Time Nick Message 23:43 Judit good morning 23:38 mtj wow... 'Harvard plans also to eventually include circulation data on the items as well' 23:37 mtj http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/04/24/harvard-releases-big-data-for-books/?pagemode=print 23:37 ronald heya mtj 23:37 mtj 'April 24, 2012 – The Harvard Library announced it is making more than 12 million catalog records from Harvard’s 73 libraries publicly available.' 23:36 mtj heya ronald :) 23:36 mtj http://isites.harvard.edu/icb/icb.do?keyword=k77982&pageid=icb.page498373 23:35 mtj anyone spotted this?... -> http://openmetadata.lib.harvard.edu/ 23:19 * jcamins_away goes off in search of a nail that he almost certainly doesn't own. 23:18 jcamins_away Because if you don't have lots of extra, you will be lacking the one tiny piece of metal you need to finish something. 23:17 jcamins_away This is why. 23:17 jcamins_away I always wondered, growing up, why my father had a toolbox full of screws and nails that he never used. 23:16 * jcamins_away finds a 30lb hook, discovers that he doesn't have any matching nails. 23:04 wahanui eythian: bugger all, i dunno 23:04 eythian wahanui: oh, so you're talking to me now, huh? 23:04 wahanui hi, eythian 23:04 eythian hi 22:39 chris_n paul_p will have his work cut out when he gets back :-) 22:39 chris_n wizzyrea++ #I'll squash and sign off later this evening 20:35 cait :) 20:34 wizzyrea cait: http://screencast.com/t/F0Zz19d6X 20:34 wizzyrea oh I see why 20:32 wizzyrea and the border on the search header 20:32 wizzyrea the border on refine 20:32 wizzyrea interestingly the definition of those things are exactly the same 20:32 cait so people could apply a new color scheme very easy 20:32 cait hi kathryn :) 20:32 wizzyrea hi kathryn :) 20:31 kathryn Morning all : ) 20:31 cait not needing so much tinkering 20:31 cait simplyfying changes like that 20:31 cait so we can change the color of things with a few css statements 20:31 cait is us using more classes 20:31 wizzyrea well, I think 20:31 cait what I would ike to see 20:31 cait the line around the refine search seems a bit different than the lin eon the dop of the search? 20:31 wizzyrea i feel a bit funny tinkering with the look of the intranet >.> 20:30 cait yep I like 20:30 wizzyrea and the roundy corners. 20:30 wizzyrea and the slight border around the blue 20:30 cait or the ronded edges? 20:29 cait the blue? 20:29 wizzyrea cait: ok? http://screencast.com/t/VksHWdS7iK4 20:29 wizzyrea chris_n++ 20:28 wizzyrea later :) 20:28 chris_n gotta run, bbl 20:28 wizzyrea yea for sure, that would be so nice. 20:27 chris_n themeroller would be nice because one can create one's own theme and apply it easily as well as sharing and maintaining an easy upgrade path 20:26 wizzyrea ty :) 20:26 wizzyrea YAY 20:26 chris_n k, all signed off and squashed into one 20:23 wizzyrea the others were too 20:23 cait wizzyrea++ :) 20:23 cait oh :) 20:23 wizzyrea there cait, that's for you :) 20:23 wizzyrea http://screencast.com/t/iYPipiX0vVz 20:23 wizzyrea i found some places that need borders that don't have them. 20:23 wizzyrea sure - I suspect that I'll have another omnibus here in a bit 20:22 cait nice :) 20:22 chris_n shall I sign off on the third as well? 20:19 * chris_n likes to see all of the bz tabs open in wizzyrea's browser 20:19 * wizzyrea giggles 20:19 chris_n why did I read 'Acevedo' as 'Avocado'? 