Time Nick Message
23:48 rangi http://boingboing.net/2012/04/26/sneak-attack-surprise-amendme.html <-- yuck
23:36 druthb hi, rangi! :D
23:36 rangi hi druthb
23:35 druthb o/
23:07 jcamins_away Well, I think I know why it's taking so long... everyone is downloading Ubuntu right now.
23:06 * jcamins_away joins the Ubuntu upgrade party.
22:01 * wizzyrea will probably do that here soon.
22:00 eythian hmm, I should probably build a 12.04 vm some time and test the packages there.
22:00 wizzyrea ubuntu*
22:00 wizzyrea don't think it's koha tho, I think it's ubunut.
22:00 wizzyrea there is something funny with perl include paths in ubuntu 12. will have to work that out.
21:59 wizzyrea my favorite simple cookie
21:59 wizzyrea i love those
21:59 wizzyrea oh snickerdoodles,
21:55 ronald hey hello eythian
21:54 eythian hello ronald
21:54 ronald Good morning rangi:)
21:53 rangi hi ronald
21:53 chris_n while waiting for the baked potatoes and chili to get done cooking
21:52 ronald Hiya #Koha
21:51 rangi yum
21:51 * chris_n munches a snickerdoodle
21:50 eythian hi
20:57 mveron Good night #koha
20:41 mveron You get a room in an other part of the building...
20:41 mveron Holyrood PAlace is big...
20:39 mbalmer heh, it is your fault, mveron!
20:38 mveron The same...
20:38 mbalmer hotel booked.
20:36 cait heh
20:34 * chris_n heads off in search of cookies... very carefully
20:28 wizzyrea bye oleonard
20:28 mbalmer gn8
20:28 wizzyrea depends on your definition of hurt
20:27 chris_n bye
20:27 * oleonard waves goodbye to all
20:27 mbalmer trying to avoid sleeping under bridges in edinburgh, actually.
20:27 cait cookies can hurt???
20:26 wizzyrea is this jeopardy?
20:26 wizzyrea what, are we talking about things we could do/eat that might eventually hurt us?
20:24 mbalmer potatoechips!
20:24 wahanui Cookies are delicious delicacies
20:24 cait cookies?
20:24 wizzyrea fwiw.
20:24 wizzyrea backflips!
20:24 mbalmer fwiw ;)
20:24 chris_n and then "do you still want to"
20:24 wizzyrea are you absolutely positively sure
20:24 mbalmer backquotes!
20:24 chris_n do you really, really want to
20:24 cait triple? quadruple?
20:24 wizzyrea WARNING WARNING WARNING you are deleting all quotes WARNING WARNING WARNING
20:24 cait feels not right to me
20:24 chris_n maybe a double alert?
20:23 chris_n that's what I do when deleting a single quote
20:23 cait I mean... limiting what people can do only because they can do it wrong
20:23 wizzyrea an alert thing would be fine by me
20:23 chris_n I was thinking of doing an alert thing
20:23 cait hm why not have a delete all with an alert?
20:23 wizzyrea 500 or something
20:23 wizzyrea and the option to view outrageous numbers at once
20:22 wizzyrea what about a "select all" checkbox with the option to delete all on that page
20:22 chris_n it sure would save time if, indeed, one wanted to do such a thing
20:21 cait hi rangi
20:21 wizzyrea perhaps name it more ominously "purge all quotes"
20:20 wizzyrea well yea
20:20 * oleonard would think so
20:20 * chris_n wonders if a 'delete all' option in the QOTD editor would be dangerous
20:19 rangi back
20:18 * chris_n scrambles up some css
20:18 cait hi chris_n
20:18 chris_n heya cait
20:09 oleonard Bye jcamins_away
20:09 jcamins_away So long.
20:09 jcamins_away Okay, I'm calling it a day early.
20:07 * jcamins_away will ponder how to do that.
20:07 jcamins_away We should have an optional test to ensure that kohastructure.sql and updatedatabase.pl result in a database with the same structure.
20:05 wizzyrea also a good point. >.>
20:04 oleonard I think rather an import of an older-version borrowers table because kohastructure.sql looks correct
20:04 wizzyrea oh good point
20:04 jcamins_away oleonard: probably another error in kohastructure.sql, since you did a new installation.
20:03 wizzyrea because either I did it wrong, or I'm not seeing your issue
20:03 wizzyrea what problem were you having?
20:02 oleonard borrowers.debarred should be a date now eh?
20:02 oleonard | debarred | tinyint(1) | YES | | NULL | |
20:02 oleonard Ah, I see the problem. I should have checked this first.
20:01 wizzyrea works for me
20:00 wizzyrea sure
19:59 oleonard Can someone please try editing a patron in master and setting the 'restricted' flag with no date?
19:55 mbalmer "I had to choose a password of at least eight characters, so I chose snow white and the seven dwarfs"
19:54 mbalmer did you guys know that the winning entry for the best joke was selected in edinburgh? There was a joke festival there. Dunno the name, but the joke is nice.
19:54 jcamins_away I don't think there's a private conservancy, because I'm pretty sure they share a membership scheme with the other national monuments.
19:53 jcamins_away ("it" being the castle)
19:53 mveron Ok, thanks for the clarification.
19:52 jcamins_away mveron: presumably it's state-owned, but you are correct, the Palace is where she lives.
19:52 mbalmer I will ask her for exact directions.
19:52 rangi Bbiab
19:52 mveron Does the castle belong to the queen? I think her residence is near the Parliament building?
19:50 mbalmer I will ask the queen if we can stay at the castle, after all we host the second best know military tatoo in Basel, right, mveron?
19:49 jcamins_away It's a very pleasant walk up to Old Town.
19:49 jcamins_away (than Pollock)
19:49 jcamins_away I lived a bit further south.
19:49 jcamins_away rangi: that's how I knew.
19:49 * mbalmer envisions mveron staying in a students dorm...
19:49 rangi Yep olugbenga is staying there
19:48 mveron Thanks, jcamins, will have a look.
19:47 jcamins_away (they're dorm rooms, but perfectly acceptable ones)
19:47 jcamins_away Apparently Pollock still had rooms as of a few days ago.
19:46 mbalmer mveron, but we should slowly start to find a hotel… or else we will be bridgeing..
19:45 mbalmer mveron, so you pay 10 bucks and all you get is koha commit messages.. ;)
19:44 rangi And tether that
19:44 rangi I'm just gonna get a sim for my phone
19:43 wizzyrea ok that actually was pretty funny
19:43 * wizzyrea rimshots
19:43 mveron About Hotels in Edinborough, some of them ask £10 extra for 1 day Internet access :-(
19:43 mbalmer an SQL statements enters a bar and sees two tables… "may I join you?"
19:42 wizzyrea ^^ precisely
19:42 oleonard TLAs like "TLA"
19:42 wizzyrea (and in what context)
19:42 wizzyrea never know around here which TLA's people are going to understand ^.^
19:41 mbalmer yes, that far I am informed, but now for the joke….?
