Time Nick Message 22:31 cait yum 22:29 * jcamins invents peanut satay salad dressing. 22:24 wajasu here is a nice bit of info: http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.perl4lib/2009/01/msg2703.html 22:23 wajasu i did a diacritic fix once, but could not be sure my setup was comparable to a debian install. thats why i am using a debian VM now. so as not to bring in some new behavior when patching. 22:21 * jcamins knows of two libraries that were in that situation. 22:17 wajasu my fear is folks can run with bogus transformations for a few years, thinking some bugs exist in the code, while the data is not consistent. 22:16 jcamins Not yet, that I know of. 22:16 wajasu when i was writing a program to convert legacy library db to marc and had the option of using some options for normalization, i was looking hard for a guide. maybe the wiki has it, or else it needs it. 22:11 jcamins cait: we should. 22:11 cait we should fix that 22:11 cait eek 22:11 jcamins cait: I can get NFKC, NFD, *or* NFC from a MARC-8 record. 22:11 jcamins cait: it doesn't normalize MARC-8 consistently either. 22:10 cait that's why I get the data from the union catalog in one of the iso.... 22:10 cait it does not if you say you get utf-8 to begin with 22:10 jcamins cait: it's supposed to convert to NFKC, but it doesn't. 22:10 cait jcamins: hm not sure 22:09 jcamins wajasu: no. It's a problem. 22:09 cait my hand fell asleep 22:09 wajasu does koha convert to a certain normalization standard ( NFD norm form decomposed, vs NFC norm form composed)? 22:09 cait lol even 22:09 cait loö 22:09 jcamins dpavlin: I've decided I don't like any of the existing patches, so you can start over. 22:08 dpavlin are there any pending Koha::Cache patches for sysprefs and such stuff or can I start? 22:03 bag go #koha!!!! 22:02 * cait highly recommends whatching the life stream for yapc:na 22:00 wajasu thanks. 21:58 * oleonard waves goodbye to #koha 21:57 jcamins wajasu: the problem is that there's no way to identify what the correct encoding is without looking at it. 21:57 dpavlin and then our national library moved to aleph and doesn't have public Z39.50 server, so problem solved (for them) 21:57 jcamins dpavlin: yeah, Koha needs to have better support for unicode normalization. 21:57 wajasu maybe we could convert for both options, and if black diamonds appear in one, and not the other, suggest that the encoding be changed in the config. 21:56 dpavlin It can be even worse: for us marc-8 records from voyager ended up beeing separate character and carron instead of single utf-8 char which was very tricky for editing 21:56 jcamins Right. 21:56 wajasu my user would see black diamonds. so they would change to marc8. which would the correct things to do correct. 21:55 jcamins But you have to get the UTF-8/MARC-8 decision right, or it'll just be ugly. 21:54 wajasu thats what i wanted to know. 21:54 jcamins Koha will translate everything to UTF-8 after importing. 21:54 wajasu right. 21:54 jcamins UTF-8 and MARC-8 are different character encodings, not MARC formats. 21:54 wajasu ok. so the installed marc flavour is only a guideline, and thinga are mixed. 21:53 jcamins If you have an example of a server that supports both (hard to find!), you should sign off on the bug. 21:52 jcamins wajasu: you have to set it to whatever the remote server supports. 21:52 dpavlin wajasu: there is recent bug for that 21:52 wajasu whether you configure the z3950 server encoding to be marc-8 or utf-8, does koha support both? or should one set all the z3950 server encodings to utf-8? does koha translate the marc records to a utf-8? 21:51 jcamins :D 21:51 cait dpavlin: it's so nice - you write something and I can hear your voice talking in my head 21:51 jcamins It's just even worse when we're using memcached. 21:51 jcamins And that's true whether or not we're using memcached. 21:51 jcamins *cache invalidation 21:51 dpavlin jcamins: i know, i know. I will replace it with compute I promise :-) 21:50 jcamins dpavlin: I'll point out again that memoize is not a good choice for caching in Koha, since record invalidation can't be done. 21:48 jenkins_koha jcamins: Fix markup error 21:48 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.6.x build #51: SUCCESS in 44 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.6.x/51/ 21:48 cait not sure 21:47 wizzyrea or overloading the inputs. 21:47 wizzyrea i am sure it's lovely when it's not breaking speakers. 21:47 wizzyrea that too. 21:47 cait or that the people are so small? 21:47 wizzyrea lol yes 21:47 cait the music? 21:47 cait wizzyrea: what? 21:46 wizzyrea wow that is annoying. 21:46 jcamins cait: we should get that slide, make it the background on the wiki... 21:46 jcamins dpavlin: Plack's really cool! 21:46 cait oh mysql won? 21:45 dpavlin jcamins++ for testing plack stuff it really helps 21:44 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7857 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Signed Off , database upgrade fails with plack 21:44 dpavlin jcamins: or something similar <grin> -- still setting up CHI on plack, bug 7857 got sqeezed before CHI :-) 21:43 jcamins :D 21:43 wizzyrea oh good, we're starting with holy wars. 21:43 jcamins It sure is. 21:42 wizzyrea this is very loud lol. 21:41 bag wizzyrea: those were some serious chops on that dude 21:39 bag yup I just caught her too 21:39 jcamins I was a little baffled how that could happen. 21:39 jcamins Ah. 21:39 wizzyrea no! she was on the YAPC stream :) briefly 21:38 jcamins wizzyrea: she just showed up at NEKLS? 21:38 wizzyrea hey I see ruth! 21:35 wizzyrea sensitive. They are cruel taskmasters. 21:35 * oleonard covers the ipads sensitive young ears 21:33 * wizzyrea curses at ipads 21:32 cait it works 21:32 cait hah 21:32 cait http://video.ics.uwex.edu/5952ef59-79c6-4fa9-9374-016bc28f7d2c 21:28 cait http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/vienna-pm/2012-June/003125.html 21:27 cait ah 21:27 cait doesn't look like it 21:27 cait hm 21:26 cait checking :) 21:25 oleonard Wasn't it a tweet from dpavlin? 21:25 cait and even after installing microsoft codecs stuff on my nice linuxy laptop it does not seem to work 21:24 cait but can't find it now 21:24 cait I tought I saw a post somewhere today how to avoid silverlight watching those 21:24 cait yeah boo 21:24 wizzyrea boo. 21:24 wizzyrea yea it uses silverlight 21:23 cait silverlight? 21:23 cait I want to, but it is not working :( 21:23 jcamins dpavlin: isn't 7879 memoize-specific? 21:23 wizzyrea "slumming it" 21:23 cait for yapc:na? 21:23 cait dpavlin: how did you watch the life streams? 21:22 * oleonard is slumming it on Mibbit on someone else's computer 21:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7879 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, In Discussion , Memoize::Memcached two times slower than it should be 21:22 dpavlin jcamins: Hope that Cache::Memcached::Fast doesn't have bug 7879 -- not tried yet 21:21 cait oh 21:21 oleonard I was asked to cover for someone at another library today. 21:21 cait jcaminshe is working late today :P 21:21 cait yay :) 21:21 jcamins No keylag at the moment. 21:21 * jcamins tries his usual nick for a change. 