Time  Nick         Message
00:53 jan2018500   Good morning
00:56 Judit        morning
00:58 jan2018500   I have problem with my KOHA...every time i try to save my catalog.. I always > committed like this error....Software error: > > Tag "" is not a valid tag. at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Biblio.pm line 2170
00:59 jan2018500   hello judit:)
00:59 jan2018500   can u help me people about my KOHA problem
01:02 Judit        is this something like this: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8003
01:02 huginn       04Bug 8003: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Tag "" is not a valid tag. at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Biblio.pm line 2045
01:21 jan2018500   would u pls help me how can i solved this software error
01:21 jan2018500   Software error: > > Tag "" is not a valid tag. at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Biblio.pm line 2170
01:30 jan2018500   huginn hi:)
01:30 huginn       jan2018500: downloading the Perl source
01:51 jan2018500   I have problem with my KOHA...every time i try to save my catalog.. I always > committed like this error....Software error: > > Tag "" is not a valid tag. at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Biblio.pm line 2170
02:02 eythian      liw: is there a single page version of gtdfh around?
02:07 eythian      liw: nm, found the epub version
02:10 chilts       gtdfh? what's the fh? (I know the gtd)
02:10 chilts       ah, for hackers :)
02:10 chilts       found the page - http://gtdfh.branchable.com/
02:15 * ibeardslee has been starting to apply bits
02:20 * eythian    has added it to his epub collection to be read when I get the chance.
02:28 * ibeardslee wuves his nook color
02:36 * eythian    has a real android tablet for reading on. Or an ebook reader.
02:36 eythian      and a third that is both...
02:37 Judit        and do you have time to read?:)
03:12 chris_n      @later tell jcamins added more work on QOTD editor
03:12 huginn       chris_n: The operation succeeded.
03:12 chris_n      tnx huginn
04:57 cait         good morning #koha
05:08 fredericd    morning
05:32 cait         hi fredericd :)
06:20 alex_a1      bonjour
06:22 magnuse      kia ora #koha!
06:27 cait         hi alex_a1 and magnuse :)
06:28 magnuse      g`morgen cait
06:29 cait         hi magnuse
06:29 cait         seeing your mail to the list - what#s the problem?
06:30 cait         I think perhaps you could download them and run perl translate update
06:30 magnuse      well, the nb-NO files are not updated with the last comits to the help pages i think?
06:30 cait         and reupload them
06:30 cait         that's what I did
06:30 cait         for the german files
06:30 magnuse      ah, of course
06:30 cait         I think you should have permissions to do so
06:31 magnuse      wow, why did i not think of that?
06:31 cait         you can download a zip file first - as backup
06:31 magnuse      yeah, i can upload and overwrite
06:31 marcelr      hi koha
06:31 cait         hi marcelr :)
06:32 cait         magnuse: I have the same problem right now I think
06:32 marcelr      hi cait
06:32 cait         I want to create files for vietnamese
06:32 cait         not sure where to start them from
06:32 cait         perhaps master too?
06:32 cait         they will get updated to 3.8.1 then soon - but will be less double work
06:32 cait         hm.
06:33 cait         yeah I think I will do that
06:33 fredericd    cait: Yes, you can do that for one language!
06:33 fredericd    Base your work on 3.8.x branch, not master
06:34 cait         fredericd: trying to update pootle to have vietnamese
06:34 cait         fredericd: oh right - I will do that!
06:34 cait         another question - do you know the right language code for vietnamese?
06:34 cait         I think in pootle it's vi - I see we have some older files for vi-VN in koha
06:34 fredericd    Otherwise, for other languages, help file strings inclusion will be done for ALL languages at next string freeze
06:35 fredericd    But first class Koha citizens, like magnuse, can do it by themself, and know how to do it...
06:36 magnuse      yay!
06:36 cait         fredericd: how to find the right language code for koha?
06:36 cait         still looking for vietnamese but not sure if vi-VN is right
06:36 magnuse      yeah, just need a little reminder every now and then ;-)
06:38 fredericd    vi-VN already exists in misc/translator/po: so just use it
06:38 fredericd    for a new language, you have to choose a code, and find a equivalence in Pootle languages table
06:38 cait         ok
06:38 fredericd    language codes beeing different in Koha and Pootle
06:38 cait         thx!