19:41 wizzyrea POS also = piece of s***
19:40 mbalmer oleanard, go for it. I never heard a POS printer joke … ;)
19:40 mbalmer in which hotel are most folks staying in edinburgh?
19:40 * oleonard makes a POS printer joke
19:40 wizzyrea oh, and cat byproducts should not smell either.
19:39 mbalmer however, mveron and I discussed and a found a way to print to POS printers. we guess. email to devel@ tomorrow.
19:39 oleonard wizzyrea: I would add "does his business outside" to that list
19:39 wizzyrea as long as you're not keeping the cat in the bin, that's alright.
19:39 oleonard "Whenever the cat wants breakfast" is an awfully expansive definition.
19:38 wizzyrea I'd be in cat heaven.
19:38 wizzyrea now, if they can make one that is hypoallergenic, has fluffy hair but doesn't shed/puke hairballs
19:38 mbalmer the /bin/cat on my Unix is non-allergic, too. ;)
19:38 wizzyrea and myshkin is adorable.
19:38 jcamins_away So are we. We have a wonderful hypoallergenic cat.
19:38 wizzyrea jcamins has a hypoallergenic cat.
19:37 mbalmer <- allergic
19:37 wizzyrea !!
19:37 wizzyrea !
19:37 mbalmer cats are evil..
19:37 wizzyrea :(((
19:37 * rangi is still suffering from stupid headaches but is gonna try work anyway
19:37 mveron Good day- or nighttime, everybody around the world :-)
19:36 wahanui morning is a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast.
19:36 jcamins_away Morning.
19:36 wizzyrea hey rangi
19:35 rangi Morning
19:35 mbalmer does Perl's IO:Socket support IPv6 ?
19:28 mbalmer grumblings..
19:20 mveron Good evening #koha
18:58 jcamins_away That's a good idea.
18:58 * chris_n wonders why jquery's unbind method does not...
18:57 chris_n and then hang lots of nice pictures :)
18:57 * chris_n will add picture rail when remodeling three rooms w/ 12' ceilings in his house
18:57 jcamins_away And picture wire, since a couple of our pictures don't have picture wire.
18:56 chris_n hmm tons of netsplits
18:56 jcamins_away This afternoon I'll buy more nails.
18:56 jcamins_away chris_n: I did not yet, alas.
18:55 * chris_n hands hdl some glue
18:55 chris_n jcamins_away: did you get your picture hung?
18:43 * oleonard will git bisect
18:42 oleonard So something must have happened since to upset things
18:42 oleonard Until not so recently
18:42 jcamins_away Was debarred boolean until fairly recently?
18:42 Oak kia ora #koha
18:41 jcamins_away oleonard: that seems like a big problem.
18:41 * oleonard keels over dead
18:41 oleonard Rhubarb rhubarb fatal circulation error rhubarb rhubarb
18:33 oleonard Looks like it comes from having borrowers.debarred = 1 (instead of a date I presume?)
18:30 oleonard Software error: Usage: Date::Calc::check_date(year, month, day) at /home/oleonard/kohaclone/C4/Members.pm line 462.
18:17 oleonard It was working for me a couple of months ago and now it isn't
18:17 oleonard anyone else tried the offline circ tool lately?
18:10 ArunRV Bye everyone. Thanks for all the help. :-)
18:10 ArunRV Thanks, chris_n - will take a look.
17:48 * chris_n pokes gmcharlt
17:47 wahanui bugs is found at http://bugs.koha-community.org. Please fix any bugs you find. :) or reporting them is helpful, too.
17:47 chris_n bugs?
17:47 wahanui yes, chris_n?
17:47 chris_n wahanui?
17:47 chris_n bug 8000
17:38 chris_n it should be enough to give you a few ideas of what is possible w/o munging up the core code
17:38 chris_n those are few lines from an automated patron import script I wrote some years ago for a client
17:37 chris_n ArunRV: ^^^
17:37 pastebot "chris_n" at 63.162.197.228 pasted "cron-style patron imports" (5 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/365
17:18 cait ArunRV: not sure how good iw tould work for you - but it's perhaps worth checking out :)
17:18 ArunRV Thanks a lot for pointing this out.
17:17 ArunRV That's great! I could simply import precisely the changed record when the update happens on the SCMS. WIll take a look at how it's done.
17:17 cait and tell it what to do when it finds a match - overlay or ignore
17:16 cait you match on a unique elment - cardnumer or something you have defined in patron attributes to be unique
17:16 cait yes
17:16 ArunRV Hmm.. I think that could work. Does the import feature allow updating records as well?
17:14 cait ArunRV: the interface for the koha patron import is in the tools menu
17:14 cait ArunRV: yes, you could reimport the data every night
17:13 ArunRV If there's no ready made solution that caters precisely to this scenario, I'd rather write a small script to do the synching - this was fairly straightforward with Moodle. Was hoping it'd be the same for Koha. :-)
17:09 jwagner You might investigate SIP protocols -- I don't know if there is anything that would allow changing patron data, but there are already some routines in Koha that might be expanded.
17:08 ArunRV I just googled patron import tool - ideally, the synchronization should not be a one time affair. If a student updates his/her password on the SCMS, it should get reflected in Koha as well.
17:06 cait i am not sure if there is a command line script for that yet - but it allows matching on a cardnumber or other id
17:05 cait ?
17:05 cait have you checked if you could perhaps use the patron import tool`
17:05 ArunRV Well. We have a school campus managmheent system - I want to synchronize the user information between that and Koha. LDAP is not an option since the system doesn't support it. My only option is to write some code to hook koha and the scms.
17:03 cait ArunRV: what are you trying to do?
17:03 ArunRV Thanks jwagner, cait and oleonard - will take a look again!
17:02 cait ^^ :)
17:02 oleonard ArunRV: I assume memberentry.pl calls a function in C4/Members.pm
17:02 jwagner Probably Members.pm
17:02 cait ArunRV: I suspet somewhere in the C4 module for patrons
17:01 ArunRV I can see that there is some data sanity checks happening followed by a template output - the code also has an unused $dbh variable. But where is the call to the DB actually made?
17:01 jwagner ArunRV, most patron information is in the borrowers table. There are some related tables for messaging preferences, permissions, etc.
17:00 oleonard Revised (again) fix for Bug 4048 now available
16:58 ArunRV Hello I am trying to understand Koha codebase related to creating/updating patron information. Could someone more familiar with the codebase and perl please point me to the location where the patron data is actually saved to the DB in members/memberentry.pl?
16:38 gaetan_B bye #koha!
16:26 kf bye all
16:25 kf you can try adding more subifields, but not sure it will take all of them into account
16:25 narcisgarcia (subfields 2 6 8 a b)
16:25 narcisgarcia it has "082ab", but the framework shows 082ab268
16:24 kf it can be used as a suggestion when cataloging items
16:24 kf check system preference itemcallnumber
16:24 kf yes
16:22 narcisgarcia 082 can have any relation with the value in itemcallnumber ?
