Time  Nick         Message
01:01 wajasu       well.  i got the vm with the koha-dev, and the kohaclone mounted over sshfs working.  now i can code on my host OS, and execute the results in my VM.
05:39 cait-m_      waves
05:51 mtj          morning cait-m_and #kohacon
05:51 cait-m_      hi mtj :-)
05:55 mtj          random perl Q... anyone recommend a good perl CRUD framework?
05:57 mtj          maypole or catalyst perhaps?
05:58 mtj          hmm, no active dev on maypole since 2008... :/ -> http://search.cpan.org/~teejay/Maypole-2.13/
06:15 cait-m_      bit too early here still i think
06:15 mtj          i think i'll go with catalyst for now... its just a little toy app i'm working on
07:04 slef         liw: sorry to hear that. I'll make sure we're aware
07:04 slef         liw: get better soon
07:40 mtj          rangi: about?
07:45 * paul_p     head to hackfest...
08:01 Oak          Ahoy me hearties
08:02 mleaway      Ahoy
08:30 drojf        morning
08:30 mveron       Good morning #koha
08:35 sophie_m     hello
08:35 wahanui      what's up, sophie_m
08:42 dpavlin      mtj: try http://jifty.org/ It's a full framework (which owns your model and forms), but IMHO nicer CRUD in perl ;-)
08:42 clrh         http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Kohacon12Hackfest sophie_m
08:43 matts        hello !
08:43 mrenvoize    ooh.. it's changed wince last night.. no more debian packing.
08:44 mrenvoize    :)
08:44 alex_a       bonjour!
08:44 mrenvoize    hello..
08:44 eythian      mrenvoize: I'm going to try to roll some of that into the koha packaging, liw is sick and unable to make it.
08:45 mtompset     Greetings, #koha.
08:46 mtompset     Greetings, marcelr.
08:47 marcelr      hi mtompset
09:03 mtj          dpavlin:  thanx, looking now... :)
09:13 * cait       waves
09:14 cait         if someone else has a problem with getting in - mibbit works
09:22 cait         hi magnuse
09:22 cait         how is the little one doing?
09:22 clrh         matts: you can save 2 kittens ;) bug 5337
09:23 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5337 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, matthias.meusburger, Failed QA , acq EAN search
09:23 matts        :)
09:23 magnuse      cait: eating and sleeping :-)
09:23 cait         sounds like everything is like it should be
09:23 marcelr      matts: should not be too hard to save these kittens :-)
09:28 rangi        https://etherpad.catalyst.net.nz/93KWcUdVf5
09:30 rangi        https://etherpad.catalyst.net.nz/93KWcUdVf5
09:31 mle          bigger tablea requested for tommorrows hackfest.  they are not as pretty, but i dont think anyone will care?
09:31 kyleh_       Bug 7153 has now been rebased with an additional patch added for qa purposes. needs signoff
09:31 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7153 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, savitra.sirohi, Needs Signoff , Show Open Library as Search Target in "More Searches" in OPAC detail page
09:34 liw          slef, thanks
09:35 marcelr      rangi: moved your signed off to qa status: kitten too??
09:36 rangi        hmm yep, ill add another column
09:36 cait         mle: I think bigger tables will be good with all the laptops
09:48 slef         mle: coffee just arrived. I though you ordered it for tomorrow?
09:49 jenkins_koha Starting build #743 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED)
09:51 clrh         what does mean feedback in kohacon12hackfest page ?
09:51 cait         clrh: the feedback session is like in marseille - everyone getting together, tlaking about what they did during the day
09:52 clrh         ok cait  :)
09:53 clrh         like a retrospective of the day :)
09:53 clrh         I wear headphones, it is not because I don't like you, don't hesitate to pcome and talk to me!
09:53 huginn`      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7818 Add UNIMARC biblio records zebra DOM def files <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=38b375b32ca899ed4981da5072500786a4a1f197> / Bug 7818: add warning about not editing record.abs when using DOM filter <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1f88669152f44eda98512cedec6c30c37e5ece23> / Bug 7818: update comment to clarify availability of DOM index mode <http://git.
09:53 matts        same as clrh :)
10:00 marcelr      testing
10:01 cait         clrh: listening to some good music? :)
10:01 marcelr      mrenvoize++
10:01 marcelr      just do not know who you are in the room :-)
10:02 mrenvoize    ;).. sitting next to colin.. most people know him :p
10:02 marcelr      behind you
10:02 mrenvoize    certianly is a challenge matching names and faces to aliases
10:09 mtj          hi kohacon, hope the hackfest is going well :)
10:11 cait         clrh: workign with marc on 5335
10:12 rangi        bug 5312 is a really really easy sign off
10:12 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5312 minor, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, fridolyn.somers, Needs Signoff , XHTML correction in authority summary
10:14 magnuse      I hereby pledge to send a small box of norwegian chocolate or "Trollhunter" on DVD (your choice) to whoever saves the most kittens on http://scoreboard.koha-community.org/ before the end of kohacon12!
