Time Nick Message
23:58 drojf what is his problem with that?
23:58 mtj sssh, dont tell mbalmer...
23:57 drojf tweetbot`++
23:57 rangi it works!
23:55 tweetbot` [off] Twitter: @KohaBugs: "test tweet #kohails"
23:54 jenkins_koha Starting build #94 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
23:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7848 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Stable , Issues data missing from circulation notices
23:54 jenkins_koha kyle: Bug 7848 - Issues data missing from circulation notices
23:54 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #93: SUCCESS in 1 hr 3 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/93/
23:41 cjh heh, night.
23:41 libsysguy bye #koha
23:41 rangi cya
23:41 libsysguy and on that note im out for the night
23:40 cjh :)
23:40 rangi hmm?
23:40 libsysguy cjh++
23:40 libsysguy cjh just blew my mind
23:40 rangi without the syspref, nothing happens
23:39 rangi its a no risk change afaict
23:39 rangi but its not a big enough deal to stop a sign off i dont think
23:39 drojf that would be nice
23:39 rangi the bonus would be could enable this in the staff client too, without having to duplicate all that code
23:39 rangi maybe ill do that as a follow up
23:38 drojf rangi: only need to learn how to do that :)
23:38 rangi but it appears to be working!
23:38 rangi pass in the template as an object, get it back
23:37 rangi drojf: you could take the stuff in opac-detail.pl and put it in a module
23:37 cjh libsysguy: iirc you can use -I to ignore binary files
23:35 libsysguy it found a binary file :-/
23:35 libsysguy my emacs window is currently full of grep garbage
23:34 dcook On it
23:34 rangi grep for it
23:34 dcook If it isn't actually used, I suggest we nix it, because it is a pain :/
23:33 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7839 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Signed Off , Enhancement: Show routing lists attached to patron in Patron record
23:33 dcook I almost did the same thing when I was making bug 7839
23:33 libsysguy confusing poor guys like me
23:33 libsysguy i keep up those kind of mistakes around here and im going to earn a bad rep
23:33 dcook What is circ-menu.tt? Is it actually used for anything?
23:33 dcook Mm, I've wondered about that one before
23:32 rangi that would do it :)
23:32 libsysguy fml….rangi I found my mistake…I was modifying circ-menu.tt in the include folder not circ-menu.inc
23:32 rangi :-)
23:31 drojf also i need a four line bug now to see what happens :D
23:30 drojf ok i got a simple css fix locally. but no idea if that is the way somebody who knows css would do it
23:30 rangi it applied fine
23:29 drojf i hope that rebasing thing really just worked
23:29 drojf rangi++ # excellent choice :)
23:27 rangi while the kids are being good and playing with lego
23:27 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8377 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, 5p4m, Needs Signoff , Show HTML5 video/ audio in OPAC for media files in 856
23:27 * rangi plays with bug 8377
23:25 rangi yeah im hoping we can persuade oleonard to take a look
23:24 * drojf is bad at css though
23:24 drojf excellent
23:21 rangi https://gitorious.org/koha-dashboard
23:20 rangi however, its all in git so someone else can :)
23:20 drojf i can understand that :)
23:20 rangi drojf: i could if i wanted to learn css and i don't :)
23:18 drojf apart from that it's a pretty cool dashboard!
23:17 drojf rangi: could you make the random bug use three or four lines by default? it maked the monthly scoreboard go up and down depending on the length of the bug title
23:14 libsysguy ok ill keep poking at it
23:14 libsysguy crazy
23:14 rangi yep, if that filter isnt there it will error out
23:13 libsysguy img src="/cgi-bin/koha/members/patronimage.pl?crdnum=[% borrower.cardnumber | uri %]" >
23:13 libsysguy yup its just like that
23:13 rangi <a href="[% path %]?back=[% back | uri %]&title=[% title | uri %]"> like that
23:12 rangi yep
23:12 libsysguy so just like [% cardnumber | uri %]
23:12 rangi it would throw an error if that filter didnt exist
23:12 libsysguy in my carnumber I added a + at the end
23:11 libsysguy because its definitely not encoding
23:11 rangi why?
23:11 libsysguy but I think im missing an include somewhere
23:11 rangi yep, then thats all you need to do
23:11 libsysguy http://template-toolkit.org/docs/manual/Filters.html
23:11 libsysguy that is what i was trying to use was | uri
23:11 rangi or | uri
23:10 rangi eg | html
23:10 rangi | filter
23:10 rangi just use it
23:10 rangi if you want to use a built in one
23:10 rangi that first bit is how to use a filter , and the second block how to write one
23:10 rangi probably
23:09 libsysguy am I just missing something
23:09 libsysguy the link that rangi sent me seemed like overkill
23:09 libsysguy so this may be a dumb question but i am trying to uri encode a TT variable
23:08 libsysguy no meeting?
23:06 jcamins_away Or not...
23:06 rangi :)
23:05 drojf alright, nice user error with the git send-email. i should sleep more :D
23:03 libsysguy thanks rangi and jcamins_away
23:02 jcamins_away Meeting
23:02 jcamins_away Meting time.
23:02 rangi http://stats.workbuffer.org/chrisc_presentations/kohacon_hackfest/html/slide002.html
23:00 jcamins_away Uhhh... tt file. See any tecent patch of mine.
22:59 libsysguy just as a place to start looking
22:59 libsysguy jcamins_away do you know if you use them in the pl or the pm file?
22:57 jcamins_away Right. There are examples.
22:56 libsysguy use like import
22:56 libsysguy oh
22:56 libsysguy jcamins_away what do you mean?
22:55 jcamins_away If you use them yes.
22:54 libsysguy rangi do you know if TT filters is enabled in koha?
22:50 jenkins_koha Starting build #93 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: FIXED)
21:57 drojf nope :)
21:56 rangi that doesnt seem right
21:56 rangi ahhh
21:56 drojf tries
21:56 drojf it tires to send mails as root@5pam@gmx.de
21:56 drojf there
21:56 drojf der is a lot of crazy stuff in the mail.err
21:55 drojf ah
21:53 rangi hmm good point
21:53 drojf hm. interesting. but how would it have worked 12 hours ago then?
21:52 rangi i wonder if your mta is rewriting the from
21:52 drojf "5.1.7 Complete address with domain, please ( http://portal.gmx.net/serverrules ) {mp032}" no idea if that means the sender or the recipient, but both are correct addresses
21:51 drojf with git send-email that is
21:51 drojf somehow i cannot send emails to the patches list. it worked only once
21:37 drojf heh yes that is funny
21:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8110 blocker, P1 - high, ---, kyle.m.hall, In Discussion , Fines accruing on closed days
21:28 rangi i knew there was something i didnt like about bug 8110, he hit the nail right on the head
21:28 rangi dpavlin++
21:25 libsysguy cait++ rangi++
21:25 libsysguy ok well that answers that
21:25 rangi yep
21:24 libsysguy if that makes any sense
21:24 libsysguy the one in the correct location is is not the correct item type, the others are the correct item type in the incorrect location
21:23 libsysguy so i am seeing a record with mult items
21:23 libsysguy oh yeah that may be it
21:23 cait could that be what you see?
21:23 cait only in the same record
21:22 cait but not necessarily on th esame item
21:22 cait yes
21:21 libsysguy so if i did a search for an item type and then set a specific library it should be item type and library
21:20 cait if you are not using the 'more options' tomake it or
21:20 cait it should be and
21:20 libsysguy i thought it was and before but now it appears to be or
21:20 libsysguy anybody know if the boxes in advanced search are and-ed or or-ed together?