16:16 slef but you might be able to control some of it through hide/show options in the framework editor... sorry I don't have time to look now.
16:15 slef 952 is item-level data, set in Items pages, not in bibliographic record editing
16:13 narcisgarcia 082 is "DEWEY DECIMAL CLASSIFICATION NUMBER"
16:07 narcisgarcia Why Koha adds the 082.* and hides 952.* ?
16:06 narcisgarcia I've made a framework with fields 000, 020.a, 100.a, 245.a, 300.a, 300.c, 440.v, 520.a, 856.u, 942.c, 952.1, 952.4, 952.5, 952.7, 952.a, 952.b, 952.c, 952.d, 952.e, 952.t, 952.v, 952.y but when I use it to "add MARC record", I really see the fields 000, 020.a, 082.2, 082.6, 082.8, 082.a, 082.b, 100.a, 245.a, 300.a, 300.c, 440.v, 520.a, 856.u and no more.
16:03 slef else it would be on the VPN
16:03 slef so it's just not in DNS... not really very private
16:03 slef it's mainly because it's for our testing
16:02 oleonard Thanks
16:02 oleonard It's no big deal slef, if you want to keep it private
16:01 slef I must move our demo to a new server. I've a semi-private demo running master if you can edit /etc/hosts oleonard
15:58 wizzyrea libriotech is running 3.8
15:58 wizzyrea so is equinox's
15:57 wizzyrea hm bywater's is out of date...
15:56 edveal oleonard thanks
15:56 kf oleonard: magnuse - but it's normarc :)
15:55 kf edveal: ok, I misunderstood :( I thought you wanted to change the label - that's what one of my libraries asked for - sorry
15:55 oleonard who's got a demo running master?
15:46 oleonard Try this: $("#masthead_search option[value='ti']").attr("selected","selected");
15:45 wizzyrea apostrophe bug?
15:45 edveal This is a work around for apostrophe bug
15:45 wizzyrea something about using jquery to pick a different default
15:45 kf and yes, I think you can do it with jquery
15:44 kf edveal: what about keyword? that would make it the same as on the advanced search
15:44 edveal I didn't see it but I could have missed it.
15:44 wizzyrea I can't remember
15:44 kf edveal: but title is wrong?
15:44 wizzyrea there might be one in the jquery library that does that
15:44 edveal I would rather not build a custom search bar...
15:44 edveal Anyone have a quick and easy way to change the default search from keyword "Library Catalog" to "Title"
15:42 wizzyrea other things
15:42 wizzyrea and I have a few more things that I've since fixed.
15:41 wizzyrea i'm not as superpro as you are :)
15:41 wizzyrea if you have a minute, look over 7998 for obvious stupidity?
15:40 wizzyrea yay oleonard
15:40 oleonard Surprise 3-hour meeting! But I'm back now.
15:31 wizzyrea pretty good :)
15:31 wizzyrea not so bad really: http://screencast.com/t/Ns9Iqeynhun
15:30 wizzyrea well, 3.9 I guess now >.>
15:30 wizzyrea 3.8
15:30 wizzyrea which reminds me I should see what that looks like in 3.9
15:30 wizzyrea oh sorry there's no intranetfooter, there's intranetmainuserblock
15:28 narcisgarcia Ok, works perfectly with only an HTML <a> tag.
15:25 wizzyrea that or a news item.
15:25 wizzyrea yup, that's probably what I'd do too.
15:24 narcisgarcia I prefer first option (header)
15:23 wizzyrea (4 will be a less beautiful option in 3.8, however)
15:23 wizzyrea 4. use jquery to add it to the list of items currently there.
15:23 wizzyrea 3. create a link in a news item, and display that on the home page of the intranet.
15:23 wizzyrea 2. create a link in the footer using "intranetfooter"
15:22 wizzyrea 1. create a link in the header using the system preference "intranetnav"
15:22 wizzyrea yea, there are a couple of ways to handle that
15:19 narcisgarcia Is it possible to customize links in the home page for librarians? For example "Add item with default framework"
15:13 wizzyrea (I was just teaching the bot these things so I don't have to keep typing it over and over)
15:12 wizzyrea yvw. :)
15:12 ArunRV Thanks wizzyrea and narcisgarcia. You've been of great help!
15:11 wahanui don't use the admin account. Create a new user with login/password, and go to more -> permissions -> and check "superlibrarian." Click save. Then log out and back in with that user.
15:11 wizzyrea using the admin account?
15:11 wahanui Create a new user with login/password, and go to more -> permissions -> and check "superlibrarian." Click save. Then log out and back in with that user.
15:11 wizzyrea creating a superlibrarian?
15:08 wizzyrea log out, log in as that user.
15:08 wizzyrea save it
15:08 wizzyrea click more -> permissions -> check "superlibrarian"
15:08 wizzyrea you create a super librarian by going to the patron detail
15:08 narcisgarcia (and I only have seen the patrons I registered manually)
15:08 wizzyrea no, none of that happens now it's all proposed.
15:07 narcisgarcia I installed a lot of optional components, but I didn't know about any superlibrarian registered.
15:07 wizzyrea yep http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Rfc_3.10_webinstaller_improvements
15:07 narcisgarcia The web installation wizard is too short.
15:06 wizzyrea so some people think they'll be clever and not install the default library, then struggle.
15:06 wizzyrea which I think is weird.
15:06 wizzyrea mostly because we don't create a default library, we offer the *option* to
15:06 wizzyrea yep, it's a problem, there's a push to fix it.
15:06 narcisgarcia The difficult for this is that installer people walks a large path before finding the users creation, its categories and permissions.
15:05 wizzyrea it doesn't *hurt* anything to use the admin user, but operations that require, say, an expiry date or a branch defined won't work with the admin user.
15:05 wizzyrea then you log out, and log back in as that user. :)
15:04 wizzyrea the admin user should be used exactly once - to log in and define first library, create first patron category, with the goal of creating another superlibrarian.
15:04 narciagrcia I was doing everything with the current admin account.
15:04 wizzyrea narciagrcia: exactly.
15:04 wizzyrea it's on the table to fix that - create a separate admin user at install time.
15:03 narciagrcia Except for upgrades, superlibrarians can do everything that does the admin?
15:03 ArunRV Thanks!
15:03 wizzyrea :)
15:03 ArunRV Right. My bad. Won't login as admin user from now on. Lesson learned.
15:02 wizzyrea ^^ what narciagrcia
15:02 wizzyrea strange things happen with the admin user
15:02 narciagrcia installation admin account seems to be hardcoded apart, and it's not a patron.
15:02 wizzyrea only log in with the admin user for upgrades.
15:02 wizzyrea ohh, ArunRV don't log in with the admin user. Create a new staff user and give that user superlibrarians
15:02 narciagrcia I feel that only patrons can login to OPAC.
