Time Nick Message 01:25 rangi mtj++ #kicking arse and doing qa 01:27 mtj hey, jcamins had a nice QA idea.... 01:27 jcamins Did someone say my name in vain? 01:28 mtj set up a bot to check new *.patch attachments to bugzilla, and run various qa-tests on that patch 01:28 rangi heh 01:28 jcamins mtj: I think rangi suggested that to me. 01:28 rangi yep 01:28 rangi heh 01:28 mtj ... then log the test result to the bug 01:29 rangi yep 01:29 rangi you can fetch any search results as xml 01:29 rangi with bugzilla 01:29 jcamins rangi: you can? Didn't realize that. 01:29 rangi you can 01:29 mtj even testing that the patch applies OK to master, too 01:30 jcamins Bet that's a lot easier than CSV + WWW::Mechanize. 01:30 rangi if i can remember the syntaxt 01:30 rangi -t 01:31 jcamins mtj: paul_p already has a script for testing if patches apply. 01:31 jcamins For that I think better not to update the ticket, but it would be nice if that information could be on the dashboard. 01:31 mtj ah, so he does :) 01:32 rangi &format=xml 01:32 jcamins Nifty. 01:32 jcamins Now we just need a bz swiss army chainsaw script. 01:33 mtj i disagree, that info should go in the ticket 01:33 rangi sorry ctype 01:34 jcamins mtj: the problem with the "patch applies/patch doesn't apply" is that it is often a very easy merge, and changes very frequently. 01:34 mtj yeah, agreed 01:34 mtj i guess we dont want to scare people off, there... 01:35 jcamins And that's not really a conclusive "this patch will fail" type thing. 01:39 mtj although, the qa-tools tests cant be started on a patch, if the patch wont apply clean... 01:39 mtj so, the qa-tools tests, would be testing that a patch applies clean, anyway... :) 01:39 jcamins So that one I think should not update bugs. 01:39 jcamins All the other scripts should. 01:39 jcamins dcook++ 01:39 dcook Hmm? 01:40 jcamins dcook: bug 8453. A very good point. 01:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8453 trivial, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Needs Signoff , need spaces after radio buttons on inventory 01:42 mtj- anyone got a good tool for testing valid xml (with an xslt files too?) 01:42 mtj- xmllint perhaps? 01:42 dcook jcamins: Nicole's or mine? 01:42 jcamins mtj-: I used to use xmllint. 01:42 jcamins dcook: yours. That's why you got karma. :P 01:43 jcamins @karma dcook 01:43 huginn jcamins: Karma for "dcook" has been increased 1 time and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 1. 01:43 jcamins @karma jcamins 01:43 huginn jcamins: Karma for "jcamins" has been increased 352 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 351. 01:43 jcamins @karma 01:43 huginn jcamins: Highest karma: "rangi" (614), "oleonard" (518), and "jcamins" (351). Lowest karma: "<!" (-110), "failed" (-89), and "-" (-54). You (jcamins) are ranked 3 out of 2147. 01:43 dcook I realized that after I posted, lol. I don't think the 4-5 hours of sleep last night was a good idea. 01:43 jcamins Wow. Number 3. 01:43 dcook Ahh, I had been wondering about that 01:43 dcook Well done, jcamins 01:44 jcamins Don't think I'll be catching up with oleonard or rangi any time soon. 01:44 rangi you will when i released my next version of koha 01:44 rangi its gonna be even bettererer 01:44 mtj- stupid koha people praising and encouraging each other! 01:44 jcamins lol 01:44 dcook lol 01:44 rangi http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz/2012/04/01/koha-7287-12-2/ 01:45 jcamins mtj-: anyway, yeah, xmllint. That should be included in xt, the same as the yamllint thing. 01:45 * jcamins hadn't seen comment three. 01:45 rangi heh 01:46 jcamins mtj-: change your nick or someone is going to take away your karma by accident. 01:46 wahanui jcamins: that doesn't look right 01:46 mtj- ... cluttering up my irc logfile with their inane positive comments 01:47 dcook Telepathy would be handy... 01:55 dcook But yes, bug 8453, I just saw Nicole's response. Surely Koha doesn't use hard-coded spaces like that to affect display :S 01:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8453 trivial, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Needs Signoff , need spaces after radio buttons on inventory 01:56 jcamins dcook: nope. 01:56 jcamins dcook: or, rather, it might, but it should stop, and certainly we shouldn't compound the issue. 02:02 dcook Agreed. 02:02 dcook I've noticed recently that a lot of bugs don't have QA contacts. 02:03 jcamins Yes, the QA contact is set when someone on the QA team begins to QA the bug. 02:03 dcook It seems like it used to be set automatically. Does that mean that no one has taken ownership of that particular module? 02:03 jcamins Once a bug has been signed off, someone on the QA team will claim it, when they think they will be able to QA it. 02:03 jcamins Oh, you mean default assignee? 02:04 jcamins That wasn't very useful because people aren't paid to fix all the bugs in a given module, and don't have time for it, either. 02:04 dcook Nope. I swear that there used to be a default assignee and a default QA contact 02:04 dcook Mmm 02:04 jcamins Oh, you're thinking of the bugs mailing list? 02:04 dcook I don't think so 02:04 jcamins That was changed to a global watcher so that the QA team could use the QA contact field. 02:05 dcook Even now, there's the option "Reset QA Contact to default" 02:05 jcamins Yeah, I think that sets it to blank. 02:05 dcook I suppose it doesn't matter much though, as the QA team will still be picking up signed off patches 02:05 dcook I'm just wondering how to contribute more ;) 02:05 dcook I also figure the more I help out, the more that people can help by looking at my patches :P 02:05 dcook Like you say, time and money 02:05 jcamins Right. And assigning the QA to a specific person is a good way to get it ignored when that person turns out to be on vacation. 02:06 jcamins Exactly. 02:06 jcamins rangi just had a blog post about that. 02:06 jcamins Signing off is a really good idea. 02:06 jcamins (on other patches) 02:06 jcamins It makes people a lot more likely to spend the time to sign off on your patches. 02:06 dcook Makes sense 02:07 rangi http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz/2012/07/10/choosing-something-to-sign-off/ 02:07 rangi that one? 02:07 jcamins That's the one. 02:09 dcook Mmm, that's a really good post 02:10 dcook It's certainly been a process in terms of contributions 02:10 dcook But it's certainly a team environment, and I want to help out :) 02:10 Oak kia ora #koha 02:10 dcook Your presentation at Access 2011 certainly made an impression on me, rangi :p 02:11 Oak hello rangi :) 02:11 Oak dcook 02:11 rangi yay! 02:11 rangi heya Oak 02:12 Oak :] 02:12 dcook Hiya Oak 02:13 rangi andy lester (of perl fame) says it well 02:13 rangi Open source is built on code, but our communities are stitched together with kind words, gratitude, and little acts of service. 02:14 dcook I couldn't agree more :) 02:19 Judit hi 02:20 rangi hi Judit 02:21 Judit if a patron is blocked what number should i have in the borrowers.debarred 02:22 rangi what version of koha 02:22 Judit 3.6 02:22 jcamins Judit: anything that resolves to true, I think. 02:22 Judit 4 02:22 Judit 3.6.4 02:22 Judit some patrons come up with the message Patron has had overdue items and is blocked for 588 day(s). 