20:18 wizzyrea (do note I didn't fix *everything* there that I might like to) 20:18 wizzyrea http://screencast.com/t/YJUM04jksOZ 20:17 wizzyrea http://screencast.com/t/ew8Qw761ne 20:17 chris_n do, done, did 20:16 wizzyrea sec 20:16 wizzyrea :) 20:16 cait screenshots? :) 20:14 wizzyrea it looks snappy. :) 20:14 wizzyrea my personal favorite part of this patch is the blue toolbar and the blue menu divs 20:13 wizzyrea if you want 20:13 wizzyrea feel free to squash those 20:13 wizzyrea but we can make it bigger if necessary 20:13 wizzyrea the header may still wrap with long translations :/ 20:12 * wizzyrea cheers 20:12 * chris_n signs off 20:12 chris_n I was thinking the button would look good rounded as well 20:12 chris_n you must be a mind reader 20:11 wizzyrea yup it's on top of the first 20:11 chris_n and get the other patch? 20:11 wizzyrea sure 20:11 chris_n wizzyrea: can I just git bz again? 20:10 wizzyrea nice. 20:10 wizzyrea ohh 20:10 chris_n camelcased is probably more readable in this case 20:10 cait mveron: I think more are camelcased than not - so I would perhaps go with that 20:10 chris_n wizzyrea: http://jqueryui.com/themeroller/ 20:09 * wizzyrea is not familiar with themeroller 20:09 magnus_afk themeroller++ 20:09 mveron Question about naming conventions (CamelCase) in Sysem Preferences: I see 'IntranetUserCSS' and 'intranetuserjs'. Should new prefs be CamelCased? 20:09 wizzyrea for the round corners 20:09 wizzyrea chris_n: see the followup I just attached to the bug 20:07 chris_n this really makes me want every page reworked... but switching to jQuery would allow us to use themeroller 20:06 chris_n round++ #rather 20:06 chris_n rount++ 20:06 mveron Good evening #koha 20:06 wizzyrea yes, probably :) 20:06 * chris_n does not want much... ;-) 20:06 chris_n wizzyrea: can we round the corners of the text field in the search bar? 20:05 wizzyrea sure thing anytime 20:05 narcisgarcia And thanks for all the help 20:05 wizzyrea ah later :) 20:05 narcisgarcia Good bye. 20:05 narcisgarcia Oh, I must leave. 20:05 wizzyrea just a typo I think 20:05 chris_n looks *very* nice now 20:05 chris_n yeah, the purple was bit outlandish 20:04 wizzyrea I was working, and squashed them all together 20:04 chris_n k 20:04 wizzyrea only one now 20:04 chris_n wizzyrea: one patch or more? 20:04 narcisgarcia Sorry; I can create categories, not types. 20:03 narcisgarcia I see the possibility to create patron types, but not patron categories. Are the same concept in Koha? 20:02 wizzyrea I don't think I broke anything spectacularly. 20:02 chris_n wizzyrea: I'll git bz it now 20:02 narcisgarcia And we have public libraries with also private area for private books. 20:01 chris_n sorry for so boring an explanation :-) 20:01 wizzyrea the distinctions are arbitrary and defined by you 20:01 narcisgarcia We don't distinct in age of users. 20:01 chris_n opps 20:01 chris_n wizzyrea: well... I was just pulling my hair out trying to adjust some css for my datatables when bz emailed me about that bug 20:01 wizzyrea besides the obvious "you got email pertaining to the subject" 20:00 wizzyrea lol how did you know 20:00 cait narcisgarcia: normally it's more like students, teachers, adults, childs 20:00 wizzyrea well yes :) 20:00 * chris_n looks at bug 7998 20:00 chris_n css time? 20:00 chris_n wizzyrea: here 19:59 narcisgarcia I this the place where we can classify anonymous users, autoregistered users, and affiliated users, for example? 