43 cait useicu seems to make a difference if my an index searches work or not
15:43 cait jcamins: actually I don't think it's rough at all
15:43 cait I enjoyed testing :) I think the small glitch will be easy to fix
15:43 cait it's very fast too
15:43 cait much faster than I expected it to be
15:44 cait and I love that you included a fallback for when javascript is deactivated
15:44 jcamins cait: now that you describe the results of your testing, I understand why you got the error message about the SHA-1 information.
15:44 cait waiting for my reindex to finish :)
15:45 cait jcamins: not sure i do
15:45 jcamins cait: that patch de facto reverted a previous change.
15:45 cait i git pulled this morning, and it didn't apply, I tested on a new branch this afternoon
15:46 jcamins On my system it worked, because I have every popssible combination of authorities patches in every order.
15:46 jcamins So it was able to make stuff up. ;)
15:46 cait oh
15:46 cait that sounds complicated :)
15:46 wizzyrea this thing where the overdues report doesn't list the patron name is really harshing my mellow.
15:46 wizzyrea in the export, I mean
15:47 cait hm
15:47 cait on master?
15:47 cait I thought there was a patch from kyle for that, but I might be mistaken
15:47 wizzyrea there is
15:47 cait and it doesn't work still? :(
15:47 wizzyrea just we don't have it
15:47 wizzyrea and we won't get it for a while
15:47 cait oh
15:47 jcamins cait: I need a hint.
15:47 jcamins What is the typo?
15:47 cait ))
15:48 wizzyrea because I do circ, and i'm not super confident about 3.8 yet.
15:48 cait as a programmer... you should be sensitive to that :P
15:48 jcamins It's in a string.
15:48 cait wizzyrea: I undertand, you are stuck :(
15:48 jcamins My parser is turned off whenever it hits quotes.
15:48 cait wizzyrea: you could remodel one with sql reports?
15:48 wizzyrea and we can't go up in the 3.6 series
15:48 wizzyrea yea, sure I could
15:48 cait why can't you go up in 3.6?
15:48 jcamins cait: buttons?
15:48 cait the HASH things looked like buttons
15:48 jcamins I didn't use buttons.
15:49 jcamins Ah.
15:49 jcamins I will change the styling to look less button-y.
15:50 cait jcamins: I think I kinda expected normal links, like the links in the records and in other places
15:51 jcamins I guess you don't like the border.
15:51 cait I don't know exactly if that's the best way of displaying the suggestions... maybe we need oleonard :)
15:51 cait nope
15:51 cait and the shadow
15:51 jcamins oleonard:
15:51 cait if there is one, might be the browser
15:51 jcamins oleeeoooonnnnnaaaaaarrrrrrdddddddddd!!!! We need you! Help us, oh wise UI expert!
15:52 oleonard Lay it on me.
15:52 * cait sends cookies
15:53 JoeLib001 Hello. :-)
15:53 jcamins We need advice on what the suggestions in this page should be formatted as: http://screencast.com/t/gzA9ExcCx
15:53 libsysguy blah the dialog needs some theming…as is looks like poop
15:53 jcamins That's with border.
15:53 jcamins oleonard: http://screencast.com/t/XKJR7kjBfKb <-- that is without a border
15:54 oleonard I think plain links would be fine if the box stood out more
15:54 tcohen what's the best way to batch modify biblio records?
15:54 jcamins Ah-ha! That's what I was missing. How should I make it stand out more?
15:55 jcamins tcohen: depends what you want to do.
15:55 tcohen I introduced the use of RELTERMS
15:55 tcohen and need to fix records so they use the same coded value
15:55 oleonard tcohen: Work on Bug 5725? ;)
15:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5725 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, laurence.lefaucheur, Patch doesn't apply , Batch modifications for Biblios
15:55 JoeLib001 Only way I have batch modified biblio records is with MARCEdit.
15:55 * jcamins generally exports everything, modifies with a script, then overlays.
15:56 tcohen thanks oleonard
15:56 tcohen jcamins: can that be done in a safe manner?
15:57 JoeLib001 jcamins: I got my Git Install working. I applied the patch and it works.
15:59 jcamins tcohen: yup. Just overlay on biblionumber.
15:59 jcamins JoeLib001: excellent! Time to sign off on it!
15:59 jcamins git?
15:59 wahanui i heard git was http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git
15:59 jcamins The page that wahanui is not referring you to has instructions on how to do that.
15:59 jcamins There we go. That page.
16:00 tcohen jcamins: is that an option for bulkmarcimport?
16:00 jcamins tcohen: I don't think so. I always use a matching rule with stage_records and commit_records.
16:00 jcamins I have to ask druthb for an example bulkmarcimport command line every time I want to use it.
16:01 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #798: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 3 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/798/
16:01 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 4198 - deleting an authority refreshes the page
16:01 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 4198 - Followup - PerlTidy authorities-home.pl
16:01 jenkins_koha * mtj: Bug 8463 - Koha/SearchEngine/Solr/Search.pm fails perlcritic test
16:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4198 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , deleting an authority refreshes the page
16:01 Morthland11 My OPAC seems to have some sort of localization.
16:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8463 major, P1 - high, ---, mtj, Pushed to Master , Koha/SearchEngine/Solr/Search.pm fails perlcritic test
16:01 tcohen thanks jcamins
16:02 Morthland11 My OPAC cannot be reached on the internet out of town.
16:02 jcamins @later tell mtj Ping me when you're around? I've run into trouble with the layout of the "Powered by Koha" code, and I don't want to fix it in a way that ruins the idea.
16:02 huginn jcamins: The operation succeeded.
16:03 jcamins Morthland11: that sounds like an Apache/network configuration issue.
16:03 jcamins Morthland11: or, more likely, your server is down and it just so happens you're out of town. ;)
16:03 Morthland11 Ha. No, I'm not out of town.
16:03 Morthland11 I called Amazon support,
16:03 wizzyrea your DNS is incorrect?
16:03 Morthland11 and they couldn't access it.
16:03 wizzyrea or not propagating correctly?
16:04 Morthland11 I can access it from home,
16:04 wizzyrea can you ping the server by name?
16:04 Morthland11 outside of the local network.
16:04 wizzyrea right, but you are still in the same ISP?
16:04 Morthland11 Yes.
16:04 wizzyrea or you are using the same DNS servers?
16:04 wizzyrea yea probably DNS then
16:04 Morthland11 likely the same IP
16:04 Morthland11 I doubt it,
16:04 Morthland11 I have forwarding from GoDaddy,
16:05 Morthland11 and the Amazon guy gets my IP address and Port.
16:05 Morthland11 our OPAC is at http://opac.morthland.org
16:05 jcamins Morthland11: I am confused. You called Amazon to troubleshoot a local server?
16:05 wizzyrea works from Kansas
16:05 jcamins I thought you were hosted on AWS?
16:06 wizzyrea and search works and all of that
16:06 jcamins The OPAC works fine.
16:06 wizzyrea it does redirect to an IP/Port combo
16:06 Morthland11 huh.
16:06 Morthland11 Well,
16:06 Morthland11 Maybe the problem is solved.
16:06 Morthland11 I don'
16:06 Morthland11 t
16:06 * wizzyrea whispers "DNS"
16:06 Morthland11 know that I've done anything.
16:07 wizzyrea also, I think you want to set up name hosts on your server
16:07 wizzyrea because then your urls will be prety
16:07 wizzyrea pretty
16:07 Morthland11 How would DNS be the issue? doesn't DNS just resolve the opac.morthland.org?
16:07 Morthland11 I've been wondering how to do that.
16:07 wizzyrea if it's not propagating everywhere, or a particular ISP's DNS servers aren't updating from the root
16:07 wizzyrea it won't
16:08 wizzyrea it does happen sometimes.
16:08 Morthland11 How can I fix that?
16:08 oleonard jcamins: Maybe a milder version of the stock "alert" dialog? http://screencast.com/t/54aguGV0 Or maybe that stands out /too/ much
16:08 wizzyrea you can't
16:08 Morthland11 Just have to wait?
16:08 wizzyrea but you can have the people complaining call their ISP
16:08 wizzyrea say "I can't resolve this URL but it works from the rest of the internet"
16:08 wizzyrea and they'll call their DNS guy, and he'll go, OH GOD MY SERVERS ARE BORKED WE ARE RUNING ON STALE CACHES and fix it ;)
16:09 mib_n2ebz7 Hello - can anyone confirm (or not!) if the publication sort on Koha is derived from the 260 tag or the 008? Or is is customisable? Koha 3.6
16:09 jcamins oleonard: maybe a little too much, but definitely better.
16:09 Morthland11 Can you link me to some help with this name servers issue?
16:10 jcamins Morthland11: just google "dns propagation"
16:10 Morthland11 * name hosts
16:10 jcamins mib_n2ebz7: checking now.
16:10 mib_n2ebz7 jcamins: thanks!
16:11 jcamins mib_n2ebz7: sorts on 008.
16:11 jcamins oleonard: any suggestions how to make it milder?
16:12 mib_n2ebz7 jcamins: That is what I thought - damn. Thanks though. Just need to find a way to move tags to sort correctly!
16:12 jcamins oleonard: actually, what if I posted the revised patch, so you could take a look if you were so inclined.
16:13 oleonard I could try, but I've got like two authority records total.
16:13 jcamins oleonard: well, do a search that returns one of them. ;)
16:14 cait oleonard: his tests are using 1 record :P
16:14 Morthland11 I mean,
16:14 Morthland11 how can I make my urls pretty?
16:15 francharb see ya all
16:15 wizzyrea set up named virtualhosts
16:15 jcamins Revised patch attached to bug 8209.
16:15 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8209 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , "Did you mean?" suggestions based on authorities
16:15 oleonard Toned down: http://screencast.com/t/ZEd4ekv9 And I think I like it better left-justified?
16:16 jcamins Ooh, yes, I like that.
16:17 jcamins Now, what CSS did you use to get something like that?
16:17 Morthland11 like here?
16:17 Morthland11 http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/vhosts/name-based.html
16:17 jcamins Morthland11: yes.
16:18 jcamins cait: actually, don't pull down the new version of bug 8209 yet. I'd prefer to amend the patch with the good CSS.