21:21 jcamins_mib oleonard: why are you here this late? 21:21 * jcamins_mib feels this is a problem. 21:20 jcamins_mib It turns out Cache::Memcached can't cope with UTF-8. 21:20 jcamins_mib dpavlin: yeah, I didn't realize that Cache::Memcached::Fast wasn't already a dependency. 21:19 cait :) 21:19 cait ah ok 21:18 dpavlin yap, we had irc discussion yesterday while waiting for IRC meeting. My mail to koha-dev is basically better summary from that ;-) 21:18 cait dpavlin: you should get together with jared probably :) he seems the chi expert right now 21:18 dpavlin oleonard++ I'm IRC newbie :-) 21:18 huginn dpavlin: The operation succeeded. 21:18 dpavlin @later tell mbalmer sorry, try my e-mail I'm not really on IRC at all, it's my hanging irssi mostly :-) 21:17 oleonard dpavlin: Try "@later tell mbalmer..." 21:17 * oleonard could use some 21:16 * cait sends cookies 21:16 cait ooh 21:16 oleonard Working late today cait 21:16 huginn dpavlin: Error: I haven't seen mbalmer, I'll let you do the telling. 21:16 dpavlin @tell mbalmer sorry, try my e-mail I'm not really on IRC at all, it's my hanging irssi mostly :-) 21:16 cait isn't it your time to go home ? :) 21:16 cait oleonard: why are you still here? 21:15 cait oleonard: heh :) 21:15 dpavlin cait: yes, I'm going through CHI code as we speeak... I think we should add Cache::Memcached::Fast to koha dependecies, since I wasn't able to figure out why CHI modules didn't show up after installation :-) 21:14 oleonard It's quiet in here. We should have a meeting. 21:04 jenkins_koha Starting build #51 for job Koha_3.6.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 20:59 magnuse g'night #koha 20:58 cait np 20:58 gml cait: gimme a few minutes please 20:56 cait gml: I think so :( we only have a tool for text 20:55 drojf good night #koha 20:55 gml thirdparty webpages? 20:54 gml how do you people send images here? 20:54 cait how the acquisition form looks for you? 20:54 cait can you share a screenshot somehow? 20:54 cait hm 20:53 gml I installed all demo values (like those libraries Centerville, Fairfield, etc) 20:52 cait maybe you didn't install the standard authorized values 20:52 cait is this a fresh installation? 20:52 cait hm 20:52 cait ah 20:51 cait delete the acq framework 20:51 cait I would suggest starting over 20:50 gml I followed this "cookbook" http://wiki.ubc.ca/User:JJU/portfolio/Acquisition_frameworks_guide 20:46 cait like having on loan set to 'on order' 20:46 cait that you want to create for your on order items 20:46 cait it should show your item fields 20:46 gml how should it be? 20:45 gml and something like 952 subfield 7 = -1 20:45 cait It sounds like your field 952 is not setup correctly 20:45 cait and selected a framework for it to be based on? 20:45 cait after you created it? 20:45 cait did you click on marc structure 20:45 gml I created ACQ framework 20:44 cait have you definded your acq framework correctly? 20:44 cait ah 20:44 gml cait: I'm on /cgi-bin/koha/acqui/neworderempty.pl , and "Item" group is empty 20:42 jcamins_mib Or at least one. 20:39 jcamins_mib oleonard's jqueryui update fixed a bunch of markup errors. 20:39 jcamins_mib Found the problem. 20:39 jcamins_mib Hm. 20:37 jcamins_mib Guess I'll keep using mibbit while I have several minute key lag. 20:36 * jcamins pokes this _mib fellow. 20:36 jcamins_mib Very laggy. 20:35 jcamins_mib (about my request fifteen minutes ago for help testing) 20:35 jcamins_mib (I sent that message ten minutes ago) 20:35 gml jcamins_mib: 3.8.0, + the 4 files from http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7a81b89357f965953a149c1ba846bbef9db8c2af changed 20:35 cait it's in all versions now 20:35 jcamins_mib Talk about lag. 20:35 jcamins_mib Wow. 20:35 cait nope 20:35 jcamins Seems tob e 3.6.x-specific. 20:35 drojf its ok once you know it. but i feel less stupid now that im not the only one ;) 20:35 cait not sure 20:35 cait starting with one item already would not be less confusing maybe 20:34 cait drojf: the thing is, you create items 20:34 cait drojf: I know - but we did not come up with a better idea 20:34 drojf see, that IS confusing! 20:34 cait there is a small link below the item form 20:34 cait click add on the item form above 20:34 cait yes 20:33 gml yes, I have the quantity=0 in neworderempty when AcqCreateItem = "place an order" 20:33 cait because it applies only if that is the case 20:33 jcamins_mib gml: what version of Koha are you using? 20:33 cait and is your AcqCreateItem preference set to "on order"? 20:32 cait in acquisitions? 20:32 cait gml: are you creating a new order right now? 20:32 jcamins_mib Wow. My connection is really problematic today. 20:31 gml Where is this "add"? 20:31 gml What's the "add" they're talking about? 20:31 gml "The new display after this patch requires you to click 'Add' at least once" 20:30 huginn 04Bug 7178: normal, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, RESOLVED FIXED, Improve order item creation 20:30 gml about http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7178#c25 20:30 gml hi everyone. 20:28 jcamins Is the end result... icky? 20:28 jcamins Try enabling OPACAmazonReviews. 20:28 jcamins Does anyone have a moment to test something for me? 20:20 sekjal good night, #koha! 20:16 cait long list 20:16 cait netsplit, most people got reconnected 20:15 cait heh 20:15 kathryn I just saw a "wow" when I arrived :) 20:15 kathryn morning cait! 20:15 * cait said hi to wizzyrea already 20:14 cait hi kathryn :) 20:14 wizzyrea hi :) 20:14 kathryn hi wizzyrea :) 20:13 wizzyrea wow. 19:27 mbalmer slacker.... 19:26 mveron :-) 19:26 cait :) 19:26 cait good night mveron 19:26 * mveron says good night to #koha 19:25 libsysguy Mr. Anderson... 19:24 libsysguy just realized how clever neo_'s nick was 19:00 cait dpavlin: have you seen jared's work on chi? :) 18:59 * mbalmer eats and drinks ;) 18:58 * cait watches cooking shows in english 18:56 drojf oh there is fussball. again. 18:50 drojf yes i know. its because of the tv recordings 18:50 cait might be a bit impractical then 18:50 cait hm 18:49 drojf only berlin brandenburg. but you cant borrow things anyway, only some exceptions for teachers and students with papers or talks to do. but you can learn at our nice place 18:49 cait I could provide my student id for fh dortmund or my staff member card for university of konstanz? :) 18:48 drojf [off] we have to be a closed usergroup or how that is expressed in english for copyright reasons, but we dont send people away that want to learn a language and behave 18:48 cait only at the wrong university 18:48 cait I do study 18:47 drojf you come by and explain why you should be a patron even though you dont study 18:47 mbalmer apply in maori... 18:47 cait how do I sign up for a borrower card at your library? 18:47 cait drojf: good idea :) 18:46 drojf thats true. have to tell my boss to buy some maori teaching books. we only have one cd-rom 18:45 mbalmer if at all a non english language, it should probably be maori anyway.... 