Time  Nick         Message
20:30 libsysguy    Adv_search I haven't seen that but you might try verifying that zebra is running and indexed correctly
20:09 Adv_search   Hello all, I have recently upgraded to 3.6. I cannot get any results when doing an advanced search by 'location'. Anyone seen this?
19:54 oleonard     I guess if you want to enforce the limit you have to make sure the field is populated.
19:52 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8392 minor, P5 - low, ---, ruth, Needs Signoff , Memberentry is not enforcing birthdate restrictions
19:52 * oleonard   wonders why BorrowerMandatoryFields even comes into play with Bug 8392
19:36 cait1        hi #koha
19:14 cait-m__     hi
19:03 huginn       jcamins: The operation succeeded.
19:03 jcamins      @later tell kyleh I lost your signoff on bug 5079 when I changed the author- for some reason it listed Ian instead of Elliott.
18:56 jcamins      (no rush; I just edited 00-load.t to not bail out so that tests function on master, so I'm able to keep going with what I'm working on:)
18:55 jcamins      clrh: when you get a chance, it would be really useful if you updated the instructions for setting up solr on the wiki. Particularly the part on dependencies, which I guess have changed.
18:44 wizzyrea     ah right, but the rest.
18:43 jcamins      wizzyrea: libsysguy logged out earlier because he is at class.
18:43 wizzyrea     surprised that oleonard got d/c too, and i didn't. how weird.
18:42 wizzyrea     surprised that libsysguy got it and I didn't. Must not be geographic
18:41 wizzyrea     wow.
18:38 oleonard     Whoa.
18:17 jcamins      oleonard++
18:03 jcamins      martian523: you will need to provide details about why slef's suggestions didn't work.
18:03 martian523   Hi, I have a problem with transferring items from reservoir to actual catalog
17:59 slef         martian523: either manage staged marc records, or Add new MARC record and use the z39.50 search, but I'm not in a place where I can tell you exactly right now (phone internet only)
17:53 slef         martian523: either manage staged marc records, or Add new MARC record and use the z39.50 search, but I'm not in a place where I can tell you exactly right now (phone internet only)
17:45 martian523   how do i do that?
17:45 martian523   i'm trying to get items from reservoir into the actual database
17:45 martian523   hi
17:39 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7729 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mjr, Pushed to Master , svc API should allow modification of items
17:39 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8422 minor, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Master , Fix impossible warning in circulation.pl when OverduesBlockCirc set to Block
17:39 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6720 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Saved authorities always show as 'Default'
17:39 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8386 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Error in duplicate detection message for authorities
17:39 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8398 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Missing image file in staff global css
17:39 jenkins_koha * mjr: Bug 7729 : svc/new_bib: support ?items=1 to add POSTed items to the new biblio too
17:39 jenkins_koha * dcook: Bug 8422 - Fix impossible warning in circulation.pl when OverduesBlockCirc set to Block
17:39 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 6720 follow-up: use authtypetext instead of summary
17:39 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 6720: Display the authority type in OPAC
17:39 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8381 blocker, P1 - high, ---, alex.arnaud, In Discussion , Paging broken in OPAC search results
17:39 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 8386: Error in duplicate detection message for authorities
17:39 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 8398 - Missing image file in staff global css
17:39 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 8381: Fix adding limits to search history for logged in users
17:39 jenkins_koha * alex.arnaud: Bug 8381 - Paging broken in OPAC search results
17:39 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #787: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 3 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/787/
17:30 jcamins      oleonard: for adding just *part* of the changes to a file to a commit.
17:29 oleonard     Whassat jcamins ?
17:25 * jcamins    learns to use git add -p
17:06 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8421 minor, P5 - low, ---, elliott, Signed Off , patron images fail when barcode for patron has a +
17:06 * oleonard   signed off on Bug 8421, must've been bribed
17:03 oleonard     I'm a vindictive tyrant slef, as anyone can tell you
17:02 slef         oleonard: having a bad day and paying back, right?
17:02 jcamins      +1 for "Related media."
17:00 * oleonard   is failing many patches today, swears it's nothing personal
16:43 wizzyrea     i like it
16:40 oleonard     Idea: the option to add a note to a patron's account when canceling a hold from the staff client
16:36 jenkins_koha Starting build #787 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 13 days ago)
16:29 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_7729' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=108e901043f0766f8c103f3826b5af1cdb6daaa4> / Bug 7729 : svc/new_bib: support ?items=1 to add POSTed items to the new biblio too <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6dba1394e1abbf0c366f96842e3317664104a2b9> / Bug 8422 - Fix impossible warning in circulation.pl when OverduesBlockCirc
16:23 tweetbot`    [off] Twitter: @opensourceway: "@gtsilvia77 maybe you can share the results with our audience when the survey is complete? #kohails"
16:22 jcamins      It must be an interaction between the two, since testing either apparently worked.
16:21 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8381 blocker, P1 - high, ---, alex.arnaud, In Discussion , Paging broken in OPAC search results
16:21 wahanui      i think bug 8381 is fixed (i hope). And it should fix the freezing problem too. And you're the one (with me) that can test
16:21 paul_p       bug 8381
16:21 paul_p       :\
16:21 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5981 blocker, P1 - high, ---, alex.arnaud, REOPENED , OPAC: Add limits to search history
16:21 paul_p       bug 5981
16:21 jcamins      paul_p: updated bugs 5981 and 8381.
16:19 * jcamins    updated the bugs.
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16:16 wizzyrea     yea it was broken for me too
16:16 jcamins      oleonard: no idea.
16:15 oleonard     Why is the query rewritten?
16:14 * drojf      does not understand a word
16:14 jcamins      How or where I don't know, but that's what is breaking it.
16:13 jcamins      It adds a space to the end of the query string.
16:13 jcamins      Okay, mystery solved.
16:12 jcamins      With the search history enabled, the query is completely rewritten.
16:12 jcamins      Weird.
16:11 jcamins      I guess, though I switched to Chrome because it was less likely to have issues with that.
16:10 oleonard     I assume this is the same as the "unresponsive script" thing in Firefox
16:09 jcamins      So, not just me.
16:09 jcamins      Okay.
16:09 jcamins      Oh, it does.
16:09 oleonard     jcamins: You mean in master? It crashes Chrome for me too in master
16:08 jcamins      So it's not broken for anyone but me?
16:03 jcamins      I guess the thing to do is enable it, download the page with something that doesn't try to render the page, then disable it, download the page again, and do a diff.
16:02 jcamins      Well, broken for me, anyway.
16:02 oleonard     Oh yeah, nice crash there.
16:02 wizzyrea     in chrome
16:02 wizzyrea     inc hrome
16:02 jcamins      Seems to be broken, yes.
16:02 wizzyrea     crashes
16:01 wizzyrea     hm i'm not getting search things on current master either
16:01 cait-m__     with the new patch?
16:01 cait-m__     so its still broken?
16:00 jcamins      Yeah, that's the problem.
16:00 * jcamins    disables "EnableOPACSearchHistory," tries again.
15:59 oleonard     No crash here
15:59 * jcamins    checks whether it was his patch.
15:59 slef         drojf: where are we going and what am I doing in this handbasket?
15:59 drojf        jcamins: zebra crashes when i look at it :P
15:59 * oleonard   tries
15:59 oleonard     Ooh, fun!
15:58 jcamins      Chrome crashes when I do a search in the OPAC.
15:58 jcamins      Well, darn.
15:58 drojf        slef: the uk is always one step ahead
15:57 * slef       has a fun discussion with someone about a government web site requiring people pass an eyetest before they can report a crime... again...
