Time Nick Message 22:39 drojf the cat would love it 22:38 jcamins Also, nowhere to put it. 22:38 jcamins ibeardslee: yeah, that's the problem. 22:38 ibeardslee it'd take a wee while to get a decent 2m length 22:36 drojf time for bed here also, or i really start googleing how to grow an oak. good night 22:35 drojf or just buy it at some diy store and take it in the subway ;) 22:35 drojf i wonder if you could grow a bonsai oak with one crazy 200x2x30cm branch that grows somehow horizontally through your apartment… 22:31 cait at htis time of the day this sounds perfectly reasonable 22:30 jcamins lol 22:30 cait i still favour the grow at home idea :) 22:28 jcamins drojf: oak, though? 22:27 drojf if you lived in berlin i would say steal some at construction site, but that may not be normal everywhere in the world :D 22:27 jcamins lol 22:27 cait people start talking about bricks 22:27 cait I think it's time to sleep 22:27 cait lol 22:26 jcamins Preferably in lots of one or two at a time, since carrying ten bricks might be a bit much. 22:25 jcamins The question is where I can get a small enough number. 22:25 jcamins No, but I only want ~10. 22:25 drojf that does not sound too complicated to get 22:24 jcamins I also need bricks. 22:24 drojf a friend of mine transported a couch in the subway :D 22:24 jcamins Actually, I can get away with a 5' board. 22:23 drojf i carried parts of a bed from ikea home with two buses. that was pretty much 2m 22:22 * jcamins measures the exact length he needs... it's actually probably a bit under 2m. 22:22 jcamins Nope. 22:22 jcamins A....93 m^2 apartment. 22:22 drojf no balcony? ;) 22:21 jcamins A small apartment. 22:21 jcamins drojf: I live in an apartment. 22:21 drojf grow an oak at home 22:21 jcamins 2m is kind of a long board to be carrying around the subway. 22:21 jcamins I wonder exactly how I get a 200x2x30cm piece of oak. 22:21 drojf lol. that said 10 weeks a week or two ago 22:21 drojf Despatch expected in 11 week(s) 22:19 drojf i wonder when they are over that huge backorder thing 22:19 drojf :) 22:18 jcamins I could make a little colony of them under the shelf I'll be putting on my desk. 22:18 jcamins lol 22:18 drojf i think i want a tiny rack and 10 of them :D 22:16 drojf that thing is surprisingly capable 22:16 jcamins Wow. 22:16 jcamins drojf: on your _raspberry pi_? 22:15 huginn drojf: The operation succeeded. 22:15 drojf @later tell eythian i got a mediawiki now as a virtual host next to my koha dev installation on the raspi. i don't see any problems so far, both works as expected 22:06 drojf i would say both ;) 22:06 drojf no that was an idiot with a tuned car 22:06 cait that's not sound sensitive :P 22:06 cait you mean you are very imaginative 22:06 cait lol 22:05 drojf i'm very sound sensitive. i bet i would hear it. i think i can hear it from here :D 22:02 cait hm. well or 1? there is one complete floor in between 22:01 cait and the next bedroom is 2 floors upstairs 22:01 drojf i bet the guy upstairs thinks the same 22:01 cait living on the lowest floor 22:01 cait ah, I don#t think you can hear that 22:00 drojf washing at midnight… you must have happy neighbours ;) 21:59 cait waiting for the washing machine... 21:59 cait tired 21:55 slef how are you? 21:46 slef bit better 21:46 cait howa re you doing? 21:45 slef hi cait 21:45 huginn slef: The current temperature in Holbeach, United Kingdom is 15.0°C (9:50 PM BST on July 02, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Rising). 21:45 slef @wunder Holbeach 21:45 cait hi slef 21:45 huginn slef: The current temperature in Weston-Super-Mare, United Kingdom is 14.4°C (10:40 PM BST on July 02, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). 21:45 slef @wunder Weston-super-Mare SOMERSET 20:52 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 17.8°C (10:50 PM CEST on July 02, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady). 20:52 cait @wunder Konstanz 20:51 wizzyrea sun sun sun sun sun 20:51 wizzyrea you should see the forecast - nothing but sun 20:50 huginn wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 35.4°C (3:49 PM CDT on July 02, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 41%. Dew Point: 20.0°C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1013 hPa (Falling). 20:50 wizzyrea @wunder lawrence ks 20:47 drojf heh 20:46 jcamins 5pm. 20:46 huginn jcamins: The current temperature in Cordoba, Argentina is 7.0°C (5:00 PM ART on July 02, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Steady). 20:46 jcamins @wunder cordoba, argentina 20:46 drojf what time is it now in argentina? seems like voters are getting up ;) 20:43 cait it#s like that here all day 20:43 cait ah 20:43 cait 63 - votes going up fast 20:43 eythian it gets muggy 20:42 cait warmish muggy thing? 20:41 eythian it's doing that warmish muggy thing it always seems to do in the evening now. 20:41 eythian heh 20:41 drojf ;) 20:41 drojf eythian: is the weather that bad? ;9 20:41 eythian It's fairly necessary to finish this today 20:39 cait ouch 20:39 eythian I am 20:39 cait eythian: hope you are not still working? 20:38 cait ;) 20:38 cait yeah, but what you do is exaggerating 20:38 cait is there any place better? 20:38 eythian it's what I do ;) 20:38 cait smething like that :) 20:37 drojf kohacon holiday? :) 20:33 cait US might be doable on my own 20:32 drojf all places are highly unlikely for me this time ;) 20:32 drojf jcamins: i would do that too 20:32 jcamins drojf: I figure I voted to have it in places I couldn't go to for the last three years, time to vote so that I can go. :) 20:32 drojf yeah 20:31 rangi well it cant be us again next year, if it wins this year, so maybe 2014 20:29 drojf needs more koha in africa before a kohacon there i guess 20:29 drojf salsa: i read a few times that US people rather vote for a kohacon they could actually attend, which is perfectly ok 20:28 rangi heh 20:28 drojf no i voted long ago, i just keep refreshing the window 20:28 rangi was 56 votes when I did 20:28 salsa I think Africa's time will come, maybe 2013 was just too soon. 20:27 rangi did you just vote? 20:26 drojf hmm. not much love for kohacon in nigeria 19:35 * rangi goes to feed the kids 19:17 cait morning rangi 19:15 wahanui hey, eythian 19:15 eythian hi 19:14 rangi morning 18:43 * cait cheers for eythian :) 18:35 eythian next up: circulation. This won't be an easy one. 18:35 eythian OK, borrowers can be merged now. That at least was easy. 18:27 SJeffery That is just....mean 18:26 cait lol 18:25 eythian maybe we should enforce attaching a MARC record to each one then ;) 18:25 jcamins Only if you give them useful descriptions and names. 