18:45 drojf they have their own universe already 18:45 drojf ah i see 18:44 cait koha-fr I think 18:44 cait there is a french speaking koha channel 18:44 mbalmer on peut même changer ca, drojf ;) 18:44 cait I think sticking to english mostly is probably more polite :) 18:44 drojf mbalmer: na hier 18:43 drojf are there language rules here? probably yes, i dont read much french here 18:43 mbalmer wo denn? 18:43 mveron Great 18:43 cait yeah, finally there is one :) 18:43 cait hm misses 18:43 drojf its like a german speaking community meeting :D 18:43 * cait missed kohacon 18:43 mveron hi drojf 18:42 drojf hi mveron 18:42 * mveron Waves to German speaking Kohanians 18:42 * mbalmer waves back 18:42 * cait waves 18:42 mbalmer hi mirko! 18:41 drojf hi mbalmer 18:41 mbalmer ola 18:40 cait somewhere around grassmarket 18:40 cait that's why I am wondering 18:40 cait it was a smaller store 18:40 drojf i bet you can order it from the fudge house 18:39 cait I fear I don't have a safe with timer around :) 18:39 drojf take a piece and lock it away with a timer until next day :D 18:38 cait will be hard to eat that in small amounts. so good. 18:38 cait hehe 18:38 drojf already found a supply for the heather ale here too 18:38 drojf i bet they do ship 18:38 drojf no new bids for kohacon. i guess it will stay that way 18:37 cait wonder if they ship? 18:37 cait I have to get back to that store somehow 18:37 * drojf grabs a piece 18:36 * cait puts a little plate of fudge into #koha ;) 18:36 cait this is soo good - just cut some of my fudge 18:36 cait I am sorry :) 18:36 cait lol 18:36 drojf also your berlin library hides ours on the libwebcat map :P 18:35 drojf yes but you dont usually visit libraries here that you could give a flyer to 18:35 cait or we have 18:35 cait and I have a library in berlin ;) 18:35 cait you should 18:35 cait :) 18:32 drojf or at least i should, you are not really in berlin/brandenburg 18:31 drojf cait: we should have little flyers for the koha part of the wildau thing 18:31 drojf but nagged the offline library about koha ;) 18:30 drojf sent to get a book, library is offline and cant give out books. copied the article somewhere else, went back, we already had the article, but it was labelled wrong :( 18:29 drojf even less fun then usual 18:29 cait how was the unfun job? ;) 18:29 drojf hi cait :) 18:28 cait hey drojf :) 18:27 maximep oh, yeah, koha. I should fix those patches -_- 18:08 drojf hello again 17:37 * mveron Waves to cait 17:34 cait bye mveron :) 17:34 mveron Good evening #koha 16:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8092 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Koha should use CHI caching framework 16:55 jenkins_koha jcamins: Bug 8092 follow-up: Fix perlcritic violations 16:55 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #757: FIXED in 50 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/757/ 16:55 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed! 16:52 nengard okey dokey 16:52 jcamins nengard: maximep has a patch about serial prediction. I don't know what it does, but maybe it has something to do with the bug you just reported? 16:04 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_8092' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7183a241c4f696c0f7cea9868ee82573328fe98a> / Bug 8092 follow-up: Fix perlcritic violations <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=30973197682a38caf54392fd780529fb916de542> 16:04 jenkins_koha Starting build #757 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #743 5 days 6 hr ago) 15:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8248 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Invalid characters entered in bib record cause 500 error 15:54 SJeffery bug 8248 <--there, I submitted it...if someone could test it in FF/Chrome and see what happens. 15:51 jcamins Patch attached to bug 8092. 15:48 clrh (but listed... https://docs.google.com/a/biblibre.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuZF5Y_c4pIxdHE3S0RXMjJqSzZ3d1BVUmxpRnRVUUE#gid=0) 15:47 clrh not submitted and not a priority for the moment 15:47 clrh kylemhall: can't do more than: http://git.biblibre.com/?p=koha;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/unilim/ft/MT6838 15:46 jcamins I don't know how to test it, since I can't replicate the problem. 15:46 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8092 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Koha should use CHI caching framework 15:46 jcamins Additional follow-up on bug 8092. 15:45 clrh kylemhall: you asked for css and smartphone I completly forget 15:45 SJeffery lol yes 15:44 oleonard ...or MySQL 15:44 oleonard Good point SJeffery 15:44 wizzyrea or more likely, chinese web crawlers. 15:43 SJeffery Koha does not go down...it is the fault of the OS 15:43 wizzyrea :) 15:43 drojf was a good starter to question their choice of ils though :D 15:43 drojf they didn#t 15:43 drojf oleonard: we got offline circulation 15:42 nengard hehe 15:42 * oleonard has heard that it's possible for Koha to go down too ;) 15:41 drojf went to a library, could not get the book i wanted because the system was offline. damn non-koha ils 15:38 oleonard Hi #koha 15:37 sekjal dpavlin: from the fix provided, it looks like it should be a separate bug report. 15:32 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8247 blocker, P1 - high, ---, dpavlin, ASSIGNED , adding basket doesn't save basket name, internal or vendor note 15:31 dpavlin I have quick question about Bug 8247 -- attached patch is minimal change which fixes it, but I would love to rewrite NewBasket to properly use placeholders in SQL query (instead of string interpolation) and insert everything using singe SQL statement. Would that fit into same bug or should I open another one? 15:24 clrh jcamins: wich url? 15:24 reiveune bye 15:23 jcamins Ah. If I look in the build output, it tells me what the problem is. 15:10 wizzyrea oh could be 15:10 jcamins wizzyrea: it's a perlcritic complaint, I suspect I'm missing a perlcritic configuration file or something. 15:09 wizzyrea gotta be seothing about the db 15:03 clrh aah :) 15:03 jcamins And it doesn't say what it doesn't like. 15:03 jcamins clrh: yes, that test passes on my system. 15:02 clrh http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/756/#showFailuresLink ? 15:00 jcamins Hm. When rangi is back home, maybe he can explain why jenkins is unhappy. 14:59 matts yay ! Pushed ! 14:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7952 normal, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Master , PDF::Reuse under plack writes to console STDOUT instead to browser 14:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5337 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, matthias.meusburger, Pushed to Master , acq EAN search 14:56 jenkins_koha * dpavlin: Bug 7952 - followup to fix t/Creators.t 14:56 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 5337 : Upping the count of the unit tests 14:56 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #756: STILL UNSTABLE in 51 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/756/ 14:56 libsysguy sad but true 14:56 cait libsysguy: because he is way smarter than we are? 14:56 jcamins Yeah, link 1 was a script for recording actions. So you just do whatever you want to test, and then save the resulting script. 14:56 libsysguy damn it jcamins why do you have to have all the good ideas first 14:55 libsysguy damn....no skipped straight to 2 14:55 jcamins libsysguy: you didn't follow the first link I shared earlier, did you? 14:55 jcamins WWW::Mechanize::Firefox. 