06:39 cait         yeah, I saw that
06:39 cait         so was not sure how to proceed
06:39 fredericd    I have such a equivalence in a script which is required to update all language in batch
06:39 fredericd    here: http://git.tamil.fr/?p=tkoha;a=blob;f=bin/koha-pootle;h=3ddfd52b34502df819778ed163779165df783c7b;hb=HEAD
06:40 cait         ah ok
06:40 fredericd    So if you add a new language, don't foreget to send me a note with the new equivalence
06:40 cait         so we have to addd vietnamese there
06:40 cait         ok :)
06:40 cait         now I wanted to upload the first file - is there a way to avoid adding all translations as suggestoins?
06:40 cait         forget it... was not logged in
06:41 fredericd    yes: vi-VN = vi
06:42 reiveune     hello
06:42 wahanui      hola, reiveune
06:42 cait         interesting
06:43 cait         fredericd: it happened again
06:43 cait         the pref file for vietnamese has russian ...
06:43 fredericd    haye
06:43 cait         http://translate.koha-community.org/vi/38/translate.html?matchnames=endwhitespace
06:44 fredericd    I can see it
06:44 fredericd    how was the file you uploaded?
06:44 cait         checking
06:45 fredericd    It contains already Russian in Git repo
06:45 fredericd    so Pootle is not the culprit
06:46 cait         I confirm
06:46 cait         the 2 strings are already there in my file
06:46 cait         I will delete the string from pootle
06:47 cait         fredericd: do you want a reminder mail to change the file with the language mapping? :)
06:47 fredericd    I've done it, thanks
06:48 cait         ok :)
06:48 cait         work time - bbl
06:59 julian_m     hi!
07:10 gaetan_B     hello :)
07:27 kf           hi #koha
07:54 paul_p       hello world.
07:54 marcelr      hi paul_p
07:54 paul_p       today, i'm at a barcamp in Paris about "business model of free software companies"
07:55 paul_p       (http://wiki.april.org/w/April_entreprise_Camp_du_3_mai_2012)
07:56 marcelr      that seems to be french ;)
07:58 magnuse      paul_p: giving a talk or listening to others?
07:59 * kf         waves
08:14 * mtj        moos to the herd
08:15 * magnuse    moos back
08:35 paul_p       magnuse = in a barcamp, everybody is speaking ;-)
08:43 magnuse      paul_p: of course. cool!
08:45 Amit_Gupta   bug 7970
08:45 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7970 major, P1 - high, ---, amit.gupta, Needs Signoff , Allow OPAC holds per library policy without default rule
09:15 * kf         waves again
09:22 * magnuse    waves
09:25 Guest398     we are testing koha 3.8 and realised that while using acquisitions even though acq framework is created and creating item selected while receiving the book it does not allow to add any items
09:26 Guest398     below item heading it does not show any thing and if creating item while sending PO it does not allow to add quantity of books
09:26 kf           check your system preferences
09:26 kf           AcqCreateItem
09:27 kf           it controls when items can be added in the acq process
09:27 kf           and you also might want to check if your acq framework is set up with correct 952 field
09:29 Guest398     i did that
09:29 Guest398     and in system preferences i have selected add item while receiving the order
09:30 Guest398     but new 3.8 does not give option to add item while receiving the order
09:30 Guest398     i have created acq framework
21:12 rangi        test
21:13 schuster     no thanks
21:13 schuster     Wizzyrea you hear?
21:13 schuster     or here...
21:13 cait         rangi: test test
21:13 wizzyrea     i am hear, and I hear you
21:13 wizzyrea     wait. that came out wrong.
21:13 wizzyrea     i am here, and I hear you. there, that's better.
21:13 wizzyrea     sup?
21:14 rangi        http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/koha/2012-05-03#i_962612 looks like its working again
21:14 schuster     When do you plan on upgrading to 3.8 or have you?
21:14 wizzyrea     ow, rangi, feedback
21:14 wizzyrea     j/k
21:14 wizzyrea     ;)
21:14 wizzyrea     we will probably go to 3.8 in august-ish, 3.8.4 or 3.8.5
21:14 * wizzyrea   won't be doing 3.8.0
21:14 cait         :)
21:15 bag          wizzyrea: should go sooner than that - the suspense of waiting - drives on crazy
21:15 schuster     Yeah me either, but we are going live 3.6 early June so will have to watch for release updates.  Doing it over the summer is SOOO much easier.