18:25 cait eythian: but it requires to give them a good name and maybe a good description too :) 18:25 eythian ah right 18:25 cait eythian: you can search them 18:24 SJeffery librarians are all insane anyway 18:23 eythian maybe we need a search engine on reports :) 18:22 wizzyrea can't find that one report? just recreate it! 18:22 wizzyrea well that and lack of cleanup 18:22 wizzyrea it's kind of insanity 18:22 eythian I was amazed by how much libraries love their reports. 18:22 cait that's a lot! 18:21 cait saved reports?? 18:21 wizzyrea we have over 1k 18:21 * wizzyrea would get a dump of her production saved reports just to test that 18:20 wahanui i heard huginn was a bot too veera, not a person 18:20 jcamins huginn? 18:20 wahanui cait? 18:20 cait wahanui? 18:20 cait bug 7993? 18:20 jcamins Bug 7993. I was encouraging wizzyrea to test it. 18:20 cait back :) 18:20 wizzyrea whoa 18:20 cait huh? :) 18:19 jcamins Your librarians will love you forever if you do. 18:18 wizzyrea hmmm 18:18 jcamins It looks promising, but I simply don't have the expertise to say that it works properly. 18:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7993 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , saved report with hierarchies 18:18 jcamins wizzyrea: you should test bug 7993. 18:12 eythian jcamins: that's good. 18:07 * jcamins resists the urge to mark it a blocker. 18:02 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7818 critical, P1 - high, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , support DOM mode for Zebra indexing of bibliographic records 18:02 jcamins The patch on bug 7818 works! 18:02 jcamins Woohoo! 18:02 wizzyrea yea, sounds hawt. 18:02 jcamins Excellent! 18:01 eythian hmm, I think this merge script is going to result in them having slightly cleaner data, they have a lot of multiply-catalogued entries, and it'll skip those on the new stuff, preferring to attach items to already existing records. 18:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2060 enhancement, P3, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Ability to import Authorities from Staff Client 18:01 jcamins Not the code on bug 5332. But I needed the revert, so I wrote almost identical code for bug 2060. 18:00 eythian heh 18:00 jcamins Oh, I wrote it. 17:59 jcamins I mean, I just looked, it isn't, but I have used the scripts to revert. 17:59 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5332 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Add batch reversion capability to bin/commit_biblios_file.pl 17:59 jcamins Weird... I swear bug 5332 is already in commit_biblios_file.pl. 17:58 kf trying to get home before the rain starts again 17:58 kf bbl 17:57 jcamins I'd prefer no blame, thanks all the same. 17:57 jcamins eythian: right. 17:57 kf heh :) 17:57 eythian ) 17:57 eythian (I assume that's the version your packages are building with, is it? 17:56 eythian well, I don't think so, but if you want some blame, I'm sure it can be arranged :) 17:56 kf jcamins: why should it be you? :) 17:56 jcamins But it's not something _I_ did? 17:55 jcamins Okay. 17:55 eythian I think just that rangi forgot to bump the version number is all. 17:55 jcamins eythian: any idea why 3.8.x thinks it is 3.8.1.2? 17:55 eythian yeah 17:54 jcamins Ouch. 17:52 eythian we got given weeks-old data for a go live, instead of current stuff, so I need something so that when I'm given the current data I can load it in without messing too much up. 17:52 eythian it just needs to be done today 17:52 eythian for my case it doesn't have to be perfect. 17:52 eythian jcamins: it just checks a whole bunch of things, starts with item barcodes, then title+author, then abstract, then just title, if they all fail it considers it a new biblio 17:51 jcamins How do you do it? 17:51 jcamins eythian: ooh. That sounds pretty cool. 17:51 eythian on the other hand, I now have a script that'll do a bit of a job at merging MARC and items into a live database when there's nothing consistent to match on. 17:50 jcamins eythian: good news for you is that my day started at 11:30 so you'll have company. ;) 17:50 jcamins eythian: uh-oh. 17:50 * eythian is expecting a late night at this rate :/ 17:49 jcamins lamiette++ 17:48 kf lamiette++ :) 17:48 eythian jcamins: stacey == lamiette 17:48 kf oh cool :) 17:45 jcamins Stacey++ # for actually writing the tests. 17:45 jcamins kf: I just signed off on them. 17:45 kf tests for items.pm 17:45 kf jcamins++ 17:39 huginn salsa: The operation succeeded. 17:39 salsa @later tell oak you may need to install the non-free drivers with Mint, but that almost always works for me to get wifi going with Broadcom chipsets. 17:35 nengard I'll add that 17:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8346 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , batch export marc using file of bib numbers 17:35 nengard bug 8346 17:35 nengard oh ? yeah 17:34 jcamins If you're transferring a large collection to another library, scan the barcodes of each item you're transferring prior to putting it in the box. 17:33 jcamins List of barcodes. 17:33 nengard what else? 17:32 nengard and if it's a dup someone will find it eventually :) 17:32 jcamins You know what else would be useful? 17:32 nengard then i'm gonna report it now 17:32 jcamins nengard: that'd be really useful, but I have no recollection of you mentioning it before. 17:31 nengard I can't find it 17:31 nengard looking for an enhancement i thought i reported - asking that the marc export tool let you load a file of bib numbers to export ? anyone know if I actuallyr eported that or if I dreamt it? 17:24 Oak me reboot and try Mint now... hoping my wifi will work on it. Debian 6.0.5 does not pick my wifi chip BCM43227... spent whole Sunday trying to make it work and make Fn keys work... no dice. if Mint also does not work, then Siduction.... 