Time Nick Message 21:51 wizzyrea gl at treasury 21:46 jcamins Ah, koc. 21:46 jcamins DBD::sqlite2? 21:41 rangi Right off to treasury I go 21:41 rangi Community++ 21:40 rangi Yay 21:40 * jcamins will provide one. 21:40 rangi But the test is good 21:40 rangi I didn't want to make Bart do that 21:40 rangi For the new dependency 21:40 rangi Needs a follow-up 21:39 jcamins :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D (etc.) 21:39 jcamins Ooh, tests needing sign off? 21:39 rangi U don't even need tables in the db to test 21:39 jcamins Also, I didn't know about DBD::Mock yet when I wrote that, so I was at a huuuuge disadvantage. 21:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5327 major, P3, ---, paul.poulain, Needs Signoff , Unit tests required for all C4 modules 21:39 rangi Bug 5327 again 21:39 rangi And DBD::Mock is ur friend 21:38 jcamins Though actually my development process for that was a little harder because I had two tests. 21:37 rangi Kickarse 21:37 rangi Yeah 21:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8209 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , "Did you mean?" suggestions based on authorities 21:37 jcamins Bug 8209. 21:37 rangi Might help to look at 21:36 rangi Yup 21:36 * wizzyrea giggles 21:36 wahanui you are A-Grade developper on Koha willing to rewrite it from top to bottom. Good Luck jcamins 21:36 jcamins Me? 21:36 rangi What was that patch u did recently 21:36 wizzyrea it's like, omg, making a plan. 21:33 jcamins :) 21:33 libsysguy heh 21:33 jcamins NO! 21:33 jcamins (Koha::Closure not the test) 21:33 libsysguy is there any other way 21:33 jcamins Oh, and make sure it is object-oriented. 21:33 libsysguy ahh ok 21:33 rangi What he said 21:33 rangi I write the test then write the file and sub to pass it 21:33 jcamins libsysguy: you write the tests first, with the first one being use_ok(). Then, you work your way through writing Koha::Closure, making it pass each successive test. 21:31 libsysguy rangi, for writing unit tests without doing work first, do I create the file and stubs? 21:27 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @ranginui: "On my way to do some report writing training for #kohails usually consists of "of course you can, yes really no you don't pay more for that"" 21:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8525 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Highlight matches on details page 21:24 jcamins Bug 8525 is ready for sign off if someone wants to play with some eye candy. 21:19 rangi Heh 21:11 gmcharlt not, perhaps, the best introduction 21:10 * gmcharlt is still dealing with the consequences of that fact that my first beer (years ago) was a Guiness 21:09 huginn gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. Quote #212 added. 21:09 gmcharlt @quote add <eythian> College is a fountain of knowledge, and the students go there to drink, eh? :) 21:08 libsysguy i have found my taste have gotten darker with age 21:08 libsysguy haha 21:08 eythian jcamins: it's a natural progression, I think. 21:08 jcamins Interestingly, almost all my college friends have turned into beer snobs. 21:08 libsysguy we are learning how to properly control ourselves under the influence 21:08 jcamins eythian: trying to come to a deeper understanding of the difference between cheap and non-cheap beer? 21:07 eythian College is a fountain of knowledge, and the students go there to drink, eh? :) 21:07 gmcharlt heh 21:07 libsysguy im allowed to drink cheap beer till then :p 21:07 libsysguy weeks 21:07 libsysguy for the next 2 weels 21:07 libsysguy fine I am still in college 21:06 eythian libsysguy: heathen 21:06 libsysguy beer is beer 21:06 eythian good point well made :) 21:06 libsysguy heh 21:06 jcamins eythian: after the fourth, he won't be able to tell that the fifth is cheap, too. ;) 21:06 eythian libsysguy: he didn't mention that they'll be cheap beers ;) 21:06 libsysguy ahh there they all are 21:05 libsysguy unit tests it is 21:05 rangi If you do unit tests 21:05 libsysguy haha 21:04 rangi I will buy u 5 beers in Reno 21:02 rangi That patch shows u how to mock a db connection 21:02 libsysguy ill update 21:02 rangi Old master? 21:02 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5327 major, P3, ---, paul.poulain, Needs Signoff , Unit tests required for all C4 modules 21:02 rangi Also peep the patch from Bart on bug 5327 21:01 libsysguy where the hell is all that in mine 21:01 rangi And even does neat mock thingd 21:01 rangi Has 21 tests 21:01 rangi Or latest master 21:01 rangi Look at it in 3.8.x 21:00 libsysguy as of last week 21:00 rangi Hmm u on master? 21:00 libsysguy is all that is in there 21:00 rangi Then later 21:00 libsysguy use_ok('C4::Calendar') 20:59 libsysguy 0_0 20:59 rangi Yes it is 20:59 libsysguy heh that can't be it 20:59 rangi Check it out it's cool 20:59 jcamins wizzyrea: we do, though we're trying to stop. 20:59 rangi It's not :-) 20:59 wizzyrea or do we not write db dependent ones anymore 20:59 wizzyrea (unless it's db_dependent_ 20:59 rangi t/Calendar.t 20:58 jcamins Koha_Calendar.t... somewhere? 20:57 libsysguy where are the unit test for Koha::Calendar? 20:57 libsysguy hehe 20:57 rangi So a new module where we write tests first would stop us just creating new mess :-) 20:56 libsysguy ok Koha::Closure.pm it is 20:56 rangi Ie unit tested 20:56 rangi It's solid and well tested now 20:55 rangi Basically we don't want to pollute koha::calendar 20:55 libsysguy poop 20:55 libsysguy haha that is exactly what I was doing 20:54 rangi Last comment there 20:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7351 enhancement, P3, ---, christophe.croullebois, Needs Signoff , ability to edit a range of holidays 20:54 rangi Bug 7351 20:54 libsysguy the hourly bug? 20:54 rangi Check the bugs list Colin had a great comment about it 20:53 libsysguy since it doesn't really have to be a holiday to be closed 20:53 libsysguy I have been calling holidays closures 20:53 libsysguy okay 20:53 rangi Yeah i wouldn't 20:53 libsysguy I was porting over the stuff from C4::Calendar to Koha::Calendar 20:53 rangi Hmm I like that it's just getters 20:52 libsysguy I was just putting it in Koha::Calendar 20:52 rangi Then we can retire c4::calendar 20:52 libsysguy is that where you want it? 20:52 rangi Koha::Holiday 20:52 libsysguy I have to jump through hoops to make it pretty and color coded 20:51 libsysguy ok awesome…i can make it happen without that stuff easily 20:51 rangi It's pure a ui thing 20:51 rangi 1 20:45 libsysguy on a scale of 1 − 10, 10 being the most important thing in Koha, how important is it to differentiate between what type of holiday your closure is. Ex: Weekly, Yearly, etc... 20:40 jcamins Ah. 20:40 libsysguy :) 20:40 libsysguy reminder succeeded 20:40 libsysguy it wasn't 20:39 jcamins Remind me why making the XSLT sysprefs into text fields was a good idea? 20:23 wizzyrea later :) 20:23 Shane-S thanks for the help as always have a good day/night 20:23 wizzyrea and it's no deal to have one 20:23 wizzyrea you do, definitely, need an account. 20:22 Shane-S I was just trying to get it done, I didn't feel I needed an account. The librrarian will though 20:22 wizzyrea i thought wahanui had something in his brain about this 20:22 wizzyrea create a superlibrarian? 20:22 wizzyrea you use it for db updates and that's it 20:22 Shane-S okay probably be back on tomorrow 20:22 wizzyrea really, you don't want to "do stuff" with the db user 20:22 Shane-S yeah pretty painless too :P 20:21 wizzyrea jing is awesome ;) 20:21 wizzyrea :) 20:21 wizzyrea see, a simple picture 20:21 Shane-S okay, thanks! never thought of that 20:21 wizzyrea that should fix your issue 20:21 wizzyrea but yea 20:21 wizzyrea i see 20:21 Shane-S custodians want to lock up 20:21 wizzyrea ah 20:21 Shane-S I will but they are kicking me out 20:21 wizzyrea create a patron 20:21 wizzyrea you can do that right now 20:21 Shane-S okay I will make a user tonight when I remote in 20:21 wizzyrea and never will. 20:21 wizzyrea and never has a branch set. 20:20 Shane-S oh 20:20 wizzyrea and the superlibrarian has no branch set 20:20 wizzyrea keeps the batches based on branch 20:20 wizzyrea it 20:20 wizzyrea yes 20:20 Shane-S really...that causes issue? 