10:17 marcelr      magnuse++
10:19 cait         clrh: can I ask some things about th epatch?
10:27 clrh         yep
10:40 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #743: SUCCESS in 51 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/743/
10:40 jenkins_koha * srdjan: bug_8138: added 773$t field to search results
10:40 jenkins_koha * gmc: Bug 7818: update installer for biblio DOM indexing
10:40 jenkins_koha * gmc: Bug 7818: update miscellaneous installer scripts
10:40 jenkins_koha * gmc: Bug 7818: utility to generate DOM indexing configs
10:40 jenkins_koha * gmc: Bug 7818: move koha-indexdefs-to-zebra.xsl
10:40 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7818 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , support DOM mode for Zebra indexing of bibliographic records
10:40 jenkins_koha * gmc: Bug 7818: add index_data_field option to DOM indexing repertoire
10:40 jenkins_koha * gmc: Bug 7818: Zebra DOM filter index definitions for MARC21 bibs
10:40 jenkins_koha * gmc: Bug 7818: -x option of rebuild_zebra.pl now works with DOM filter
10:40 jenkins_koha * gmc: Bug 7818: use Title-cover for title phrase weighting
10:40 jenkins_koha * gmc: Bug 7818: update comment to clarify availability of DOM index mode
10:40 jenkins_koha * gmc: Bug 7818: add warning about not editing record.abs when using DOM filter
10:40 jenkins_koha * f.demians: Bug 7818 Add UNIMARC biblio records zebra DOM def files
10:41 * alex_a     is proud of having saved a kitten
10:43 drojf        damn connection limit
10:44 alex_a       no. 2 kittens \o/
10:46 rangi        :)
10:50 matts        alex_a, what's the page with the kittens again ?
10:51 asaurat      matts: http://scoreboard.koha-community.org/
10:52 matts        thx
10:53 matts        rangi, just rescued a patch... 2 kittens are now free from the domo-kuns :))
10:53 rangi        yay!
10:54 rangi        matts: was it 5337 ?
10:54 matts        marcelr, the recently-freed kittens are now in your hands... Please act responsibly ;)
10:55 matts        rangi, yes, it was
10:55 rangi        cool
11:08 paul_p       marcelr = QAing bug 8092
11:08 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8092 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Koha should use CHI caching framework
11:17 * marcelr    does not like to kill kittens. I am just putting 7955 to sleep now..
11:19 paul_p       clrh for the mindmap of koha tools = chrome://echofon/content/user-view.xul?screen_name=KohaJenkins
11:19 paul_p       marcelr QAing bug 7805 (from you)
11:19 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7805 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Signed Off , Exposing the new list permissions in opac and staff
11:23 clrh         paul_p: I dont understand
11:24 marcelr      matts: will be revisiting your bug 5337; lets get that kitten run again!
11:24 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5337 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, matthias.meusburger, Signed Off , acq EAN search
11:24 matts        thanks !
11:27 matts        cait, cait1, do you feel like checking 7412 again ? It still needs to be signed-off...
11:27 cait1        I am still only 1 :)
11:27 matts        :)
11:28 cait         is this some kind of conspiracy? ;)
11:30 jcamins      o/
11:31 matts        alex_a, je cherche
11:31 matts        bouge pas
11:31 alex_a       matts: thx
11:37 alex_a       matts: "exists $ENV{'HTTP_HOST'};" => could it work ?
11:37 matts        alex_a, http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5600
11:37 huginn`      04Bug 5600: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , Bulk MARC biblio export script
11:38 clrh         we go at indian - moskey kitchen with sophie_m I think
11:41 jcamins      clrh: ooh, that's a great place to eat.
11:47 jcamins      http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/C_%26_P_Authority_Control_Improvements_RFC
11:50 * jcamins    writes an e-mail to koha-devel requesting comments.
12:16 jcamins      Ugh.
12:16 * jcamins    holds his nose and installs Ubuntu on this netbook.
12:19 mbalmer      wb
12:20 mbalmer      MARC is getting me brain cramps..
12:20 drojf        that's what MARC is for ;)
12:21 mbalmer      btw, I think it's one of these recursive acronyme like GNU, and stands for MARC's A Real Crime...
12:22 drojf        heh
12:22 jcamins      lol
12:23 jcamins      For the record, I HATE WINDOWS!!
12:23 jcamins      windows--
12:26 thd          Where is KohaCon streaming?
12:27 jcamins      thd: it isn't.
12:27 thd          jcamins: Was there a difficulty even during the main conference?
12:27 jcamins      thd: there was never any streaming.
12:28 marcelr      but they recorded, so ..
12:28 drojf        thd: it would probably not be too interested to have a stream of us now
12:28 drojf        interesting even
12:29 thd          drojf: Are you not always interesting?
12:32 * thd        returns to repay his huge sleep debt acquired during a competing conference.
