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21:28 jcamins I decided to up the requirement to 1.6Ghz, because that's still absurdly cheap.
21:26 jcamins That was my thought, too.
21:26 wizzyrea maybe I'm not thinking correctly.
21:26 wizzyrea and not even disk if you've got enough RAM
21:25 wizzyrea really disk I/O + adequate ram is what really matters.
21:25 wizzyrea I think that would be adequate
21:01 jcamins wizzyrea: say, 50k records, several hundred circs/day.
21:01 wizzyrea how big of a collection?
21:00 wahanui rumour has it the server is installed
21:00 jcamins The server.
21:00 jcamins Minimum system requirements for having a pleasant experience running Koha.
21:00 jcamins Let me clarify that.
21:00 jcamins Anyone have any thoughts on minimum system requirements for Koha?
20:30 jcamins I think so. :)
20:30 wizzyrea but I think people would like it?
20:29 wizzyrea ^.^
20:29 wizzyrea well actually, it's nothing that dire
20:29 wizzyrea right right
20:29 * jcamins is just giving you hints on how to do it in nexpress right now, with only jQuery.
20:29 wizzyrea or click table -> edit
20:29 wizzyrea click barcode -> edit item
20:29 wizzyrea edit -> edit items -> click edit on the item
20:29 jcamins wizzyrea: right. I am sold on your idea.
20:28 wizzyrea technically it's 2 clicks (and sometimes 3) no matter which way you go at it.
20:28 jcamins wizzyrea: no, I mean with jQuery you can easily check if the user has edit_catalogue privileges, and then use that information to decide whether or not you want to have the edit item button.
20:28 cait i like the idea :)
20:27 wizzyrea he may have an objection
20:27 * wizzyrea will think on it, and ask owen
20:26 wizzyrea well I want it to actually do the thing where it picks the right item and it's ready to go when you get there
20:26 wizzyrea keke
20:25 * jcamins leaves the implementation as an exercise for the reader. ;)
20:24 jcamins If "Edit items" is available, you have edit_catalogue.
20:24 jcamins :)
20:24 jcamins Still easy to do with jQuery.
20:23 jcamins Right.
20:23 wizzyrea to see the edit links
20:23 wizzyrea you would have to have edit catalogue permissions to do that, of course.
20:22 jcamins Yay!
20:22 wizzyrea it still highlights when I type something wrong (like "naw") but at least it doesn't autocorrect me
20:21 wizzyrea phew. There, think I took care of that.
20:20 * wizzyrea goes to figure out how to turn that nonsense OFF.
20:20 jcamins Disable it?
20:20 wizzyrea lion does and it is ANNOYING.
20:19 wizzyrea yes!
20:19 jcamins Your computer has autocorrect?
20:19 jcamins It does.
20:19 wizzyrea stu pid auto correct
20:19 wizzyrea this seems silly.
20:19 wizzyrea new, I was just piddling around in there and was like, but I want to jump to edit this NOW and it's like 3 clicks away
20:19 jcamins wizzyrea: yeah, that'd be easy.
20:18 cait nice
20:18 wizzyrea page*
20:18 wizzyrea I was thinking like the "click in the box show the edit link" thing he did on the add item pag
20:18 jcamins You could add a jQuery if you wanted it nownownow.
20:18 jcamins Useful enough that I think it's worth doing.
20:18 jcamins It seems vaguely useful.
20:17 jcamins Hm.
20:17 wizzyrea does this seem useful to anyone but me?
20:17 jcamins Easy peasy.
20:17 jcamins Got it.
20:17 jcamins Oh.
20:17 wizzyrea hdwib to add an "edit item" link to the holdings table on the BIB detail
20:17 wizzyrea wrong word. Let me try again
20:16 wizzyrea wait
20:16 wizzyrea you can click the barcode and see the item detail
20:16 wizzyrea not on the item detail
20:16 kathryn jcamins, in that case I revert to first greeting!
20:16 jcamins wizzyrea: didn't we already do that?
20:15 wizzyrea bye
20:15 wizzyrea answer that tomorrow
20:15 wizzyrea doh
20:15 wizzyrea oleonard - how difficult would it be to add a "edit item" link to the holdings table on the item detail
20:15 kathryn bye
20:15 oleonard Bye #koha
20:15 oleonard If NZ is awake, it must be quitting time for me
20:12 jcamins :)
20:12 jcamins There's the one that starts one degree north of you, the one that starts one degree south of you, one degree east, etc., etc.