20:20 wizzyrea log in as a user that is not the DB user 20:20 wizzyrea perhaps because you are logged in as the super super librarian 20:20 wizzyrea it always helps ;) 20:19 Shane-S wizzyrea: if it helps.. http://screencast.com/t/oISDk6bPEx 20:15 * libsysguy gets off soap box 20:15 libsysguy later oleonard 20:15 * oleonard waves goodbye 20:15 libsysguy heh 20:15 * oleonard picks this as a good time to disappear 20:14 * libsysguy is bitter 20:14 libsysguy now im just pissed at the whole Koha::Calendar file 20:14 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8133 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, elliott, ASSIGNED , hourly loans doesn't know when library closed 20:14 libsysguy bug 8133 is what started my quest 20:13 libsysguy then pushing that array to the db 20:13 * libsysguy ducks 20:13 libsysguy well I told jcamins…but it was storing all of the effing weekdays in an array 20:13 * oleonard accuses libsysguy of hard-coding a 10AM due date in hourly loans 20:13 wizzyrea oy. 20:13 wizzyrea hah. 20:13 libsysguy but it is a cluster**** 20:13 wizzyrea all of it? yikes. 20:12 libsysguy and yes I am re-working all of hourly loans 20:12 wahanui well, libsysguy is Koha's hottest developer or partying with swedes on his deck or koha's youngest developer 20:12 libsysguy libsysguy? 20:12 libsysguy sorry you have to say 20:12 wizzyrea ;) 20:12 wizzyrea oh NOW you perk up 20:12 * libsysguy perks up 20:12 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6398 normal, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, ASSIGNED , Holidays cause date due to be improperly calculated 20:12 wizzyrea bug 6398 20:11 jcamins libsysguy was looking at Koha::Calendar, trying to figure out wth its problem was, I think. 20:11 * Shane-S is installing Jing 20:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8418 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Patch doesn't apply , Koha::Calendar is_holiday ignores all user data 20:11 wizzyrea bug 8418 20:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8110 blocker, P1 - high, ---, kyle.m.hall, Signed Off , Fines accruing on closed days 20:11 wizzyrea bug 8110 20:10 * oleonard hasn't been following that drama 20:10 wizzyrea well and there's drama in calendar too 20:10 oleonard As far as I can tell, the loan period is being calculated correctly at least up until we get into the Koha::Calendar section of CalcDateDue 20:10 wizzyrea if you don't have anything in your queue, I think there is only add items 20:10 Shane-S I don't have all those buttons...I will see if I can do that 20:10 wizzyrea not any particular version 20:09 wizzyrea and that is master. 20:09 wizzyrea you click add items 20:09 wizzyrea http://screencast.com/t/xNrmo2WFrn 20:08 Shane-S I didn't know if I am supposed to hit Add Item(s) or if its an ajax type smart text area 20:07 wizzyrea well here, I will show you what it looks like on mine 20:07 Shane-S FireFox clears the number when I hit "Add Item(s)" 20:07 jcamins Ah. Well, nothing will ever work in IE if it doesn't in FF. 20:07 wizzyrea can you give us a screen capture of your process, like a mini movie 20:06 Shane-S jcamins: no FireFox but wanted to try IE to ensure FFX wasn't the issue 20:00 jcamins Chances are good it Just Won't Work. 20:00 jcamins Shane-S: oh, you're using IE? I should've asked. 19:59 wizzyrea did you try firefox? 19:58 wizzyrea oh, IE 19:58 Shane-S wizzyrea: maybe I have a deeper issue, if you enter a barcdode in the textarea of label creator "New Batch" what does it do, because in Internet Explorer add item(s) opens the search box 19:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8182 major, P1 - high, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Stable , Problem with overdue fine calculations after upgrade 19:56 oleonard Bug 8182 19:56 oleonard 8182 19:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8165 blocker, P1 - high, ---, kyle.m.hall, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, due date of 00:00 instead of 23:59 19:55 wizzyrea bug 8165 19:55 mveron Good night #koha 19:53 wizzyrea yea let me look 19:53 cait circ is not my expert area :( 19:53 cait not sure 19:52 wizzyrea but not sure it's gotten through qa yet? 19:52 wizzyrea I think there's a patch for it 19:52 wizzyrea maybe that's what we're seeing 19:51 wizzyrea where it was setting due dates at 00:00 instead of 23:59 19:51 wizzyrea oh there was a thing 19:51 Shane-S could it be the biblio import? My install is from the packages if that matters 19:51 cait so it's overdue immediately 19:51 cait and then it sets 0:00 today - which is in the past 19:51 cait I get the wird confirmation 19:51 Shane-S wizzyrea, jcamins : same thing... even a working barcode number 55553 in the text area box, click Add Item button, no error but nothing happens, try 0061184 and it errors... 19:50 wizzyrea weird. 19:50 cait 0:00 19:50 oleonard Smart guy 19:50 wizzyrea HAHAHAHAHAHAHA 19:50 cait will recheck 19:49 wizzyrea 10am? 19:49 cait I get the owen screenshot 19:49 wizzyrea did it work? 19:49 cait i did 19:49 wizzyrea well did we test 1? 19:49 wizzyrea hours greater than 1 uh, yea no work. 19:49 cait yep 19:49 wizzyrea and it seems QUITE borked. 19:49 cait libsysguy: be careful - we are testing hourly 19:47 cait heh 19:47 wizzyrea they will laugh a lot. 19:47 * wizzyrea waits for the kiwis to see that. 19:47 wizzyrea wow, that sounds dirty. 19:47 wizzyrea you may have hit refresh or back and bonked your session. 19:47 Shane-S okay be back.... 19:46 wizzyrea and re-login 19:46 jcamins ^^ that'd be more likely to help. 19:46 wizzyrea um, if anything I'd clear your cache and cookies 19:46 jcamins Shane-S: no. 19:46 * Shane-S ponders if restarting the server might fix it 19:45 * cait hands jcamins a cookie 19:45 wizzyrea hehe 19:45 cait hehe 19:45 jcamins I'm helping! 19:45 cait ok, so we agree :) 19:45 jcamins wizzyrea: no, it should be due at 14:20. 19:45 wizzyrea too 19:45 wizzyrea so it's wrong past midnight 19:45 wizzyrea right, that's hat I thought 19:45 cait hm no it should be 15:20 I think 19:45 wizzyrea ping libsysguy 19:45 Shane-S wizzyrea: no spacing in MYSQL it is 0061184 19:45 cait I am not totally sure what it should do :( 19:45 wizzyrea so if you check something out at 12:20 and it should be 2 hours, it is due at 1500? 19:45 cait but i haven't tested hourly in the past 19:44 cait whih seems wrong 19:44 cait when past midnight it was 0:00 19:44 wizzyrea and it's whole hours not partial hours 19:44 wizzyrea or does it compute properly 19:44 wizzyrea does it stick at 00:00 19:44 cait so it happens with 1 and 2 hours for me right now 19:44 cait it doesn't happen when the hours push me after midnight 19:43 wizzyrea 7/30/2012 10:00 19:42 wizzyrea no, date format doesn't change it, and it still doesn't prompt me for a proper due date. 19:42 oleonard Yeah, date format doesn't change the outcome for me (with no fines) 19:41 wizzyrea i'm over the limit and it doesn't prompt for a proper due date 19:41 wizzyrea which is probably another bug - 19:41 wizzyrea well mine is mad about fines too just a sec 19:41 cait happens for every frmat for me 19:41 cait hm 19:40 wizzyrea to mm/dd/yyyy 19:40 wizzyrea from dd/mm/yyyy 19:40 cait but is used to work... and we didn't set one in the past... so this is all very weird 19:40 oleonard From what wizzyrea? 19:40 wizzyrea maybe that's why 19:39 * wizzyrea switches it to US date format 19:39 cait it just is 19:39 cait not a syspref 19:39 cait no 19:39 oleonard Whether to allow you to set a due date in the past 19:39 cait bit tired too 19:39 * cait is confused 19:39 cait or the due date in the past? 19:39 cait the hourly? 19:39 wizzyrea but not sure which 19:39 cait hm? 19:39 * wizzyrea guesses so 19:38 oleonard Is that controlled by a syspref? 19:38 wizzyrea yes, I think we can definitely call it an evil bug 19:38 wizzyrea it just set the due date in the past 19:38 cait so we confirm it's a bug? 19:38 wizzyrea I didn't specify, it didn't complain 19:38 wizzyrea no, when I checked it out 19:38 oleonard wizzyrea: You mean when you specified a due date? 19:38 * oleonard too, db updated 19:38 wizzyrea but it didn't get mad about the due date in the past 19:37 wizzyrea finally got my rules ironed out 19:37 wizzyrea oleonard: mine sets it for 10am too 19:36 Shane-S nothing ok the Koha Catalog screen with the item type and details, let me try direct in MySQL 19:35 Shane-S or you mean in the DB? 19:35 wizzyrea no i mean, in your data. 19:35 Shane-S no I am typing it by hand 19:35 wizzyrea or on the front? 19:35 wizzyrea is there a space on the end of the barcode possibly? 19:35 wizzyrea it's not a bug, mine does it just fine 19:34 Shane-S in Koha 0061184, on its old label 61184 19:33 wizzyrea item/ 19:33 wizzyrea what is the actual barcode on the itme? 19:33 Shane-S okay I am f'ed at this point...if I enter 61184 and click add item, no error, but it doesn't add the item. If I type 0061184 it errors, and still doesn't add the item....How else can I get barcodes for all our books? 