12:33 marcelr      looking at bug 6835
12:33 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6835 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, alex.arnaud, Signed Off , Ability to specify types of email address in overdue_notices.pl
12:38 matts        francharb, Zombie Walk 2011 @ Strasbourg : https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/308791_2112554446731_45291959_n.jpg
12:39 mveron       kf: https://etherpad.catalyst.net.nz/93KWcUdVf5
12:39 cait         lol
12:40 * jcamins    boots up Ubuntu on the netbook.
12:46 marcelr      alex_a, matts: please answer question on bug 6835
12:46 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6835 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, alex.arnaud, Signed Off , Ability to specify types of email address in overdue_notices.pl
12:46 matts        marcelr, ok, will look at it
12:47 * jcamins    pounds his head against Unity.
12:48 marcelr      careful
12:49 jcamins      I want to start a program.
12:49 jcamins      It shouldn't be this hard.
12:49 alex_a       matts: i let you answer ?
12:50 matts        alex_a, i'm looking at it right now
12:50 matts        yes
12:51 alex_a       matts: it seems to be the patch i stole you few weeks ago :D
12:51 matts        ^^
12:51 matts        you're a patch-stoler thief !
12:51 mbalmer      jcamins, upgrade you netbook to windows then ;P
12:51 alex_a       Yes, but it's just because i want save kittens
12:52 jcamins      mbalmer: I was just using Windows on the netbook.
12:52 jcamins      I had mouse lag.
12:52 jcamins      *Mouse* lag.
12:52 mrenvoize    @jcamins: all hail gnome shell... unity truly does suck.
12:52 huginn`      mrenvoize: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
12:53 slef         ah so?
12:53 wahanui      ah so is there no charge from ALA for the meetup?
12:54 mrenvoize    huginn: erm.. i don't remember asking a question?
12:54 * cait1      rescued first kitten today :)
12:54 mrenvoize    congrats cait
12:54 slef         mrenvoize: you started with an @ so huginn` thinks you gave him a broken instruction
12:54 slef         @quote random
12:54 * drojf1     eats cait1's kitten
12:54 huginn`      slef: Quote #63: "<jwagner> But no one expects the Spammish Inquisition!" (added by jdavidb at 01:50 PM, March 01, 2010)
12:54 cait1        !
12:54 eythian      jcamins: have you tried typing the name of the program into the box?
12:55 cait1        drojf1: you sure look like a person who would do that... hiding between all you rbottles over there :P
12:55 marcelr      paul_p: bug 5911 something for you now? first in list, but quite large and more complicated..
12:55 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5911 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, srdjan, Signed Off , Transport Cost Matrix of transporting an item between branches
12:55 drojf1       heh
12:55 drojf1       do you like my little bar?
12:55 paul_p       marcelr right (i'm on it)
12:55 marcelr      drojf: so you are mirko
12:55 marcelr      :-)
12:55 drojf1       marcelr: yup
12:56 paul_p       marcelr sorry, I forgot to claim it here...
12:56 marcelr      ok
12:56 jcamins      Does anyone know how to start a terminal in Unity?
12:56 jcamins      Ooh!
12:56 jcamins      Of course.
12:56 jcamins      Just use a VT.
12:56 cait1        type in terminal in the search thingy
12:56 cait1        vt?
12:56 eythian      jcamins: type 'terminal'
12:56 marcelr      paul_p: i look at bug 8167
12:56 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8167 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Signed Off , Add syspref allow a choice of blocking, non-blocking, or do nothing when issuing lost items.
12:56 eythian      into the program box
12:57 eythian      like, click the button at the top-left of the screen with the ubuntu logo, and type into that.
12:57 jcamins      Alas, that's what I've been trying.
12:57 eythian      it works
12:57 eythian      I just tested it
12:58 mrenvoize    ctrl + alt + t starts a terminal i believe
12:58 eythian      if you click the applications button at the bottom, that may help
12:58 mrenvoize    or jsut alt (to bring up the HUD) and type terminal
12:58 matts        marcelr, answered
12:58 jcamins      Woo!
12:58 jcamins      Ctrl+alt+t worked.
12:58 eythian      (I think the applications button is too undiscoverable)
12:58 jcamins      mrenvoize++
12:58 eythian      mrenvoize: the HUD is the menu thing: you can't search for programs in there generally
12:59 mrenvoize    ;).. my favourite shortcut of the day..
12:59 mrenvoize    i assumed.. i got rid of unity about a day after in updated to 12.04 so hadn't actually played..
12:59 alex_a       rangi: it seems that enhancement of the bug 5771 now exists in master. Can you confirm ?
12:59 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5771 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, alex.arnaud, Failed QA , Better error handling for import borrowers - Provide a download file of errors
13:00 eythian      mrenvoize: I quite like it, it stays out of my way but makes it easy to do things when I do need to.
13:00 eythian      I find I'm much faster than with the old way
13:00 matts        paul_p, just answered your question on 6835
13:01 jcamins      mrenvoize: since you solved that problem, any idea how to switch to XFCE, other than rerunning the installer?
