Time  Nick         Message
07:57 cait-m__     waves
08:03 rangi        hi cait-m__
08:24 francharb    morning #koha
08:24 rangi        hi francharb
08:24 rangi        working on sunday?
08:25 francharb    hi rangi
08:25 francharb    yep
08:25 francharb    I'm a bit late on different project
08:25 rangi        ahh
08:25 rangi        know that feeling :)
08:25 francharb    :)
08:25 francharb    and you, what are you doing?
08:26 rangi        signing off some patches and watching tv
08:26 rangi        pretty usual sunday :)
08:26 francharb    :)
08:26 rangi        sunday evening anyway
08:43 rangi        hi drojf
09:26 drojf        good evening rangi
09:55 drojf        according to untappd, "chris house" seems to be an interesting pub
11:00 * magnuse    waves
11:00 magnuse      @wunder boo
11:00 huginn       magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 20.0°C (12:20 PM CEST on June 24, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 40%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady).
11:01 magnuse      woohoo!
12:52 jcamins_away chris_n: don't suppose you are around?
13:03 jcamins_away wizzyrea: what about you? Don't suppose you're around?
13:04 jcamins_away rangi won't be...
13:04 jcamins_away gmcharlt: any chance you're wandering by a computer right about now?
13:20 jenkins_koha Starting build #53 for job Koha_3.6.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
14:04 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.6.x build #53: SUCCESS in 44 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.6.x/53/
14:04 jenkins_koha * f.demians: Koha 3.6.6 Translation Update
14:04 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Update 3.6.6 release notes with translations
14:04 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Updating version for 3.6.6 release
14:45 druthb       o/
18:03 drojf        kohawiki++ #need to make a syspref, it's all explained :)
18:23 jcamins      drojf: kohawiki?
18:23 jcamins      Oh.
18:23 jcamins      Got it.
18:23 jcamins      Koha wiki.
18:23 jcamins      :)
18:25 drojf        :)
18:30 * jcamins    is a bit slow sometimes.
18:42 drojf        what do i do to get my syspref added to mysql in my git installation? manually run installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl that i just edited?
18:42 jcamins      drojf: exactly.
18:42 liw          jcamins, yours is the kind of slowness others aspire to
18:45 jcamins      liw: awww. Thanks.
18:56 drojf        jcamins: could you test something for me? only takes a minute
19:02 jcamins      drojf: I can try.
19:03 jcamins      Yay! I fixed a bug in the release notes generation script.
19:04 drojf        jcamins++
19:06 jcamins      drojf++
19:07 drojf        thanks for trying!
19:07 jcamins      You'll be sharing that, I trust?
19:08 drojf        sure. gotta end up in the koha timeline finally :)
19:08 drojf        but its not done yet
19:08 jcamins      :)
19:08 drojf        aaand marc21 and unimarc seem to be d'accord with the field numbers. can't believe it :)
19:10 jcamins      o.O
19:10 jcamins      Wow.
19:10 jcamins      Don't get used to it.
19:10 drojf        i won't :D
19:13 * drojf      takes a walk in the rain before its completely dark
19:31 francharb    jcamins++ for the httprecorder.pl wiki page
19:32 jcamins      francharb: it's *really* easy.
19:32 francharb    I started a documentation during edinburgh hackfest but I had some problem during log in
19:33 francharb    but, it looks like you find a way to log in...
19:33 francharb    "Logging in with Test::WWW::Mechanize "
19:33 francharb    :)
19:33 francharb    \0/
19:33 francharb    I'm going to test it as soon as I can
19:33 jcamins      Yeah, I only used it on 3.6, so I didn't know that there was some change that made it not work on 3.8.
19:34 jcamins      I found out yesterday.
19:34 jcamins      Took me four hours to figure out how to login. :(
19:34 francharb    at least, you found something to make it works...
19:34 francharb    ;)
19:34 jcamins      Yup. :)
19:38 cait-m__     waved
19:38 francharb    cait-m__, 0/
19:39 jcamins      o/
19:39 cait-m__     hi :-)
19:41 mveron       Hi everybody :-)
19:43 * mveron     just published Bug 8301
19:43 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8301 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, NEW , Display additional system information (preferences) on About page to minimize support cases
19:44 jcamins      Ooh, rangi is awake.
19:44 jcamins      This is good.
19:44 jcamins      He can give me access to download.k-c.org so that I can officially release 3.6.6.
19:44 jcamins      (I finished it a while ago, but forgot that I didn't have access to upload it)
19:49 rangi        Yep when I get to work
19:49 francharb    hi rangi
19:49 francharb    :)
19:50 rangi        Heya francharb :)
19:51 rangi        @wunder nzwn
19:51 huginn       rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 12.0°C (7:00 AM NZST on June 25, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Steady).
19:51 rangi        Our winter is Edinburgh summer
19:52 rangi        We have passed shortest day of the year now too so should start warming up again
20:00 eythian      hmm, may have fixed the wifi here, fingers crossed.
20:00 eythian      @wunder brighton, uk
20:00 huginn       eythian: The current temperature in Brighton, Brighton, United Kingdom is 16.0°C (8:45 PM BST on June 24, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady).
20:04 mveron       @wunder Basel
20:04 rangi        jcamins: will be a little while yet. Have my fortnightly breakfast with librarians first
20:04 huginn       mveron: The current temperature in Basel, Switzerland is 20.9°C (10:02 PM CEST on June 24, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
20:05 jcamins      rangi: okay. I'll bug someone else if they're around before then. :)
20:08 * jcamins    is very good at bugging people. :)
20:11 drojf        back
20:11 drojf        and wet :D
20:12 drojf        @wunder berlin, germany
20:12 huginn       drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Pankow, Weissensee, Germany is 15.0°C (10:10 PM CEST on June 24, 2012). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Rising).