16:18 JoeLib001 jcamins: I have looked at that page. I don't know what I am looking for for signing off on something.
16:19 cait oleonard: jcamins: maybe make the .. hm spacing between terms a bit wider?
16:19 cait or use some kind of separator
16:19 cait but I think a bit of blank space would be nicer
16:20 jcamins JoeLib001: you're right. It isn't on that page.
16:20 jcamins Sorry!
16:20 jcamins JoeLib001: I am looking for the page where the instructions *are*.
16:20 jcamins signing off is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Sign_off_on_patches
16:20 jcamins signing off?
16:20 wahanui signing off is a great idea!
16:20 JoeLib001 http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Sign_off_on_patches ?
16:20 jcamins That's the one.
16:20 JoeLib001 Ah, there.
16:20 wahanui somebody said ah, there was none I think or another factor
16:20 jcamins signing off is also at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Sign_off_on_patches
16:20 wahanui okay, jcamins.
16:20 jcamins signing off?
16:20 wahanui hmmm... signing off is a great idea! or at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Sign_off_on_patches
16:26 JoeLib001 So all I need to do is run: git format-patch -s --subject-prefix='PATCH] [SIGNED-OFF' origin/master
16:27 jcamins JoeLib001: actually, you can just do `git format-patch -s -1`, then attach the file it creates to bugzilla.
16:28 jcamins I like the yellow you came up with, oleonard. What color was it?
16:29 oleonard border-color #F4ECBE, background-color #FFFBEA
16:30 * cait waits for another reindex to finish
16:31 jcamins Yes, that's very nice.
16:31 jcamins border-radius of... 3px?
16:31 cait oh, rounded corners!
16:31 oleonard Yup
16:31 oleonard margin: .5em 0; padding: .5em;
16:35 nengard can someone point me to the bug report that caused this to change:
16:35 nengard "Prior to Koha 3.8 - Items in a record displayed in Alphabetical order by
16:35 nengard "Current Location" in the staff client. Now they are alphabetical by "Home
16:35 nengard Branch"."
16:36 jcamins nengard: you reported the bug, but I don't remember exactly which one it is.
16:36 nengard hehe
16:36 nengard well that might help with the search
16:36 nengard :)
16:37 jcamins Chances are good that I objected.
16:37 nengard but 7271
16:37 cait hm didn't wizzyrea do something about item searching?
16:37 nengard bug 7271
16:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7271 normal, P3, ---, wizzyrea, Pushed to Stable , Revert getitems default sort to homebranch instead of holding branch
16:37 nengard yep it was wizzy not me
16:37 nengard if that's it
16:37 nengard and jcamins did not object
16:37 nengard he pushed it to 3.6.5
16:37 nengard :)
16:38 jcamins I objected to the side effect of bug 6600, but looks like I dealt with it by telling wizzyrea to fix it..
16:38 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6600 normal, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Library name linking wrong if current location is different
16:39 * jcamins likes this way of solving problems.
16:39 jcamins wizzyrea: fix it! :D
16:40 * jcamins leaves wizzyrea to determine what needs fixing.
16:42 jcamins cait++
16:43 cait and I meant sorting not searching...
16:43 cait *sigh*
16:43 cait hope you all read what I meant :)
16:43 cait jcamins: moving on to bug 6617
16:43 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6617 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , table of contents not printing right if entered right
16:43 cait can you give me some hints about cataloguing?
16:44 oleonard wahanui: forget ah, there
16:44 wahanui oleonard: I forgot ah, there
16:45 cait ah, I see there is some on the bug
16:46 jcamins oleonard: cait: http://screencast.com/t/nkfkpNbTgyBG
16:47 * oleonard likes that
16:47 * jcamins too.
16:48 JoeLib001 Ok, I think I did it. http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi
16:48 cait I am still waiting for the picture :)
16:48 cait sloooow internet
16:48 JoeLib001 Woops.
16:48 JoeLib001 http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8550
16:48 huginn 04Bug 8550: normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Z39.50 searches for ISBN/ISSN problematic
16:49 jcamins JoeLib001: now mark that bug "Signed off," and it'll be ready for QA.
16:49 jcamins :)
16:49 JoeLib001 There we go. :-)
16:50 oleonard jcamins: So the "not what you expected" box loads in the HTML, then is replaced with the actual results by JS
16:51 cait jcamins: it won't load the pic :( I will check from home
16:51 cait I think I should go and check if my bike is still there :)
16:51 cait will be back in around 30 min I think
16:51 JoeLib001 Cool. :-) So, now it goes through QA processing and an official patch will be released?
16:51 jcamins oleonard: right.
16:52 cait JoeLib001: QA looks at it and maybe adds another sign off
16:52 cait then next is RM, who might also add a sign-off
16:52 cait but it will probably not be a different patch really :)
16:52 JoeLib001 Gotcha.
16:52 cait and then it gets pushed to master (what will be 3.10) and after that if it's a bug to 3.8 and 3.6.x too
16:52 JoeLib001 So, it's in the loop. :-)
16:52 cait yep
16:53 cait bbl :)
16:53 oleonard jcamins: I think the box should be removed if there are no suggestions.