15:52 CharlottevL  yahoo! thank you very much!!!
15:41 pastebot     "nengard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "further help on that report to show count of items" (12 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/34
15:39 libsysguy    [off] I could never figure out how to fix the time issue on hyper-v in debian
15:39 drojf        [off] i am looking forward to whatever hyper-v has to offer regarding bottlenecks for koha
15:37 * libsysguy  just lurks
15:37 libsysguy    but I'm not on the main board too often I guess
15:37 libsysguy    haha drojf, forgets about this most of the time
15:36 drojf        libsysguy: ranting about choices of your employer is not always someting you would want to be in a google-able chatroom's logs
15:35 eythian      I mean, we have libvirt for a reason
15:34 eythian      huh, didn't realise that it was a real thing people did
15:34 libsysguy    [off] drojf yes I didn't etiher…and why are we whispering?
15:34 drojf        and i m not sure why
15:34 drojf        [off] eythian: my it does
15:33 drojf        [off] libsysguy: yes. a thousand times yes. but it wasn't my call :( that thing is a huge machine, they could have made something really cool of it
15:33 eythian      someone uses hyper v?
15:32 libsysguy    [off] strongly dislikes hyper v
15:31 drojf        [off] heh. thanks to microsoft "hyper v", or better my ignorance of all about it, our last snapshot is from end of 2011 :D still not sure if i just ignore that zebra weirdness or take it as a serious problem. me being unable to stop looking into it unfortunateky points in the opposite direction of not caring
15:30 oleonard     Bye gaetan_B
15:29 gaetan_B     bye !
15:28 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7701 critical, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, RESOLVED FIXED, Error when sending serial alerts
15:28 jcamins      Bug 7701?
15:28 nengard      i knew there was - i was the one who submitted it
15:28 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8294 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , enumeration should show in copy specific hold menu
15:28 nengard      bug 8294
15:27 jcamins      There was...
15:27 nengard      but my search skills suck today
15:27 nengard      I could have sworn there was
15:27 nengard      is there a bug/enhancement to show the volume info on the hold screen in the opac?
15:27 reiveune     bye
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15:19 wizzyrea     most if not all
15:19 wizzyrea     but we have lots of libraries and we already have most of the reports
15:18 * wizzyrea   could do the same in Kansas
15:13 oleonard     I could have the same discussion with public libraries in Ohio but it would just be us and SMFPL. I think the rest of Ohio is on not-Koha :(
15:07 paul_p       s/discussing/tweeting/
15:07 paul_p       french universities using Koha discussing about how to share some SQL queries all french universities must do because they are requested by govt (esgbu)
15:01 tweetbot`    [off] Twitter: @mdelhaye: ".@soniabouis j'aimerai bien les comparer aux notres (ben oui, on en a aussi fait dans notre coin) #esgbu #kohails"
14:59 jcamins      Hehe. Uhhh...
14:58 wizzyrea     "that self righteous smug feeling you get when you get doubled tripled coupons at the grocery store mode"
14:58 wizzyrea     help me out what's the word I'm looking for
14:58 wizzyrea     or "miser mode"
14:57 wizzyrea     lol, what do you call that "guilt mode for receipts"
14:57 * jcamins    nods as well.
14:57 * wizzyrea   nods
14:57 huginn       wizzyrea: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011)
14:57 wizzyrea     @quote get 123
14:57 wizzyrea     but god that's a fringe thing to want to do
14:56 wizzyrea     now, that (I assume) made them think "hey, we should put the ACTUAL cost on there, and tell them how much they saved every time"
14:56 jcamins      Very nice.
14:56 jcamins      Heh.
14:55 wizzyrea     from acpl, no less ;)
14:55 wizzyrea     https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150939302836149&set=a.371662911148.156404.236602086148&type=1&ref=nf
14:55 jcamins      *?
14:55 jcamins      Library receipt image/
14:55 oleonard     What image?
14:55 wizzyrea     since that image of the library receipt has been going around facebook, my libraries are clamoring to have the replacement cost on the slips
14:54 wizzyrea     replacement cost, for example
14:54 wizzyrea     you know, it would be nice to be able to specify what info from the bib goes into items.content in the slips
14:49 tweetbot`    [off] Twitter: @mdelhaye: ".@jsicot @soniabouis @tredok on pourrait commencer par y mutualiser nos requêtes sql pour l'esgbu ? #kohails #wiki"
14:46 tweetbot`    [off] Twitter: @mdelhaye: ".@soniabouis @jsicot @tredok je constate juste que bibliopedia ça marche bien avec un public a priori moins "geek" #kohails #wiki"
14:43 eythian      there's a username/password you can use in /etc/mysql/debian.cnf
14:42 CharlottevL  ok, I have to find, what was the default value...
14:40 wizzyrea     it probably asked you for it when the OS was installed
14:40 CharlottevL  what's MySQL root password? Have I set it somewhere?
14:38 jcamins      You have to log in to MySQL as root, and change the kohaadmin user's password.
14:38 jcamins      I don't know how to use mysqladmin.
14:38 CharlottevL  :(
14:38 CharlottevL  " sudo mysqladmin -u kohaadmin password “newpassword” -p " give error , "'Access denied; you need the SUPER privilege for this operation'"
14:37 CharlottevL  yes, in MySQL I haven't change it :) I'll try...
14:36 jcamins      CharlottevL: in order to change the koha administrative user's password,  you have to change it in both MySQL *and* koha-conf.xml.
14:36 jcamins      CharlottevL: this is the best place to get help.
14:35 CharlottevL  I need again help O:-) I know, there are many forums on the internet, but nothing works (sure my fault). Is there some simply way, how to change kohaadmin password? I have already change it in koha-conf.xml , but still don't work...
14:31 mtompset     Thanks for catching the misunderstanding on my bug.
14:31 mtompset     jcamins++
14:31 * mtompset   waves.
14:31 mtompset     Have a good day (24 hour period), everyone.
14:27 cait1        intenet is too bad for testing koha on the other server :(
14:25 cait1        oleonard: master or 3.8.x?
14:25 cait1        oleonard: hmmm can you try something? I have () in the description - could that be causing the problem?
14:24 jcamins      schuster: it might be possible if you don't use -t, but I'm not sure.
14:21 cait1        but I can't save the patron category
14:21 cait1        and I can group them
14:21 cait1        I can add patron attributes
14:20 cait1        still on a train...
14:20 cait1        but had problems with internet connection
14:20 cait1        nope
14:19 oleonard     cait1: I tested it and it seemed to be working
14:18 oleonard     cait1: Did you get your patron attributes working?
14:17 paul_p       schuster I don't think so
14:15 schuster     Question - is there a way now to print "notices" on demand.  Say at the end of the month I want to send overdue notices to ALL my patrons as a reminder?
14:10 jcamins      I got it.
14:10 mtompset     I was trying to prempt the question why not '' or ""?
14:10 mtompset     Clearly, I wasn't.
14:09 mtompset     I was trying to be clear. My conciseness needs work.
14:09 jcamins      And a 60-byte subject. :P
14:08 mtompset     Hey, it's a three byte fix.
14:08 jcamins      mtompset: possibly a bit too-detailed an attachment subject. ;)
14:08 mtompset     Thanks for the follow up comment.
14:07 jcamins      (so you don't bother trying to do it too and getting a "mid-air collision" error)
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14:06 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8458 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, REOPENED , $stemmed_operand in C4::Search _build_stemmed_operand is not initialized.
14:06 jcamins      mtompset: I just reopened bug 8458.
