Time Nick Message 23:48 rangi we dont have a syspref to control the titlenotes tab eh? needs to be hidden with jquery/css ? 23:14 mtj cool... i'm def. not doing it manually :) 23:14 eythian you can do an interactive rebase and commit --amend -s at each step I think 23:13 * jcamins_away leaves again. 23:13 jcamins_away filter-tree also works. 23:13 jcamins_away mtj: I generally end up cherry-picking them one at a time. 23:13 rangi one way, fresh branch, apply 1, sign off, attach, apply 2nd, sign off attach 23:12 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7065 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Signed Off , reserves table needs a primary key 23:12 bag bug 7065 23:12 mtj so, now i'm looking for a way to add a sign-off string to each of those patches, before i 'git-bz attach' them 23:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3521 enhancement, P3, ---, koha.sekjal, Pushed to Master , Items table in catalogue/detail.pl and cataloguing/additem.pl is sorted nonsensically 23:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7948 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Passed QA , Printing transfer slip loses barcode field focus 23:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8057 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Error when adding a patron with email address 23:11 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 3521 - Items table in catalogue/detail.pl and cataloguing/additem.pl is sorted nonsensically 23:11 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 7948 - Printing transfer slip loses barcode field focus 23:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7788 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Tiny problems with calling GetShelf 23:11 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 8057 - Error when adding a patron with email address 23:11 jenkins_koha * m.de.rooy: Bug 7788: [SIGNED-OFF] Followup: GetShelf call in addbybiblio script corrected 23:11 jenkins_koha * m.de.rooy: Bug 7788: [SIGNED-OFF] Remove two unused calls to GetShelf 23:11 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #731: SUCCESS in 54 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/731/ 23:10 rangi imho 23:10 rangi yeah that makes maintenance harder 23:10 mtj i prefer to squash that stuff down :) 23:10 rangi huge patches are a mess to debug 23:10 rangi but thats a personal opinion 23:09 rangi i wouldnt 23:09 mtj heres my Q? can-i/should-i rebase those 18 individual patches into 1 patch? 23:08 mtj so, the quotes stuff looks good 23:08 mtj ah... yep :) 23:03 rangi thats as much of that thread as i can handle in a day 23:02 rangi im done 22:25 jcamins ;) 22:25 jcamins And there's more karma in it once you've finished with the QAing. 22:24 jcamins mtj++ 22:24 * jcamins wasn't. 22:24 mtj ... in case someone else was about to start 22:24 jcamins Even better! 22:24 jcamins Woohoo! 22:24 mtj im gonna have a go at QA-ing chris_n's quotes patch now 22:24 jcamins :) 22:24 jcamins It's also optional, so if it were incorporated right now, everything would continue working just as it does now. 22:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8092 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Koha should use CHI caching framework 22:23 jcamins mtj: the caching stuff is really cool. Bug 8092. 22:23 jcamins rangi: this one is *all* yours. 22:20 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 3521 - Items table in catalogue/detail.pl and cataloguing/additem.pl is sorted... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f9352e89ac202eb84b235c3460f7d633db88ca14> / Bug 7948 - Printing transfer slip loses barcode field focus <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0cdd38a5ae77d9cb084e46a8a7ca377b6f0cfaac> / Bug 8057 - Error when adding a patron with email address <http: 22:19 mtj chris_n: about? 22:17 jenkins_koha Starting build #731 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 22:10 huginn bag: The current temperature in K6LCM-Westside/Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 19.7°C (3:10 PM PDT on May 22, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.85 in 1011 hPa (Falling). Wind Advisory in effect until 9 am PDT Thursday... 22:10 bag @wunder 93109 22:09 rangi hehe 22:09 rangi reformat your box now and run away 22:09 jcamins Wow. 22:09 jcamins Oh. 22:09 rangi the mailing list koha-deps.pl thread 22:08 jcamins rangi: uh-oh. What's that? 22:08 rangi hmm i think this is not going to go well 21:53 cait1 jcamins++ 21:50 wizzyrea good one. 21:50 wizzyrea Ooooooo 21:47 rangi nice! 21:45 jcamins Also, very cool feature of dedup_authorities and flip_headings: if you hit Ctrl-C to cancel it, you'll get a summary of what it did. 21:45 * jcamins adds a --report option. 