21:00 SJeffery Is there currently a way to auto-generate a barcode as needed (meaning it would not be auto-filled)? I can't seem to find a way around the auto-filling.
20:24 jcamins So long.
20:24 * jcamins prepares to do the same.
20:22 oleonard bye #koha
20:22 * oleonard heads out
20:22 jcamins drojf: both.
20:21 rangi yeah, they are never subscribed to the list
20:21 oleonard That kind of message seems to always come through Nabble.
20:20 drojf those of ubuntu or koha?
20:18 jcamins I was thinking a link to the installation instructions would be the way to go.
20:18 kathryn good morning cait and all :)
20:18 jcamins Yes, much too general.
20:18 drojf and it raises a lot of questions before you can answer
20:17 cait it's a very general question
20:17 cait hm problem iwth this is that it's not really koha or ubuntu
20:17 jcamins Slightly.
20:17 drojf slightly better
20:16 jcamins I actually was serious when I said I thought this was better than the request for videos.
20:15 jcamins Agreed.
20:15 cait good morning kathryn :)
20:15 rangi i suspect that one is entirely language differences though
20:15 jcamins And keep your shoes locked in the closet?
20:14 rangi ignore the bad, reward the good
20:14 rangi puppy training
20:14 jcamins Ah, that's true.
20:14 rangi :)
20:13 cait hm but the video one had a please
20:13 jcamins Well, at least this time there was no request for a video.
20:10 * libsysguy is an eagle eye
20:10 rangi there might be a bunch of patches, so get the right one:)
20:08 libsysguy rangi++
20:08 libsysguy i was missing the uncommenting bit
20:08 libsysguy ohh
20:07 rangi then uncomment the obsoletes line
20:07 rangi git bz attach -e bugnumber HEAD
20:07 rangi yes
20:06 libsysguy is there a flag I need to mark the other one obsolete
20:06 libsysguy and i go to attach it
20:06 libsysguy i sign off on a patch
20:06 libsysguy so I think im missing something with git bz
19:36 rangi ok spam all purged
19:33 rangi oh yeah, if that happens problem solved
19:33 jcamins But that'd be a lot easier, I think.
19:33 jcamins I think cait may have already suggested that to mtj.
19:33 jcamins Preface everything tweetbot says with [off] so that it doesn't show up.
19:32 jcamins Hey, there's another option.
19:32 rangi if someone wants to make a patch ill apply it
19:32 oleonard mbalmer: All your #kohails tweets are safe for now
19:32 rangi git://github.com/moritz/ilbot.git
19:31 jcamins Guess mbalmer gets a reprieve.
19:31 rangi so i vote either someone else does, or we leave tweetbot out
19:31 rangi ok i dont have the headspace to hack at ilbot at the moment
19:30 jcamins :)
19:30 drojf :D
19:30 jcamins Oh, never mind.
19:30 drojf there is more about that later ;)
19:30 jcamins I'm wondering if there was a typo when you copied it onto the blog.
19:29 jcamins When running all transactions at once without Plack, it completes more than twice as many transactions per second as when just doing one transaction at a time.
19:29 drojf jcamins: ?
19:29 jcamins drojf: are you sure those numbers are correct?
19:24 rangi sweet
19:23 * drojf made staff client benchmarks for the raspberry pi: http://abunchofthings.net/blog/koha-on-a-raspberry-pi-staff/
19:20 jcamins ls -lR /
19:20 jcamins There was the person who was pasting the entire results of ls -lR into the channel.
19:20 jcamins cait: there have been a few.
19:20 rangi hmm perhaps
19:20 cait hm that might have been one of very few kicks ever
19:19 jcamins While you're at it, any way to make [off] work at the end of a line, too?
19:19 * rangi goes to purge logs
19:19 jcamins Great minds. :)
19:19 jcamins Heh.
19:18 jcamins rangi: kick it?
19:18 rangi that will do for now
19:18 rangi mtj can you turn tweetbot off until i stop it appearing in the log
19:18 rangi ah yep, spammers have caught on
19:11 liw libsysguy_class, aye, it is I
19:10 libsysguy_class liw the lurker?
19:10 * liw tweeted and dented and was quite on #koha (being quiet on #koha is /me's primary activity)
19:10 mbalmer [Follow my tweets on youtube]
19:09 mbalmer [Twitter this]
19:09 mbalmer [I like this]
19:06 libsysguy_class thats forbidden
19:06 libsysguy_class but not answering yourself
19:05 oleonard mbalmer: That's called sitting at home talking to yourself
19:05 mbalmer I will invent an asocial network. Where anyone can get an account for free. And not be able to communicate with anyone else.
19:04 nengard add others if they exist
19:03 nengard here's the list of social networks: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_Social_Networks
19:03 libsysguy_class koha is such a social butterfly
19:03 nengard it's what feeds to Twitter and to Facebook for Koha
19:03 nengard this is an automated list of all of the posts on Koha related sites (that I know about) http://pipes.yahoo.com/nengard/kohablogs
19:03 mbalmer I AES256 encrypt them ;)
19:02 oleonard Looks like it's time to protect your tweets mbalmer
19:02 libsysguy_class true open-ness
19:02 tweetbot` Twitter: @mbalmer: "One of the best ILS: Koha. #kohails"
19:02 libsysguy_class omg we could post the logs to twitter
19:02 jcamins Soon there will be an infinite number of identical posts. :D
19:01 liw high volume is not necessary for quality
19:01 mbalmer or a bot to tweet what is said here...
19:01 jcamins And...
19:01 jcamins libsysguy_class: and a bot to tweet the posts to it!
19:01 libsysguy_class true…i guess we could set up a bot to post our tweets to it :p
19:01 liw 17 readers :)
19:01 oleonard It's not very exciting.
19:00 libsysguy_class yayy!!
19:00 * liw clicks subscribe
19:00 libsysguy_class http://www.reddit.com/r/koha
19:00 libsysguy_class liw yes
19:00 libsysguy_class reddit++
19:00 liw is koha on reddit too?
19:00 rangi i just post all of mbalmers tweets on reddit anyway
18:59 cait yep
18:59 cait ah, it's quite new
18:59 jcamins The bot only showed up yesterday, I think.
18:59 liw it was a couple of days ago, perhaps the bot hadn't gotten up to speed yet
18:59 mbalmer my own tweet does not show up. good.
18:56 cait and I didn't see yours on twitter *checks*
18:56 cait oh
18:56 * mbalmer is mostly negative about social media. but since I can ignore tweetbot, no harm is done.
18:56 liw I made a couple of tweets that used #kohails but I didn't see them on the channel
18:56 jcamins There ya go. If you're not interested, you don't have to follow it, and those of us who don't use Twitter still can see what's being said.
18:56 cait and we didn't expect it to be spam, as we don't see that many spam on twitter itself
18:56 cait I think it's a very nice idea
18:55 mbalmer at least I can ignore tweetbot.
18:54 mbalmer spam spam and more spam
18:54 jcamins A bot that tweets.
18:54 mbalmer the name is logical, the idea behing it is stupid.
18:54 jcamins mbalmer: it seems like a perfectly logical name to me.
18:54 oleonard Nice.
18:53 mbalmer come one, that is the most stupid thing I ever heard.
18:53 jcamins A bot that relays all tweets mentioning Koha to the channel.
18:53 mbalmer what is tweetbot?
