Time Nick Message 00:06 BobB @seen mtj 00:06 huginn` BobB: mtj was last seen in #koha 2 days, 18 hours, 25 minutes, and 4 seconds ago: <mtj> pings ok, so just slow :) 00:16 rangi afternoon 00:42 mib_wz9t1u wow, this is cool. i am looking for help installing koha on windows 7. i downloaded the .zip file, but am not sure which steps to take next 00:45 rangi the windows version is really really really old, and totally unsupported 00:45 rangi its probably best if you have to install it on windows to run it under vmware (or something similar) as a virtual machine 00:48 mib_wz9t1u ok, not sure what that is, perhaps too complicated for me. i also tried to install via ubuntu, but i know nothing about linux, so that proved to be too complicated for me as well. it looked liked via windows would be easier, with loss of functionality of z3950, but i was willing to forego, just to experiment 00:50 eythian windows is not likely to be easier. 00:50 mib_wz9t1u ok, well i appreciate the info, thank you 00:50 jcamins Definitely won't be easier. 00:51 jcamins Much, much harder. 00:51 jcamins Because no one will be able to help you at all. 00:53 mib_wz9t1u guess I'll just have to learn more about linux then 00:54 mib_wz9t1u i was following the instructions on http://everydaytechy.blogspot.com/2010/05/install-koha-30000-on-ubuntu-910.html 00:55 mib_wz9t1u anyone know of anything better for a true beginner? 00:56 jcamins mib_wz9t1u: yes, follow the current instructions, not instructions that are several years old and for a different version of Koha. 00:57 jcamins packages? 00:57 wahanui packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian 00:57 jcamins ^^ use that 00:57 rangi mib_wz9t1u: the INSTALL.debian or INSTALL.ubuntu file that comes with koha, or using the packages 00:57 jcamins Use the packages. 00:58 eythian , luke. 01:04 mib_wz9t1u ok, i looked at this page once, i will look again, i was not sure about debian vs. ubuntu at the time 01:04 mib_wz9t1u thanks e1 05:26 mib_cvo04c Hey guys is there any word about getting a PDF version of the Koha manual? 05:54 cait good morning #koha 05:55 eythian hi cait 05:55 cait hi eythian 06:07 mib_cvo04c Hey guys is there any word about getting a PDF version of the Koha manual? 06:10 mib_cvo04c I've tried making my own using the git source but it really doesn't look nice (layout/size of images is wrong - images dont even appear with docbook2pdf) 06:50 julian_m hello 06:50 wahanui hola, julian_m 07:11 francharb good moring 07:37 * cait waves 07:37 cait no holiday in France today? 07:38 alex_a cait: no :( 07:39 cait oh :( 07:39 * cait sends cookies 07:41 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7846 - get_batch_summary massive speedup <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5baa35ad3b33ec1cc0dea906fe369eb74366d131> / Bug 7926: Acq search results show empty () for orders without basket group <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2f837bafee0d09a890171f4b0cd27efa5a0e3670> / Bug 7980: [SIGNED-OFF] Group search results tag input with other actions <http://git.koh 07:48 jenkins_koha Starting build #735 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED) 07:48 cait bonjour paul_p 07:49 paul_p hi cait ! 07:50 paul_p "semi-closed day" here in France today, half of BibLibre working, the other half not working 07:50 * cait is working on her distance study course... but would prefer to work on Koha 08:02 matts it's a holiday in germany ? 08:02 cait @wunder Konstanz 08:02 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 18.1°C (10:00 AM CEST on May 28, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). 08:02 cait matts: yes 08:03 cait matts: not at work today, but back at work tomorrow 08:03 matts okay... Like it used to be for us... :\ 08:03 paul_p recovering from too much drinking on sunday :D 08:03 cait no drinking for me :) 08:04 cait but counting the days until KohaCon - when will Biblibre arrive in Edinburgh? 08:04 paul_p matts = in fact, today is a closed day again. Except you must work "for free" another day of the year, or dedicate a holiday day to fund the. 08:04 paul_p cait monday, 4PM 08:04 cait oh 08:04 cait I arrive like that too 08:05 cait are you flying directly? 08:05 cait 15:55 is my exact arrival time, zürich - amsterdam - edinburgh 08:05 paul_p 12:00 08:05 paul_p Marseille, Provence (MRS) - France - Terminal 3 08:05 paul_p 08:05 paul_p 14:00 08:05 paul_p Amsterdam, Schiphol (AMS) - Pays Bas 08:06 paul_p 15:30 08:06 paul_p Amsterdam, Schiphol (AMS) - Pays Bas 08:06 paul_p 08:06 cait lol 08:06 paul_p 15:55 08:06 paul_p Edimbourg, Edinburgh (EDI) - Royaume Uni 08:06 cait I think we are on the same flight from amsterdam! 08:06 paul_p yep ! 08:06 cait nice :) 08:06 matts my flight is a lot later... 08:06 cait rangi and eythian are arriving later that day too 08:07 paul_p really ? they arrive from NZ just 1 day before the conf ? wow, they'll be dramatically jetlagged ! 08:07 cait I hope they will get some sleep on the planes 08:08 cait they arrive around 4 hours later than we do 08:09 cait which hotel are you staying at? mine is Cairn 08:10 paul_p cait StayEdinburgh - West End Apartments 08:10 paul_p 11 Brandfield Street Haymarket 08:10 paul_p Edinburgh 08:10 wahanui hmmm... Edinburgh is for sure now 08:10 cait we started a little table here (bottom of the page) http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/KohaCon12_Volunteers 08:11 cait hi BobB :) 08:11 cait we were just discussing arrival times and hotels in Edinburgh - you and Irma will be there too, right? 08:12 BobB hi cait :) 08:12 BobB yes we'll be there. We're arriving on Tuesday morning - just in time! 08:13 BobB Staying at Edinburgh City Hotel, not too far from the venue we think. 08:13 cait BobB: we started a little table here to help people meeting up: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/KohaCon12_Volunteers 08:13 paul_p cait page filled for us 08:13 BobB cool, I'll check it out. 08:13 cait cool :) 08:13 cait looking forward to see you all in person again :) 08:13 cait and hopefully finish this course in time..., so can go back to concentrate on Koha things more 08:13 BobB See you there! Will be great to catch up again. 