21:38 wizzyrea (in a meaningful way) 21:38 * wizzyrea admits that authorities are somewhat beyond her, as her system doesn't (currently) use them 21:38 jcamins Put together, link_bibs_to_authorities, flip_headings, and dedup_authorities make it almost bearable to have authorities in Koha. 21:37 jcamins wizzyrea: I don't think you saw the POD for my heading flipper, either. 21:37 rangi yep, that is cool ! 21:37 jcamins wizzyrea: thanks. 21:37 wizzyrea jcamins++ nice work 21:31 pastebot "jcamins" at 24.193.130.86 pasted "DEDUP_AUTHORITIES(1) User Cont" (62 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/408 21:20 jcamins In ten minutes. 21:20 francharb_afk see yaaa 21:20 francharb_afk and good night! 21:20 jcamins 1304! 21:20 jcamins Woohoo! 21:20 jcamins Thanks. 21:20 jcamins I'm still fiddling. 21:20 francharb_afk good luck! 21:20 jcamins francharb_afk: that's okay. 21:19 francharb_afk jcamins, I wish I could find time to help you! 21:16 jcamins I'm trying again with a different option. 21:16 cait yes, made it to hamburg, went to see 2 sessions and had dinner :) 21:16 jcamins It's only removed 804 so far. 21:16 jcamins francharb_afk: that's what I need! I need to know that my deduplicator is removing all the duplicates! 21:16 cait hi all :) 21:16 francharb_afk hi cait 21:16 jcamins Made it to Hamburg? 21:16 francharb_afk I can go to bed peacefull 21:16 rangi hi cait 21:16 francharb_afk the duplicates are in the authority export the library gave us 21:15 francharb_afk it's not our script fault 21:15 francharb_afk \0/ 21:07 jcamins Of course, my deduplicator may be close to done. 21:07 francharb_afk :) 21:06 jcamins francharb_afk: if I can't find it I'll ask hdl. 21:06 francharb_afk jcamins, I don"t know where it is now 21:06 * jcamins goes looking for the script. 21:06 francharb_afk but you should ask him later 21:06 francharb_afk I think he fixed it 21:06 francharb_afk but we had problem when merging authorities heading in biblios 21:06 jcamins Hmm. 21:05 francharb_afk hdl worked on a new script lately 21:05 jcamins francharb_afk: I had an old deduplicator script, but it didn't work. Do you have a new one? 21:04 francharb_afk jcamins, do you know that biblibre worked on deduplicate script too? 21:04 datadoctor good luck deduplicating! and good evening all. 21:04 francharb_afk :) 21:03 datadoctor nodding off... 21:03 libsysguy later #koha 21:03 jcamins francharb_afk: maybe I need your database then to test the deduplicator! ;) 21:03 datadoctor mmmm sleep! 21:03 libsysguy headed to gym…probably won't be back till tomorrow 21:03 francharb_afk testing migration is fun! 21:02 francharb_afk hummm, obviously, there are duplicate authorities in this migration! I need to find out why and then, time to sleep!! 21:02 jcamins Go figure. 21:02 jcamins Actually, that might not be entirely unreasonable. 21:01 francharb_afk rangi, yep 21:01 jcamins That's okay. My deduplicator only wants to delete 800 authorities in an authority file with 176k records. 21:01 rangi its 11pm isnt it? 21:01 rangi hehe 21:01 francharb_afk maybe, it's time for to go to bed! 21:00 francharb_afk and I'm realizing that most of my sentences are missing words... 20:59 francharb_afk :) 20:59 francharb_afk I will find another way then! 20:59 jcamins I just knew it existed. 20:59 francharb_afk :) 20:59 francharb_afk hehe 20:59 jcamins francharb_afk: I have never actually tried that script. 20:59 francharb_afk anyway... is the -t option working? 20:58 francharb_afk hehe 20:58 francharb_afk (oh god, i'm with english tenses!) 20:58 francharb_afk but I just found at least 1 authorities that should have been deleted I ran it for real 20:57 francharb_afk 0 authorities parsed, 0 deleted and 0 unchanged because used 20:57 francharb_afk ./remove_unused_authorities.pl -t 20:57 francharb_afk and it gave me 20:57 francharb_afk I just ran it 20:57 francharb_afk jcamins, have you ever used the remose_unused_authoritites.pl script? 20:56 wahanui logs is, like, http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/ 20:56 libsysguy logs? 20:56 libsysguy dang it sekjal lol 20:55 libsysguy I was hoping to catch him 20:55 libsysguy haha i saw that on G+ 20:55 jcamins He's gone now. 20:55 jcamins libsysguy: sekjal was asking about Catalyst. 20:51 wizzyrea still true. :) 20:51 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #83: "<wizzyrea> you can watch the sunrise around the world in #koha" (added by druthb at 06:29 PM, July 13, 2010) 20:51 wizzyrea @quote random 20:50 rangi heh 20:50 wizzyrea LOL 20:50 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #194: "oleonard: Everyone will be all, Wow, that guys smells like he really wishes he could have sex!" (added by wizzyrea at 06:55 PM, March 29, 2012) 20:50 wizzyrea @quote random 20:50 sekjal goodnight, #koha! 20:43 kathryn hi there wizzyrea 20:41 rangi chris_n: did you get my message? 