Time Nick Message
23:31 jcamins We have Google Scholar, not Google Books.
23:31 chris_n on the item page
23:31 chris_n we have an additional search iirc
23:30 jcamins Wait, don't we already have that?
23:30 jcamins I could just use the Search for this title in.
23:30 jcamins Actually, no need for jQuery there.
23:30 jcamins Ooh, yeah.
23:30 chris_n google books
23:30 chris_n internet archive?
23:29 jcamins chris_n: any suggestions for additional nifty links I can jQuery into existence?
23:22 mveron Oh, very late now. Good night everybody!
23:22 mveron jcamins: Project Gutenberg would be nice as well
23:20 jcamins Project Gutenberg.
23:20 chris_n lol
23:20 wahanui rumour has it PG is not universally faster (try running Drupal on it, for example.) Also, MySQL wasn't chosen so much as happened due to critical mass
23:20 chris_n PG?
23:20 jcamins PG just has invalid records.
23:19 jcamins No, it doesn't.
23:18 jcamins Does it?
23:18 jcamins That makes no sense at all.
23:18 * jcamins ponders
23:18 mveron jcamins: Wikipedia - Good idea!
23:18 jcamins I'm having some issues getting it to cooperate both for names with dates *and* names with... wait, names with dates?
23:17 chris_n very nice work
23:17 jcamins Right now I'm working on adding Wikipedia links for authors.
23:16 jcamins chris_n: that'd be hard since it's not in the data. ;)
23:16 chris_n maybe zoom in on the address?
23:15 chris_n jcamins: cool
23:13 jcamins [off] http://demo.cplibraries.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=38834
23:13 chris_n mveron: sorry, that was directed @ jcamins jQuery :)
23:12 chris_n jcamins: where?
23:12 mveron Ah, mistaked
23:11 jcamins See my very cool demo. :)
23:11 jcamins chris_n: yeah, I got it working.
23:11 mveron Don't get it.... ?
23:10 chris_n jcamins: console.log(foo) is your friend
23:09 * mveron Pondering...
23:09 jcamins Right.
23:08 mveron Ok, understood, you mean jQuery things?
23:08 jcamins I meant like what I did with the mapping, and linking out to wikipedia.
23:08 jcamins That's not what I meant.
23:08 jcamins Ah.
23:08 mveron As far as I see they are displayed in the Drop down list only, would be nice to have a page where thy could be displayed in an organized way.
23:07 jcamins How do you mean?
23:06 mveron jcamins: I think there would be some possibilities with lists.
23:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8019 major, P2, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , Preserve language choice between Browser sessions
23:05 mveron Preserve language choice? - Bug 8019 ready for signoff :-)
23:04 jcamins mveron: what other useful enhanced content could be added to the OPAC?
22:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8019 major, P2, ---, veron, ASSIGNED , Preserve language choice between Browser sessions
22:39 * mveron Has to logout from all browser sessions to test solution for Bug 8019
22:35 huginn jcamins: The operation succeeded.
22:35 jcamins @later tell magnuse http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/JQuery_Library#Add_a_link_to_map_the_publisher.27s_location
22:35 jcamins It was getting unwieldy.
22:35 jcamins I also started organizing the jQuery library somewhat.
22:30 mveron Wow
22:24 jcamins [off] For an example: http://demo.cplibraries.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=38834
22:18 jcamins Tolja. :)
22:17 mveron Cool. Really.
22:16 * jcamins adds a slightly less sophisticated map to his demo.
22:16 jcamins ^^ that is cool
22:14 jcamins http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/JQuery_Library#Add_a_link_to_map_the_publisher.27s_location
22:14 jcamins Does anyone want to see something cool?
22:08 wahanui jquery library is found at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/JQuery_Library
22:08 jcamins jquery library?
22:08 wahanui jquery is probably client side, so it doesn't have anything to do with the templating system
22:08 jcamins jquery?
22:08 jcamins jquery wiki?
22:00 mveron but I did not have the impression that expiry date is a security issue
21:59 mveron jcamins: I found some bugs related to automatic language detection and one about insecure use of Cookie for language selection
21:58 jcamins In fact, I feel like that might be a regression of a bug that was fixed before.
21:57 jcamins mveron: yeah, I'm having a lot of trouble coming up with any explanation that makes that into a feature not a bug.
21:57 jcamins How do you get mouseover text on an image?
21:57 mveron jcamins: ...or discuss it. If I select a language, I expect to find it back in the next session. The librarians in our group complained about.
21:56 jcamins mveron: if it is by design, someone will tell you so and close the bug.
21:54 mveron jcamins: I supposed so. Will file it.
21:53 jcamins mveron: that seems like a bug.
21:53 jcamins :D
21:52 jcamins Success!
21:52 mveron Is this by design? If yes, what is the reason for?
21:52 mveron This behaviour is due to sub setlanguagecookie, whre no expiry date is given (-expires => '')
21:52 mveron I wondered why I loose Staff client and Opac language selection between browser sessions. Found out, that the Cookie KohaOpacLanguage expires when the browser is closed.
21:49 wizzyrea also anyone who wants to sign off on that is certainly welcome.
21:46 huginn wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.
21:46 wizzyrea @later tell sekjal bug 7953 ok now?
21:30 magnuse g'night #koha!
21:30 magnuse ouch!
21:25 jcamins Now when you add a subfield, you can't change it in the editor and there's no indication why.
21:24 jcamins Terrible idea.
21:24 jcamins Adding max length to the framework editor?
21:24 jcamins Okay...
21:20 jcamins :)
21:19 jcamins MP.png
21:19 jcamins Ah, perfect.
21:19 wizzyrea actually I'm not sure if the jquery on selfcheck ever made it through qa
21:19 wizzyrea i look forward to that too.
21:18 jcamins Also, does anyone have a teeny tiny icon of a map that's CC licensed?
21:18 jcamins *of
21:18 jcamins Speaking o fixing things, I look forward to paul_p pushing your fixes.
21:18 edveal And it will be fixed! :)
21:17 edveal That was my fear... Thanks!
21:17 wizzyrea in my mind it's fixed :P
21:17 wizzyrea then you're down to modifying the templates
21:17 wizzyrea hehe yea i forgot about that :)
21:09 edveal You would think but can't get jquery to the selfcheck yet.. Someone has a patch to fix that though! :)
21:07 wizzyrea oughta be doable with jquery?
21:06 edveal Anyone know if there is a way to turn the links off on the Koha self-check system? Apparently a user can click on the title link and it takes them to the opac and then they can log off the self-check system.
20:55 sekjal okay, time for rest. have a good weekend, #koha
20:43 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3754 critical, P5 - low, ---, henridamien, ASSIGNED , Language detection doesn't take really care of syspref
20:43 * mveron Playing around with Firefox language settings regarding Bug 3754, has to shut down FF andChatZilla
20:18 jcamins I don't really know how to debug it.
20:18 jcamins I have here an AJAXy thing.
20:17 jcamins Okay, this is a little tricky.
20:17 jcamins Yup.
20:16 cait publication place?
20:14 jcamins :contains
20:14 jcamins Oh, cool.
20:14 jcamins Now if only I could figure out how to specify that I want a 751 with a subfield 4 with the value pup.
20:13 rangi Cya
20:13 cait you too
20:13 sekjal bye, oleonard
20:13 cait bye oleonard
20:13 rangi *nod*
20:13 * oleonard waves
20:13 oleonard Have a good weekend everyone
20:13 sekjal I lean towards tree
20:13 rangi Right
20:13 sekjal tree v. thesaurus
20:13 sekjal rangi: depends on the data structure we want to enforce
20:12 rangi Yep
20:12 jcamins Wow, jQuery makes handling DOM really easy, doesn't it?