08:13 cait the deadline is right after kohacon 08:19 * cait will stop complaining now and goes back to reading 08:26 cait @quote random 08:26 huginn` cait: Quote #162: "oleonard: I think DRM is inherently incompatible with any lending system which will be friendly to patrons." (added by wizzyrea at 04:03 PM, October 28, 2011) 08:26 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn`. 08:29 libttc hi wondering if anyone is aware of how to get koha backup on things such as the catalog 08:35 cait first question? 08:35 wahanui "What are you trying to do?" "What is the goal?" or "What problem are you experiencing?" 08:36 cait libttc: if you want to do backups for your installation you can dump the database - it has all information and you can rebuild the zebra indexes. If you have local changes, you might want to backup more files. 08:42 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #735: SUCCESS in 54 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/735/ 08:42 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 8124 - Hide option to download results of items with no checkouts report 08:42 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 5795 [SIGNED-OFF] - Missing ReservesControlBranch system pref in database installer 08:42 jenkins_koha * amit.gupta: Bug 5795 Update the database as follow-up If sys pref 08:42 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 5795 follow-up, DBRev number 08:42 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8124 normal, P3, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Hide option to download results of items with no checkouts report 08:42 jenkins_koha * stephane.delaune: Bug 8040: bad name in acquisitions-menu 08:42 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 7889 - Use standard style for errors and messages 08:42 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 7889 [Authorities duplicates] Use standard style for errors and messages 08:42 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 7889 [Search errors] Use standard style for errors and messages 08:42 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 7889 [Acquisitions] Use standard style for errors and messages 08:42 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5795 normal, P3, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Missing ReservesControlBranch system pref in database installer 08:42 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8040 minor, P3, ---, stephane.delaune, Pushed to Master , a menu misnamed in budgets 08:42 jenkins_koha * ruth: Bug 8009: Item descriptive data not populated on pay.pl 08:42 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: Bug 8009: Followup Item descriptive data not populated on pay.pl 08:42 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7889 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use standard style for errors and messages 08:42 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: Bug 5345: DataTables integration in acquisition module [4] 08:42 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8009 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, ruth, Pushed to Master , Item descriptive data not populated on pay.pl 08:42 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: Bug 5345: DataTables integration in acquisition module [4] 08:42 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 8107 - Disabled buttons not distinguishable from enabled buttons 08:42 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 8080 - login and password is pre-filled by the browser when creating a new patron 08:42 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 7980: [SIGNED-OFF] Group search results tag input with other actions 08:42 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5345 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, ASSIGNED , DataTables in Koha 08:42 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8107 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Disabled buttons not distinguishable from enabled buttons. 08:42 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7926: Acq search results show empty () for orders without basket group 08:42 jenkins_koha * dpavlin: Bug 7846 - get_batch_summary massive speedup 08:42 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8080 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , login and password is pre-filled by the browser when creating a new patron 08:42 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7980 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Group search results tag input with other actions 08:42 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7926 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Acq search results show empty parenthesis for orders without basket group 08:42 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7846 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Master , get_batch_summary reimplements GROUP BY in perl code 08:51 Oak \o 08:52 Oak davidnind++ 08:52 cait hi Oak 08:52 Oak hello cait :) 08:52 Oak time to head to office ? 08:52 cait holiday here today - working on my homework 08:53 Oak good 08:54 Oak homework or assignments? 08:54 Oak ;) 08:55 cait hm, what's the difference? 08:55 Oak when we were in school, we were given homework by our teachers. 08:55 Oak when we are in college, university, we are given assignments by professors 08:55 Oak just kidding of course 08:56 cait :) 08:56 Oak i'm not that funny any more 08:56 slef Oak: who gave you assignations? 08:56 cait hi slef 08:56 cait :) 08:56 * Oak googles assignations 08:56 slef hi cait 08:56 Oak hello slef 08:57 Oak Assignations: "An appointment to meet someone in secret, typically one made by lovers." 08:57 Oak hmmm 08:57 Oak now *that* is funny. 08:57 libttc well there is the need to backup all the catalog information just in case things do not go as expected 08:57 cait libttc: did you see what I wrote earlier? about dumping the database? 08:57 libttc is there a way of backing up the data in the catalog? 08:58 Oak @seen oleanard 08:58 huginn` Oak: I have not seen oleanard. 08:58 Oak @seen oleonard 08:58 huginn` Oak: oleonard was last seen in #koha 2 days, 16 hours, 58 minutes, and 37 seconds ago: <oleonard> Have a good weekend everyone 08:59 libttc yes i have tried the dumping but i noticed that it is only getting the database structure and the main settings, not the data in the db as in stuff such as books entered. 09:00 slef libttc: the books should be in the biblio, items and biblioitems tables. 