20:39 wizzyrea mornin kathryn 20:38 kathryn morning : ) 20:34 jcamins Figured it out. Never mind. 20:33 jcamins *Always* a good idea. 20:33 * chris_n quits while he can 20:33 rangi never a bad idea 20:33 jcamins Yes! 20:33 jcamins Now, why did my authority deduplicator delete only 804 authorities in an authority file with 176k authorities? 20:33 francharb_afk I going to save my database first! 20:33 jcamins I thought I remembered that paul_p had written a script to do that. 20:32 francharb_afk perfect! 20:32 francharb_afk :) 20:32 jcamins Use -t to see if it'll do what you want. 20:32 jcamins francharb_afk: misc/migration_tools/remove_unused_authorities.pl? :D 20:31 francharb_afk ;) 20:31 francharb_afk jcamins, since I'm not into coding, I will go with the ExtractValue option but later... 20:30 jcamins I think your only options are ExtractValue or a script that uses SearchAuthorities to get the metadata. 20:30 francharb_afk :) 20:30 jcamins Ouch! 20:30 francharb_afk 450000 something 20:29 francharb_afk jcamins, way too much 20:29 rangi bit trickier then 20:29 francharb_afk and I noticed some slow... 20:29 jcamins francharb_afk: how many authorities are there? 20:29 rangi ahhh 20:29 francharb_afk but I think there a migration running on the same server 20:29 francharb_afk mind 20:29 francharb_afk rangi, humm, sounds like what I have in ming 20:28 rangi oh, hmm ill get you something for that 20:28 francharb_afk ;) 20:28 francharb_afk but when I'm testing something very wild I need over brutal music! it's war time in my head!!! 20:28 * rangi finds temporary tables quite handy 20:27 rangi you could do it by doing one extract value into a temporary table, then another into another table 20:27 francharb_afk ahah! I like the music! 20:27 rangi francharb_afk: do you have access to the db from the cli? 20:26 jcamins Yeah, it'd definitely bring down the server. 20:26 rangi francharb_afk: this might help you keep positive when doing a crazy migration http://grooveshark.com/#!/s/Greatest+Of+All+Time/SQ7fE?src=5 20:26 francharb_afk :) 20:26 francharb_afk to many "extractValue" in one sql report are never a good idea... 20:25 francharb_afk :) 20:25 francharb_afk i have these crazy sql report in mind but I fear the server i 'm testing on would go down if 'im using it... 20:25 jcamins Easiest would be to write a little script to give you a list of unused authorities. 20:24 * jcamins thinks about what non-difficult ways there are. 20:24 jcamins francharb_afk: there are not difficult ways, though. 20:24 francharb_afk :) 20:24 francharb_afk great! 20:23 jcamins francharb_afk: there is not. 20:23 rangi francharb_afk: ahhh :) 20:23 francharb_afk :) 20:23 rangi hmm http://www.librarytechnology.org/ltg-displaytext.pl?RC=16839 <--- interesting 20:23 francharb_afk rangi, tonight, I'm testing a wild migration! 20:23 francharb_afk do you know if there is a simple way to get every authid that does'nt have linked biblio? 20:23 * chris_n tries to regain his balance 20:23 rangi you're outside your timezone :) 20:23 rangi :) 20:23 rangi a wild francharb_afk appears 20:23 rangi oooh 20:22 francharb_afk hi all 20:22 jcamins Well, that didn't work. 20:21 rangi heh 20:20 * jcamins passes the glue. 20:20 chris_n glue please... 20:04 chris_n s/Heavy Rain/Heavy $0.05-sized Hail/ 20:03 huginn chris_n: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is 20.0°C (3:55 PM EDT on May 22, 2012). Conditions: Heavy Rain. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 29.81 in 1009 hPa (Rising). 20:03 chris_n @wunder 28334 19:59 rangi Cya 19:59 oleonard See y'all tomorrow 19:59 * oleonard must quit 19:42 rangi Thanks oleonard 19:41 oleonard A belated happy birthday to you rangi 19:39 wahanui morning is, like, a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast 19:39 jcamins Morning. 19:38 wizzyrea heya 19:38 rangi Morning 19:33 sekjal nice 19:32 jcamins https://github.com/libsysguy/koha-catalyst 19:32 jcamins Oh, I may be mistaken. 19:31 jcamins sekjal: he had some problems with pushing to his git repository, and I don't think he's figured them out yet. 19:31 sekjal not something I can throw time at, myself, as excited as I may be 19:31 sekjal jcamins: I remember him talking a bit Catalyst.... I'd be interested to see his work 19:31 * chris_n thinks that's a tall order :) 19:30 jcamins sekjal: libsysguy has been working on a proof-of-concept porting Koha to catalyst. 