20:12 mveron       @wunder kiew
20:12 huginn       mveron: Error: No such location could be found.
20:12 mveron       @wunder kiev
20:12 huginn       mveron: Error: No such location could be found.
20:13 mveron       @wunder Киев
20:13 huginn       mveron: Error: No such location could be found.
20:13 jcamins      @wunder kyiv
20:13 huginn       jcamins: The current temperature in Kyiv, Ukraine is 18.0°C (11:00 PM EEST on June 24, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Falling).
20:14 * jcamins    has been paying attention to politics in that region. :)
20:14 mveron       :-)
20:15 francharb    bye all!
20:15 francharb    good night
20:15 drojf        hi mveron :)
20:15 francharb    good day
20:15 francharb    ;)
20:15 drojf        night francharb
20:17 mveron       hi drojf
20:17 drojf        working late?
20:18 mveron       Looking England Italia and doing some Koha stuff.
20:18 mveron       e.g. Bug 8301
20:18 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8301 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, NEW , Display additional system information (preferences) on About page to minimize support cases
20:20 drojf        cool! i like it
20:20 drojf        mveron++
20:20 mveron       Thanks...
20:21 mveron       I'm walking now through the documentation to find some other preferences to check
20:23 drojf        maybe these things could also show up at the preference screen when trying to have bad combinations. or prevent them even? somehow it should not be possible to save settings that break things in the first place
20:25 mveron       drojf: I agree, but I think it would require a lot of work regarding the preference system.
20:25 jcamins      Yeah. Also, there are very few combinations of system preferences that are just *wrong*.
20:26 drojf        probably. i don't know much about that yet, i just made my first syspref :)
20:26 mveron       With my proposition we can catch the most common error or mistakes
20:26 jcamins      Having NoZebra set to "Do not use" is the only one that is absolutely, definitively, a mistake.
20:28 eythian      do you have that backwards?
20:28 eythian      (sysprefs in the negative should be banned I think)
20:29 mveron       ?
20:29 jcamins      There are other things that often cause problems, but we can't really prevent people setting them, because they are there for a good reason.
20:29 jcamins      eythian: no, I have the right.
20:29 jcamins      eythian: NoZebra = "Do/Do not use Zebra."
20:29 jcamins      NoZebra should be entirely eradicated.
20:29 jcamins      NoZebra does not even sort of function.
20:29 eythian      oh right. Yeah, it's a terrible name for a preference. Forgetting the context like I just did inverts its meaning
20:30 jcamins      Right.
20:30 eythian      but yes, it should be removed.
20:30 mveron       jcamins: See comments on Bug 8298
20:30 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8298 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Can't call method "subfield" on an undefined value at Biblio.pm (sub _AddBiblioNoZebra)
20:30 eythian      also: we need to have better detection of the Zebra server going missing
20:30 drojf        i think it is only there so you can switch from nozebra to zebra. that is odd ;)
20:30 jcamins      mveron: yes, I saw that.
20:31 jcamins      Removing NoZebra is on my to-do list.
20:31 jcamins      Unfortunately, my to-do list is much too long, and that is just not something that makes it very high.
20:31 drojf        remove nozebra now, remove zebra later :D
20:31 mveron       eythian: Zebra not running could be a great thing on the About: System" Tab, but I do not know how to get the information
20:31 jcamins      drojf: well, let's keep Zebra awhile longer.
20:32 mveron       I mean an information like "Zebra sever not runnig, please start it"
20:33 jcamins      mveron: agreed. I don't know how to check that either.
20:34 mveron       Do a search on letter 'a'. if we have no results Zebra is supposed not tu run  :-)
20:34 mveron       to run
20:34 drojf        depends on the language
20:34 jcamins      ^^
20:35 drojf        and/ or script
20:35 mveron       и  :-)
20:37 drojf        is there a way in perl to check if a file exists on some webserver?
20:37 drojf        (not related to checking for running zebras)
20:38 jcamins      drojf: -d ?
20:38 jcamins      drojf: I'm not quite sure what you want, though.
20:39 jcamins      drojf: if you mean on a remote web server, perhaps you could try downloading the file?
20:39 drojf        yes a remote webserver, not the local one
20:39 eythian      mveron: well, if you do a search, presumably an error condition occurs somewhere that we could pick up and say something meaningful other than "no results found"
20:39 drojf        yes, i thought there might be something better
20:40 jcamins      drojf: I think you just have to do a HEAD request?
20:40 eythian      drojf: do a head request, see if you get a 404 error
20:40 mveron       eythian: Thanks. I'll do some tests
20:42 drojf        sounds good, thanks
20:43 drojf        mveron: that game could use a goal or two
20:44 mveron       drojf: Yes, waiting...
20:58 rangi        jcamins: what do you want your username to be? jcamins?
21:03 jcamins      rangi: jcamins would be perfect.
21:04 rangi        done
21:19 jcamins      All uploaded.
21:19 * jcamins    sends the e-mail and publishes the announcement.
21:20 jcamins      Done.
21:20 jcamins      3.6.6 has been released.
21:20 jcamins      And 3.6.7 is going to have a much smoother path to release.
21:21 * jcamins    is teaching his release script to send the e-mail for him, and provide the post for copy and paste.
21:51 mveron       Good night everybody :-)
22:59 * druthb     waves to talljoy.
22:59 talljoy      hey druthb!!!!
22:59 wahanui      well, druthb is a migration specialist and great friend
22:59 talljoy      wahanui is a genius!
22:59 druthb       wahanui: botsnack cookie
22:59 wahanui      :)
22:59 druthb       puh.