Time  Nick           Message
03:45 Amit_Gupta     heya bag
05:10 Amit_Gupta     heya federicd around?
06:13 Amit_Gupta     chris   around?
07:59 francharb      hello #koha
07:59 rangi          hi francharb
08:11 francharb      0/ rangi cait
08:11 cait           hi francharb
08:11 cait           hi rangi
08:15 rangi          hi cait
10:30 Oak            kia ora #koha
10:30 Oak            hello cait :)
10:32 cait           hi Oak
12:12 * oleonard     suppresses a yawn
12:14 * cait         waves at oleonard
12:19 * oleonard     tries to remember what he was doing yesterday
12:19 cait           hm
12:20 cait           replacing sth with jquery?
12:21 oleonard       That's a safe bet :)
13:06 * chris_n      rubs his eyes and blinks
13:07 chris_n        g'morning cait, oleonard
13:07 cait           good morning
13:53 wizzyrea       wow, really quiet night
13:53 wizzyrea       lots of "hi"
13:55 cait           hi wizzyrea
14:08 magnuse        hi wizzyrea
14:31 slef           hi wizzyrea
14:31 wizzyrea       hey slef :)
14:31 wizzyrea       and magnuse :)
14:39 Oak            hello my hearties
14:41 oleonard       I think you mean "Ahoy me hearties" Oak
14:41 Oak            :) ah yes
14:43 wizzyrea       hehe, ahoy.
14:49 * sekjal       has this sudden urge to break into song... but resists
14:50 wizzyrea       !
14:50 wizzyrea       what song?
14:50 wahanui        song is somewhat infectious.  The video is a lot of vintage baseball footage, a baseball trivia geek's dream come true.
14:50 sekjal         wizzyrea:  Reise, Reise by Rammstein :/
14:50 wizzyrea       hmm.
14:50 * wizzyrea     suspects that is not happy singing.
14:51 sekjal         for variable definitions of "happy", sure
14:54 francharb      sekjal, check out this : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0DXCuKfqRw&feature=relmfu
14:55 francharb      i love kids playing with their siblings at home and covering songs on youtube video!
14:55 sekjal         lulz
14:56 francharb      they play a yardbirds song which is good actually ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oK8NJTpYzyg&feature=youtu.be
14:58 francharb      i should dedicate a blog for all those videos i found on youtube...
15:22 slef           @query bulk modification SQL
15:23 huginn         slef: No results for "bulk modification SQL."
15:23 slef           @query bulk SQL
15:23 huginn         slef: No results for "bulk SQL."
15:23 slef           @query batch SQL
15:23 huginn         slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6946 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha.sekjal, NEW , Import Batches _update_batch_record_counts has inefficient SQL
15:23 slef           huginn: is that all?
15:23 huginn         slef: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
15:23 jcamins_away   slef: what are you looking for?
15:24 slef           jcamins: I thought I remembered a batch item or bibilo editor enh that allowed SQL
15:25 jcamins        slef: I don't recall that.
15:26 slef           Of course, I was looking for it for Subject: Re: [Koha-devel] SQL reports [error]
15:45 wizzyrea       I think the guy should go ahead and do whetever he wants to to his local code.
15:46 wizzyrea       nmp if he allows his catalogers to drop table biblio;
15:46 * wizzyrea     goes all tough love on his tooshie.
15:48 oleonard       I think that's the consensus isn't it?
15:48 jcamins        Yup.
15:49 * oleonard     does think it would be nice to be able to pipe results of reports to batch modifications (i.e. pass a set of barcodes)
15:51 wizzyrea       yes, that would be cool.
15:51 sekjal         oooh, that'd be interesting to hack on...
15:52 sekjal         make it flexible enough to handle various keys (itemnumber, barcode, biblionumber, borrowernumber, patron barcode, etc)
15:53 wizzyrea       maybe just start with barcode/itemnumber?
15:53 wizzyrea       :)
16:03 jcamins        fredericd: there's a UNIMARC patch on bug 7818 with your name on it. :)
16:03 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7818 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Signed Off , support DOM mode for Zebra indexing of bibliographic records
16:03 jcamins        (for sign-off)
16:42 oleonard       chris_n around?