19:33 wizzyrea [Mon Jul 30 04:51:29 2012] [error] [client 192.168.1.137] [Mon Jul 30 04:51:29 2012] smart-rules.pl: Use of uninitialized value in string ne at /home/liz/kohaclone/admin/smart-rules.pl line 388., referer: http://koha-staff.lan.nekls.org/cgi-bin/koha/admin/smart-rules.pl?branch=* 19:32 oleonard I guess I missed a db update? 19:32 oleonard DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Unknown column 'overduefinescap' in 'field list' at /home/oleonard/kohaclone/admin/smart-rules.pl line 133. 19:31 wizzyrea let me double check that 19:31 wizzyrea it still does one day 19:31 wizzyrea if I do say, All:Reference, and try to circ a reference book 19:31 wizzyrea as per my default rule 19:31 wizzyrea but it's always picking the All:All default rule, i.e. it's circing for one day 19:30 wizzyrea I can add a rule 19:30 oleonard wizzyrea: Are you not able to add a rule? 19:30 wizzyrea well I can't get it to do anything but the default rule 19:28 cait I have it with 1 and 2 hours circ rules now 19:28 jcamins As I said, I don't use the label tool. 19:28 jcamins I have no further advice, sorry. 19:28 jcamins Shane-s: if you can't use the defaults, you won't be able to get a custom one working. 19:28 oleonard Oh, no, it's not my db after all. 19:27 Shane-s I just have the template/layouts/profiles Koha's install put in there, but no way to see if they work, should I make my own? 19:27 cait it might have something to do with crossing dates? 19:27 cait oleonard: I don't think it's you 19:27 cait oleonard: mine is brand new and I can reproduce 19:27 Shane-s jcamins: nope...just tried typing the barcode in, I know it is 0061184 as I looked it, typed it in the box, hit add item, and it errors. So I can not even try a label 19:25 jcamins Shane-s: but 1 of the three types of labels work? 19:24 * oleonard has a mixed-up db from bug testing 19:24 wizzyrea oleonard: got anything in your logs? 19:24 cait oleonard: hm that works for me :( 19:24 Shane-s jcamins: nope, when you do a batch, you have to add item before the label/profile/layout options...so I am stuck 19:23 wizzyrea O.O 19:23 * oleonard grumbles 19:23 jcamins Any error further back would have resulted in a much more dramatic error. 19:23 oleonard ...now I can't even save a new circ rule 19:23 jcamins Shane-s: however, if you got that error message, it has to do with the data you are giving to Koha. 19:23 rambutan hummm 19:22 Shane-s jcamins: I can try..one sec. 19:22 oleonard rambutan: That's where I took that photo 19:22 rambutan oleonard: used to eat them frequently in Thailand 19:22 wizzyrea well, it would have to be 00:20 for a rightful 5 hours 19:22 jcamins Shane-s: are you able to add those same items to the other types of labels? 19:22 * oleonard can't edit a circ rule 19:22 Shane-s jcamins: that error isn't clueing me in as to a Koha, DB, Apache, or other issue 19:21 cait what should it be? 19:21 cait 07/31/2012 00:00 < looks wrong? 19:21 cait 5 hours for me is tomorrow already 19:21 oleonard Oh wait, no 19:21 Shane-s I have to re-make all my barcodes, only 1 out of 3 label types we have work 19:21 cait perhaps it's something to do with the time? 19:21 cait crazy 19:21 oleonard Not for me cait. duedate: 2012-07-30T10:00:00 with a 5-hour loan period 19:21 wizzyrea see that "reference found where even-sized list expected 19:21 Shane-s jcamins: WARNING: An error was encountered and item(s) not added to batch 1. 19:20 cait 5 works 19:20 cait wow 19:20 jcamins Shane-s: I should point out that I have never used the label tool, and probably never will 19:20 Shane-s jcamins: one second I have to go back into the label maker 19:20 wizzyrea is there something about multiples of 2 hours? 19:20 cait [Mon Jul 30 21:16:14 2012] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] [Mon Jul 30 21:16:14 2012] circulation.pl: Use of uninitialized value $findborrower in substitution (s///) at /home/katrin/kohaclone/circ/circulation.pl line 101., referer: http://localhost:8080/cgi-bin/koha/circ/circulation.pl?borrowernumber=19 19:20 cait [Mon Jul 30 21:16:14 2012] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] [Mon Jul 30 21:16:14 2012] circulation.pl: Reference found where even-sized list expected at /home/katrin/kohaclone/circ/circulation.pl line 97., referer: http://localhost:8080/cgi-bin/koha/circ/circulation.pl?borrowernumber=19 19:20 cait there are some wanrs in the logs 19:19 cait wizzyrea: I will check 19:19 oleonard Math is hard!</barbie_voice> 19:19 jcamins updatedatabase will have nothing to do with it. 19:19 wizzyrea what about a 3 hour loan? 19:19 jcamins Shane-s: what error did you get? 19:19 wizzyrea exactly 10am sounds like a math problem. 19:19 cait whoa? 19:18 Shane-s nothing for today...no koha-error.log, I will run updatedb 19:18 wizzyrea whoa 19:18 oleonard every time 19:18 oleonard Actually the due date isn't 4 hours in the past, it's exactly 10AM today. 19:18 Shane-s jcamins: hmm...checked the error.log it just has 3 lines from the apache restart on Sunday 19:18 cait with all english sample data, only added the rule and record and an item 19:18 cait in a fresh sample base 19:18 oleonard http://screencast.com/t/YlybbvQxMGpT 19:18 cait my rule is: default default 2 hours 19:18 cait oleonard: it happens for me too 19:17 wizzyrea oleonard: can you screencap your rule? 19:17 jcamins Or something like that. 19:16 * cait catalogs 19:16 jcamins Well, it'll be at /var/log/apache2/koha-error.log, most likely. 19:16 wizzyrea past* 19:16 wizzyrea so the rule is for 2 hours in the future, but the date assigned is 4 hours in the pst 19:16 Shane-s jcamins: not sure if that is where I should look or not 19:16 jcamins Error log? 19:16 wahanui Apache logs are only showing chobbs's import job 19:16 jcamins Apache logs? 19:15 jcamins Server logs? 19:15 jcamins No. 19:15 wahanui it has been said that logs is http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/ 19:15 jcamins logs? 19:15 cait configuring rules now :) 19:15 wizzyrea k, sorry just checking the obvious things :) 19:15 oleonard mysql gives the correct time 19:15 Shane-s okay, log is emtpy outside of cataloging...so how can I track down why the label "Add Item" search is failing when I find a book, check the box, and click the add item button and I get the yellow error box 19:15 cait oh good idea 19:15 wizzyrea or possibly even from the mysql reports 19:15 jcamins Apache saves those. 19:15 wizzyrea I mean 19:15 wizzyrea from the mysql command line 19:15 jcamins Shane-s: oh, you're looking for error logs? 19:14 wizzyrea can you do a select now(); from the command line 19:14 wizzyrea I don't think. 19:14 cait oh ok 19:14 wizzyrea wouldn't have to be 19:13 cait with date? 19:13 cait hm i think it would be the same as the server time 19:13 Shane-s okay, well I went there because adding a book to the label creator errored, I guess I will search again without cataloging 19:13 oleonard How would I check the mysql server time? 19:13 jcamins Hehe. 19:13 wahanui 4 is the attribute in bib1.att for title 19:13 jcamins 4? 19:13 jcamins 3? 19:13 oleonard circ rule is for 2 hours 19:13 wizzyrea mysql server time off? 19:12 wahanui 2 is pretty awesome 19:12 cait or 2? 19:12 cait oleonard: just a circ rule for 4 hours? 19:12 jcamins Shane-s: that's what's recorded in action logs. There isn't any more detail. It tells you what the record looked like prior to the change, I believe. 19:12 oleonard Nope 19:12 wizzyrea server time messed up maybe? 19:12 oleonard Koha thinks it's an invalid date because the duedate Koha calculates is actually 4 hours ago rather than 2 hours from now 19:11 oleonard wizzyrea: This error when checking out something with an hourly loan rule http://screencast.com/t/h5V5fi2pce 19:11 Shane-s okay I have a ton of errors in my log, 15,910 lines, there is not much detail just cataloging , action ADD then object is basically incremental. 1,1;2,2;3,3 where can I find a more detailed event? 19:11 wizzyrea oleonard what's the error? 19:07 cait i can try, but it might take a while 19:06 oleonard ...assuming it's not an error in my configuration. 