09:00 cait_afk if you do a correct dump, all data will be in there 09:00 cait_afk not only the structure 09:00 cait_afk now really afk :) 09:08 libttc thanks . it worked 09:47 jenkins_koha Starting build #27 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 10:40 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #27: SUCCESS in 52 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/27/ 10:40 jenkins_koha oleonard: Bug 8124 - Hide option to download results of items with no checkouts report 10:40 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8124 normal, P3, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Hide option to download results of items with no checkouts report 10:41 jenkins_koha Starting build #28 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 11:34 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #28: SUCCESS in 53 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/28/ 11:34 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 5795 [SIGNED-OFF] - Missing ReservesControlBranch system pref in database installer 11:34 jenkins_koha * amit.gupta: Bug 5795 Update the database as follow-up If sys pref 11:34 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 5795 : Updating version number 11:34 jenkins_koha * stephane.delaune: Bug 8040: bad name in acquisitions-menu 11:34 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 8107 - Disabled buttons not distinguishable from enabled buttons 11:34 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5795 normal, P3, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Stable , Missing ReservesControlBranch system pref in database installer 11:34 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 8080 - login and password is pre-filled by the browser when creating a new patron 11:34 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7926: Acq search results show empty () for orders without basket group 11:34 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8040 minor, P3, ---, stephane.delaune, Pushed to Stable , a menu misnamed in budgets 11:35 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8107 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Disabled buttons not distinguishable from enabled buttons. 11:35 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8080 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Stable , login and password is pre-filled by the browser when creating a new patron 11:35 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7926 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Acq search results show empty parenthesis for orders without basket group 12:02 jenkins_koha Starting build #736 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 12:05 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: bug_8056: sorted out slip print calls <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=722ca127dd0aaf0646001594ebbece18c75d12b1> / Bug 7792 follow-up DBRev number <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7094ea5af32ccc8fc8fad4fc0916486f1c9cfc7a> / Bug 7792:redefine the field branchcode as PRIMARY KEY of branches <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=838269d 12:47 jenkins_koha Starting build #29 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 13:05 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #736: SUCCESS in 1 hr 3 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/736/ 13:05 jenkins_koha * oleonard: ug 8078 [REVISED] my summary showing contents of incorrect tab 13:05 jenkins_koha * simon.story: Bug 6684: Fixes to koha-remove 13:05 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Welcome to the 182th commiter ! 13:05 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 8014 - On the patron entry form hide "restricted until" field if "Restricted: No" is checked 13:05 jenkins_koha * stephane.delaune: Bug 7794:redefine the field id as PRIMARY KEY of sessions 13:05 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 7794: follow-up DBRev number + removing UNIQUE index that is now useless 13:05 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6684 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Pushed to Stable , koha-remove should check the number of arguments it gets 13:05 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 7792:redefine the field branchcode as PRIMARY KEY of branches 13:05 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 7792 follow-up DBRev number 13:05 jenkins_koha * srdjan: bug_8056: sorted out slip print calls 13:05 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8014 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , On the patron entry form hide "restricted until" field if "Restricted: No" is checked 13:05 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7794 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, stephane.delaune, Pushed to Master , redefine the field id as PRIMARY KEY of sessions 13:05 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7792 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, stephane.delaune, Passed QA , redefine the field branchcode as PRIMARY KEY of branches 13:10 Barrc Is there anyone around driving to Kohacon? just wondering about parking? 13:10 jcamins_away Barrc: parking is going to be very unpleasant. 13:10 Barrc uh oh....... 13:11 jcamins I won't be there, but the location where it is has very little parking. 13:11 Barrc why? is there nowhere near the university for driving folk? 13:12 jcamins I'm pretty sure the lot near Teviot isn't open to the public. 13:14 Barrc Thanks - that puts me in a ticky spot so!!, I'll need to park and ride somewhere so! 13:18 cait_afk perhaps there are park and ride options? 13:18 cait_afk Barrc: where are you from? 13:19 jcamins Barrc: how far are you willing to walk? 13:19 jcamins I'm operating under the assumption that the reason you're planning on driving is that mobility is a challenge. 13:20 jcamins There's parking at Buccleuch (sp?) which was open to the public. 13:21 jcamins You should also check with mle. It could be that he's able to get you a parking permit. 13:22 jcamins I am basing my information on what I saw from being a student. 13:22 cait_afk mle_ or slef might know 13:30 Barrc Thanks - I was just thrawling through maps trying to find a close one - £29 per day is fairly steep too! 13:46 jcamins paul_p: do you know how to add dependencies? 