16:54 oleonard jcamins: I also don't like the lag between the start of page load and whatever is going to happen in that box. I wonder if that could be handled differently.
16:55 jcamins oleonard: you're the one who told me not to move content!
16:55 jcamins :P
16:55 oleonard ?
16:55 jcamins When I proposed doing that, you said "don't shift the content by adding or removing the suggestion box."
16:55 jcamins Or something along those lines.
16:56 oleonard I did?
16:56 jcamins I think so.
16:56 jcamins Someone did, and I gave it all the weight that I would give you.
16:56 * oleonard will insist he didn't until presented with IRC logs
16:57 jcamins The problem with not doing it via AJAX is that the alternative would be to make every single search slower.
16:57 oleonard I don't see a problem with doing it via AJAX since there's a non-JS-dependent fallback.
16:58 jcamins But there will always be a delay with AJAX.
16:59 oleonard I'm picturing now having the box hidden by default and only shown if there are AJAX results...but I'm not sure how you accommodate the non-js users
16:59 jcamins Hm.
17:00 jcamins How about we leave it as it is for now and get more opinions, because I'm sure that's what I initially suggested and was shot down on.
17:00 oleonard Sure, especially if that helps track down my evil twin
17:01 jcamins Hehe.
17:04 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6448 follow-up, DBrev number <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6271f9b6c45e8c07cd2c0065884cb2311187d40a> / Bug 6448 [2/3] Barcodes::EAN13 autoBarcode <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=28e5427c600a2cfcf20c294713eb625b4b967f3a> / Bug 6448 [1/3] EAN-13/UPC-A itemBarcodeInputFilter <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=089b1151f5d9222e7
17:05 JoeLib001 jcamins: Thanks for the help. :-) Now I get to go do something less fun. ;-)
17:06 Morthland11 I can't seem to figure out this Named Virtual Host issue.
17:08 jenkins_koha Starting build #799 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 29 days ago)
17:43 nengard i don't see a bug for this - but i know it's a bug - does anyone know of a bug for forgive fines at check in not forgiving fines?
17:44 nengard Like I said I thought I knew it was a bug but don't see a report
17:44 jcamins Sounds familiar.
17:44 nengard yeah
17:44 nengard that's why it's bugging me
17:44 nengard i found this http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5216
17:45 huginn 04Bug 5216: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha.sekjal, ASSIGNED , Returning lost material with Forgive Fines does not forgive overdue charges
17:45 nengard but that's just with lost items ? but i think it's all items
17:45 jcamins I think melia reported a bug relating to dropbox mode.
17:45 cait I think it included that
17:45 cait the forgiving fines - and she was told it was a different proble than the wrong due date
17:45 nengard okay
17:45 cait the bug should have a reference to another bug maybe
17:45 nengard let's see if i can find that ;)
17:46 melia the ones I looked at were 5644 and and 8338
17:46 nengard yeah those are it
17:46 cait oh hi melia :)
17:46 nengard i just looked
17:46 nengard aren't
17:46 nengard those aren't it
17:46 melia hi :)
17:46 cait hope I remembered correctly
17:46 nengard I'm gonna report one and if it's wrong someone can mark it a dup
17:54 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @ByWaterSolution: "Socially tapping into the catalog! http://t.co/IgP4VbiX #kohails"
17:55 jcamins Boy, reindexing 100k+ records is boring.
18:01 cait heh
18:12 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #799: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 4 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/799/
18:12 jenkins_koha * dcook: Bug 8455 - Check ins processed through "Check Out" tab of the Patron Record ignore Circulation System Preferences
18:12 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 8455 - Followup - perltidy renewscript.pl
18:12 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8455 normal, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Master , Check ins processed through "Check Out" tab of the Patron Record ignore Circulation System Preferences
18:12 jenkins_koha * adrien.saurat: Bug 8477: Displays home/holding branches on return page
18:12 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: bug 8477 follow-up for [HTML4] coding guideline
18:12 jenkins_koha * dpavlin: Bug 6448 [3/3] EAN-13 barcode labels
18:12 jenkins_koha * dpavlin: Bug 6448 [1/3] EAN-13/UPC-A itemBarcodeInputFilter
18:12 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8477 trivial, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Pushed to Master , Display home & holding branches when checking in
18:12 jenkins_koha * dpavlin: Bug 6448 [2/3] Barcodes::EAN13 autoBarcode
18:12 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 6448 follow-up, DBrev number
18:12 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6448 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Master , EAN-13 barcode support
18:12 jcamins nengard: I'm rebasing bug 6617 now.
18:12 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6617 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Patch doesn't apply , table of contents not printing right if entered right
18:12 nengard woo hoo
18:12 nengard :)
18:13 nengard wanted that for years now
18:13 nengard can't wait to sign off
18:14 oleonard jcamins: DidYouMeanFromAuthorities pref is only for OPAC?
18:14 jcamins oleonard: yes.
18:15 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @kohails: "#kohails Socially tapping into the catalog! http://t.co/tNw27nqo"
18:15 oleonard I wonder if the pref name should be OPACDidYouMeanFromAuthorities just to be clear. At the very least the description should say OPAC I think
18:16 jcamins oleonard: I'll do a follow-up adding it to the staff client. The markup is a bit different, and I figured it made more sense to start with one.