17:20 Oak your'e welcome 17:20 kf thx :) 17:19 jcamins :) 17:19 jcamins kf: we're hoping that your work is saved first. 17:19 kf I am working with powerpoint on a presentation... chances are already not so good 17:19 kf please don't 17:19 kf heh 17:19 jcamins :) 17:19 * Oak prays kf computer hangs so she goes home 17:18 Oak plus, a hug for jcamins ! 17:18 Oak jcamins++ 17:17 jcamins And I find myself wondering how I ever lived without this feature. 17:17 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8208 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Add "create authority" button to auth_finder plugin 17:17 jcamins Bug 8208 is ready for signoff. 17:16 kf jcamins++ :) 17:12 tcohen kf, yes 17:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8208 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED , Add "create authority" button to auth_finder plugin 17:08 jcamins bug 8208 is almost done. 17:08 * jcamins has a gift for catalogers everywhere... 17:02 tcohen oh, i think it doesnt 17:02 kf I can't say much about the code really - but it should be testable? 17:02 kf nt sure if it solves the problem 17:02 tcohen kf: not sure about dirations working as expecte4d? 17:01 kf hm if not sure - why don't test it? 17:01 tcohen if it simplifies the math, better then 17:01 tcohen i'm not against making days_between return an integer instead of a duration object, thou 17:00 tcohen but I belive durations should work as expected 16:59 tcohen i'm not sure 16:58 kyleh_ tcohen: honestly I am not sure. I just hopeing julian would weigh in on it. 16:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8110 blocker, P1 - high, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , Fines accruing on closed days 16:57 tcohen kyleh_: do u think that patch solves bug 8110 ? 16:57 kf now we only have to make me listen to the two of you .) 16:57 Oak :) 16:57 jcamins kf: see, I don't have to worry about telling you when it's time to go home, because Oak arrives right when it's time for you to go home every day. :) 16:56 kf Oak: not yet 16:56 huginn Oak: The current temperature in Islamabad, Pakistan is 38.0°C (9:00 PM PKT on July 02, 2012). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 27%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.44 in 997 hPa (Falling). 16:56 Oak @wunder islamabad 16:56 Oak kia ora #koha 16:56 Oak time to go home kf 16:43 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7189 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , preference to control if returning lost items gives refund 16:43 kyleh_ bug 7189 needs sign-off 16:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3383 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , Item due reminder digests - cannot display title information 16:21 kyleh_ Sign off need on bug 3383, yet another minor followup patch. 16:04 * gaetan_B going home too ! 15:59 * drojf goes home 15:57 gaetan_B ok it turns out it's another bug so i've opened a new ticket : BZ8345 15:53 gaetan_B jcamins: hmm now that i know where it's coming from , maybe then... 15:53 Waylon okay thats me, night all 15:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3216 normal, P2, ---, frederic, Pushed to Stable , UNIMARC author facets 15:50 jcamins gaetan_B: isn't that what bug 3216 was supposed to fix? 15:49 gaetan_B because in unimarc the different part of the names are stored in different subfields 15:49 gaetan_B limit=au,wrdl: instead of limit=au: does the trick 15:49 drojf actually it does not do the same, the sorting is different 15:48 jcamins drojf: CCL. 15:48 * gaetan_B got hdl to work his magic on this 15:47 drojf it does the same for me, maybe it works for gaetan_B 15:47 drojf what is the plus of limit over just another &idx=au&q=Baddock anyway? 15:46 kf jcamins: do you know how limits work? could there be something missing in zebra configuration for that? 15:44 drojf yes thats really weird 15:42 kf but it works for me and the link is totally similar for marc21 :( 15:42 kf perhaps it#s the limit? 15:41 gaetan_B "au:Baddock and au:Barry" works too, and they all give the same result 15:41 kf hmpf. 15:40 gaetan_B kf: yes 15:40 kf in keyword search? 15:40 kf gaetan_B: does a search for au:b. Baddock work? 15:39 kf but I think jcamins would do a great job :) because he always does 15:39 kf drojf: only joking 15:39 gaetan_B well in the search results i can click on the author next to the title and it will find results (the link looks like that : /opac-search.pl?q=au:B.%20Baddock) but the facet is not finding anything (and its link looks like this :/opac-search.pl?idx=kw&q=bad&limit=au:Baddock,%20Barry) 15:39 jcamins :) 15:39 kf heh 15:39 kf drojf: and while you are on it... I heard he could fix availability too! 15:39 drojf if i had enough money for that i would probably just try it myself 15:39 * jcamins likes this plan a lot! 15:39 jcamins :D 15:39 kf drojf: file an enh request and pay jcamins to make it work? :P 15:39 jcamins Yeah, making facets work with authorities would be a very good idea. 15:39 kf oh yes, they totally should 15:39 drojf oh. maybe they should 15:39 kf which is another problem... 15:39 kf never have 15:39 kf drojf: but I tink facets don't use the authnumbers :( 15:39 gaetan_B yes 15:39 drojf are the authors linked to authorities? 15:39 gaetan_B and i agree it shouldn't be left here if it's not working 15:39 drojf gaetan_B: yes. that should not be the case 15:39 gaetan_B drojf: yes i guess i could do this fairly easily with jquery, but the author facet not working is another problem 15:39 kf it's a bit embarassing the way it is :( only pretending 15:39 kf we should kill it or make it work 15:39 kf i agree 15:39 drojf i guess i will go with not showing the option. i was able to customize facets for us so that should work 15:39 gaetan_B fixing this is probably way above my technical skills unfortunately :-/ 15:39 drojf sometimes. sounds like at every second full moon in a leap year 15:30 * jcamins would love to see it repaired, but it's a bit too complicated to do in my free time. 15:30 drojf jcamins: lol 15:30 jcamins gaetan_B: if you only have one copy of each book, it works sometimes. 15:30 drojf yeah we should either repair it or disable it then 15:30 gaetan_B oh i didn't know it never worked, that's embarassing 15:29 * jcamins doesn't know why we have it, to be honest. 