14:01 nengard      gonna need to test
14:00 mtompset     Keyword is SOMETIMES... you don't do a nested subquery with lots of joins.
14:00 nengard      hmmmm
14:00 cait1        but not sure :)
14:00 cait1        sometimes they can be faster (says my sql book which I believe in)
13:59 mtompset     True... why not a subquery that generates the count? It will be identical for the block, but pshaw to that. ;)
13:59 eythian      also, if you're careful, they don't have to be slow.
13:59 jcamins      They are less slow than a join that involves the entire database.
13:59 mtompset     They are evil and slow, but they usually work if you have the memory and patience. :)
13:58 jcamins      I used a subquery just the other day.
13:57 * libsysguy  hasn't used nested selects since oracle
13:57 mtompset     nested selects! bwahahahahaha!
13:56 nengard      i can group by biblionumber i guess - but won't that lose some holds if there are more than one on a bib?
13:56 nengard      that's where i'm stuck
13:56 nengard      right
13:56 jcamins      nengard: you need a group by of some sort in order for count to work.
13:53 nengard      need a bit of help adding an item count to a hold report  http://paste.koha-community.org/33
13:53 libsysguy    jcamins++
13:53 eythian      oh, useful
13:53 jcamins      eythian: libsysguy: I modified git-bz to allow me to update the status of bugs while git-bzing them. It's very cool.
13:53 libsysguy    mtompset: something like this http://search.cpan.org/~bobtfish/Catalyst-Plugin-Authentication-0.10021/lib/Catalyst/Plugin/Authentication.pm
13:52 eythian      just something nicer than it is
13:52 eythian      mtompset: I have no idea
13:52 mtompset     when you say pluggable eythian, you are talking a C4::Auth::{method 1} up to C4::Auth::{method n} all providing a fixed API which C4::Auth calls based on a syspref or something like that?
13:52 libsysguy    yeah nope I haven't heard you bragging about it
13:52 jcamins      eythian: IT'S SO COOL!!!
13:51 eythian      I don't think you have.
13:51 jcamins      Have I mentioned recently how cool my updated git-bz is?
13:50 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8446 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Shibboleth authentication patch
13:50 tcohen       bug 8446
13:49 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8458 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , $stemmed_operand in C4::Search _build_stemmed_operand is not initialized.
13:49 libsysguy    so we can rewrite and fix the codebase structure at the same time
13:49 mtompset     khall so is bug 8458. ;)
13:49 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3387 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , WITHDRAWN items shouldn't check in
13:49 khall        bug 3387 needs signoff, it's an easy one to test.
13:49 tcohen       so it looks incorrect
13:49 * libsysguy  votes everyone helps him with porting koha to catalyst :p
13:49 tcohen       the posted patch looks like is only reusing ENV data   from a previous login
13:48 eythian      mtompset: oh we're looking into that too
13:48 mtompset     I've been asked to get SAML 2.0 working.
13:48 eythian      wouldn't a better way be to make soemthing that gateways CAS and shibboleth?
13:48 tcohen       that's right libsysguy
13:48 libsysguy    but i could be wrong
13:48 mtompset     Actually, tcohen, if you succeed... could you pass me notes.
13:47 libsysguy    tcohen i think it would probably be more similar to CAS
13:47 mtompset     Tell me about it.
13:47 eythian      mtompset: Auth.pm is second to search.pm in terribleness :)
13:47 tcohen       not only a SSO engine, a federeated identity provider too
13:47 mtompset     First it is me rewrite C4::Search.
13:47 libsysguy    because it desperately needs it
13:47 mtompset     Why is everyone suggesting a rewrite of everything?
13:47 libsysguy    actually eythian is right :)
13:47 eythian      tcohen: rewrite Auth.pm and make it pluggable? (Please?)
13:46 libsysguy    shib is an SSO engine right tcohen
13:46 tcohen       similar to that with LDAP?
13:46 tcohen       does anyone have an idea on how an integration between koha a shibboleth shoud be implemented?
13:45 * mtompset   smacks the back of drojf's head, "Goof!"
13:43 drojf        i think you have to do that harder ;)
13:42 * mtompset   smacks drojf, "Be healed!"
13:42 tcohen       hi #koha
13:35 * drojf      feels possessed by zebra
13:33 cait         hm? :)
13:32 eythian      oh
13:32 eythian      australia doesn't have a railjet
13:31 cait         nicest train ever
13:31 cait         austrian_railjet++
13:31 * cait       waves
13:26 drojf        opac-search.pl?q=Control-number%3AHUSPZ-2002-02997+or+Record-control-number%3AHUSPZ-2002-02997 does what i did with the index thing before. so i change my custom link. and that's it. i'm out of ideas and spent a million hours on that now
13:25 drojf        and kill the zebra as soon as solr is in reach
13:25 drojf        and i think i will never ever care
13:25 jcamins      drojf: weird!
13:24 drojf        jcamins: searching for pqf=@attr 1=_ALLRECORDS @attr 2=103 "" works. biblionumber: works too. as does Control-number:xxx. but that was also all the case when my problem started. i guess i screwed up more now on the production server. this is everything imported into 3.6 and it's like i first saw the problem.  idx=Control-number&q=xxx does not do anything.
13:24 samuel       jcamins: oups, i'm stupid. I think i could do an export in csv. I'll see
13:23 samuel       Cadic, a french ils, very very old (more 10 years)
13:23 mtompset     System, jcamins (could be not quite an ILS).;)
13:23 jcamins      samuel: what ILS did that file come from?
13:23 mtompset     And what generated your file?
13:22 samuel       it's the errors of my file, it's not 100% valid
13:22 mtompset     pastebin.
13:21 mtompset     What generated the thing you put in the pastbin, samuel?
13:21 jcamins      samuel: I don't know what to recommend, then.
13:20 wahanui      irc logs are http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/
13:20 mtompset     irc logs?
13:19 samuel       it's impossible with our ils. I don't know eythian's csv script
13:18 jcamins      samuel: what do you mean? You'll have to find some way to produce CSV from your existing ILS, then either use eythian's CSV parsing script or write your own to turn that into MARC records.
13:18 samuel       jcamins: ok i convert my text in csv before parsing?
13:17 jcamins      samuel: yeah, that's probably the best option, but you'll have to parse the CSV.
13:16 eythian      paul_p: time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana
13:16 samuel       i thought to this solution > export in text format and use delimited text  translator
13:16 mtompset     Actually... could you send me that "MARC" file?
13:15 jcamins      samuel: I don't know. If you can't open the MARC file, you will need to find another format to export the data in.
13:15 mtompset     That is why you suggested rewriting it. ;)
13:15 samuel       jcamins:yes, what do you advice?
13:15 jcamins      Very much.
13:14 mtompset     But from the sounds of it, Koha's C4::Search is very much like a rotting fish.
13:13 jcamins      ;)
13:13 * jcamins    is jealous of paul_p's fish and wine locale.
13:13 oleonard     :D
13:13 * paul_p     lives in a fish city, in a wine country, maybe that explain :D
13:13 mtompset     Yes, I found the same link. ;)
13:13 paul_p       my source = http://blog.datamarket.com/2012/07/08/the-11-best-data-quotes/
13:12 paul_p       I like this one too : Data matures like wine, applications like fish
13:12 mtompset     Dude, negative karma strikes again. :P
13:12 drojf        btw mtompset: you asked for plack on machines with little ram. were my benchmarks helpful for you?
13:08 jcamins      samuel: if MarcEdit can't process the record, I don't think there's much you can do with it.