13:47 jcamins That's why I didn't do it before... I have no idea where to add them. 13:47 paul_p hi jcamins. I'm digging, but not sure I know (maybe something for a new wiki page ;-) ) 13:47 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #29: SUCCESS in 1 hr 0 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/29/ 13:47 jenkins_koha * simon.story: Bug 6684: Fixes to koha-remove 13:47 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Welcome to the 182th commiter ! 13:47 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6684 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Pushed to Stable , koha-remove should check the number of arguments it gets 13:48 jcamins Ooh, chris_n did it for 7977. 13:48 jcamins I'll just copy his code. :) 13:48 cait_afk :) 13:48 cait_afk was about to point you to that bug :) 13:48 paul_p jcamins = C4::Installer::PerlDependancies.pm 13:49 jcamins Are these in any order at all? 13:49 cait_afk we should perhaps also add to the wiki a note about creating new directories 13:49 * paul_p feel no... 13:49 cait_afk and the need to adjust the installer scripts for those 13:49 paul_p (I mean no order at all) 13:50 jcamins paul_p: yeah, that's my impression as well. 13:50 paul_p jcamins = about Caching, no code is really using Koha::Cache for now, right ? 13:50 paul_p (except svc/report) 13:50 jcamins paul_p: just the report webservices. 13:50 paul_p OK, so I should not investigate more for benchmarking performance changes ;-) 13:51 jcamins paul_p: I had a sample patch to add more caching elsewhere. 13:51 cait_afk oh, wasn't there one for system preferences? 13:51 jcamins Once CHI is in, we can change the way we do the syspref cache, which should result in a *huge* performance improvement. 13:51 cait_afk nice :) 13:51 jcamins cait_afk: it wasn't using Koha::Cache. 13:51 cait_afk i see 13:51 jcamins cait_afk: in fact, I prefer not to think about how it worked at all. 13:51 jcamins Too embarassing. 13:51 jcamins ;) 13:52 cait_afk heh 13:52 cait_afk I am pretty sure it was a lot better than with whatever i could come up with 13:52 jcamins cait_afk: I don't think so. 13:52 jcamins CHI would allow us to use a fastmmap cache for sysprefs. 13:52 jcamins (= win!) 13:52 cait_afk see, I have no idea what that is 13:53 cait_afk but I believe in the win part 13:53 slef jcamins: cait_afk: thanks for handling that. There are NCP or private car parks available nearby, but £16/day seemed about average. I'm intending to leave th car parked at my hotel and walk in as much as possible. Alternative approach http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/shopping/cheap-parking-rental#cheap 13:53 * chris_n fesses up to being the creator of the dep related code 13:53 chris_n jcamins^^ 13:53 jcamins chris_n: in that case I guess I can be certain you did it right. :) 13:54 cait_afk :) 13:54 slef wahanui: kohacon? 13:54 wahanui slef: i haven't a clue 13:54 slef wahanui: kohacon12? 13:54 wahanui kohacon12 is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Category:KohaCon12 or Conference Tue 5 June 2012 to Thu 7th, Hackfest Sat 9th June-Mon 11th June 13:54 * slef adds it to the summary 13:55 chris_n jcamins: however, the docs for it stink :-) 13:55 mle_ Barrc: the closest parking is at george square. 13:56 slef mle_: Barrc has gone. 13:56 mle_ do I need to chase disabled parking permit? 13:56 slef mle_: but I'll note it. 13:56 slef mle_: do you know who operates George Square? 13:56 mle_ iirc george square is pay and display 13:56 mle_ i can check 13:58 slef mle_: ok. Let us or http://wiki.koha-community.org/w/index.php?title=KohaCon12_Summary&action=edit§ion=10 know when you have. 13:58 slef http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/KohaCon12_Summary#Cars 13:58 * chris_n has a ubuntu server who's nic just goes south with random regularity and the logs are *not* helpful >:-( 13:59 slef chris_n: we had a debian doing that a while ago. Kernel upgrade seems to have cured it. 13:59 chris_n thanks slef, I'll take a look that direction 13:59 slef chris_n: running a slow ping from the server helped a bit, but didn't avoid the stalls. 13:59 cait_afk paul_p++ for being busy :) 14:00 slef chris_n: have you noticed if the system clock stopped? We had one doing that too but I don't remember if it was the one with the dud NIC 14:00 chris_n slef: I've not noticed that 14:00 cait_afk hi oak 14:01 Oak guten abend cait_afk :) 14:01 paul_p jcamins = agreed that the next step must be to cache sysprefs 14:01 jcamins Argh! 14:01 paul_p (should reduce sql queries by 80 for each page ;-) 14:01 jcamins When I messed up CPAN yesterday I appear to have uninstalled caching. 14:02 * cait_afk send jcamins cookies 14:02 * chris_n hands jcamins fresh chocolate-chip oatmeal cookies to eat while he re-installs caching :) 14:03 chris_n opps 14:03 chris_n cait_afk: snap ;-) 14:03 cait_afk double load of cookies - I am sure that will help :) 14:03 jcamins :) 14:04 jcamins dh-make-perl++ 14:08 jcamins paul_p: follow-up attached. 14:09 paul_p jcamins great, thx 14:09 jcamins paul_p: and note that CHI *is* optional. 14:10 jcamins If you don't have CHI, the only caching available will be memcached, which is the same as the situation right now. 14:10 jcamins (I marked it as optional in the dependencies... I'm just pointing this out to you) 14:11 jcamins I'm going to upload all the Koha dependencies to my apt repo. 14:17 * chris_n believes the current privacy thread is important 14:17 jcamins Uh-oh. 14:17 jcamins I think I just inadvertantly uploaded the package to Debian. 14:17 jcamins Not sure how that's possible. 14:41 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_6858' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=60186fa42fa0742eb3e8484f1fd4b16e04d32ae1> / Bug 6858: Adds staticfines.pl for static fines processing <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4dc45633966e1287d0fde6f3374e5bd0a4861c33> / Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_8150' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.gi 14:47 jenkins_koha Starting build #737 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 15:09 jcamins mtj++ 15:16 mtj woah, nice! -> http://www.librarytechnology.org/ltg-displaytext.pl?RC=16877 15:17 mtj now that's what i call a press-release :p 15:17 cait_afk :) 15:18 cait_afk seems we are getting better at that :) 15:18 cait_afk mtj++ go to sleep! 