15:29 drojf good. or not 15:29 gaetan_B drojf: same problem with availability 15:29 drojf ok 15:29 jcamins Never has. 15:29 jcamins drojf: the availability limit doesn't work. 15:29 drojf maybe it was that 15:29 drojf even though in my result list there are plenty 15:29 drojf i get no hit for evailable records from the facets 15:28 gaetan_B ah good for you then ;) 15:28 drojf hm but cannot reproduce it. seems all good now 15:28 gaetan_B drojf: ahah... this gets interesting! 15:27 drojf gaetan_B: i think i have seen something like that with one of our facets, we use marc21 15:27 jcamins I'm not sure I have enough data, though. 15:27 jcamins gaetan_B: no, but once I get my day started (bit of a late start today) I can pull up my UNIMARC install and see if I can test it. 15:26 gaetan_B i'm wondering if it's something i did, or if something is really broken ;) 15:25 gaetan_B hmm jcamins are you using unimarc ? 15:25 jcamins gaetan_B: that's a problem! Not something I've encountered, though. 15:25 * gaetan_B will open a ticket in BZ 15:24 gaetan_B people with other settings than unimarc don't seem to have this problem 15:24 gaetan_B jcamins: what i noticed in my recent installs is that the facet is correctly generated, but once you click on it, you don't get any result 15:23 jcamins Yeah, that's the one I had in mind. 15:23 gaetan_B that's something else 15:23 gaetan_B jcamins: BZ3216 ? 15:23 jcamins By fredericd. 15:22 jcamins gaetan_B: wasn't there a patch to fix author facets in UNIMARC? 15:21 gaetan_B the author one at least 15:21 gaetan_B i feel like they are really broken in unimarc 15:21 gaetan_B kf: o/, did you get to try the facets on a 3.8 ? 15:19 kf wow 15:14 eythian vim regex for today, reverse a hash in perl (at least, the hash I was working with just now): s/^\s*\(\w\+\)\s*=>\s*'\(\w\+\)',/\2 => '\1',/ 15:13 eythian (which would also be odd) 15:13 eythian unless it's pulling something that has a 32-bit name 15:13 eythian but I don't know why it would be 15:13 eythian tcohen: that seems odd 15:07 tcohen anyone knows why does 'dpkg --set-selections < install_misc/ubuntu.packages' pull i386 stuff? 15:06 drojf eythian: i'll let you know when/if i find the time to try it 15:05 drojf [off] i tried to get a wiki or 4 months now, before our it drives me insane completely i'd rather do it myself 15:05 eythian I'd be interested to find out 15:04 drojf eythian: ok, i'll probably just try in a virtual machine and see what happens 15:04 libsysguy o/ 15:04 eythian drojf: I've not checked for a while, but last I tried it didn't look like it was going to work. 15:03 drojf eythian: sorry, got distracted from the mediawiki question. mod_php on apache-mpm-itk seems to be ok, or would that have become a problem at a later point? the article is from 2008 http://www.debianadmin.com/running-vhosts-with-apache2-mpm-itk-on-debian.html 14:54 drojf the interwebs is a scary place 14:54 drojf also i think there is not really a law that forbids ip logging in general?! what do i know what happens on some guy's webserver 14:54 Waylon right. 14:53 kf what drojf said and there are servers outside of germany and all that 14:53 kf that's not exactly true I fear 14:53 drojf heh they do anyway. and google does because they all use it in one or the other way. and facebook. and twitter 14:53 kf lol 14:52 Waylon the good thing though, is they don't log your ip address. they're not allowed to. 14:52 Waylon this possibly means that your trusted german websites, know all your passwords, drojf 14:48 drojf scary :( 14:47 drojf lalalalalalala 14:47 drojf omg i dont want to know that 14:47 Waylon drojf, "The length of the password is typically limited, if stored unencrypted, because the database table was defined with a certainl length for this field. Maybe even worse: If you are not told about it, your password maybe truncated "silently"." http://software-security.sans.org/blog/2009/05/29/how-can-i-tell-if-my-password-is-encrypted 14:44 Waylon sounds like they're being md5'ed or something, only, drojf 14:44 Waylon eep 14:42 drojf kyleh_: i read that article too a while ago. funny thing is, i am very often not allowed to use long passwords. it seems like in germany admins love a password length of exactly 8 characters for some reason 14:30 kyleh_ this was from a time before smartphones existed. Don't know if he still does it. 14:28 kf must be hard on mobile phones 14:27 kyleh_ I know someone who uses non-printing characters in passwords. He types it by holding down a meta-key and typing the character code. 14:26 nengard I tried to change all mine to match what they said in this article, but couldn't 14:26 nengard and they require you to throw in special characters and numbers 14:26 nengard I read that too Kyle, but not all sites let you use spaces ? which is annoying 14:24 kyleh_ I also read http://lifehacker.com/5796816/why-multiword-phrases-make-more-secure-passwords-than-incomprehensible-gibberish 14:18 Waylon salts also need to be random. 14:16 * kyleh_ uses self-salted passwords for security. If my password was 'MyPassword', his gmail password would be 'MyPasswordGma', and his yahoo password would be 'MyPasswordYah', that way if a site is broken in to, and the attacker brute-forces passwords, the password cannot be used to access his accounts on a different site. 14:15 Waylon wow, #koha is really 24/7] 14:15 * wizzyrea waves 14:14 Waylon kyleh_, your pasword sucks and you need to go change it. 14:14 * kyleh_ mashed the keyboard a couple times ; )= 14:14 Waylon kyleh_, 14:14 Waylon uhh.. 14:06 kyleh_ serd3432 14:06 kyleh_ bil..392 13:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8130 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , attach PDF files to a patron record 13:55 jenkins_koha paul.poulain: Bug 8130 follow-up, removing duplicate tab 13:55 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #771: SUCCESS in 49 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/771/ 13:46 samuel hi kf 13:45 kf samuel 13:45 kf hi sameul 13:43 samuel hi everybody 13:39 mtj ^^ 13:39 Herwig ow i try 13:38 mtj $ sudo passwd koha 13:38 mtj Herwig: you can al ways just reset that unix password... 