19:58 narcisgarcia (or can?) 19:58 narcisgarcia Does this affect to user rights? 19:57 narcisgarcia PATRONS: I understand that are users categories, right? 19:56 wizzyrea chris_n: about? 19:48 wizzyrea neat. 19:48 cait or in one city... region, whatever 19:48 cait like grouping libraries on one campus 19:48 cait in advanced search you can search for more tan one branch that way 19:47 cait wizzyrea: I think the search groups actually work 19:46 narcisgarcia I've already defined tho search groups: public and private. 19:46 narcisgarcia In the translation to spanish and french, branches doesn't exist. 19:46 wizzyrea and they are defined in the same way. 19:46 wizzyrea just think of branches the same way you think of libraries. 19:46 wizzyrea it's only half implemented and mostly not working - we should tear it out. 19:46 narcisgarcia But branches I don't know and I don't find. 19:45 narcisgarcia Groups, I understand as a name for more than one library near or related. 19:45 wizzyrea don't worry about groups 19:45 narcisgarcia Libraries, I understand as a physical building 19:45 narcisgarcia (Basic parameters) Libraries, branches, groups 19:44 narcisgarcia Another question: 19:40 narcisgarcia Ok. 19:38 wizzyrea ^^ 19:38 cait I think the only important thing is: itemtypes are used for circulation rules, collectons and locations only for searching 19:38 wizzyrea so you don't really have two, you have 3 19:38 cait narcisgarcia: you can use all those differently 19:38 narcisgarcia But then I'll need to find a classification for genres 19:37 wizzyrea right, I think you want to use a combination of item type and collection code 19:37 narcisgarcia (because it could be an inifinite type list) 19:37 wizzyrea collection code is more like genre 19:36 narcisgarcia What I cannot do is videoCD, videoDVD, videoTAPE, videoFILE, videoBLURAY, textPOSTER, textBOOK, textFILE, etc.. 19:36 wizzyrea I think of it like itemtypes are "types of things" - book, dvd 19:35 narcisgarcia Well, for the moment the supports similarity is good for me. 19:35 cait loan period, if there is a rental charge, how many renewals, ... 19:34 cait yes 19:34 narcisgarcia Circulation is referred to how the (books) move between libraries and personas? 19:34 cait and it's normally causing confusion, because people think itemtypes mean it has to be books, cd, dvd... etc., but it hasn't 19:34 cait so that is important and worth some thoughts 19:34 cait for circulation 19:34 cait yes, bcause later your rules depend on it 19:33 narcisgarcia In the Newbie guide says that this is a main configuration step. 19:33 cait for example we are using variations of: normal, reference, short loan 19:33 cait you should choose your itemtypes according to your circulatoin rules 19:33 narcisgarcia For the moment, I'm setting as item types only the Support. 19:33 cait not really itemtypes 19:33 jcamins You can specify whichever item types you want. 19:33 cait itemtypes define circulation rules 19:32 narcisgarcia I was defining item types. 19:32 jcamins http://www.loc.gov/marc/umb/ 19:32 jcamins Okay, you should read... 19:32 cait and Koha will show it and generate nice icons 19:32 jcamins You'll want to read about whichever flavor of MARC you are using. 19:32 narcisgarcia I selected MARC21. 19:32 cait it's coded into the bibliographic record 19:31 cait what jcamins said 19:31 jcamins narcisgarcia: that's described in the 008 field if you're using MARC21, and a different field if you're using UNIMARC. 