14:54 cait ? 14:53 libsysguy then push those to Mech actions 14:53 libsysguy well i mean record user actions in javascript instead of coding them ourselves 14:53 jcamins Yeah, being able to test Javascript would be pretty incredible, too. 14:52 libsysguy it would be cool if we could translate javascript actions into WW::Mech tasks 14:51 jcamins The plan is that different people will be able to record different tasks. 14:51 jcamins cait: yeah, definitely a wiki page. 14:50 cait and we need a common starting point 14:50 cait jcamins: maybe a wiki page? 14:50 cait automatic_testing++ 14:50 libsysguy I could definitly do that 14:50 cait :) 14:50 libsysguy that would be cool 14:49 jcamins libsysguy: you should submit a patch with t/www/crawl_opac.t and t/www/crawl_intranet.t 14:49 jcamins libsysguy: oooh, clever. 14:48 libsysguy crawler** 14:48 libsysguy we could use the cralwer I wrote to do link checking and software errors 14:47 libsysguy yeah its pretty sweet right 14:47 jcamins https://github.com/jcamins/release-tools/blob/master/install-fresh.pl 14:47 jcamins https://github.com/jcamins/release-tools/blob/master/httprecorder.pl 14:46 jcamins I don't know how I lived without WWW::Mechanize, now that I know about it. 14:46 libsysguy although I have never coded for it 14:46 libsysguy it is 14:46 jcamins It is so freaking awesome. 14:46 libsysguy and I was going to code it and let you enter the recordings :p 14:46 libsysguy haha thats funny jcamins because I was just looking into using WWW::Mechanize to do testing 14:45 jcamins (you can test too if you'd like, of course) 14:45 jcamins And by "we" I mean, I'll be doing the testing, you'll be doing the recording. :P 14:45 jcamins libsysguy: we're going to be using HTTP::Recorder and Test::WWW::Mechanize to test common Koha tasks. 14:44 libsysguy jcamins ಠ_ಠ14:44 libsysguy ... 14:44 sekjal jcamins++ 14:44 jcamins Ooh, I bet libsysguy would like to use his vacation to record lots of Koha tasks. 14:44 libsysguy mib_r0crqt you still around? 14:43 * jcamins will send out an e-mail requesting assistance and with instructions this evening, probably. 14:42 jcamins *that tests 14:42 jcamins Creating a user, checking out books, etc. 14:41 jcamins I've decided to have a test environment for release preparation that does tests interaction steps, too. 14:38 jcamins Yup. 14:36 cait http recorder recording? :) 14:36 * jcamins needs to enlist help to record common Koha tasks. 14:20 cait trusting in you :) 14:20 cait me neither 14:20 * jcamins wasn't actually worried. 14:19 wizzyrea \o/ 14:19 jcamins 3.6.x is stable! 14:19 jcamins Yay! 14:18 nengard thanks 14:18 nengard cool 14:17 jcamins nengard: see my comment to sekjal. I didn't read far enough back. 14:16 jcamins That's generally close enough to correct to enable you to write working queries. 14:15 jcamins *think of 14:13 jcamins :) 14:13 jcamins sekjal: you can pretty much just thing of HAVING as "WHERE for aggregate functions." 14:05 jenkins_koha Starting build #756 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #743 5 days 4 hr ago) 14:04 jenkins_koha jcamins: Release Notes for 3.06.06.000 14 Jun 2012 12:33:48 Z 14:04 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.6.x build #50: SUCCESS in 44 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.6.x/50/ 14:04 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_7952' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=84ec97123be5fb5a666b8b7c5cd6eefd4ef3060b> / Bug 7952 - followup to fix t/Creators.t <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1e5f68fdcb19eacae0a1852ac14e4b5bb5f3cf30> / Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_5337' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bb 13:57 cait :) 13:55 * wizzyrea waves 13:50 cait back 13:35 sekjal so any conditionals you want to on an aggregate function line SUM() or COUNT() need to be in HAVING, because that information won't exist yet when WHERE is executed 13:34 sekjal apparently, WHERE is applied before GROUP BY or ORDER BY, while HAVING is applied after 13:34 mbalmer ola koha 13:33 sekjal thanks, ago43, glad I could help 13:32 ago43 many pluses your way, sekjal! 13:31 ago43 only one result, but I think that is correct. 13:31 ago43 looks like it worked! no errors. 13:29 nengard but I too ran it with no errors 13:29 nengard ago43 will tell us if it's right 13:29 nengard hehe 13:28 sekjal you're welcome; no guarantee it's the data you're looking for, but it doesnt' return an error on my system, at least 13:28 nengard ago43 here's your report: http://paste.koha-community.org/452 13:28 nengard I never learned HAVING (in case you didn't notice) and so I never think about it 13:28 nengard thank you so much 13:28 pastebot "sekjal" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "for nengard" (1 line) at http://paste.koha-community.org/452 13:27 sekjal nengard: HAVING after WHERE, with no GROUP BY 13:26 nengard :( 13:26 nengard Wait, where does the having go? I put it after the where and still get the error 13:26 ago43 sekjal ++ 13:25 nengard THANK YOU 13:25 nengard and you always correct me 13:25 nengard OH YES!!! I always make that mistake 13:24 sekjal nengard: I think you need to move the "count(distinct m.biblionumber) > 1)" out of WHERE and into HAVING 13:21 pastebot "nengard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "looking for (hopefully easy) report help if anyone can give me a pointer that would be great" (11 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/451 13:20 jenkins_koha Starting build #50 for job Koha_3.6.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 13:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5327 major, P3, ---, sam-sanders, ASSIGNED , Unit tests required for all C4 modules 13:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7722 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Stable , Insidious problem with searching 13:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7213 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Master , Document /svc/ HTTP API and provide example command-line client 13:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8022 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Stable , Permissions test doesn't check all languages 13:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7820 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Stable , Missing packages from install_misc/debian.packages 13:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7990 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, henridamien, Pushed to Stable , bad html attribute into aqplan.tt : styl= insted of style= 13:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8008 trivial, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to Stable , Fix typo in man page for koha-create 13:19 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 5327 : Fix for XISBN test, thingisbn is now handing back different results 13:19 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 7722 - Insidious problem with searching 13:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7929 minor, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Stable , Duplicate id "availability" on XSLT result page 13:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7987 minor, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Stable , Typo causing invalid markup in circulation.tt 13:19 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 7213 : Follow up fixing license information 13:19 jenkins_koha * dpavlin: Bug 7213 - simple /svc/ HTTP example 13:19 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 8022: Permissions test doesn't check all languages 13:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2399 normal, P3, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Stable , All status fields in the item edit interface offer two blank/null entries per dropdown instead of one 13:19 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Welcoming Lyon 3 team as a committer, and adding 3.8.0 release 13:19 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: Bug 7820: Followup: Add missing Debian packages 13:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3413 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Stable , repeatable tickbox not sticking 1st time round 13:19 jenkins_koha * koha.sekjal: Bug 7820: Add missing Debian packages 13:19 jenkins_koha * stephane.delaune: bug 7990 - styl= in aqplan.tt 13:19 jenkins_koha * magnus: Bug 8008 - Fix typo in man page for koha-create 13:19 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7929 - Duplicate id "availability" on XSLT result page 13:19 jenkins_koha * colin.campbell: Bug 7987 [SIGNED-OFF] Fix typo in circulation template 13:19 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 2399: Follow up removing MySQLisms from ru-RU and uk-UA sample files 13:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8025 normal, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Pushed to Stable , Patron attribute not selected if value is zero 13:19 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 2399: All status fields in the item edit interface offer two blank/null entries per dropdown instead of one 13:19 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 3413: Checkboxes for new subfields not saving correctly 13:19 jenkins_koha * adrien.saurat: Bug 8025: corrects the return of a zero value for authorised values 13:19 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.6.x build #49: SUCCESS in 45 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.6.x/49/ 13:13 cait ok, now gone - brb 13:10 cait :) 13:09 sekjal hi, cait! 13:09 cait hi sekjal 13:07 sekjal morning, magnuse! 13:07 magnuse kia ora sekjal! 13:06 cait and infant leonard 13:06 magnuse yay! 13:06 cait king of libriotech? ;) 13:06 cait so.... 13:06 cait because then we can call the little one a prince 13:06 cait I think we need something royal 13:06 libsysguy bbl 13:06 libsysguy work** 13:06 libsysguy ok have to drive to wok 13:06 libsysguy magnuse-kahn 13:05 magnuse hehe 13:05 libsysguy magnuse you are lucky lol 13:05 cait magnuse: world emperor? 13:05 * magnuse is free to choose his own title(s) ;-) 13:05 cait bbl 13:05 libsysguy no longer am I a Hardware support technician :p 13:05 cait :) 13:05 cait ok, time to fill up the fridge 13:05 * cait is only "librarian" heh 13:05 libsysguy i feel important now 13:05 cait yeah :) 13:05 magnuse sounds good, doesn't it? 13:05 * libsysguy is a specialist :p 13:04 libsysguy Development Support Specialist 13:04 libsysguy I am pretty sure it is the same as Kyleh 13:04 * libsysguy thinks 13:04 libsysguy umm 13:04 cait what is your new job title? 13:04 libsysguy lol thanks guys :) 13:04 magnuse yeah, congrats to libsysguy and bywater! 13:04 cait reading back: congratulatoins libsysguy :) 13:03 * jcamins scurries to get into the city. 13:03 mib_r0crqt yep, and salary doubling 13:03 * libsysguy is all about free lunch 13:02 libsysguy sweet 13:02 mib_r0crqt sounds great, i'l if we can get that free lunch :) 13:02 jcamins Once I have figured out how to get the scripts working post-modification, I'll share them. :) 13:02 magnuse jcamins++ 13:02 libsysguy I can come by TJC tomorrow during that window 13:02 libsysguy cool 13:01 * jcamins is working on modifying the sandbox scripts into teaching tools for his clients. 13:01 mib_r0crqt mon-fri 13:01 mib_r0crqt yeah sure 13:01 libsysguy today is my last day so I kind of have to be here :-/ 13:01 mib_r0crqt i'm sure you being local would influence the support company selection 13:01 libsysguy will you be there at that time tomorrow? 13:01 mib_r0crqt i'm here from 6AM to about 2PM if you want to swing by :) 13:00 magnuse libsysguy++ 13:00 * jcamins too. 13:00 * libsysguy is all about the learning 13:00 libsysguy well I'd still be happy to help you set it up so you can learn 13:00 libsysguy oh 13:00 libsysguy I don't really do much development for UT 13:00 mib_r0crqt some support company is going to host, install, configure, and support us in the end 13:00 jcamins He's going from a job where he installs Koha for one library to a job where he installs Koha for a lot of libraries, and in between he'd like to install Koha! 13:00 libsysguy thats why I do development for Koha 13:00 libsysguy haha well thats cool too 12:59 mib_r0crqt hey you know libsysguy ... everything i'm doing is for personal satisfaction 12:59 jcamins Clearly. 12:59 jcamins mib_r0crqt: and libsysguy doesn't really get this whole "vacation" thing. 12:59 libsysguy we can meet up somewhere and I can help you out 12:59 libsysguy mib_r0crqt: I have 2 weeks off after today if you want some help 12:58 libsysguy ok 12:58 mib_r0crqt i'll check it out soon 12:57 mib_r0crqt but it was so far from what i did for 3.8.0 ... 12:57 libsysguy mib_r0crqt: yeah that would be the easiest way 12:57 mib_r0crqt i noticed it mentioned the .deb package for koha 12:57 libsysguy i think the wiki link has a way to update from tarball to packages 12:57 jcamins :) 12:57 libsysguy im on a roll :p 12:56 libsysguy man that's two right answers for me today 12:56 jcamins packages++ 12:56 jcamins suffering-- 12:56 jcamins mib_r0crqt: but better would be to just switch to packages. 12:56 * libsysguy did tarball at first too 12:56 jcamins mib_r0crqt: look at INSTALL.debian. 12:56 magnuse clrh: i didn't say you were'nt, i think? ;-) 12:56 libsysguy http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Moving_an_installation_from_a_regular_install_to_the_Debian_packages 12:56 libsysguy mib_r0crqt: no you can actually use apt to install koha 12:56 mib_r0crqt i actually liked figuring out the tar ball method 12:55 mib_r0crqt using the git method? 12:55 mib_r0crqt ? 12:55 libsysguy installing koha from packages would cause you far less heartache 12:55 libsysguy if you want to test 12:55 libsysguy hey mib_r0crqt I have been thinking about it 12:55 clrh we are doing everyday upstreaming... 12:54 clrh magnuse: signoffing++ 12:54 Waylon long way from me doing that magnuse 12:54 magnuse upstreaming++ ;-) 12:53 kylemhall clrh: thanks! I really hope we get a patch for that soon! 12:53 * Waylon idly wonders what a 100% jquery dynamic update koha would be like. 12:53 libsysguy people that do upgrade doc…where are you :p 12:53 clrh kylemhall: I can find something somewhere :) 12:53 libsysguy damn 12:52 mib_r0crqt but nothing on upgrading 12:52 clrh kyleh__: we did something 12:52 mib_r0crqt i saw the normal install-debian and readme-debian 12:52 kyleh__ does anyone know the state of that mobile opac that was done with pure css? Has anyone heard from those people in a while? 