21:15 bag          s/on/one
21:15 wizzyrea     no sir
21:15 * wizzyrea   is patient
21:16 cait         wizzyrea: I understand you :)
21:16 schuster     Suspense for new features yes, but pain of bleeding edge can be painful
21:16 bag          no need to be - cause 3.8 kicks arse
21:16 rangi        schuster: 3.6.5 is out may 23, 3.8.1 may 22
21:16 cait         we are very happy 3.6.3 users now
21:16 wizzyrea     bag - seriously?
21:16 wizzyrea     have you looked at it in chrome?
21:16 schuster     Oh great thanks rangi that might be a great opportunity.
21:16 rangi        speaking as RMaint, i wouldnt go to 3.8 until 3.8.1 at least .. maybe 3.8.2
21:16 bag          wizzyrea: just having my fun
21:17 wizzyrea     ;)
21:17 * wizzyrea   still doesn't recommend 3.8.0
21:22 schuster     I learned a long time ago never to take the first iteration of a release unless you have a support company that will have programmers ready at 7 am to fix what ever is broken...  of course that was with a proprietary company...
21:23 wizzyrea     rangi have there been many patches for 3.8.1?
21:23 wizzyrea     well koha is a lot better in that regard, but still don't take a .0 release.
21:23 schuster     I'm not saying anything bad about open source we love this software!!!  Just a fact of life with upgrades...  Someone though has to take the plunge first to find the problems.
21:23 schuster     Then the rest of us owe them a drink!
21:24 cait         I think once a .0 is out you can start serious testing
21:24 cait         and try finding the bad bugs
21:25 cait         you will always miss something bevore it stops moving fast
21:25 rangi        wizzyrea: im waiting on paul to push them
21:25 rangi        then i can cherry-pick
21:25 rangi        so far, just the one since release
21:26 rangi        http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/3.8.x
21:27 wizzyrea     *nod*
21:29 schuster     Wow pretty stable...  I'm interested in wizzyrea's branch notice per branch...  Could solve a lot of my problems or close to them with overdues.
21:29 wizzyrea     new, paul's been on vacation
21:29 rangi        s/stable/static/
21:29 wizzyrea     naw*
21:29 schuster     Thanks all for everything you do for libraries...  Have a great evening!
21:38 jcamins      rangi: 3.6.5 will *hopefully* be out May 23.
21:38 rangi        :)
21:42 jcamins      I'm thinking of writing web-based release management tools.
21:42 wizzyrea     define that
21:44 jcamins      wizzyrea: rather than using a command line, I think I might use a web browser to access them.
21:44 wizzyrea     interesting
21:44 jcamins      I am faced with the problem that the tools I have don't really lend themselves to a testing branch... at all.
21:46 jcamins      Because as they work right now, I have to go through the cherrypick process twice.
21:47 jcamins      And I need more information in order to differentiate between "definitely stable," "probably stable," "definitely not stable even though I thought it was," and "irrelevant."
21:49 jcamins      What I really want is a tool that gives me a view of Master, and suggests "here are the things that bugzilla says are bugfixes," and I can then choose whether I agree, disagree, etc.
21:50 jcamins      If I knew anything about ncurses, that'd be the most logical thing to work with, but I don't, and don't care to.
21:50 jcamins      So, time for my swiss army chainsaw, T::T.
21:52 jcamins      :)
22:09 jcamins      If I didn't have a cat on my lap, I'd go start baking cinnamon bread.
22:10 jcamins      But I do have a cat on my lap, so I will modify chris_n's release tools to use T::T.
22:13 jcamins      @quote search typo
22:13 huginn       jcamins: 2 found: #135: "rangi: $tempate->{VARS}->{'LoginBranchname'} -..." and #82: "<pianohack> nengard: If you were using a..."
22:14 cait         jcamins: myshkin? :)
22:15 jcamins      cait: yup.
22:15 cait         :)
23:30 chris_n      eythian: lol
23:45 chris_n      does anyone else find that vim occasionally looses its way wtih syntax highlighting when scrolling down a file?
23:45 jcamins      chris_n: yup.
23:49 jcamins      Is there any way to get a list of the files touched by a given commit, easily?
23:49 jcamins      Figured it out.
23:57 * jcamins    decides the capitalization fixes are not going into 3.6.x.