20:11 jcamins kathryn: well, I suppose technically there are an infinite number of hemispheres you're not in.
20:11 cait :)
20:11 kathryn well probably just the one
20:10 kathryn good morning other hemispheres!
20:07 * cait waves
20:07 jcamins Good morning, New Zealand!
19:35 wizzyrea lol wow.
19:26 oleonard Another great example of fun with tables
19:26 pastebot "oleonard" at 66.213.78.34 pasted "Anatomy of GMail's "Inbox" label" (29 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/400
19:20 jcamins Wow.
19:19 wizzyrea good gracious
19:18 oleonard Google loves designing with tables.
19:18 pastebot "oleonard" at 66.213.78.34 pasted "Anatomy of a Google+ share button" (17 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/399
19:04 mle_ hey
19:03 cait hi mle_ :)
19:01 * mle_ read logs
19:00 mle_ Â¬Â¬
18:45 thd Recalcitrant hardware which refuses free software beckons.
18:44 * thd time has been terminated.
18:42 jcamins (Mondayish, maybe over the weekend, not sure)
18:41 jcamins I think there was an e-mail about it, but I don't recall when.
18:40 jcamins Nope.
18:40 * thd had wondered if there was another less official but more dynamically updated published list.
18:39 jcamins thd: I do not recall.
18:39 wahanui missing is usualy library only, an item that's not out
18:39 thd jcamins: Who is missing?
18:39 jcamins I think that's missing two Kind Hearts sponsors and one Fully Monty sponsor.
18:38 jcamins Hrm.
18:38 wahanui http://koha-community.org/kohacon12/sponsors/ is the website presentation
18:38 jcamins thd: http://koha-community.org/kohacon12/sponsors/
18:38 thd jcamins: Which sponsors list do you see with significant new members?
18:30 thd I am expecting someone who does not understand why free software does not simply work always on new hardware.
18:28 cait ... and she is waiting for slef now :)
18:28 wizzyrea thd++ even
18:28 wizzyrea the++
18:28 thd wizzyrea: I always try to break stuff very well before fixing it.
18:27 jcamins Then cait finished updating the wiki.
18:27 jcamins slef already updated the wiki.
18:27 * wizzyrea didn't mean it that way
18:26 wizzyrea hm that came off overly harsh.
18:26 thd cait has not told everyone his ideas about scheduling.
18:26 wizzyrea seconded, i want to get back to like, fixing stuff ^.^
18:26 jcamins All possible discussion having been completed.
18:25 * jcamins proposes ending the meeting.
18:25 thd The only issue which I was attempting to raise is as full an airing of whatever as possible so that the principle parties can finalise what they need to with some input for whatever little time is left in advance.
18:24 cait I can't type
18:24 cait and make wth slf without slef...
18:24 * oleonard thinks meetings without all the important players are a waste of time
18:24 jcamins :)
18:24 jcamins Yeah, I think the meeting is over.
18:24 cait i have told you all I know :)
18:24 jcamins Actually, I stand corrected. Several of the Full Monty sponsors are new since last week. I thought they'd already been announced.
18:24 cait and there is not really more as is in the chat logs now
18:23 cait I am not sure about having a meeting with slf
18:23 thd I may have to leave at any minute but someone should decide to chair the meeting and start.
18:22 thd cait: I think that you should have a meeting now and then when slef resurfaces everything can be taken into consideration for finalising on the website.
18:22 jcamins I believe he announced three sponsors on the lower tier, which would put the conference ~150GBP closer.
18:22 jcamins I don't believe there have been any major sponsors added since last week.
18:21 cait I am not sure how close or far we are from the amount we needed to raise right now
18:21 cait slef has updated the website with some new sponsors since then
18:21 thd The other issue which was raised last week was a shortfall of funding relative to expected expenses.
18:21 cait thd: I really want to push the program out - because it's only 3 weeks now!
18:20 wizzyrea hi :)
18:20 cait not a real meeting, we are missing slef and mle :)
18:20 cait hi liz :)
18:20 wizzyrea oh sorry meeting.
18:20 * wizzyrea loves git aliases
18:20 cait so that is missing right now and we haven't checked with presenters, but I hope all are available at all days
18:20 cait I didn't have the full names for the geo sci presenters
18:19 thd It never hurts to have more time for questions.
18:19 cait I think it's a great idea
18:19 cait slef had put some question and answers panels on the ends of first and second day
18:19 thd Exactly.