18:16 oleonard Then I definitely think this first patch should create "OPACDidYouMeanFromAuthorities"
18:17 oleonard Since there will be one for the staff client
18:18 nengard jcamins still doesn't work .. it applies but now my toc is replaced with the word Test
18:18 nengard it's still in the Marc though
18:19 jcamins And have two sysprefs?
18:19 jcamins I can do that.
18:19 jcamins But not right this moment because I am reindexing in a different branch.
18:19 jcamins With the word "Test"?
18:19 jcamins I wonder what patch I just attached to the bug.
18:19 jcamins You're sure it says "Test" with that capitalization?
18:19 jcamins "Test" does not appear anywhere in the patch.
18:20 jcamins Screenshot please? :)
18:20 jcamins Oh, and you did an Alt-refresh to reload the CSS, right?
18:20 oleonard Shift-refresh
18:21 jcamins oleonard: except on a Mac, where Shift doesn't reload the CSS, apparently?
18:21 oleonard ?
18:21 * jcamins was told that at some point, and, not being sure which was true, just uses Alt-Shift-refresh.
18:22 eythian jcamins: ctrl-shift-f5 in some browsers, innit?
18:23 oleonard ctrl-shift-F5-~-Scroll lock-secrethandshake
18:24 jcamins eythian: okay, I confess... I actually just hold down all the modifier keys when I hit refresh.
18:24 jcamins No scroll lock on the Mac laptop keyboard.
18:24 eythian I have pentadactyl installed. "R" is force reload in that which is handy.
18:25 eythian ("r" is regular reload)
18:25 jcamins nengard: note that the MARC standard requires you to enter punctuation into the record. It is not to be supplied by the ILS.
18:27 nengard okay - but if i don't do punctuation it should still show it
18:27 nengard not have it blank
18:27 nengard it showed it before
18:27 jcamins Per the commit message, I removed the 505 from the notes tab since it already appears in the XSLT.
18:27 jcamins You said it still appears in the XSLT, same as before, right?
18:28 nengard right
18:28 nengard and does it remove it from the notes even if xslt is off?
18:29 jcamins No.
18:29 nengard I think it should be in both places always
18:29 nengard people can customize their XSLT and CSS if they want and I know people who are removing it from the top CSLT
18:29 jcamins Okay, I can do that easily enough.
18:29 nengard XSLT
18:29 nengard but, anyway, nothing has changed in the staff client
18:29 nengard checking the opac now
18:30 jcamins When I was at ByWater, I remember a lot of people complaining about it showing up *in* the Notes tab.
18:30 jcamins Hence the removal.
18:30 nengard in the opac it looks the same
18:30 jcamins And you have an enhanced 505? ind2=0?
18:30 nengard I have two 505s in the staff it shows them both but one is blank (the title/author one) in the opac the formatted one shows but there is no title/author one
18:30 nengard let me do a video
18:31 * oleonard requests "Take on me" by A-Ha.
18:31 jcamins Sounds like you may not have the indicator 2 set correctly. Now that you point it out, I realize that I made an almost certainly unreasonable assumption that it would be correct.
18:32 jcamins Good point.
18:32 nengard okay it was the indicator - in the opac it look like it will be nice, but if it's the second toc it's smooching it to the first :) screenshot coming
18:33 jcamins nengard: you have two 505 fields with the same contents.
18:33 nengard jcamins see the bug
18:33 jcamins nengard: yes, I just looked at the screen shot.
18:33 nengard and yes I do, but only for testing - the 505 is a repeatable fieldand might have diff contents in each
18:33 jcamins Oh, wait, there's more.
18:34 jcamins :)
18:34 nengard the last library i trained had 4 505 fields on one record
18:34 jcamins Yes, often there will be dozens.
18:34 jcamins Where they are continuations of each other.
18:34 jcamins The "Contents:" label implies that the contents are separate.
18:34 jcamins I suppose I could make it "Contents (continued):"
18:34 jcamins Better?
18:35 nengard i'm lost
18:35 nengard i see the contents label only once
18:35 jcamins Yes.
18:35 jcamins That was intentional.
18:35 nengard oh okay
18:35 nengard that's fine if the label is there only once, but we need some spacing between them
18:35 nengard right now the second starts on the same line the first left off
18:35 jcamins Ohhh.
18:35 jcamins I see.
18:35 nengard :)
18:35 jcamins Sorry, I was looking at the next line, which looks perfectly correct to me.
18:36 nengard bingo
18:36 nengard in the staff it doesn't have the fancy formatting at all, but doesn't run in to the previous TOC
18:36 jcamins As for the intranet, I didn't update it yet because this is mostly CSS, so better to agree on the formatting before I put it in two places.
18:36 nengard got it!
18:37 nengard so i'd say put it back in the title notes just cause people will complain
18:37 nengard and then add spacing and it will be perfect
18:39 * jcamins doesn't generally submit patches fait accompli. What's the point of having a community if you're not going to intimidate them until they give you feedback? ;)
18:39 jcamins Uhhh... that is...
18:39 jcamins have some fudge?
18:39 jcamins Gotcha.