19:06 oleonard I've stepped back through a few random commits over the last two months and get the same error, so it wasn't something recent 19:05 oleonard Can anyone reproduce the error I'm seeing with an hourly loan? 19:05 Shane-s would 952p issue the number is the code word for barcode generates the scanner code? 19:03 Shane-s so in the labels we have barcode, how do I get the number to print, or is that part of the barcode? Basically I want book data, [||| || |||| |], 12367 19:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8268 critical, P2, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Koha should offer way to backup entire db 19:01 drojf jcamins: Applying: Bug 8268: improve error checking / error: patch failed: tools/export.pl:345 7 error: tools/export.pl: patch does not apply 19:01 oleonard rambutan: http://www.screencast.com/t/sHYnUPpU 18:52 oleonard circulation.pl does not contain a form field for duedate, just duedatespec 18:51 oleonard On the other hand, neither does $duedate appear to be coming through with another item type either 18:50 oleonard jcamins: I was just going to try to find out where duedate comes from, because nothing is getting passed to CanBookBeIssued() in this instance 18:49 cait that too 18:49 oleonard I think this shows we all need to be sure to have at least 1 circ rule for an hourly loan when testing. 18:48 jcamins oleonard: is duedate set with javascript? 18:48 cait sounds like a new serious bug :( 18:47 oleonard Loan period for the item type is set to 2 hours 18:47 oleonard ...but why is $duedate coming through as ~4hrs ago? 18:47 oleonard C4/Circulation.pm compares $today (current date and time) with $duedate and finds that $duedate falls before $today, hence the error 18:45 cait ok, now you lost me :) 18:43 oleonard variable "today" evaluating as "2012-07-30T14:38:00" variable "duedate" evaluating as "2012-07-30T10:00:00" 18:42 * cait nods 18:39 oleonard That can't be the whole problem though or no one could be doing hourly loans 18:37 oleonard Interesting... turns out it has an item type for which I specified a loan period in hours 18:29 cait I have no idea really :) 18:28 cait perhaps it asks ... for something? 18:28 cait and there is a valid circ rule? 18:28 cait hm 18:24 oleonard Just a regular scan 18:24 oleonard Similar to... I think it's the same. But I didn't submit a date with it 18:23 cait similar to? 18:23 cait it looks similar than the "checkout in the past" one 18:23 cait uh 18:20 oleonard What's with this error? http://screencast.com/t/h5V5fi2pce 18:15 drojf cool, i'll test it when i'm back 18:14 jcamins Waiting for signoff. :) 18:14 drojf bad regexp, no cookie 18:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8268 critical, P2, ---, jcamins, Passed QA , Koha should offer way to backup entire db 18:13 jcamins I just attached a patch that fixes it to bug 8268. 18:13 jcamins drojf: a misbehaving regular expression. 18:12 drojf lol 18:12 wahanui rumour has it it is not 18:12 drojf jcamins: what is it? 18:10 jcamins drojf: found the problem. 18:06 drojf annoying music from one floor up, i better go shopping 18:05 tcohen will check your code after that 18:05 tcohen i'll hook it so it uses mktemp to create a new dir 18:04 jcamins That's an old version, though. 18:04 jcamins tcohen: https://github.com/jcamins/tamilcontribs 18:04 tcohen :'-( 18:04 jcamins tcohen: yes, that's why I wrote my daemon. 18:03 tcohen koha-index is broken for multiple-site single koha user setup! 18:03 jcamins I'm testing it, and I'm having issues, too. 18:03 drojf hm maybe i broke something myself, at least it is not workin for me atm 18:03 jcamins And it worked initially. 18:03 jcamins Has been for a while. 18:02 drojf ah. i did not know that 18:01 jcamins drojf: the feature is already in master. 18:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8268 critical, P2, ---, jcamins, Passed QA , Koha should offer way to backup entire db 18:01 drojf jcamins: there is only a "signed followup" attached to bug 8268 and everything else is obsoleted. maybe i'm missing something? 17:57 jcamins That didn't take long. 17:56 jcamins So as far as you can tell, it's broken on master? 17:56 drojf hm but the file is not owned by my koha user 17:56 jcamins Hm. 17:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8268 critical, P2, ---, jcamins, Passed QA , Koha should offer way to backup entire db 17:55 drojf i have the same just with bug 8268 17:53 drojf i should go back one patch. i think i did not try it without the plack patch, i just assumed that would work and confirmed it did not work with plack 17:52 jcamins I'll just confirm that the patch works for me. 17:51 jcamins True. 17:51 drojf yes, i would not see a file to download otherwise i guess? 17:50 jcamins drojf: did you configure backupdir in your koha-conf.xml? 17:49 drojf :( 17:49 cait drojf: that looks like you are a villain 17:49 drojf heh 17:49 cait fast wolf 17:49 cait oh 17:48 drojf oh. yes there is. [Mon Jul 30 19:39:05 2012] [error] [client 192.168.1.11] [Mon Jul 30 19:39:05 2012] export.pl: A suspicious attempt was made to download the db at 'backupd.sql.gz' by someone at 192.168.1.11, referer: http://192.168.1.238:8080/cgi-bin/koha/tools/export.pl 17:46 jcamins There should be a message in the log if there was any sort of problem. 17:45 jcamins I meant for 8437. 17:45 drojf heh. since it must have worked for others (the non plack version) i doubt that 17:44 jcamins drojf: the patch doesn't work? :P 17:44 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8437 major, P2, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Plack and database backup 17:44 drojf jcamins: when i use export database, i get a file with filesize 0. any idea why that may be the case? i can confirm that bug 8437 makes me see the file with plack, but it's 0 both with and without plack 17:43 jcamins You're welcome. 17:43 Shane-s got it now thanks! 17:42 Shane-s the angle made it black 17:42 Shane-s oh I couldn't tell it was a link....lcd issue 17:41 jcamins Click on the link to view the batch. 17:41 jcamins It's always been there. 17:41 jcamins Don't click that. 17:41 Shane-s I just have a "clean" button I don't remebering that from 3.6 17:40 jcamins ^^ if you look at the chapter on tools, there should be screenshots 17:40 wahanui i think documentation is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/ 17:40 jcamins documentation? 17:40 jcamins Then you view the batch you staged, and import it. 17:40 jcamins Then you click "Manage staged MARC records" on the Tools screen. 17:40 jcamins Yes, so you go through the process. 17:40 Shane-s with the Stage MARC for Import using the browse button 17:39 jcamins Shane-s: how did you import your records? 17:39 Shane-s 3.8 if it matters 17:39 Shane-s Manage staged MARC records ? All I see other then the import one 17:37 jcamins Right by "Stage MARC for import," which you used to import the records. 17:37 jcamins Tools->Manage MARC import. 17:36 Shane-s tree for that? 17:35 jcamins Go to "manage MARC import" and choose "import." 17:33 Shane-s okay so my import put them in the reservoir... not sure how I make them active 17:30 tcohen maybe my patch will have to wait, so you dontneed to wait fr it 17:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8519 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Make koha-index-daemon run on startup 17:29 tcohen mtompset: Bug 8519 17:28 * mveron is back from dinner. .. 17:11 Shane-s jcamins: thanks, I will check it out after my pop-tart and soda :) 17:10 Shane-s I made it ever minute on that thing 17:10 Shane-s I swore it was forever on my 3.6 test system 17:10 Shane-s See if they are in there 17:10 Shane-s oh really...I'll go eat lunch 17:10 jcamins 10 minutes by default. 17:09 Shane-s i thought it was longer then that by default through, I remember waiting a long time for my imported books to appear before I modified that. 17:09 Shane-s oh yeah 5 works 17:08 Shane-s we maybe add 5-10 book and I want there to appear ASAP 17:08 jcamins Most places do five minutes or so. 17:08 jcamins Shane-s: why every hour? 17:08 jcamins crontab -e 17:08 Shane-s okay just remembered, but forgot how/where, I changed the Zebra Index delay. Where/how do I do that again? I think it was like 4 hours, I want it to be every hour 17:04 * mtompset waves bye. 17:03 mtompset But that's not a now problem. 17:03 mtompset Unfortunately, that means I need to redo the patch I just submitted. ARG! 17:02 mtompset It works! It works! Woo hoo! 17:02 * mtompset jumps with joy. 17:00 * cait needs dinner and icecream 17:00 drojf mveron: what's in the dishwasher tonight? :) 16:59 * drojf needs icecream 16:58 * SJeffery ...needs breakfast 16:58 * oleonard ...needs lunch 16:58 * mveron ...needs dinner 16:57 mveron drojf ++ 16:57 drojf mveron++ 16:56 mtompset the missing file should become empty. :) 16:56 mtompset going to do a test run of check_deps.sh 16:56 jcamins mtompset: yep. 16:55 mtompset Woo hoo! jcamins we have index! 