13:08 mtompset     but the quote doesn't have a year attached to it.
13:07 drojf        just kidding ;)
13:07 mtompset     Then when I didn't google Jim Barksdale, he minus'd me. :P
13:07 mtompset     For using a search form.
13:07 mtompset     He plus'd me before.
13:07 mtompset     I looked it up.
13:07 drojf        :P
13:07 jcamins      samuel: ouch. I'm out of suggestions.
13:07 oleonard     drojf: Why the negative karma for mtompset ?
13:07 mtompset     HEY!
13:06 samuel       jcamins: i've tested and it gives this XSLT processing error. Error Number: -6
13:06 drojf        mtompset-- # i was wrong
13:06 cait         changing trains a last time...
13:06 cait         ok
13:05 mtompset     Who is Jim Barksdale?
13:04 paul_p       lol = "If we have data, let’s look at data. If all we have are opinions, let’s go with mine." Jim Barksdale
13:04 mtompset     why the sign, drojf?
13:04 * drojf      loads his data into 3.6 and sighs
13:03 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8458 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , $stemmed_operand in C4::Search _build_stemmed_operand is not initialized.
13:03 mtompset     I just happened to be in bugzilla, because I just entered Bug 8458
13:03 drojf        mtompset++ # for being able to use a search form
13:03 jcamins      That's the one, thanks.
13:03 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8434 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Signed Off , Notice generation fails for Advanced Notices, Item Due, and Overdues when run in shell (due to error in Letters.pm)
13:03 mtompset     bug 8434?
13:03 mtompset     but 8434?
13:03 jcamins      I remember *nothing* about it.
13:02 jcamins      This is the problem...
13:02 cait         hm more informaton?
13:02 jcamins      Does anyone recall it?
13:02 jcamins      There was a bug recently related to set_userenv.
13:01 cait         can someone confirm?
13:01 cait         at all
13:01 cait         the patron category on patron attributes is not saving for me :(
13:01 cait         ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
13:00 jcamins      Shouldn't -w do that?
13:00 jcamins      Wait.
13:00 jcamins      You know what would be nice? A source code analyzer that would tell us when we were clobbering the namespace thanks to lexical scoping.
12:50 samuel       ok, i try
12:49 jcamins      samuel: I would try that. Then when you convert it back to MARC, perhaps Marcedit will rewrite the leader.
12:49 samuel       your idea is in a first time convert in marcxml?
12:48 samuel       yes, that's clear, our ILS is very very old, it doesn't respect valid marc
12:47 jcamins      I think this is a case of you simply needing to figure out how to fix it.
12:47 jcamins      Your ILS does not produce valid MARC.
12:47 * oleonard   high-fives wahanui
12:47 jcamins      samuel: convert the records to MARCXML and then convert it back?
12:46 wahanui      searching is probably not working
12:46 jcamins      mtompset: searching?
12:45 samuel       01367nas 2200397 4500 > i keep the error (i use marcedit)
12:44 oleonard     "Searching"
12:42 mtompset     I hate having to decide a category.
12:42 mtompset     What category is C4::Search??
12:42 * paul_p     now head to bugzilla to push some patches...
12:37 mtompset     The $stemmed_operand is never initialized.
12:37 mtompset     sub _build_stemmed_operand
12:36 huginn       slef: The operation succeeded.  Quote #211 added.
12:36 slef         @quote add <paul_p> mtate a bug in C4/Search ? That's unbelievable !
12:36 mtompset     but this actually might be related to my snowball error.
12:36 huginn       jcamins: Quote #210: "< oleonard> You could carpet a floor in FIXME's from C4/Search" (added by jcamins at 12:35 PM, July 17, 2012)
12:36 jcamins      @quote get 210
12:36 huginn       jcamins: The operation succeeded.  Quote #210 added.
12:36 jcamins      @quote add < oleonard> You could carpet a floor in FIXME's from C4/Search
12:36 mtompset     yes, yes...
12:36 libsysguy    jcamins paul_p LOL
12:36 mtompset     little.
12:36 oleonard     You could carpet a floor in FIXME's from C4/Search
12:36 paul_p       tad ???
12:36 mtompset     Just a tad.
12:35 jcamins      Are we laying it on a bit too thick?
12:35 mtompset     Well, one blatantly obvious one.
12:35 paul_p       mtate a bug in C4/Search ? That's unbelievable !
12:35 jcamins      mtompset: just one?
12:35 mtompset     I just found a bug in C4::Search
12:35 mtompset     Man! I hate finding bugs while trying to read for understanding.
12:24 mtompset     Greetings, oleonard.
12:18 * cait_train waves at oleonard
12:18 oleonard     Howdy #koha
12:04 pastebot     "nengard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "need a bit of help adding an item count to a hold report" (11 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/33
12:02 samuel       ok, it's clear :-)
12:01 drojf        01367nas  2200397   4500
12:01 samuel       could you give me an example?
11:56 jcamins      *carriage return
11:56 jcamins      Instead of a character return it should be a 0.
11:56 jcamins      Yeah, missing a zero at the end of the leader, I think.
11:56 samuel       http://pastebin.com/G7Kzihik  -->to be more precise
11:55 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8456 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, amit.gupta, NEW , Capture the invoice number, price, date of a subscription
11:55 Amit_Gupta   bug 8456
11:54 samuel       i don't really know. It's the first time i made an export in iso2709 and the results are very bad
11:54 jcamins      You are missing a 0 at the end
11:53 drojf        is the record size correct? you could try to leave that out
11:53 samuel       our ils give us many problems for export
11:52 samuel       exemple: Record Number: 1 Error: Leader Data invalid. Record Text:  01367nas  2200397   450
11:50 jcamins      There are two positions where the numeral '2' is required.
11:50 jcamins      samuel: you'll need to edit the records so that the leader has the correct data in the record specification positions.
11:49 samuel       Question: in my import,i 've always "error:leader data invalid". How can i correct it?
11:49 wahanui      bib-1 use attributes are http://www.loc.gov/z3950/agency/defns/bib1.html
11:49 jcamins      bib-1 use attributes?
11:49 jcamins      bib-1 use attributes are http://www.loc.gov/z3950/agency/defns/bib1.html
11:48 jcamins      bib-1 use attributes?
11:48 jcamins      not equal
11:48 nengard      is there info above or below that that explains more?
11:48 nengard      what does "ne 2=5" mean
11:48 nengard      hi samuel
11:48 nengard      mtompset :)
11:48 samuel       hi everybody
11:48 mtompset     Sorry, bad joke.
11:47 mtompset     It's a question mark. ;)
11:47 nengard      okay .. i'm not sure how to read this ?.
11:44 nengard      for the librarians who don't go in to the files on the server
11:44 jcamins      Not a bad idea.
11:44 nengard      which I was about to do
11:44 nengard      well then maybe I need to transcribe ccl.properties to the manual :)
11:43 jcamins      nengard: there are a lot more prefixes than show up in that list, and many of them are much shorter.
11:43 mtompset     But I don't think that is fully applicable.
11:43 mtompset     Actually, part of my reading the code led me to stopwords.
11:43 mtompset     Lord help me! NOOOOOOOOO!
11:42 jcamins      getResults and SimpleSearch
11:42 jcamins      mtompset: all of it. :(
11:42 wahanui      which part is not right for you
11:42 mtompset     which part?
11:42 mtompset     which one?
11:42 nengard      but Local-Number worked
11:42 nengard      hmmmm
11:42 jcamins      mtompset: rewrite the query parser...
11:42 jcamins      nengard: you know that table is a list of indexes, not CCL prefixes, right?