19:31 narcisgarcia Is it possible with Koha to have this separation? 19:31 narcisgarcia Format: text, audio, video, drawing, photo, etc. 19:30 narcisgarcia Support: paper, optical, tape, computer file, etc. 19:30 narcisgarcia We have two classifications for item tymes: support and format. 19:30 narcisgarcia I'm still configuring my new Koha installation, and, of course, I've waited for this moment to ask some... 19:28 narcisgarcia It influences over pleasure. 19:28 narcisgarcia Then it has been much productive. 19:28 jcamins True. 19:28 jcamins lol 19:28 narcisgarcia He, he. Would be less pleasant if you didn't survive. 19:28 jcamins cait: true. 19:28 cait :) 19:28 cait jcamins: we had longer less productive irc meetings 19:27 jcamins narcisgarcia: I don't know about pleasant, but we survived it. ;) 19:27 narcisgarcia Oh, I hope this meeting has been productive and pleasant. 19:26 cait bye slef 19:26 wizzyrea I can't even begin to understand that statement 19:26 slef thanks everyone... I may be back later if I can 19:25 jcamins lol 19:25 slef cait: yep 19:25 slef and the prize for most surprising statement of the meeting goes to thd! 19:25 cait :) 19:25 cait #endmeeting ? 19:24 cait #info next meeting is next Wednesday, 18:00 UTC 19:24 thd wahanui: Is druthb in your menu as edible? 19:24 slef next meeting is next Wednesday, 18:00 UTC 19:24 slef no some names I don't recognise 19:24 cait #topic Next Meeting 19:23 cait i think probably the usual suspects so far? :) 19:23 slef which is what I'd expect before papers are announced 19:23 slef rest are dual 19:23 slef 11 conference-only 19:23 cait misread 19:23 cait ah, hackfest only 19:23 wahanui well, mine is very good at reminding me of druthb's place on the food chain. 19:23 cait mine? 19:22 cait oh? 19:22 slef only one hackfest-only registration so far 19:22 slef more at both than not 19:22 cait i can agree to that too :) 19:21 thd I agree with cait except as slef wrote "not exclusively". 19:21 slef cait: ooh let me look 19:21 slef but not exclusively... would like to encourage interaction between libs and devs 19:21 cait slef: what's your impression from the registrations - are people staying for both? 19:20 slef probably a slight bias to that, yes 19:20 cait I wonder if we should push the more technical ones on the 3rd day 19:20 thd Non-librarian oriented technical discussions may not be the best idea as the first presentation of the day. 19:20 cait #action cait suggest a hackfest schedule to be discussed - perhaps some variatons 19:19 cait #action slef suggest a draft schedule for conf if he can make time 19:19 cait i will do the same for the hackfest if that's ok 19:19 thd Technical presentations should not dominate any non-developer days. 19:18 slef I'll probably suggest a draft schedule to next meeting, if I can make time next Wednesday 19:18 cait thd: I feel 5 from same organisation si really bit much - combining them would be good in my opinion 19:18 thd s/three/multiple/ 19:18 jcamins thd: even more so with five presentations by the same group! 19:17 thd If there may be three presentations by one party, that party should probably not dominate on any one day. 19:17 slef any questions before we move to next and final topic? 19:16 slef thanks for all your help in that marathon! 