15:01 narciagrcia I suppose that it cannot be done, but the software doesn't expect this circumstance.
15:01 ArunRV And I can't seem to set the expiry date for admin. Not sure if this is even possible - don't know if the admin is a patron in the koha world.
15:00 narciagrcia When I try to login OPAC with the installation admin account, I get "Software error"
15:00 reiveune bye
14:58 ArunRV No problem with other logins.
14:58 ArunRV Thanks for waiting. Maybe this is a case of RTFM, but the problem seems to happen when I try to log into OPAC using the admin account - is this a valid thing to try?
14:58 narciagrcia Does Koha use the configured item types for the field 952.y, for 942.c or for any of them?
14:56 narciagrcia And for Koha?
14:56 narciagrcia (MARC21)
14:55 wizzyrea hehe is np
14:55 narciagrcia Does someone know which is the difference for MARC between 952.y (Koha item type) and 942.c (itemtype) ?
14:52 ArunRV (quite a few secs, actually..:-)
14:51 ArunRV 1 sec.
14:51 ArunRV ok.. lemme try that.
14:51 wizzyrea make sure you have an expiry date set for your patron?
14:51 wizzyrea then I bet it's data
14:51 ArunRV :-(
14:51 ArunRV still the same error.
14:51 ArunRV I set it to yyyy/mm/dd
14:51 wizzyrea ah well.
14:50 slef wizzyrea: "e's gone orf"
14:47 wizzyrea possibly your patron doesn't have an expiry date?
14:47 wizzyrea I assume your fresh install used at least some of the sample data
14:47 wizzyrea but I wonder if - since kf reported a similar issue, if it is in fact sample data related.
14:46 ArunRV Thanks! 1 sec.
14:46 wizzyrea the pref is "dateformat" and it's under I18n/L10N preferences
14:45 wizzyrea sec
14:45 wizzyrea :) sok
14:45 ArunRV My apologies - relatively new to Koha.
14:45 ArunRV Ah. Where do I set this, please? I couldn't readily find it in Administration -> System Preferences
14:42 wizzyrea ping kf
14:42 wizzyrea is your date preference set to ISO?
14:42 ArunRV I am guessing it's some configuration issue.
14:40 ArunRV koha-3.06.04
14:39 ArunRV 3.6
14:39 wizzyrea what version of koha?
14:34 ArunRV http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6978 seems relevant - any idea how to fix this?
14:34 ArunRV Seems to be the same as this prioblem: http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/2012-01-19#i_871714
14:33 ArunRV Hello all. An issue with a fresh install of koha: when a user logs into the OPAC, they get this error: Date::Calc::PP::Add_Delta_Days(): Date::Calc::Add_Delta_Days(): not a valid date at /usr/share/koha/opac/cgi-bin/opac/opac-user.pl line 115
14:29 GWolverton_ what is the preferred method of running zebrasrv?
14:20 Oak :) okay time to go... be back in 2 hours God willing.
14:17 Oak sweetie? slef?
14:15 mbalmer we (swiss kohaistas) discussed printing to epson thermal line printers in Unix/Linux environments (for which EPSON does not provide printer drivers).
13:58 ArunRV Well, we do have a development installation of Koha - I will play around with it there and see how it goes.
13:55 ArunRV *gulp*
13:54 slef ArunRV: but if you break it, you get to keep both pieces ;)
13:54 slef ArunRV: not as easy, but it's OK for you to do whatever you like, sweetie ;)
13:51 ArunRV Would it be OK to create our own local repository of Git and push /usr/share/Koha to it, and modify it from there?
13:51 ArunRV We didn't install it via git - I think we just downloaded the tar.gz file (if I'm not wrong), and followed the instructions on the koha website.
13:50 ArunRV Ouch.
13:49 jcamins_away ^^ see that document.
13:49 wahanui git is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git
13:49 jcamins_away git?
13:49 jcamins_away You should use git if you're doing any code customizations.
13:49 jcamins_away Yes, but don't make any code changes in a standard installation.
13:48 ArunRV AM I right in saying that all Koha code is (in a standard installation) present in /usr/share/koha?
13:47 ArunRV We had a similar situation with Moodle. The way we got around that was to figure out where users/passwords etc. are created/set in Moodle, and write hooks that basically updated Moodle DB whenever data was entered into our SCMS
13:46 jcamins_away I just couldn't remember exactly who was doing it.
13:46 jcamins_away Yeah, that's what I was thinking of.
13:46 magnuse at least i think that is sso...
13:45 magnuse biblibre is working on shibboleth, i think?
13:45 jcamins_away I believe there's also support for SSO in process, but, again, it's probably not going to be a particularly easy thing to set up.
13:44 jcamins_away ArunRV: you could use LDAP, but it's not going to be simple.
13:44 ArunRV I am thinking we have to write some code to link the SCMS (which is in Rails) and Koha?
13:44 ArunRV What's the best way to achieve this, please?
13:44 vfernandes but no results obtain :/
13:43 vfernandes 099$c date-entered-on-file
13:43 ArunRV Hello. We have a school campus management system that has accounts for all students. We have a Koha installation as well. We'd like to have single-sign-on facility for students into Koha using their SCMS id/password.
13:42 wahanui The 952 field is used by Koha to store item data in MARC21 and is described at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Holdings_data_fields_%289xx%29
13:42 slef wahanui: @marc 952
13:42 slef vfernandes: maybe check if those item fields are indexed by zebra?
13:42 slef </rant>
13:41 slef raileasy bloody ticket price gougers
13:41 vfernandes UNIMARC version
13:41 vfernandes can you tell me how to search by the creation time and by the time last modified?
13:40 vfernandes hi guys
13:35 jcamins_away No.
13:34 narciagrcia There isn't the same kind of permissions for whole patron category?
13:31 narciagrcia Thanks, I didn't find so clear.
13:31 magnuse narciagrcia: http://manual.koha-community.org/3.6/en/patronpermissions.html
13:30 narciagrcia Librarians are registered as patrons (in staff type categories), or there is another way to work with this kind of users?
13:28 narciagrcia Am I leaving some more permissions to set?
13:28 narciagrcia I've registered a "patron", assigned to a patron category of "Staff" type, but Koha doesn't allow it to login to the administration interface.
13:25 narciagrcia Hello everybody.
13:22 * chris_n steps in and out
13:08 Oak okay thanks!
13:08 Oak :( *sigh*
13:08 * jcamins_away too
13:07 kf hm it timed out for me
13:07 magnuse in norway too
13:07 kf it's still loading
13:07 kf hm
13:06 Oak kf if free kindly check if this works? http://111.68.99.242/
13:03 kf hi oleonard
12:29 magnuse kia ora oleonard
12:28 oleonard Hi #koha
12:15 narcisgarcia Thanks.
12:12 magnuse logged in users will see their own stuff, as a default no users can see what others have borrowed
12:11 narcisgarcia Ok, then I can suppose, with the defaults, that if some option is already set to show it's only for logged users.