02:23 rangi afaik its a tinyint field, expects a 0 or a 1 02:23 Judit but the debrred value is 0 02:23 rangi yeah that blocked thing is from another place 02:24 Judit i dont have status triggers, i dont have circulation rules- other then a basic 02:24 rangi something the french libraries added, i cant recall where it stores it 02:24 Judit OverduesBlockCirc syspref is dont block 02:25 Judit and the patrons have no unpaid fines 02:26 jcamins That's fine in days. 02:26 jcamins Maybe in circulation rules you have fineindays blank instead of zero? 02:28 Judit let me ckeck 02:29 Judit Fine Charging Interval? 02:30 jcamins No. 02:30 jcamins It's fine in days... 02:32 jcamins (I'm looking to see if I can find it in 3.6.x. 02:32 jcamins I'm pretty sure it's there, 'cause it was broken in 3.8, but presumably not before... 02:32 jcamins Suspension in days. 02:33 Judit it is 0 02:33 jcamins Hm. 02:33 jcamins It has something to do with fine in days, but I don't know how that feature works. 02:34 jcamins It's really French library-specific. 02:34 Judit it is not a french one:) 02:34 Judit i mean my koha 02:34 jcamins Right, but the feature is, so I don't know how it works at all. 02:35 Judit ah, okay 03:12 dcook Still there, Judit? 03:17 dcook The fine days/block days aren't stored anywhere. They're created based on a somewhat elaborate calculation that you can find in your Members.pm table under the IsMemberBlocked sub 03:18 mib_9ozx58 hello 03:19 mib_9ozx58 anybody there? 03:21 dcook I think there are a few of us around 03:21 dcook Hi :) 03:34 Judit hi dcook 03:34 Judit thanks i will check 03:35 dcook No worries :) 03:49 Judit Returns whether a patron has overdue items that may result in a block or whether the patron has active fine days that would block circulation privileges. 03:50 Judit so overdue items or active fine days are needed to be blocked 05:10 cait morning #koha 05:51 jenkins_koha Starting build #97 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 05:53 Amit_Gupta bug 8415 05:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8415 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, amit.gupta, Needs Signoff , Link Serial with Acquisition 06:03 mbalmer morning 06:03 Judit good mornin 06:03 Judit g 06:11 Amit_Gupta bug 6813 06:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6813 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, amit.gupta, Needs Signoff , Acquistions - duplicate search across orders, suggestions and catalog 06:15 Amit_Gupta heya judit 06:15 Judit hi 06:15 wahanui hi, Judit 06:23 alex_a bonjour 06:47 reiveune hello 06:47 wahanui bonjour, reiveune 06:55 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #97: SUCCESS in 1 hr 3 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/97/ 06:55 jenkins_koha * matted-34813: Bug 8375 - Patch for Common diacritics not shown correctly when exporting batch label to PDF 06:55 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 5644 : Fixing dropbox mode calculation 06:55 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 5644 : Fixing the test 06:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8375 normal, P5 - low, ---, matted-34813, Pushed to Stable , Common diacritics not shown correctly when exporting batch label to PDF 06:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5644 critical, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Stable , dropbox mode doesn't set the correct date 07:02 julian_m hello 07:02 cait hi biblibre :) 07:03 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 07:05 mtompset Is there a "theme" other than "prog"? 07:16 gaetan_B hello! 07:16 eythian hello 07:17 mtompset Hello, eythian 07:17 mtompset Hello gaetan_B 07:17 mtompset Do you know if there is a theme other than prog? 07:17 eythian there isn't 07:17 mtompset So, it is one of those things that just hung around. 07:25 cait mtompset: I think it proved to much trouble to have your own theme probably 07:27 mtompset Okay. Though, with people making sure every section has it's own id, and CSS being what it is. I think it is much easier now. :) 07:29 * dcook agrees 07:30 dcook I saw a very cool skin for Evergreen at an art school in Canada, and I think with all the new ids and classes, there's much more room for fairly easy and flexible customizations 07:30 dcook for Koha 07:31 francharb morning #koha 07:31 dcook morning, francharb 07:31 dcook I think the sun just went down here...:P 07:34 mtompset I just wish it was as skin-able on the staff side... I still need to work on my bug. 07:36 dcook I've wished the same thing at times, although the recent CSS overhaul has helped a lot 07:36 dcook It's been proferred that skinning the staff side might not be a good idea though 07:37 dcook Since the manuals and all the videos that Nicole does show the interface in a very specific way 07:38 mtompset Well, I'm just looking to change the login page drastically, and the color scheme. 07:39 mtompset But anyways. Back to reading boring authentication stuff. 07:42 cait bye all :) 07:42 dcook bye, cait 07:43 dcook Good point, mtompset. In any case, good luck with the auth stuff 07:54 CharlottevL good morning everybody 07:54 CharlottevL can I have again one stupid question? 07:56 CharlottevL I would like to print labels to my books via label creator in Koha. Is there some possibility to change encoding? because in default setting it has problems with ěšÄřžýáÃé :( 07:57 CharlottevL everyone still sleeping :) 07:59 mtompset not sleeping, distracted by other tasks. 08:00 mtompset Sadly, I'm not familiar with the label printing process. 08:02 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8063 - Followup - Bug fix <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=20b5228af65f359b987425cb8446bb77d0ac45ff> / Bug 8063 - Followup - Make C4/Letters.pm conform to PBP <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0765d816405c9ff77cd1d9076dabce349258bcee> / Bug 8063 - Hold print notices do not sort by branch <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e1df3a 08:06 jenkins_koha Starting build #786 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 12 days ago) 08:08 eythian CharlottevL: unfortunately that's a known problem with the label maker 08:08 eythian I'm not aware of a workaround :( 08:14 CharlottevL I see :( But I though, that this bug is already corrected... 08:14 CharlottevL (it 08:14 CharlottevL (It's maybe problem of adobe, not koha, isn't it?) 08:40 paul_p good morning #koha 08:40 dcook morning, paul_p 08:40 dcook and good night #koha ;) 08:41 * cait-m__ waves 08:43 tweetbot` [off] Twitter: @mikromarc: "The Bibits AS Daily is out! http://t.co/Ys8A4TGL â–¸ Top stories today via @kohails" 08:48 paul_p CharlottevL = there's no stupid question. About label encoding, there's a patch that has been pushed very recently into Koha to fix this problem 08:48 paul_p CharlottevL = so in the next 3.8, that should be fixed 08:48 paul_p CharlottevL bug 8375 08:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8375 normal, P5 - low, ---, matted-34813, Pushed to Stable , Common diacritics not shown correctly when exporting batch label to PDF 09:09 mtompset A search for 'and the word came with power' generated a ZOOM error in the opac-error-log. 09:09 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #786: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 3 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/786/ 09:09 jenkins_koha * tomascohen: Bug 8251 - Follow up, use 'day' instead of 'days' for Datetime::truncate 09:09 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 8063 - Hold print notices do not sort by branch 09:09 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 8063 - Followup - Make C4/Letters.pm conform to PBP 09:09 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8251 critical, P1 - high, ---, koha, Signed