15:18 mtj i've been to sleep already - i just got up :) 15:19 jcamins mtj: you just got up? 15:19 jcamins Isn't it 3am or so? 15:19 cait_afk it's 3 am 15:19 cait_afk for you 15:19 cait_afk !! 15:21 jcamins T::T++ 15:22 cait_afk tinkk... *sigh* 15:22 mtj cait_afk: i am planning to take some days off later this week, so i finish that work now, . :) 15:22 cait_afk I hate typos in mailing list mails 15:23 mtj "Koha 3.8.0 contains over 130 enhancements with over 1000 changesets from 71 developers. Please read the release notes below the fold for more information." 15:23 cait_afk mtj: hm I should not complain - as you did qa on dom indexing at this weird time :) 15:23 mtj ^^ that is awesome 15:23 cait_afk because Koha IS awesome :) 15:23 cait_afk Koha++ :) 15:23 cait_afk community++ 15:23 cait_afk @karma community 15:23 huginn` cait_afk: Karma for "community" has been increased 11 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 10. 15:41 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #737: SUCCESS in 54 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/737/ 15:41 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 8095 - Printed lists in the OPAC not easy to read 15:41 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 8122 - Add a link to new library group creation from empty groups message 15:41 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: Bug 8122 - Followup Add a link to new library group creation from empty groups message 15:41 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 7959 - Update OPAC suggestions interface to match lists 15:41 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 7959 - Update OPAC suggestions interface to match lists 15:41 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8095 major, P2, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Printed lists in the OPAC not easy to read 15:41 jenkins_koha * colin.campbell: Bug 8150 [SIGNED-OFF] Remove obsoleted navigation bar in circ history 15:41 jenkins_koha * matthias.meusburger: Bug 6858: Adds staticfines.pl for static fines processing 15:41 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8122 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Add a link to new library group creation from empty groups message 15:41 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7959 enhancement, P3, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Update OPAC suggestions interface to match lists 15:41 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8150 minor, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , Patron circulation history has a fossil navagation bar 15:41 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6858 normal, P5 - low, ---, matthias.meusburger, Pushed to Master , Adds staticfines.pl for static fines processing 15:53 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7127 - Templates must be valid XHTML <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e11a6b20256545292fc864de8e96ba68cde52d7a> / Bug 8144 - 775 tag in the MARC record causes display issue <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5bd592d52615669a382caaba009cb941614b1e8a> / Bug 8145 - [SIGNED-OFF] opac-tags.pl fails when DEBUG is set <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.g 15:55 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7127] Templates must be valid XHTML <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7127> 16:02 jenkins_koha Starting build #738 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 16:03 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 4330 : Adding copyright headers and fixing FSF addresses <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=88b6e0f90a32af03ed6c4876e0917176bafe8376> / Bug 4330 : Fixing FSF address and copyright headers for acqui/ <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0aecb2c2b3fc1fe31fadeb47e209f0964494e2f1> / Bug 4330 : Last of the opac files with wrong FSF address <http://git.koha-community. 16:15 vfernandes hi guys... 16:17 chris_n jcamins++ #for your sandbox extension ideas 16:17 chris_n that would dramatically lower the entry level for bug signoff 16:17 jcamins chris_n: yeah. 16:20 paul_p chris_n = that would, but only once the new DB update system is live. Otherwise, many "patch does not apply" will reduce the signoff possibilities 16:21 paul_p guys & women, I've pushed the passed QA pile, and QAed most of patches needing QA (except a few very large one & 3 BibLibre ones), it's time to go back home for me !!! 16:21 jcamins paul_p: right now it's not really possible to try testing a new indexing configuration. 16:21 jcamins As I understand. 16:21 paul_p jcamins you're right. 16:21 jcamins I think we could fix that. 16:21 cait_afk paul_p: have a nice evening :) 16:21 paul_p (and that will be *very* tricky to change that I fear !) 16:21 jcamins Even cooler would be setting it up so that we could test it in parallel: old configuration and new configuration. 16:22 jcamins It will be tricky, but not impossible. :) 16:22 jcamins I learned how to do it for testing the UNIMARC DOM indexing. 16:22 cait_afk nothing really is impossible... right? :) 16:22 jcamins paul_p: bug 7818 just passed QA. :) 16:22 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7818 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Passed QA , support DOM mode for Zebra indexing of bibliographic records 16:22 paul_p jcamins = for testing in // you can always go to sandbox.pl, enter bug "master", no change in the DB, and you've got master ! 16:23 vfernandes can anyone help me with one authority question? 16:23 paul_p jcamins yes, i've seen, but it's a little too large for playing with it at 6:30 PM... 16:23 jcamins paul_p: ah, well, that simplifies my task. 16:23 jcamins :) 16:23 cait_afk paul_p: go! :) 16:23 jcamins vfernandes: you can ask. 16:23 jcamins paul_p: agreed. 16:23 jcamins Go home. 16:23 jcamins Push 7818 tomorrow. :D 16:24 chris_n paul_p++ #for lots of work today 16:24 cait_afk paul_p++ 16:24 vfernandes i have the 225$a subfield controlled by authority.... the cataloguing works fine and appears the link to the authority in the MARC detail backoffice page 16:24 jcamins paul_p++ 16:24 chris_n jcamins? 16:24 wahanui somebody said jcamins was an outstanding cook, well-traveled and brilliant, trying to think of a solution, or the wizard that forges queries in the deep fires of zebra 16:24 jcamins chris_n: yes? 16:24 chris_n wahanui: jcamins is also an authorities expert 16:24 wahanui okay, chris_n. 16:24 chris_n jcamins? 