19:30 chris_n but only on in-house apps 19:29 * chris_n has done some work w/catalyst 19:29 * oleonard solicits opinions on the Koha list about patron messages/notes 19:29 sekjal wires nicely into T:T, DBIx, Solr, PSGI/FastCGI, etc 19:29 sekjal was reading up on the Catalyst framework... sounds like it'd make development much, much easier 19:25 sekjal hi, chris_n 19:24 chris_n heya sekjal 19:15 wizzyrea maybe "patron homebranch (migrated)" or something 19:15 wizzyrea who dun it 19:14 wizzyrea well yea, the current note doesn't say 19:14 oleonard I wonder how you would convert existing notes to use the messaging system? What library would you assign them to? Patron home branch maybe? 19:13 wizzyrea something new was added and the old feature wasn't taken out. 19:13 wizzyrea *nod* I think we have a problem similar to the notices/messaging tab conundrum of yore. 19:12 oleonard I just added a comment to that effect 19:12 wizzyrea and if the fix is "make it so that shows there" I'd contend that we don't need that note at all 19:11 wizzyrea at least you couldn't find it? 19:11 wizzyrea well, but you said that it had never done what she says it has? 19:10 oleonard I think that's what she means by "but there are messages that are OPAC specific and those show in the staff client" 19:10 * wizzyrea will note that on the bug 19:10 wizzyrea but not if you use the opac note in the edit borrower 19:10 wizzyrea *if you use the messaging system* 19:10 wizzyrea she's wrong - it does show on the patron screen 19:10 wizzyrea Also 19:08 wizzyrea unless you know of something. 19:08 wizzyrea there's nothing you can do with them that you can't do with the messaging system. 19:08 wizzyrea well both of the notes really. 19:07 wizzyrea I think we should get rid of the OPAC note in the edit screen. 19:06 wizzyrea http://screencast.com/t/19ryC14Tld 19:06 wizzyrea right 19:06 oleonard Oh, by messaging system you mean the notes added on circ 19:05 wizzyrea there are notes in the edit patron screen 19:05 oleonard How do you mean wizzyrea? 19:04 wizzyrea in favor of the messaging system. 19:04 wizzyrea they are redundant 19:04 wizzyrea and actually, I think we need to get rid of those notes 19:04 jcamins (see what I did there?:) 19:04 jcamins That's why it's called the OPAC note. 19:04 wizzyrea that's not the purpose of opac note. 19:03 wizzyrea uh, I don't think it ever has 19:03 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7506 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , opac note not showing in staff client anymore 19:03 * oleonard cannot find a previous revision of circulation.pl that included the OPAC note (Bug 7506) 19:02 wizzyrea i mean, I know what syndetics is 19:02 oleonard It's so specific as to really demand an in house assignment 19:02 jcamins No idea. 19:02 jcamins Ah. 19:02 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7694 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Syndetics_Editons not included 19:02 wizzyrea bug 7694 19:02 jcamins Huh? 19:01 wizzyrea whoa, that bug is … what does that even mean. 18:45 Oak later. 18:45 Oak me go sleep now. 18:39 * chris_n imagines a new bz button "Random Reassignment" 18:37 oleonard it would do just as much good. 18:36 chris_n oleonard: you could always just randomly assign it to someone else ;-) 18:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7694 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Syndetics_Editons not included 18:22 oleonard I would un-assign myself from Bug 7694 if I could. 18:20 chris_n stimulus rather 18:20 chris_n ahh... a programmed response to an external stimuli 18:14 oleonard Ah nice, I've finally trained myself to ask whether I *really* want to investigate another tags-related bug. 18:01 * chris_n notes that boolean charts in bugzilla don't seem to be enabled correctly 17:44 hdl1 have a nice evening 17:43 hdl1 magnuse: around ? 17:41 Oak well. anyway. me quiet now. 17:40 Oak i had many tabs open all day scrolling up and down... 17:40 Oak i did my project in Koha... and it would not have been possible without the documentation you maintain... wanted to say that. thank you! 17:37 * Oak goes to the fridge 17:37 Oak have some water. 17:37 Oak hmm. 17:36 Oak ah. well, good. but don't work too much. Vienna waits for you. 17:36 nengard still not up to date on the 3.8 manual and 3.8.1 is already out 17:36 Oak :) hmm 17:36 nengard yes, lots and lots of work to do lately 17:36 nengard hehe 17:36 nengard just been quiet 17:36 Oak but quiet 17:36 nengard I'm logged in every day 17:36 Oak nengard, you are not here much these days? 17:35 Oak nengard++ 17:35 huginn nengard: The operation succeeded. 