20:11 rangi Hmm can a branch have multiple parents?
20:09 jcamins Now to use jQuery to retrieve an XML document and locate a particular piece of data in it.
20:08 jcamins Bah.
20:08 sekjal rangi: cool
20:08 * wizzyrea gives up
20:08 rangi For sekjal
20:08 wahanui wizzyrea, I didn't have anything matching understandable
20:08 wizzyrea wahanui: forget Understandable.
20:07 wizzyrea forget understandable.
20:07 rangi And child
20:07 rangi $branch->parent
20:07 wizzyrea forget understandable
20:07 jcamins The time has come to map stuff.
20:06 wahanui rumour has it Understandable. is why i was running it against a local copy
20:06 jcamins Understandable.
20:06 rangi I gave up
20:05 jcamins rangi: you're coding on your phone?
20:05 rangi I hope my laptop arrives soon
20:05 rangi Writing code on my phone sux
20:05 rangi $branch->update
20:04 rangi Can change one then run
20:04 rangi If code is valid, you now have accessors to all its values
20:03 rangi If no code its an empty object
20:03 sekjal or be overridden by branch-specific exceptions
20:03 rangi My idea is $branch=koha::branch->new($code)
20:03 sekjal and wire that to circ rules so rules could be defined at upper levels of the hierarchy, and then 'trickle down' to all children
20:02 rangi Yeah that would be cool
20:01 * sekjal would like to get multi-level branch groups working, so consortia can mimic their internal structures
20:01 rangi But would be cool if didn't use c4
20:01 jcamins :)
20:01 rangi It's still cool
20:01 rangi Kyle did it
20:00 rangi So u can do it in the template
20:00 jcamins :)
20:00 rangi Getbranchname
20:00 mveron jcamins: OK, done, and thanks for advise, still learning :-)
20:00 rangi I saw it the other day
19:59 jcamins What new branches plugin?
19:59 rangi Then the new branches plugin would be a lot better
19:59 rangi Hmm we need koha::branches
19:57 jcamins Mark it either a duplicate, or mark that it depends on the bug that fixes it.
19:57 jcamins mveron: don't mark a bug as fixed until the code fixing it is in master.
19:55 jcamins Or I could just wear electrician gloves for typing.
19:54 * chris_n hands jcamins his electrician's gloves
19:53 jcamins I think I need to ground my chair.
19:53 chris_n so are we not better off to skip the envvar foo and make it a syspref?
19:53 sekjal chris_n: I think that's a goal
19:52 rangi Since in persistant env you read it only once
19:52 chris_n will persistance be default with 3.10?
19:52 sekjal which sucks
19:52 sekjal right now, the conf file is XML, parsed by XML::Simple
19:52 chris_n ahh
19:51 rangi Under persistance that benefit goes away
19:51 chris_n so its a trade off between ease of configuration and speed, right?
19:51 cait ok... perhaps talking nonsense
19:51 cait so only caching the conf file would dpeend on the vars?
19:51 cait could we make other things depend on the syspref maybe?
19:50 rangi Caching the config file
19:50 cait I think the reasoning was to cache the conf file
19:50 chris_n rangi: so is there any real advantage to having this in envvars?
19:49 mveron mbalmer: OK
19:49 mbalmer mveron, I think I will mail a description of the printing thingie to devel@ tomorrow
19:49 rangi Thats the bit I hate
19:48 rangi So hosted clients have to pay their vendor
19:48 jcamins Okay, is there a step 4?
19:48 mveron mbalmer: Yes, I am
19:48 cait *sigh*
19:48 rangi Remove the syspref
19:47 mbalmer mveron, ayt?
19:47 jcamins 3) ?
19:47 jcamins 2) Have Koha::Cache::Memcached check the environment variable.
19:47 jcamins 1) Rebase.
19:47 jcamins So the requisite steps are:
19:46 rangi And even filecache
19:46 mbalmer Koha zum Gruss!
19:46 rangi I want to write koha::cache::reddis too
19:45 rangi Well koha::cache::memcached anyway
19:45 jcamins And then...
19:45 rangi Yep
19:45 jcamins Right, so in order for this to work, the patch for Koha::Cache needs to check the environment variable?
19:44 sekjal helps when you actually read things
19:44 rangi Yep
19:44 * sekjal reads the report...
19:44 cait or everyone not having access to the env variables...
19:44 jcamins This explains why Koha::Cache vanished.
19:44 rangi Which kinda sux for multiple sites
19:44 jcamins Ah.
19:43 rangi Nope it depends on koha::cache which got blocked by ppl shifting the config of memcache into env variables
19:43 cait while I still would like that a lot
19:43 cait the discussion aorund: we don#t need a system preference for memcache derailed it I think
19:42 sekjal I don't recall
19:42 sekjal rangi: did I derail that in QA?
19:42 jcamins Hmph.
19:42 * cait hmpfs
19:42 rangi Nope
19:42 rangi Which stalled for some dumb reason
19:42 jcamins Wasn't that already pushed?
19:41 rangi But it needs the reports webservices to be pushed
19:41 jcamins I'm interested in the jQuery. :)
19:41 rangi It was all jQuery and reports
19:40 jcamins Did the open source academy students put their code for the collection analytics somewhere?
19:40 jcamins rangi: oh, I'm glad you're here.
19:40 rangi It's pouring here
19:39 oleonard Happy Saturday rangi
19:39 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 15.0°C (7:00 AM NZST on April 28, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Rising).
19:39 rangi @wunder nzwn
19:33 chris_n :-)
19:32 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7977 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, Needs Signoff , Add a "Quote-of-the-day" feature to the OPAC homepage
19:32 * chris_n looks for sign-offs on bug 7977 now
19:27 chris_n only for the recipients, of course...
19:27 chris_n that stinks
19:27 chris_n but I did forget to put it in the patches to the list... arghhh
19:27 jcamins Fwoomp!
19:27 wizzyrea hm
19:27 chris_n no, the bug # is there
19:27 wizzyrea git bz attach xxxx HEAD
19:26 wizzyrea chris_n: did you not include the bug number?
19:26 * chris_n spams patches@
19:26 wizzyrea <3 thanks sekjal
19:25 jcamins :)
19:25 jcamins Dark chocolate whole wheat zucchini brownies.
19:24 * sekjal 's brain is mush today
19:24 jcamins Does anyone know where to find the code for the nifty collection analytics that the highschool students at Catalyst's open source academy did?
19:24 sekjal wizzyrea: done
19:22 oleonard impatient!
19:22 * oleonard is anxious to submit this patch but keeps finding rough edges
19:22 chris_n so much for the easy route :-P
19:22 jcamins never seen anything like that.
19:22 jcamins chris_n: no idea.
19:21 chris_n what language is git bz speaking when it borks thusly: Not an ancestor of HEAD, can't add bug URL to it
19:21 sekjal hi, jcamins
19:21 jcamins Also, hi sekjal!
19:20 * jcamins mutters angrily about totally missing the point of XML.
19:20 * wizzyrea has to do an export
19:20 wizzyrea oh speaking of slurping.
19:20 jcamins Okay, fine, we'll slurp the data using opac-export.pl.
19:19 wizzyrea sekjal++
19:19 sekjal wizzyrea: on it
19:18 * wizzyrea puts him to work
19:18 jcamins You're kidding me... XHTML doesn't really do namespaces?
19:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7998 minor, P5 - low, ---, wizzyrea, Signed Off , 3.8 UI cleanup, tweaks to new styles
19:18 wizzyrea sekjal - bug 7998 plox and thank you
19:13 jcamins How does one embed MARCXML into a web page?
19:12 jcamins Do it a few times and you'll feel nice and offended.
19:12 jcamins "Argh!"
19:12 jcamins Just repeat after me:
19:12 jcamins It's easy.
19:12 jcamins Sure you are.
19:11 * oleonard is not smart enough to be offended
19:11 jcamins (the absence of 751)
19:11 jcamins Is no one else offended by this?
19:10 jcamins And by "embedding" I mean "providing an option to."
19:10 jcamins And by "we" I mean "me."
19:10 jcamins We are embedding the MARCXML in the OPAC.
19:10 jcamins Okay, there is only one thing for it.
19:10 * oleonard confirms that this works: http://pro.test2.biblibre.com/cgi-bin/koha/cataloguing/ysearch.pl?table=biblioitems&field=itemtype&query=d
19:09 * jcamins had not noticed this before.
19:09 jcamins 751 doesn't even show up?
19:09 jcamins Wait...
19:02 wizzyrea *crickets*
19:00 wizzyrea not those kind of nuts.
19:00 jcamins No, though sometimes they do pour nuts on the sidewalk by accident.
19:00 jcamins Heh.
18:59 * wizzyrea thought jcamins was going to say "and pick them up off of the sidewalk"
18:59 oleonard :P
18:59 jcamins To the store.
18:59 jcamins oleonard: I'd walk down the street.
18:58 wizzyrea but i'm not totally certain about that
18:58 wizzyrea I think we have them here in the bulk bin at the natural grocery
18:58 * oleonard isn't sure where he would find 200g of hazelnuts around here
18:57 wizzyrea well, here, if nutella is too bad for you, make it yourself: http://www.allthelivelongday.com/2012/04/homemade-hazelnut-spread.html
18:55 chris_n ok, squashing time
18:52 jcamins After I've finished making sure that I have 751s in all my records, maybe I'll do that.
18:52 jcamins If only the 751 had a unique class.
18:52 wizzyrea yes, that would be nifty
18:51 wizzyrea ok what would be nifty
18:51 jcamins A bit of jQuery to insert a Google (or other) map of locations described in a record.
18:51 jcamins lol, no.
18:51 * wizzyrea is thusly afraid to ask
18:51 * wizzyrea is afraid it has to do with silly putty and underwear
18:51 wizzyrea put it in your pocket!
18:51 jcamins You know what would be nifty?
18:51 wizzyrea "Don't put the silly putty in your underwear"
18:50 * wizzyrea had a "only when you have kids" statement to add to the file
18:50 jcamins oleonard: lol
18:50 wizzyrea (do try not to eat the sand though)
18:49 wizzyrea oleonard: use the sandboxes :P
18:49 wahanui the sandboxes are http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Sandboxes
18:49 wizzyrea and the sandboxes
18:49 wizzyrea well
18:49 wizzyrea I think it's running master, not sure tho
18:49 wizzyrea biblibre does
18:49 * oleonard doesn't suppose anyone has a UNIMARC demo lying around
18:48 * wizzyrea laughs at you all
18:48 chris_n don't tell my kids!
18:47 * oleonard knew Nutella wasn't healthy from the amount of shame he feels when spooning it from the jar into his mouth
18:46 wizzyrea not healthy, tasty tho.
18:46 wizzyrea damn, it's not working
18:46 oleonard Oh no, Nutella isn't healthy?! http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/business/2012/04/nutella-after-suit-drops-health-claims/
18:46 * wizzyrea wishes
18:46 wizzyrea "oops I tripped and landed in NZ"
18:46 * wizzyrea was accidentally in "en-nz"
18:46 wizzyrea right, I follow now
18:46 jcamins wizzyrea: you need to rebuild your translations.
18:45 wizzyrea nm, I answered my own questions.
18:45 oleonard Hunh?
18:45 wizzyrea or is that part of your work getting them out of translated paths
18:45 wizzyrea guess?
18:45 wizzyrea ! the new UI only works in en I guesS?
18:45 jcamins oleonard: that is odd.
18:41 oleonard Looking at the script it seems like it ought to
18:41 oleonard I wonder why this doesn't work: http://localhost:8888/cgi-bin/koha/cataloguing/ysearch.pl?table=biblioitems&field=itemtype&query=CIRC
18:41 cait hm
18:41 cait ok
18:40 oleonard The first autocomplete script was called "ysearch" and each one after that has been named the same thing.
18:40 cait oh
18:40 jcamins Yahoo.
18:40 cait what is the y?
18:40 cait ysearch
18:40 oleonard ?
18:39 cait the name is weird too?
18:33 jcamins oleonard: I fear to speculate.
18:32 oleonard Why design a script to which you can pass a table for queries and then make it die if you pass the wrong table?
18:32 jcamins oleonard: it is.
18:32 oleonard This is a very odd script: http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=cataloguing/ysearch.pl;h=77144e17315d14007e45d2fbe5fdc171b66f7128;hb=HEAD
18:27 oleonard One more instance in cataloguing\value_builder\unimarc_field_210c_bis.tt :|
18:27 jcamins oleonard++
18:27 jcamins Woohoo!
18:27 * oleonard thinks he has the authorities autocomplete working correctly with jQueryUI now.
18:19 libsysguy i like that explanation
18:19 wizzyrea lol wow.
18:11 jcamins That clarifies a lot.
18:11 jcamins Thanks.
18:11 jcamins oleonard: lol
18:10 oleonard jcamins: You can think of LCNAF as being like our schools, or our health care system. We make them just okay, but not too good because after that: socialism.
18:04 jcamins Have I mentioned recently how far behind LCNAF lags the rest of the world? The name authority file of Spain is a joy to behold.
17:36 cait :)
17:36 jcamins I thought we were singing.
17:36 cait mi?
17:32 jcamins mi
17:31 cait re
17:23 jcamins Looking at the code, that's actually intentional, but I don't think it should be.
17:23 cait brb restart :)
17:22 cait maybe in more places
17:22 cait in staff detail view and in opac auth result list at least
17:22 cait that all authorities show up as default
17:22 cait there is also the problem
17:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7943 normal, P5 - low, ---, frederic, NEW , Untranslatable strings in OPAC's authority search
17:22 cait bug 7943
17:21 jcamins \o/
17:21 cait there is also a nice bug filed for it already
17:21 cait so I wouldn't mind at all if someone else took care of it
17:21 cait it's on my list of things I want to look at.... but the list is long
17:20 cait heh
17:20 jcamins (that was shock that you'd do such a thing)
17:18 jcamins :O
17:16 * cait is only trying to get someone to fix it... *confessing*
17:14 cait or someone fixes it .. and will break autocomplete again
17:14 cait perhaps before you spent time on fixing the autocomplete... we should fix it
17:14 cait eeeevil
17:13 cait oleonard: it's evil
17:06 oleonard Pre-2006 at least
17:04 chris_n ich
17:04 oleonard Wow, and that's really old code too (relatively speaking)
17:02 jcamins Is there no way to stick that in the template?
17:02 jcamins :)
17:02 jcamins Oh god my eyes my eyes
17:02 jcamins Ummm...
17:01 oleonard There it is.
17:01 oleonard $seeheading.= "<br /> <i>used for/see from:</i> ".$field->as_string();
16:55 jcamins chris_n: I'll try and take a look later this afternoon.