16:24 wahanui hmmm... jcamins is an outstanding cook, well-traveled and brilliant, trying to think of a solution, or the wizard that forges queries in the deep fires of zebra or an authorities expert 16:25 vfernandes the problem is that when I enter in the authority it has 0 connections/uses 16:25 chris_n hehe 16:25 cait_afk vfernandes: did you add a $9 field? 16:25 cait_afk to the framework? 16:25 jcamins vfernandes: the used by is pretty inaccurate. 16:25 vfernandes yes! 16:25 cait_afk and are you indexing your authorities? 16:25 jcamins Especially for UNIMARC. 16:25 jcamins It will be better after DOM. 16:25 vfernandes the authorities are being indexed because I can access them 16:26 cait_afk hm 16:26 cait_afk I hope jcamins will know then :) 16:26 vfernandes i'm using GRS1 16:26 jcamins The problem is with bib indexing. 16:26 * cait_afk goes back to reading her accounting book 16:26 cait_afk bbl :) 16:26 jcamins You'll pretty much just have to deal with the "Used in" count being wrong. 16:26 jcamins It almost always is. 16:27 vfernandes I need to add an index on record.abs? 16:27 jcamins Or you could do that. 16:27 jcamins Yes. 16:27 jcamins 225$9 probably isn't indexed as an authid. 16:28 vfernandes Koha-Auth-Number,Koha-Auth-Number:n 16:28 vfernandes I think that's it :) let me try 16:29 jcamins That sounds right, I think. 16:29 vfernandes reindexing now... 16:38 vfernandes it worked :) 16:38 jcamins Yay! 16:39 techbee hello all , i have installed koha 3.8 successfully on debain system , but it seems opening maintenance page on startup 16:40 techbee have set serverName directive to hostname but still same results , not sure what's happening here 16:40 jcamins techbee: you have to log into the staff client. 16:40 jcamins It will take you through the web installer. 16:41 vfernandes thanks jcamins and cait :) 16:43 techbee any alternative to staff client 16:43 jcamins techbee: no. 16:43 jcamins techbee: you have to configure the system before you can use the OPAC. 16:43 jcamins There's no way around that. You won't be able to do anything with Koha if you don't put any data in it. 16:46 techbee i m kinda newbie not sure if i understand the issue 16:47 jcamins techbee: you have to configure your system. 16:47 jcamins Let me find the newbie guide. 16:47 techbee thanks jcamins 16:47 jcamins Newbie guide? 16:47 wahanui Newbie guide is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Newbie_guide 16:47 jcamins ^^ there you are. 16:47 techbee thanks for your help jcamins 16:48 jcamins Good luck. 16:51 techbee doesn't seems details about installation 16:52 techbee i am yet to reach point to connect to koha web admin interface 16:54 vfernandes jcamins are you using UNIMARC? 16:54 jcamins techbee: right, you have to do that in order to get the "System maintenance" page on the OPAC to go away. 16:54 jcamins vfernandes: nope. 16:54 jcamins vfernandes: I know nothing about UNIMARC. 16:54 vfernandes ok :) 16:55 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #738: SUCCESS in 53 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/738/ 16:55 jenkins_koha * mtj: Bug 8145 - [SIGNED-OFF] opac-tags.pl fails when DEBUG is set 16:55 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 8144 - 775 tag in the MARC record causes display issue 16:55 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 7127 - Templates must be valid XHTML 16:55 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 4330 : Fixing FSF address and copyright headers 16:55 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 4330 : Fixing FSF address and copyright statements 16:55 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 4330 Fixing FSF statements 16:55 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 4330 : Adding missing license statement 16:55 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8145 major, P5 - low, ---, mtj, Pushed to Master , opac-tags.pl fails when DEBUG is set 16:55 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 4330 : Last of the opac files with wrong FSF address 16:55 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 4330 : Fixing FSF address and copyright headers for acqui/ 16:55 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8144 critical, P1 - high, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , 775 tag in the MARC record causes display issue 16:55 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 4330 : Adding copyright headers and fixing FSF addresses 16:55 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7127 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Templates must be valid XHTML 16:55 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4330 normal, P3, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , Copyright statements out of date 18:16 alaquerre Hi everyone. General question. We curently do have a lot of "local" changes and I am wondering what is the best way to do version upgrade? Should we do : 3.6.0 --> 3.8.1 ? Or 3.6.0 --> 3.6.5 --> 3.8.1 ? 18:17 jcamins alaquerre: it doesn't matter. 18:17 jcamins Upgrading is going to be staggeringly painful regardless. 18:17 jcamins Going from 3.6.0-3.8.1 will be faster, though. 18:17 alaquerre ok that's was my question ;-) then ... 18:18 jcamins alaquerre: usually upgrades aren't painful, of course, but with all your customizations, you're going to basically be redoing everything you did when you first moved to Koha. 18:18 jcamins This is why "waiting until it's ready" is always a bad idea. 18:19 jcamins Either get it ready immediately, or do without significant local changes, is my philosophy. 18:21 alaquerre We want to push 80% of our local change to the community and then start to be "very clean"... 18:21 alaquerre We hope that some of our upgrade will be taken into consideration. 18:22 jcamins alaquerre: if you contribute code (and respond to feedback), anything others find useful will make it into Koha. 18:22 alaquerre okay thanks again jcamins! 18:22 jcamins (but remember it won't be incorporated into a release until 3.10 at the earliest) 18:24 alaquerre I know :-) That's why we will start doing quick release cycle... Doing the initial migration, we try to fix everything quickly without sharing it since it's was time consumming... But I find it much more time consuming now ... 