13:01 marcelr      matts, paul_p: i will look too
13:01 eythian      jcamins: you install xubuntu-desktop I think
13:01 rangi        alex_a: yep i think so, will check more, that one is actually a biblibre patch i rescued once before :)
13:02 eythian      once that's done, you get the option from the login screen
13:02 jcamins      eythian: ah, thanks.
13:02 eythian      (note: haven't done this)
13:02 marcelr      matts, paul_p: the query is lighter but we still talk about one record
13:03 eythian      jcamins: going to spend a bit of time working out the oldstable thing now
13:03 matts        yeah, but called many times
13:03 alex_a       rangi: ok
13:03 jcamins      eythian: thanks!
13:03 rangi        alex_a: hmm maybe you still can't download a report of the errors? it just prints it to the browser?
13:04 rangi        MT 2984, if you want to look in mantis
13:04 eythian      heh, unity is picking up all the BBC iplayer things that it has to ignore when I'm at home. Will have to play with that when I'm not doing other stuff.
13:04 jcamins      Actually, the system is surprisingly fast, aside from the application search not working.
13:05 eythian      jcamins: did you click the application button?
13:05 jcamins      eythian: yep.
13:05 jcamins      It just kind of spins its wheels for ages.
13:05 mrenvoize    jcamins: looks like eythian answered that one for me ;)
13:05 eythian      jcamins: like, the one at the bottom?
13:05 jcamins      Yup.
13:05 eythian      hrm
13:05 jcamins      eythian: I think Unity was not intended for netbooks.
13:05 eythian      maybe the first run is still indexing things or something, not sure.
13:05 francharb    testing holds is a pain in the ...
13:05 francharb    0~°
13:05 eythian      I have it on a netbook, but it's been there for a long time.
13:06 mrenvoize    Unity is definitely getting better... but it's still got a way to go in my opinion.... anywho.. back to this patch.
13:06 alex_a       rangi: I've applied the new patch. But i didn't find the way for download the report. Can you tell me how to do that ?
13:07 clrh         First draft done, I would need feedback on http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/SearchEngine_Layer_RFC
13:07 clrh         (installation doc to test and start)
13:07 clrh         afk
13:09 * eythian    needs to figure out why there's a 3.2 still in the repo
13:10 cait         eythian: just fixed a conflict in your patch ;)
13:10 eythian      cait: cool :) which patch?
13:11 eythian      mrenvoize: did you do something weird with the patch for 7671?
13:11 eythian      mrenvoize: it's From and Signed-Off by the same person, neither of which are you.
13:13 jcamins      clrh: descartes.biblibre.com will not resolve.
13:15 jcamins      (so I can't see the search engine layer)
13:15 eythian      jcamins:
13:15 eythian      $ host descartes.biblibre.com
13:15 eythian      descartes.biblibre.com has address 212.85.154.30
13:16 jcamins      Hm.
13:16 jcamins      I'm able to resolve every other git repo.
13:16 eythian      Something funny with your DNS?
13:16 jcamins      Oh, it wasn't resolving the DNS that was the problem.
13:16 jcamins      It was resolving the git reference.
13:17 jcamins      (talk about an unclear error message!)
13:17 eythian      Ah
13:17 eythian      tricky
13:18 eythian      jcamins: OK, on a scale of 1 to impossible, adding oldstable looks to be super easy
13:18 jcamins      eythian: :D
13:18 * eythian    expects loud headphone music to help too
13:19 eythian      I might use this as a chance to automate the version builds: currently I do them totally by hand.
13:19 jcamins      Good idea!
13:19 jcamins      You saw my release tool?
13:20 jcamins      http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=release-tools.git
13:20 francharb    i just mapped an item subfield... is there a rebuild items table script in koha? i don't think there is one but just in case...
13:21 eythian      jcamins: I can't say I had seen that.
13:22 jcamins      Oh, the latest hasn't been pushed.
13:22 eythian      francharb: I thought there was...
13:22 jcamins      Oh, that's not the repo I meant to send you to...
13:22 jcamins      https://github.com/jcamins/release-tools
13:22 jcamins      That's the one.
13:22 jcamins      release-tool.pl is the relevant script.
13:23 eythian      francharb: however, I can't find it.
13:26 francharb    eythian, neither do i... thanks anyway
13:26 francharb    ;)
13:26 eythian      jcamins: ah right. I have something similar that I use for our internal deploys, with a small amount of tweaking, it'll work for the public builds too. Though, I'd like to integrate updating the changelog and such into it too.
13:27 jcamins      eythian: yeah, I'd like that as well. If you know how to do that, any pointers would be welcomed. :)
13:27 eythian      I'll see how I go with making a script for it :)
13:29 eythian      I think I may also start putting things into repos and config files so I can make them more public.
13:29 jcamins      Yay!
13:29 jcamins      eythian++
13:30 jcamins      I have to RMaint for 3.6.6.