18:19 cait but I think it will work out, because of questions and people talking longer
18:19 cait we have a little time here and there 5-10 minutes
18:19 thd Well that is great now that everything has a place.
18:18 cait we had some open spots, but slef sent me the geo sci talks and I put them in this morning
18:18 thd The slots all seemed to be filled last week except that some were filled by short presentations. Knowing which was which was the trick.
18:18 cait http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/KohaCon12_Schedule
18:17 cait the slots are all filled now
18:16 cait I think we need to put it on the website as soon as possible
18:16 thd There were some empty spots on the schedule last week but they were not identified. Perhaps calculation of expected times would have been required to understand how various presentations fit.
18:16 cait hm I don't want to change to much on the program now without very good reason
18:14 thd I suppose that you jcamins could have a meeting about scheduling issues and whatever else, and that would be useful input to whatever information slef and wle may have.
18:11 cait I will try to ask him later
18:11 cait I think I remember slef talked to nicole about that
18:11 thd I was expecting to have jury duty today again but that is over with a settled case which never actually needed a jury.
18:10 thd The wiki is current to my knowledge but my knowledge is confined to the meetings.
18:09 cait I am not opposed to rescheduling but we should do it very very soon
18:09 thd The biggest constraint on scheduling seemed to be the constraint of how long or short people expected their presentations to run.
18:09 cait not sure
18:09 cait some of them cover open source in parts too I think
18:09 cait her talk is a bit long and we have lot of introductory things on monday
18:08 cait on the wiki is the current version
18:08 cait thd: I worked with what I knew about
18:08 thd nengard had rightly identified that having her introductory presentation on the last day was probably not the best and we swapped some scheduling.
18:07 cait and mail the list if we do
18:07 cait we could reschedule perhaps?
18:06 * thd may have to leave in about twenty minutes.
18:06 cait perhaps later tonight
18:06 cait no response so far
18:05 cait I wrote him an email with questions about the schedule this morning
18:05 thd We cannot have a meeting without both of them.
18:05 cait ah, I missed last week
18:05 cait perhaps they will turn up a bit late
18:05 thd There was comment last week about the meeting this week being difficult for the schedule of slef and mle, if I remember correctly.
18:05 cait hmm
18:03 thd mle_ ping
18:03 cait slef ping
18:03 cait and I have schedule questions :)
18:03 cait I thought so
18:03 jcamins Oh, we're having a meeting now.
18:03 jcamins cait: yes, first I'll get distracted, then I'll get reeeeeeeeeeaallllyyyyyyy distracted.
18:02 cait slef: around?
18:02 thd loose-coupling++
18:02 cait :)
18:02 cait one thing after the other ok?
18:01 jcamins At least, I could benefit a lot from Koha having that sort of loosely-coupled architecture.
18:01 jcamins cait: Koha could benefit a lot from that sort of loosely-coupled architecture.
18:00 jcamins cait: yeah.
18:00 cait and hi again all :)
18:00 cait jcamins: looking at evergreen?
17:59 * jcamins unsidetracks himself.
17:58 jcamins OpenSRF is really cool!
17:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7817 critical, P1 - high, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Items Permanent location (shelving location) is set to NULL when item is edited
17:52 kyleh I could use some feedback on bug 7817 if anyone is interested.
17:40 gmcharlt what can I do for you?
17:40 gmcharlt jcamins: no, I'm a square
17:40 jcamins gmcharlt: around?
17:28 * jcamins waves to sekjal, juan_sieira, and another talljoy.
17:06 jcamins Oh, it's the MARC view.
17:05 jcamins Hey, when does authorities/detail.tt get called?
17:05 jcamins I'm pretty sure it's leftover from the authorities/detail.tt being copied from catalogue/detail.tt.
17:04 jcamins No idea.
17:04 jcamins Wait, no, just kidding.
17:04 jcamins Heh.
17:03 * jcamins actually just finished writing up a proposal to fix that.
17:03 jcamins It's broken.
17:03 jcamins Oh, wait, yes I do.
17:03 jcamins I have no idea what that section of authorities/detail.tt does.
17:02 jcamins (the sql script)
17:02 jcamins That's not used anymore.
17:02 oleonard installer\data\mysql\ru-RU\mandatory\system_preferences_full_optimal_for_install_only.sql ?