13:38 kf Herwig: what asks? 13:36 Herwig hmz it asks the koha password but there are manny passwords 13:33 drojf Date submitted 1980-01-01 00:00:00 <- i travelled way back in time to vote for kohacon 2013 13:28 Herwig ok ehm 13:26 mtj Herwig: -> http://paste.koha-community.org/10 13:26 pastebot "mtj" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "zebra" (4 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/10 13:26 nengard ttyl 13:26 nengard okay time to take the car to the shop 13:25 kf Herwig: you were in Edinburgh? now I am wondering... who you are :) 13:23 Herwig thats what i normally say ... hey thats my line 13:22 kf Herwig: there is no wrong :) 13:21 Herwig i dont dare to vote :) maybe i pick the wrong one 13:21 nengard http://koha-community.org/kohacon-2013-voting-open/ 13:20 Herwig ok i sudo vi'ed the etc/environment http://users.telenet.be/webwijzer/koha/3.jpg 13:18 drojf thanks 13:18 drojf nengard++ 13:18 nengard and I'll close the voting in 2 weeks 13:18 nengard It's posted 13:14 drojf for voting that is 13:13 drojf i'd say 2 weeks from when your mail hits the list? 13:13 drojf nengard: please do 13:13 mtj Herwig: you dont have yr env. vars set correctly 13:13 nengard drojf I think you asked me to publish the survey at the end of last week ? is that the case? 13:13 Herwig 2012 was good fun :O) 13:12 nengard I have the survey ready for kohacon2013 - am I supposed to send that out? 13:12 Herwig http://users.telenet.be/webwijzer/koha/ ... just did do 01 and 2 see image any tips ... (trying to get the search working) 13:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4118 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , Add Collection Code to Statistics Table 13:07 kyleh_ bug 4118 needs sign-off, another quick followup patch. 13:06 jenkins_koha Starting build #771 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 13:05 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_8130' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3764884eae5a4e222639be1a97e47194ef61940a> / Bug 8130 follow-up, removing duplicate tab <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0294f5e1670c3d351b7d98b058c05b081a00cebf> 13:04 tcohen is there a script for finding unused preferences? 13:02 tcohen drojf: apache2 -l 12:59 drojf hm not sure 12:59 eythian apache2-mpm-itk won't work with mod_php I think 12:58 eythian drojf: what apache are you using? 12:58 drojf :) 12:58 drojf eythian: on what? 12:58 eythian drojf: depends. 12:58 eythian yeah 12:58 tcohen koha-l10n-es-ES ¿ 12:58 eythian really it just needs testing which I haven't had time for. 12:58 eythian there's been some work on making it part of the packages 12:58 drojf are there any objections to running a mediawiki on our koha server? 12:57 eythian tcohen: at the moment by hand 12:57 tcohen eythian, after upgrading your packages, do u regenerate the translations? what's the workflow? 12:55 Herwig very nice to point it out thx already 12:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4460 normal, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, reed, Needs Signoff , Amazon's AssociateID tag not used in links so referred revenue lost 12:55 kyleh_ bug 4460 needs sign-off, it's just a quick and easy follow up patch 12:54 Herwig ok i did put the 3 lines in dont know how i skipped that 12:54 eythian I just use koha-rebuild-zebra and such :) 12:53 tcohen I actually have wrapper scripts for every command I run as we have several koha instances in same servers 12:52 * tcohen agrees with eythian 12:51 * eythian has to get back to focussing on work now 12:51 eythian though, I'd be reluctant to globally modify PERL5LIB 12:51 tcohen mornin #koha 12:50 eythian that's probably a better option. 12:50 tcohen eythian: your'e right! I should change that wiki page :-P 12:49 eythian tcohen: but you're adding to confusion by deviating from the instructions :) 12:49 tcohen eythian: yes, my suggestion might help for running from command line 12:49 eythian http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_Ubuntu#Install_Koha <-- step 3 after this 12:48 eythian the instructions say to put them in the cron file, you have to do that. 12:48 tcohen PERL5LIB=/usr/share/koha/lib 12:48 tcohen KOHA_CONF=/etc/koha/koha-conf.xml 12:48 tcohen try putting this lines in /etc/environment 12:48 Herwig no ... i did read that in the help on koha site but i dont know how to define them 12:47 kf there are 2 lines on top where you might have to change the paths 12:47 eythian also, is PERL5LIB defined in the cron file? 12:47 eythian is it defined in the cron file? 12:47 eythian the problem is that KOHA_CONF is not defined 12:47 tcohen which I did 12:47 kf are the paths correct for your system? 12:47 eythian yes, you will 12:47 tcohen don't forget the 'sudo' 12:46 Herwig if i do the PERL5LIB=/usr/share/koha /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -a -b -r -v -v i get error 12:46 tcohen but you're running from cmnd line now, right? 12:46 Herwig i did 12:46 kf Herwig: are you using the example crontab file? 12:45 eythian which will be the next error 12:45 eythian also KOHA_CONF 12:45 eythian but equally importantly, is PERL5LIB defined somewhere in the cron file 12:45 tcohen PERL5LIB=/usr/share/koha /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -a -b -r -v -v 12:45 eythian oh 12:45 Herwig i'm still learning sorry 12:44 Herwig inboop@TEMPLINUX:/$ sudo /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -a -b -r -v -v Can't locate C4/Context.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.1 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebr 12:43 eythian /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -a -b -r -v -v 12:43 eythian you do: 12:42 eythian no 12:42 Herwig wait i do ./usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -a -b -z 2>&1 > /dev/null ??? 12:42 Herwig i'm forced using it ;) 12:41 eythian oh, don't use windows, it makes that easier. 12:41 eythian what happens when you run it by hand, but stick some -v -v on the end and get rid of the 2>&1 > .. bit 12:41 Herwig its hars to copy in a linux box under windows 12:41 Herwig 1 * * * * koha /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -a -b -z 2>&1 > /dev/null 12:41 Herwig no 12:40 Herwig i copied the first url from web ;) 12:40 eythian does it really end at '-a' because that would explain your problem. 