13:33 * Oak        waves
13:56 francharb    jcamins, hi!
13:56 francharb    jcamins,
13:56 wahanui      jcamins, is there something identifiably unique about them?
13:56 francharb    you did a comment on this : http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6976
13:56 huginn`      04Bug 6976: major, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, colin.campbell, Needs Signoff , User hold limit can be avoided by users in OPAC
13:56 francharb    Did you test it?
13:56 jcamins      francharb: I did not, no.
13:57 francharb    So far, I tried 2 differents set up
13:57 francharb    and I cant reproduce the bug
13:57 hdl          wahanui: forget jcamins
13:57 wahanui      hdl: I forgot jcamins
13:57 jcamins      francharb: I was going to, but since apparently the solution wasn't suitable, I decided not to bother.
13:57 francharb    jcamins, apparently...
13:58 francharb    but It's a good oppurtunity to work on all these hold problems
13:58 hdl          jcamins is A-Grade developper on Koha willing to rewrite it from top to bottom. Good Luck jcamins
13:58 francharb    :)
13:59 eythian      francharb: if you feel like making it so that reserve fees work consistently, that'd be great ;)
14:00 francharb    eythian, I will need more than 3 days I think! ;)
14:00 jcamins      hdl: thanks!
14:00 jcamins      I sure need it!
14:01 eythian      francharb: when I get the change I'm going to rewrite that bit, it didn't look to terrible to replace.
14:01 eythian      *chance
14:02 jcamins      rangi: patches rescued are worth two kittens?
14:05 slef         jcamins: AFAIK yes
14:05 rangi        yep thats right
14:08 cait1        rangi: what?
14:08 cait1        why did nobody tell me!
14:08 cait1        heh :)
14:08 clrh         back
14:08 jcamins      clrh: did you eat at the mosque? :)
14:09 clrh         yeah! really good ;)
14:09 jcamins      Mmmm.
14:10 jcamins      One of my favorites. I didn't try it until very close to the end of my stay.
14:10 clrh         dis it ok for git clone jcamins ?
14:10 jcamins      clrh: there was a typo on the wiki page, so I fixed it. :)
14:11 clrh         thx ;)
14:11 rangi        alex_a: hmm i dont actually now, i just reformatted the patch (to template::toolkit)
14:12 alex_a       rangi: it's ok for this patch. I sent a follow up
14:16 jcamins      Huh. XFCE looks almost exactly like Mac OSX.
14:16 * Oak        uses xfce
14:17 rangi        alex_a: ahh that means a rescue and a patch!
14:17 jcamins      Oak: I'm hoping it's enough lighter weight than Unity to make Koha on this netbook not painful.
14:17 rangi        3 kittens
14:17 Oak          very very light
14:17 jcamins      Plus, Unity makes me sad.
14:17 jcamins      It felt like failing patches.
14:17 Oak          it made linux sad
14:18 Oak          it made linus sad
14:19 Oak          first one a typo
14:19 Oak          was*
14:20 Oak          2 and a half kittens and that's the final offer
14:20 eythian      I'm not really one for taking Linus's advice for desktop stuff though :)
14:20 Oak          eythian, how so?
14:21 Oak          i mean elaborate
14:21 eythian      because it's not his field, beyond using a computer for a while.
14:22 cait1        if I rebase someting- do I put in a sign-off but change back to needs sign-off for another set of eyes?
14:22 cait1        or just don't add any line?
14:22 huginn`      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6267: [SIGNED-OFF]Fix a typo <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8caef646802d390b7c7fe3d6c7b618ef5067127b> / Bug 7805: Exposing the new list permissions in opac and staff <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d7a7aaad7b66ecf63321b9c4c83703ac9faf0150> / Bug 8092 follow-up: Add optional dependency on CHI <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff
14:22 rangi        ou can do either
14:22 rangi        you even
14:24 rangi        alex_a: you are now in second place
14:25 alex_a       rangi: \o/
14:27 alex_a       rangi:  Note that i do that for the kittens. Not for a bottle of wine ;)
14:27 marcelr      rangi: where is the score board?
14:28 rangi        http://scoreboard.koha-community.org/
14:28 rangi        alex_a: just for you, i added a kitten photo
14:29 alex_a       so cute :)
14:30 cait1        we love the kitten
14:33 jcamins      Aww.
14:33 jenkins_koha Starting build #744 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
14:34 * jcamins    prods the netbook.