16:55 chris_n did I mention I dislike UI work? ;-)
16:55 chris_n I did a bit more tweaking on the UI yesterday
16:55 chris_n heya cait
16:55 chris_n jcamins: I'll be squashing the qotd work down and attaching it to the bug this afternoon
16:55 cait hi chris_n
16:54 * chris_n blinks
16:54 jcamins Useless, do you hear me? Useless!
16:53 * cait went there to fix them once... but couldn't figure it out
16:53 jcamins Oh LCNAF, how useless you are.
16:53 cait and it's throwring warns
16:53 cait the item form thing does it too
16:52 cait dito
16:52 jcamins I'm strictly against building HTML code in anything other than templates.
16:52 jcamins Everything about the record editors is insanely bad.
16:52 cait because ... yeah. strictly against building html code in pm files containing strings
16:52 oleonard Oh boy, second spontaneous firefox crash of the day :P
16:51 cait it's a insanely bad piece of code (in my eyes)
16:51 jcamins I believe you. That was more of a rhetorical question.
16:51 cait I filed a bug
16:51 jcamins But it's up there.
16:51 cait yes, really
16:51 jcamins Wait, no it isn't.
16:51 jcamins cait: *really*? That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
16:51 oleonard Of course, you right.
16:51 cait I wonder who did that and why why why... *sigh*
16:51 jcamins I don't expect it will be 100% fixed, but at least it should be improved.
16:51 cait as the see and see also come from... the .pm
16:50 cait it contains untranslatable strings
16:50 cait and
16:50 cait it's building the html in .... a .pm
16:50 * jcamins hopes it'll improve in 3.10.
16:50 cait oleonard: the whole display is build bad :(
16:50 jcamins Yes.
16:49 oleonard 'summary' => 'Leonard, Arthur Gray, b. 1865<br />
16:49 oleonard From my very small sample it looks like such records could be chopped off after the "<br />":
16:46 jcamins oleonard++
16:46 jcamins Woohoo!
16:46 * oleonard is re-doing YUI autocompletes in jqueryUI
16:46 jcamins I guess I never tested selecting records with a see from.
16:45 jcamins oleonard: it certainly does.
16:44 oleonard This behavior of authorities autocomplete seems less than optimal: http://screencast.com/t/7x1co5JgQ
16:44 cait oh right
16:43 jcamins That we could do that if we had better semantic classes.
16:43 jcamins That was my idea.
16:43 cait jcamins: what was your idea?
16:38 cait it's from jakob voss
16:38 jcamins That SeeAlso is really cool, BTW. :)
16:36 cait yeah, he really is a great guy
16:36 jcamins magnuse is a great guy, so I'm sure he'll forgive you. ;)
16:36 * cait does it now
16:35 cait I think I didn't think of it
16:35 cait um no
16:35 jcamins Have you shown that to magnuse?
16:35 jcamins Ummm...
16:35 cait I think it's based on this http://ws.gbv.de/seealso/
16:34 jcamins If we had more semantic classes in our XSLT output, we could do that easily.
16:34 cait it's open source I think
16:34 cait we could do the wikipedia links
16:34 jcamins Speaking of which, I just had an idea.
16:33 cait ah yes
16:33 jcamins About the way you link out to wikipedia, and have useful authorities.
16:33 cait and did you say something nice? :)
16:33 cait in which context?
16:33 jcamins Yup.
16:33 cait oh you did?
16:32 jcamins Oh, BTW, cait, I talked about your union catalog at a Code4Lib meeting the other day.
16:32 cait actulaly.. no
16:32 cait hm no
16:31 jcamins Are you worried we might not be able to think of things we want in the future? :P
16:31 cait we should start a wish list :)
16:31 cait that too
16:30 jcamins Useful authority display in the OPAC.
16:30 cait but would be nice if it worked actually
16:30 cait ok... I know it's a libarian feature
16:30 cait alphabetic register search...
16:30 jcamins Auto-suggest in the OPAC.
16:30 cait where bus is bugs and not enhancements
16:30 cait open bugs down to 300
16:30 cait oh yes
16:30 cait can I send a longer wish list? :)
16:30 jcamins I'd also love for chris_n to finish his new cataloging editor.
16:30 cait and... hm.
16:30 cait and semantikoha things in opac
16:29 jcamins Or mostly rewritten authorities module.
16:29 cait oh yes
16:29 jcamins And a rewritten authorities module.
16:29 cait and json for cached reports...
16:29 jcamins Yes.
16:28 cait for 3.10
16:28 cait in koha
16:28 cait but I absolutely want it
16:28 cait and I am sure also changed other things
16:28 cait we changed the interface on that page
16:28 jcamins Yeah, I know. :(
16:28 cait probably needs rebase now tho
16:28 cait yep true
16:28 cait he talked about breaking it into smaller pieces
16:28 jcamins But we could always do with more sign offs.
16:27 cait only problem was unimarc :(
16:27 jcamins I know.
16:27 cait it worked beautifully
16:27 cait I tsted it
16:27 jcamins I need time to test it and sign off on it.
16:27 jcamins We need marcelr's SRU search stuff.
16:27 jcamins You know what we need for this to work?
16:26 jcamins cait: :)
16:25 cait it's very cool :) and very new
16:25 cait gemeinsame normdatei I think
16:25 cait also includes swd and gkd (corporates and topic(?) authorities)
16:24 cait gnd now
16:24 cait jcamins: no more pnd
16:24 jcamins Great, viaf is dead.
16:23 jcamins Library of Congress Name Authority File, Personennamendatei, Virtual International Authority File.
16:22 jcamins lol
16:22 * wizzyrea dies
16:22 * wizzyrea is critted by acronyms for 9999
16:22 jcamins Or VIAF.
16:21 jcamins You know, I would really like an authority module that could directly interface with LCNAF/PND/etc.
16:21 * cait nods
16:20 jcamins cait: another mystery!
16:18 cait why is edition not mapped by default?
16:18 wizzyrea don't ask me
16:18 cait don't know
16:18 jcamins I mean, their storage in the database.
16:17 jcamins wizzyrea: why don't we normalize ISBNs?
16:17 wizzyrea well 3, actually.
16:17 wizzyrea i mean, that sucks if you're trying to report out ISBN's, you have to extract them from the marcxml if there are more than a couple in there
16:17 jcamins wizzyrea: no idea.
16:16 wizzyrea why exactly is the biblioitems.isbn field only size 30
16:09 oleonard No, I just wanted to show the transformation in an obvious way since edveal wanted to put it in password where it will be masked
16:08 jwagner oleonard, shouldn't that third line be #surname instead of #firstname?
16:07 edveal Thanks that will help.
16:06 oleonard edveal: ^^
16:06 pastebot "oleonard" at 66.213.78.34 pasted "Try this in the Firebug console" (3 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/372
16:05 cait that fell over the edge when they changed something.. :(
16:05 jcamins That too.
16:05 edveal oleonard yes that is it. The field is filled in Surname case and we want it to be all uppercase when it is moved to password.
16:05 cait like that nice patch from chris did
16:05 cait we should cache report results
16:05 cait hm
16:04 jcamins cait: we should cache authority usage statistics.
16:04 jcamins *specifics
16:04 cait I have no idea what this is about- but Koha::Cache yay
16:03 jcamins I'm pretty flexible about the specfics.
16:03 jcamins That would also be good.
16:03 jcamins Or we should use Koha::Cache.
16:03 cait hI :)
16:03 jcamins That would be good.