17:35 nengard @later tell magnuse i pushed your patches to the 3.8 manual - let me know if they're for 3.6 as well 17:35 Oak b-ok 17:35 nengard you? 17:35 nengard a-ok 17:35 Oak how are you today nengard ? 17:13 nengard magnuse around? 17:03 kyleh i think circcontrol is being mis-used here. It should use the maxissueqty for the item's home library ( or fallback to the 'all libraries' rule ), but it should still count all issues from any library. 17:03 jcamins Oh, Perl. Please don't be so confusing. 17:00 oleonard Hi all 16:59 hdl1 But it never got pushed. 16:59 kyleh it's *interesting* to say the least. 16:59 jcamins Fortunately, it turned out I didn't need to do anything with TooMany. 16:59 hdl1 BibLibre have had circulation rules revamping proposed. 16:59 jcamins kyleh: I was just looking at the sub, and being totally baffled. 16:58 hdl1 kyleh: for what it is worth, i would too consider it a bug... But I have a very pessimistic view of circulation rules. 16:57 wizzyrea i'm glad that you were able to grok that, it's difficult to explain. 16:56 kyleh thanks, I'll try it and see what happens. 16:56 wizzyrea which sounds similar to your situation, to me, after a fashion. 16:56 wizzyrea otherwise no hold items will be picked for that patron category 16:55 wizzyrea we have to add a rule for patroncat - itype for walkin 16:55 wizzyrea if we define one rule for a patron category in a branch 16:55 wizzyrea we have a rule, walkin itypes are no hold allowed 16:54 wizzyrea (same with itemtypes, btw) 16:54 wizzyrea for example 16:54 wizzyrea if you have a rule by patron category defined for any library 16:54 wizzyrea well, let me rephrase 16:54 wizzyrea the rule needs to be duplicated in every branch 16:54 wizzyrea is if you have a rule defined for any library, if there is a mismatch between home/holding branch 16:53 wizzyrea I think what happens 16:53 wizzyrea we actually have the opposite situation here, we prefer the rules of the holding branch 16:52 kyleh won't that still only count the issues for items of the home library, just for each home library? 16:51 wizzyrea which isn't how the default should work. 16:51 wizzyrea is a rule for WTMP in every library 16:51 wizzyrea I think what you need 16:51 wizzyrea at least I think it is. 16:50 wizzyrea right, that is similar to something we see with holds sometimes 16:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8137 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , Checkout limit by patron category for all libraries 16:49 kyleh is this actually a bug, or is it intended? bug 8137 16:40 * chris_n wanders off in search of food 16:18 jcamins So if I have a 2xx field in an authority, it could be turned into a 6xx field for a bib, but the 6xx field in the bib might need to be divided into several authorities. 16:17 hdl1 each $3 is in fact the id of the topic. 16:16 hdl1 and $z a chronological topic. 16:16 jcamins Ah-ha. 16:16 hdl1 And $x another one 16:16 hdl1 And $z another topic 16:15 hdl1 where $a is a topic 16:15 hdl1 606 $311971242$aGéopolitique$311975995$z20e siècle$311931877$xDictionnaires$2rameau 16:15 hdl1 this leads to 606 $311935621$aHistoire universelle$z20e siècle$311931877$xDictionnaires$2rameau 16:13 jcamins Okay, that's similar to the way it works in MARC21, though it looks like UNIMARC is more flexible. 16:12 hdl1 with multiple authorities 16:12 hdl1 librarians can compose an authority heading 16:11 hdl1 http://guiderameau.bnf.fr/pdf/rameau_0001.pdf 16:11 hdl1 BUT.... there is a but, you may also find composed authorities just as in Rameau. 16:10 hdl1 in this document, page 2, you have the standards. 16:10 jcamins Okay, I think that answers my question, thanks! 16:09 hdl1 http://www.bnf.fr/documents/UnimarcA.pdf 16:08 hdl1 But you may also find it as PART of a 6XX field 16:08 hdl1 You may find it in a 6XX field. 16:08 hdl1 kind of a challenge. 16:07 hdl1 Well... 16:07 hdl1 ah.... 16:07 jcamins If we have an authority with a 245 field (for example), where would I find the heading in a bib? 16:07 hdl1 and ? 16:06 hdl1 jcamins: ? 16:06 jcamins I'm trying to understand authorities. 16:06 jcamins Well, not so much a problem as a question. 16:06 jcamins hdl1: I'm the one with the UNIMARC problem. 16:05 hdl1 ASUSunDevil: what is your problem with UNIMARC? 15:58 * jcamins mumbles imprecations about standards. 15:56 jcamins slef: come now, authorities aren't *that* boring. 15:53 slef zzzz 15:52 jcamins You're welcome. 15:52 ASUSunDevil excellent, that helps me out a lot. Thanks agian! 15:51 jcamins ASUSunDevil: I don't think it really makes a difference. I use Debian for development and Ubuntu Server on my servers. 