18:50 tweetbot` Twitter: @kohails: "#kohails Using the Calendar in Koha 3.8 http://t.co/zs14tsqY"
18:32 jcamins Then you restart Apache by running `sudo apache2ctl restart`
18:26 jcamins What you should do is comment out those NameVirtualHost lines, and change <VirtualHost 5.16.100.9> to <VirtualHost *>, and <VirtualHost 5.16.100.9:8080> to <VirtualHost *:8080>
18:25 CharlottevL so it's correct?
18:25 pastebot "CharlottevL" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "apache configuration" (182 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/26
18:21 CharlottevL ok, that's maybe a problem :)
18:21 jcamins Just use * intead of 5.16.100.9.
18:20 jcamins However, you also need to remove that first NameVirtualHost.
18:20 jcamins No, in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/koha
18:19 CharlottevL this? NameVirtualHost 5.16.100.9:8080 NameVirtualHost *:8080 NameVirtualHost * in listen.conf ?
18:17 jcamins You have it set to listen on *:80 and *:8080?
18:16 jcamins Got it.
18:16 jcamins Okay, but right now you're not using the VPN.
18:15 CharlottevL because I'm connecting to this PC from an other places (school, lab...)
18:15 drojf heh paul_p has the same speed increase for the "all at once" benchmark without plack
18:15 jcamins (I'm not sure I understand exactly what you're doing)
18:15 jcamins Why are you using a VPN if you're on the same wifi?
18:15 CharlottevL (the server PC is running on ubuntu 10.10, laptop is on WinXP
18:14 CharlottevL yes... the the server PC is on the same wifi as laptop, and I'm using hamachi to have "Normal" ip, when connected per wifi
18:14 jcamins And the server's IP address is 5.16.100.9?
18:13 CharlottevL yes, on this computer it's working, but on the second laptop not...
18:12 drojf or just cleverly disguised as a koha video, have not watched it ;)
18:11 oleonard Check it out, a real one!
18:10 tweetbot` Twitter: @ByWaterSolution: "Using the Calendar in Koha 3.8 http://t.co/zqyVfk2b #kohails"
18:09 jcamins CharlottevL: on the computer that it's running on you're able to access it by going to http://5.16.100.9/ ?
18:09 * cait waves
18:08 jcamins If you have a firewall set up, you might need to tell it to allow port 80 and 8080 through.
18:07 tweetbot` Twitter: @SerinaHass: "#kohails Lol. How f'n hilarious...! http://t.co/SowW1ws0"
18:06 wahanui any ideas are welcome :)
18:06 CharlottevL any ideas?
18:06 CharlottevL hi again, can i ask? I have changed all localhosts to 5.16.100.9 (I'm using hamachi) and restart apache, on server it's working fine, but it's still don't accessible from an other computer on the same wifi...
18:03 * jcamins will stick with open source software, thank you very much.
18:01 jcamins Apparently Oracle acquired Endeca.
17:53 jcamins Pity.
17:53 jcamins Heh.
17:53 drojf so that explains how the numbers for that test were much better before, it just did not do the test :D
17:52 drojf i had top open and saw it was alive. a little
17:52 drojf was not at the computer until half an hour ago
17:52 jcamins I would probably have become convinced that the system had died before then.
17:51 jcamins You waited almost 3.5 hours?
17:51 wahanui 3.45635833333333
17:51 jcamins (12442890/1000)/3600
17:51 wahanui 12442.89
17:51 jcamins 12442890/1000
17:50 jcamins That's a lot of seconds.
17:50 drojf all transactions at once 12442890ms 0.014 operations/sec :D
17:39 wizzyrea i think that poor person got eaten by a twitter impersonator
17:39 drojf narf
17:36 tweetbot` Twitter: @SelenaCurrier: "#kohails Omg... Is that this the real deal? http://t.co/VUUhwAvg"
17:25 jcamins CharlottevL: if you open up /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/koha, you should see two <VirtualHost> sections. Make sure the one for the intranet is listening on *:8080 and the one for the opac is listening on *:80
17:24 drojf oh my. so i had some strange numbers again with benchmark_staff.pl. seemed like the non-plack staff client would eat all memory in the "all at once" test and then just skip stuff in the test. So i turned on swap and now that is running for hours already, with more than 300mb swapped
17:23 CharlottevL i think, i'll need help :) i think, as i'll try to make it accessible via IP.. it can't be without huge errors...
17:22 wahanui i think Morning is a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast.
17:22 jcamins wahanui: Morning?
17:22 CharlottevL nice! :)
17:22 slef really bbl
17:22 mbalmer perfect!
17:22 wahanui answer is probably always go back to sleep or 42
17:22 mbalmer answer?
17:22 slef sixth question?
17:22 * slef applauds
17:21 wahanui i guess fifth question is "Are we there yet?"
17:21 slef fifth question?
17:21 wahanui i heard fourth question was "Are we there yet?"
17:21 slef fourth question?
17:21 wahanui third question is "What version of Koha are you using?" http://koha-community.org/faq/find-version-koha-running/
17:21 slef third question?
17:21 wahanui second question is "What is the exact error message?"
17:21 slef second question?
17:21 wahanui "What are you trying to do?" "What is the goal?" or "What problem are you experiencing?"
17:21 slef first question?
17:21 slef jcamins: repeat after me
17:20 jcamins The good news is, we'll be better able to help now that we know, and if you have any future problems, you know where to find us.
17:20 slef bbl
17:20 CharlottevL no, it was very interesting...
17:20 slef not that I care that much
17:20 jcamins CharlottevL: sorry, I gave you a huge history lesson and it turns out that you didn't need it. :)
17:19 slef oh well
17:19 slef jcamins: can you do that in an action?
17:19 slef CharlottevL: you weren't downloading from koha.org in the last year or two then
17:19 jcamins slef: the [off] has to become at the beginning. :P
17:19 jcamins Koha.
17:19 jcamins Yes it does.
17:18 drojf also explains image support :)
17:18 CharlottevL and its koha or limelib koha? :D
17:18 * huginn thinks jcamins probably likes LibLime so much that they sit in a chair carved from a giant lime! [off]
17:18 slef @lart jcamins
17:18 jcamins Because that's a very good version to be using. :)
17:18 jcamins CharlottevL: if I had to guess, I'd say probably you got confused about where you downloaded it earlier.
17:17 CharlottevL ehm.... can you explain me, why I have Koha version: 3.08.00.000 in "about koha?" ?
17:17 jcamins CharlottevL: if all you use is the catalog, you can export all the bibs from tools, then reimport them into Koha.
17:15 slef oh drat
17:15 * huginn oi, jcamins, stop that!
17:15 slef @lart jcamins
17:15 CharlottevL :D ok ok :D is there some way how to go to Koha and transfere all my books? :)
17:15 slef lart jcamins
17:15 jcamins I don't see any local cover image support at all.
17:15 oleonard They have slightly fewer international contributors too
17:15 jcamins lol
17:15 mbalmer marginally ;)
17:14 drojf ok. that is a little less than we have :)
17:14 jcamins drojf: between 1 and 4.
17:14 drojf1 do we know how many people develop liblime koha?
17:13 CharlottevL (because it's the only possibility, Im able to find books in my libraries (the older books from 1950 etc with nothing written on cover... the image is the only possiblity O:-) )
17:12 oleonard anyway, you can do that in real Koha too CharlottevL
17:12 jcamins Well, never mind, then.
17:12 jcamins Hm.
17:11 CharlottevL yes, it's possible :)
17:11 jcamins CharlottevL: I don't think you can add images on LibLime Koha. Not sure, though.