18:41 nengard :)
18:43 nengard jcamins your patch also did something strange with the cover images
18:43 nengard it made it so that only the title floated to the right of the cover
18:43 jcamins With the cover images?
18:43 nengard and the rest was below
18:43 nengard in the opac
18:43 eythian nengard: http://manual.koha-community.org/3.8/en/stafflists.html#mergebibrecs -- "Merging will only work with two items that use the same bibliographic framework." ... "If the records were created using different frameworks, Koha will also ask you what Framework you would like the newly merged record to use."
18:43 nengard i just checked master and now it's a-ok but when i was looking at your patch it wasn't
18:44 nengard eythian, thanks that was a new dev in 3.8 and i didn't update the text! :)
18:44 nengard doing it now
18:44 eythian nengard: it doesn't appear to ever ask for the framework now
18:44 eythian cool :)
18:44 jcamins Odd. I don't see that.
18:44 nengard jcamins i use openlibrary if that matters
18:44 nengard eythian - wait are you saying it doesn't ask which framework anymore?
18:44 jcamins Probably.
18:44 nengard if you have two of different frameworks?
18:44 nengard if you have two of the same it doesn't ask
18:45 eythian nengard: my client is saying that, I haven't checked. If you have two the same it doesn't ask. I'll test it now,.
18:45 nengard if you have two of the same it shouldn't ask - if you have two diff it should
18:46 nengard or did when i wrote that :)
18:46 eythian nengard: I just checked, you are correct.
18:46 eythian two different does ask.
18:46 nengard whew
18:46 nengard okay removing that note
18:47 nengard changes pushed - they'll be live tomorrow
18:48 nengard eythian do you have the power to refresh the db schema page?
18:48 eythian I don't think so
18:48 nengard it was last updated in May and needs some new info
18:48 nengard meh
18:48 nengard :(
18:48 eythian oh maybe
18:48 nengard ooo
18:49 eythian hmm weird
18:49 nengard ?
18:50 eythian I have access to the server, but I can't see schema on there...
18:50 * eythian looks more
18:50 eythian ahh, nginx, not apache
18:52 eythian > robin is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported.
18:52 eythian nope, I don't have the power.
18:52 eythian rangi does
18:53 cait you got reported - uhoh
18:53 cait :)
18:53 * eythian flees to Europe to hide
18:53 jcamins nengard: in order to get this to play nicely with a previous non-enhanced TOC, I have to add a carriage return between the label "Contents:" and the actually contents. Thoughts on indenting it to make it more clear?
18:53 eythian oh wait
18:54 cait lol
18:55 nengard i like the idea of an indent
18:56 nengard rangi eythian says you're the only one with the power to update schema.k-c.org ? can you do that? It's months out of date and there are new db changes
18:56 nengard @later tell rangi eythian says you're the only one with the power to update schema.k-c.org ? can you do that? It's months out of date and there are new db changes
18:56 huginn nengard: The operation succeeded.
18:56 jcamins Good, 'cause that's what you're getting.
18:56 nengard :)
18:57 cait eythian: back in marseille now?
18:57 eythian cait: yep
18:57 eythian it's warm here.
18:57 cait yeah it's warm here too
18:57 cait was in the city today, but got tired of walking around pretty fast
18:57 jcamins Ooh, the indent makes it a lot easier to read.
18:58 eythian cait: you should have walked slower then.
18:58 cait trust me, i was slow
18:58 cait i would have fallen over if walking any slower
18:59 jcamins I am making the assumption that anyone who sets indicator 2 knows what they are doing, but anyone who doesn't has even odds of getting it wrong.
19:01 jcamins nengard: try the new patch?
19:01 jcamins And remember it is OPAC-only until we agree.
19:01 nengard okey dokey
19:04 nengard jcamins bug updated
19:05 jcamins Oh, wow.
19:05 jcamins That's really weird.
19:05 jcamins You said you are using open library?
19:06 cait can someone check a record without items in staff? detail page?
19:06 jcamins I don't get any embedded search screens, but there was a bug about a 7xx field causing it.
19:06 jcamins Since fixed.
19:07 jcamins So this is probably another field causing the problem.
19:07 mbalmer is Jorgias ubuntu laptop now usable?
19:07 jcamins mbalmer: who? Huh?
19:07 cait mbalmer: I think it is, but haven't seen her
19:07 mbalmer perfect.
19:08 mbalmer I guess it was missing firmware.
19:08 cait probably
19:08 cait so someone can check? please? :)
19:10 jcamins Hm.
19:10 jcamins I'm not sure I like OpenLibrary covers.
19:10 jcamins However, I fixed the problem.
19:10 oleonard cait: What's the problem?
19:10 wahanui the problem is probably its human beings doing it
19:10 pastebot "eythian" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "nengard: suggested manual content change" (7 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/70
19:11 * oleonard winks knowingly at wahanui
19:11 eythian nengard: a client got a little confused by the word 'show' when it doesn't actually show you.
19:11 cait the item tab is... messed up badly
19:11 nengard okey dokey
19:11 eythian ta :)
19:12 jcamins nengard: new patch uploaded.