17:01 oleonard In the OPAC it seems to be only referenced by some possibly obsolete sample data sql for the ISBD preference
17:01 jcamins I kind of like it, though.
17:01 jcamins No idea.
17:00 kf1 perhaps unimarc?
17:00 jcamins Lemme look.
17:00 jcamins filefind.png?
17:00 oleonard My search says that is referenced by authorities\detail.tt but I've never seen it. Have you jcamins ?
17:00 kf1 :)
17:00 kf1 no idea .)
16:59 oleonard ?
16:59 oleonard http://catalog.bywatersolutions.com/opac-tmpl/prog/images/filefind.png
16:14 kf1 libsysguy: around?
16:05 fabio_t bye
16:05 fabio_t hdl++
16:05 fabio_t wizzyrea++
16:04 fabio_t jcamins++
16:04 fabio_t I have to go
16:04 fabio_t solved with 3.8! thanks a lot people :)
15:54 * jcamins is a strong believer in sharing.
15:54 jcamins Of course.
15:54 jcamins Actually, I think I'd like my OPAC footer text to be on the same line as the language chooser. That will definitely be local.
15:54 oleonard If you figure it out share the code and see what people say
15:53 jcamins oleonard: unless you think other people would want the sticky language chooser too.
15:53 libsysguy lol
15:53 libsysguy pick a name
15:53 libsysguy geez talljoy
15:53 * oleonard doesn't know
15:53 oleonard libsysguy: The answer to the first half of your question may moot the second half
15:52 jcamins libsysguy: yes it is.
15:52 libsysguy oops
15:52 libsysguy ^^ is probably a question for the devel list
15:52 jcamins oleonard: I don't feel that's necessary. I'm happy to have that local.
15:52 libsysguy ok let me append something to my question about the calendar...would anyone be offended if it changed from dates per column to datetime
15:51 oleonard then we can have a new preference, OPACStickyLanguageChooser
15:51 jcamins I like the floating selector.
15:50 * jcamins may have to figure out how to change that with CSS and jQuery.
15:50 jcamins Ah.
15:49 oleonard the original decision to make it that was based on the idea that the staff client is "application-like" and the OPAC is not
15:48 jcamins Is that intentional?
15:48 jcamins Why doesn't it stick to the bottom of the window like in the staff client?
15:48 jcamins oleonard: I come to you with a question about the language chooser in the OPAC.
15:40 libsysguy is there a reason the special_holidays table stores the date across 3 columns instead of a date field?
15:15 jcamins oleonard: yes. You get that information from whoever is hosting the git repo.
15:13 oleonard In the command "git clone git://git.koha-community.org/koha.git kohaclone" where does the "koha.git" come from? Was that defined when the repo was initially set up?
15:07 fabio_t I have backed up the files
15:06 fabio_t I'm going to revert my Zebra edits and see if it works again
15:06 jcamins I could troubleshoot that if it were a problem with that.
15:06 jcamins That's all new.
15:06 fabio_t never experienced problem with it with Koha 3.6 packages UNIMARC before :)
15:06 hdl I am not really familiar with C4/Heading and UNIMARC.
15:06 jcamins hdl: yeah, 7284 rewrote that so that it was consistent.
15:05 hdl And it changed quite a lot from what I can see in master.
15:05 jcamins hdl: hm. That's how it was for MARC21, too.
15:05 hdl But I have not been looking at that code for a long time.
15:05 fabio_t I can confirm what hdl has said
15:04 hdl jcamins: it worked quite out of the box iirc.
15:03 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Stable , Authority matching algorithm improvements
15:03 jcamins I don't know how BiblioAddsAuthorities worked for UNIMARC before my work on bug 7284.
15:02 jcamins You weren't here yet.
15:02 fabio_t 3.06.04.000
15:02 jcamins hdl: fabio_t said 3.6.4 earlier. :)
15:02 fabio_t what do you mean by "is it a brand new koha setup ?"
15:01 hdl I don't know which version fabio_t is on.
15:01 jcamins It'll be in 3.6.5, though.
15:01 hdl hi jcamins.
15:01 fabio_t hi hdl
15:01 jcamins hdl: that's not in 3.6.4 yet.
15:01 hdl fabio_t: do you have BiblioAddsAuthorities LinkerModule, LinkerOptions and CatalogModuleRelink set ?
15:00 reiveune bye
14:59 jcamins Hi hdl!
14:59 jcamins Oh, hdl is a good person to talk to, also.
14:59 hdl fabio_t: is it a brand new koha setup ?