11:42 mtompset     My problem is figuring out what to change in C4::Search
11:42 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5515 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Leading 'and' in search never returns a result
11:42 mtompset     The change for bug 5515 is EASY in ccl.properties.
11:41 jcamins      mtompset: yeah, that's the file I opened up too.
11:41 mtompset     Why? because rangi and cait_train sent me into the maze of doom.
11:41 mtompset     when she said ccl I was looking at the file instantly.
11:40 nengard      I'll add biblionumber to that page
11:40 jcamins      mtompset: oh, you already copied the line I was looking for. :)
11:40 nengard      http://manual.koha-community.org/3.8/en/kohasearchindexes.html
11:40 mtompset     9002
11:40 jcamins      mtompset: it does.
11:40 jcamins      I'm seeing biblionumber
11:40 mtompset     So ccl.properties wouldn't contain the answer?
11:40 drojf        biblionumber:2 brings up nothing for me
11:39 jcamins      Local-number is call number.
11:39 jcamins      Wait, no.
11:39 jcamins      sn
11:39 drojf        i thought Local-numer is also "callnum"
11:39 mtompset     # Koha Local-Use Biblio Indexes Control-number 1=9001 biblionumber 1=9002
11:39 nengard      oh ? biblionumber works too?
11:39 jcamins      Ah, Local-Number
11:38 nengard      Local-Number:1234
11:38 nengard      Found it!
11:38 jcamins      drojf: yup.
11:38 drojf        there is a koha zebra list?
11:38 jcamins      drojf: ooh, try that search... does biblionumber:xxx bring up record xxx?
11:38 jcamins      I think.
11:37 jcamins      biblionumber:1234
11:37 nengard      jcamins (or anyone) do you know how to search by biblionumber? what's the ccl - apparently I don't have it in the manual, but I'm pretty sure it's possible
11:36 mtompset     Is this indexing?
11:36 drojf        yeah it's the nothing is working day again. wasn't that yesterday?
11:33 jcamins      I saw. Kind of a byzantine process you had to go through.
11:32 mtompset     I posted my experiences and corrections on July 3, so others don't have the same problems. :)
11:31 jcamins      Hm. I probably should, since apparently it's still used.
11:30 mtompset     I was able to get our indexes always working.
11:30 mtompset     By disabling apache, running a full reindex, and then restarting the koha-zebra daemon, and restarting apache...
11:30 jcamins      I thought it was defunct.
11:29 jcamins      I am not, no.
11:29 mtompset     koha-zebra list?
11:29 mtompset     Are you subscribed to the zebra-list, jcamins?
11:28 mtompset     Which is amazing, because I was thinking ours would be one of the broken ones.
11:27 mtompset     I guess it ran just fine on ours. :)
11:27 mtompset     “@attr 1=_ALLRECORDS @attr 2=103 "" ” returned 39401 results.
11:27 jcamins      AlwaysMatches.
11:26 jcamins      Ah.
11:26 jcamins      mtompset: I don't recall, actually.
11:26 cait_train   for room and catering?
11:25 mtompset     What is @attr 2=103?
11:25 jcamins      Yup.
11:25 mtompset     How do I run that query... just in the opac client?
11:24 drojf        pqf=@attr 1=_ALLRECORDS @attr 2=103 ""
11:24 mtompset     What's the query?
11:24 drojf        wrid
11:24 jcamins      And that query is the one that fails.
11:24 jcamins      I just know that a sizable percentage of Koha instances in the wild have broken indexes.
11:24 drojf        heh :)
11:24 jcamins      Unfortunately, I don't actually know what that means.
11:23 drojf        jcamins: possible, too many koha instances flying around here
11:23 drojf        i think i'll burn that thing
11:23 jcamins      drojf: I'm betting you did.
11:23 drojf        or i broke even more
11:23 slef         ho hum
11:23 slef         or the big unknown
11:22 slef         not massively sure who is billing us for drinks... that's the big one
11:22 slef         or both
11:22 drojf        erm. jcamins: i don't get results for the pqf search that you posted anymore. i wonder if i entered that in a wrong opac window
11:22 slef         or rather Ed Uni SA
11:21 slef         but I'd suggest people wait for now, at least until U of Ed bills us.
11:21 slef         mtompset: the co-op, but expect us to pass the begging bowl around as we've already sunk a lot of resources into it :-/
11:20 mtompset     Yikes... who pays the bills if they are outstanding?
11:20 slef         only 2/3rds of suppliers (by £) have billed us so far, so it's far from certain
11:20 cait_train   :(
11:19 slef         I think our kohacon12 hosting budget now forecasts a £250 loss... was a £100 profit before... we'll see where that ends up once more of the bills come in.
11:19 mtompset     no musical flashbacks today.
11:19 wahanui      mtompset is a human being in the Philippines, and is having musical flashbacks.
11:19 eythian      wahanui: mtompset
11:17 wahanui      mtompset: I forgot we
11:17 mtompset     wahanui: forget we
11:17 wahanui      we are very happy 3.6.3 users now or using that with zebra...
11:17 mtompset     we?
11:13 wahanui      okay, cait_train.
11:13 cait_train   mtompset: we are also using that with zebra...
11:09 mtompset     Maybe I'll wait until someone else does that. ;)
11:09 jcamins      Eventually.
11:09 jcamins      We are.
11:08 mtompset     I thought we were axing NoZebra code?
11:07 mtompset     Well, I think I'll abandon hope and run. :P
11:05 wahanui      it has been said that C4::Search is a mazy of twisty passages, all alike, patrolled by an army of grues
11:05 jcamins      C4::Search?
11:05 jcamins      C4::Search is a mazy of twisty passages, all alike, patrolled by an army of grues
11:05 wahanui      jcamins: I forgot c4::search
11:05 jcamins      forget C4::Search
11:05 wahanui      rumour has it C4::Search is calling C4::XSLT
11:05 jcamins      C4::Search?
11:05 jcamins      Good morning.
11:04 cait_train   hi jcamins :)
11:03 cait_train   we sent you a cursed labyrinth of doom... sorry
11:02 mtompset     Now I know why you didn't want to patch it. It's not a quick patch. :P
11:02 jcamins_away rangi++
10:58 cait_train   hm a real irc client has real advantags
10:55 mtompset     This widget is just fine. :)
10:55 mtompset     I don't want to keep installing things on my computer.
10:54 * rangi      goes to bed
10:54 mtompset     ARG! Weather is playing havoc with my net connection.
10:54 rangi        you should get a real irc client sometime:)
10:52 rangi        id most likely just do it for Koha::SearchEngine::Zebra
10:52 cait_train   clown fish? :)
10:51 rangi        the actual string doesnt matter, you just have to change the search code to match
10:51 rangi        it could be this is never in a title clown fish magoo cheese @*@y42742
10:50 rangi        sure but that doesnt really mattter
10:50 mtompset     Because I doubt /+/ is in a title.
10:49 rangi        yes
10:49 mtompset     Well, the point was similar changes are needed for ! and |
10:49 rangi        you could try that
10:49 cait_train   ah
10:49 rangi        its for ccl.properties cait
10:49 cait_train   okok
10:49 mtompset     I was trying to say /+/
10:49 cait_train   why not use the unicode snowman?
10:49 cait_train   ah
10:49 rangi        its only used internally
10:49 cait_train   \+ ?
10:48 rangi        it could be ++++++++++++++++
10:48 mtompset     \/+/?
10:48 rangi        ++ is in a title too
10:48 rangi        yep
10:48 mtompset     be IN a title.