14:37 marcelr      looking at bug 7304
14:37 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7304 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Signed Off , Working on funds ergonomic display and funds management by multi librarians
14:41 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #744: FAILURE in 7 min 29 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/744/
14:41 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 8187 - [SIGNED-OFF] Batch patron modification missing from tools sidebar menu
14:41 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: Bug 8195: Selected link must be bold (in admin and tools)
14:41 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 8119 - Show hint when disabling active currency checkbox
14:41 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: Bug 8119 - Followup Show hint when disabling active currency checkbox
14:41 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: Bug 8196: FIX for Bug 5742: All extended attributes are shown when editing a patron
14:41 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 8092: Convert Koha::Cache to use CHI
14:41 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 8092 follow-up: Add optional dependency on CHI
14:41 jenkins_koha * m.de.rooy: Bug 7805: Exposing the new list permissions in opac and staff
14:41 jenkins_koha * f.demians: Bug 6267: [SIGNED-OFF]Fix a typo
14:41 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8187 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Batch patron modification missing from tools sidebar menu
14:41 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8195 minor, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , The selected link in include menus must be bold
14:41 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8119 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Show hint when disabling active currency checkbox
14:41 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8196 minor, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , members/memberentry.pl?op=add shows all extended attribute values from database
14:41 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5742 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , batch edit patrons
14:41 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8092 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Koha should use CHI caching framework
14:41 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7805 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Exposing the new list permissions in opac and staff
14:41 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6267 trivial, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , custom http user-agent in check-url.pl (fix for books.google.com 401 error)
14:41 jcamins      Hm.
14:41 jcamins      That's kind of odd...
14:42 jcamins      00-load.t shouldn't have tried to load Koha::Cache::Memory.
14:42 rangi        it will if something else does
14:43 jcamins      rangi: hmmm... the patch I submitted doesn't load Koha::Cache::Memory at any point.
14:43 jcamins      It's all can_load.
14:44 jcamins      Ohhh... I bet I know why.
14:44 jcamins      I bet it's TEST_QA.
14:45 jcamins      My commit hook doesn't use that, only my release script.
14:45 * jcamins    will try to come up with a quick patch to fix this.
14:47 Oak          :)
14:47 Oak          jcamins++
14:47 * jcamins    pokes vigorously.
14:48 jcamins      Yep. Still no idea what that does, but it does something.
14:49 jcamins      rangi: what does TEST_QA do?
14:50 rangi        means perlcritic tests run
14:51 jcamins      Hm. So why does it make a difference with 00-load.t?
14:51 rangi        shouldn't
14:52 jcamins      Weird.
14:52 jcamins      Well, a patch will be coming in a few.
14:52 rangi        00-testcritic.t uses it
14:54 jcamins      Well, here's a patch.
14:56 jcamins      Oh, I see why.
14:57 * jcamins    wasn't on the same branches.
14:58 jcamins      Patch uploaded.
14:58 jcamins      The screen on the netbook has gone black. I am not feeling this is a good sign.
14:59 Oak          could be the screensaver
14:59 jcamins      Oak: that's what I thought, but nothing I do seems to disable it.
15:00 Oak          uh oh
15:00 jcamins      Yeah, and I didn't remember to install SSH.
15:00 jcamins      Apparently.
15:00 Oak          :)
15:02 cait1        gmcharlt around?
15:02 jcamins      Yay! I got to a VT.
15:02 cait1        vt?
15:02 jcamins      Virtual Terminal.
15:03 jcamins      Press Ctrl-Alt-[0-6]
15:03 wajasu       is there a koha-common source deb package somewhere?
15:03 jcamins      F0-6, sorry.
15:03 jcamins      wajasu: it's the same as the binary packages.
15:03 jcamins      F1-6.
15:03 jcamins      There is no F0.
15:04 jcamins      I don't know what this netbook is doing.
15:04 jcamins      It won't let me login.
15:04 jcamins      I type the user name, and it times out before giving me the password prompt.
15:05 jcamins      Woo! Got to a password prompt!
15:07 jcamins      Ugh. I hate nullmailer. I need to remove it from the dependencies on my Koha packages.
15:07 jcamins      If someone wanted to sign off on my latest followup to bug 8092, that'll cheer up Jenkins.
15:07 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8092 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Koha should use CHI caching framework
15:10 jcamins      Incidentally, let this be a warning to everyone to clean up their branches every so often.
15:11 mle          #kohacon hackfest.  we have been asked to vacate by 17:00
15:12 rangi        ahh
15:13 rangi        ill yell that in a mintue
15:13 mle          argh
15:13 mle          : )
15:13 mle          well it may take quite some time to clear up all cables etc.
15:13 jcamins      I have decided I like XFCE.
15:18 Oak          :)
15:18 Oak          xfce-goodies installed?
15:19 Oak          xfce4-goodies, rather
15:19 jcamins      Oak: I don't think so.
15:19 Oak          hm
15:19 mrenvoize    jcamins... wave for real.. who are you? :p
15:20 jcamins      mrenvoize: huh?
15:20 jcamins      mrenvoize: I'm not at Kohacon.
15:20 mrenvoize    no worries.. your not here
15:20 Oak          install those, and xarchiver thunar-archive-plugin thunar-thumbnailers and pcmanfm if you prefer a file manager with tabs support.
15:21 cait1        mrenvoize: jcamins did the remote presentation with video - so you did see him :)
15:22 sophie_m     cait1: could you explain me why Bug 7329 does not work for you ?