16:03 jcamins Specifically, we should use memoize_memcached.
16:02 jcamins You know, it is my considered opinion that we should cache the usage statistics for authorities.
16:01 jcamins oleonard++ # the save button that sticks to the header in the cataloging module is great
15:59 oleonard You're trying to convert the surname to uppercase when populating the password field?
15:56 edveal });
15:56 edveal });
15:56 edveal $("#entryform #password").val($("#entryform #surname").val());
15:56 edveal $("#entryform #surname").blur(function(){
15:56 edveal $(document).ready(function(){
15:56 edveal I am using this to auto populate a password field. But I want to add .toUpperCase and am having no luck. Any use .toUpperCase?
15:52 jcamins lol
15:52 chris_n lol
15:51 oleonard chris_n: As my wife would say, "Someone who says little things don't bother them has never tried to sleep in a room with a man who hears one mosquito"
15:51 francharb see ya
15:48 chris_n QOTD: "Someone who says little things don't bother them has never tried to sleep in a room with one mosquito."
15:45 reiveune bye
15:36 jcamins Seriously, every single one.
15:34 jcamins Why is it that every authority file other than LC's has useful information in it?
15:20 kf bye all and nice weekend!
15:11 * jcamins pictures oleonard with a large bag full of cat hair, throwing it on his computer.
15:09 wizzyrea true enough
15:09 jcamins wizzyrea: wouldn't that be *de*-linting?
15:09 oleonard Speaking of which, maybe today is the day I'll give my keyboard a bath.
15:08 * wizzyrea imagines oleonard with a sticky tape roller, going after his computer
15:08 * oleonard is linting json
15:07 wahanui somebody said the first question was "What are you trying to do?" or or what is the goal?
15:07 wizzyrea the first question?
15:06 edveal Does anyone know if the users home library is or can be passed via SIP?
14:54 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #193: "<libsysguy> I don't always reterminate....but when I do the terminator is near a stud // * wizzyrea considers if this is a real statement or something to do with the movie." (added by slef at 02:56 PM, March 22, 2012)
14:54 wizzyrea @quote random
14:46 wizzyrea hehe that's a great one
14:46 hdl sekjal's name is neo
14:45 kf lol
14:44 huginn kf: Quote #148: "<oleonard> sekjal wants EVERYTHING in a matrix! <sekjal> I'm like the Anti-Neo" (added by wizzyrea at 05:11 PM, August 25, 2011)
14:44 kf @quote random
14:36 Culiforge hopefully the NAT will be set up before the end of the school year so I can bang my head on this project from home
14:35 jcamins 17/30s?
14:35 slef arrrgh 17/30ths of the way through time and 0% of mail completed... biab
14:35 wizzyrea :D
14:35 slef :)
14:34 wizzyrea ow my leg.
14:34 slef wizzyrea: Swiss Army Chainsaw, huh?
14:34 huginn slef: The operation succeeded. Quote #202 added.
14:34 slef @quote add <wizzyrea> well and before that I used the garden of razorblades that is OpenBSD.
14:34 Culiforge woot!
14:34 wizzyrea well and before that I used the garden of razorblades that is OpenBSD.
14:34 slef ;)
14:33 slef That's his choice and I respect his freedom to choose, but his freedom to swing his arm stops when it is infringing my face.
14:33 wizzyrea imo
14:33 wizzyrea i used to use redhat and fedora - but it makes no sense compared to debian.
14:33 Culiforge 'cause he believes rpmtools and redhat is the way to do it
14:33 slef oleonard: maybe he has monitoring and updates set up for fedora servers. But I doubt it.
14:32 * wizzyrea can play bofh too
14:32 oleonard Makes one wonder what the point is of going with his choice
14:32 wizzyrea install virtualbox on your fedora machine and run debian in that :P
14:32 Culiforge yeah
14:32 wizzyrea oh boy.
14:31 Culiforge quote: slef Culiforge: can you hire someone who has Fedora experience? well.. the netadmin wanted me to use fedora because that's what the school district uses... He offered to assist but it takes 3 days to get a response from him....
14:31 wizzyrea and the paths all point to 5.14.2, but in /usr/local/lib/perl, as well as usr/local/share/perl, i only see 5.12.4
14:29 wizzyrea 5.14.2
14:28 slef wizzyrea: /usr/local/bin/perl -V ?
14:27 wizzyrea it depends really on how bad the cut is :P
14:27 wizzyrea it's bewildering
14:27 wizzyrea well, on my new ubuntu upgrade (from 11 to 12) @INC is looking for 5.14.2 but in /usr/local/share/perl only exists 5.12.4
14:26 slef wizzyrea: if you cut your finger, do you amputate it?
14:26 slef wizzyrea: what one's that? looking at scrollback
14:26 wizzyrea maybe I need to remove it altogether and reinstall.
14:26 wizzyrea i'm really quite flummoxed by this perl problem on my laptop.
14:26 * wizzyrea giggles that was a funny day
14:25 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #182: "rangi: chiclet makes me think all you could type on it is bridget jones diary novels" (added by wizzyrea at 07:35 PM, January 25, 2012)
14:25 wizzyrea @quote random
14:24 gmcharlt jcamins: well, ys
14:24 jcamins gmcharlt: it's true, isn't it?
14:24 libsysguy can I use the theme roller?
14:24 * gmcharlt blinks
14:24 huginn gmcharlt: Quote #178: "jcamins: IIS kills kittens" (added by wizzyrea at 05:20 PM, January 10, 2012)
14:24 gmcharlt @quote random
14:24 * libsysguy loves some jqueryUI
14:24 libsysguy w00t!!
14:23 * oleonard ..and jqueryUI
14:23 * oleonard gives libsysguy css and js libs outside of translated paths
14:23 slef libsysguy: in the library with the lead piping.
14:23 wahanui oleonard is, like, still here, if you just wish hard enough. or Koha's master UI designer
14:23 libsysguy oleonard!!!
14:23 slef libsysguy: too late. oleonard already killed huginn
14:23 * libsysguy gives oleonard the hairy eyeball
14:23 wizzyrea no worries, no hurries gmcharlt - but huginn is broken and we miss him
14:23 libsysguy don't break anything oleonard
14:22 wizzyrea yay gmcharlt!
14:22 libsysguy yayy cool stuff from oleonard
14:22 * oleonard is hoping to bust up master with some good stuff
14:22 wizzyrea sorry, 7998
14:22 wizzyrea slef: first patches specifically for 3.8 that I know of, are 3998
14:22 slef bah Single Point Of Failure
14:22 wizzyrea patch -> signoff -> qa -> master -> stable
14:21 slef and I need 3.8 so I can probably do some QA
14:21 wizzyrea no, but often the workflow goes through master first
14:21 slef paul != rmaint is he?
14:21 jcamins slef: not as stable as 3.6. :)
14:21 wizzyrea plus paul is on vacation
14:21 slef Culiforge: can you hire someone who has Fedora experience?
14:21 wizzyrea if we can get some through farkin qa he would
14:20 Culiforge slef: tried it with the conf file same result... I'll follow your suggestions and see what comes up
14:20 slef is the RMaint keeping 3.8.x stable with swift bugfixes?
14:20 * wizzyrea gave up her hat of fiery death
14:20 wizzyrea <.<
14:20 wizzyrea >.>
14:20 slef jcamins: aw shush customers like the dual functions of latest cool features and firey death!
14:20 wizzyrea cool *partly broken* stuff.