16:49 jcamins SJeffery: it does seem to be, doesn't it? 16:49 SJeffery Hmm, weird, how did I miss that? Must be a Monday. 16:48 jcamins At least in the OPAC. 16:48 mtompset Since tcohen said he was thinking of tweaking install instructions, so I wanted to make sure he could use the latest version I had. 16:47 mtompset Submitted a 3.8.X and master patch. 16:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8478 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, NEW , Update Ubuntu related files 16:47 mtompset bug 8478 16:46 mtompset Nope... I just wanted to get my patch up for a bug. 16:46 jcamins SJeffery: 780 and 785 are already displayed. 16:46 drojf sleep kohaing? 16:46 drojf mtompset: having nightmares? 16:46 mtompset tcohen: you there? 16:45 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @kohails: "#kohails Upcoming Releases Ordered http://t.co/FNNB2aRz" 16:44 SJeffery Are there any plans to make the 78x fields a standard display field? I have not found anything in the tracker. 16:42 wizzyrea glad it's going ok 16:41 wizzyrea and you answered my question :) 16:41 wizzyrea oh yea i was going to ask how it was going today oleonard 16:35 oleonard Ha, the CSS example in my patch didn't come through because it was prefexed with # 16:34 oleonard Patch sent. 16:34 tcohen oleonard, r u working on that? 16:30 tcohen I find it a bit resource-consuming than our old 3.0.x setup 16:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8522 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Markup errors cause problems with customized CSS 16:29 oleonard The only glitch we've found so far has been Bug 8522 16:28 tcohen that's great oleonard 16:28 oleonard We're live on 3.8.3 as of today 16:28 cait and hi all :) 16:28 oleonard Nice work tcohen 16:27 tcohen :-D 16:27 tcohen wiiiiiiiiii 16:27 cait congrats :) 16:27 * tcohen has now 38 koha setups upgraded to 3.8 @ Universidad Nacional de Córdoba 16:22 jcamins Yay! 16:21 eythian to be honest, so will I, it'll mean I can remove that change to list-deps to handle the non-debian stuff 16:21 jcamins And it'll help when I build 3.6.8. 16:21 huginn eythian: The operation succeeded. 16:21 eythian @later tell mtompset apt-file will possibly work now 16:21 jcamins mtompset will be happy. 16:21 jcamins eythian++ 16:21 eythian anyway, uploaded 16:20 eythian possibly :) 16:20 jcamins You may have it running on a faster system than I do. 16:20 eythian only takes a few seconds, too 16:19 eythian ah, that does it. 16:18 jcamins Wait, sorry: reprepro -b /home/jcamins/repos/apt/koha export 16:18 jcamins eythian: odd. That's how I did it. 16:18 eythian can't really look into it right now though, have some time-sensitive stuff to get done 16:17 eythian jcamins: yep, definitely doesn't work 16:14 Morthland Thanks! 16:14 Morthland Allright. 16:13 jcamins Morthland: that was fixed in 3.8.3. 16:12 Morthland I get this error on the tag cloud: C4::Output version 3.02 required--this is only version 3.08.01.002 at /usr/share/koha/opac/cgi-bin/opac/opac-tags.pl line 41. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/koha/opac/cgi-bin/opac/opac-tags.pl line 41. 16:09 Morthland Oh. Thanks. 16:09 jcamins Morthland: it only supports UNIMARC, which you are not using, and Dewey, which you are also not using. 16:08 Morthland for example 16:08 Morthland but by the end of the list, it searches : Dewey-classification: BS2 16:08 Morthland and it is building a list by LCC 16:08 Morthland Our library is cataloged LCC 16:07 Morthland That is not my issue. 16:07 jcamins That is UNIMARC only. 16:07 jcamins Yes. 16:07 Morthland I mean to refer to the browser associated with the opacbrowser system preference. 16:06 jcamins eythian: really? That took a while on mine, and generated the indexes. 16:06 jcamins Morthland: the browser is UNIMARC-only. 16:05 eythian jcamins: that returns immediately 16:05 Morthland Hey, I'm trying to figure out how to configure the authorities browser 16:04 jcamins reprepro -b /home/jcamins/repos/apt/koha rerunnotifiers 16:03 eythian yeah 16:03 jcamins eythian: you use reprepro, right? 16:03 eythian jcamins: can't find a way to make the contents regenerate, it might only take effect as new packages get added. 15:58 oleonard Oh, khall just signed off 15:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8391 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Signed Off , Cannot view reading record through staff client 15:58 oleonard Are the patches on Bug 8391 complementary or competitive? 15:56 Joubu good bye ++ 15:53 mtompset I'll get it right eventually. :) 15:52 mtompset #koha 15:52 mtompset #kohas 15:52 mtompset Good night, $koha./ 15:52 mtompset Going to bed... late again. :( At least it isn't past midnight, yet. 15:50 jcamins eythian: yeah, that was my conclusion. 15:50 eythian jcamins: seems sane, aside from making things a bit slower, but that's not a big deal. 15:50 mtompset My beautiful baby script can run nicely and list things to include for ubuntu related files, and detect what should be added to the repo too. :) 15:49 mtompset impact? 15:47 jcamins Ah. 15:47 eythian No, it has instructions, I'm just curious about what the impact would be: I'm not sure about the options that that file can take, so looking that up. 15:45 jcamins Or did I say "ask me for instructions"? :) 15:45 jcamins Didn't it have instructions? 15:45 eythian just looking into it now 15:45 eythian jcamins: I did 15:45 jcamins eythian: did you get my @later from huginn? 15:45 jcamins eythian: it's easy. 15:43 eythian heh 15:43 eythian well, rather, I have no idea how I'd do that.. 15:43 mtompset I think we are supposed to ask about the hamsters. ;) 15:43 eythian mtompset: I have no idea how that would even work, to be honest :) 15:42 mtompset Greetings, eythian. I'll try not to mention how much I'd like index files so apt-file can work for debian.koha-community.org ;) 15:42 * oleonard whistles innocently 15:31 Shane-s can I have mutliple line of =952 \\ with different subfields per line? 15:30 Shane-s that worked 15:29 Shane-s has an indicator box, I guess I add \\ ill find out :P 15:29 jcamins As I said, I use neither MarcEdit nor Windows. 15:28 jcamins I have no idea, sorry. 15:28 Shane-s okay...how to append that...as marc edit just swap $h from 852 to 952 $o, but it put it in like =952 $o001.9ASI 15:27 jcamins They are indicators. 15:27 jcamins Yes. 15:27 Shane-s so the \\ is needed? 15:27 jcamins Those are indicators. 15:26 jcamins Yes. 15:26 Shane-s question in MarcEdit some field begin with \\ others don't anyone know if that matters for MARC? 15:26 oleonard [off] I saw wahanui and huginn smoking behind the equipment shed after school yesterday! 15:24 jcamins Heh. 15:23 oleonard ..always makes it seem like tweetbot` is gossiping 15:23 oleonard The "[off] 15:23 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @kohails: "#kohails Ordering from a Staged File in Koha 3.4 http://t.co/cDQFTnPu" 15:21 mtompset okay thanks for the pointer at least. 15:20 jcamins I don't know exactly how to use it, but it has something to do with apt-cache policy. 15:20 jcamins apt-cache policy 15:19 mtompset How do I tell what I have installed, and where it is from? 15:16 jcamins That too. 15:15 mtompset Not to mention your apt isn't in the ubuntu installation instructions. :P 15:15 jcamins Oh, yes, that would be good, because I took my apt repo down temporarily. 15:15 mtompset apt-file indexes would have been nice. :) 15:14 mtompset I was just trying to wean my machines dependency on your repo to k-c.orgs :) 15:13 jcamins I left a message for eythian. 15:13 jcamins mtompset: I have no control over those repos. 15:13 mtompset jcamins: Just to point out the apt-file index isn't there for the k-c.org repos yet. ;) 15:12 jcamins Shane-s: I use neither, so I can't really advise. 15:11 Shane-s on windows 15:11 mgeist jcamins just be sure not to point it at airplanes 15:11 Shane-s jcamins: Thanks...struggling with it in MarcEdit 15:11 jcamins mgeist: I probably should get one of those and use it to tire out Myshkin. 15:08 jcamins drojf: so it would seem. 15:08 drojf cats can be bored? 15:08 mgeist laser point imo! 15:07 jcamins And he's been particularly rambunctious of late. Not only has he been bored for the last two weeks, Shari's away this weekend, and he is not amused. 15:06 wizzyrea ^^ myshkin is a cat genius. 