19:12 nengard eythian change made and pushed - live tomorrow
19:12 nengard jcamins checking now
19:13 eythian nengard: cheers :)
19:13 nengard jcamins almost ? new screenshot coming
19:24 nengard jcamins how can you not like open library???? the other choices are amazon and google - both trying to take over the world
19:24 nengard open library is free and open and good
19:25 jcamins nengard: I use my own pictures.
19:25 jcamins And they don't cover other elements of the page.
19:25 nengard for libraries with 10s of thousands of titles that'a a lot of images to take :)
19:26 jcamins Yes, that is true.
19:27 jcamins But I still prefer the local cover images/Google books javascript.
19:28 jcamins Incidentally, have I mentioned recently how much I *hate* CSS?
19:28 cait ok, no real problem all - it#s my German data
19:28 jcamins Just for everyone's amusement: http://screencast.com/t/yWpGQ6b9J2z
19:35 rangi Morning
19:36 eythian hiya
19:37 rangi nengard: I'll update the schema when I've pushed those changes to 3.8.x
19:37 jcamins And now I can't get the indent back.
19:38 nengard thanks rangi!
19:38 nengard although some of those fields were 3.10 fields only
19:38 nengard i think
19:38 rangi Since we link to it in koha, I don't run it off master
19:38 rangi Yeah that's why not done yet
19:38 jcamins Ohhh.
19:39 jcamins Figured it out.
19:39 rangi Otherwise ppl running 3.8
19:39 jcamins Remember how I said I didn't like OpenLibrary's Javascript?
19:39 rangi Get confused
19:39 jcamins Well I reeeeaaaalllllyyyyyy don't like OL's javascript.
19:40 rangi I don't think it's theirs
19:40 rangi It's ours
19:40 jcamins rangi: no, I don't blame them.
19:40 jcamins I mean, not the organization.
19:40 jcamins It just wrecks havoc on CSS.
19:40 jcamins The GB javascript you wrote works much better. :)
19:40 rangi Yeah but we wrote it
19:41 jcamins I know.
19:41 rangi Just to the logs it looks like it's theirs
19:41 jcamins Ah.
19:42 jcamins FTR, I dislike our implementation of OpenLibrary covers. I have nothing against the OpenLibrary project.
19:42 rangi :-)
19:42 rangi I think I wrote that too, originally
19:42 rangi Based on gb
19:43 jcamins Well, you did a better job on the GB javascript.
19:43 rangi Hehe
19:43 rangi It may have morphed
19:43 cait it's hard to believe, but there is code like guided reports...
19:43 cait *hides*
19:43 cait ok, that was mean, no cookies for me
19:44 jcamins The stupid indentation doesn't work with OL covers enabled.
19:44 rangi Yeah I might just delete that
19:44 rangi Guided reports
19:44 wahanui hmmm... Guided reports is some of your worst work ever
19:44 rangi See
19:46 jcamins Okay... looks like our best option is to only have indenting for everything other than OL covers.
19:47 rambutan http://50.27.205.227 <- my tech's new raspberry pi with apache and some generic template for demo. I think I may buy a bunch and use them for OPACs.
19:49 * jcamins watches the pi get slashdotted.
19:49 oleonard Quick, set that pi on the windowsill to cool!
19:50 rambutan I ordered mine a day before he did from a different company, and mine is still showing backordered for 11 weeks.
19:50 rambutan it's not even in a case yet :)
19:51 jcamins nengard: no indenting to the right of the cover image.
19:51 nengard that's okay
19:52 nengard being on the right i think is more important
19:52 jcamins However, when it is below a cover image it will indent so that you don't end up with a huge undifferentiated block of text.
19:52 jcamins Which I think is probably a reasonable compromise.
19:53 rangi rambutan: make sure you talk to drojf about it.
19:54 rangi He has it down to an art
19:57 oleonard rangi: I'm curious about the statistics reports you allude to in this mailing list thread: http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.com/Statistics-in-3-6-tp5718413p5718650.html
19:58 rangi Hmm?
19:59 rangi Oh yes, union of issues and old issues with union of items and deleteditems
20:00 rangi And the statistics table for renews and local use
20:00 rambutan what specifically does drojf have down to an art? Something with the PI?
20:00 rangi Running koha on it
20:00 cait running Koha on it :)
20:00 jcamins rambutan: getting Koha working on a pi.
20:00 cait heh
20:00 oleonard rangi: Do you have a saved report for that which you could share?
20:00 rangi Not on my phone
20:01 rangi Email me to remind me and I'll get it
20:01 oleonard Okay, thanks
20:01 rambutan Actually my thought is to just use them for OPAC access--just the web browser accessing the OPAC URL.
20:01 rambutan Although it might be intriguing to run Koha on a Pi and the db on a regular computer
20:02 rangi Put zebra on a regular one too
20:02 rangi But it does all work on one
20:03 jcamins You can make the first Koha RARP! (Redundant Array of Raspberry Pis)
20:04 rambutan My personal goal is to get a stack of them (3-10 or so), hack a regular power supply to feed power to all of them, and run boinc on them.
20:05 jcamins Just 'cause you can? :)
20:05 rambutan yep
20:05 rangi My stop back soon
20:05 cait wha tis boinc?