16:42 chris_n        full of lunch, but still slightly coherent
16:42 chris_n        did you see the datatables editor plugin?
16:43 oleonard       I'm testing Bug 7977 and wondering about the "last displayed" column
16:43 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7977 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, Needs Signoff , Add a "Quote-of-the-day" feature to the OPAC homepage
16:43 oleonard       ..which I thought wasn't working but now I see it is. Never mind :)
16:44 chris_n        the timestamps will all be zero until they are selected for display
16:44 chris_n        too bad allan decided to charge licensing fees for the use of the editor plugin
16:45 oleonard       chris_n: ?
16:45 chris_n        http://editor.datatables.net/
16:45 chris_n        it super-slick
16:45 chris_n        but is only oss license for total non-profit use
16:46 * chris_n      had very similar things in mind for table based editing in koha
16:47 jcamins        chris_n: oh no! After all that work we can't use the editor you did?
16:48 chris_n        jcamins: not so... this is a plugin for datatables
16:48 chris_n        datatables core uses a compatible license
16:49 chris_n        but the editor plugin referenced above would not be compatible (in my reading)
16:49 chris_n        so in the long run, we roll our own
16:49 jcamins        I see.
16:50 chris_n        oleonard: be aware that I'm working on a bug in the QOTD editor which causes single added quotes not to immediately display
16:54 oleonard       chris_n My primary complaint is you left out all of George W. Bush's best quotes :P
16:57 * chris_n      seems to recall some questions regarding the authenticity of the cherry tree incident ;-)
16:57 chris_n        but file a bug for it... who knows? maybe we can add it in :)
16:57 chris_n        opps
16:58 chris_n        way too much lunch
16:58 chris_n        "George W. Bush"
16:58 chris_n        oleonard: well, just hit the add-a-quote button and have at it
17:37 nengard        good morning all - i'm in a training in OR - say hi to the new Koha community members
17:39 oleonard       Hi OR!
17:39 cait           hi :)
17:41 francharb      0/ all ;)
17:42 nengard        okay back to work :)
18:05 * chris_n      goes for the smoker
18:17 oleonard       Another spontaneous Firefox crash. Yay version 12.
18:18 cait           :(
18:25 chris_n        FF--
18:45 oleonard       FF, the worst browser in the world except for all the others.
18:48 cait           oleonard: we should write our own :)
18:48 oleonard       Oh yeah, just a little side project to working on Koha? :P
18:49 cait           hm
18:49 cait           we could make koha a browser
18:49 cait           it woul be absolutely standard compliant of course
18:49 cait           ? :)
18:50 datadoctor     Love how FF is positioning itself as the anti-browser by promoting the Collusion plugin
18:50 datadoctor     Collusion displays the sources of your cookies.
18:51 oleonard       If they want to be serious about it they'd give us tabs which could be sandboxed from each other
18:51 datadoctor     I love Chrome too, but Firefox has the community and the cool plug-ins.
18:52 datadoctor     There's always Midori, if you like the real open source...
18:53 datadoctor     I like the sandbox idea - hmm, hope to see that soon.
18:53 oleonard       I think they might be working on it.
18:55 chris_n        chrome is better than FF imho
18:55 chris_n        why can't code just work as soon as I finish typing it?
18:56 rangi          only if you don't care about privacy (chrome being better)
18:56 oleonard       Better performance maybe chris_n. Not better tools or better for my paranoia.
18:56 rangi          exactly
18:56 chris_n        TOR is the answer to all privacy concerns :-)
18:56 rangi          not with chrome
18:56 rangi          it still leaks data to google
18:57 chris_n        well, for that matter we'd better stop using unencrypted email
18:57 * oleonard     feels he should if he wants to use GMail
18:57 chris_n        and credit cards
18:57 rangi          i have a soft spot for mozilla, because they seem to be the only ones working on things like browserid, and they essentially freed the web
18:58 rangi          chris_n: those are active choices, i can choose to encrypt my mail or not, with chrome i cant choose not to tell google what sites im visiting
18:58 chris_n        I like mozilla as well, just not the fact that their browser crashes regularly
18:58 rangi          i find 10 rock solid on linux, i havent had a crash yet
18:59 rangi          cant speak for windows or anything of course
18:59 chris_n        the thing crashes regularly on Ubuntu.. at least the last few versions
18:59 rangi          weird, not on mine
19:00 rangi          i dont run gnome tho, so that could be why
19:00 chris_n        kde?