14:20 libsysguy :p
14:20 libsysguy think of all the cool new stuff you get
14:19 libsysguy he its not so bad
14:19 libsysguy heh
14:19 jcamins libsysguy: oh, hey, I didn't see you there!
14:19 jcamins Another terrible idea is running master in production.
14:18 jcamins Terrible idea.
14:17 slef Culiforge: unless you're running all of koha as root which sounds like a Really Bad Idea to me.
14:17 slef Culiforge: and if you have ever successfully run zebrasrv as root, permissions will be screwed up with 95% probability, sorry
14:16 slef Culiforge: you may need to "yum install daemon" or something like that to make it work.
14:16 slef Culiforge: koha-zebra-ctl.sh
14:15 slef Culiforge: can you try the zebra start up script from koha's bin folder?
14:15 slef Culiforge: I don't think you want -c for an xml config
14:14 slef I guess that's my next job
14:14 slef not opened that mailbox since
14:14 slef I mailed gmcharlt about huginn
14:12 pastebot "nengard" at 98.114.30.184 pasted "report help needed - anyone around that can help me out with this one?" (47 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/371
14:10 jcamins 1016
14:10 * jcamins is checking.
14:09 wizzyrea oh, no
14:09 jcamins 1012, something like that?
14:09 jcamins I meant the numeric one.
14:09 wizzyrea kw?
14:09 wizzyrea i'm so confused.
14:09 jcamins (off the top of your head)
14:09 wizzyrea but in /usr/lib/perl I have 5.14.2
14:09 jcamins Does anyone remember what attribute is keyword?
14:08 wizzyrea same in /usr/local/share/perl
14:08 wizzyrea anyway: paste.koha-community.org/370
14:07 wizzyrea (that's my fault anyway.)
14:07 wizzyrea but that's easily fixed.
14:07 oleonard Probably means some proprietary driver problem.
14:07 wizzyrea well, it broke my hibernation again
14:06 wizzyrea mine worked mostly ok I think
14:06 wizzyrea boo!
14:06 oleonard Oh boy, I have an old problem back after upgrading Ubuntu: laptop display won't wake up after being closed :(
14:06 wizzyrea wtfrack
14:06 pastebot "jcamins" at 24.193.130.86 pasted "wizzyrea: I'm testing pastebot" (1 line) at http://paste.koha-community.org/369
14:05 wizzyrea oh bother, I guess pastebot is broken too?
14:05 Culiforge ah, ok
14:05 wizzyrea :)
14:05 jcamins The IRC channel moved over to here.
14:05 wizzyrea no one's home
14:04 Culiforge jcamins: so no one there?
14:04 wizzyrea that channel is this channel
14:04 jcamins Culiforge: that's the Koha mailing list.
14:04 jcamins Upgrade is finished.
14:04 Culiforge I notice there's #koha on katipo.co.nz.... when I google fedora and koha together, that's where most of the hits come from.... anyone have opinions on whether that might be a good place to ask?
14:03 jcamins Oh! Yes! I'm upgrading Ubuntu!
14:03 wizzyrea well I have a strange problem after my ubuntu upgrade
14:00 wizzyrea hm yea idk then.
13:56 Culiforge wizzyrea: or section tags rather.. the koha-conf.xml template from the install has none
13:56 wizzyrea similar, but not the same
13:56 wizzyrea right 7999 and 8000 are not the same
13:55 Culiforge wizzyrea: but there shouldn't be colons in xml tags should there?
13:55 wizzyrea he's at eg12conf
13:55 chris_n lol
13:55 * chris_n pokes gmcharlt
13:55 * oleonard hands chris_n a "Get to know your bots" pamphlet
13:54 * chris_n pokes huginn
13:54 * chris_n pokes wahanui
13:54 wizzyrea huginn has gone awol
13:54 chris_n bug 8000
13:53 wizzyrea that looks more like a typo in koha-conf.xml
13:52 Culiforge http://pastebin.com/rWfgAxUb
13:47 wizzyrea unless your specific error messages imply differently
13:47 wizzyrea but I'd have to take a guess and say that permissions are what's tripping you up
13:47 Culiforge wizzyrea: nor do I .... fedora would be so much better if it were deb based... :o
13:46 oleonard Hi wizzyrea
13:45 * wizzyrea waves
13:45 * wizzyrea doesn't use fedora
13:43 Culiforge slef: but I can't seem to get zebra to run much less start at boot
13:42 Culiforge slef: well, when I installed on ubuntu, everything went great but the school here wants it on fedora and I couldn't talk them out of it
13:34 slef but there's logbot
13:33 slef except huginn's missing
13:33 wahanui just ask, don't ask if you can ask and if the right people are not here, they won't answer or you can use huginn's @later to leave a message
13:33 slef meta-question?
13:33 slef Culiforge: I rarely do fedora. What's the problem?
13:28 * jcamins_away wanders off
13:28 jcamins_away Culiforge: I don't think anyone here uses Fedora, sorry.
13:26 Culiforge could someone provide some assistance getting zebra going on a fedora 14 system?
13:23 magnuse ah
13:23 jcamins_away But based on the price, it's considered a deluxe size.
13:23 jcamins_away It's not actually called deluxe.
13:22 * magnuse would have guessed a deluxe was bigger than normal
13:22 jcamins_away oleonard: unfortunately we have a very narrow kitchen, so we need a "deluxe" size.
13:21 jcamins_away According to GE, a new refrigerator uses approximately 1/4 as much electricity.
13:21 oleonard They can be, but I don't think they have to be (although I don't know how efficiency will affect the price offhand)
13:19 jcamins_away Sadly they're staggeringly expensive.
13:18 magnuse yup
13:18 jcamins_away Using more than 1/3 of our electricity does seem rather significant.
13:17 magnuse i'd bet it is
13:17 jcamins_away The question is whether the electricity usage is high enough for a new fridge to pay for itself.
13:16 jcamins_away magnuse: yeah, I know. :(
13:15 oleonard The ad read, "Can hold up to 100 cans of Tab!"
13:14 magnuse hehe
13:13 oleonard "in the bleary haze of a cocaine-and-disco hangover"
13:13 magnuse don't expect the next one to last that long, though... :-(
13:13 magnuse hehe
13:13 jcamins_away (other than a few vague references to "we bought the fridge sometime in the seventies")
13:12 jcamins_away oleonard: it certainly is. The internet doesn't seem to know that this type of fridge was ever made.
13:12 oleonard Also: Holy smokes that's an old fridge!
13:11 * oleonard agrees!
13:11 magnuse then i think a new one will improve things sigificantly, yes :-)
13:11 jcamins_away I think.
13:11 jcamins_away magnuse: uhhh... thirty or forty years?
13:11 magnuse oleonard: :-(
13:11 magnuse how old is the old one?
13:11 oleonard magnuse: Yeah, we have issues with our cargo delivery contractor :(
13:10 jcamins_away The next step is to find out whether a new fridge would improve things significantly.
13:10 magnuse oops "In transit from Wells (Albany) to Glouster since 09/30/2011"
13:10 magnuse oleonard: cool
13:10 magnuse jcamins_away: cool
13:10 jcamins_away oleonard: cool!
13:10 jcamins_away magnuse: that's why I decided I needed a meter.
13:09 oleonard http://search.myacpl.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=253660
13:09 jcamins_away oleonard: yup.
13:09 * magnuse would consider a new fridge
13:09 oleonard Wow. did you use one of those plug-in meters?
13:08 magnuse oops
13:08 jcamins_away For those who have been eagerly awaiting the results of my research, it looks like our fridge uses a bit more than 1/3 of the electricity we consume in a month.