17:11 oleonard CharlottevL: Add images? Do you mean book cover images?
17:11 jcamins still picked up the notice.
17:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8418 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Koha::Calendar is_holiday ignores all user data
17:11 * dpavlin finished Bug 8418 - Koha::Calendar fixes without touching anything else...
17:11 CharlottevL the admin interace (grafic) is for me not as important, I just need add books via z39.50 and add images..
17:11 eythian they can get pretty funny
17:11 huginn slef: I've exhausted my database of quotes
17:11 slef huginn: @lart add oi, stop that!
17:11 jcamins Hm.
17:10 * oleonard would probably pay to see a bot fight
17:10 huginn slef: Error: There are no larts in my database for #koha.
17:10 slef @lart jcamins
17:10 jcamins Look here all of you, consider yourself on notice!
17:10 huginn slef: The operation succeeded.
17:10 slef @later tell rangi can you scrub today's twitter spam from the live log and tell logbot to ignore tweetbot` please? We think it might be attracting more spam :(
17:10 jcamins oleonard: alternative way of sending messages, to avoid bot fights.
17:10 eythian /notice causes some clients to send a notification, which is annoying
17:09 oleonard /notice?
17:09 huginn jcamins: The operation succeeded.
17:09 jcamins @later tell mtj Alternatively, maybe it would be better to have tweetbot use /notice?
17:09 kf bye all :)
17:09 kf slef: rangi can clean the logs I think
17:09 wahanui no worries slef
17:09 slef wahanui: thanks
17:09 wahanui bots are listed at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars
17:09 slef wahanui: bots?
17:09 wahanui is probably here
17:09 slef ?
17:08 slef CharlottevL: our admin interface looks much shinier and nicer now, too? ;) Thanks to the lovely lovely people.
17:08 kf it's a bit hard to tell, but cataloguing should not be too different I think
17:07 drojf1 CharlottevL: i think we do not really know from the technical side. liblime forked at, i think, 3.0, which was some time ago. we don't use it, but i suppose they miss a lot of the newer stuff or do things differently. and even more important, the only support you can get for liblime is from liblime, which means you have to pay them
17:07 CharlottevL yes, that I understand, but for "normal users" - is there a big difference in administration (especially z39.50 protocol)
17:07 slef kf++ very very very good point!
17:07 kf ok, now I go - my 6 hours of cloning are over :)
17:06 jcamins CharlottevL: there's a pretty big difference, yes. We're on Koha 3.8 (working on 3.10), and LibLime Koha was based on 3.1.
17:06 huginn kf: The operation succeeded.
17:06 kf @later tell mtj - we got lots of twitter spam today - maybe the bot could tweet [off] ?
17:06 jcamins kf: ooh, good idea!
17:05 drojf1 oh *gets popcorn*
17:05 kf we will end up with all those links in the logs... then google... and so on
17:05 CharlottevL is there a big difference between liblime koha and your koha?
17:05 kf perhaps the twitterbot should tweet [off] ?
17:04 oleonard It's not always like this drojf1
17:04 jcamins If you have some option to switch to Koha, that would probably be worth it, because we're very happy to help when we can. :)
17:04 drojf1 do hashtag spammers smell that there is a tweetbot here? or is it always like this with #kohails?
17:03 jcamins Yay! You fixed it!
17:03 CharlottevL but thank you very much !
17:03 CharlottevL uaah! ignore me, I'm just stupid woman, there was only bad filename in /etc hosts.... ta-da-da...
16:55 eythian OK, good to know
16:55 slef eythian: wonder no more, apache handles each IP address as different.
16:54 slef #kohails is 90% spam or just a target today?
16:54 slef eythian: where are my networking colleagues when I need them to explain this more coherently than I can?
16:54 tweetbot` Twitter: @JemimaPorterfie: "#kohails Whoa : congrats : this kind of entirely rocks!! http://t.co/RBgJxuGD"
16:54 eythian slef: well, that's what I'm wondering.
16:54 CharlottevL hostname, not username... true
16:53 slef eythian: yes, the interface lo listens on 127.0.0.0/8 but apache handles each IP address as its own thing.
16:53 eythian CharlottevL: 127.0.1.1 == hostname == 127.0.0.1 == localhost
16:53 jcamins slef: fair enough.
16:53 CharlottevL or something...
16:53 eythian (I'd be surprised though)
16:53 CharlottevL i though 127.0.0.1 = localhost, 127.0.1.1 is username
16:53 eythian though, it could be apache is treating them differently
16:52 eythian slef: 127.0.0.0/8 == 127.0.0.1 (IIRC)
16:52 slef jcamins: avoid the site vanishing when someone adds a second website to the server ;)
16:52 slef CharlottevL: you said http://127.0.1.1:8080/ 404 not found on this server... but what is at http://127.0.0.1:8080/ ? localhost is 127.0.0.1 and eythian is telling me to ignore 127.0.1.1 :)
16:51 jcamins slef: yes, I suppose one could, but I'm having trouble thinking why you would want to.
16:50 CharlottevL now i just wand localhost working :( than i make back-up(me stupid) and tried to make accessible over IP adress.
16:49 slef jcamins: pretty sure you can ServerName and NameVirtualHost by IP address too if you want.
16:49 jcamins CharlottevL: don't worry about the error slef commented on. Most people just access Koha a bit differently and have to do more configuration.
16:49 eythian It's a thing apache does
16:49 eythian slef: ignore 127.0.1.1
16:48 slef CharlottevL: do you have Koha at http://127.0.0.1/ and http://127.0.0.1:8080/ ? What do you want at http://127.0.1.1/ ?
16:47 CharlottevL you're scariing me... I install it according step-by-step manual and it was sooooo good working... conf file for ports i have never seen.
16:47 jcamins slef: yes, much better to configure networking correctly, but when you're accessing via IP, it doesn't matter.
16:47 slef anyway, maybe not the problem
16:47 slef jcamins: no, the Norms say you configure the networking correctly ;-)
16:46 eythian jcamins: that's something else I don't do, good point.
16:46 * eythian doesn't tend to split out ports so isn't 100% sure.
16:46 jcamins eythian: when accessing a server via IP, there is no option but to disable the default site.
16:46 eythian I think that there needs to be a wildcard *:8080 put somewhere
16:45 jcamins slef: annoying, but normal.
16:45 jcamins slef: that's normal.
16:45 eythian it can be fixed by putting something into the right place in /etc/hosts
16:44 eythian the default install on some systems does it.
16:44 eythian slef: naw, that's not a bad error
16:44 slef CharlottevL: This worries me "apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName". Makes me think networking is misconfigured at a system level.
16:43 eythian I didn't think I was _that_ mean :(
16:43 slef eythian++
16:43 eythian (like, I had the opac for another instance showing up on the URL for something else for a while. That made me very confused until I worked it out)
16:42 eythian This can bite later, or cause even more confusing symptoms.
16:42 eythian wizzyrea: disabling the default site is a bit of a bad thing. It can make stuff work, but if it fixes something, it means that there is still a problem existing, and you've just made the one that's there first as the default.
16:41 CharlottevL your progress have exponential curve, in 20 minutes, it should be done :)
16:40 pastebot "CharlottevL" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "404 not found" (11 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/25
16:40 kf 4 - that's good, maybe I won't miss dinner
16:39 wizzyrea slef++ that's a great tip
16:39 slef CharlottevL: put the output of apache2ctl -S (shows virtualhosts) into http://paste.koha-community.org/
16:39 kf slowing the time a little bit to have more time to do all my work...