Off , Patrons are systematically debarred at checkin 09:09 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 8063 - Followup - Bug fix 09:09 mtompset Drop the 'and', the search works fine. 09:09 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8063 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Hold print notices do not sort by branch 09:20 cait-m__ paul_p jenkins is complaining to ke by mail - can you make it stop? 09:35 drojf good day #koha 09:36 * cait-m__ wavws 09:38 drojf hi cait-m__ 09:41 * rangi giggles at the mailing list 09:41 cait yay real keyboard 09:41 mtompset as compared to a fake one? ;) 09:41 mtompset Hello, cait. 09:41 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 09:41 cait with real keys 09:41 cait :) 09:42 cait hi mtompset 09:42 mtompset bug 5515 09:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5515 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Leading 'and' in search never returns a result 09:42 mtompset Just hit this one. 09:42 cait C4::Search.pm-- 09:43 mtompset QueryAutoTruncate changes the problem. :) 09:44 rangi http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5515#c1 09:44 huginn 04Bug 5515: major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Leading 'and' in search never returns a result 09:44 rangi theres the fix 09:50 mtompset Not really a fix... more like a band-aid. I think Galen's comment about deciding a better grammar, or having something configurable related to it, would be better. 09:51 mtompset Also, it would have been nice to have a patch attached. ;) 09:52 rangi attach one 09:52 cait you can always write one 09:52 rangi switching the and to +++ will work fine 09:54 slef wahanui: enh? 09:54 wahanui wish i knew, slef 09:54 slef hi all 09:54 slef wahanui: RFC? 09:54 wahanui slef: no idea 09:54 slef wahanui: you suck 09:54 wahanui slef: excuse me? 09:54 slef wahanui: bug reporting? 09:54 wahanui i don't know, slef 09:54 slef wahanui: die! 09:54 wahanui errrrgh arrrrgh stop it that tickles a bit! 09:55 mtompset Okay, okay... I'll do a patch, if I understand the instructions correctly. 09:56 mtompset Hi, slef. 09:56 cait slef: what about teaching the bot before killing it? :) 09:57 slef wahanui: enh is enhancement and explained at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Bug-enhancement-patch_Workflow 09:57 wahanui OK, slef. 09:57 slef wahanui: bug reporting is explained at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Bug_Reporting_Guidelines 09:57 wahanui OK, slef. 09:57 slef cait: there is a delay while I look things up 09:58 slef wahanui: bug? 09:58 wahanui slef: wish i knew 09:58 slef wahanui: you amnesiac bot you 09:58 wahanui slef: huh? 09:58 cait lol 09:58 cait slef? 09:58 wahanui rumour has it slef is not at home so please email kohacon12 AT software.coop instead 09:59 rangi bug reporting? 09:59 wahanui i think bug reporting is explained at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Bug_Reporting_Guidelines 09:59 drojf with >250 voting reno #1 i expect a nicely crowded kohacon 2013 10:00 cait yep 10:00 rangi yep 10:00 cait they better show all up 10:00 mtompset bugs is probably short for bug reports. 10:00 mtompset bugs? 10:00 wahanui it has been said that bugs is found at http://bugs.koha-community.org. Please fix any bugs you find. :) or reporting them is helpful, too. 10:00 mtompset bug reports? 10:00 mtompset poor not-so-human bot. 10:00 slef wahanui: forget slef 10:00 wahanui slef: I forgot slef 10:01 mtompset forget myself 10:01 mtompset wahanui: forget myself 10:01 wahanui mtompset, I didn't have anything matching myself 10:01 slef wahanui: slef is probably busy so please use http://www.software.coop/contact/ if you need him for work 10:01 wahanui OK, slef. 10:01 slef oh is kohacon voting open? 10:01 mtompset It has been for a while. 10:01 drojf slef: where have you been the last 2 weeks? 10:01 rangi its just about to finish 10:02 slef drojf: in a maze of lawyers, all different. 10:02 slef wahanui: kohacon? 10:02 wahanui slef: i don't know 10:02 slef wahanui: kohacon13? 10:02 wahanui i heard kohacon13 was http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Kohacon2013#Proposals_for_hosting 10:02 drojf slef: eew :( 10:03 slef drojf: today I move the co-op :-/ 10:03 mtompset Not that I need to know, but did you go into the maze willingly? 10:03 slef mtompset: no-one sane ever goes into that maze willingly 10:03 drojf slef: ouch. that sounds like trouble 10:04 slef drojf: we'll see. I'm hoping we have it down to a fine art now, this being its third move. 10:05 drojf ok you are trained well then :) 10:05 cait where are you moving it to? 10:06 mtompset virtual move or literal move? and why were lawyers involved? 10:06 cait now you made us all curious :) 10:06 mtompset I am not a monkey, cait. :P 10:07 cait hm is your name george? 10:07 mtompset No. But you did get my reference. :) 10:07 cait yay 10:07 cait for a moment I wondered if I did 10:07 slef cait: London. 10:07 slef mtompset: literal. Virtual will remain the same. 10:08 cait hm london at least sounds nice when you get asked where the coop is .) 10:08 cait but I doubt that was the reason for moving it 10:08 mtompset Yes, I suspect the lawyers were part of the maze of reasons. 10:09 slef partly... mainly because I am moving too and cannot take the co-op to my next location 10:09 slef (thanks to the lawyers) 10:09 slef England is funny. Some places can be used as company homes, others cannot. 10:11 cait that sounds funny 10:11 drojf yes we have that too, you are not allowed to have business registered in strictly residential areas. 10:12 drojf or something 10:12 eythian It's like SimCity 10:12 cait lol 10:12 cait I was thinking about that too 10:12 drojf yes! 10:13 cait yellow was industry, right? 10:13 cait and blue... commercial and green residential? 10:14 eythian I last played it in black and white, I don't remember. 10:14 cait oh 10:14 cait my last was simcity 2000 10:14 drojf i played it back when it was carved in stone 10:14 slef zoning cannot prevent business registration here, but some property contracts do. 10:15 cait drojf: you are not that old! 10:15 drojf :) 10:17 drojf hm. i started drawing an ascii commercial zone for slef to put his co-op in. but then i realised it has no power and i would have to decide what kind of power plant to build so he can work there. i better stop 10:19 * slef laughs at drojf 10:19 cait lol 10:20 mtompset irc-logs? 10:20 mtompset irc logs? 10:20 wahanui irc logs are http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/ 10:23 mtompset So, if you can't take it to your next location, where will the co-op be? 10:24 cait don't forget to build the underground things 10:24 cait sewers? 10:25 mtompset Sewer, sanitation plants? 10:25 mtompset Can't remember when the last time I play sim city was, but I remember thinking sim city 2000 was bad. 10:27 cait_train I only ever played that version 10:38 slef people wonder why I get annoyed with co-ops hiring bad web developers and then I see things like http://i.imgur.com/NXBPP.jpg ;-) 10:38 slef mtompset: the co-op is going to an office in London 10:41 cait_train configuring koha from a train is sloow. 10:41 mtompset Are you going to be in London? 10:42 mtompset Now, now... not all co-ops are that incompetent. 10:46 mtompset rangi, are you still here? I'm curious as to why you said +++, not just just leave it as +? 10:46 cait_train C++ 10:47 rangi exactly 10:47 rangi or something + something 10:47 rangi that could be a title 10:48 cait_train it certainly is a tile 10:48 mtompset Okay, so + is bad, because it could be a title (or author, etc.) 10:48 cait_train somewhere 10:48 mtompset be IN a title. 