15:51 jcamins Any other UNIMARCers might be able to help me, too. 15:51 ASUSunDevil jcamins: one last question, is there a preference of Debian over Ubuntu? Or are they both fairly starightforward for installing Koha? Is there a industry standard on the OS for Koha that everyone seems to use over most others? 15:49 wahanui unimarc is http://www.ifla.org/en/publications/unimarc-formats-and-related-documentation 15:49 jcamins unimarc? 15:49 jcamins francharb: around? 15:43 jcamins Good luck. 15:43 ASUSunDevil Excellent, that you all so much! I'll get to work on that, hopefully 3.8 will solve most of my problems. Thanks agian! 15:42 jcamins Yes. 15:42 ASUSunDevil Sounds good, and from what I am told 3.8 is the most current release of Koha, is that correct? 15:41 jcamins ASUSunDevil: I'd use the most recent version of Ubuntu Server. 15:41 ASUSunDevil Yeah, I think that is what I am shooting towards. I orginally used CentOS and had to do a bunch of manual set up. I want to try and avoid that if I can. Looks like Ubuntu is fairly popular, so I might go that route. Is there a release of Ubuntu that is preferred for the latest version of Koha (so all the libs and everything match up and work)? 15:39 jcamins And use packages. 15:38 jcamins Debian or Ubuntu. 15:38 ASUSunDevil suggest the best Linux distro that one should use to make a Koha implemenations as painless as possible? 15:38 ASUSunDevil Yeah, I had a feeling this might be the issue. Well, maybe you guys can help me on this. My whole set up here is CentOS based, however, I find that there are other distributions that seem to work better with Koha (like, i can install it with apt or yast or whatever package manager comes with the distro). CentOS seems to need some manual hacking to get all of the Koha stuff to work. Can someone 15:36 jcamins Sounds like there's probably a problem with the livecd. 3.4 is old, and I never used the livecd at all. 15:36 ASUSunDevil thing. I just don't know how to fix it 15:36 ASUSunDevil Yes, I can search by keyword, isbn, author, anything else. It just seems that the barcode item doesn't work. Actually, to be honest, I can search by anything that was imported by the z90 search when I imported the record from LCC. Ater that there's a window that lets you add things like barcode, shelving location, etc, those I cannot search on. So I am figuring that it must be some sort of indexing 15:35 jcamins A keyword, for example? 15:34 jcamins ASUSunDevil: if you search for something other than barcode does it work? 15:34 ASUSunDevil Yeah, the person that pointed me here said the same thing, but she didn't have much experience with Zebra, and this is all new to me. In both staff client and opac, if I just do a general search for the barcode, nothing. However, if I select the option to check out an item, it prompts for the barcode and it comes up just fine... 15:33 jcamins Do you get any results when you search on anything in the staff client or OPAC? 15:33 jcamins The searching FAQ has steps to go through for troubleshooting Zebra. 15:32 jcamins ASUSunDevil: it sounds like your problem is probably with the Zebra configuration. 15:32 wahanui hmmm... searching faq is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/ 15:32 jcamins searching faq? 15:31 ASUSunDevil when I try to check out an item, it can find the barcode just fine... Any ideas? 15:31 ASUSunDevil Hello all, having a bit of trouble with implementing koha and thought maybe someone here could help. I am using the LiveCD with Koha 3.4. I know this is out of date, but I'm having a couple weird things happen and was hoping someone could point me in the right direction. First, I have items cataloged, but I cannot search by the barcode. It just tells me that no record was matched/found. However, 15:20 jcamins Interesting. 15:19 hdl1 http://code.activestate.com/ppm/Moo/ 15:18 hdl1 Or Moo 15:18 hdl1 But usualy composition is better than multiple inheritance... 15:18 libsysguy we should implement moose 15:18 hdl1 jcamins: in moose 15:17 libsysguy in overview 15:17 libsysguy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_inheritance 15:17 libsysguy dang it 15:16 libsysguy yes 15:16 jcamins Yes it can. 15:15 jcamins Multiple inheritance in Perl... can it be done? 15:10 libsysguy i guess what I should be asking is "how would you store something like 3rd monday every other month" in a database 15:09 libsysguy good point 15:06 hdl1 Those are / should be two separate issues. 15:06 hdl1 But how to display and input data. 15:05 hdl1 if this is a problem of 'interface', then it is not a problem of mysql database structure. 