19:00 rangi          lxde and xmonad
19:01 rangi          tiling window managers ftw :)
19:01 rangi          @wunder christchurch nz
19:01 huginn         rangi: The current temperature in Christchurch, New Zealand is 7.0°C (6:00 AM NZST on May 02, 2012). Conditions: Rain Showers. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.42 in 1030 hPa (Steady).
19:01 rangi          @wunder nzwn
19:01 huginn         rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 8.0°C (6:00 AM NZST on May 02, 2012). Conditions: Heavy Rain Showers. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Rising).
19:02 rangi          doesnt look like i can escape the rain today
19:02 rangi          ok, now ive ranted about freedom as is my weekly want
19:02 rangi          ill go finish packing and go to the airport :)
19:02 rangi          cyas later
19:02 * oleonard     wonders where rangi is going
19:03 rangi          christchurch today, bucklame tomorrow
19:03 * rangi        wanders off
19:04 chris_n        lxde sounds cool
19:04 oleonard       safe travels rangi
19:05 * oleonard     thinks he tried lxde once but can't remember what he didn't like about it
19:05 oleonard       Some interface thing I'm sure.
19:23 * jcamins_away wanders back
19:25 oleonard       You missed the browser wars jcamins. The outcome was inconclusive.
19:27 jcamins        oleonard: excellent, we can have a sequel once Luke Skywalker grows up!
19:27 chris_n        oleonard: I'll fix the points you mention tomorrow :-)
19:27 oleonard       Thanks chris_n. I hope all that was clear and didn't sound petty
19:28 chris_n        no, I was hoping you would point up things of that nature
19:29 * chris_n      is becoming a UI designer only with great reluctance :)
19:42 * jcamins      decides to poke at 3.6.x.
19:42 cait           jcamins++
19:42 cait           :)
19:44 jcamins        Okay, I guess step 1 is to create a 3.6-testing branch.
19:46 jcamins        Done.
19:46 jcamins        Step 2: find the instructions I wrote down for using chris_n's scripts.
19:47 jcamins        chris_n: so it's better to use get_commits?
19:47 jcamins        Or get_bugs?
19:48 * cait         cheers jcamins on
19:48 cait           but don't knw about the scripts
19:48 jcamins        Or do I use both?
19:49 chris_n        jcamins: one is for auto-cherry-picking, the other is for release notes
19:49 jcamins        Ohhh.
19:49 jcamins        Right.
19:49 jcamins        Thanks.
19:49 chris_n        ymmv
19:49 chris_n        by a wide margin :-)
19:50 jcamins        Do you use libgit-pure-perl or libgit-wrapper-perl?
19:51 jcamins        Wait, I misread the error.
19:52 * jcamins      returns to step 0.
19:53 jcamins        (check out new repository directly from git.k-c.org)
19:59 jcamins        65%
20:09 jcamins        Well, get_commits is doing something.
20:10 jcamins        Very busily.
20:12 pastebot       "jcamins" at 24.193.130.86 pasted "chris_n: is this what the output should look like?" (11 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/374
20:15 mtj            very interesting... -> http://yro.slashdot.org/story/12/05/01/1828247/oracle-and-the-end-of-programming-as-we-know-it
20:15 mtj            FOSS vs. lawyers ? :(
20:17 oleonard       Intellectual property law is a hot mess, there's not doubt about it.
20:18 datadoctor     patent wars - the end of civility in internet business - wall up with patents you buy from trolls
20:18 * liw          will start using AGPL 3+ for any APIs he ever makes in the future, if APIs become copyrightable (but they won't be)
20:18 datadoctor     Yes, that's a great public license.
20:19 jcamins        I think I'm doing this wrong.
20:20 datadoctor     Against intellectual monopoly: http://levine.sscnet.ucla.edu/general/intellectual/against.htm
20:20 datadoctor     It's a fun read.
20:22 oleonard       I could have sworn the Acquisitions home page showed a warning if you had no budgets defined, but git says that was removed three years ago?
20:22 oleonard       cait do you remember that?