10:48 rangi yep 10:48 rangi ++ is in a title too 10:48 mtompset \/+/? 10:48 rangi it could be ++++++++++++++++ 10:49 cait_train \+ ? 10:49 rangi its only used internally 10:49 cait_train ah 10:49 cait_train why not use the unicode snowman? 10:49 mtompset I was trying to say /+/ 10:49 cait_train okok 10:49 rangi its for ccl.properties cait 10:49 cait_train ah 10:49 rangi you could try that 10:49 mtompset Well, the point was similar changes are needed for ! and | 10:49 rangi yes 10:50 mtompset Because I doubt /+/ is in a title. 10:50 rangi sure but that doesnt really mattter 10:51 rangi it could be this is never in a title clown fish magoo cheese @*@y42742 10:51 rangi the actual string doesnt matter, you just have to change the search code to match 10:52 cait_train clown fish? :) 10:52 rangi id most likely just do it for Koha::SearchEngine::Zebra 10:54 rangi you should get a real irc client sometime:) 10:54 mtompset ARG! Weather is playing havoc with my net connection. 10:54 * rangi goes to bed 10:55 mtompset I don't want to keep installing things on my computer. 10:55 mtompset This widget is just fine. :) 10:58 cait_train hm a real irc client has real advantags 11:02 jcamins_away rangi++ 11:02 mtompset Now I know why you didn't want to patch it. It's not a quick patch. :P 11:03 cait_train we sent you a cursed labyrinth of doom... sorry 11:04 cait_train hi jcamins :) 11:05 jcamins Good morning. 11:05 jcamins C4::Search? 11:05 wahanui rumour has it C4::Search is calling C4::XSLT 11:05 jcamins forget C4::Search 11:05 wahanui jcamins: I forgot c4::search 11:05 jcamins C4::Search is a mazy of twisty passages, all alike, patrolled by an army of grues 11:05 jcamins C4::Search? 11:05 wahanui it has been said that C4::Search is a mazy of twisty passages, all alike, patrolled by an army of grues 11:07 mtompset Well, I think I'll abandon hope and run. :P 11:08 mtompset I thought we were axing NoZebra code? 11:09 jcamins We are. 11:09 jcamins Eventually. 11:09 mtompset Maybe I'll wait until someone else does that. ;) 11:13 cait_train mtompset: we are also using that with zebra... 11:13 wahanui okay, cait_train. 11:17 mtompset we? 11:17 wahanui we are very happy 3.6.3 users now or using that with zebra... 11:17 mtompset wahanui: forget we 11:17 wahanui mtompset: I forgot we 11:19 eythian wahanui: mtompset 11:19 wahanui mtompset is a human being in the Philippines, and is having musical flashbacks. 11:19 mtompset no musical flashbacks today. 11:19 slef I think our kohacon12 hosting budget now forecasts a £250 loss... was a £100 profit before... we'll see where that ends up once more of the bills come in. 11:20 cait_train :( 11:20 slef only 2/3rds of suppliers (by £) have billed us so far, so it's far from certain 11:20 mtompset Yikes... who pays the bills if they are outstanding? 11:21 slef mtompset: the co-op, but expect us to pass the begging bowl around as we've already sunk a lot of resources into it :-/ 11:21 slef but I'd suggest people wait for now, at least until U of Ed bills us. 11:22 slef or rather Ed Uni SA 11:22 drojf erm. jcamins: i don't get results for the pqf search that you posted anymore. i wonder if i entered that in a wrong opac window 11:22 slef or both 11:22 slef not massively sure who is billing us for drinks... that's the big one 11:23 slef or the big unknown 11:23 slef ho hum 11:23 drojf or i broke even more 11:23 jcamins drojf: I'm betting you did. 11:23 drojf i think i'll burn that thing 11:23 drojf jcamins: possible, too many koha instances flying around here 11:24 jcamins Unfortunately, I don't actually know what that means. 11:24 drojf heh :) 11:24 jcamins I just know that a sizable percentage of Koha instances in the wild have broken indexes. 11:24 jcamins And that query is the one that fails. 11:24 drojf wrid 11:24 mtompset What's the query? 11:24 drojf pqf=@attr 1=_ALLRECORDS @attr 2=103 "" 11:25 mtompset How do I run that query... just in the opac client? 11:25 jcamins Yup. 11:25 mtompset What is @attr 2=103? 11:26 cait_train for room and catering? 11:26 jcamins mtompset: I don't recall, actually. 11:26 jcamins Ah. 11:27 jcamins AlwaysMatches. 11:27 mtompset “@attr 1=_ALLRECORDS @attr 2=103 "" †returned 39401 results. 11:27 mtompset I guess it ran just fine on ours. :) 11:28 mtompset Which is amazing, because I was thinking ours would be one of the broken ones. 11:29 mtompset Are you subscribed to the zebra-list, jcamins? 11:29 mtompset koha-zebra list? 11:29 jcamins I am not, no. 11:30 jcamins I thought it was defunct. 11:30 mtompset By disabling apache, running a full reindex, and then restarting the koha-zebra daemon, and restarting apache... 11:30 mtompset I was able to get our indexes always working. 11:31 jcamins Hm. I probably should, since apparently it's still used. 11:32 mtompset I posted my experiences and corrections on July 3, so others don't have the same problems. :) 11:33 jcamins I saw. Kind of a byzantine process you had to go through. 11:36 drojf yeah it's the nothing is working day again. wasn't that yesterday? 11:36 mtompset Is this indexing? 11:37 nengard jcamins (or anyone) do you know how to search by biblionumber? what's the ccl - apparently I don't have it in the manual, but I'm pretty sure it's possible 11:37 jcamins biblionumber:1234 11:38 jcamins I think. 11:38 jcamins drojf: ooh, try that search... does biblionumber:xxx bring up record xxx? 11:38 drojf there is a koha zebra list? 11:38 jcamins drojf: yup. 11:38 nengard Found it! 11:38 nengard Local-Number:1234 11:39 jcamins Ah, Local-Number 11:39 nengard oh ? biblionumber works too? 11:39 mtompset # Koha Local-Use Biblio Indexes Control-number 1=9001 biblionumber 1=9002 11:39 drojf i thought Local-numer is also "callnum" 11:39 jcamins sn 11:39 jcamins Wait, no. 11:39 jcamins Local-number is call number. 11:40 drojf biblionumber:2 brings up nothing for me 11:40 mtompset So ccl.properties wouldn't contain the answer? 11:40 jcamins I'm seeing biblionumber 11:40 jcamins mtompset: it does. 11:40 mtompset 9002 11:40 nengard http://manual.koha-community.org/3.8/en/kohasearchindexes.html 11:40 jcamins mtompset: oh, you already copied the line I was looking for. :) 11:40 nengard I'll add biblionumber to that page 11:41 mtompset when she said ccl I was looking at the file instantly. 11:41 mtompset Why? because rangi and cait_train sent me into the maze of doom. 11:41 jcamins mtompset: yeah, that's the file I opened up too. 11:42 mtompset The change for bug 5515 is EASY in ccl.properties. 11:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5515 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Leading 'and' in search never returns a result 11:42 mtompset My problem is figuring out what to change in C4::Search 11:42 jcamins nengard: you know that table is a list of indexes, not CCL prefixes, right? 11:42 jcamins mtompset: rewrite the query parser... 11:42 nengard hmmmm 11:42 nengard but Local-Number worked 11:42 mtompset which one? 11:42 mtompset which part? 11:42 wahanui which part is not right for you 11:42 jcamins mtompset: all of it. :( 11:42 jcamins getResults and SimpleSearch 11:43 mtompset Lord help me! NOOOOOOOOO! 11:43 mtompset Actually, part of my reading the code led me to stopwords. 11:43 mtompset But I don't think that is fully applicable. 11:43 jcamins nengard: there are a lot more prefixes than show up in that list, and many of them are much shorter. 