15:06 jcamins mgeist: I have a remarkably smart cat. 15:04 mgeist Hrm, that does look like something a cat would type. 15:03 * wizzyrea giggles at jcamins, waves hi to myshkin 14:57 jcamins ;) 14:57 jcamins Shane-s: that was a response to you, not the cat. 14:54 jcamins s/^T\(.*)$/\1/ 14:54 Shane-s maybe just a find and replace on $pT would be better 14:54 Shane-s anyone good with regex that marcedit might use, I want to get subfield $p and if it begins with a "T" remove that. I am thinking ^T*, but I don't know how to make it spit back out just the rest less the T 14:52 mtompset I so hate "triggers for mandb". It's so slow! 14:41 jcamins Shane-s: a useful saying in this situation: "the perfect is the enemy of the good." 14:39 Shane-s thanks, I am trying to get this as perfect as I can, but it was just me testing my non-production system. This will all be going into the production system, and I had missed call number, and I need to modify the barcode field as follet pre-prends a T to many barcodes. I didn't find other issues, but who knows come school opening when my Librarian is in 14:37 gmcharlt right; when it comes time to reload the records, -d would clear out the previous bib/item record set 14:37 jcamins Shane-s: you can always do a 'DELETE FROM biblio' but there is no situation I can think of in which that would be anything other than a bad idea. 14:36 Shane-s gmcharlt: yes, but say after it has imported the records and we are testing the data imports and I find I missed or improperly located a record, so the system has bad data 14:34 gmcharlt Shane-s: bibliographic and item records? if so, one option is to pass the -d switch to bulkmarcimport.pl, which will make it delete all bibs and items prior to performing the record load 14:32 wizzyrea at 9:30 oy. 14:32 * wizzyrea waves sleepily 14:32 Shane-s okay before I go importing 7655 records, lets say I find I missed a few fields is there a quick and easy way to drop the records in Koha or the MySQL DB? 14:02 mtompset But I just discovered some more tweaks I need to make to the documentation. ARG! 14:01 mtompset I want to try to get some patches up before going to bed close to on time. 14:01 mtompset shortly in this case means later this week. :) 14:01 mtompset and --full 14:00 mtompset ^you^your^ (second one) 14:00 mtompset Now you can have you --noupdate. 14:00 jcamins Take your time. I probably won't be doing anything with it today. 14:00 mtompset jcamins... I'll email you the latest version of check_deps.sh shortly. 13:54 talljoy 952$o is the call number for the item record. 13:53 talljoy Shane-s: yes it is 13:50 Shane-s questions 952$o has no descriptions if it is arbitrary (user can fill it in) or system generated. I am using MarcEdit and I have an 852$h from follet that is a call number is 952$o the right field to use? 13:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8519 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Make koha-index-daemon run on startup 13:50 tcohen bug 8519 13:39 Joubu jcamins: ok, thank you for the confirmation :) 13:38 jcamins Joubu: I'd probably use "closed" here, too. 13:37 Joubu Could someone (a native english speaker by preference ) tell me how I should name a new boolean field in subscription for a closed/terminated/ended subscription ? Currently I choose "closed", but I don't know if it is the most adapted term. 13:35 jcamins drojf: hehe. No, but that does seem to be the patch equilibrium. 13:31 drojf is that number of 115 needed signoffs hardcoded? sometimes it feels that way. 13:25 drojf and cheat your way to the top ;) 13:25 drojf hmm if the count goes by that i guess you can change the status of a bug a few times to get more points 13:24 drojf lol 13:24 mveron You can get my next one, I will give you a hint... 13:23 drojf :D 13:23 drojf yeah right! 13:23 mveron Sorry, drojf, I did not mean it! 13:23 drojf heh mveron got my point for the dashboard because he changed it to signed off :P 13:23 mveron ^^^^^^ 13:22 kf *hint hint* 13:22 kf testing is a great way to learn more about Koha's features 13:22 kf yep 13:22 drojf thanks to mveron's bug i now know the koha self checkout ;) 13:21 mtompset marcelr++ 13:20 kf and for a cool new domain name ;) 13:19 kf mtompset: increasing karma - in this case for signing off a patch :) 13:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8518 minor, P5 - low, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , Self checkout does not display debt amount if syspref AllowFineOverride is set to allow 13:19 mveron mtompset: Bug 8518 13:18 huginn oleonard: Karma for "drojf" has been increased 19 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 18. 13:18 oleonard @karma drojf 13:18 mtompset What's the +'s for? 13:17 kf drojf++ :) 13:17 drojf :) 13:17 mveron drojf ++ 13:14 * McCloud[A] is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 30 minutes 13:10 mtompset Oh my! lots more missing in master. 13:09 kf Hello :) 13:08 mtj heya nicole : 13:08 nengard talk to you all later!! :) 13:07 * mtj waves to peepz in PA 13:07 nengard Quiet in here 13:06 mtompset Greetings, folks in PA! :) 13:06 oleonard Hi PA! 13:06 nengard say Hello! 13:06 nengard I'm training a new Koha library in PA 13:06 nengard Good morning #koha 13:04 mtompset And there are thirteen libraries not listed in the ubuntu.packages for 3.8.x 13:03 mtompset So, using the debian.k-c.org repo is necessary. 13:03 mtompset And ubuntu 12.04 does not have Template::Plugin::HtmlToText 13:01 mtompset C4::Images, tools/picture-upload.pl, tools/upload-cover-image.pl 12:57 kf wonder for what that is used 12:57 kf hm 12:56 mtompset It would seem that I found one library that wasn't in the ubuntu.packages for 3.6.x -- libgd-gd2-perl 12:49 drojf hi mveron 12:49 mveron hi drojf 12:45 drojf hi kf 12:45 kf hi drojf 12:37 McCloud Yep, that worked! 12:33 tcohen mtompset++ 12:32 drojf McCloud: not sure why that is but apt-get dist-upgrade will probably work 12:31 mtompset Just some of the things I hope to get up to bugzilla in the next couple days. 12:31 mtompset Oh, and I did get a -b -r version of koha_perl_deps.pl done too... 12:29 McCloud Anyone know why apt-get upgrade would "keep koha-common back" when ran? 12:28 mtompset I can run the script without having to do git commands in between. :) 12:28 mtompset I finally have a 3.6.x, 3.8.x, and a master git 12:27 tcohen :-D 12:27 mtompset I'm about to run the script I wrote for 3.8.x :) 12:27 tcohen but will beback soon! 12:27 tcohen I need to finish our -> 3.8 upgrade right now 12:27 mtompset Which bug? 12:26 tcohen but I'll let my new bug will talk for itself 12:26 * mtompset runs away. :) 12:26 tcohen i was thinking of talking to you 12:26 tcohen hi mtompset 12:26 mtompset Greetings, tcohen 12:17 mtompset I was going to check my changes against my three new git directories. :) 12:17 mtompset jcamins_away: Are you still away? I have updated check_deps.sh 12:14 * mtompset is happy to have 3 different git clones: 3.6.x, 3.8.x, and master. YAY! 11:58 mveron hi asaurat 11:56 asaurat hi! 11:56 mveron Hi mtompset 11:56 mtompset Greetings asaurat laurence 11:56 mtompset Greetings, mveron 11:35 mveron Hi everybody 11:35 * mveron is back from lunch 11:27 jwagner hi mtompset 11:25 mtompset Greetings, jwagner 11:04 mtompset scrolling back to see what mtj said. 11:03 mtompset On a positive note, I cloned master three times. Now to set one to 3.6.x and the other to 3.8.x 11:01 mtompset Thanks. 10:56 * kf sends cookies 10:56 mtompset [off] I got sucked back into my backup project. I didn't get to work on Koha. :( 10:55 mtompset Greetings, kf magnuse Joubu 10:50 magnuse hiya kf 10:47 kf hi magnuse :) 10:44 * magnuse waves 10:41 kf something like that 10:41 kf (saving money) 10:41 kf hm. serial has a new name, serial subscription ended (serial died), subscription was ended by the library 10:40 kf perhaps we could have even more status? we migrated a library and they had differentiated between 10:40 kf and I Like the idea :) 10:40 Joubu kf: ok thanks :) 10:38 kf I think America is not awake yet maybe 10:38 kf Joubu: perhaps try in half an hour or so? 10:37 kf hm 10:25 Joubu Someone could say me how can I call a subscription closed ? terminated ? ended ? I want to add a new boolean field subscription.closed. But I don't know if it is the most adapted term 10:23 Joubu Hi #koha 09:45 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @ptoothfish: "My nerdling just submitted a unit test to #KohaILS #mondaynightmayhem" 09:33 bartsimpson rangi: thanks for all the help 09:33 bartsimpson rangi: yea i've gtg to, ill talk to you later :) 09:29 rangi bartsimpson: gonna crash out soon, but drop me an email if you are still stuck and ill try to help out 09:20 mveron hi #koha 09:16 pastebot "rangi" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "some mock data" (6 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/66 09:15 kf *sniff* 09:14 kf oh 09:13 mtj kf, aaah - that feature is the 'enterprise' edition of tweetbot 09:10 kf it refuses my cookies 09:10 mtj whats the bug? 09:08 kf mtj: your bot has a bug :( 09:08 kf tweetbot botsnack cookies 09:08 rangi export KOHA_CONF=/etc/koha/sites/yoursitename/koha-conf.xml 09:07 kf !tweetbot botsnack cookie? 