20:22 oleonard       Or am I remembering it in some other place more recently?
20:23 cait           not the home page
20:23 cait           but when you want to order something
20:23 cait           after creating or before creating a basket
20:23 cait           I think the home page perhaps had one with old acquisitions?
20:23 cait           the new warning was done by robin
20:24 cait           does that make sense?
20:25 oleonard       Yes
20:26 jcamins        Okay, I'll work on this sometime when rangi is around.
20:30 oleonard       See ya later everybuddy
20:32 francharb      i'm going too
20:32 francharb      see ya
20:33 datadoctor     have a great evening / morning!
20:33 jcamins        chris_n: do you have the various txt files for 3.6.x?
20:33 datadoctor     :)
20:34 jcamins        It looks like without them I have to revisit all the decisions you made for 3.6.1-3.6.4.
20:34 chris_n        jcamins: I'll send them along in a bit
20:34 jcamins        chris_n: thanks!
20:35 chris_n        that paste is generally correct
20:35 chris_n        bbl
20:35 jcamins        chris_n: yeah, I didn't understand what the message was about. It's referring to the txt files I don't have. :)
20:50 chris_n        jcamins: check your inbox
20:50 chris_n        place them in the same directory as the script
20:51 chris_n        rerun the script
20:51 chris_n        and try to maintain your sanity ;-)
20:53 jcamins        huginn: thanks!
20:53 huginn         jcamins: I suck
20:53 jcamins        huginn?
20:53 wahanui        i think huginn is a bot too veera, not a person
20:53 jcamins        chris_n: I meant to thank you.
20:53 chris_n        meeting in ~5 hours?
20:54 jcamins        chris_n: wait, really?
20:54 jcamins        Oh. Yes.
20:55 jcamins        I guess I might be there after all.
20:56 * jcamins      read "20:00 UTC+0" before
20:57 chris_n        jcamins: release notes templates for 3.6.x are in the repo @ http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=misc/release_notes/release_notes_3_6_x.tmpl;h=e59ddb8b8709166078acc5c00508f0f752822dd0;hb=refs/tags/v3.06.04
20:58 * chris_n      heads off to trim hooves
20:58 jcamins        Thanks.
20:58 chris_n        maybe the goats will behave better than the jquery did :-P
20:59 gbengaadara    Hello all
21:05 kathryn        hello all from me too
21:05 jcamins        Hello!
21:06 cait           hi kathryn :)
21:07 kathryn        heya jcamins and cait :)
21:07 cait           @wunder Konstanz
21:07 huginn         cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 17.0°C (11:00 PM CEST on May 01, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1014 hPa (Falling).
21:07 jcamins        Bug 5339
21:07 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5339 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , Parcel closing in acq
21:07 kathryn        @wunder wellington nz
21:07 huginn         kathryn: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 9.0°C (9:00 AM NZST on May 02, 2012). Conditions: Rain Showers. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.36 in 1028 hPa (Steady).
21:07 kathryn        doh!
21:07 cait           guess I win :)
21:08 kathryn        oh no there it is  - it's coooold!
21:08 kathryn        yep you win cait
21:08 cait           give it half a year... and it changes again :)
21:09 kathryn        cait, although I travel to work on this ferry http://eastbywest.co.nz/ and there was a rainbow over it this morn
21:09 cait           ok, travelling to work on a ferry with a rainbow... that means you win
21:10 mtj            kathryn:  wow - impressive! :)
21:10 kathryn        yuss!
21:10 kathryn        didn't have my camera sadly
21:12 mtj            y'know what... i reckon we need a 'waiting for qa' status in koha's bugzilla
21:12 cait           mtj: we have
21:12 cait           signed off
21:12 cait           :)
21:13 cait           all that is signed off is waiting for qa :)
21:13 mtj            cait:  not quite...
21:13 cait           persuade me :)
21:13 jcamins        mtj: do you have a counter-example where the problem isn't that the QA-er didn't set the status back to Needs signoff?
21:14 mtj            some 'signed-off' bugs are waiting for qa
21:14 mtj            some 'signed-off' bugs are waiting for a 2nd sign-off
21:14 cait           I think those are very few
21:14 cait           and perhaps they should not be set to signed off then
21:14 jcamins        mtj: anything that's waiting for a second sign-off should be set to "needs signoff."