12:11 magnuse narcisgarcia: that's the default
12:10 narcisgarcia I don't want to anonymous visitors see any patron name in any place.
12:09 jcamins_away It probably depends on the option.
12:08 narcisgarcia I don't completely understand when an option talks about showing or not showinf something in OPAC, if it refers to anyone or to logged users or to self logged user.
12:08 jcamins_away I generally only change sysprefs when there's something I don't like about the way my system is working.
12:08 jcamins_away Ah. I have no idea what that syspref does.
12:06 narcisgarcia (for the major part of options)
12:06 narcisgarcia "the names of patrons that have items checked out or on hold on detail pages or the "Place Hold" screen"
12:06 narcisgarcia In the manual, basically is written the same explanation as in the administration interface.
12:04 jcamins_away narcisgarcia: did you read the manual? If you plan on looking at every single syspref, you'd probably be best served by reading through the manual.
12:03 narcisgarcia (Administration -> System Preferences -> Staff Client preferences -> Options)
12:03 narcisgarcia About HidePatronName: does this affect to public/anonymous view?
12:03 narcisgarcia Ok, thanks.
12:03 magnuse only if you use the hosted option, not for the local option
12:01 narcisgarcia Do Yahoo get statistical data with the use of its libraries, or some other communication?
12:00 magnuse YUI is BSD license, according to Home › About Koha › Licenses
12:00 jcamins_away There's really no reason to change that syspref.
12:00 jcamins_away No, Javascript.
12:00 narcisgarcia Are written in PERL?
11:59 jcamins_away No idea.
11:59 narcisgarcia Which license use?
11:59 jcamins_away narcisgarcia: yes.
11:59 narcisgarcia (Administration -> System Preferences -> Staff Client preferences -> Appearance)
11:58 narcisgarcia About yuipath: Are the Yahoo UI libraries free software?
10:30 francharb oki
10:30 mtj me ask in private :)
10:29 francharb tell me!
10:29 mtj heya francharb, a little question...
10:28 francharb what is it about?
10:28 francharb mtj, 0/
10:28 mtj francharb / hdl - about?
10:04 slef thanks kf
10:04 slef http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7757 Edit basket vendor after it has been created (Failed QA)
10:04 mib_utlihq but in details view things are ok
10:04 mib_utlihq not working means after check out/check in opac does not shows updated record it simply shoes item not available
10:03 wahanui OK, slef.
10:03 slef wahanui: the bug tracker is http://bugs.koha-community.org
10:02 wahanui slef: i don't know
10:02 slef wahanui: the bug tracker?
10:02 slef mib_utlihq: define "not working" but probably not as if there was a serious problem there would be a 3.6.5 including it ready but search the bug tracker
10:02 * slef goes searching
10:01 mib_utlihq in version3.6.4
10:01 mib_utlihq cronejob for zebra-z not working is there any pathc for that
10:00 kf_mtg slef: not yt, there is a patch somewhere I think
10:00 slef kf_mtg: will do. Later.
10:00 kf_mtg sorry, have to run
10:00 kf_mtg s
10:00 kf_mtg slef: try giving yourself all acq permission
10:00 slef Am I right in thinking we cannot move a basket between vendors?
10:00 wahanui superlibrarian is one of the permissions
10:00 slef kf_mtg: superlibrarian
10:00 kf_mtg slef: permissions
09:59 mib_utlihq i get massage hold can not be put, but i saw there was hold finaly
09:59 slef something to investigate later
09:59 slef but it added it anyway
09:59 slef place an item into the basket
09:58 slef I get logged out when I try to place an order in acq
09:58 Oak ah thank you slef ... let me see
09:57 slef ok this is odd
09:52 narcisgarcia Thanks.
09:51 narcisgarcia Ok.
09:51 narcisgarcia (Administration -> System Preferences -> OPAC preferences)
09:51 mib_utlihq yes
09:51 narcisgarcia About OPACShowCheckoutName: If set to True, is it shown to public too?
09:47 slef Oak: may be a nicer way but I like using listservers
09:47 slef Oak: select email from borrowers in a report, drop it into a mailshotter?
09:46 slef anyone got an overview of the current state of ILL in koha?
09:46 wahanui no idea, slef
09:46 slef wahanui: ILL?
09:33 * Oak wondering if it is possible to send an email message to all patrons...
09:32 narcisgarcia It's like a fixed frame.
09:27 Oak not sure
09:27 Oak kidding
09:27 Oak yes you are
09:26 slef I thought it was a drop-down. Am I obsolete again?
09:22 narcisgarcia Language links that don't fit in the bottom bar, aren't available (the bar doesn't scroll)
09:21 narcisgarcia Oops, I made an installation for all the languages, but I see that the bottom list of languages in interface is limited to browser window width.
09:16 akg others cron job are working fine
09:14 akg cronjob for auto indexing with zebra -z is not working in version 3.6
09:08 narcisgarcia (Administration -> System Preferences -> Circulation preferences -> Checkout policy)
09:07 narcisgarcia About AllFinesNeedOverride: if set to "no", means that the override will be automatic?
08:59 Oak magnuse++
08:59 Oak thank you!
08:59 Oak yup
08:59 magnuse Oak: Home › Tools › Notice triggers
08:56 Oak configure them in "Tools" yes?
08:56 akg what difference between deleting the stage imported in catalog record and deleting before importing in catalog stage records
08:56 magnuse then you just configure notices
08:55 magnuse if they should not choose you don't need the checkboxes
08:55 Oak but then users will be able to choose whether they receive overdue notices or not.
08:54 magnuse well, i think you have to set EnhancedMessagingPreferences = Allow to see the checkboxes
08:52 Oak magnuse, a silly question. if EnhancedMessagingPreferences is set to 'Don't allow', then where was the setting (check boxes) for that located? Where i can choose which notices should be sent or not?
08:52 Oak got dc... sending again.
08:52 Oak magnuse, a silly question. if EnhancedMessagingPreferences is set to 'Don't allow', then where was the setting (check boxes) for that located? Where i can choose which notices should be sent or not?
08:51 narcisgarcia I'm having dificulties with the english version. As I understood some installation steps, I added some tips to the wiki, for example.
08:50 narcisgarcia Of course, but first is needed to understand the english librarian country
08:48 mtj narcisgarcia: improvements to the spanish translation of the Koha manual are graciously accepted ;)
08:45 akg what difference between deleting the stage imported in catalog record and deleting before importing in catalog stage records
08:43 magnuse narcisgarcia: getting some input from a pro on how to set things up might be a good idea - Koha is pretty hard core, in a way
08:41 narcisgarcia Note that the spanish translation of the manual is incomplete, and for example there is not the "Implementation Checklist" chapter.
08:40 narcisgarcia First I tried with Invenio, and someone recommended me Koha better.
08:40 narcisgarcia I see that we'll need a professional librarian to make the setup, or look for a simpler application.