09:07 rangi bartsimpson: you can do this 09:07 * mtj thought mbalmer was blocking his stupid tweetbot... 09:05 bartsimpson rangi: nah I'm still confused about that, semi-relatedly im getting this error "unable to locate Koha configuration file koha-conf.xml at C4/Context.pm line 360" when i perl the matcher thing 09:05 m23 ok, thanks 09:04 kf m23: yes you can, but a bit better is the translate mailing list :) 09:03 m23 Hello, can i report problem with http://translate.koha-community.org here? 09:02 bartsimpson ummm 08:52 rangi http://schema.koha-community.org/tables/marc_matchers.html <-- does that help ? 08:51 rangi lemme look 08:51 bartsimpson rangi: Hey, Im unsure of where to get a data table for the Matcher.t file... Any suggestions? 08:40 rangi yep that patch looks good :) 08:40 rangi excellent :) 08:37 bartsimpson rangi: cool i'm fairly certain that worked ;) :) I'm going to try start some work on the Matcher.t file you suggested on thursday 08:31 mtompset That's why I like to personally add '-o ~' on the end, so I know the patch file is always in my home directory. 08:30 wahanui right that is, like, what I was thinking :D 08:30 bartsimpson oh right that 08:29 rangi its should make one on the dir you are in it will be 0001-somethingsomething.patch 08:29 rangi when you do the git format-patch 08:28 rangi ahh 08:28 bartsimpson rangi: right, yeah i did do that git commiting, but I'm not sure where to find that file to upload? sorry if that seems silly :) 08:27 rangi bartsimpson: ahh nope, you have to do the git commit stuff, and git format-patch from earlier 08:27 kf mbalmer: I don't think so, once it's public, it's public 08:26 bartsimpson rangi: so do i just upload the Itemtype.t file itself from the /t directory? 08:21 mbalmer but if you think of it, it is indeed a bit dubious to post in a public channel what has been posted in a different public channel 08:21 mbalmer and short memory, too 08:20 mbalmer hehe, I obviously changed my mind. 08:20 rangi short memory :) 08:20 rangi mbalmer: http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/2012-07-11#i_1019931 08:18 rangi and click add attachment and upload the file 08:18 huginn 04Bug 5327: major, P3, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , Unit tests required for all C4 modules 08:18 rangi bartsimpson: ahh now you need to go to http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5327 08:17 mbalmer didn't know we track tweets in this channel 08:17 mbalmer funny, that works, indeed ;) 08:17 tweetbot` ..#arcapos" 08:17 tweetbot` .. 08:17 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @arcapos: "arcapos supports #kohails through it's SIP2 client. Integrate your library system with a point of sale solution 08:16 bartsimpson rangi: I've gone through the steps to submit you wrote previously ^ but am wondering what I need to do now 08:13 mbalmer let's see... 08:10 mtompset oh right... my brain didn't parse koha ils... I was thinking ko hails. 08:09 kf for twittter - ils is integrated library system 08:09 kf our official tag 08:09 kf yes 08:09 mtompset kohails? 08:08 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @ranginui: "it's monday night, im watching the olympics and helping a high school student extend the #kohails test suite, life is good" 08:06 rangi ahh yep 08:05 bartsimpson oh I was already in the t layer :) so the t/ at the start was wrong, thanks 08:05 bartsimpson one sec 08:04 bartsimpson hmmm 08:03 rangi or prove t/ItemType.t 08:03 rangi perl t/ItemType.t 08:03 bartsimpson rangi: Hello, whats the code to run a unit test? eg I'm currently trying to run Itemtype.t 07:42 rangi excellent :) 07:41 bartsimpson oh thanks kf :) and allright i'll maybe put a add a few lines of test first then try to commit it 07:40 rangi git format-patch origin/master 07:40 rangi Then 07:40 rangi git commit 07:40 rangi git add t/ItemType.t 07:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5327 major, P3, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , Unit tests required for all C4 modules 07:39 rangi to bug 5327 07:39 rangi i meant to say, if you can remember how to do a commit and then format-patch you can attach the tests you did on thursday 07:39 kf hi bartsimpson :) you don't need an @ - just say rangi: 07:38 rangi yay! thats cool bartsimpson 07:37 huginn bartsimpson: downloading the Perl source 07:37 bartsimpson @rangi hello, it's Bart, I'm just about to start trying some unit testing so i'll message you if i need help :) 07:26 mtompset Someone is counting down. :) 07:23 kf and not pushing at all during this time? 07:22 kf ah ok 07:22 paul_p 3 weeks 07:22 paul_p kf = fortunately, most if not all our customers are on vacation already, so lot of things to do, but not the usual one 07:22 kf how many weeks will you be gone? 07:22 kf lots to do I bet 07:21 kf :) 07:21 paul_p last week before holidays for me ;-) 07:21 paul_p good morning #koha & kf 07:21 kf morning #koha, morning paul_p 07:20 ala_3v0 thanks all... night... #koha-irc 07:13 mtompset These instructions will guide you to do a tarball install. 07:13 mtompset http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_Ubuntu 07:12 mtompset I have not tried it, but these instructions should work under Ubuntu as well. 07:12 mtompset That was the URL I was thinking about. 07:12 mtompset http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.8_on_Debian_Squeeze 07:11 wahanui rumour has it packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian 07:11 mtompset packages? 07:11 mtompset that is packages. 07:11 ala_3v0 what is koha-common then? 07:10 wahanui If you're developing, you should use git. If you're not developing on a deb-based system, you should use packages. If you're not developing on a different flavour of Linux, you should use the tarball. 07:10 mtompset which install to use? 07:10 * mtompset nods. 07:09 mtj ... and people here on #koha-irc wont be able to help you much, if you have problems with your live-cd 07:09 dcook_away 'night #koha 07:08 mtompset That much is true: not officially supported. 07:08 ala_3v0 I have downloaded a copy, not sure where from 07:07 mtj live-cds many work, or not.... use them at your own risk 07:07 mtj ala_3v0: no koha live-cds are officially supported, yet 07:06 ala_3v0 check linux halwa 07:05 mtompset url, please. 07:05 mtompset I did not know this. 07:05 mtompset Really? Cool. 07:05 ala_3v0 There is a Koha 3.8 live on ubuntu 07:04 mtompset That version of koha may be out of date. 07:04 mtompset what koha live cd for ubuntu? 07:04 mtompset really, mtj? 07:03 ala_3v0 when books have been inputed into koha on the cataloging section, how long does it take to be able to be searched and found in OPAC? 07:00 mtj mtompset: they 'should be' yes, but my experience has been otherwise 06:58 ala_3v0 Is there any koha live cd on debian squeeze around as I can only find koha live cd on ubuntu 06:55 mtompset especially if ala_3v0 only dumped the koha database (whatever it is called) 06:54 mtompset a mysqldump should be generic enough to transfer. 06:54 mtj depends.... different mysql versions between systems - could be a problem... 06:53 ala_3v0 yes from mysqldump 06:53 mtompset from a mysqldump that is. 06:53 mtompset I don't see why not. 06:52 mtj ala_3v0: if you are lucky, yes 06:48 ala_3v0 If I backup or dump a koha sql from a debian and restore it on ubuntu, can the koha system be fully functional? 06:46 ala_3v0 Hi, mbalmer. 06:43 mbalmer morning, kohaistas! 06:41 mtj ala_3v0: you should have asked your question here *before* un-installing the debian ;) 06:39 ala_3v0 I've un-installed the debian but thanks anyway 06:37 mtj try http://localhost:8080 first... 06:36 ala_3v0 mtj: I have a message on browser that states system maintenance when launching http://localhost:80 06:36 mtj etc... 06:36 mtj http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.8_on_Debian_Squeeze 06:35 mtj http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Category:Installation 06:34 mtj or in your koha directory -> http://git.