21:14 cait           yep
21:14 cait           I agree
21:15 mtj            currently, there is no way to distinguish between those 2 types of bugs
21:15 cait           I think they are not 2 type
21:15 cait           s
21:15 cait           I think either it's ready for qa = signed off, or it's waiting for a sign-off
21:15 jcamins        Yes.
21:15 mtj            hmm, well - that would work
21:15 jcamins        If something is waiting for a second signoff, it should still be "needs signoff."
21:16 mtj            yes, ok - that will work  :)
21:16 jcamins        Bah.
21:16 jcamins        *Nothing* will apply.
21:17 cait           :(
21:18 mtj            ok, perhaps i write this discussion as an email to koha-dev mailing-list
21:18 mtj            ... so everyone can discuss and hopefully agree to this :)
21:19 jcamins        mtj: I don't think that's the way to do it.
21:19 jcamins        I think the thing to do is send an e-mail to the devel list reminding everyone that if something requires an additional sign off, it should remain at "needs signoff" so that people will be more likely to actually do it.
21:22 mtj            jcamins:  this topic has already been discussed and agreed?
21:23 jcamins        mtj: I don't see any need for discussion.
21:23 jcamins        mtj: if it's not on needs signoff, those of us who sign off on things won't.
21:23 cait           I think the status is clear
21:23 cait           it's only not clear when something does need another sign off
21:23 cait           someotimes we add follow ups
21:23 jcamins        If you're not going to QA it because it *needs signoff* it should be marked as such.
21:24 cait           so- do we want the first part to be pushed, while the second needs a signoff?
21:24 cait           should go on a separate bug then... but we don't always do
21:24 * cait         feels like she is not making much sense
21:25 mtj            makes sense to me
21:25 mtj            i now understand the process, so i am happy... :)
21:43 * chris_n      thinks a separate "QA status" might be useful
21:43 jcamins        chris_n: but then we need someone to go through and mark every signed off bug as being ready for QA.
21:44 cait           I think perhaps more useful
21:44 chris_n        signed-off could fire a db trigger marking it read for QA
21:44 chris_n        ready, even
21:44 cait           would be to separate the pushed from the resolved status
21:45 cait           chris_n: but what would be the gain then?
21:45 cait           we can't see easily what's been pushed to which version
21:45 chris_n        setting the QA field to "failed" would trigger the status back to "needs sign-off"
21:46 chris_n        the RM is supposed to set the version field accordingly when the patch is pushed
21:46 cait           so you want a separate qa field?
21:46 chris_n        allowing for "accurate" version tracking... in theory
21:46 jcamins        chris_n: oh, you meant a "QA status" not "Needs QA" status.
21:46 jcamins        That makes sense.
21:46 chris_n        what he said ^^
21:46 cait           chris_n: I know, but once it's 3.6 but not pushed to 3.6 yet- can I mark resolved?
21:46 chris_n        no
21:47 cait           so we probably never mark them resolved
21:47 chris_n        not according to the currently accepted workflow
21:47 cait           yeah and that is a problem I think
21:47 cait           and I did it wrong then
21:47 cait           becuse i don't think anyone is testing on 3.6
21:47 cait           or soon 3.8
21:47 * chris_n      agrees with you
21:47 cait           so we will only have a gazillion unresolved bugs in the system :(
21:48 chris_n        on the "no one is testing" part at least
21:48 cait           we don't have enough peopl etesting master
21:48 cait           it's like that
21:48 chris_n        but in reality, if it has passed QA and been pushed and marked for backporting, it should only need minimal testing
21:48 cait           hm
21:48 cait           some things are difficult to test
21:49 chris_n        but jcamins idea of having a "beta" stable branch could help with that
21:49 chris_n        if he is able to push 30 days ahead
21:49 * chris_n      thinks cait did some very good pre-maintenance release testing :-)
21:50 cait           hm?
21:50 jcamins        chris_n: well, yeah, 3.6.5 won't quite live up to my ideal.
21:51 jcamins        But I hope by 3.6.7 to RMaint'ing more or less figured out.