08:38 rangi I'm not English either fwiw
08:38 rangi Magnuse is Norwegian, so no
08:38 narcisgarcia Then "authority" refers to data and not to field structure, right?
08:36 narcisgarcia You mean "English library land"
08:36 magnuse narcisgarcia: you are entering a new and strange country now, it's called library land... :-)
08:35 mbalmer good morning!
08:35 narcisgarcia Hello mbalmer
08:35 narcisgarcia In my country, the "authority" term generally means "people with power" or "people with intellectual reputation"
08:35 Oak nah that does not work... hm. i'll keep trying.
08:34 narcisgarcia An abbreviation can be an authority?
08:33 Oak no no i think i found something... the "Renewal due date: " option...
08:33 magnuse Oak: you can set a due date in the past when you issue
08:33 magnuse Oak: you wait... ;-)
08:33 narcisgarcia http://authorities.loc.gov/help/name-auth.htm
08:33 Oak for testing that is
08:33 narcisgarcia "Shakespeare" can be an authority?
08:32 Oak okay now time to check if the overdue notices work or not... i have issued a book. how do i make it's due date expire?
08:32 narcisgarcia Then an authority can be a key word?
08:30 * magnuse greets mtj
08:29 mtj 'Understanding MARC Authority Records'
08:29 mtj narcisgarcia: -> http://www.loc.gov/marc/uma/pt1-7.html#pt4
08:29 rangi You will need to read the manual and then train them then
08:29 * mtj greets the herd
08:28 Oak changed it. cooool. thank you!
08:28 Oak found it magnuse !!
08:28 magnuse Oak: there should never be a need for phpMyAdmin...
08:27 Oak aaah
08:27 narcisgarcia The librarians in the libraries I'm configuring are common people, not professionals.
08:27 magnuse Oak: Home › Tools › Notices & Slips
08:27 Oak phpMyAdmin?
08:27 Oak so I edit the DB?
08:27 magnuse Oak: you need to edit them through the WebUI
08:27 rangi Cataloguers especially
08:27 magnuse Oak: the stuff in intranet/cgi-bin/installer/data/mysql/en/mandatory/sample_notices.sql was loaded into your db when you did the web installation
08:26 rangi No they are well trained informational professionals
08:26 wahanui magnuse: telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
08:26 Oak hmm. magnuse, editing intranet/cgi-bin/installer/data/mysql/en/mandatory/sample_notices.sql had no effect. so it *is* just a sample
08:26 magnuse narcisgarcia: excuse me?
08:25 narcisgarcia (and librarians are common people)
08:25 narcisgarcia Hello reiveune
08:25 reiveune hello
08:25 narcisgarcia I want to make the application begin to produce, to librarians catalog some books and public can see them from internet. No much more.
08:24 narcisgarcia Then "authority" refers to the protocol?
08:23 rangi You might want to do a course in library science, its a big field, authorities aren't specific just to koha
08:23 magnuse narcisgarcia: http://www.loc.gov/marc/uma/
08:22 narcisgarcia Oak, looks like you found only default sample values.
08:22 Oak just the 'en' one
08:22 Oak yup :)
08:22 magnuse Oak: looks like you need to edit some notices
08:21 pastebot "Oak" at 111.68.99.242 pasted "[root@aridkoha var]# cd /usr/s" (13 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/364
08:21 magnuse Oak: it might be hardcoded in notice, see :8080/cgi-bin/koha/tools/letter.pl
08:21 narcisgarcia What means the "Authorities" concept in Koha?
08:20 Oak i think i can grep kohaadmin@yoursite.org
08:19 Oak hmm, that field is already set to my email address
08:19 narcisgarcia Administration -> Global system preferences -> Administration -> Interface options
08:19 magnuse KohaAdminEmailAddress is worth a look
08:18 magnuse :-)
08:18 Oak this is coooool
08:18 Oak hmm let me see
08:18 Oak where??
08:18 magnuse there is a setting for admin emai
08:18 magnuse probably :-)
08:17 Oak where is that coming from? seems like from Koha?
08:17 Oak kohaadmin@yoursite.org
08:17 Oak Koha Administrator
08:17 Oak Thank you,
08:17 Oak If you have any problems or questions regarding your account, please contact your Koha Administrator.
08:17 Oak now question... the mail I received from my Koha server says:
08:17 magnuse yay!
08:17 Oak mail working
08:17 Oak it worked
08:17 wahanui magnuse is afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza.
08:17 Oak magnuse!!!!!
08:07 magnuse narcisgarcia: have a look through the manual, there's tons of good stuff in there :-)
08:05 narcisgarcia I see the global parameter "IndependantBranches" (very interesting for us), but I don't know how to setup branches.
08:04 magnuse narcisgarcia: don't do things as the installation user, do what rangi says :-)
08:04 rangi Also read the chapter on adding staff users
08:02 narcisgarcia Ok, I'll read carefully that manual chapter.
08:01 narcisgarcia I've created user categories and don't know how to allow librarians to catalog.
08:01 narcisgarcia Is only the installation user who can catalog books?
08:00 magnuse narcisgarcia: http://manual.koha-community.org/3.6/en/cataloging.html
07:59 magnuse [off] this is what happens when you piss norwegians off, we sing children's songs at you, real loud :-) http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/25/us-breivik-song-idUSBRE83O0VD20120425
07:59 narcisgarcia Once configured all categories of Koha, I don't know how to enter books.
07:57 magnuse eythian: only a well developed one between my ears :-)
07:57 magnuse hola narcisgarcia
07:56 narcisgarcia Hello!
07:55 eythian magnuse: you don't have adblock?
07:55 Oak cool
07:55 Oak aah
07:54 magnuse Oak: just a friendly tip: http://paste.koha-community.org/ has less commercials :-)
07:54 Oak hmm
07:54 Oak welcome back cait
07:53 magnuse guten morgen kf
07:53 magnuse Oak: try googling "User unknown in local recipient table"?
07:53 kf hi #koha
07:53 Oak this is from /var/log/syslog by the way
07:52 Oak i have installed it, but cannot get email notifications to work: http://pastebin.com/8s2xBBTY
07:51 magnuse Oak: not really - i think last time i tried i pretty much just did "sudo apt-get install postfix", but i might misremember...
07:50 Oak for email notifications
07:50 Oak magnuse, do you know how to set-up postfix for Koha?
07:49 magnuse Oak
07:41 Oak magnuse
07:31 magnuse bonjour gaetan_B
07:28 gaetan_B hii #koha!
07:09 vkm ok
07:09 eythian vkm: you could always ask on the mailing list, not everyone is awake at this time here.
07:08 vkm when restricting search by item book it shows the reference also but there is no reference in 952y field
07:07 vkm but 942c accepts only one which i want to use as a book type material uniformly, but if i use book by default in 942c even the book is reference in 952y field it creates problem in searching
07:06 eythian 942$c is used as more of a default than anything.