13:07 magnuse hehe
13:07 jcamins_away (in response to magnuse's graph)
13:07 jcamins_away Ooh, cool!
13:07 * oleonard taps his foot, looking around
13:07 oleonard Bug 8014
13:03 kf yep
13:01 magnuse it might look different for things like search, but it's moving in the right direction
13:00 kf oh nice!
13:00 magnuse no memcache or plack
13:00 magnuse the blue one has tt caching turned on
13:00 magnuse pretty much as is
12:59 kf is this memcache or plack or something? or just as is?
12:59 kf oh cool
12:57 magnuse this is encouraging: http://div.libriotech.no/kohamisc/36x-vs-master.png it's the response times for two koha opacs, green is 3.6.4, blue is current master
12:40 kf that woudl be good I think
12:40 kf yeah
12:39 oleonard I'd like to hide the "restricted unil" date entry form on memberentry if "Restricted: No" is checked.
12:39 kf in circ?
12:38 oleonard Strange, when the selection is moved from one radio button to another the change() function doesn't fire on the one the selection moves away from
12:34 kf oleonard: if you believe strong enough... it will work
12:33 * oleonard would take it if he could as it would go well with this coffee
12:32 * kf hands over the cookie
12:31 oleonard :)
12:30 * kf offers a cookie for a smile
12:30 oleonard Yes.
12:29 kf it's friday :)
12:28 oleonard Hi kf
12:28 kf hi oleonard :)
12:26 oleonard So.
10:45 newa34 ok gudday all ..see u all soon
10:01 kf hi samuel
10:00 samuel hi everybody!
09:49 vfernandes ok thanks anyway kf... maybe should be better to send a email to the koha list
09:48 kf I don't know
09:47 vfernandes right...but shouldn't koha fill that field automatically?
09:47 kf so no idea about your problem
09:46 kf we are using MARC21 only
09:46 kf vfernandes: sorry, I don't know about UNIMARC
09:46 wahanui no one is saying a word, soooooo
09:46 vfernandes no one?
09:36 vfernandes anyone knows how to solve this?
09:35 vfernandes the values for that subfields are in the biblio table, but should also be in the column marcxml of biblioitems
09:35 vfernandes but when I create a new record (or when editing) the field isn't filled in the marcxml
09:34 vfernandes in UNIMARC the field 099 have two subfield: the creation date (date-entered-on-file) and the last modification date
09:33 vfernandes one question: on UNIMARC Koha souldn't the field 099 in the marcxml be filled automatically?
09:32 vfernandes Hi Koha community
09:30 kf babu: are you trying to install Koha on windows?
09:29 babu BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at C:/Usr/koha229/opac/cgi-bin/koha/opac-main.pl line 7.
09:27 wahanui search faq is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/searching/
09:27 kf search faq?
09:23 babu hi to all
08:04 newa34 some of the frens post patch with concept of Centralize mail system for koha 3.6 is it now included on 3.8? or need to patch to have ta feature
08:03 newa34 Do anyone have Idea about GMAIL SMTP for carts....?
08:03 magnuse pizzaday!
08:03 magnuse hey, it's friday!
08:01 magnuse it's friday...
08:01 kf wahanui is being mean
08:01 kf Could not find opac-search.xml in /usr/share/koha/opac/cgi-bin/opac/ at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Search.pm is?
08:00 kf hmpf
08:00 kf Could not find opac-search.xml in /usr/share/koha/opac/cgi-bin/opac/ at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Search.pm?
08:00 magnuse i wonder if it is a bug or just missing setup, though
08:00 wahanui OK, kf.
08:00 kf wahanui: Could not find opac-search.xml in /usr/share/koha/opac/cgi-bin/opac/ at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Search.pm is <reply> Try to turn of the OpacGroupResults system preference. :)
08:00 kf Could not find opac-search.xml in /usr/share/koha/opac/cgi-bin/opac/ at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Search.pm line 606?
08:00 kf Could not find opac-search.xml in /usr/share/koha/opac/cgi-bin/opac/ at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Search.pm line 606 is Try to turn of the OpacGroupResults system preference.
08:00 magnuse hey, i didn't do much!
07:59 kf magnuse++
07:55 magnuse no problemo!
07:54 newa34 need to figure out more abt pazpar2....anyway thax alots magnuse
07:53 newa34 magnus u were right...it worked when i turned off OpacGroupResult
07:50 magnuse but i never tried setting up pazpar2, so i can't be of much help here
07:50 newa34 ok i will try it now...few minutes plz
07:49 Amit_Gupta heya kf
07:49 kf ah yep that one
07:49 newa34 i am installing it on Debian(Squeeze)
07:49 magnuse when i set OpacGroupResults = Use i get the same error
07:49 kf try a search for grouped in the system preferences
07:49 kf perhaps try turning off the pazpar2 preference
07:49 newa34 i think i did had nearly same error during koha 3.2 but...on later version i havent got it...during tat time it was some sort of package missing...but this time i can find there is no any package missing required for koha installation
07:47 magnuse hiya Amit_Gupta
07:46 kf hi magnuse and all
07:46 newa34 yes i have selected pazpar2 during installation
07:46 Amit_Gupta heya magnuse
07:45 magnuse newa34: never seen that before, are you using pazpar2?
07:41 newa34 can make search on Staff Client but on OPAC this error appeared ....any idea any one??
07:41 newa34 I am having "Could not find opac-search.xml in /usr/share/koha/opac/cgi-bin/opac/ at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Search.pm line 606 " error with newly installed koha 3.8
07:40 newa34 helo everyone....
07:24 * magnuse will try to remember that
07:24 clrh I prefer bonjour magnuse ^^
07:24 magnuse oh well
07:24 wahanui no is failing unit tests
07:24 magnuse no?
07:24 magnuse @seen danielg
07:24 magnuse danielg++
07:24 magnuse hiya esofiane
07:23 esofiane Hi everybody
07:14 magnuse guten morgen kf
07:14 kf hi #koha
07:13 magnuse or "bonjour", your choice :-)
07:13 magnuse vonjour clrh
07:11 clrh hello all
07:05 magnuse kia ora #koha!
06:53 reiveune hello
06:23 alex_a bonjour
05:50 Oak :)
05:38 cait hi Oak :)
05:32 Oak Guten Morgen cait :)
05:24 cait good morning francharb :)
05:24 francharb good morning
05:21 cait hi Amit_Gupta
05:21 Amit_Gupta heya cait
04:41 Oak kia ora #koha
04:02 Amit_Gupta heya bag
03:04 Milts_NZ Thx all for the help, have a great day/evening/night/morning (depending)
02:42 jcamins lol
02:42 Space_Librarian just don't let wizzyrea anywhere near it, you'll never get it back.
02:42 jcamins :)
02:41 Space_Librarian [off] sure, I'm not going to need it.
02:40 jcamins [off] can I use my borrowed TARDIS to get a do-over for this week?
02:40 jcamins Thank you!
02:40 jcamins Yes!
02:40 * Space_Librarian offers a TARDIS for use
02:39 * jcamins sighs- wish I had more time for signing things off just now.
02:37 jcamins And regularly curse our "implementation."
02:37 jcamins druthb_away: BTW, speak for yourself, I use CCL for most of my searching in Koha.
02:37 Space_Librarian excellent
02:36 jcamins That's what it was supposed to do.
02:36 jcamins Oh, good. :)
02:36 Space_Librarian took*
02:36 Space_Librarian nope? the first link too me straight to the code
02:35 jcamins If it did, I'll try and fix that.