19:16 slef ok, fuller details will be uploaded to the web soon 19:16 slef tajoli@cilea 19:15 slef I'll just look up who that linking records one is 19:15 slef ok, that's the queue processed 19:15 slef That'll teach me to rush the abstract through at the last minute! And I'm not going to vote on that one, sorry. 19:15 cait $makingKohaBetter = [ A=> Y, B=> medium, C=> maybe shorten?, ask for better description?, D=> ? ]; 19:14 thd $makingKohaBetter = ['A'=>'Y', 'B'=>'high', 'C'=> 'no', 'D'=>'mixed']; 19:14 cait I have an idea who that is - so I guess it will be available 19:14 jcamins (and I read the abstract) 19:14 jcamins I have no idea what this last one is about. 19:14 slef $makingKohaBetter ? 19:14 slef cait: I wonder how much source code is available. The scraping-to-z39.50 is particularly interesting. 19:14 cait aah 19:13 jcamins cait: they talk about scraping scripts, but it's unclear whether the source for the scripts will be shared. 19:13 wahanui well, kf is cait or really, really sweet. or <reply>she gives me memory loss or a holds expert. 19:13 cait hm kf? 19:13 wahanui That's Ms. Cait to you! or in a very good mood today :) 19:13 cait cait? 19:13 cait isn't that what happens in school too? 19:13 slef poor wahanui! 19:13 slef awww he gives a correct answer and gets brainwashed 19:13 cait now I am even more confused 19:13 cait ?? 19:12 jcamins cait: it should be provided. 19:12 wahanui cait: I forgot source 19:12 cait wahanui: forget source 19:12 slef cait: see wahanui 19:12 wahanui hmmm... source is published you should be able to see it 19:12 cait slef: source? 19:12 slef $makingKohaBetter ? 19:12 cait $metadata = [ A=> Y, B=> high C=> none, D=> both ]; 19:12 thd $metadata = ['A'=>'Y', 'B'=>'high', 'C'=> 'no', 'D'=>'mixed']; 19:11 slef $metadata = [ A=> Y, B=> medium, C=> source?, D=> developers? ]; 19:11 jcamins $metadata=[A-Y,B-high,C-none,D-both?] 19:11 cait reading 19:10 slef $metadata ? 19:10 cait $needMoreInfo = [ A=> Y, B=> high, C=> maybe-lengthen?, D=> librarians]; 19:10 thd $needMoreInfo = ['A'=>'Y', 'B'=>'high', 'C'=> 'unknown', 'D'=>'mixed']; 19:10 slef $needMoreInfo = [ A=> Y, B=> high, C=> maybe-lengthen?, D=> librarians]; 19:09 cait $needMoreInfo = [A-Y,B-high,C-none,D-librarians] 19:09 slef cait: I believe in miracles... and I think I'll stop there 19:08 cait we agreed :) 19:08 cait yay! 19:08 slef $needMoreInfo ? 19:08 thd $developingCountry = ['A'=>'Y', 'B'=>'high', 'C'=> 'no', 'D'=>'mixed']; 19:08 cait $developingCountry=[A-Y,B-high,C-none,D-both] 19:08 slef $developingCountry = [A=> Y, B=> high, C=> no, D=> both]; 19:07 jcamins $developingCountries=[A-Y,B-high,C-none,D-both] 19:07 wahanui slef: huh? 19:07 slef wahanui: swine! 19:07 wahanui yeah that one is populated 19:07 slef cait: yeah that one 19:07 jwagner Sorry, I was pulled away on a problem, doesn't look like you need me, though.... 19:07 cait slef: migration heuristics 19:07 slef $developingCountry ? 19:06 thd $migrating = ['A'=>'Y', 'B'=>'high', 'C'=> 'unknown', 'D'=>'mixed']; 19:06 slef first being the 10 tips? 19:06 cait $migrating=[A-Y,B-=>medium, C-Try to avoid overlap with the first,D-librarians] 19:05 jcamins $migrating=[A-Y,B-medium-high,C-Try to avoid overlap with the first,D-librarians] 19:05 slef $migrating = [ A=> Y, B=> high, C=> no, D=> librarians ]; 19:05 slef $migrating ? 