12:40 Herwig i did 12:40 Herwig 1 * * * * koha /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -a 12:40 kf mglavica: you can search for koha in lib web cats with a registered account - but I always tell people to be cautious with the numbers 12:40 eythian you need to replace $KOHAPATH with your path to koha 12:39 Herwig i used http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_Ubuntu 12:39 Herwig 1 * * * * koha $KOHAPATH/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -a -b -z 2>&1 > /dev/null 12:39 Herwig sudo vi /etc/cron.d/koha 12:38 Herwig found it 12:36 eythian I would recommend doing it however it says in the instructions. 12:34 Herwig first i did put it in sudo crontab -l (did not work) ...but i used a koha user aftherwards but how do i find that again :OP searching 12:27 Herwig just a sec did it last week 12:27 Herwig wait i go and find the cron job 12:26 eythian 39 :) 12:26 Herwig or is it 39 ;) 12:26 Herwig i imported a few files from z38.50 12:26 eythian It's that cron job that adds things to the zebra index 12:26 eythian and you have set up the rebuild_zebra cron job? 12:25 eythian you do have things catalogued? 12:25 eythian well that looks promising. 12:25 Herwig 12472 ? Ss 0:00 daemon --name=koha-zebra-ctl.koha --errlog=/var/log/koha/koha-zebradaemon.err --stdout=/var/log/koha/koha-zebradaemon.log --output=/var/log/koha/koha-zebradaemon-output.log --verbose=1 --respawn --delay=30 --user=koha koha -- /usr/bin/zebrasrv -v none,fatal,warn -f /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml 12473 ? S 0:00 /usr/bin/zebrasrv 12:24 eythian OK. Do a 'ps ax|grep zebra' and see if it says you have zebrasrv running 12:23 Herwig also folowed the readme file 12:23 Herwig ubuntu + koha instructions 12:23 eythian there are many instructions on the web 12:23 Herwig 3.81 + zebra followed the instructions on the web 12:22 eythian Herwig: how did you install it, and what version are you running? 12:22 Herwig is there annyone here who knows how to get the search engine in koha working ? i installed it but search results 0 12:20 Herwig Hey all 12:18 eythian I usually say ~1,000 as that's fairly confirmable, but it's impossible to be sure, and there are bound to be many more. 12:16 drojf its on archive.org, you could just watch it if nobody else is around that knows 12:16 mglavica thnx 12:15 drojf i think rangi said something like millions of downloads. and a lot more than the ~1000 that libwebcats knows of. i think he said 4000 in his talk? 12:15 mglavica some rough estimation please 12:14 mglavica does somebody know how many installations of Koha there are arround the world? 12:13 drojf hi mglavica :) 12:13 mglavica hi 12:06 drojf hi #koha 11:03 eythian so, it'll have to use ISBN or whatever for matching, and then items barcodes for for them. 11:02 eythian OK, I think I'm going to have to do this the hard way and make a smart script. I can't just filter on ISBN, as that'll drop any new items. 11:01 Waylon okay, afk. dishes :( 11:00 Waylon HAHA! fantastic! 11:00 wahanui hmmm... 2 weeks is not good nor bad, but thinking makes it so. 11:00 Waylon 2 weeks! 11:00 wahanui OK, Waylon. 11:00 Waylon wahanui, 2 weeks is not good nor bad, but thinking makes it so. 11:00 wahanui Waylon: I forgot 2 weeks 11:00 Waylon wahanui, forget 2 weeks 11:00 wahanui ...but 2 weeks is not good... 11:00 Waylon wahanui, 2 weeks is not good nor bad, but thinking makes it so. 10:59 eythian 2 weeks isn't bad in this case. 10:59 Waylon hahah 10:59 wahanui 2 weeks is, like, not good 10:59 Waylon 2 weeks! 10:59 eythian not the end of the world though 10:58 eythian hrm, looks like an error in my circ import, it sets the issue date to "today", rather than the transaction date from the source. 10:56 wahanui okay, kf. 10:56 kf no wahanui, 2 weeks is not good 10:56 wahanui 2 weeks is good 10:56 kf 2 weeks! 10:56 eythian looks like the circ data we got was only 2 weeks old, too. 10:55 eythian yeah 10:55 rangi they can deal with them tomorrow when we have the missing sstuff in hopefully 10:55 rangi yep 10:54 eythian but that should be OK 10:54 eythian oh, I checked logs. They're putting stuff aside that's not in the catalogue, so we can't rely on that for the data we have 10:53 kf :) 10:53 rangi but happily the byproduct is we can use them in this case :) 10:53 rangi and then you track what people have been reading 10:53 eythian yeah 10:53 rangi the idea being, you return things before you shelve them 10:52 rangi they are a return when the item is not out 10:52 eythian OK cool 10:52 rangi yup 10:52 eythian oh right, so any of those can be treated like a return? 10:52 rangi the ones marked localuse in statistics 10:51 rangi so yep, those are the ones not on issue 10:51 rangi 143 of those 10:51 eythian that is, didn't recognise the barcode 10:51 eythian I thought they put aside any that the system didn't know about 10:51 rangi it goes in as localuse 10:51 rangi if it wasnt issued 10:50 rangi so if they just return them tomorrow it should be ok 10:50 rangi yep, but they put aside any that said they werent out 10:50 eythian lets see how old our circ data is anyway 10:50 eythian actually 10:49 eythian (which makes sense) 10:49 eythian Yeah, if there was no circ data, the return didn't go into the statistics 10:48 eythian the item number are only in the stats table if koha new they were issued, I think. 10:48 rangi id be inclined to leave them, just do the ones we know about from statistics, more likely make a mess otherwise 10:48 rangi so it shouldnt be many at all 10:47 rangi for all the ones that were actually returned, and they started putting the others aside 10:47 rangi well the itemnumbers are in the statistics table 10:47 eythian and some of it with guesswork 10:46 eythian too late for me now, it means I can't fix this data properly. At least some of it will have to be done by hand. 10:46 rangi needs signoff 10:46 rangi theres a bug for that 10:43 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8217 minor, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Focus on search box in Detail page (staff search) 10:43 jenkins_koha jonathan.druart: Bug 8217: Followup: move code to the document.ready function 10:43 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #79: SUCCESS in 53 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/79/ 10:43 eythian grr, so the action logs contain the biblionumber of a returned item, but not the item number. 