02:35 jcamins Did it demand that you login?
02:35 jcamins My first link shouldn't require a login.
02:35 Space_Librarian re: the ^^ URL - O.o
02:34 * Space_Librarian does something about a github login
02:34 jcamins ^^ that's a pretty awful URL.
02:34 jcamins So you can combine that example with the code we have in the OPAC Details page to get something like what you want. http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/prog/en/xslt/MARC21slim2OPACDetail.xsl;h=f507e11fcd1a160a193d104f81b96ff902d87f73;hb=HEAD#l634
02:33 Space_Librarian it isn't indeed
02:32 jcamins That's even not a staggeringly awful URL. :)
02:32 jcamins https://github.com/jcamins/koha/blob/nnan2/koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/prog/en/xslt/MARC21slim2OPACResults.xsl#L510
02:32 * Space_Librarian has delegated all work and wants something to do that is productive.
02:31 Space_Librarian Point me in the right direction!
02:31 Space_Librarian Very convenient.
02:31 Space_Librarian what was I going to do. That's right. That's what I was going to do. Will investigate it now.
02:31 jcamins :)
02:31 jcamins Convenient, isn't that?
02:31 jcamins As it happens, I can point you to an example of what might be wanted.
02:30 jcamins What we really need is for the 773 to show up in OPAC results.
02:30 Space_Librarian Yes, yes there is. Now. to remember what I was going to do...
02:28 jcamins_away But there's still time!
02:28 jcamins_away I certainly was under the impression that you hadn't.
02:27 jcamins_away Doesn't look like it.
02:27 Space_Librarian I'm trying to remember if I did or not!
02:27 jcamins_away I didn't notice it yet if you did!
02:27 jcamins_away Space_Librarian: did you write that patch yet?
02:26 * Space_Librarian blinks and scurries off to check the patches
02:24 jcamins_away Space_Librarian: I look forward to signing off on your patch adding 773 to the OPAC results. :)
02:23 * Space_Librarian now wants gelato
02:21 druthb I require frozen yogurt, and chocolate. Perhaps chocolate frozen yogurt. Back directly, and then I'll consider writing a patch to clear up both of these bugs.
02:20 druthb mtj: :P
02:20 mtj ...you keep digging that hole, ruth :)
02:15 druthb Still a pretty trivial patch, IMO.
02:15 druthb It looks to me like the basic case that Fridolyn raises in bug 6092 needs to be handled, for systems where that is still set to NULL, as well as setting the values in the installer (Bug 8012)
02:15 mtj druthb: nope, no patch wanted from me :) logging the issue is 'GOOD-ENUFF' (tm applied for)
02:13 * druthb walks out onto the high dive, in a hurricane, with nothing but a small tumbler of water where the pool should be, blindfolded...
02:10 mtj not saying that y'all are 'bitching' :)
02:09 druthb Since you can't set NULL in the interface, it really makes little sense to me why the value is initialized NULL.
02:08 mtj see, after a little bit of practice - i can log a bug in about the same time it takes me to bitch about something borken on #irc
02:07 druthb It looks like there was an attempt to fix this, by handling the "NULL" initialized value in the syspref at the template. But why not just initialize the value correctly?
02:04 druthb I suppose since I said "trivial to fix", you'll be wanting a *patch* or something, too, mtj? :P
02:03 druthb Bug 8012 filed.
02:01 druthb I logged one yesterday, so this'll be my second this month, too.
02:01 Space_Librarian :p
02:00 Space_Librarian I think Milts_NZ may be getting tired of my saying "log a bug" too
02:00 Milts_NZ I've logged 2 in the last month, isn't there some kind of quota?
02:00 mtj pssst... log a bug...
01:59 Milts_NZ From a 'slightly lost end user' perspective it seems _quite_ silly
01:56 druthb even a manual chapter, or something on the wiki or something, might be helpful. But if the mode is "relevance", the default oughta be "Descending" as installed anyway...that's always seemed a lil silly.
01:56 Space_Librarian druthb++
01:55 Space_Librarian I get the feeling much of our Initial Set-Up wasn't ever actually Set-Up... so what Milts_NZ says would be great.
01:55 Milts_NZ because without you, we would have been lost for a long time
01:55 druthb T'weren't nothin', sweetie. Just something I've learned about new installs, having done so many of 'em.
01:55 Milts_NZ druthb: there should be a popup when you open Koha for the first time with a list of 'best default settings'
01:55 * druthb blushes.
01:55 Space_Librarian Thanks for the epic fix.
01:54 Space_Librarian hey druthb :D
01:54 * druthb squees happily!
01:54 druthb I have trouble teaching librarians occasionally that you don't do CCL queries with Koha...just throw words at it, like you do Google, and it mostly Just Works.
01:54 * Space_Librarian appears in a blinding flash of light
01:53 Milts_NZ :D
01:53 mtj ...bug logged :)
01:52 druthb :D Tell her hello for me!
01:52 Milts_NZ druthb: SpaceLibrarian also says Hi and THANKS
01:50 druthb Glad to have been of service Milts. I set up new installs all the time, and that's just one of my setting-up steps.
01:50 Milts_NZ druthb: Thanks, playing with the sort order's done it
01:49 druthb mtj++ once NoZebra is gone, yeah, all the stuff that only works for NoZebra needs to go away tooooo
01:49 druthb no need to reindex when you change those; it Just Works.
01:49 mtj druthb: a patch to remove stopwords, after nozebra code is deleted
01:48 druthb *side
01:48 druthb defaultSortOrder is the staff sidd, OPACdefaultSortOrder is the OPAC
01:48 Milts_NZ will that also make a difference when searching in the staff side?
01:47 druthb I always end up setting defaultSortOrder and OPACdefaultSortOrder to "descending," which makes better sense for relevance.
01:47 Milts_NZ ooooo o.0
01:47 Milts_NZ OK. We don't have QueryFuzzy and QueryStemming on, maybe they would help
01:47 druthb Now, in the default install, defaultSortField/defaultSortOrder are set to relevance/ascending, which doesn't make much sense...it puts the *lowest* relevance first.
01:46 druthb we get best results with QueryAutoTruncate set to "only if * is added", QueryFuzzy "Try", QueryStemming "Try", QueryWeightFields "Enable".
01:46 Milts_NZ and it appears 6th in the list with all the items before it seemingly appearing because they have "a" and "the" in the titles
01:45 Milts_NZ I've got a screenshot of a search for the title of an item uploaded here: http://www.4freeimagehost.com/show.php?i=8740fa83bc35.png
01:45 wahanui druthb: I forgot does
01:45 druthb wahanui: forget does
01:44 wahanui does is calculate the discount on this price or the tax is removed before to calculte the discount on the price before taxes?
01:44 druthb what does?
01:44 mtj ooh, that sounds like it needs a bug logged
01:44 druthb I've not observed that problem here; lemme grab a couple of settings for you to check.
01:44 Milts_NZ ah I was wondering that. We are using Zebra.
01:44 druthb The short answer is, if you're using NoZebra, there are stopwords, but you have bigger problems, as that is deprecated, and really shouldn't be used. If you're using Zebra, there are no stopwords.
01:43 Milts_NZ because without them our relevancy ranking is pretty off...
01:43 Milts_NZ we're playing with stopwords, and it seems to make little difference... is it correct that you can't use stopwords if Zebra is turned on?
01:43 Milts_NZ hey :D
01:42 druthb Hi, Milts. :)
01:42 Milts_NZ Hey Idlers, is there anyone I can talk to about stopwords in Koha?