12:52 libsysguy ok, do you see the upgrade file in there 12:52 mib_r0crqt i did download it just this morning 12:52 libsysguy what have you done to your 3.8.0 install 12:52 mib_r0crqt well .... 12:52 libsysguy if you download the latest version there should be an upgrade file in there 12:52 mib_r0crqt i see 12:51 * libsysguy really only messes with git installs 12:51 libsysguy somebody may be able to find it faster than I can 12:51 libsysguy mib_r0crqt: there is somewhere 12:51 mib_r0crqt is there any documentation on the upgrade path? 12:51 Waylon hell.. if i knew what i was getting myself into, i might not of got the job. 12:50 mib_r0crqt i did it from the tar ball 12:50 libsysguy mib_r0crqt: there is an upgrade path 12:50 Waylon yup. 12:50 libsysguy sweet baby jesus Waylon…you are in a bad place 12:50 wahanui i already had it that way, mib_r0crqt. 12:50 mib_r0crqt I've only recently install Koha 3.8.0, is there an easy way to move to Koha 3.8.1 short of just basically re-installing Koha at the 3.8.1 version? 12:50 libsysguy mib_r0crqt: did you check out from git? or did you download and unzip? 12:50 Waylon can't find a git version because they cherrypicked patches from koha trunk. 12:49 mib_r0crqt i'm looking at moving from 3.8.0 to 3.8.1 for the sake of the bug fixes 12:49 libsysguy ouch 12:49 libsysguy oh 12:49 Waylon wasn't me that modded it. 12:49 libsysguy did you use git at all Waylon? 12:49 Waylon from koha 2.0.0pre2 heavily modded to whatever is most well supported. 12:49 libsysguy mistake, and I paid for them 12:48 libsysguy i Waylon I tried to do customizations in the code at first 12:48 mib_r0crqt from what version and to what version? 12:48 * libsysguy feels your pain Waylon 12:48 Waylon so is a long road. 12:48 Waylon yeah libsysguy .... lots of mods and ungitted patches to deal with. 12:47 libsysguy Waylon, are you trying ot upgrade? 12:47 jcamins mib_r0crqt: it's very easy. Just install 3.8.1 over your current install, and it will automatically upgrade. 12:47 mib_r0crqt bywater may make the cut 12:47 mib_r0crqt well, they are still looking at vendors for support 12:46 samuel i've not many worked on it since tuesday. I will see tomorrow but thank you for your help, it's on the good way 12:46 libsysguy yeah, how are we still missing out on free lunch 12:46 mib_r0crqt yes, i'm John 12:46 * Waylon is currently having a hard time with old koha 2.0.0pre2, no real support from koha community because of version advances.... and no other coders in my employers company. So.. im envious of you libsysguy 12:46 mib_r0crqt the librarians here wanted to like buy us lunch to introduce us 12:46 libsysguy I was so hoping to get to meet up with you and the director at some point 12:45 libsysguy oh hey…is it John IRL? 12:45 mib_r0crqt yes, almost, i'm the library automation technician at TJC 12:45 libsysguy samuel how goes the ldap stuff? 12:45 mib_r0crqt that's great move for you, and i hope more money 12:44 libsysguy hey samuel 12:44 libsysguy almost mib_r0crqt? 12:44 samuel hi libsysguy 12:44 mib_r0crqt we've never met, but we almost did :) 12:44 libsysguy yeah I am pretty pumped about it 12:44 Waylon cool. 12:44 libsysguy bywater :) 12:44 mib_r0crqt where u going libsysguy? 12:43 libsysguy today is my last day at UT Tyler 12:43 mib_r0crqt I've only recently install Koha 3.8.0, is there an easy way to move to Koha 3.8.1 short of just basically re-installing Koha at the 3.8.1 version? 12:43 libsysguy hey where can I go to update my email for the devel list and the patches list, I guess bugzilla also 12:42 mib_r0crqt alo Samuel 12:42 mib_r0crqt I've a basic newguy question concerning upgrading 12:42 samuel hi everybody 12:39 jcamins fredericd++ 12:36 libsysguy thank you jenkins 12:36 jcamins Okay, jenkins says it has been. 12:34 jenkins_koha Starting build #49 for job Koha_3.6.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 12:32 jcamins Could someone please do a git fetch and confirm that 3.6.x was updated? 12:25 nengard I love limesurvey!!! 12:25 nengard paul_p glad you like that idea :) 12:18 huginn jcamins: The operation succeeded. 12:18 jcamins @later tell eythian Could you please upload a package for libtemplate-plugin-htmltotext-perl to the oldstable dist on debian.koha-community.org? 12:18 paul_p (except maybe it's a little bit close to another lime... 12:17 paul_p limesurvey++ !!! 12:10 neo_ ok 12:10 jcamins neo_: the version should be fine, but clearly there's a problem with LibXML. 12:09 neo_ i am trying to install koha 3.8.1 latest 12:09 neo_ jcamins, is the version required 12:08 neo_ i have perl-XML-LibXML-1.70-5.el6.x86_64 installed 12:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7444 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Use T::T date plugin to display dates omnibus 12:08 kylemhall I think I've found a problem caused by the patch for bug 7444. circulation.pl now only shows dates instead of date/time for due dates. 12:07 Waylon I think you need an exact version of the perl library, and of the underlying OS dependant library. 12:07 Waylon yup. so its incredibly difficult to get right. 12:06 neo_ https://metacpan.org/release/MARC-XML , says 78 pass and 682 fails 12:06 Waylon join our email list, koha-devel (address on koha-community.org site) and ask for help for Centos. Good luck, because it was a nightmare trying to get it going. 12:05 * Waylon sighs. 12:05 neo_ they policy is to use RHEL or CentOS , the sysadmin guys don't have much experience with Debian clones 12:05 jcamins I have no idea what the problem might be, or how to fix it. 12:04 Waylon right.... why Centos? 12:04 neo_ physical machine 12:04 neo_ in client's server room 12:04 Waylon inhouse? 12:04 neo_ no 12:04 neo_ ok, i will check 12:04 Waylon .... neo_..... you using a hosting management company like hostgator? 12:02 jcamins Based on the test results, there's probably a BIG problem with your LibXML installation. 12:01 neo_ the hardware is Dell PowerEdge T410 12:00 neo_ no the client need CentOS , and will get support for 7 years 11:59 Waylon can't you move to debian? 11:59 Waylon sure, ive bypassed a few in my time, when i know everything is okay, but i never totally ignored them. 11:59 neo_ ok 11:58 Waylon make tests are there for a reason. 11:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8043 normal, P3, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , today's checkouts are in Previous checkouts in circulation.pl 11:58 nengard can I get another sign off on bug 8043 - this is one that has been pissing a lot of people off and would love to see it in 3.8.2 (no new strings) 11:57 * Waylon sighs. "neo_....... you just broke your system" 11:57 Waylon So we moved to debian, and got a great koha guy to do the initial install, of which i have screen logs somewhere. 11:57 neo_ no i have installed bypassing MARC-XML make test , by make -i test 11:56 Waylon I believe i had that problem in Centos. 11:56 Waylon not having MARC::File::XML installed and working correctly is a show stopper. 