11:44 nengard well then maybe I need to transcribe ccl.properties to the manual :) 11:44 nengard which I was about to do 11:44 jcamins Not a bad idea. 11:44 nengard for the librarians who don't go in to the files on the server 11:47 nengard okay .. i'm not sure how to read this ?. 11:47 mtompset It's a question mark. ;) 11:48 mtompset Sorry, bad joke. 11:48 samuel hi everybody 11:48 nengard mtompset :) 11:48 nengard hi samuel 11:48 nengard what does "ne 2=5" mean 11:48 nengard is there info above or below that that explains more? 11:48 jcamins not equal 11:48 jcamins bib-1 use attributes? 11:49 jcamins bib-1 use attributes are http://www.loc.gov/z3950/agency/defns/bib1.html 11:49 jcamins bib-1 use attributes? 11:49 wahanui bib-1 use attributes are http://www.loc.gov/z3950/agency/defns/bib1.html 11:49 samuel Question: in my import,i 've always "error:leader data invalid". How can i correct it? 11:50 jcamins samuel: you'll need to edit the records so that the leader has the correct data in the record specification positions. 11:50 jcamins There are two positions where the numeral '2' is required. 11:52 samuel exemple: Record Number: 1 Error: Leader Data invalid. Record Text: 01367nas 2200397 450 11:53 samuel our ils give us many problems for export 11:53 drojf is the record size correct? you could try to leave that out 11:54 jcamins You are missing a 0 at the end 11:54 samuel i don't really know. It's the first time i made an export in iso2709 and the results are very bad 11:55 Amit_Gupta bug 8456 11:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8456 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, amit.gupta, NEW , Capture the invoice number, price, date of a subscription 11:56 samuel http://pastebin.com/G7Kzihik -->to be more precise 11:56 jcamins Yeah, missing a zero at the end of the leader, I think. 11:56 jcamins Instead of a character return it should be a 0. 11:56 jcamins *carriage return 12:01 samuel could you give me an example? 12:01 drojf 01367nas 2200397 4500 12:02 samuel ok, it's clear :-) 12:04 pastebot "nengard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "need a bit of help adding an item count to a hold report" (11 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/33 12:18 oleonard Howdy #koha 12:18 * cait_train waves at oleonard 12:24 mtompset Greetings, oleonard. 12:35 mtompset Man! I hate finding bugs while trying to read for understanding. 12:35 mtompset I just found a bug in C4::Search 12:35 jcamins mtompset: just one? 12:35 paul_p mtate a bug in C4/Search ? That's unbelievable ! 12:35 mtompset Well, one blatantly obvious one. 12:35 jcamins Are we laying it on a bit too thick? 12:36 mtompset Just a tad. 12:36 paul_p tad ??? 12:36 oleonard You could carpet a floor in FIXME's from C4/Search 12:36 mtompset little. 12:36 libsysguy jcamins paul_p LOL 12:36 mtompset yes, yes... 12:36 jcamins @quote add < oleonard> You could carpet a floor in FIXME's from C4/Search 12:36 huginn jcamins: The operation succeeded. Quote #210 added. 12:36 jcamins @quote get 210 12:36 huginn jcamins: Quote #210: "< oleonard> You could carpet a floor in FIXME's from C4/Search" (added by jcamins at 12:35 PM, July 17, 2012) 12:36 mtompset but this actually might be related to my snowball error. 12:36 slef @quote add <paul_p> mtate a bug in C4/Search ? That's unbelievable ! 12:36 huginn slef: The operation succeeded. Quote #211 added. 12:37 mtompset sub _build_stemmed_operand 12:37 mtompset The $stemmed_operand is never initialized. 12:42 * paul_p now head to bugzilla to push some patches... 12:42 mtompset What category is C4::Search?? 12:42 mtompset I hate having to decide a category. 12:44 oleonard "Searching" 12:45 samuel 01367nas 2200397 4500 > i keep the error (i use marcedit) 12:46 jcamins mtompset: searching? 12:46 wahanui searching is probably not working 12:47 jcamins samuel: convert the records to MARCXML and then convert it back? 12:47 * oleonard high-fives wahanui 12:47 jcamins Your ILS does not produce valid MARC. 12:47 jcamins I think this is a case of you simply needing to figure out how to fix it. 12:48 samuel yes, that's clear, our ILS is very very old, it doesn't respect valid marc 12:49 samuel your idea is in a first time convert in marcxml? 12:49 jcamins samuel: I would try that. Then when you convert it back to MARC, perhaps Marcedit will rewrite the leader. 12:50 samuel ok, i try 13:00 jcamins You know what would be nice? A source code analyzer that would tell us when we were clobbering the namespace thanks to lexical scoping. 13:00 jcamins Wait. 13:00 jcamins Shouldn't -w do that? 13:01 cait ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, 13:01 cait the patron category on patron attributes is not saving for me :( 13:01 cait at all 13:01 cait can someone confirm? 13:02 jcamins There was a bug recently related to set_userenv. 13:02 jcamins Does anyone recall it? 13:02 cait hm more informaton? 13:02 jcamins This is the problem... 13:03 jcamins I remember *nothing* about it. 13:03 mtompset but 8434? 13:03 mtompset bug 8434? 13:03 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8434 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Signed Off , Notice generation fails for Advanced Notices, Item Due, and Overdues when run in shell (due to error in Letters.pm) 13:03 jcamins That's the one, thanks. 13:03 drojf mtompset++ # for being able to use a search form 13:03 mtompset I just happened to be in bugzilla, because I just entered Bug 8458 13:03 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8458 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , $stemmed_operand in C4::Search _build_stemmed_operand is not initialized. 13:04 * drojf loads his data into 3.6 and sighs 13:04 mtompset why the sign, drojf? 13:04 paul_p lol = "If we have data, let’s look at data. If all we have are opinions, let’s go with mine." Jim Barksdale 13:05 mtompset Who is Jim Barksdale? 13:06 cait ok 13:06 cait changing trains a last time... 13:06 drojf mtompset-- # i was wrong 13:06 samuel jcamins: i've tested and it gives this XSLT processing error. Error Number: -6 13:07 mtompset HEY! 13:07 oleonard drojf: Why the negative karma for mtompset ? 13:07 jcamins samuel: ouch. I'm out of suggestions. 13:07 drojf :P 13:07 mtompset I looked it up. 13:07 mtompset He plus'd me before. 13:07 mtompset For using a search form. 13:07 mtompset Then when I didn't google Jim Barksdale, he minus'd me. :P 13:07 drojf just kidding ;) 13:08 mtompset but the quote doesn't have a year attached to it. 13:08 jcamins samuel: if MarcEdit can't process the record, I don't think there's much you can do with it. 13:12 drojf btw mtompset: you asked for plack on machines with little ram. were my benchmarks helpful for you? 13:12 mtompset Dude, negative karma strikes again. :P 13:12 paul_p I like this one too : Data matures like wine, applications like fish 13:13 paul_p my source = http://blog.datamarket.com/2012/07/08/the-11-best-data-quotes/ 13:13 mtompset Yes, I found the same link. ;) 13:13 * paul_p lives in a fish city, in a wine country, maybe that explain :D 13:13 oleonard :D 13:13 * jcamins is jealous of paul_p's fish and wine locale. 13:13 jcamins ;) 13:14 mtompset But from the sounds of it, Koha's C4::Search is very much like a rotting fish. 13:15 jcamins Very much. 13:15 samuel jcamins:yes, what do you advice? 