15:22 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7329 critical, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, christophe.croullebois, Failed QA , The "undo import into catalog" command deletes items onloan without checking
15:24 cait1        sophie_m: perhaps - it's been a while
15:24 cait1        can we take a look tomorrow?
15:25 cait1        I think undoing the import didn ot work correctly
15:25 cait1        I undid the import and some records were not removed, but I couldn't see the bibnumbers for those in the table any longer
15:27 sophie_m     ok, cait1, I'll try on my own, and ask you tomorrow if I need more information
15:30 matts        jcamins, did you have to time to have a new look at Bug 5600 ?
15:30 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5600 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , Bulk MARC biblio export script
15:32 Oak          sophie_m++
15:33 jcamins      matts: I did not.
15:33 * jcamins    is still struggling to get the netbook set up so he can do testing and signoffs.
15:33 matts        okay !
15:34 matts        Do you have a new netbook ?
15:34 matts        (hence the problems?)
15:35 jcamins      matts: yeah, I'm going to be using my wife's netbook this weekend.
15:35 matts        ouch... Netbooks are not usually know for being linux-friendly
15:36 matts        s/know/known/
15:36 sophie_m     Oak : why this ++ ?
15:38 jcamins      matts: it seems like Linux runs okay on eeePCs.
15:38 jcamins      Maybe.
15:38 jcamins      I'm installing Ubuntu using wubi, so that I can then repartition the system.
15:38 cait1        bbl
15:38 jcamins      (and once it's repartitioned, I can move the wubi install to the new partition)
15:38 jcamins      Then I can get very annoyed and curse a lot because that's what always happens. ;)
15:40 mrenvoize    mmm...  I always keep a big system running elsewhere for my testing.. then i can get back up and running very quickly if i have to do an add-hokc install (like i did on the train to KohaCon)... just ssh into your testing machine and away we go!
15:41 jcamins      mrenvoize: that's what I usually do too.
15:41 Oak          sophie_m, for working on 7329
15:41 mrenvoize    :)
15:42 sophie_m     Oak : have you tested the patch ?
15:42 Oak          nope
15:42 mrenvoize    haha... i was testing a patch from my raspberry_pi last week.. koha on a 42" TV.. looked good :p
15:42 jcamins      mrenvoize: awesome!
15:42 jcamins      mrenvoize: how do you like your raspberry pi?
15:43 mrenvoize    erm.. it's not bad.. shame the graphics drivers arn't really there yet... and there's all sorts of issues if you don't get the right SD Card..  but overall i'm pretty pleased.
15:43 sophie_m     I am looking for a .mrc file to import into the catalog
15:43 mrenvoize    currently got arch linux running on it.. though had to update the firmware first to get it to recognise my microsd card.
15:49 jcamins      Hmmm... guess everyone just got kicked out.
15:49 * jcamins    reinstalls Ubuntu on the netbook.
15:50 Oak          jcamins, Debian would be lighter
15:51 jcamins      Oak: yeah, and I'd prefer it too, but wubi is officially supported.
15:51 Oak          ah
15:53 jcamins      And I don't *think* Debian's equivalent is.
15:54 * Oak        reboot now
16:07 clrh         back
16:08 jcamins      Okay, Ubuntu is installed.
16:08 jcamins      And this time I was clever and chose Xubuntu instead of Ubuntu.
16:20 * jcamins    repartitions.
16:25 clrh         dpavlin: I have a git queestion - git tell me I have a submodule but I have no .gitmodule and no .git in supposed submodule - where could be stored theses information ?
16:25 * jcamins    cackles and hits "enter."
16:32 clrh         (trouvé)
16:41 slef         I have a blue umbrella, that was in the back of the hall. Anyone want it?
16:41 rangi        Not me
16:42 slef         jcamins_away: I cleared the room with SIGHUP_38.mp3
16:43 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5337 DBRev number <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=af6469019ad9db808bc7bca0d397833a1c5df96d> / Bug 5337: EAN management : Adds ean for various searches <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7f957077ddb4af98ea9c839e8a8262b8557aaf17> / bug 8167 follow-up: DBRev number <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d49cefdece6c099391d85db39d05540e
16:43 slef         the BBC Alba tv prog with manran incl norrietago is repeated 2030 tomorrow
16:48 jenkins_koha Starting build #745 for job Koha_master (previous build: FAILURE -- last SUCCESS #743 6 hr 59 min ago)
16:55 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #745: STILL FAILING in 6 min 59 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/745/
16:55 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 8167 - Add syspref allow a choice of blocking, non-blocking, or do nothing when issuing lost items.
16:55 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: bug 8167 follow-up: DBRev number
16:55 jenkins_koha * matthias.meusburger: Bug 5337: EAN management : Adds ean for various searches
16:55 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 5337 DBRev number
16:55 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8167 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Add syspref allow a choice of blocking, non-blocking, or do nothing when issuing lost items.