10:48 cait_train   somewhere
10:48 mtompset     Okay, so + is bad, because it could be a title (or author, etc.)
10:48 cait_train   it certainly is a tile
10:47 rangi        that could be a title
10:47 rangi        or something + something
10:47 rangi        exactly
10:46 cait_train   C++
10:46 mtompset     rangi, are you still here? I'm curious as to why you said +++, not just just leave it as +?
10:42 mtompset     Now, now... not all co-ops are that incompetent.
10:41 mtompset     Are you going to be in London?
10:41 cait_train   configuring koha from a train is sloow.
10:38 slef         mtompset: the co-op is going to an office in London
10:38 slef         people wonder why I get annoyed with co-ops hiring bad web developers and then I see things like http://i.imgur.com/NXBPP.jpg ;-)
10:27 cait_train   I only ever played that version
10:25 mtompset     Can't remember when the last time I play sim city was, but I remember thinking sim city 2000 was bad.
10:25 mtompset     Sewer, sanitation plants?
10:24 cait         sewers?
10:24 cait         don't forget to build the underground things
10:23 mtompset     So, if you can't take it to your next location, where will the co-op be?
10:20 wahanui      irc logs are http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/
10:20 mtompset     irc logs?
10:20 mtompset     irc-logs?
10:19 cait         lol
10:19 * slef       laughs at drojf
10:17 drojf        hm. i started drawing an ascii commercial zone for slef to put his co-op in. but then i realised it has no power and i would have to decide what kind of power plant to build so he can work there. i better stop
10:15 drojf        :)
10:15 cait         drojf: you are not that old!
10:14 slef         zoning cannot prevent business registration here, but some property contracts do.
10:14 drojf        i played it back when it was carved in stone
10:14 cait         my last was simcity 2000
10:14 cait         oh
10:14 eythian      I last played it in black and white, I don't remember.
10:13 cait         and blue... commercial and green residential?
10:13 cait         yellow was industry, right?
10:12 drojf        yes!
10:12 cait         I was thinking about that too
10:12 cait         lol
10:12 eythian      It's like SimCity
10:12 drojf        or something
10:11 drojf        yes we have that too, you are not allowed to have business registered in strictly residential areas.
10:11 cait         that sounds funny
10:09 slef         England is funny. Some places can be used as company homes, others cannot.
10:09 slef         (thanks to the lawyers)
10:09 slef         partly... mainly because I am moving too and cannot take the co-op to my next location
10:08 mtompset     Yes, I suspect the lawyers were part of the maze of reasons.
10:08 cait         but I doubt that was the reason for moving it
10:08 cait         hm london at least sounds nice when you get asked where the coop is .)
10:07 slef         mtompset: literal. Virtual will remain the same.
10:07 slef         cait: London.
10:07 cait         for a moment I wondered if I did
10:07 cait         yay
10:07 mtompset     No. But you did get my reference. :)
10:07 cait         hm is your name george?
10:06 mtompset     I am not a monkey, cait. :P
10:06 cait         now you made us all curious :)
10:06 mtompset     virtual move or literal move? and why were lawyers involved?
10:05 cait         where are you moving it to?
10:05 drojf        ok you are trained well then :)
10:04 slef         drojf: we'll see. I'm hoping we have it down to a fine art now, this being its third move.
10:03 drojf        slef: ouch. that sounds like trouble
10:03 slef         mtompset: no-one sane ever goes into that maze willingly
10:03 mtompset     Not that I need to know, but did you go into the maze willingly?
10:03 slef         drojf: today I move the co-op :-/
10:02 drojf        slef: eew :(
10:02 wahanui      i heard kohacon13 was http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Kohacon2013#Proposals_for_hosting
10:02 slef         wahanui: kohacon13?
10:02 wahanui      slef: i don't know
10:02 slef         wahanui: kohacon?
10:02 slef         drojf: in a maze of lawyers, all different.
10:01 rangi        its just about to finish
10:01 drojf        slef: where have you been the last 2 weeks?
10:01 mtompset     It has been for a while.
10:01 slef         oh is kohacon voting open?
10:01 wahanui      OK, slef.
10:01 slef         wahanui: slef is probably busy so please use http://www.software.coop/contact/ if you need him for work
10:01 wahanui      mtompset, I didn't have anything matching myself
10:01 mtompset     wahanui: forget myself
10:01 mtompset     forget myself
10:00 wahanui      slef: I forgot slef
10:00 slef         wahanui: forget slef
10:00 mtompset     poor not-so-human bot.
10:00 mtompset     bug reports?
10:00 wahanui      it has been said that bugs is found at http://bugs.koha-community.org. Please fix any bugs you find. :) or reporting them is helpful, too.
10:00 mtompset     bugs?
10:00 mtompset     bugs is probably short for bug reports.
10:00 cait         they better show all up
10:00 rangi        yep
10:00 cait         yep
09:59 drojf        with >250 voting reno #1 i expect a nicely crowded kohacon 2013
09:59 wahanui      i think bug reporting is explained at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Bug_Reporting_Guidelines
09:59 rangi        bug reporting?
09:58 wahanui      rumour has it slef is not at home so please email kohacon12 AT software.coop instead
09:58 cait         slef?
09:58 cait         lol
09:58 wahanui      slef: huh?
09:58 slef         wahanui: you amnesiac bot you
09:58 wahanui      slef: wish i knew
09:58 slef         wahanui: bug?
09:57 slef         cait: there is a delay while I look things up
09:57 wahanui      OK, slef.
09:57 slef         wahanui: bug reporting is explained at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Bug_Reporting_Guidelines
09:57 wahanui      OK, slef.
09:57 slef         wahanui: enh is enhancement and explained at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Bug-enhancement-patch_Workflow
09:56 cait         slef: what about teaching the bot before killing it? :)
09:56 mtompset     Hi, slef.
09:55 mtompset     Okay, okay... I'll do a patch, if I understand the instructions correctly.
09:54 wahanui      errrrgh arrrrgh stop it that tickles a bit!
09:54 slef         wahanui: die!
09:54 wahanui      i don't know, slef
09:54 slef         wahanui: bug reporting?
09:54 wahanui      slef: excuse me?
09:54 slef         wahanui: you suck
09:54 wahanui      slef: no idea
09:54 slef         wahanui: RFC?
09:54 slef         hi all
09:54 wahanui      wish i knew, slef
09:54 slef         wahanui: enh?
09:52 rangi        switching the and to +++ will work fine
09:52 cait         you can always write one
09:52 rangi        attach one
09:51 mtompset     Also, it would have been nice to have a patch attached. ;)
09:50 mtompset     Not really a fix... more like a band-aid. I think Galen's comment about deciding a better grammar, or having something configurable related to it, would be better.
09:44 rangi        theres the fix
09:44 huginn       04Bug 5515: major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Leading 'and' in search never returns a result
09:44 rangi        http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5515#c1
09:43 mtompset     QueryAutoTruncate changes the problem. :)
09:42 cait         C4::Search.pm--
09:42 mtompset     Just hit this one.
09:42 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5515 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Leading 'and' in search never returns a result
09:42 mtompset     bug 5515
09:42 cait         hi mtompset
09:41 cait         :)
09:41 cait         with real keys
09:41 mtompset     Greetings, #koha.
09:41 mtompset     Hello, cait.
09:41 mtompset     as compared to a fake one? ;)
09:41 cait         yay real keyboard
09:41 * rangi      giggles at the mailing list
09:38 drojf        hi cait-m__
09:36 * cait-m__   wavws
09:35 drojf        good day #koha
09:20 cait-m__     paul_p jenkins is complaining to ke by mail - can you make it stop?