15:03 libsysguy and I know how we all feel about date::manip 15:02 libsysguy but I keep finding my way back to date manip 15:02 libsysguy and set out to try it that way 15:02 libsysguy but I didn't want to confuse users, so I thought "man google calendar has a very cool way of implementing recurrence events" 15:01 libsysguy that was my first thought 15:01 hdl1 mmm I guess having kind of crontab entries could be the best bet. 15:00 hdl1 that also could be helpful. 15:00 hdl1 http://cpansearch.perl.org/src/KOHTS/snaked-0.12/lib/snaked.pm 14:58 libsysguy that would be good, If i could find a way to best store it in the database first 14:56 hdl1 http://search.cpan.org/~mlehmann/AnyEvent-7.01/lib/AnyEvent/Intro.pod 14:56 hdl1 libsysguy: what you could implement is an AnyEvent minidaemon and input data from the database to run a task on a schedule. 14:49 libsysguy heh 14:49 wizzyrea just don't eat or drink anything. 14:49 * wizzyrea pats libsysguy 14:46 libsysguy :'( 14:46 * libsysguy is too far down the rabbit hole wizzyrea 14:46 wizzyrea oh dear. 14:46 libsysguy then I got caught up in representing temporal expressions lol 14:45 libsysguy http://martinfowler.com/apsupp/recurring.pdf 14:45 libsysguy that is what I was thinking too until i read Martin Fowlers paper on recurring events for calendars 14:44 wizzyrea if the notice itself is going to be identical 14:44 wizzyrea dunno, I kind of imagine a column in the db that has a specific value for "infinite" and increments on each send for finite. 14:43 libsysguy basically setting up a recurrence that could be infinate 14:43 libsysguy so I've really been trying to find the best way to represent that kind of thing in the database without taking up a million rows 14:43 wizzyrea oh, in notices 14:42 libsysguy so I am trying to rework notices so you can say I want to send notice x every other monday till the end of time, or I want to send notice y every tuesday for only 4 times 14:41 wizzyrea :) 14:41 libsysguy heh 14:41 wahanui "What are you trying to do?" "What is the goal?" or "What problem are you experiencing?" 14:41 wizzyrea the first question 14:41 wizzyrea like recurring news items? 14:41 libsysguy like the task scheduler 14:41 libsysguy yeah but for other things 14:39 wizzyrea you mean like holidays? 14:37 libsysguy or do we already have that and I just keep missing it 14:37 libsysguy have we ever thought about implementing recurring events in koha? 14:29 hdl1 stricter 14:29 hdl1 but it may be stricture. 14:28 wizzyrea there you have it. 14:27 hdl1 wizzyrea: ExtractValue Is slower. 14:18 wizzyrea i don't know if extractvalue is any faster 14:06 vfernandes how i can improve this search? 14:05 vfernandes select auth_id from auth_header where marcxml like '%$xml%' 14:01 vfernandes But using mysql the queries are extremally slow... Is there a way to improve search on marcxml in the database? 14:01 wizzyrea near the top 14:01 wizzyrea i think there's a recipe in there for that 14:01 wahanui report library is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/3.2_SQL_Reports_Library 14:01 wizzyrea report library? 14:00 vfernandes one little question... i have a database with 250000 biblio and 250000 authorities. I have to do something on my authorithies so I have to search for some string in the marcxml. 13:58 libsysguy o/ 13:57 * wizzyrea waves 13:57 vfernandes hi guys 13:44 kyleh_ if any xslt gurus are in the house, I'd appriciate some advice on but 7441 12:42 magnuse yay! 12:42 nengard will try to apply them in a bit 12:42 nengard got them 12:40 magnuse nengard: can you grab the patches from here? http://div.libriotech.no/kohamisc/kohadocs/ 12:40 magnuse tried again, but it's not showing up in the archive 12:30 magnuse hm, i just tried to subscribe, and it says "You are already subscribed to this mailing list." 12:28 nengard and others on the list said they didn't come through either 12:28 magnuse weird 12:28 nengard nope 12:27 magnuse kia ora nengard - did you ever get those two patches for the docs i tried to send to the list? 12:07 Joubu Amit_Gupta: yes :) 12:04 nengard hello 12:04 Amit_Gupta heya nengard 11:27 mib_mudld7 Can u help wit the backup procedure.. 11:22 druthb o/ 11:12 mib_mudld7 Can anyone tell me hw 2 backup and restore ur koha data 11:11 mib_mudld7 Hello 10:39 Amit_Gupta Jonathan around? 10:11 wahanui i heard the search was for the patrons not the librarians 10:11 Oak the search 10:11 Oak works :) 10:11 * Oak tries ALL chinese 10:10 Oak on that link: http://lists.katipo.co.nz/public/koha/2012-January/031714.html it says "Your icu.xml should look like this:"... will there be an xml file already available somewhere for Urdu or Arabic somewhere or will I have to create it? 10:09 cait was ALL chinese search :) 10:09 Oak thanks cait! 10:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8065 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, RESOLVED INVALID, chinese word search result all chinese biblios record 10:07 cait bug 8065 10:05 cait hmm 10:05 Oak says Zarro Boogs found. 