16:38 wizzyrea oh, have you disabled the default site?
16:38 CharlottevL http://127.0.1.1:8080/ 404 not found on this server...
16:38 kf actually for that I would like that sand... clock? from harry potter
16:38 kf hehe ok
16:38 slef kf: keep that time warp away from me! I've enough to do already without losing hours in minutes!
16:37 kf 5!
16:37 slef reinstalling rarely helps :) What's the problem?
16:37 CharlottevL btw. I know, you're experts to koha, not to apache, would it help, if I reinstall apache? (if koha is properly working and only some .conf files are false...)
16:36 kf maybe... :)
16:36 kf heh
16:36 CharlottevL you're using Asgard technology from StarGate?
16:35 kf ah, how time runs, only 6 hours now
16:33 kf oh... my virtualbox says it will only take another 8 hours to clone the machine? ugh.
16:32 kf I thik there will be monks and nuns
16:32 slef kf: I don't want to have you telling the Catholics about how wonderful and farsighted the Protestants are ;-)
16:32 slef kf: what sort of clerics?
16:31 kf oh and btw, any hints about such libraries using Koha for my slides are appreciated :)
16:31 slef CharlottevL: it's a show I was interviewed on
16:31 kf it's as part of a bigger event for hm clerical(?) libraries - so I am afraid it's not open :(
16:31 slef yesterday
16:31 CharlottevL that's your voice?
16:31 slef kf: who are you talking to? I was in London talking about Koha to a Top Sekrit Kabal
16:30 slef nearly as bad as my spanish pronounciation, if you haven't heard http://s.coop/q1af yet
16:30 CharlottevL that's normal :D but it's sound good, if I will not have to be in lab (I study biochemistry :D), maybe I'll come, cause i see, i know nothing about Koha
16:29 slef and in case it wasn't clear yet, my written German is horrendous
16:29 kf that's funny :)
16:29 slef CharlottevL: Man geht durch Deutschland, fragt etwas Deutschsprachige, und man repondiert Englishsprächige...
16:29 kf I am in Linz next week to talk about Koha
16:28 eythian (slef: I haven't confirmed that however.)
16:28 kf CharlottevL: ich bin nächste Woche in Linz!
16:28 slef CharlottevL: jemand will nicht Deutsch sprechen...
16:28 jcamins slef: accurate, depending on the department, though.
16:27 slef eythian: oops. That could go badly wrong.
16:27 CharlottevL slef: wen jemand deutsch sprechen will - ich studiere jetzt in Linz, so kein problem :D aber Maori wirklich noch nicht...
16:27 slef I think
16:27 eythian slef: funny story, the MÄori name of the university I went to is "Te Whare WÄnanga o OtÄgo" (The house of learning in Otago), however if you instead write: "Te Whare Wananga o OtÄgo", it's apparently more like "The house of war..."
16:27 slef to be fair, Anglo-Greek and Anglo-Italian IIRC
16:26 CharlottevL is it possible, /etc/apache/sites-available/ is empty file?
16:26 * slef was taught English by a MÄori, French by a Greek, German by Italian <-- true story
16:25 slef CharlottevL: two places: ports.conf and the koha file in /etc/apache/sites-available/
16:25 eythian slef: also, MÄori ;)
16:25 jcamins CharlottevL: do you remember what version of Koha you had before your upgrade, and do you have a backup from before the upgrade?
16:25 eythian slef: it's hard to translate strictly, but that's close enough to right
16:25 slef I also speak esperanto... I prefer simple languages, but humanity seems to like complicated.
16:24 kf slef also speaks German... I think he might like complicated languages :)
16:24 CharlottevL an other stupid question... where should i change, where it listens? :(
16:24 CharlottevL the maori language can't be more complicated
16:24 CharlottevL you know sure more than me... You know czech language!
16:23 slef and I'm probably butchering the Maori language like a good pakeha too, so don't trust me on the specifics :)
16:23 CharlottevL an other interesting information :)
16:22 slef CharlottevL: it's Koha, meaning something like "gift" in te reo Maori. It's not an abbreviation.
16:22 slef jcamins: well, it used to have NameVirtualHost lines in the httpd-conf, which is a bit iffy, so I expect LibLime Koha Fork still does it, as that's well iffy
16:21 CharlottevL the server is only for KOHA.
16:21 CharlottevL for me it's the same thing, something, what I don't understand... :( without step-by-step howto instruction, i wouldn be able to install KOHA.
16:20 jcamins However, this is a guess, since I'm not sure how much the httpd-conf will have changed.
16:20 slef but this is all apache stuff, not koha
16:20 slef if the server will only host one Koha, you could change all 127.0.0.1:whatever to *:whatever and comment out and NameVirtualHost 127.0.0.1:whatever lines
16:19 jcamins CharlottevL: if you were accessing the staff client via port 8080, you might need to change that so that it listens on port 8080 again (and uncomment the line in ports.conf).
16:18 CharlottevL (because I think, the problem is not in upgrade... but after upgrade i replace again all localhost with my IP and I think, I have to write something wrong somewhere...)
16:18 CharlottevL ok, its stops...
16:17 slef CharlottevL: riight, so if there's no VirtualHost *:8080 stanza, you could comment out the line in ports.conf and the errors would stop.
16:17 CharlottevL tried 2 month ago, still slow
16:17 slef CharlottevL: on a slow train to prague about 15 years ago...
16:16 CharlottevL grep VirtualHost /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/* /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default:<VirtualHost *:80> /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default:</VirtualHost> /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/koha:#NameVirtualHost * /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/koha:<VirtualHost 127.0.0.1:80> /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/koha:</VirtualHost> /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/koha:<VirtualHost 1
16:16 CharlottevL that's perfect! Where did you learn it?
16:16 slef mluvite anglicky?
16:15 CharlottevL nepovÃdej, že umÃÅ¡ Äesky :)
16:15 slef heh, an acute too... my czech is well stale
16:15 CharlottevL yes, Český Krumlov
16:15 slef CharlottevL: now grep VirtualHost /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/*
16:14 slef :)
16:14 slef found it... probably that doesn't have one
16:14 slef ÄŒesky Krumlov
16:14 CharlottevL nice :) cesky krumlov is only 15 km away
16:13 slef where is dead_check on a standard layout?
16:13 slef and I can't find accents on this keyboard
16:13 slef ooh that reminds me... I also visited Terezin camp and Cesky Krumlov
16:13 CharlottevL grep NameVirtualHost /etc/apache2/ports.conf give me NameVirtualHost *:80 NameVirtualHost *:8080
16:12 slef CharlottevL: that is only a warning, can be ignored, but suggests that the NameVirtualHost and VirtualHost entries disagree and you might like to take a look.
16:11 CharlottevL and what about ceske budejovice? Budvar?
16:11 * jcamins visited Prague.
16:11 CharlottevL not only from cheb... actualy I know no fast train here...
16:11 slef very slow train ride from Cheb to Prague
16:11 kf and I am not sure I know someone from czech republic yet
16:10 * oleonard has visited the Czech Republic and loved it
16:10 * slef has
16:10 kf hm I don't think so - but europe
16:10 CharlottevL why? have you ever been in Czech Republic?
16:10 kf course
16:10 kf not the error of coruse
16:10 kf oh nice :)
16:09 CharlottevL ok, 'im sure totaly stupid, i tried to restart apache and it's saying [Wed Jul 11 18:02:26 2012] [warn] NameVirtualHost *:8080 has no VirtualHosts
16:09 CharlottevL czech republic
16:09 kf CharlottevL: were are you located?