09:09 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8063 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Hold print notices do not sort by branch
09:09 mtompset     Drop the 'and', the search works fine.
09:09 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 8063 - Followup - Bug fix
09:09 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8251 critical, P1 - high, ---, koha, Signed Off , Patrons are systematically debarred at checkin
09:09 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 8063 - Followup - Make C4/Letters.pm conform to PBP
09:09 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 8063 - Hold print notices do not sort by branch
09:09 jenkins_koha * tomascohen: Bug 8251 - Follow up, use 'day' instead of 'days' for Datetime::truncate
09:09 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #786: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 3 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/786/
09:09 mtompset     A search for 'and the word came with power' generated a ZOOM error in the opac-error-log.
08:48 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8375 normal, P5 - low, ---, matted-34813, Pushed to Stable , Common diacritics not shown correctly when exporting batch label to PDF
08:48 paul_p       CharlottevL bug 8375
08:48 paul_p       CharlottevL = so in the next 3.8, that should be fixed
08:48 paul_p       CharlottevL = there's no stupid question. About label encoding, there's a patch that has been pushed very recently into Koha to fix this problem
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08:41 * cait-m__   waves
08:40 dcook        and good night #koha ;)
08:40 dcook        morning, paul_p
08:40 paul_p       good morning #koha
08:14 CharlottevL  (It's maybe problem of adobe, not koha, isn't it?)
08:14 CharlottevL  (it
08:14 CharlottevL  I see :( But I though, that this bug is already corrected...
08:08 eythian      I'm not aware of a workaround :(
08:08 eythian      CharlottevL: unfortunately that's a known problem with the label maker
08:06 jenkins_koha Starting build #786 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 12 days ago)
08:02 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8063 - Followup - Bug fix <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=20b5228af65f359b987425cb8446bb77d0ac45ff> / Bug 8063 - Followup - Make C4/Letters.pm conform to PBP <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0765d816405c9ff77cd1d9076dabce349258bcee> / Bug 8063 - Hold print notices do not sort by branch <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e1df3a
08:00 mtompset     Sadly, I'm not familiar with the label printing process.
07:59 mtompset     not sleeping, distracted by other tasks.
07:57 CharlottevL  everyone still sleeping :)
07:56 CharlottevL  I would like to print labels to my books via label creator in Koha. Is there some possibility to change encoding? because in default setting it has problems with ěščřžýáíé :(
07:54 CharlottevL  can I have again one stupid question?
07:54 CharlottevL  good morning everybody
07:43 dcook        Good point, mtompset. In any case, good luck with the auth stuff
07:42 dcook        bye, cait
07:42 cait         bye all :)
07:39 mtompset     But anyways. Back to reading boring authentication stuff.
07:38 mtompset     Well, I'm just looking to change the login page drastically, and the color scheme.
07:37 dcook        Since the manuals and all the videos that Nicole does show the interface in a very specific way
07:36 dcook        It's been proferred that skinning the staff side might not be a good idea though
07:36 dcook        I've wished the same thing at times, although the recent CSS overhaul has helped a lot
07:34 mtompset     I just wish it was as skin-able on the staff side... I still need to work on my bug.
07:31 dcook        I think the sun just went down here...:P
07:31 dcook        morning, francharb
07:31 francharb    morning #koha
07:30 dcook        for Koha
07:30 dcook        I saw a very cool skin for Evergreen at an art school in Canada, and I think with all the new ids and classes, there's much more room for fairly easy and flexible customizations
07:29 * dcook      agrees
07:27 mtompset     Okay. Though, with people making sure every section has it's own id, and CSS being what it is. I think it is much easier now. :)
07:25 cait         mtompset: I think it proved to much trouble to have your own theme probably
07:17 mtompset     So, it is one of those things that just hung around.
07:17 eythian      there isn't
07:17 mtompset     Do you know if there is a theme other than prog?
07:17 mtompset     Hello gaetan_B
07:17 mtompset     Hello, eythian
07:16 eythian      hello
07:16 gaetan_B     hello!
07:05 mtompset     Is there a "theme" other than "prog"?
07:03 mtompset     Greetings, #koha.
07:02 cait         hi biblibre :)
07:02 julian_m     hello
06:55 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5644 critical, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Stable , dropbox mode doesn't set the correct date
06:55 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8375 normal, P5 - low, ---, matted-34813, Pushed to Stable , Common diacritics not shown correctly when exporting batch label to PDF
06:55 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 5644 : Fixing the test
06:55 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 5644 : Fixing dropbox mode calculation
06:55 jenkins_koha * matted-34813: Bug 8375 - Patch for Common diacritics not shown correctly when exporting batch label to PDF
06:55 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #97: SUCCESS in 1 hr 3 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/97/
06:47 wahanui      bonjour, reiveune
06:47 reiveune     hello
06:23 alex_a       bonjour
06:15 wahanui      hi, Judit
06:15 Judit        hi
06:15 Amit_Gupta   heya judit
06:11 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6813 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, amit.gupta, Needs Signoff , Acquistions - duplicate search across orders, suggestions and catalog
06:11 Amit_Gupta   bug 6813
06:03 Judit        g
06:03 Judit        good mornin
06:03 mbalmer      morning
05:53 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8415 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, amit.gupta, Needs Signoff , Link Serial with Acquisition
05:53 Amit_Gupta   bug 8415
05:51 jenkins_koha Starting build #97 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
05:10 cait         morning #koha
03:50 Judit        so overdue items or active fine days are needed to be blocked
03:49 Judit        Returns whether a patron has overdue items that may result in a block or whether the patron has active fine days that would block circulation privileges.
03:35 dcook        No worries :)
03:34 Judit        thanks i will check
03:34 Judit        hi dcook
03:21 dcook        Hi :)
03:21 dcook        I think there are a few of us around
03:19 mib_9ozx58   anybody there?
03:18 mib_9ozx58   hello
03:17 dcook        The fine days/block days aren't stored anywhere. They're created based on a somewhat elaborate calculation that you can find in your Members.pm table under the IsMemberBlocked sub
03:12 dcook        Still there, Judit?
02:35 Judit        ah, okay
02:34 jcamins      Right, but the feature is, so I don't know how it works at all.
02:34 Judit        i mean my koha
02:34 Judit        it is not a french one:)
02:34 jcamins      It's really French library-specific.
02:33 jcamins      It has something to do with fine in days, but I don't know how that feature works.
02:33 jcamins      Hm.
02:33 Judit        it is 0
02:32 jcamins      Suspension in days.
02:32 jcamins      I'm pretty sure it's there, 'cause it was broken in 3.8, but presumably not before...
02:32 jcamins      (I'm looking to see if I can find it in 3.6.x.
02:30 jcamins      It's fine in days...
02:30 jcamins      No.
02:29 Judit        Fine Charging Interval?
02:28 Judit        let me ckeck
02:26 jcamins      Maybe in circulation rules you have fineindays blank instead of zero?
02:26 jcamins      That's fine in days.
02:25 Judit        and the patrons have no unpaid fines
02:24 Judit        OverduesBlockCirc syspref is dont block
02:24 rangi        something the french libraries added, i cant recall where it stores it
02:24 Judit        i dont have status triggers, i dont have circulation rules- other then a basic
02:23 rangi        yeah that blocked thing is from another place
02:23 Judit        but the debrred value is 0
02:23 rangi        afaik its a tinyint field, expects a 0 or a 1
02:22 Judit        some patrons come up with the message Patron has had overdue items and is blocked for 588 day(s).