11:55 Waylon neo_, its a major issue. 11:55 Waylon hiya mtj. 11:55 jcamins Waylon: however, as RMaint for 3.6.x, all the version field does is irritate me. 11:54 jcamins Yes please! 11:54 jcamins Waylon: I mean, it functions properly. 11:54 Waylon sorry, just ... couldn't resist. Anyways. I should document my setup sometime and post it in koha devel mailing list eh? 11:54 neo_ Waylon, i have installed koha in a test machine, and koha loads in webpage , now i am trying to install in a production server, so i need to make sure this is not a major issue 11:53 * Waylon giggles. 11:53 Waylon hmm.. bugzilla has a bug? 11:53 jcamins You know, the version field in Bugzilla does not work for me. 11:53 jcamins Waylon: yep. 11:53 Waylon Its also used to phrase MARCxml in biblioitems yes? 11:52 Waylon neo_: MARC::File::XML is used for C4->context for config information parsing, which happens in basically every page. 11:48 neo_ i will try in channel - perl of freenode.net 11:48 jcamins magnuse: thanks. 11:47 neo_ thank you jcamins 11:47 jcamins I don't think there is any page that doesn't use MARC::File::XML. 11:47 magnuse jcamins++ for being human, after all :-) 11:46 jcamins Yes. 11:46 neo_ is this a major module for Koha ? 11:45 jcamins Again. 11:45 jcamins I forgot to sign off when cherry picking. 11:45 jcamins Argh! 11:45 jcamins neo_: you can try, but I would expect lots of problems. 11:44 neo_ jcamins, can i go ahead with koha installation by skipping MARC-XML make test 11:44 cait thx 11:44 * magnuse agrees with jcamins, of course 11:43 cait aaw 11:43 libsysguy neo_ im with jcamins 11:43 jcamins cait: you look just fine in the group shot. 11:43 jcamins neo_: I have no idea how to fix it, but that looks like a pretty major problem, sorry. 11:42 cait try and find me :) 11:42 cait [off] http://pub.veggie.fr/biblibre/pics/index.php?sfpg=MjAxMl8wNl8wNS0xMV9Lb2hhY29uX0VkaW5idXJnaC8qKjk1NjVjZDI3NTZhZTczZDNkYTk2NGJlMjk5MzA1MmVk 11:41 neo_ anybody have an idea ? 11:39 neo_ this the error for MARC-XML make test - http://paste.koha-community.org/450 11:39 libsysguy well then just put on some glasses 11:38 cait I always look dumb on photos 11:38 libsysguy cait is the ghost of Koha 11:38 magnuse cait likes to be mysterious :-) 11:38 libsysguy :-\ 11:38 cait there are reasons 11:38 libsysguy cait you don't even have a photo on your G+ profile :p 11:37 * libsysguy has never seen cait 11:37 cait hmpf 11:37 magnuse photos_of_cait++ 11:37 libsysguy who did? 11:37 libsysguy haha 11:36 cait eek - you got photos of me!! 11:35 matts hmm, new subdomain... might have taken some time to reach all dns servers 11:35 jcamins libsysguy: hehe. 11:35 cait sorry for bothering you :) 11:35 libsysguy http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/22023846.jpg 11:35 cait it was down a bit earlier... 11:35 cait now it does 11:35 matts what's the output ? 11:34 matts really ? 11:34 cait matts: your url does not work for me :( 11:34 Waylon we'll upgrade and report our changes eventually. 11:34 * Waylon nods. 11:33 jcamins Waylon: 3.0 had fewer dependencies, I think. 11:33 libsysguy yeah, you can try, but you are likely to have a bad time 11:33 neo_ downloaded from cpan 11:33 libsysguy does it say why it failed 11:33 jcamins neo_: you can try. As you've heard, no one has used it. 11:33 neo_ i am packing it as a rpm 11:33 libsysguy ouch 11:33 neo_ no libsysguy 11:32 libsysguy is there a yum package for that package? 11:32 neo_ for MARC-XML ? 11:32 neo_ can i go with the perl module install , by skipping make test ? 11:32 Waylon Uh.... my employer had koha on centos working. admittedly its 3.0.1pre2 11:31 libsysguy koha on centos…not even once 11:31 jcamins I don't think anyone has successfully gotten Koha to work on CentOS. 11:31 cait to use debian or ubuntu 11:31 Waylon but using it as read only, im reindexing on a server, then copying the resulting set to the glusterfsd and then restarting zebra. yeah, Debian 100% easier 11:31 cait if you can it will make your life tons easier 11:31 libsysguy never again 11:31 libsysguy I tried a centos install once 11:31 neo_ cait, i am now in Kigali, Rwanda 11:31 jcamins neo_: ah, you should seriously consider using Debian. 11:31 libsysguy oh CentOS might explain your problem 11:30 neo_ CentOS 6.2 11:30 Waylon oh.. and zebrasrv lib shared too. 11:30 cait and out of interest - where are you located? :) 11:30 neo_ but make test fails 11:30 cait neo_: yes, but why :) which os are you using? which versoin of Koha are you installing? 11:30 neo_ make works fine 11:30 * Waylon managed to get koha running on a two server replicated setup. glusterfsd sharing koha directory, MySQL::Replication sharing data. humming along very nicely. 11:30 libsysguy but updates are terrible 11:30 libsysguy sure its sooo easy cpan *package name* 11:30 neo_ cait, i was compiling MARC-XML perl module 11:29 * libsysguy has his prod server beyond messed up because he used cpan unknowingly 11:29 libsysguy this ^^ 11:29 jcamins_away Don't use CPAN. 11:28 wahanui "What are you trying to do?" "What is the goal?" or "What problem are you experiencing?" 11:28 cait first question? 11:28 cait neo_: fist question? 11:28 libsysguy *whistles* 11:27 drojf koha-community.koha after some fork takes koha.koha :D 11:27 cait true.koha 11:27 libsysguy mind = blown 11:27 cait libsysguy: libaries are not exactly known to have lots of money to spare ;) 11:27 drojf koha.koha 11:27 neo_ cait, any idea ? 11:27 neo_ cait, make test , fails for MARC-XML-0.93 11:27 libsysguy cait.koha 11:26 libsysguy uttyler.koha 11:26 libsysguy we could sell the domains off to libraries to make some of the money back :p 11:26 libsysguy haha cait 11:26 cait hi neo_ 11:26 cait ;) 11:26 cait imgine would dev we could get done for that prize 11:26 neo_ hi 11:25 libsysguy plus some crazy yearly fee 11:25 libsysguy i think it is like $25,000 upfront 11:25 libsysguy so with all the tld's for sale has anybody considered buying .koha for whatever ICANN has them priced at? 11:08 kyleh just testing 11:05 * mveron On the way to weekly Koha meeting 10:36 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8043 normal, P3, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , today's checkouts are in Previous checkouts in circulation.pl 10:36 kyleh just submitted a new patch for bug 8043, needs signoff it anyone is interested. Really simple to test. 10:25 magnuse yay! 10:12 matts hey #koha, here are the pics i've taken (and gathered) from kohacon12 : http://pub.veggie.fr/biblibre/pics 09:59 cait mveron: that's the magic of koha :) 09:57 mveron Thanks. Dischwasher cooking is spreading all around the world 09:56 drojf mveron++ # special cooking 09:56 mveron True! :-) 09:56 drojf :D 09:56 * mveron will fetch some couscous with tomato, feta and olives out of his dish washer 09:55 drojf off to the non-koha office. have a nice day everybody 09:54 drojf i can imagine that. i was, and i had to get up much later 09:54 mveron Yes, I had, but I was very tired... 09:53 drojf mveron: did you have a good trip home? 09:53 mveron ..drojf. Shoud put my glasses 09:53 * mveron waves to drojf 09:52 drojf hi mveron 09:52 mveron gmcharlt: I've been told that you can approve my account manually? 09:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7621 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, veron, Signed Off , Circulation: Match age restriction of title with borrower's age without using categories 09:51 mveron gmcharlt: I'd like to update the Wiki regarding Bug 7621, but I do not get a confirmation mail for my account. 09:51 * mveron waves to cait 09:51 cait hi mveron :) 09:49 mveron Hi everybody 09:42 magnuse :-) 09:42 cait god dag :) 09:41 magnuse guten tag cait 09:41 cait hi magnuse :) 09:39 magnuse kia ora drojf 09:39 drojf hi magnuse 09:32 * magnuse waves 09:21 cait :) 09:21 clrh thanks but then thanks to my team a lot too ;) 09:20 cait for the nice writeups on the wiki and ansering mailing list mails :) 09:20 cait you deserve lots :) 09:19 clrh cait: again? :) 09:17 cait clrh++ :) 09:08 * drojf detects a lack of full scottish breakfast 08:55 cait drojf: not really.. at least started unpacking now 08:52 Waylon mtj, its not a multi-koha server, its a multi-server koha 08:35 drojf have you adjusted to germany already? 08:34 drojf alright, but i spent most of it in bed. have to leave for the other office soon, don't really feel like that 08:33 cait drojf: how is being back? 08:31 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7810 normal, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Master , C4/Auth.pm - on plack restart session is undefined 08:31 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7444 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Use T::T date plugin to display dates omnibus 08:31 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7941 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, chris, Pushed to Stable , Fix version numbers in modules and set up a system to keep them up to date 08:31 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8171 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Improper escaping of quotes during z39.50 queries leads to broken html 08:31 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8201 major, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Stable , can't change receive date 08:31 jenkins_koha * dpavlin: Bug 7810 - C4/Auth.pm - on plack restart session is undefined 08:31 jenkins_koha * koha.sekjal: Bug 7444: Update circ/circulation.pl to use KohaDates TT Plugin 08:31 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 7941 : Module versions bumped pre release 08:31 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4838 normal, P3, ---, frederic, Pushed to Stable , Repeated authority headings break biblio record data entry form 08:31 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 7941 : Fix version numbers in modules 08:31 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 8171 - Improper escaping of quotes during z39.50 queries leads to broken html 08:31 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 8201: Receive date not passed through correctly 08:31 jenkins_koha * f.demians: Bug 4838 Fix repeated authorities selection 08:31 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #54: SUCCESS in 50 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/54/ 08:11 drojf moin cait :) 08:11 cait morning drojf :) 07:49 drojf good morning #koha 07:41 jenkins_koha Starting build #54 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 07:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8166 minor, P1 - high, ---, amit.gupta, Pushed to Stable , Adding new currencies & exchange rates if not fill any field it save blank record 07:40 jenkins_koha * amit.gupta: Bug 8166 - Adding new currencies & exchange rates 07:40 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Fixing tabs in docs/history.txt 07:40 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Adding Shari Perkins as contributor 07:40 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #53: SUCCESS in 52 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/53/ 07:38 cait mona: mtj is right - we will not be able to help you with this version I fear :( I personally have never seen or used it 07:35 mtj mona: koha.2.9 is veeeey old, why not use koha.3? 07:28 mona in 2.9 version we can n`t fill parameter properly please help me how to fill 07:12 cait hi gaetan_B :) 07:09 gaetan_B bonjour #koha 07:00 matts yay :) 07:00 cait hi Joubu! 07:00 cait lucky :) 07:00 matts they weren't pouting at all ! They were all purrrrrrr 07:00 Joubu hi all 06:59 cait hi matts :) how are your kittens? glad to have you back or pouting? :) 06:58 matts hi ! 06:54 cait hi all :) 06:53 wahanui salut, reiveune 06:53 reiveune hello 06:52 wahanui hi, julian_m 06:52 julian_m hello 06:48 jenkins_koha Starting build #53 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 06:32 alex_a bonjour koha 06:22 francharb morning 06:22 francharb moring 06:09 mtj so, worst case, the session log might be goofy for a multi-koha server 06:07 mtj Waylo,n fyi: /tmp/sessionlog looks safe, its only ever written too... 06:06 mtj oops, looks like it is, sorry... :) 06:01 mtj Waylon: are you sure the session-log file is related to Koha? 03:11 Waylon so why do we have sessionlog? 03:11 Waylon yeah, there is a session table in database 03:10 wajasu i thought there was a session table in the database. so if thats shared, maybe your auth is ok. 03:05 * Waylon is using glusterfsd 03:04 wajasu correct. but two servers sharing with some sort of file locking/coordination would be in order. i haven't looked at the koha code. maybe if you google koha cluster, you can find a docutmented setup. 03:02 Waylon but if thats not true, that each request is evaluated and sent to the current lowest cpu usage, id need to share the sessionlog? 03:00 wajasu somehow, the load balanger/gateway is configured to use something like the user cookie, to determine where the users is working, and routing the reuests to the same server. in that case, the /tmp/sessionlog should be ok. 03:00 bag evening 03:00 Waylon so.. should sync the sessionlog file too? 02:59 * Waylon is replicating the mysql db 02:59 Waylon session affinity? 02:58 wajasu The file /tmp/sessionlog contains login and out details. i don't know about how to set up a cluster. Maybe if you have load balancing infront of the koha servers, with session affinity, its ok to use separate ones. 02:43 Waylon hiya all. the /tmp/sessionlog file, whats it used for? for a 2 server cluster, does /tmp/sessionlog need to be shared, in order for koha to work correctly? 01:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7815 minor, P5 - low, ---, sophie.meynieux, Pushed to Stable , Order pickup library list by name rather than by code 01:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8178 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Stable , circ/circulation.pl under plack duplicates checkout rows 01:54 jenkins_koha * sophie.meynieux: Bug 7815 : Order pickup libraries list by name rather than by code 01:54 jenkins_koha * dpavlin: Bug 8178 - circ/circulation.pl under plack duplicates checkout rows 01:54 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #52: SUCCESS in 50 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/52/ 01:03 jenkins_koha Starting build #52 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)