13:15 mtompset That is why you suggested rewriting it. ;) 13:15 jcamins samuel: I don't know. If you can't open the MARC file, you will need to find another format to export the data in. 13:16 mtompset Actually... could you send me that "MARC" file? 13:16 samuel i thought to this solution > export in text format and use delimited text translator 13:16 eythian paul_p: time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana 13:17 jcamins samuel: yeah, that's probably the best option, but you'll have to parse the CSV. 13:18 samuel jcamins: ok i convert my text in csv before parsing? 13:18 jcamins samuel: what do you mean? You'll have to find some way to produce CSV from your existing ILS, then either use eythian's CSV parsing script or write your own to turn that into MARC records. 13:19 samuel it's impossible with our ils. I don't know eythian's csv script 13:20 mtompset irc logs? 13:20 wahanui irc logs are http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/ 13:21 jcamins samuel: I don't know what to recommend, then. 13:21 mtompset What generated the thing you put in the pastbin, samuel? 13:22 mtompset pastebin. 13:22 samuel it's the errors of my file, it's not 100% valid 13:23 mtompset And what generated your file? 13:23 jcamins samuel: what ILS did that file come from? 13:23 mtompset System, jcamins (could be not quite an ILS).;) 13:23 samuel Cadic, a french ils, very very old (more 10 years) 13:24 samuel jcamins: oups, i'm stupid. I think i could do an export in csv. I'll see 13:24 drojf jcamins: searching for pqf=@attr 1=_ALLRECORDS @attr 2=103 "" works. biblionumber: works too. as does Control-number:xxx. but that was also all the case when my problem started. i guess i screwed up more now on the production server. this is everything imported into 3.6 and it's like i first saw the problem. idx=Control-number&q=xxx does not do anything. 13:25 jcamins drojf: weird! 13:25 drojf and i think i will never ever care 13:25 drojf and kill the zebra as soon as solr is in reach 13:26 drojf opac-search.pl?q=Control-number%3AHUSPZ-2002-02997+or+Record-control-number%3AHUSPZ-2002-02997 does what i did with the index thing before. so i change my custom link. and that's it. i'm out of ideas and spent a million hours on that now 13:31 * cait waves 13:31 cait austrian_railjet++ 13:31 cait nicest train ever 13:32 eythian australia doesn't have a railjet 13:32 eythian oh 13:33 cait hm? :) 13:35 * drojf feels possessed by zebra 13:42 tcohen hi #koha 13:42 * mtompset smacks drojf, "Be healed!" 13:43 drojf i think you have to do that harder ;) 13:45 * mtompset smacks the back of drojf's head, "Goof!" 13:46 tcohen does anyone have an idea on how an integration between koha a shibboleth shoud be implemented? 13:46 tcohen similar to that with LDAP? 13:46 libsysguy shib is an SSO engine right tcohen 13:47 eythian tcohen: rewrite Auth.pm and make it pluggable? (Please?) 13:47 libsysguy actually eythian is right :) 13:47 mtompset Why is everyone suggesting a rewrite of everything? 13:47 libsysguy because it desperately needs it 13:47 mtompset First it is me rewrite C4::Search. 13:47 tcohen not only a SSO engine, a federeated identity provider too 13:47 eythian mtompset: Auth.pm is second to search.pm in terribleness :) 13:47 mtompset Tell me about it. 13:47 libsysguy tcohen i think it would probably be more similar to CAS 13:48 mtompset Actually, tcohen, if you succeed... could you pass me notes. 13:48 libsysguy but i could be wrong 13:48 tcohen that's right libsysguy 13:48 eythian wouldn't a better way be to make soemthing that gateways CAS and shibboleth? 13:48 mtompset I've been asked to get SAML 2.0 working. 13:48 eythian mtompset: oh we're looking into that too 13:49 tcohen the posted patch looks like is only reusing ENV data from a previous login 13:49 * libsysguy votes everyone helps him with porting koha to catalyst :p 13:49 tcohen so it looks incorrect 13:49 khall bug 3387 needs signoff, it's an easy one to test. 13:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3387 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , WITHDRAWN items shouldn't check in 13:49 mtompset khall so is bug 8458. ;) 13:49 libsysguy so we can rewrite and fix the codebase structure at the same time 13:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8458 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , $stemmed_operand in C4::Search _build_stemmed_operand is not initialized. 13:50 tcohen bug 8446 13:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8446 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Shibboleth authentication patch 13:51 jcamins Have I mentioned recently how cool my updated git-bz is? 13:51 eythian I don't think you have. 13:52 jcamins eythian: IT'S SO COOL!!! 13:52 libsysguy yeah nope I haven't heard you bragging about it 13:52 mtompset when you say pluggable eythian, you are talking a C4::Auth::{method 1} up to C4::Auth::{method n} all providing a fixed API which C4::Auth calls based on a syspref or something like that? 13:52 eythian mtompset: I have no idea 13:52 eythian just something nicer than it is 13:53 libsysguy mtompset: something like this http://search.cpan.org/~bobtfish/Catalyst-Plugin-Authentication-0.10021/lib/Catalyst/Plugin/Authentication.pm 13:53 jcamins eythian: libsysguy: I modified git-bz to allow me to update the status of bugs while git-bzing them. It's very cool. 13:53 eythian oh, useful 13:53 libsysguy jcamins++ 13:53 nengard need a bit of help adding an item count to a hold report http://paste.koha-community.org/33 13:56 jcamins nengard: you need a group by of some sort in order for count to work. 13:56 nengard right 13:56 nengard that's where i'm stuck 13:56 nengard i can group by biblionumber i guess - but won't that lose some holds if there are more than one on a bib? 13:57 mtompset nested selects! bwahahahahaha! 13:57 * libsysguy hasn't used nested selects since oracle 13:58 jcamins I used a subquery just the other day. 13:59 mtompset They are evil and slow, but they usually work if you have the memory and patience. :) 13:59 jcamins They are less slow than a join that involves the entire database. 13:59 eythian also, if you're careful, they don't have to be slow. 13:59 mtompset True... why not a subquery that generates the count? It will be identical for the block, but pshaw to that. ;) 14:00 cait1 sometimes they can be faster (says my sql book which I believe in) 14:00 cait1 but not sure :) 14:00 nengard hmmmm 14:00 mtompset Keyword is SOMETIMES... you don't do a nested subquery with lots of joins. 14:01 nengard gonna need to test 14:06 jcamins mtompset: I just reopened bug 8458. 14:06 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8458 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, REOPENED , $stemmed_operand in C4::Search _build_stemmed_operand is not initialized. 14:06 tweetbot` [off] Twitter: @ByWaterSolution: "The Converse Free Library Goes Live on Koha with ByWater Solutions http://t.co/9fmVA2ak #kohails" 14:07 jcamins (so you don't bother trying to do it too and getting a "mid-air collision" error) 14:08 mtompset Thanks for the follow up comment. 14:08 jcamins mtompset: possibly a bit too-detailed an attachment subject. ;) 14:08 mtompset Hey, it's a three byte fix. 14:09 jcamins And a 60-byte subject. :P 14:09 mtompset I was trying to be clear. My conciseness needs work. 14:10 mtompset Clearly, I wasn't. 14:10 mtompset I was trying to prempt the question why not '' or ""? 14:10 jcamins I got it. 14:15 schuster Question - is there a way now to print "notices" on demand. Say at the end of the month I want to send overdue notices to ALL my patrons as a reminder? 14:17 paul_p schuster I don't think so 14:18 oleonard cait1: Did you get your patron attributes working? 