07:06 eythian that's not uncommon
07:05 vkm actualy i wanted to use one biblio for many items type
07:04 eythian that kind of thing, I don't think there's a rule.
07:03 eythian If you bought another one, what would it most likely be
07:03 eythian whatever is most appropriate for the situation.
06:58 vkm have defined BK for general book and REF for reference
06:57 vkm than if i have two same book one for reference and one for BooK(general issue) what data should i fill in 942 and 952
06:57 dgl-library Bye for now #koha
06:56 eythian 952y is the item type for a specific item.
06:55 eythian 942c is at the biblio level, and provides the default item type.
06:54 vkm what is difference between 942c field and 952y field
06:53 wahanui please advice is there any other easy and friendly method to do the job on server machine i wanted to implement it in mib_ex6ial's library
06:53 vkm please advice
06:53 vkm so if i will make 942c also reference than it will work fine but loose uniformity of Book in 942c
06:52 vkm if i search for reference it pics only reference
06:51 vkm 942c must be equal to 952y in my case but for searching book type only it does not
06:50 vkm there is two option either not to make 942 mandatory or not to use book if it contain item reference only etc
06:50 eythian You could write a script that sets 942$c to be equal to whatever the item type really is.
06:49 vkm but i used book in 942c uniformly at the time of importin so when i search by item type book only it sows reference also
06:48 julian_m hi
06:48 vkm biblio contain only reference item
06:47 vkm =942 \\$cBK =952 \\$aMAIN$bMAIN$p5683$yREF$o621.8002 O15M
06:47 magnuse sorry probably not
06:47 vkm probably you resolve my problem
06:47 magnuse hiya vkm
06:47 vkm magnuse hi
06:46 magnuse kia ora #koha!
06:41 Oak morning francharb
06:36 marcelr hi francharb
06:35 francharb morning #koha
06:33 marcelr hi Oak
06:31 Oak hello marcelr
06:31 vkm above are my problems please advice
06:30 vkm but i wanted to use book as a common item/material type
06:30 marcelr hi koha
06:30 vkm i think if there is no Book in 952y field than i have to use item REF/BB/RS etc. in 942c so searching by book only will not pick the data from 942c field
06:27 vkm 942c is common than used 952y for each item type
06:27 vkm please above my record structures in marc format i used for importing
06:26 vkm =942 \\$cBK =952 \\$aMAIN$bMAIN$p1000$yBK$o621.3 KNO =952 \\$aMAIN$bMAIN$p663$yBK$o621.3 KNO
06:26 vkm =942 \\$cBK =952 \\$aMAIN$bMAIN$p1271$yREF$o621.01 MAN =952 \\$aMAIN$bMAIN$p1564$yRB$o621.01 MAN
06:26 vkm =942 \\$cBK =952 \\$aMAIN$bMAIN$p5683$yREF$o621.8002 O15M
06:25 vkm when i limit search by Boo it also shows reference because for reference item in field 952y i used Book in field 942c uniformly for all the records at the time of importing
06:24 vkm somebody told me it is bug
06:24 vkm searching my problem is searching in opac
06:23 Oak Amit_Gupta, any Z39.50 servers' details you can provide from India... that have Management Sciences LPE / Indian Editions of foreign books
06:23 dgl-library vkm: but do not change the Default framework
06:23 dgl-library vkm: if it's bothering you, go into Subfields and make it hidden
06:21 eythian I'm not really capable of helping you with that though.
06:20 wahanui eythian: that doesn't look right
06:20 eythian change how zebra is searching, perhaps, so it excludes 942?
06:19 vkm than advice what to do
06:18 alex_a bonjour
06:18 eythian vkm: removing mandatory from a koha internal field is probably a very bad idea.
06:17 dgl-library I am in HP, and you?
05:57 Amit_Gupta from where?
05:56 dgl-library Amit_Gupta: I am also in India
05:54 vkm so can i remove 942c from all my records bcz 952y already contains item information, and can i remove mandatory from 942c?
05:54 Amit_Gupta ?
05:54 Amit_Gupta dgl-library are you also from india
05:54 dgl-library so am I
05:53 Amit_Gupta ..
05:53 Amit_Gupta heya dgl-library ya i m in india
05:53 Amit_Gupta heya dg-library
05:52 cait Judit: sorry
05:52 dgl-library hi amit, are you here in india?
05:52 Judit hi
05:52 Judit also in items, 952y is pointing to itemtype
05:51 Amit_Gupta heya cait, Judit
05:51 Judit and i never said to change that
05:51 cait it seems more safe to just not make the field mandatory perhaps
05:51 Judit but he wants to
05:51 Judit yes i know
05:51 cait Judit: I think I would be very careful changing that
05:51 Judit in biblioitems, 942c is pointing to itemtype
05:50 Judit go there
05:50 Judit Koha to MARC Mapping
05:49 vkm can i ignore item type in field 942c
05:49 Oak hello dgl-library :)
05:49 dgl-library TÄ“nÄ koe Oak
05:49 Judit sorry vkm i cannot help you
05:48 Oak kia ora #koha
05:48 dgl-library cait: thanks! found it.
05:48 Oak morning cait :)
05:48 cait morning Oak
05:47 cait dgl-library: the file should be in the same directory you ran the command in
05:46 Judit the itemtype tells you wjat it is, right?
05:46 vkm but if i use restrict by Book it gives all item result i noticed
05:46 Judit what do you need the information in 942 for?
05:46 dgl-library mtj: I successfully entered the backup commands "mysqldump -u kohaadmin -p koha > mydatadump.sql" … where is that backup stored?
05:46 vkm if restrictes search by reference than result is fine only reference
05:45 vkm yes everything ok
05:45 Judit do you have itemtypes set up for reference and reserve?
05:44 vkm because may be Book i used in 942c even the biblio contain only reference
05:44 vkm at searching in opac when restricting by Book item it shows reference item also
05:43 vkm e.g Book in 942 than if 3 copy of book we divided it as reference, reserve and again book in 952y
05:42 Judit 952y is the itemtype field in koha bydefault
05:42 vkm yes
05:42 Judit and in 952 you have an "extended" itype
05:42 vkm yes commonly used in all recor at the time of importing
05:41 Judit vkm, so you have itype in 942c
05:41 wahanui mailing lists are at http://koha-community.org/support/koha-mailing-lists/
05:41 cait mailing lists?
05:40 vkm from where i can get mail of relevant peoples please tell me
05:40 vkm sorry but i am new to system but trying to implement koha in a big organisation
05:40 renren_28 ok thanks i will
05:39 cait you could try to write an email to the list with all necessary informationa nd examples what you want to do
05:39 cait vkm: I think repeating the same question here again and again will not make people help you
05:38 vkm i used 942$c commonly for item BOOK (BK) in all records at the time of importing data and used 952 for separating item types like reference etc, but in searching when i restrict by Book it shows reference also, please advice what to do can i remove field 942$c because field 952 already contain information about each item type??