10:04 cait Oak: try first search word ALL 10:04 cait Oak: the bug is already closed 10:04 huginn cait: No results for "ALL chinese icu." 10:04 cait @query ALL chinese icu 10:04 cait I tihnk you can just use the description in the bug then 10:04 cait ah 10:03 Oak searching 'chinese icu' returns zero results 10:03 Oak hmm 10:03 Oak i am on 3.6.4 10:03 cait I tihnk you have to change the koha conf file then 10:03 Oak hmm 10:02 cait yes, when already installed without 10:02 Oak "it might be a bit different to activate it then" you mean in the middle? 10:02 cait it might be a bit different to activate it then - not exactly sure how to do it 10:02 cait if you are using 3.8 - there is an option to activate it on install 10:01 wahanui hdl1: I forgot traveling 10:01 hdl1 wahanui: forget traveling 10:01 Oak doing it 10:01 Oak okay thank you! 10:01 cait it should bring up a recent bug with hints how to activate icu indexing 10:01 cait search bugzilla for ALL chinese icu 10:00 wahanui traveling is serious business, eh? ;-) 10:00 Oak still traveling? 10:00 Oak hmm. cool 10:00 cait yes I think so 09:58 Oak "you should be able to catalog unicode without doing anything" <-- because MySQL is set up with utf-8... and that's what matters here... right? 09:57 Oak in the middle i mean. 09:57 Oak and we can activate icu indexnig whenever we want? 09:56 cait for search you might need icu indexing activated 09:55 cait you should be able to catalog unicode without doing anything 09:54 Oak guys, once a Koha server is set up, and running, books cataloged, etc. can we make the zebra server UTF-8 compatible? Or are we supposed to do that before we cataloged books? At present all cataloging info in plain English... no unicode characters. 07:57 magnuse i'll do some digging, might not affect the parts my customers actually use... 07:57 magnuse rangi: cool 07:54 rangi magnuse: id wait for 3.8.2 there are still some bugfixes id like to see in it, awiting sign off and qa 07:25 magnuse next question: is it ready for production? 07:25 magnuse Oak 07:22 Oak tch. comma :( 07:22 Oak magnuse, 07:22 Oak rangi++ 07:20 magnuse rangi++ for 3.8.1! 07:18 magnus_afk o/ 07:16 Oak \o 07:16 * cait waves 07:15 Oak *sigh* 07:13 Oak awake enough for a question? 07:13 Oak cait! 07:13 Oak uh oh 07:12 Oak cait! 07:12 Oak Judit is gone. 07:12 Oak uh oh 07:12 Oak so now when I import the new csv with changed zero-padded dates, will Koha consider them same records and replace them (good) or add as new records (bad)? 07:11 Oak Judit, my dates in csv file that I imported earlier were like 5/8/1988... and the patron import says a note i just read that "Date formats should match your system preference, and must be zero-padded, e.g. '01/02/2008'." 07:09 julian_m hello #koha 07:05 Judit the offline circulation 07:05 Judit so anyone tried koha 3.8 with the firefox plugin? 07:03 gaetan_B hello :) 06:58 Joubu hi #koha 06:48 francharb morning #koha 06:42 Oak thank you! 06:41 Judit :) 06:41 Judit but i wish you a lot of good luck 06:41 Oak no problem :) 06:40 Judit i am sorry, i cannot help 06:37 Oak oh joy 06:37 Judit or manually change all pw in Koha 06:37 Oak what could have gone wrong? 06:37 Oak :( 06:37 Judit usng the koha tool 06:37 Judit i would try to import them in again 06:36 Oak about 1200 06:36 Oak 1200 06:36 Judit how many patrons are we talking about? 06:36 Judit just a sec 06:34 Oak Judit, so... I examine the mysql tables... 06:31 alex_a bonjour 06:30 Oak yup 06:30 Judit do you have mysql access 06:30 Oak hmm 06:30 Judit i dont see a reason 06:29 Oak yes 06:29 Judit with same results? 06:29 Judit you have tried many patrons? 06:28 Oak Judit 06:27 Oak yes I did and that worked. 06:24 Judit i mean chance the pw for a patron 06:24 Judit what if you log in to admin, and change the pw and try again with the new pw 06:21 Oak or to find out what is going on? 06:21 Oak Is there a way I can see what are the passwords of patron (instead of seeing ****) ? 06:20 Oak what could be the reason, that, I imported patron data in Koha in csv format, and filled the password column with birthday (day + month) of patrons. And the password worked when I used to access the system from university's LAN (the server had no public IP). Now that the server is publicly accessible, when I try to login, I get "ou entered an incorrect username or password. Please try again!..." 05:02 Oak kia ora #koha 04:15 Judit hi, anyone tried 3.8 with the FF offline circulation plugin? 03:12 druthb o/ 02:15 cait hi jcamins_away 02:15 cait hi jcc 02:12 jcamins_away Good morning, cait. 00:23 Judit hi