14:55 jcamins (because I rewrote it, and tested it)
14:55 jcamins I know it will work starting with 3.6.5.
14:54 jcamins fabio_t: that could be. francharb would be the person to ask about that with UNIMARC.
14:54 fabio_t jcamins: thanks for the advice.
14:54 fabio_t so I suppose something related to biblioaddsauthorities broke
14:54 fabio_t If I manually add an authority record, the database got updated, I do a full reindex and I'm able to search it too
14:53 jcamins fabio_t: one thing I should point out: if you are editing files, you might not want to use the packages.
14:49 fabio_t :)
14:49 fabio_t let me know, because I'm not sure about being clear
14:49 fabio_t in few steps
14:48 fabio_t I'm going to sum it up again if it helps
14:47 fabio_t thanks again then
14:47 wizzyrea bottom line: don't worry, I guess ^.^
14:47 jcamins fabio_t: then don't worry about it. :)
14:47 wizzyrea fabio_t: don't worry about your english :) we'll figure it out.
14:47 fabio_t everything seems to work fine
14:47 jcamins fabio_t: are you having functional problems?
14:47 fabio_t I apologize for my bad english...
14:46 libsysguy sorry jcamins
14:46 libsysguy hey
14:46 wizzyrea I'm confused, I thought you said you didn't want the authorities added.
14:46 fabio_t but new biblio doesn't add any authority in the database
14:45 fabio_t authority controlled fields are filled
14:45 fabio_t sorry, you're right
14:45 fabio_t it seems biblioaddsauthorities is not working
14:45 mtj jcamins: gotcha :)
14:45 wizzyrea if you're not adding any data to authority controlled fields, it wont
14:45 fabio_t so auth_header is empty
14:44 fabio_t wizzyrea: if I create a new bib, no auth is going to be added
14:44 wahanui testing is fun! or easier when you have a test plan. Hint hint.
14:44 jcamins libsysguy: testing?
14:44 jcamins mtj: only if you add authority-controlled fields to the record, which fabio_t is not.
14:44 wizzyrea it should, if you add it to an authority controlled field
14:44 mtj jcamins: 'biblioaddsauthorities' syspref creates an authority record, when adding a bib record?
14:43 wizzyrea so, are you really saying that you can't search for the bib you just created? Are you typing in "search the catalog" or are you searching specifically in the authorities
14:43 fabio_t ok
14:43 jcamins The authority indexing configuration only applies to authority records, and you are editing bibliographic records.
14:42 fabio_t :)
14:42 jcamins Don't worry. They won't be.
14:42 fabio_t I have added some new fields in bibliographic frameworks, but I don't want them to be authority-indexed
14:42 jcamins It is used for authority records.
14:41 jcamins Because auth_header has nothing to do with bibliographic records.
14:41 fabio_t my question is: "why auth_header isn't filled when I create a new bibliographic record?"
14:41 wizzyrea ^^ this was going to be my question
14:40 jcamins I don't know much about UNIMARC, and the authority linking support in 3.6.4 was quite poor, but are you sure that you are adding fields that are authority-controlled?
14:40 fabio_t yep
14:39 jcamins If there's nothing in auth_header, no amount of Zebra configuration is going to add an authority.
14:39 fabio_t * authority
14:39 fabio_t no authorities is added
14:39 fabio_t if I create a bibliographic record
14:39 jcamins You don't have any authorities.
14:39 jcamins Oh, quite possibly.
14:39 fabio_t my problem is I can't search authorities
14:39 fabio_t I was wondering if I could have broken something by editing unimarc bibliographic framework and zebra configuration
14:38 jcamins fabio_t: so what is the problem?
14:38 fabio_t the authorities table in database doesn't get filled
14:38 fabio_t and the search on typographs' brand works well too
14:37 fabio_t I was listing the things I've edited
14:36 wizzyrea (as appropriate to your situation)
14:36 fabio_t I know
14:36 jcamins I'm familiar with fingerprints, but they have nothing to do with authorities.
14:36 wizzyrea ^^ it helps us if you answer these
14:36 wahanui "What are you trying to do?" "What is the goal?" or "What problem are you experiencing?"
14:36 jcamins first question?
14:36 fabio_t I'm doing a project about Antiquarian books
14:36 wizzyrea roasted, mashed, steamed, yum.
14:36 fabio_t * typographic mark
14:35 * jcamins too, actually.