16:09 CharlottevL you're lucky :D my degu has destroyed internet cables yesterday :D
16:09 kf hm over a year ago - it might have already been liblime koha then
16:08 slef jcamins: bad workman!
16:08 jcamins Someone is vacuuming in the other room, and it keeps on killing my wireless.
16:08 jcamins *split off
16:08 jcamins If the previous version of Koha you had was 3.something, you probably downloaded it before LibLime split of LibLime Koha.
16:08 kf the koha open source community is using koha-community.org as domain
16:08 slef sorry
16:08 slef CharlottevL: yep. That's Koha Fork, not Koha Four.
16:08 kf yes you have
16:07 CharlottevL i have the whole time downloading from koha.org (the previous version too), that mean, I have liblime KOHA?
16:07 kf they are so different now, we would probably only confuse you
16:06 kf and it's not because we would not help you - it's only because we can't really
16:06 CharlottevL I see it's more complicated than I though...
16:06 kf well, it is very confusing
16:06 * jcamins tried
16:06 jcamins Okay, that might not be very clear.
16:06 oleonard CharlottevL: And the mixup you're experiencing is deliberate on their part, as they want people looking for Koha to find them instead
16:05 jcamins They also made up new version numbers. The current version of Koha is 3.8.2. LibLime Koha is based on 3.1, but is called 4.10.
16:05 jcamins And no one else uses it because there is a welcoming community that has been working very hard on Koha all those years that LibLime was developing their own system.
16:04 jcamins A few months (or years, I can't remember) ago, they released their "LibLime Koha," but it's now very different from Koha.
16:04 jcamins With their own code, and not using new code from the open source Koha project.
16:03 jcamins In 2007 or 2008 or something like that, LibLime started to develop their own "fork" of Koha.
16:02 jcamins (the open source system)
16:02 jcamins LibLime is a company that used to support Koha.
16:02 jcamins Koha is an open source system, developed over the last 13 years.
16:02 CharlottevL thaanks :)
16:02 jcamins If you don't mind a brief history lesson, I'll clarify. :)
16:02 jcamins It's very, very confusing.
16:01 CharlottevL sorry for my stupid questions, you can imagine, how a girl is good in this stuffs... :
16:01 jcamins LibLime is a company.
16:01 CharlottevL yes...
16:01 jcamins CharlottevL: that's "LibLime Koha 4.10."
16:01 CharlottevL it was perfectly working for more than 1 year :( but today i have to change something in conf. file after upgrade...
16:00 CharlottevL there s written koha4.10...
16:00 jcamins CharlottevL: I fear no one here knows how to use that.
16:00 kf Liblime is a US company, they are the only ones supporting this version
15:59 kf ?
15:59 kf CharlottevL: but you said you updated, you have been always using thisß
15:59 kf what he said
15:59 CharlottevL I downloaded this... https://github.com/liblime/LibLime-Koha/downloads
15:59 kf yes
15:59 jcamins CharlottevL: unfortunately, the latest version of Koha is 3.8 not 4.10
15:58 kf version number starting with 4 indicates that you are using Liblime Koha - which is not the same as the Koha we talk about here
15:58 kf CharlottevL: which versiondid you upgrade from?
15:57 CharlottevL I have (i think a small) problem :( I'm using koha for my private library, that I have at home. And today i tried to upgrade it to 4.10. Since that, nothing work :( According to some forum, i tried to check koha-httpd.conf, but I have to write something wrong, because now either LOCALHOST is not working :( Can anybody help?
15:55 CharlottevL Hello everybody.
15:53 tweetbot` Twitter: @JuneVanburen: "#kohails Make sure you I need this!! http://t.co/H3ncG1ZH"
15:25 gaetan_B bye !
15:23 oleonard bbiab
15:21 oleonard The twitter spam
15:21 horseradish /nick alert
15:21 slef oleonard: huh? which spam was that? ;-)
15:19 oleonard And here I thought there was just a sudden surge of interest in Koha on the part of scantily-clad young ladies.
15:17 tweetbot` Twitter: @paul_poulain: "seems that #kohails is spammed. I'm trying to "notify as spam" as fast as possible..."
15:16 eythian OK, those appear to be the only two schema differences that I saw (but I was only testing moving data from one database into one set up with the "proper" schema.)
15:14 * eythian is searching for 'ERROR' in a log
15:14 eythian well that's a relief :)
15:14 eythian <subfield code=\"t\">Error Handling with ONERROR</subfield>
15:09 eythian yeah, I can't remember what version the system I'm testing against got installed as unfortunately, so don't know what version it was set up with.
15:09 kf hm it's not accessible from the client anywhere, maybe we could kill it
15:09 kf hm.
15:09 kf it might have been deleted, should be possible to find out when maybe...
15:09 eythian doesn't mean it's not extracted and used somewhere quite different
15:09 eythian with a quick look, anyway
15:08 eythian kf: I couldn't see any reference in the code.
15:08 kf did you check if discount is currently used?
15:08 eythian the latter probably happened in 3.03.00.006
15:08 jcamins eythian: ooh, sounds fun.
15:08 kf ugh.
15:07 eythian jcamins_away: so far I've found: a 'discount' column in aqorders that doesn't exist in the newer schema, and 'deletedborrowers.cardnumber' never becoming non-null.
14:50 wahanui OK, slef.
14:50 slef wahanui: next meeting is 18 July 2012 at 10:00 UTC+0
14:50 wahanui slef: I forgot next meeting
14:50 slef wahanui: forget next meeting
14:49 oleonard http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_meeting,_18_July_2012
14:48 wahanui slef: huh?
14:48 slef wahanui: I doubt that.
14:48 wahanui next meeting is, like, Wednesday 2012-05-02 02:00:00 +0000
14:48 slef wahanui: next meeting?
14:47 wahanui ...but wahanui is a bot|a repository of important and useful and accurate information or at least partially slow....
14:47 slef wahanui: you are crazy.
14:47 wahanui rumour has it No help for module 'TwitterWatch'. This is a bug
14:47 jcamins_away No help for module 'TwitterWatch'. This?
14:47 jcamins_away No help for module 'TwitterWatch' This?
14:47 wahanui bugger all, i dunno, slef
14:47 slef wahanui: this?
14:47 wahanui i already had it that way, tweetbot`.
14:47 tweetbot` jcamins_away: No help for module 'TwitterWatch'. This is a bug.
14:47 jcamins_away tweetbot`: help twitterwatch
14:47 tweetbot` jcamins_away: Authenticator for admin-level commands. Usage: !adduser <username> <password>, !auth <username> <password>, !password <old password> <new password>, !deluser <username>, !users
14:47 jcamins_away tweetbot`: help auth
14:46 tweetbot` jcamins_away: Ask me for help about: auth, twitterwatch (say 'help <modulename>').
14:46 jcamins_away tweetbot`: help
14:46 slef tweetbot`?
14:46 slef tweetbot?
14:39 oleonard Good for spam-catching. My twitter client has an easy "report for spam" feature.
14:39 kf hm maybe it's only temporary
14:39 jcamins_away Okay, maybe TweetBot wasn't such a good idea.
14:28 kf heh
14:28 eythian http://imgur.com/FnOEw <-- australia
14:27 oleonard What the heck, spammers?