10:30 rangi but it contains all the db updates, .. actually there havent been any since, so the only change will be a manual bump 10:28 rangi yep i just forgot to bump it before release, it'll catch up at 3.8.3 (wasnt worth doing a new release for) 10:17 eythian asaurat: I've seen the same thing, I think it's OK 10:16 asaurat hi rangi: is the version number of Koha ok ? I made an update toward the v3.8.2 tag and in "About Koha" I see "3.08.01.002" 10:05 huginn 04Bug 5644: critical, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , dropbox mode doesn't set the correct date 10:05 rangi http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5644#c10 10:05 rangi inverse does not work that way 10:04 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8251 critical, P1 - high, ---, koha, Needs Signoff , Patrons are systematically debarred at checkin 10:04 rangi hmm bug 8251 09:50 jenkins_koha Starting build #79 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 09:36 matts hi! 09:36 eythian hiya 09:35 * kf waves at matts and eythian 09:34 marcelr ok thx 09:34 matts marcelr, now, yes :) 09:33 eythian Hmm, I might have to have a go at writing a Unity lens for Koha at some stage. 09:32 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7412 enhancement, P3, ---, matthias.meusburger, Signed Off , Pre-filling items in cataloguing 09:32 marcelr matts: did you see the questions on bug 7412 ? 08:55 marcelr paul_p: ok thx 08:54 paul_p marcelr we're at a meeting for 20 more minuts 08:54 marcelr thx hdl 08:54 marcelr ok 08:53 hdl marcelr: jonathan is there... But at the moment in a meeting 08:47 marcelr paul_p: jonathan at work today? or on irc? 08:43 rangi when someone complains, just say "send a patch then" its suprisingly cathartic :) 08:39 gaetan_B but i do like them a lot :-[ 08:39 wahanui what's up, eythian 08:39 eythian hello 08:39 rangi morning eythian 08:39 gaetan_B rangi: not everyone shares this opinion ;) 08:35 rangi they are good icons 08:32 rangi heh 08:32 wahanui it has been said that gaetan_B is working at Biblibre and did the nice new start page together with asaurat or a fan of icons 08:32 rangi heya gaetan_B 08:32 gaetan_B hello ! 08:31 rangi most of the time it is :) 08:30 mle it looks like a lovely place you live 08:30 mle hehe 08:29 rangi its always a suprise when you give someone your card, and they actually pass it on :) 08:29 rangi i got an email from norrie's cousin yesterday actually, who is in wellington at the moment 08:29 mle hey rangi 08:29 rangi excellent 08:29 mle rangi whne you tweeted about Manran I had been listening to the gig recording. nice timing. 08:28 rangi heya mle! 08:28 * mle waves 08:27 rangi heh 08:25 * mle forgets whatever it was the kf mentioned 08:22 kf ok, forget I mentioned it 08:21 * rangi doesnt want to get involved in this discussion :) 08:21 kf why not use an existing one? maybe a good place to start introducing? 08:21 kf hm 08:20 rangi i think we are building our own? 08:20 kf do we plan on using a framework for the new namespace? 08:20 marcelr yes 08:20 rangi and we inherited from it, it would make a lot more sense 08:19 rangi if Service was a class 08:19 kf oh, that looks wrong now 08:19 rangi and push the patch :) 08:19 rangi we have no actual structure, its just words, so pick a thing anything 08:19 kf Koha:(snowman)? :) 08:19 slef starts with write, ends with quit? 08:19 kf can't we use funny utf characters? 08:19 marcelr ? 08:19 rangi :) 08:19 rangi :wihwq 08:19 rangi it could be Koha: 08:18 rangi we dont have an inheritance structure, so its just chars 08:18 marcelr :-) 08:18 rangi which was kinda my point 08:18 rangi and yes its all just generic an equally as unmeaningful as Koha::Utils 08:18 kf I think it was service - data - schema 08:18 marcelr wiki is old still 08:17 marcelr no forgot its new name 08:17 rangi its service now 08:17 rangi it isnt businesslogic anymore is it? 08:17 marcelr rangi: about namespace stuff: is businesslogic not just another generic container :-) 08:14 kf thx marcelr 08:14 marcelr sent patch that comments the line' 08:13 kf ok, he is not here today 08:10 rangi so it doesnt affect my libraries 08:09 rangi here im pretty sure its neither required, nor not required 08:06 rangi until now 08:06 kf I think I will go and check again with our expert on this 08:06 rangi nope we've not had it 08:06 marcelr but we did not have the line before 08:06 rangi i know where id pick :) 08:05 rangi in germany you arent allowed to 08:05 rangi intersting in france you have to sell your users out to law enforcement 08:05 marcelr hard 08:05 rangi if france needs it, and germany cant have it 08:05 rangi it definitely needs to be a syspref then 08:05 rangi ahh i just saw pauls comment 08:04 rangi in terms of the blacklists usually contact that address to tell people they are blacklisting 08:04 marcelr just the ip line out 08:04 rangi the abuse one is handy 08:04 marcelr ok 08:03 kf marcelr: it would be nice if you could change it, would save me headaches 08:03 marcelr i thought we had privacy stuff here :-) 08:03 rangi which may or may not be a good thing :) 08:03 kf could check with another coworker, but we also have very strict rules about webserver logs 08:03 marcelr ok 08:03 kf I think so too 08:03 rangi at least 08:03 rangi i think they would have to tell people that they are doing it 08:02 marcelr about the namespace stuff? 