14:35 * wizzyrea LOVES parsnips
14:35 jcamins fabio_t: search by fingerprint?
14:35 fabio_t huh. this is sad to learn... I was hoping to enable "search by fingerprint"
14:34 * oleonard is happy to be able to buy lettuce year-round, thank you science.
14:33 jcamins oleonard: yeah, I will learn many interesting things to do with greens and parsnips.
14:33 jcamins Nine times out of ten, it will end badly.
14:33 jcamins What I'm saying is Don't Edit The Zebra Configuration.
14:33 libsysguy ^^ sadly
14:32 jcamins fabio_t: there isn't another way to edit the Zebra configuration.
14:32 fabio_t Koha version is 3.06.04.000
14:32 fabio_t jcamins: I didn't know there was another way to edit Zebra configuration
14:31 jcamins Which version of Koha 3.6?
14:31 wizzyrea brb
14:31 fabio_t Koha 3.6 packages
14:30 jcamins *running
14:30 jcamins What version are you?
14:30 oleonard jcamins: I hear you have to suffer through long stretches of greens and parsnips
14:30 jcamins You should not be editing the Zebra configuration files by hand.
14:30 fabio_t wizzyrea: yeah, it's on
14:30 wizzyrea fabio_t: do you have "biblioaddsauthorities" on?
14:30 jcamins fabio_t: that means you don't have any authority records.
14:30 fabio_t there are no records in auth_header though
14:30 * wizzyrea considered doing that
14:30 jcamins Speaking of produce, we joined a CSA this year! :D
14:29 oleonard What is this the produce department?
14:29 fabio_t I did sudo koha-rebuild-zebra -f
14:29 libsysguy oleonard there is some pinching and poking i believe
14:29 fabio_t even after the creation of some biblio records
14:29 wizzyrea hehe
14:29 * oleonard doesn't know the next step in the jinx procedure.
14:29 libsysguy reindex with -a?
14:29 jcamins fabio_t: why are you editing record.abs, ccl.properties and bib1.att?
14:29 fabio_t and auth_header is empty
14:28 jcamins Thanks.
14:28 wizzyrea mmmpf!
14:28 fabio_t I can't search authorities
14:28 oleonard jinx
14:28 oleonard jcamins: schuster works for Plano-ISD
14:28 wizzyrea jcamins - schuster works for plano ISD
14:28 fabio_t jcamins: sorry, I wasn't that clear
14:28 * wizzyrea trained him well
14:27 libsysguy heh good bot
14:27 wahanui "What are you trying to do?" "What is the goal?" or "What problem are you experiencing?"
14:27 jcamins the first question?
14:27 fabio_t am I missing something related to authorities configuration?
14:27 jcamins fabio_t: what are you doing?
14:26 fabio_t I've edited record.abs, ccl.properties and bib1.att, and restarted my zebra instance after that
14:26 jcamins What school system does schuster work for?
14:24 jcamins Yeah, it's always done the latter, and it's always annoyed me.
14:24 oleonard As far as I know it's been doing these things for ages, but worked better at one time.
14:23 oleonard And I thought it wasn't intended to change the title you were currently viewing
14:23 jcamins oleonard: has it always done that?
14:23 oleonard It browses back and forward by strange increments
14:22 jcamins oleonard: what's wrong with it now?
14:21 oleonard We really ought to fix the shelf browser in the OPAC.
14:14 libsysguy touche` datadoctor
14:14 libsysguy [off] /me apologizes and runs
14:13 druthb [off] libsysguy: don't make me get the stick out, talkin' like that.
14:13 datadoctor ;)
14:13 datadoctor Are we talking cardinal or ordinal canonicals? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ordinal_collapsing_function
14:12 libsysguy [off] man where is mbalmer when all this database nerd talk is going on
14:11 libsysguy may thee never forget to compute thy canonical cover
14:10 datadoctor :)
14:10 libsysguy datadoctor: my your tables be normalized
14:10 datadoctor libsysguy: May your data unravel and deduplicate!
14:09 datadoctor g'day!
14:06 fabio_t Hi everybody!
13:58 * libsysguy is working like druthb today and hacking away at some horribly formatted data
13:58 * druthb just got back from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_University_of_Madaba
13:58 libsysguy o/ druthb
13:57 druthb hi, #koha.
13:30 oleonard 66 obsolete images removed!