13:26 kf dpavlin: hm, not sure I did a good job explaining the problem
13:20 kf dpavlin: the formula is wrong (math) - I actually have the right algorithm written down here, but I still have to implement it with a system preference in Koha :(
13:20 kf dpavlin: my problem is that you can't hve a weekly fine and a grace period of 2 days
13:19 kf dpavlin: hm I don't think debarring is related to that
13:17 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4906 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, NEW , Problem with grace period calculation and fine intervals >1
13:17 dpavlin kf: I don't undertand enough about bebarring but does this patch fix your Bug 4906 by any chance?
13:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8251 critical, P1 - high, ---, koha, Needs Signoff , Patrons are systematically debarred at checkin
13:16 dpavlin kf: I'm going through them right now. I really like first one in Bug 8251 which is not contraversial (and it did pass QA once, but never landed in master)
13:09 * jcamins heads into the city.
13:08 drojf1 great. at least #kohails is important enough ;)
13:07 drojf1 yes
13:07 oleonard ^^ hashtag spam?
13:06 kf ... so they are waiting for sign off (forgot to finish my sentence, bit busy here today :) )
12:59 kf dpavlin: but there seems no consensus if the attached patches really work or not...
12:58 kf dpavlin: there are lots of bug reports in bugzilla
12:42 jcamins dpavlin: uhhh... better than a false report? :/
12:42 oleonard Sorry jcamins, was afk. Yes, I had a great trip
12:42 dpavlin End of term is comming near, and I got report that renewals aren't working, and guess what, they really don't :-)
12:40 jcamins I've just heard from lots of people that it doesn't.
12:40 jcamins However, I've never tested it.
12:40 jcamins dpavlin: I don't think it works, no.
12:39 dpavlin Oh, and we have a but in day_month_closed_days which swaps days and months so it ignores all repeating entries...
12:38 dpavlin does Koha::Calendar works for people? We have wrong DateTime->truncate( to => 'days') all over the place, we are ignoring holidays which aren't special (why?) and useDaysMode calendar seems to pick dates in future allmost randomly.
12:32 eythian you'd need to write something that can understand SQL, so that ordering differences don't upset it.
12:31 kf I would love to see a unit test for that too btw
12:31 * kf cheers eythian on
12:31 * eythian starts this process over yet again...
12:31 jcamins Yup.
12:31 jcamins You can change that.
12:31 eythian ah, --complete-insert
12:30 eythian arg, so mysqldump doesn't include the column names when it generates insert statements, so if things have been moved around, this'll die.
12:25 jcamins Enjoying yourself?
12:25 jcamins Hehe.
12:25 wahanui i guess i am a repository of important and useful and accurate information or at least partially slow.
12:25 Amit_Gupta heya wahanui
12:25 wahanui well, i am a bot
12:25 Amit_Gupta heya wahanui
12:25 wahanui i am a bot
12:25 Amit_Gupta heya wahanui
12:25 wahanui hmmm... oleonard is still here, if you just wish hard enough. or Koha's master UI designer
12:25 Amit_Gupta heya oleonard
12:20 jcamins Have a nice trip?
12:20 jcamins Good morning.
12:15 oleonard Hi #koha
12:06 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5511 normal, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, amit.gupta, Failed QA , Check for Change in Remote IP address for Session Security. Disable when remote ip address changes frequently.
12:06 Amit_Gupta Bug 5511
12:06 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8415 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, amit.gupta, NEW , Link Serial with Acquisition
12:06 Amit_Gupta Bug 8415
12:06 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7910 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, amit.gupta, Signed Off , Batch renewal of serials and order creation
12:06 Amit_Gupta Bug 7910
11:59 eythian (basically inserting an echo before the insert)
11:59 eythian no, it's something so I know what insert statement caused the failure :)
11:58 jcamins Bonus karma if you turn the plan into a unit test. :)
11:57 eythian I've just thought of a plan to make this easier to figure out. Implementing said plan now
11:55 jcamins Yup.
11:53 eythian which suggests that borrowers schema is also not matching perfectly.
11:52 eythian also: "ERROR 1048 (23000): Column 'cardnumber' cannot be null"
11:52 eythian it would
11:52 jcamins Wouldn't it be nice if we had a unit test that caught that.
11:51 eythian unfortunately, mysql error messages suck, so it's going to take some searching to figure it out.
11:51 jcamins Uh-oh.
11:51 eythian jcamins: so, I think I've found a case where the upgrade schema and the structure schema don't match up properly. Hope to work out what it actually is soon, but I'm getting: "ERROR 1136 (21S01): Column count doesn't match value count at row 1" for something.
11:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4460 blocker, P3, ---, kyle, ASSIGNED , Amazon's AssociateID tag not used in links so referred revenue lost
11:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8235 minor, P5 - low, ---, robin, Pushed to Master , Packaging scripts get upset with non-Debian perl modules
11:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7848 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Issues data missing from circulation notices
11:40 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Revert "Bug 4460 - Amazon's AssociateID tag not used in links so referred revenue lost"
11:40 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Revert "Bug 4460 - Amazon's AssociateID tag not used in links so referred revenue lost - Followup"
11:40 jenkins_koha * robin: Bug 8235 - allow a whitelist of modules that aren't in Debian
11:40 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 7848 - Issues data missing from circulation notices
11:40 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #781: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 3 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/781/
10:59 jcamins It is in the PO files, supposedly.
10:59 rangi nope not even on the translate site
10:58 * rangi heads off to bed
10:58 * jcamins goes out on a limb and guess that Koha is probably not 99% translated into Tamil.
10:58 rangi nope
10:58 jcamins rangi: do you speak Tamil?
10:56 jcamins Heh.
10:55 eythian the internet agrees with me :)
10:55 eythian http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=%22interior+monologue%22&word2=%22inner+monologue%22
10:54 jcamins eythian: http://grammar.about.com/od/il/g/Interior-Monologue.htm
10:54 jcamins I'll check.
10:54 jcamins eythian: I'm pretty sure the phrase is "interior monologue."
10:54 eythian "inner" perhaps? :)
10:53 eythian "interior monologue"?
10:52 jcamins Yup.
10:50 slef cat
10:50 wahanui Myshkin is more than articulate enough without me performing his interior monologue.
10:50 slef Myshkin?
10:44 tux_ no issues slef , one of my friend suggested Epson TM T88IV, i will check this
10:44 rangi there too
10:43 rangi so the translation manager can push directly to their, and we just pull them in as part of the release
10:42 jcamins All these old obsolete PO files are getting in my way.
10:41 rangi not really no, now would be a good time to move them all out into their own repo
10:41 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Revert "Bug 4460 - Amazon's AssociateID tag not used in links so referred revenue... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ba7ac6d3ecc416e2ccf688f11fc2da60eef23916> / Revert "Bug 4460 - Amazon's AssociateID tag not used in links so referred revenue... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d08dbb4582766776332ffcb801373be83fb9d0fc> / Bug 8235 - allow a whitelist of modules
10:40 jcamins rangi: is there a good reason for us to keep the PO files for languages that haven't been translated in years?
10:37 jcamins rangi: yeah, Myshkin had too much to say for me to stay asleep.
10:37 jenkins_koha Starting build #781 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 6 days 19 hr ago)
10:36 rangi jcamins: you're awake early
10:32 slef tux_: not off the top of my head. I laser print onto labels, but I don't label much myself.
10:32 slef http://kingslynn.cyclestreets.net/location/17092/ fun road sign
10:31 jcamins fredericd++
10:31 jcamins o/
10:28 tux_ do you know any good barcode printer which works better with koha ?