16:55 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5337 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, matthias.meusburger, Pushed to Master , acq EAN search
17:06 slef         wandering back to doctors
17:09 dpavlin      clrh: sorry I just saw your question -- .gitmodules and .git/config are only two files I know of that contain submodule information.
17:15 druthb       hmpf.
17:16 druthb       Someone empowered to change the topic back to something normal?  My birthday is now over, in all time zones.
17:17 cait         I don't think I can
17:17 cait         maybe slef can
17:36 rangi        Still at pub
17:39 cait         still here
17:39 cait         but paul is going to meet you
17:42 rangi        Cool u coming or going to hotel?
17:43 * Oak        waves
17:43 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8062 [SIGNED-OFF] Perl module dependency Template::Plugin::HtmlToText <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1f5bfbd0aaef5a16f3c44393975f6172ce3a4061> / Bug 8062 [SIGNED-OFF] Cart email broken for non english templates <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2a58e1213f460af19488fa55ed9d3955fa235a94> / Bug 7951 follow-up DBRev <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koh
17:43 druthb       Hi, Oak! :)
17:44 Oak          oh hi druthb :) how are you?
17:44 druthb       I'm good! :)
17:45 Oak          :)
17:48 jenkins_koha Starting build #746 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL FAILING -- last SUCCESS #743 7 hr 59 min ago)
17:54 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #746: STILL FAILING in 6 min 39 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/746/
17:54 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 7951 - Suspending holds needs a system preference
17:54 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 7951 follow-up DBRev
17:54 jenkins_koha * f.demians: Bug 8062 [SIGNED-OFF] Cart email broken for non english templates
17:54 jenkins_koha * f.demians: Bug 8062 [SIGNED-OFF] Perl module dependency Template::Plugin::HtmlToText
17:54 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7951 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha.sekjal, Pushed to Master , Suspending holds needs a system preference
17:54 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8062 critical, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , Cart email broken for non english templates
18:08 * bencahill  is installing koha on Ubuntu 12.04
18:08 bencahill    Okay, so why does the wiki page have sudo su, then sudo apt-get ... ???
18:10 rangi        Cait: u there?
18:10 wahanui      it has been said that there is no spoon.
18:10 cait         yep
18:10 bencahill    wahanui: to me? (or is wahanui a bot?)
18:10 wahanui      OK, bencahill.
18:10 bencahill    lol
18:10 rangi        We are leaving here at just before 8
18:10 cait         ok
18:10 cait         where to?
18:11 rangi        To go for dinner
18:11 cait         ok
18:11 Oak          jcamins++
18:11 rangi        I don't know but everyone is here
18:11 cait         everyone except for me dobrica and marijana :)
18:11 rangi        Some Greek place
18:11 cait         I will ocme and join you I think
18:11 cait         soonish?
18:12 rangi        Sara booked it for 8.15
18:13 cait         ok
18:13 cait         enough room for us too?
18:18 rangi        Yeah come soon
18:23 cait         ok
18:23 cait         will
18:24 cait         on my way now
18:33 cait-m_      dobrica - it's broughan st, some people leaving from doctors at 8
18:58 * bencahill  grumbles at how ridiculously slow ubuntu is
19:50 slef         hello from the back room of a restau
19:52 * mle_afk    wonders which one?
20:43 jcamins_away What is the services directory for?
21:26 bencahill    The ubuntu guide says to edit /etc/cron.d/koha and add some lines, but there is no file. Where is it supposed to come from?
21:28 druthb       :P
21:29 bencahill    :-/
21:29 druthb       :D
21:29 * bencahill  checks the date to see if this is some funny holiday
21:30 bencahill    :P
21:30 druthb       Yesterday was a very peculiar holiday, yes.
21:30 druthb       Today, not so much.
21:30 druthb       it's jcamins' fault--he changed the topic.
21:35 bencahill    Oh right! I saw that, but didn't remember when you started smirking.
21:36 bencahill    So...does anyone know what's supposed to be in the cron.d/koha file? In my current installation, I just have the rebuild_zebra script with -b -a -z, IIRC.
21:38 druthb       The stuff in the crontab.default (in misc/cron, I think) would be good suggestions, but the indexing is the biggie.
21:52 wajasu       to allow my non-interactive koha vm builder script to run through, i added this to me preseed.cfg ->  koha-common koha-common/3.2-3.4-upgrade-notice note
21:55 wajasu       i unpackaged the koha-common deb file and say /etc/koha/cron.d and it has koha-common   so you migh just add your own file your own crontab lines.
22:12 bencahill    Wow. New CPU success. :)
22:16 slef         mle_afk: saorry. Big fat greek. I was being niggled for IRCing ;)
23:47 jcamins      bencahill: the Ubuntu guide is referring to the patches.
23:47 jcamins      *packages
23:47 * jcamins    yawns widely.
23:53 jcamins      Oh, drat.
23:54 jcamins      About... fifty commits ago I forgot to increment the version.