13:30 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8108 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Remove unused images from the OPAC
13:30 oleonard Bug 8108
12:36 kf oleonard++ paul_p++ jcamins++ rain--
12:27 * oleonard is preparing a patch to remove obsolete image files, many of which were only called by sanop.css
12:26 paul_p oleonard the blue.css in staff interface can also be removed I think
12:26 paul_p (the blue.css in staff interface can also be removed I think)
12:26 oleonard Thanks
12:26 paul_p oleonard it can be removed
12:25 oleonard paul_p: I notice sanop.css in the OPAC hasn't been touched in years. Do you know if it can be removed?
12:24 jcamins Thanks.
12:24 paul_p hi oleonard
12:24 oleonard Hi everyone
12:24 paul_p (yes, sandbox2.sql.gz)
12:24 paul_p jcamins the large one ;-)
12:24 jcamins paul_p: UNIMARC data = sandbox2?
12:21 jcamins Yay!
12:20 mtj hiya paul
12:20 paul_p jcamins = http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=contrib/global.git;a=summary
12:20 mtj oh stop, your'e just teasing me now :;P
12:20 paul_p done
12:20 jcamins paul_p++
12:20 jcamins Woohoo!
12:20 paul_p jcamins patch with sandbox (including unimarc database) being pushed...
12:19 jcamins And L1 caches.
12:19 mtj nice, you see a bigger picture than me :)
12:19 jcamins And the ability to set up a mirror cache.
12:19 jcamins And cache statistics.
12:19 mtj CHI has a nice useful benchmark.script too - i like that
12:18 jcamins Ideally we will use it for *all* caches eventually, even variable caches.
12:17 jcamins It replaces Cache::Cache.
12:17 jcamins Yeah.
12:17 mtj oops, DBI not DB :)
12:17 mtj ....CHI looks to be the DB-type module for all things caching?
12:16 jcamins mtj: I'm pretty proud of it.
12:15 mtj jcamins: i like your CHI patch :)
11:38 jcamins_away Apparently it is now morning. Myshkin is demanding breakfast.
11:36 jcamins_away paul_p: but don't read the commit message until you've had a chance to upload the UNIMARC dataset. ;)
11:36 jcamins_away kf: sorry!
11:36 kf jcamins_away: don't distracthim! :)
11:35 jcamins_away It doesn't require your attention at all, I just thought you might want to look at the commit message. :)
11:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8092 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Koha should use CHI caching framework
11:34 jcamins_away paul_p: incidentally, you might like bug 8092.
11:34 kf I think this would be really neat and give us time to develop some other new nice things based on it for 3.10
11:34 kf for UNIMARC and MARC21
11:34 kf both together would enable full dom indexing support
11:34 paul_p it's on my list... as many many things ... but will try to work on it ASAP
11:33 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7421 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, frederic, Needs Signoff , UNIMARC authorities DOM indexing mode
11:33 kf but there is also bug 7421
11:33 jcamins_away paul_p: yes please!
11:33 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7818 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Signed Off , support DOM mode for Zebra indexing of bibliographic records
11:33 wahanui i think bug 7818 is waiting for my QA. Should be pretty painless, as it works a charm.
11:33 kf bug 7818
11:33 kf the bug is 7818
11:32 kf paul_p: I am really keen on seeing dom indexing go in, but we miss a signoff for a unimarc follow up - is there a chance someone at biblibre could take a look?
11:30 paul_p jcamins_away haven't tested again since last time. I can try now...
11:29 jcamins_away Were you able to push to contrib/global?
11:28 kf hi paul_p
11:27 paul_p good morning jcamins_away
11:27 jcamins_away paul_p: good afternoon.
11:13 huginn kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 6.6Â°C (1:09 PM CEST on May 16, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 3.0Â°C. Windchill: 7.0Â°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Rising).
11:13 kf @wunder Konstanz
11:13 * kf waves
10:30 druthb The RFID gadget... is less than 100% successful.
10:30 jcamins_away Cool!
10:30 druthb (like there was any doubt!)
10:29 * druthb is at the American University in Madaba, testing an RFID gadget. Koha's SIP is working very nicely.
10:28 druthb o/
08:24 rangi evening
07:23 kf hi samuel
07:21 samuel hi everybody :-)
07:20 kf a
07:20 kf hi #koh
07:04 francharb good morning
07:02 Oak :)
07:02 julian_m Hi Oak :)
07:02 Oak Bonjour alex_a, reiveune, julian_m
07:00 julian_m hello
06:58 reiveune bonjour
06:48 cait bbl
06:38 huginn cait: The operation succeeded.