02:22 Judit        3.6.4
02:22 Judit           4
02:22 jcamins      Judit: anything that resolves to true, I think.
02:22 Judit           3.6
02:22 rangi        what version of koha
02:21 Judit        if a patron is blocked what number should i have in the borrowers.debarred
02:20 rangi        hi Judit
02:19 Judit        hi
02:14 dcook        I couldn't agree more :)
02:13 rangi        Open source is built on code, but our communities are stitched together with kind words, gratitude, and little acts of service.
02:13 rangi        andy lester (of perl fame) says it well
02:12 dcook        Hiya Oak
02:12 Oak          :]
02:11 rangi        heya Oak
02:11 rangi        yay!
02:11 Oak          dcook
02:11 Oak          hello rangi :)
02:10 dcook        Your presentation at Access 2011 certainly made an impression on me, rangi :p
02:10 Oak          kia ora #koha
02:10 dcook        But it's certainly a team environment, and I want to help out :)
02:10 dcook        It's certainly been a process in terms of contributions
02:09 dcook        Mmm, that's a really good post
02:07 jcamins      That's the one.
02:07 rangi        that one?
02:07 rangi        http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz/2012/07/10/choosing-something-to-sign-off/
02:06 dcook        Makes sense
02:06 jcamins      It makes people a lot more likely to spend the time to sign off on your patches.
02:06 jcamins      (on other patches)
02:06 jcamins      Signing off is a really good idea.
02:06 jcamins      rangi just had a blog post about that.
02:06 jcamins      Exactly.
02:05 jcamins      Right. And assigning the QA to a specific person is a good way to get it ignored when that person turns out to be on vacation.
02:05 dcook        Like you say, time and money
02:05 dcook        I also figure the more I help out, the more that people can help by looking at my patches :P
02:05 dcook        I'm just wondering how to contribute more ;)
02:05 dcook        I suppose it doesn't matter much though, as the QA team will still be picking up signed off patches
02:05 jcamins      Yeah, I think that sets it to blank.
02:05 dcook        Even now, there's the option "Reset QA Contact to default"
02:04 jcamins      That was changed to a global watcher so that the QA team could use the QA contact field.
02:04 dcook        I don't think so
02:04 jcamins      Oh, you're thinking of the bugs mailing list?
02:04 dcook        Mmm
02:04 dcook        Nope. I swear that there used to be a default assignee and a default QA contact
02:04 jcamins      That wasn't very useful because people aren't paid to fix all the bugs in a given module, and don't have time for it, either.
02:03 jcamins      Oh, you mean default assignee?
02:03 jcamins      Once a bug has been signed off, someone on the QA team will claim it, when they think they will be able to QA it.
02:03 dcook        It seems like it used to be set automatically. Does that mean that no one has taken ownership of that particular module?
02:03 jcamins      Yes, the QA contact is set when someone on the QA team begins to QA the bug.
02:02 dcook        I've noticed recently that a lot of bugs don't have QA contacts.
02:02 dcook        Agreed.
01:56 jcamins      dcook: or, rather, it might, but it should stop, and certainly we shouldn't compound the issue.
01:56 jcamins      dcook: nope.
01:55 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8453 trivial, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Needs Signoff , need spaces after radio buttons on inventory
01:55 dcook        But yes, bug 8453, I just saw Nicole's response. Surely Koha doesn't use hard-coded spaces like that to affect display :S
01:47 dcook        Telepathy would be handy...
01:46 mtj-         ... cluttering up my irc logfile with their inane positive comments
01:46 wahanui      jcamins: that doesn't look right
01:46 jcamins      mtj-: change your nick or someone is going to take away your karma by accident.
01:45 rangi        heh
01:45 * jcamins    hadn't seen comment three.
01:45 jcamins      mtj-: anyway, yeah, xmllint. That should be included in xt, the same as the yamllint thing.
01:44 rangi        http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz/2012/04/01/koha-7287-12-2/
01:44 dcook        lol
01:44 jcamins      lol
01:44 mtj-         stupid koha people praising and encouraging each other!
01:44 rangi        its gonna be even bettererer
01:44 rangi        you will when i released my next version of koha
01:44 jcamins      Don't think I'll be catching up with oleonard or rangi any time soon.
01:43 dcook        Well done, jcamins
01:43 dcook        Ahh, I had been wondering about that
01:43 jcamins      Wow. Number 3.
01:43 dcook        I realized that after I posted, lol. I don't think the 4-5 hours of sleep last night was a good idea.
01:43 huginn       jcamins: Highest karma: "rangi" (614), "oleonard" (518), and "jcamins" (351).  Lowest karma: "<!" (-110), "failed" (-89), and "-" (-54).  You (jcamins) are ranked 3 out of 2147.
01:43 jcamins      @karma
01:43 huginn       jcamins: Karma for "jcamins" has been increased 352 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 351.
01:43 jcamins      @karma jcamins
01:43 huginn       jcamins: Karma for "dcook" has been increased 1 time and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 1.
01:43 jcamins      @karma dcook
01:42 jcamins      dcook: yours. That's why you got karma. :P
01:42 jcamins      mtj-: I used to use xmllint.
01:42 dcook        jcamins: Nicole's or mine?
01:42 mtj-         xmllint perhaps?
01:42 mtj-         anyone got a good tool for testing valid xml (with an xslt files too?)
01:40 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8453 trivial, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Needs Signoff , need spaces after radio buttons on inventory
01:40 jcamins      dcook: bug 8453. A very good point.
01:39 dcook        Hmm?
01:39 jcamins      dcook++
01:39 jcamins      All the other scripts should.
01:39 jcamins      So that one I think should not update bugs.
01:39 mtj          so, the qa-tools tests, would be testing that a patch applies clean, anyway... :)
01:39 mtj          although, the qa-tools tests cant be started on a patch, if the patch wont apply clean...
01:35 jcamins      And that's not really a conclusive "this patch will fail" type thing.
01:34 mtj          i guess we dont want to scare people off, there...
01:34 mtj          yeah, agreed
01:34 jcamins      mtj: the problem with the "patch applies/patch doesn't apply" is that it is often a very easy merge, and changes very frequently.
01:33 rangi        sorry ctype
01:33 mtj          i disagree, that info should go in the ticket
01:32 jcamins      Now we just need a bz swiss army chainsaw script.
01:32 jcamins      Nifty.
01:32 rangi        &format=xml
01:31 mtj          ah, so he does :)
01:31 jcamins      For that I think better not to update the ticket, but it would be nice if that information could be on the dashboard.
01:31 jcamins      mtj: paul_p already has a script for testing if patches apply.
01:30 rangi        -t
01:30 rangi        if i can remember the syntaxt
01:30 jcamins      Bet that's a lot easier than CSV + WWW::Mechanize.
01:29 mtj          even testing that the patch applies OK to master, too
01:29 rangi        you can
01:29 jcamins      rangi: you can? Didn't realize that.
01:29 rangi        with bugzilla
01:29 rangi        you can fetch any search results as xml
01:29 rangi        yep
01:28 mtj          ... then log the test result to the bug
01:28 rangi        heh
01:28 rangi        yep
01:28 jcamins      mtj: I think rangi suggested that to me.
01:28 rangi        heh
01:28 mtj          set up a bot to check new *.patch attachments  to bugzilla, and run various qa-tests on that patch
01:27 jcamins      Did someone say my name in vain?
01:27 mtj          hey, jcamins  had a nice QA idea....
01:25 rangi        mtj++ #kicking arse and doing qa