20:06 rambutan https://boinc.berkeley.edu/
20:06 jcamins A distributed computing platform, I think.
20:06 rambutan https://boinc.berkeley.edu/projects.php
20:06 rambutan in fact, at home right now I'm running a German university project
20:07 rambutan http://boinc.fzk.de/poem/
20:18 rangi back
20:22 trea wb rangi
20:23 rangi thanks
20:24 rangi http://www.stuff.co.nz/lightbox/sport/olympics/rowing/7405357/New-Zealand-win-gold?KeepThis=true
20:24 rangi finally we get a gold
20:24 cait well done :)
20:25 rangi lots of rowing finals tonight
20:35 rangi http://soundcloud.com/fuckmylife/there-might-be-coffee-1 <-- good start to a friday morning
21:09 rangi holy crap
21:09 rangi july 4th
21:09 rangi was the last succesful build of master
21:09 ibeardslee oops
21:09 jcamins I think we're trying to set a record with 3.10: longest period without successfully passing tests.
21:09 rangi oh and we now have 3 failing tests not just two
21:10 jcamins No, it's back to two.
21:10 jcamins One test was fixed.
21:10 jcamins But another was broken.
21:10 rangi ah right
21:10 rangi 3 fails in total tho 1 test is failing twice
21:10 jcamins Yes.
21:11 rangi 6448 eh
21:11 rangi enhancement so i dont have to worry about it for 3.8.x
21:24 rangi any opinions about bug 6655
21:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6655 trivial, P5 - low, ---, meenakshi.r, Pushed to Master , Sorting order of serial issues in OPAC
21:24 rangi it works as advertised
21:24 jcamins +1
21:24 rangi switches the ordering from planneddate to published date
21:24 rangi cool
21:24 rangi ill put it in the 3.8.x
21:26 jcamins Bug 7299... should that go in 3.6.x?
21:26 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7299 normal, P3, ---, alex.arnaud, Pushed to Stable , ILSDI HoldItem service does't set the itemnumber in reserves table
21:27 * rangi looks
21:27 jcamins No, I don't think so.
21:27 jcamins Or maybe yes.
21:27 jcamins I don't know. The lack of an explanation about what exactly the problem is makes it difficult to tell.
21:28 rangi ahh when you place a reserve using ILSDI
21:28 rangi it didnt set the itemnumber, so was always a biblio level reserve
21:28 rangi basically AddReserve changed
21:28 rangi and ILSDI didnt
21:29 jcamins So I guess the question is, when did AddReserve change.
21:29 rangi yeah
21:29 rangi 2009
21:30 jcamins Prior to 3.6.
21:30 rangi 3502810346d5e2b24417c47638f2ee42dd5c61d7
21:30 rangi yep
21:30 jcamins Heh. Okay, a while ago.
21:30 rangi so i think thats needed
21:30 rangi probably not spotted as ILSDI is a dead protocl
21:31 jcamins Bug 3280 will not be going into 3.6.x.
21:31 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3280 normal, P3, ---, semarie-koha, Pushed to Master , opac/opac-sendbasket.pl security leaky
21:31 jcamins I'm still pretty dubious about that patch at all.
21:31 rangi yeah
21:31 rangi its not a security issue .. spam is the worst that could happen
21:35 rangi wth
21:35 rangi I have successfully installed Koha 3.06.02 on CentOS 6.3 a few days ago.
21:35 rangi WHY
21:36 rangi on i know ill pick an old version, that will work well
21:36 rangi on=oh
21:36 jcamins lol
21:37 jcamins Bug 8315?
21:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8315 major, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Stable , fix 'C4::Output 3.02' errors in Koha
21:37 jcamins Guess it's worth taking that one.
21:38 rangi yeah no harm, even if 3.6 isnt currently showing bad behaviour but having those numbers is not useful
21:38 jenkins_koha Starting build #119 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
21:38 jcamins Okay... why am I missing tags/list.pl?
21:39 rangi pass
21:39 jcamins Ah, because there is no list.pl in 3.6.x.
21:40 jcamins A good reason, I think.
22:42 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #119: SUCCESS in 1 hr 4 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/119/
22:42 jenkins_koha meenakshi.r: Bug 6655 - Sorting order of serial issues in OPAC
22:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6655 trivial, P5 - low, ---, meenakshi.r, Pushed to Stable , Sorting order of serial issues in OPAC
22:42 jenkins_koha Starting build #120 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
22:56 rangi http://www.openstack.org/community/companies/
22:56 rangi scrolls to the bottom ;)
22:56 jcamins Awesome!
23:14 rambutan what's joann's nick?
23:14 jcamins Joann, usually.
23:14 rambutan tnx
23:14 rambutan @seen joann
23:14 huginn rambutan: joann was last seen in #koha 2 weeks, 1 day, 11 hours, 48 minutes, and 19 seconds ago: <joann> night all
23:47 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #120: SUCCESS in 1 hr 4 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/120/
23:47 jenkins_koha elliott: Bug 8421 : Added a URI filter to encode a cardnumber for borrowers as to not break patronimage.pl
23:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8421 minor, P5 - low, ---, elliott, Pushed to Stable , patron images fail when barcode for patron has a +
23:47 jenkins_koha Starting build #121 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)