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=INSTALL.debian 06:34 ala_3v0 mtj - thanks 06:32 mtj ala_3v0: always look on the koha wiki, for the latest install information 06:30 ala_3v0 I've followed an online tutorial but have difficulties at the end when launching browser 06:30 wahanui salut, julian_m 06:30 julian_m hello 06:28 ala_3v0 can anyone help on the installation of koha on debian squeeze 06:25 dcook_away :D 06:24 cait :) git++ 06:23 dcook_away After a great introduction to git from rangi and jcamins, I found the best way to learn about git was to experiment and test out different scenarios. As a result, I'm certainly a convert to developing in git. 06:22 dcook_away git cherry-pick can also be used with tags, if you find that to be a handy way of identifying a commit 06:22 mtompset Greetings, mbalmer 06:08 cait morning 06:06 cait but was not sure it's the right advice :) 06:06 mtj cherry-pick a commit(s) from another branch 06:06 cait yes, I use that too 06:06 mtj git cherry-pick , is a nice way to do that too (what i use) 06:00 mtompset if you've only added files. 05:59 mtompset It's an easy way to copy files between branches. 05:59 cait mtompset: I never merge :P 05:59 * mtompset is reading up on git merge. 05:59 cait mtj: if it's a critical bug - we need the patch even more :) 05:46 mtompset Okay. 05:45 mtj you can google all that stuff... 05:45 mtj $ git am -s ./0001-Bug-6466-hung-socket-read-causes-SIP-tests-to-fail.patch 05:45 mtompset So, since I think I got the general gist of that... back to my next question: how to apply a git patch? 05:44 mtompset But since 3.6.7 came out, I doubt we'll have anything of significance once we upgrade. 05:42 mtompset Yes, I do too, but the time difference between the two is very small. 05:42 * mtompset laughs. 05:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1 major, P2, ---, chris, CLOSED FIXED, Missing uploadedmarc table definition 05:40 mtj depends, if its a critical production bug - always fix the bug 1st, submit a fix to kc.org later... 05:39 mtompset The bugs I fix aren't emergencies. 05:39 mtj why? , its quicker, less short-term effort, and its an emergency 05:39 mtompset Always attempt to bug report it and provide a patch to k-c.org 05:38 mtompset That's not long term efficient for me. 05:38 mtompset Why would I be only think of myself in the short term? 05:37 mtj depends.. do you want to submit the bug to kc.org - or go for a quick-fix? 05:37 mtompset If it doesn't apply nicely, make the necessary tweaks... test it... generate version'd patch. 05:37 mtompset If it applies, great... test it... everyone should be happy. 05:36 mtompset Take the patch and attempt to apply it to another version. 05:36 mtompset Make the patch in the version you found the error in. 05:36 mtompset I'll re-iterate what you said in my words, and hopefully they are the same. 05:35 mtj mtompset: does that logic make sense to you? 05:34 mtompset next question in my git education... how to apply a patch? 05:34 mtj and , if the patch was written against master, then apply/test it to master 1st 05:33 mtj (and after i apply the patch - fix the conflicts, of course) 05:33 mtj if it does, apply the patch to my 3.6 koha 05:32 mtj test that the patch works 05:32 mtj id apply the patch to my 3.8 koha 05:32 mtj thats a nice tricky situation :) 05:30 mtompset Okay, so mtj, how would you do a patch on 3.6.X that doesn't apply properly to 3.8.X, but the bug still exists in 3.8.X? 05:28 mtompset No sense submitting a busted patch. :) 05:27 mtompset that I want to test too. 05:27 cait I think that would perhaps work a bit better than manually moving patches around. or you could have a central repo you push your changes to 05:27 mtompset the scenario is a problematic patch across versions. 05:26 cait mtompset: why notmake a patch file? 05:26 mtj ok, good luck, then.... 05:26 mtompset don't trust them. :P 05:25 mtj hmm, thats precisely what an scm is designed for 05:23 mtompset do a diff between repo directories, and make the changes myself. 05:23 mtj ... so whats your point? 05:23 mtj sure, but you are still going to have exactly the same problem applying your problematic patch using many repos 05:21 mtompset Sometimes things get added between versions which makes a patch not applicable across branches. 05:21 mtompset depends on the state of the surrounding code between versions. 05:20 mtj testing a fix on many Koha branches, is easier on a single repo 05:18 mtj mtompset: there's nothing stopping you from 'running' a fix, using a single repo? 05:17 mtj yes, absolutely 05:15 cait I think so 05:15 cait yes 05:14 mtompset can you rename the directory the git repo is in without breaking git? 05:03 mtompset So multi-repos makes more sense. 05:03 mtompset Yes, but if you make a fix, you should at least try to run it. 04:58 mtj ... if you want to compare (giff-diff) 2 branches, you want to use *1* repo, not 2 repos 04:57 * cait nods 04:57 mtj not compare, as in git-diff 04:56 mtj 'compare' here, means compare the run-time behavior of 2 systems 04:53 mtompset And that solves my forgetfulness problem too. :) 04:53 mtj so, you would need 2 repos - for that debugging situation 04:53 mtj (you cant have a repo set to 2 different commits at the same time) 04:52 mtj of course , if you need a koha 3.8 and a koha3.6 to *compare* , you need 2 repos... 04:52 mtj well, i guess.... ? i never lose track of well-named branches 04:51 mtompset If you have three repos for the three versions, there's no confusion. 04:51 mtompset Yes, but when you lose track of branches, it becomes a pain. 04:50 cait if you need a specific version 04:50 cait git branch -b yourname v03.06.03 or something 04:50 cait you can checkout the tag too 04:50 mtj sure, thats exactly what i have too :) 04:49 mtompset Because I'd like to have 3 clones: master, 3.8.x, and 3.6.x, so I don't have to figure out more git commands when working on things that need fixing in all three, but don't necessarily need the same fixes. 04:48 mtj i do this often, myself... 04:47 wahanui mtj: that doesn't look right 04:47 mtj change to branch 3.6.x, then 'git reset --hard v3.6.6' 04:46 mtj mtompset: clone master, then make a new branch 3.6.x 04:43 mtompset I don't want to clone master, I want to clone 3.6.x 04:43 * mtompset frowns, "I don't understand git." 04:30 mtompset can't hurt to triple check. But that's good to know. 04:29 mtj rangi: np, i got it sorted... :) 04:29 cait oh 04:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7368 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED , General staff client typo omnibus 04:28 mtompset related to bug 7368 04:27 mtompset I'll finally get to deal with that email message that I left unread in my koha lists folder. 04:26 mtompset I think I dealt with my backup scripts task well enough so far. :) 04:26 cait hm I should do taht too 04:26 mtompset I'm finally going to get back to looking at koha bugs today. 04:26 mtompset Greetings, cait 04:26 cait hi mtompset 04:25 mtompset Greetings, #koha 04:17 cait morning mtj :) 04:17 mtj morning cait 04:15 cait good morning #koha 03:53 tcohen 1am here 03:53 tcohen hi #koha 03:50 mtj i think i remember you showed me one, some time ago....? 03:49 mtj is there are json output of -> http://bugs.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/bug_counts.pl ? 03:49 mtj rangi: about? 01:58 dcook Perfect. Thanks for the info. 01:55 jcamins It doesn't. 01:55 dcook So how does a dev install use blib...? The files in there are much more recent than the ones I have checked out and which run when I go to the dev site 01:51 jcamins No. 01:51 dcook Does updatedatabase re-run make? :S 01:51 dcook That's my thought too, but I ran make the first time when 3.8.0 first came out 01:51 jcamins dcook: because you didn't rerun make. 01:50 dcook Why would the files currently in there be 3.9 though? 01:49 dcook Fair enough :p 01:48 rangi don't commit the blib dir :) 01:48 dcook Hmm 01:48 rangi then make install copies them 01:48 rangi it makes all the files and puts them in blib 01:48 rangi when you run make 01:48 rangi (except packages of course) 01:47 rangi its used by any install 01:47 dcook But the files look like they're quite up to date, while my current branch is 3.8.0 O_o 01:47 dcook I've been looking a bit more at the "blib" directory in my local git, and I'm wondering a bit about its purpose and the status of the files it contains. I figured it was used so that I could Koha as a dev install 01:44 rangi yeah not bad at all 01:43 dcook Have a good weekend? 01:42 rangi hey dcook 01:40 dcook allo #koha