14:19 oleonard cait1: I tested it and it seemed to be working 14:20 cait1 nope 14:20 cait1 but had problems with internet connection 14:20 cait1 still on a train... 14:21 cait1 I can add patron attributes 14:21 cait1 and I can group them 14:21 cait1 but I can't save the patron category 14:24 jcamins schuster: it might be possible if you don't use -t, but I'm not sure. 14:25 cait1 oleonard: hmmm can you try something? I have () in the description - could that be causing the problem? 14:25 cait1 oleonard: master or 3.8.x? 14:27 cait1 intenet is too bad for testing koha on the other server :( 14:31 mtompset Have a good day (24 hour period), everyone. 14:31 * mtompset waves. 14:31 mtompset jcamins++ 14:31 mtompset Thanks for catching the misunderstanding on my bug. 14:35 CharlottevL I need again help O:-) I know, there are many forums on the internet, but nothing works (sure my fault). Is there some simply way, how to change kohaadmin password? I have already change it in koha-conf.xml , but still don't work... 14:36 jcamins CharlottevL: this is the best place to get help. 14:36 jcamins CharlottevL: in order to change the koha administrative user's password, you have to change it in both MySQL *and* koha-conf.xml. 14:37 CharlottevL yes, in MySQL I haven't change it :) I'll try... 14:38 CharlottevL " sudo mysqladmin -u kohaadmin password “newpassword†-p " give error , "'Access denied; you need the SUPER privilege for this operation'" 14:38 CharlottevL :( 14:38 jcamins I don't know how to use mysqladmin. 14:38 jcamins You have to log in to MySQL as root, and change the kohaadmin user's password. 14:40 CharlottevL what's MySQL root password? Have I set it somewhere? 14:40 wizzyrea it probably asked you for it when the OS was installed 14:42 CharlottevL ok, I have to find, what was the default value... 14:43 eythian there's a username/password you can use in /etc/mysql/debian.cnf 14:46 tweetbot` [off] Twitter: @mdelhaye: ".@soniabouis @jsicot @tredok je constate juste que bibliopedia ça marche bien avec un public a priori moins "geek" #kohails #wiki" 14:49 tweetbot` [off] Twitter: @mdelhaye: ".@jsicot @soniabouis @tredok on pourrait commencer par y mutualiser nos requêtes sql pour l'esgbu ? #kohails #wiki" 14:54 wizzyrea you know, it would be nice to be able to specify what info from the bib goes into items.content in the slips 14:54 wizzyrea replacement cost, for example 14:55 wizzyrea since that image of the library receipt has been going around facebook, my libraries are clamoring to have the replacement cost on the slips 14:55 oleonard What image? 14:55 jcamins Library receipt image/ 14:55 jcamins *? 14:55 wizzyrea https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150939302836149&set=a.371662911148.156404.236602086148&type=1&ref=nf 14:55 wizzyrea from acpl, no less ;) 14:56 jcamins Heh. 14:56 jcamins Very nice. 14:56 wizzyrea now, that (I assume) made them think "hey, we should put the ACTUAL cost on there, and tell them how much they saved every time" 14:57 wizzyrea but god that's a fringe thing to want to do 14:57 wizzyrea @quote get 123 14:57 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) 14:57 * wizzyrea nods 14:57 * jcamins nods as well. 14:57 wizzyrea lol, what do you call that "guilt mode for receipts" 14:58 wizzyrea or "miser mode" 14:58 wizzyrea help me out what's the word I'm looking for 14:58 wizzyrea "that self righteous smug feeling you get when you get doubled tripled coupons at the grocery store mode" 14:59 jcamins Hehe. Uhhh... 15:01 tweetbot` [off] Twitter: @mdelhaye: ".@soniabouis j'aimerai bien les comparer aux notres (ben oui, on en a aussi fait dans notre coin) #esgbu #kohails" 15:07 paul_p french universities using Koha discussing about how to share some SQL queries all french universities must do because they are requested by govt (esgbu) 15:07 paul_p s/discussing/tweeting/ 15:13 oleonard I could have the same discussion with public libraries in Ohio but it would just be us and SMFPL. I think the rest of Ohio is on not-Koha :( 15:18 * wizzyrea could do the same in Kansas 15:19 wizzyrea but we have lots of libraries and we already have most of the reports 15:19 wizzyrea most if not all 15:22 tweetbot` [off] Twitter: @opensourceway: "Calling all librarians. Can you help @gtsilvia77 by taking this short survey | http://t.co/1mYNSUmK #kohails" 15:27 reiveune bye 15:27 nengard is there a bug/enhancement to show the volume info on the hold screen in the opac? 15:27 nengard I could have sworn there was 15:27 nengard but my search skills suck today 15:27 jcamins There was... 15:28 nengard bug 8294 15:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8294 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , enumeration should show in copy specific hold menu 15:28 nengard i knew there was - i was the one who submitted it 15:28 jcamins Bug 7701? 15:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7701 critical, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, RESOLVED FIXED, Error when sending serial alerts 15:29 gaetan_B bye ! 15:30 oleonard Bye gaetan_B 15:31 drojf [off] heh. thanks to microsoft "hyper v", or better my ignorance of all about it, our last snapshot is from end of 2011 :D still not sure if i just ignore that zebra weirdness or take it as a serious problem. me being unable to stop looking into it unfortunateky points in the opposite direction of not caring 15:32 libsysguy [off] strongly dislikes hyper v 15:33 eythian someone uses hyper v? 15:33 drojf [off] libsysguy: yes. a thousand times yes. but it wasn't my call :( that thing is a huge machine, they could have made something really cool of it 15:34 drojf [off] eythian: my it does 15:34 drojf and i m not sure why 15:34 libsysguy [off] drojf yes I didn't etiher…and why are we whispering? 15:34 eythian huh, didn't realise that it was a real thing people did 15:35 eythian I mean, we have libvirt for a reason 15:36 drojf libsysguy: ranting about choices of your employer is not always someting you would want to be in a google-able chatroom's logs 15:37 libsysguy haha drojf, forgets about this most of the time 15:37 libsysguy but I'm not on the main board too often I guess 15:37 * libsysguy just lurks 15:39 drojf [off] i am looking forward to whatever hyper-v has to offer regarding bottlenecks for koha 15:39 libsysguy [off] I could never figure out how to fix the time issue on hyper-v in debian 15:41 pastebot "nengard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "further help on that report to show count of items" (12 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/34 15:52 CharlottevL yahoo! thank you very much!!! 15:57 * slef has a fun discussion with someone about a government web site requiring people pass an eyetest before they can report a crime... again... 15:58 drojf slef: the uk is always one step ahead 15:58 jcamins Well, darn. 15:58 jcamins Chrome crashes when I do a search in the OPAC. 15:59 oleonard Ooh, fun! 15:59 * oleonard tries 15:59 drojf jcamins: zebra crashes when i look at it :P 15:59 slef drojf: where are we going and what am I doing in this handbasket? 15:59 * jcamins checks whether it was his patch. 15:59 oleonard No crash here 16:00 * jcamins disables "EnableOPACSearchHistory," tries again. 16:00 jcamins Yeah, that's the problem. 16:01 cait-m__ so its still broken? 16:01 cait-m__ with the new patch? 16:01 wizzyrea hm i'm not getting search things on current master either 16:02 wizzyrea crashes 16:02 jcamins Seems to be broken, yes. 16:02 wizzyrea inc hrome 16:02 wizzyrea in chrome 16:02 oleonard Oh yeah, nice crash there. 16:02 jcamins Well, broken for me, anyway. 