18:24 jcamins Yup. And it'll only get worse and worse. 18:25 alaquerre So you should see couple of new fix/feature from Libeo sponsored by CCSR... 18:25 alaquerre Thanks again. 18:25 jcamins There are a couple waiting for feedback from Libeo. 18:26 alaquerre Okay I will do the follow up with them :-) 18:42 Oak jcamins, can we install 3.6.5 on Debian using a command like apt-get install koha-common? <-- that will install 3.8.1, but what if we want to install 3.6.5 with all the dependencies? 18:45 cait_afk Oak: not sure 18:45 Oak cait_afk, okay :) 18:46 cait_afk hm I think perhaps the source looks a bit different then? that you add to your list? 18:46 cait_afk jcamins might know 18:46 Oak i forgot what afk means... 18:46 cait_afk away from keyboad :P 18:46 Oak ah yes! 18:46 jcamins Oak: at present, you have to use my apt repo to do that. 18:47 Oak jcamins, how can we do that? 18:47 Oak a wiki page? 18:47 jcamins eythian will be adding an oldstable pouch to debian.koha-community.org, but right now you need to use a different repo. 18:47 jcamins Add the following to /etc/apt/sources.list: 18:47 jcamins http://apt.cpbibliography.com/koha 3.6.x 18:47 jcamins Oops. 18:47 jcamins deb http://apt.cpbibliography.com/koha 3.6.x 18:48 Oak cool 18:48 Oak thank you! 18:48 jcamins Then do: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install koha-common 18:48 jcamins Oh. 18:48 jcamins You'll need to remove the debian.koha-community.org source, or it will think that 3.8.1 is newer than 3.6.5. 18:48 Oak okay got it 18:53 Oak okay guys me go now. sleep time. 18:53 Oak later. 19:08 chris_n here we go... :-P 19:08 chris_n @wunder 28334 19:08 huginn` chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 25.6°C (3:03 PM EDT on May 28, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1016 hPa (Falling). 19:08 chris_n t'storm city 19:09 * cait_afk waves 19:33 mbalmer evening 19:50 cait @wunder Konstanz 19:50 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 15.9°C (9:50 PM CEST on May 28, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). 20:01 rangi Morning 20:04 cait good morning rangi :) 20:07 jcamins Morning. 20:07 wahanui i guess morning is a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast. 20:11 rangi Brb 20:16 rangi back 20:26 chris_n did Koha::Template::Plugin::Combine not make it into 3.8.x? 20:27 rangi i havent seen it 20:27 rangi is it in master? 20:27 chris_n I saw it mentioned on the wiki and assumed it was 20:28 jcamins I've never even heard of it. 20:28 jcamins What does it do? 20:28 chris_n http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Performance#Koha::Template::Plugin::Combine 20:28 chris_n in response to bug 1918 20:28 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1918 enhancement, P3, ---, dpavlin, In Discussion , Minify JavaScript and CSS 20:28 rangi ahh thats something dobrica was working on, afaik no, not in master yet 20:28 rangi tis a nice idea tho 20:29 chris_n oops 20:29 chris_n there it is 20:29 * chris_n considers putting it in production 20:29 cait why is it in dicussion? 20:29 rangi caveat emptor 20:29 cait ? 20:30 rangi dunno 20:30 rangi i just fixed that 20:30 chris_n cait: basically rendered: let the buyer beware 20:30 rangi (the in discussion thing) 20:31 jcamins Oh, this isn't such a good idea. 20:31 jcamins DBD::Gofer. 20:31 * cait blames accounting for her confused state of mind 20:33 jcamins Well, I guess DBD::Gofer is a good idea when you are RAM rich and processor poor. 20:33 chris_n ouch 20:33 chris_n 36 requests ☠123.05KB transferred ☠14.21s (onload: 14.21s, DOMContentLoaded: 13.96s) 20:33 jcamins But I'd rather do proper caching in Koha. 20:33 chris_n load addbooks.pl?q=history 20:33 * chris_n wonders what's wrong 20:33 jcamins chris_n: do you use NYTProf? 20:34 chris_n not atm 20:34 jcamins You should. 20:34 jcamins Makes it easy for you to see what happened when you get something like that. 20:34 rangi ohh all my 4330 got pushed yay, one step closer to being in debian proper, i still have about 100 files to fix copyright headers on, but getting there 20:34 jcamins Requires two lines: 20:35 jcamins SetEnv NYTPROF "file=/tmp/nytprof.out" 20:35 jcamins SetEnv PERL5OPT "-d:NYTProf" 20:35 jcamins If you want to automatically put it in a subdir, you can also add: Alias /nytprof/ "/tmp/nytprof/" 20:36 jcamins Then when you're testing something and run into a problem, you can just run: cd /tmp && nytprofhtml 20:36 chris_n so does it generate html output or text or? 20:36 jcamins nytprofhtml turns the log into HTML. 20:36 chris_n cool 20:36 jcamins That's how I figured out that SearchAuthorities was broken. 20:41 chris_n jcamins: is stuff like "No file line range data for sub foo" commong? 20:41 chris_n common even 20:41 jcamins chris_n: yeah, it has something to do with autoload. 20:42 chris_n k... its processing the log file now 20:42 jcamins My rule of thumb is that anything getting loaded in a compiled form is something I don't have any control over anyway. 20:44 chris_n hmm 20:44 chris_n seems to be hung up 20:44 jcamins chris_n: it can take a *loong* time. 20:45 chris_n ahh 20:45 jcamins Depends how much code was run. 20:47 jenkins_koha Starting build #30 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 20:47 chris_n jcamins: so I end up with a directory full of html files 20:47 chris_n and get koha 404 messages when attempting to access them.... :-( 20:48 jcamins chris_n: and you added the alias? 20:49 chris_n yes, and can browse the directory 20:49 jcamins That's weird! 20:49 chris_n om 20:49 chris_n I ran it as root 20:49 chris_n is that bad? 20:49 jcamins Hm. 20:49 jcamins I always run it as my Koha user. 20:50 chris_n no joy 20:50 chris_n chown to www-data did not help 20:50 chris_n ahh 20:51 rangi bug 7794 20:51 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7794 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, stephane.delaune, Pushed to Master , redefine the field id as PRIMARY KEY of sessions 20:51 rangi im leaning towards holding that over to 3.10 20:51 chris_n jcamins: trailing slash gotcha 20:51 jcamins chris_n: ah, yeah, that'll do it. 20:52 jcamins rangi: makes sense to me. 20:52 rangi since it doesnt win us anything significant, and potentially might break something 20:52 chris_n rangi: +1 20:52 rangi cool will do 20:53 chris_n ouch 20:53 chris_n Profile of /home/koha/koha.prod/cataloguing/addbooks.pl for 23.9s, executing 838930 statements and 207556 subroutine calls in 305 source files and 976 string evals. 