05:38 dgl-library and then install virtualbox on that debian OS in the normal way. fewer problems.
05:38 dgl-library here's my suggestion: if you prefer to do things via virtualbox, download the virtualbox image of Debian Lenny from http://downloads.sourceforge.net/virtualboximage/debian-5.0-x86.7z
05:37 renren_28 do u have ym dgl-library?
05:36 renren_28 philippines
05:35 dgl-library renren_28: that's good, because we had endless problems with the unconfigured version. unfortunately very few people in this group use the virtual appliance, so if I were you I wouldn't mention the virtual appliance when asking your questions. btw, what country are you in?
05:34 renren_28 the configured version
05:34 dgl-library renren_28: right, but you downloaded the koha virtual appliance, right? there are 2 versions: "configured" and "unconfigured" … which one do you have?
05:33 renren_28 im using the virtual box
05:32 renren_28 same result
05:32 renren_28 same version
05:32 dgl-library renren_28: I tried using the koha virtual appliance and had nothing but problems. are you using the configured or unconfigured version?
05:31 dgl-library eythian: thanks. found it.
05:31 renren_28 please help me
05:31 renren_28 Usage: Core
05:31 renren_28 Version: 1.03
05:31 renren_28 •Modern::Perl
05:31 renren_28 Usage: Core
05:31 renren_28 Version: 0.09
05:31 renren_28 help me guy with this error •DateTime::Format::ICal
05:30 renren_28 i have a question on my koha virtual appliance
05:30 vkm i used 942$c commonly for item BOOK (BK) in all records at the time of importing data and used 952 for separating item types like reference etc, but in searching when i restrict by Book it shows reference also, please advice what to do can i remove field 942$c because field 952 already contain information about each item type??
05:29 vkm hi
05:29 renren_28 hi guys
05:29 vkm i used 942$c commonly for item BOOK (BK) in all records at the time of importing data and used 952 for separating item types like reference etc, but in searching when i restrict by Book it shows reference also, please advice what to do can i remove field 942$c because field 952 already contain information about each item type??
05:29 vkm hello answer please
05:24 vkm yes
05:24 Judit canyou search and find the records
05:23 vkm what need to be done before importing to browse options
05:23 vkm after importing the records i could not search by author, subject browse options
05:09 vkm hello koha users seeking help please
05:06 vkm please advice what to do can i remove field 942$c because field 952 already contain information about each item type??
05:05 vkm i used 942$c commonly for item BOOK (BK) in all records at the time of importing data and used 952 for separating item types like reference etc, but in searching when i restrict by Book it shows reference also
05:00 Amit_Gupta heya eythian, mtj
04:33 eythian dgl-library: your password is in your koha-conf.xml
04:26 dgl-library mtj: never mind, that didn't work either
04:26 dgl-library mtj: so if I do it without -p, I'm not asked for my password, but I still get all the same info?
04:23 eythian but should be elsewhere too
04:23 eythian I think it's documented on the package wiki page
04:23 dgl-library eythian: thanks, I found the backups you were talking about. very useful to know about! I didn't see /var/spool/koha mentioned in http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Backing_up_Koha
04:22 mtj yep, all those details are in the .conf file
04:21 dgl-library mtj: but you were on to something… I realized koha is not the db name!
04:21 mtj -p koha != -pkoha
04:21 mtj -p is 'prompt for password'
04:21 dgl-library mtj: it asks for the password in a dialogue after that :)
04:21 mtj ah, yep ;)
04:20 eythian mtj: you're reading the command wrong
04:20 mtj dgl-library: i guess 'koha' is not your password
04:19 eythian /var/spool/koha
04:19 dgl-library mtj: thanks, I'll check
04:19 dgl-library eythian: where are those backups stored?
04:19 eythian If it's not working, then they don't match.
04:19 mtj dgl-library look in your koha-xml.conf file - for the user/password
04:18 eythian however, your command should work provided the username, password, and database name match your koha config.
04:18 eythian dgl-library: if you installed Koha from the debian packages, then backups are made for you automatically.
04:17 dgl-library eythian: I don't know what that means. where do I start? koha's staff client is up and running.
04:17 dgl-library I was trying mysqldump -u kohaadmin -p koha > mydatadump.sql … but it didn't like my username/password combination
04:17 Judit :)
04:17 eythian run koha from the packages and it just happens
04:16 dgl-library eythian: how do I make those backups?
04:13 mtj eythian++ even better :)
04:12 eythian dgl-library: I just use the backups that the koha-common package makes.
04:12 mtj $ mysqldump mydb > mydb.sql
04:11 mtj dgl-library: just use mysqldump
04:11 dgl-library Anybody here have experience successfully backing up the database? I'm having a problem.
04:07 dgl-library Hi #koha
04:00 vkm So please advice me what to do to handle this problem? May i remove all field 942$c because 952 already contain information about each item type? Please see below my record structure and also let me know any solution/patch for auto indexing through cronjob.
04:00 vkm Dear Vimal, I am using field 942$c commonly for BOOK (BK) item in my all records and making dividing items like reference book (REF), Reserve book (RB), Book bank (BB) in field 952. But when restricting the search in OPAC by Book only it shows also records which contain reference items only in field 952 which may be because of field 942$c where Book is ente
03:40 Amit_Gupta heya bag
03:03 druthb o/
01:55 mtj s/see/see what/
01:55 mtj .. ive always been curious to see functionality it offers
01:54 mtj meh, ok :)
01:54 eythian I don't either
01:53 mtj eythian might?
01:53 mtj hmm, i dont... :/
01:53 mtj heya Judit
01:52 Judit do you know any Koha library with Library Thing's Library Anywhere app working?
01:40 jcamins_away Nope.
01:34 * chris_n wanders off in search of sleep
01:15 * chris_n wonders if jcamins_away found his nail
01:14 jcamins_away rangi, excellent, I hopwd you would.
01:12 mtj actually, i lie.... i *have* attempted to understand it - and i can't
01:10 mtj http://yro.slashdot.org/story/12/04/25/0011226/schmidt-testifies-android-did-not-use-suns-ip
01:09 mtj ... i cant even be bothered attempting to understand it
01:08 mtj man, this oracle/google java case in the tech news is beyond belief :/
01:05 chris_n mtj: I downloaded all 3.2G of it last evening hoping to pound koha with it a bit :)
00:36 mtj ... could be a nice easy speed win
00:35 mtj aah, its not for debugging, but does actual optimization before sending to browser
00:35 mtj "mod_pagespeed is an open-source Apache module that automatically optimizes web pages and resources on them. Optimization is done by rewriting the resources using filters that implement web performance best practices. Webmasters and web developers can use mod_pagespeed to improve the performance of their web pages when serving content with the Apache HTTP Server."
00:32 mtj http://www.modpagespeed.com/
00:32 mtj https://developers.google.com/speed/pagespeed/download#mod_pagespeed
00:31 mtj ooh, mod_pagespeed plugin for apache - looks helpful for Koha performance debugging