16:03 jcamins I guess the thing to do is enable it, download the page with something that doesn't try to render the page, then disable it, download the page again, and do a diff. 16:08 jcamins So it's not broken for anyone but me? 16:09 oleonard jcamins: You mean in master? It crashes Chrome for me too in master 16:09 jcamins Oh, it does. 16:09 jcamins Okay. 16:09 jcamins So, not just me. 16:10 oleonard I assume this is the same as the "unresponsive script" thing in Firefox 16:11 jcamins I guess, though I switched to Chrome because it was less likely to have issues with that. 16:12 jcamins Weird. 16:12 jcamins With the search history enabled, the query is completely rewritten. 16:13 jcamins Okay, mystery solved. 16:13 jcamins It adds a space to the end of the query string. 16:14 jcamins How or where I don't know, but that's what is breaking it. 16:14 * drojf does not understand a word 16:15 oleonard Why is the query rewritten? 16:16 jcamins oleonard: no idea. 16:16 wizzyrea yea it was broken for me too 16:17 tweetbot` [off] Twitter: @kohails: "#kohails The Converse Free Library Goes Live on Koha with ByWater Solutions http://t.co/K0UYg2R1" 16:19 * jcamins updated the bugs. 16:21 jcamins paul_p: updated bugs 5981 and 8381. 16:21 paul_p bug 5981 16:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5981 blocker, P1 - high, ---, alex.arnaud, REOPENED , OPAC: Add limits to search history 16:21 paul_p :\ 16:21 paul_p bug 8381 16:21 wahanui i think bug 8381 is fixed (i hope). And it should fix the freezing problem too. And you're the one (with me) that can test 16:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8381 blocker, P1 - high, ---, alex.arnaud, In Discussion , Paging broken in OPAC search results 16:22 jcamins It must be an interaction between the two, since testing either apparently worked. 16:23 tweetbot` [off] Twitter: @opensourceway: "@gtsilvia77 maybe you can share the results with our audience when the survey is complete? #kohails" 16:29 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_7729' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=108e901043f0766f8c103f3826b5af1cdb6daaa4> / Bug 7729 : svc/new_bib: support ?items=1 to add POSTed items to the new biblio too <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6dba1394e1abbf0c366f96842e3317664104a2b9> / Bug 8422 - Fix impossible warning in circulation.pl when OverduesBlockCirc 16:36 jenkins_koha Starting build #787 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 13 days ago) 16:40 oleonard Idea: the option to add a note to a patron's account when canceling a hold from the staff client 16:43 wizzyrea i like it 17:00 * oleonard is failing many patches today, swears it's nothing personal 17:02 jcamins +1 for "Related media." 17:02 slef oleonard: having a bad day and paying back, right? 17:03 oleonard I'm a vindictive tyrant slef, as anyone can tell you 17:06 * oleonard signed off on Bug 8421, must've been bribed 17:06 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8421 minor, P5 - low, ---, elliott, Signed Off , patron images fail when barcode for patron has a + 17:25 * jcamins learns to use git add -p 17:29 oleonard Whassat jcamins ? 17:30 jcamins oleonard: for adding just *part* of the changes to a file to a commit. 17:39 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #787: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 3 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/787/ 17:39 jenkins_koha * alex.arnaud: Bug 8381 - Paging broken in OPAC search results 17:39 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 8381: Fix adding limits to search history for logged in users 17:39 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 8398 - Missing image file in staff global css 17:39 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 8386: Error in duplicate detection message for authorities 17:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8381 blocker, P1 - high, ---, alex.arnaud, In Discussion , Paging broken in OPAC search results 17:39 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 6720: Display the authority type in OPAC 17:39 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 6720 follow-up: use authtypetext instead of summary 17:39 jenkins_koha * dcook: Bug 8422 - Fix impossible warning in circulation.pl when OverduesBlockCirc set to Block 17:39 jenkins_koha * mjr: Bug 7729 : svc/new_bib: support ?items=1 to add POSTed items to the new biblio too 17:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8398 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Missing image file in staff global css 17:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8386 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Error in duplicate detection message for authorities 17:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6720 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Saved authorities always show as 'Default' 17:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8422 minor, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Master , Fix impossible warning in circulation.pl when OverduesBlockCirc set to Block 17:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7729 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mjr, Pushed to Master , svc API should allow modification of items 17:45 martian523 hi 17:45 martian523 i'm trying to get items from reservoir into the actual database 17:45 martian523 how do i do that? 17:53 slef martian523: either manage staged marc records, or Add new MARC record and use the z39.50 search, but I'm not in a place where I can tell you exactly right now (phone internet only) 17:59 slef martian523: either manage staged marc records, or Add new MARC record and use the z39.50 search, but I'm not in a place where I can tell you exactly right now (phone internet only) 18:03 martian523 Hi, I have a problem with transferring items from reservoir to actual catalog 18:03 jcamins martian523: you will need to provide details about why slef's suggestions didn't work. 18:17 jcamins oleonard++ 18:38 oleonard Whoa. 18:41 wizzyrea wow. 18:42 wizzyrea surprised that libsysguy got it and I didn't. Must not be geographic 18:43 wizzyrea surprised that oleonard got d/c too, and i didn't. how weird. 18:43 jcamins wizzyrea: libsysguy logged out earlier because he is at class. 18:44 wizzyrea ah right, but the rest. 18:55 jcamins clrh: when you get a chance, it would be really useful if you updated the instructions for setting up solr on the wiki. Particularly the part on dependencies, which I guess have changed. 18:56 jcamins (no rush; I just edited 00-load.t to not bail out so that tests function on master, so I'm able to keep going with what I'm working on:) 19:03 jcamins @later tell kyleh I lost your signoff on bug 5079 when I changed the author- for some reason it listed Ian instead of Elliott. 19:03 huginn jcamins: The operation succeeded. 19:14 cait-m__ hi 19:36 cait1 hi #koha 19:52 * oleonard wonders why BorrowerMandatoryFields even comes into play with Bug 8392 19:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8392 minor, P5 - low, ---, ruth, Needs Signoff , Memberentry is not enforcing birthdate restrictions 19:54 oleonard I guess if you want to enforce the limit you have to make sure the field is populated. 20:09 Adv_search Hello all, I have recently upgraded to 3.6. I cannot get any results when doing an advanced search by 'location'. Anyone seen this? 20:30 libsysguy Adv_search I haven't seen that but you might try verifying that zebra is running and indexed correctly