20:53 jcamins Bother. 20:53 chris_n ~24 seconds 20:53 jcamins Speaking of trailing slash gotchas. 20:53 rangi bug 7729 the same 20:53 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7729 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mjr, Needs Signoff , svc API should allow modification of items 20:53 chris_n blisteringly slow 20:53 chris_n rangi: agree 20:53 jcamins I just discovered that I had a slash extra (or too few) in my rsync and my apt repo wasn't updated properly. 20:55 chris_n looks like the templating stuff takes forever 20:55 pastebot "chris_n" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Top 15 Subroutines — ordered" (19 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/416 20:56 chris_n any thoughts on what direction to look? 20:56 jcamins I have no idea what Storable is even doing there. 20:57 jcamins I'm also unclear why it's running gunzip. 20:58 chris_n # spent 2.86s within Storable::mretrieve which was called 48 times, avg 59.5ms/call: 20:58 chris_n # 48 times (2.86s+0s) by Storable::thaw at line 415 of Storable.pm, avg 59.5ms/call 20:58 chris_n glub, glub :-P 20:58 jcamins Wait. 20:59 jcamins Oh, never mind. 20:59 jcamins The math does add up. 20:59 jcamins It's milliseconds not nanoseconds. 20:59 * chris_n wonders just what's being passed in to thaw() 20:59 chris_n 411 48 214ms my ($frozen) = @_; 21:00 jcamins I'm profiling it on my system to see what I see. 21:00 chris_n or if its just freezing things so hard that it takes a long time to thaw them back out... ;-) 21:00 jcamins It's a bit faster. 21:02 jcamins The results are nothing like that. 21:02 jcamins Clear your sessions? 21:02 chris_n will try 21:03 jcamins I spend 301 microseconds in mretrieve. 21:03 chris_n oo 21:03 chris_n look at this monstrosity 21:03 chris_n mysql> SELECT count(*) FROM sessions; 21:03 chris_n +----------+ 21:03 chris_n | count(*) | 21:03 chris_n +----------+ 21:03 chris_n | 213750 | 21:03 chris_n +----------+ 21:04 chris_n 1 row in set (3.82 sec) 21:04 jcamins Memcached. 21:04 wahanui i think memcached is running, but I dunno it Koha uses it. 21:04 jcamins It's the way to go. :P 21:04 chris_n its running :-) 21:04 chris_n do I need to clear the ntyprof log each time? 21:04 jcamins No, just refresh and run nytprofhtml again. 21:05 jcamins The configuration I suggested is a bit brittle because it will only keep the log for the last page load, but I find it works well enough for me. 21:05 chris_n well, its running 21:06 chris_n there was not much perceptible change in load time 21:06 chris_n jcamins: it will probably be fine for my use too 21:07 chris_n very nice tool 21:07 chris_n entirely too much red, though 21:09 rangi http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/ 21:09 rangi check out the top right 21:09 cait yay! 21:10 * cait changes and finds out she is still not understanding french 21:10 * cait switches back 21:10 cait rangi++ 21:11 rangi refresh now 21:11 cait heh 21:11 cait not sure I understand that :) 21:12 rangi gaetan_B: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/ <-- look at the top right 21:12 chris_n rangi++ 21:12 gaetan_B version 4.2.1 ? 21:12 rangi below that 21:12 chris_n DE now 21:12 chris_n nice! 21:12 gaetan_B oooh 21:12 gaetan_B ha :) 21:13 chris_n too bad it won't automagically translate comments ;-) 21:13 cait or our statuses 21:13 rangi that would be pretty cool :) 21:13 cait google translate :) 21:13 rangi but no, its static templates, like we do for koha 21:13 chris_n jcamins: Profile of /home/koha/koha.prod/cataloguing/addbooks.pl for 22.6s, 21:13 chris_n after truncating sessions 21:13 chris_n :-( 21:14 * gaetan_B is going to bed... good night #koha! 21:14 cait he is faster than oleonard even 21:17 cait how is the go live going? 21:18 * chris_n is glad there are no users around :( 21:18 chris_n data is ok 21:18 chris_n but it serves pages as slow as chrome rusts 21:18 cait that sounds painful 21:19 cait and you were not able to locate the problem yet? 21:19 cait newer versions were reported to be faster 21:19 chris_n maybe resources? 21:19 chris_n this is a single core/single cpu 1.2GHz w/1G ram 21:19 chris_n but I don't thing it should be *that* slow 21:20 chris_n I can eat an entire chocolate chip cookie while the search page loads 21:20 cait oh 21:20 cait hand over the cookies then :) 21:21 cait so it will get faster 21:21 chris_n addbooks.pl appears to consume 87% of the cpu cycles, so maybe it is resources 21:21 * chris_n heads home 21:22 chris_n this is a tomorrow problem :-P 21:22 cait good luck tomorrow :) 21:22 cait maybe you dream the solutoin 21:22 chris_n lol! 21:23 chris_n more likely dream about eating more cookies :) 21:23 cait heh 21:24 cait I have the cookies now - dream the solution! 21:27 jcamins Yikes. That's a pretty dinky little server. 21:27 jcamins Maybe time to upgrade? 21:40 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #30: SUCCESS in 53 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/30/ 21:40 jenkins_koha oleonard: Bug 8014 - On the patron entry form hide "restricted until" field if "Restricted: No" is checked 21:40 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8014 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , On the patron entry form hide "restricted until" field if "Restricted: No" is checked 21:40 jenkins_koha Starting build #31 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 21:44 cait !jenkins botsnack cupcake 21:44 jenkins_koha cait: great! yum yum. how did you know that cupcake is my favorite food? 21:45 rangi heh 21:46 cait !rangi rmaintsnack muffin 21:46 rangi i love muffins! 21:47 cait good guess, eh? :) 21:48 rangi bug 7818 21:48 wahanui hmmm... bug 7818 is waiting for my QA. Should be pretty painless, as it works a charm. 21:48 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7818 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Passed QA , support DOM mode for Zebra indexing of bibliographic records 21:48 rangi yay 21:48 gmcharlt huzzah 21:49 cait gmcharlt++ :) 21:52 cait good night #koha 21:54 rangi night cait 22:32 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #31: SUCCESS in 52 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/31/ 22:32 jenkins_koha srdjan: bug_8056: sorted out slip print calls