21:51 cait           you will :)
21:51 cait           figure it out I mean
21:57 mtj            so it looks like we need to improve the bug workflow, to handle backporting 'pushed-to-master' bugs to stable and old-stable branches
21:58 jcamins        mtj: yeah. My long-term plan involves a cron job that cherry picks bugfixes to 3.6-testing.
21:58 cait           I am not sure it will work without some manual work
21:59 jcamins        cait: oh, it will certainly require manual work.
21:59 jcamins        But if I have a list of commits that require manual intervention every morning, it'll be a lot easier.
21:59 cait           I am still pondering the resolved problem
21:59 cait           because I really want to get our bug numbers down... not sure how to achieve that
21:59 cait           I can't test on 3 versions!
22:00 cait           perhaps... works in master... pushed way down would be enough to mark resolved?
22:01 jcamins        cait: that's my feeling.
22:03 mtj            hmm... we could even add a new 'backporting' status to help track backporting?
22:04 jcamins        mtj: I'm not sure how much help that would be.
22:05 mtj            well, more help than not having it -  for sure
22:06 jcamins        mtj: I guess I'm not really seeing how having a separate status for backporting would *reduce* the amount of time we need to spend managing bugzilla.
22:07 jcamins        We already have problems because we can't tell if the Version has been set properly.
22:07 jcamins        (and often it hasn't been)
22:07 cait           too many statuses make work harder for wranglers I think
22:07 cait           the lists are less useful
22:08 cait           what I would like to see removed is the workflow settings
22:08 cait           to change something back to new - I have to move through 4 steps
22:08 cait           and every step creates a mail
22:08 jcamins        Yes, that does make sense.
22:08 cait           it's not helpful
22:08 cait           it's a good idea
22:08 cait           but it does not work well
22:11 mtj            cait:  just curious , when/why do you change a bug back to new?
22:11 cait           ok, it was when someone mistakenly set the wrong status
22:11 cait           bug confusion :)
22:12 cait           but there are some quirks
22:12 cait           where you can't go back
22:12 cait           directly
22:12 cait           and I thin it's more confusing than helpful
22:14 mtj            aah, actually i have just clicked to something good....
22:14 bag            @wunder 93109
22:14 huginn         bag: The current temperature in K6LCM-Westside/Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 16.9°C (3:14 PM PDT on May 01, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Falling).
22:14 mtj            there *is* a way currently to track backporting in bugzilla, i think
22:16 mtj            so.. the 3.8 RM would search on bugs that are status='RESOLVED' , version='MASTER', etc....
22:17 jcamins        mtj: yeah, that's what we do now.
22:17 jcamins        The problem is there are already too many opportunities for human error.
22:17 eythian        we clearly need to remove humans from the process.
22:18 mtj            then backport that bug to 3.8, and set the bug-version to 'koha-3.8', with a note saying 'backported to 3.8'...
22:18 jcamins        mtj: right, that's what we're doing now.
22:18 jcamins        eythian: agreed.
22:18 eythian        wahanui: humans
22:18 wahanui        eythian: i'm not following you...
22:18 cait           morning eythian
22:19 mtj            jcamins: ok, so that works perfectly :) now i understand the process....
22:19 eythian        hi cait
22:19 jcamins        mtj: well, no, unfortunately it doesn't work so well. But the principle is sound.
22:21 mtj            jcamins:  i am sure when more people understand the process, it will work better
22:22 jcamins        mtj: from your mouth to reality.
22:24 mtj            hmm, is the process described on the wiki yet?
22:26 * mtj          looks, cant find anything....
22:26 jcamins        mtj: I don't know.
22:26 jcamins        I think so.
22:27 mtj            ok, so i learn't something back there -  i'll drop the topic now... :)
22:29 jcamins        mtj: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Bug-enhancement-patch_Workflow
22:37 eythian        wahanui: humans is <reply>KILL ALL HUMANS|<reply>http://youtu.be/SYmYbkdHCBE
22:37 wahanui        OK, eythian.
22:38 mtj            jcamins:  oooh, thanks for that
22:42 jcamins        humans?
22:42 wahanui        KILL ALL HUMANS
22:42 jcamins        humans?
22:42 wahanui        http://youtu.be/SYmYbkdHCBE
22:42 jcamins        Cool.
22:43 jcamins        I didn't know you could do that.