10:28 tux_ but we need Biblio/Barcode
10:27 tux_ slef, i have tried another scanner, still not working , but without Biblio its working
10:19 slef damn was just looking for a fun sign I saw on the way. No photos online as far as I can tell. It's on a crossroads and points "Route 1 - Wisbech 10" south, "Route 1 - King's Lynn 5" north and "Route 30 - Lowestoft 98" east :)
10:15 rangi heh
10:09 slef rangi: I was in Wisbech on Saturday for the rose fair. Sunburn on the ride out. Soaked to the skin on the ride back.
10:06 drojf1 kf: yes :)
10:06 drojf1 slef: thanks for the comment, will do
10:00 rangi slef: the black dog was my favourite of the beers
10:00 slef kf: yeah
09:59 * kf is only making sure
09:59 kf slef: and you both know that you have met each other, right?
09:58 drojf1 hm yeah i would prefer huginn used my name and not that part of my mail address
09:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8413 normal, P5 - low, ---, 5p4m, In Discussion , Space in barcode breaks GET request in benchmark_staff.pl
09:58 slef Changes submitted for bug 8413 anyway. Use URI::Escape::uri_escape_utf8
09:57 drojf1 yes i am
09:57 slef yeah still not sure if drojf is 5p4m or not :)
09:57 wahanui drojf is from Germany and developing Koha on a raspberry pi!
09:57 slef wahanui: drojf?
09:57 slef drojf1: you can just trust it or check git log or check git gr if you have it configured, or git diff against the mainline branch you started from
09:56 drojf1 oh, even wahanui does not know me
09:56 drojf1 slef: i wish i knew :)
09:56 wahanui slef: i don't know
09:56 slef wahanui: drojf1?
09:56 drojf1 when i rebase and git applies my patch at the end and does not complain, do i trust it or should i do something for my added syspref or something?
09:55 slef hi drojf1. Who are you? :)
09:55 drojf1 good morning #koha
09:51 wahanui slef: huh?
09:51 slef wahanui: pervert
09:51 wahanui I like *your* figure
09:51 slef wahanui: figures
09:51 wahanui bugger all, i dunno, slef
09:51 slef wahanui: sorry?
09:51 wahanui slef: sorry...
09:51 slef wahanui: good!
09:50 wahanui comments are turned on
09:50 * slef comments
09:50 eythian slef: seems reasonable to me that it should, yeah.
09:50 rangi :)
09:50 rangi yes without looking, yes
09:50 rangi added a new features pushed, and bugs activity to the dashboard
09:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8413 normal, P5 - low, ---, 5p4m, Needs Signoff , Space in barcode breaks GET request in benchmark_staff.pl
09:49 slef latest patch on bug 8413 should use URI::Escape::uri_escape_utf8 instead of regexing, shouldn't it?
09:44 eythian howdy, slef
09:44 slef hi eythian
09:43 eythian hi
08:58 slef tux_: try another barcode scanner, or another barcode generation format? Sounds strange though... maybe something about having the biblio on there is making your printer scale the barcode beyond the scanner's tolerance.
08:53 Amit_Gupta cait around
08:50 tux_ or a printer that supports well in koha
08:49 tux_ any idea about this iisue
08:48 tux_ if printing with only Barcode, then it is reading
08:48 tux_ i have an issue with barcode printing, printer is Zebra S4M , i have generated Biblio/Barcode, but it is not getting read by barcode scanner
08:46 tux_ hi
08:37 Guest2802 i have just checked Zebra S4M , but when printing with Biblio/Barcode it's not reading
08:35 Guest2802 which is the best barcode printer koha supports ?
08:34 wahanui bonjour, tux
08:34 tux hi
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07:21 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #92: FIXED in 1 hr 2 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/92/
07:21 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed!
07:20 Amit_Gupta hello gaetan
07:13 gaetan_B hello :)
07:07 matts hi !
06:39 wahanui que tal, reiveune
06:39 reiveune hello
06:28 huginn alex_a: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 23.0°C (8:00 AM CEST on July 11, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
06:28 alex_a @wunder Marseille
06:18 jenkins_koha Starting build #92 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #90 9 hr 43 min ago)
06:18 jenkins_koha rangi: job koha_3.8.x build scheduled now
06:18 rangi !jenkins build koha_3.8.x now
06:12 alex_a hi cait !
06:12 cait hi alex_a :)
06:12 alex_a bonjour
06:03 cait hi Amit_Gupta
06:00 huginn Amit_Gupta: The current temperature in Bangalore, India is 22.0°C (8:30 AM IST on July 11, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 18.0°C.
06:00 Amit_Gupta @wunder Bangalore
06:00 huginn Amit_Gupta: The current temperature in Dehradun, India is 25.0°C (5:30 AM IST on July 11, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: 24.0°C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa.
06:00 Amit_Gupta @wunder Dehradun
06:00 huginn Amit_Gupta: The current temperature in New Delhi, India is 29.0°C (10:30 AM IST on July 11, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 27.0°C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1002 hPa (Steady).
06:00 Amit_Gupta @wunder New Delhi
06:00 Amit_Gupta heya cait
05:23 huginn Oak: The current temperature in Islamabad, Pakistan is 25.0°C (10:00 AM PKT on July 11, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 22.0°C. Pressure: 28.00 in 948 hPa (Steady).
05:23 Oak @wunder islamabad
05:22 Oak you won't understand it of course... but still
05:22 Oak cait: listen to this song when free: www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0EoMozYWSs
05:19 Oak may God keep him and his loved ones safe.
05:18 Oak rangi++
05:18 Oak geek!
05:18 cait rangi did it
05:18 cait yep :)
05:17 Oak very very nice :)
05:17 cait it's new :)
05:16 Oak doing it now
05:16 * Oak covers his face
05:16 Oak no
05:15 cait Oak. have you seen dashboard.koha-community.org? :)
05:15 cait yep :)
05:14 Oak geek!
04:55 cait the random bug on the dashboard is addictive
04:05 Amit_Gupta heya bag
03:55 Oak morning cait :)
03:55 cait morning Oak :)
03:44 cait morning #koha
03:25 rangi The ones I do monthly are from bugzilla
03:25 rangi That's for releases
03:25 rangi But with config works fine for koha
03:24 rangi It's written by Linux kernel devs for data mining the kernel repo
03:23 rangi gitdm
02:54 jcamins_away Woohoo! The release notes script now automatically generates the list of translations!
02:20 jcamins Never mind. I figured it out. Sort of.
01:30 jcamins /me wishes rangi were around to provide the code for his sign off statistics thing.
01:05 jcamins Is there some programmatic way to find out which languages have been more than 90% translated?
01:04 dcook It looks like someone introduced some javascript at some point..
01:01 dcook Must be
00:59 jcamins dcook: I suspect it's probably a matter of IE not respecting the overrides.
00:59 dcook It seems remedied in Master. I seem to remember someone doing some CSS edits recently
00:58 dcook Although..
00:57 dcook But Chrome and FF must take it into account anyway, while IE does not..
00:57 dcook But hash isn't a comment symbol in CSS, me thinks
00:56 dcook There is a hash before the colour property
00:56 dcook I think I might have it
00:56 jcamins dcook: I imagine very few people have tried it.
00:47 dcook #header a.toplinks does specify #ffffff but this seems to be ignored by Chrome and FF
00:47 dcook Anyone else noticing that the top links on the intranet are white in IE?
00:46 dcook Hola #koha