08:02 rangi for nz, i think its fine, i just remember kf saying germany had much stricter privacy laws 08:02 marcelr i will put a followup on the report then 08:02 rangi and should jus be hacking drupal or wordpress instead :) 08:01 marcelr true 08:01 rangi because you cant just sign up to an opac :) if someone wants to go into a library to do it, to send spam .. they have too much time on their hands :-) 08:01 rangi the main thing is needing to be authenticated to send mail, thats the main spam stopper, the rest is just extra 08:00 marcelr who writes it? 08:00 rangi yep 08:00 marcelr getting that line out is not a big deal of course 08:00 kf yeah, but i have to keep an eye on that... if it remains in there 08:00 rangi but yes to master 07:59 rangi not to 3.8.x its not 07:59 kf it's already pushed, that will be the problem I think :( 07:59 marcelr the patch can live without it, i suppose 07:59 rangi the rest of the patch seems fine tho 07:59 kf because we would have to inform the patron before he sends out the mail that it will reveal his/her ip address 07:58 kf I think it might be a problem 07:58 rangi and which may or may not have any useful impact on spam (im not sure that it does) 07:58 rangi it might be that needs to become a syspref, so a library can decide conciously if they think it is worth adding the header (which btw is a MS 'standard' they introduced into hotmail) 07:57 rangi so kf will probably need to check with a privacy expert ( i know they as a public institution get audited for privacy) 07:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3280 normal, P3, ---, semarie-koha, Pushed to Master , opac/opac-sendbasket.pl security leaky 07:56 rangi marcelr: bug 3280 puts REMOTE_ADDR in the x-orig-ip header, so now the ip number of the person using it is in the header of the mail, before it was just the ip of the webserver that sent the mail to the mailserver, afaik under german privacy laws, they cant even keep ip numbers in their server logs 07:26 kf rangi: noted 07:24 marcelr hello #koha' 07:23 matts hi ! 07:23 rangi kf: you should check your linux servers too 07:23 rangi hi paul_p, matts, asaurat and kf 06:55 rangi (basically thigns were getting themselves in race conditions) 06:54 rangi (or you could reboot the whole box if course) 06:54 rangi then restart the service (so ntp, solr, mysql et al) 06:53 rangi sudo date -s "`date`" 06:53 rangi the fix is 06:53 rangi if you are seeing high cpu usage 06:53 cait ... time to get to work... rain-- 06:53 rangi the leap second bug has been wrecking solr (and other services) aroudn the world 06:52 rangi you biblibrans fix your solr servers? 06:52 julian_m hi cait 06:52 cait hello rangi and julian_m 06:51 julian_m hello 06:51 rangi evening 06:32 cait bye :) 06:32 rakesh1 Bye for now:) 06:31 rakesh1 Thanks for all your help 06:31 rakesh1 no worries i shall try to change 8081 to 8080 and then see 06:30 rakesh1 easy hosting control panel for Ubuntu server 06:30 cait I don't know what ehcp is 06:30 rakesh1 could this be a problem 06:30 rakesh1 ok i will do that and in file /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default it is written on top that this file is used by EHCP 06:29 cait bonjour alex_a :) 06:29 cait if you have something else using this port, it will need more work I think 06:28 cait you should make it 8080 06:28 rakesh1 initially before installing koha it was only Listen 80 and koha was not running then i put listen 8081 and it started to run but says koha offline 06:28 cait why did you use 8081? 06:28 cait yes 06:27 rakesh1 ok, thanks right now in file /etc/apache2/ports.conf i have these lines Listen 80 and Listen 8081, 06:27 alex_a bonjour cait :) 06:25 rakesh1 ok, so how do i change that 06:24 cait you will have to tell the program you are using a different port if in your http-conf file I think 06:23 cait rakesh1: normally the web installer listens to 8080 06:23 rakesh1 not been able to run web installer 06:22 rakesh1 sorry i got disconnected before, i have ubuntu server 12.04, before installing koha i had installed EHCP, apache is listening to two ports 80 and 8081, on port 8081 it is opening EHCP and on port 80 it opens koha but says koha is offline 06:20 alex_a rakesh1: \o 06:19 rakesh1 any one there 06:19 rakesh1 Hi 06:16 alex_a If yes, you should launch koha installer by opening the koha staff interface first. 06:15 alex_a Rakesh: 192.168.1.60:80 is the OPAC ? 06:14 Rakesh when i open 192.168.1.60:80 it opens koha page saying koha online catalog is offline 06:14 Rakesh my apache islistening to two ports 80 and 8081 06:13 Rakesh and before installing koha i ahd installed EHCP 06:13 Rakesh I have installed ubuntu server 12.04 06:13 Rakesh Hi alex 06:13 alex_a hello 04:57 cait good morning #koha 03:51 dcook Sure. Thanks again! 03:51 rangi Ok gotta go 03:51 dcook I didn't/don't really understand how zebra works, but that helps a bit 03:50 dcook Ahh, thanks for the explanation :) 03:49 rangi Those files are deleted after being indexed 03:48 rangi So when we write them we add the 952 03:47 rangi We give it xml files it indexes them 03:47 rangi You understand how zebra works? 03:46 rangi Same on export etc 03:46 dcook Temporarily? 03:46 rangi And appended to the rest of the Marc 03:46 dcook I'm a bit confused by that. 03:46 rangi Yes 03:43 dcook So you're saying the 952 is created when indexing? 03:42 dcook Right. I suppose it pays to keep up with all the releases as a person goes 03:42 rangi And nothing that circ touches 03:41 dcook I seem to remember not all of the subfields having a corresponding database field 03:41 rangi A very small bit 03:41 dcook So some of the data will wind up there? 03:41 rangi No that's only for one's that aren't mapped 03:40 dcook more_subfields_xml* 03:40 rangi In all the columns 03:40 dcook The more_xml_subfields field? 03:40 dcook But where in there? 03:40 rangi The items table 03:40 dcook Oh? 03:40 rangi So we just create the 952 when indexing 03:40 dcook So where is the info stored now? 03:39 dcook Makes sense to me 03:39 rangi Not having to update the Marc when items change makes circ faster 03:39 dcook Hmm, good to know 03:38 rangi But everything still works except that 03:38 rangi Yep, or u get doubled up items in it index 03:37 dcook That's to sort out your MARC with the 952? 03:36 rangi If you have upgraded from 3.2 you need to run a script. It's in the 3.4 release notes but also in the INSTALL file 03:35 dcook Thanks for the heads up, rangi 03:35 dcook Excellent! 03:34 dcook :o 03:25 rangi If it was updating marcxml that would be a bug 03:24 rangi Same in 3.4, 3.6 and 3.8 03:24 rangi It's all stored in the items table 03:23 rangi 952 is no longer stored in marcxml 03:22 rangi It hasn't done that since 3.4 03:12 dcook It looks like the MARC 952 isn't being added/updated for items *facepalm* 03:06 dcook I take it 3.8.3 is coming out July 21st? 03:06 dcook No one is running 3.8 for clients, are they? 03:02 dcook Allo allo #koha 02:55 Waylon Does nginx do virtual hosts? 02:54 Waylon hiya all.