06:38 cait @later tell slef wrote you a mail and did some drafts - we have a holiday here tomorrow, so send me information and I will finish the work :)
06:36 cait alex_a: only about 3 weeks now!
06:36 cait bonjour alex_a :)
06:36 cait vikas: or you can send a mail to the list, the irc chat is not so good for such questions
06:35 cait vikas: you can check if there is a company or support provider near you
06:35 wahanui support is probably found at http://koha-community.org/support/
06:35 cait support?
06:35 cait supportÃŸ
06:33 vikas ??
06:26 alex_a bonjour
06:17 vikas Right now we are new on koha !! whether some one is there in pune or mumbai for Koha Training !!
06:10 Oak and did that: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Commands_provided_by_the_Debian_packages#koha-email-enable
06:09 vikas yes !!
06:09 Oak did you use Debian packages?
06:08 vikas But i have some issues Like how to setup mail server !!
06:08 Oak cool.
06:07 Oak hmm
06:07 vikas I just installed Koha in my college !!
06:07 vikas very hot !!
06:07 Oak how is weather in Pune?
06:06 Oak :)
06:06 Oak okay !!
06:06 vikas fine !!
06:06 Oak good. how are you?
06:05 vikas how r u oak !
06:05 Oak hi vikas
06:05 vikas hi !!
05:49 druthb kia ora, #koha!
05:48 druthb o/
05:06 cait hi Oak :)
05:02 Oak hello cait :)
05:02 Oak kia ora #koha
04:46 cait hi #koha
04:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8041 minor, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Stable , in admin search, items can be lost and for loan
04:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8001 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Pushed to Stable , Add some styling to the tags to allow them to be distinctive
04:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7722 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Stable , Insidious problem with searching
04:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8084 normal, P2, ---, koha.sekjal, Pushed to Stable , Suspend Until not set on by suspend button
04:16 jenkins_koha * stephane.delaune: Bug 8041: lost items are no longer available in search
04:16 jenkins_koha * robin: Bug 8001: [SIGNED-OFF] improve styling potential of the tag list
04:16 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 7722 - Insidious problem with searching
04:16 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 8084: Follow fix for 7641 - Suspend Until not set on by suspend button.
04:16 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #16: SUCCESS in 52 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/16/
03:24 jenkins_koha Starting build #16 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
03:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7368 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Stable , General staff client typo omnibus
03:24 jenkins_koha m.de.rooy: Bug 7368 typo: MARC -> Card
03:24 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #15: SUCCESS in 53 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/15/
02:48 BobB hi rangi
02:47 rangi hi BobB
02:31 jenkins_koha Starting build #15 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
01:45 eythian later
01:45 * jcamins_away toddles off to get some sleep.
01:44 jcamins_away Thanks.
01:44 eythian But, it's a good idea to have it available, so I'll definitely try to set it up.
01:43 jcamins_away eythian: true, a lot of us roll our own.
01:43 eythian yeah, though I've been using the current method for a while and no one seems to have noticed/minded :)
01:41 jcamins_away I guess perhaps as a stopgap I should make unofficial packages available at debian.cpbibliography.com or something like that.
01:39 jcamins_away Woohoo!
01:39 eythian I might have a go setting that up at the hackfest or something.
01:39 jcamins_away eythian++
01:39 eythian yeah
01:39 jcamins_away And if someone wanted to switch to 3.8, they could change their sources to stable.
01:38 jcamins_away Yeah, that's what I'd like.
01:38 eythian one way that might work is a pocket called "oldstable" that tracks the oldest still current version, so only switches to 3.8 when 3.6 is EOL...
01:37 eythian (i.e. everyone's system would want them to just upgrade to the latest version)
01:37 eythian I'd need to come up with a method to do that, tracking multiple version streams is tricky.
01:37 jcamins_away Now I understand your message. :)
01:36 jcamins_away Ohhh.
01:36 jcamins_away I'm talking about 3.6... well, 3.6.6, because I'm not going to have figured it out by 3.6.5.
01:36 eythian I currently don't build older versions of the stable line.
01:36 jcamins_away For future 3.6.x packages.
01:36 eythian I think they will just get removed when the next update is pushed.
01:36 jcamins_away To save you the trouble.
01:35 eythian jcamins_away: to what end?
01:35 jcamins_away eythian: do you want me to upload the 3.6.x packages?