19:05 slef unless they're that scary 19:05 slef so vote if you like 19:04 slef but this is why it's blind 19:04 slef now I wonder who it was by :) 19:04 * jcamins recuses himself because he could not in good conscience vote for a paper by one of the people who might have proposed this, but would definitely vote for a paper by anyone else. 19:04 slef $linkingRecords = [A=> Y, B=> medium, C=> no, D=> mixed]; 19:03 cait $linkingRecords = [ A => Y, B => medium, C =>'none', D => Librarians ]; 19:03 thd $linkingRecords = ['A'=>'Y', 'B'=>'high', 'C'=> 'unknown', 'D'=>'mixed']; 19:02 slef $linkingRecords ? 19:02 slef $wayToGo = [A=>Y, B=>medium, C=>'unsure maybe combine with others from GDC', D=>librarians]; 19:01 thd $wayToGo = ['A'=>'Y', 'B'=>'medium', 'C'=> 'unknown', 'D'=>'librarians']; 19:00 cait $wayToGo = [ A => Y, B => Low, C => "combine with others from GDC ", D => Librarians ]; 19:00 mle_ ¬¬ 19:00 jcamins $wayToGo = [ A => Y, B => Low, C => "Combine with others from GDC", D => Librarians ]; 18:59 slef $wayToGo ? 18:59 thd $languageCentres = ['A'=>'Y', 'B'=>'medium', 'C'=> 'unknown', 'D'=>'mixed']; 18:59 cait $languagecentres = [ A => Y, B => medium-high, C => "noC", D => mixed ]; 18:58 slef $languageCentres = [A=>Y, B=>high, C=>no, D=>mixed]; 18:58 jcamins languageCentres=[A-Y,B-medium,C-no,D-both?] 18:58 slef $languageCentres ? 18:57 slef $recordsClerk = [A=>Y, B=>low, C=>no, D=>librarians]; 18:57 cait $recordsClerk = [ A => Y, B => Low, C => "PLZ combine with others from GDC ", D => Librarians ]; 18:56 jcamins chris_n: oh, yeah. 18:56 thd $recordsClerk = ['A'=>'Y', 'B'=>'medium', 'C'=> 'unknown', 'D'=>'mixed']; 18:56 chris_n slef: pasting in channel 18:56 wahanui slef: excuse me? 18:56 slef wahanui: I KNOW THAT</kenneth-williams> 18:56 wahanui release maintainer for 3.2, 3.4, and 3.6. or late on 3.6.5 18:56 slef chris_n? 18:56 jcamins This is four, because number five is later. 18:56 chris_n looks like it was a 'ctl-v' type morning 18:56 slef yep 18:56 cait is that number 5? 18:55 cait wow again 18:55 jcamins $recordsClerk = [ A => Y, B => Low, C => "Combine with others from GDC", D => Librarians ]; 18:55 * thd was still reading the description 18:55 slef $recordsClerk ? 18:55 jcamins styling=[A=>Y,B=>medium,C=>no,D=>librarians] 18:54 slef thd: vote early, vote often! 18:54 thd $Koha38New = ['A'=>'Y', 'B'=>'low', 'C'=> 'no', 'D'=>'librarians']; 18:54 cait $styling = = [A=>Y,B=>medium,C=>no,D=>librarians] 18:53 slef $styling = [A=> Y, B=> high, C=> no, D=> librarians]; 18:53 slef $styling ? 18:53 thd $Koha38New = ['A'=>'Y', 'B'=>'high', 'C'=> 'no', 'D'=>'mixed'] 18:52 jcamins $Koha38New=[A=>Y,B=>medium,C=>none,D=>both] 18:52 thd s/\]/\];/ # previous caused syntax error 18:52 slef $Koha38New = [A=>Y, B=> high, C=> no, D=> librarians ]; 18:52 cait $Koha38New = [A=>Y,B=>medium-high ,C=>none,D=>librarians] 18:50 thd s/]/];/ 18:50 slef $Koha38New ? 18:50 jcamins $COaS = [A=>Y,B=>high,C=>more useful to focus on what non-developers can do?,D=>librarians] 18:50 slef and I'm not going to vote on that one, sorry. 18:49 thd $CommunityOrganisationAndSandboxes = ['A'=>'Y', 'B'=>'high', 'C'=> 'unknown', 'D'=>'mixed'] 18:49 cait $CommunityOrganisationAndSandboxes = [A=>Y,B=>high (want librarians using sandboxes),C=>perhaps concentrate on sandboxes and patch workflow? other talks for community,D=>both] 18:48 slef $CommunityOrganisationAndSandboxes ? 18:48 cait guess so :) 18:47 slef so medium it is? 18:47 thd $KohaAndDrupal = ['A'=>'Y', 'B'=>'medium', 'C'=> 'unknown' , 'D'=>'mixed'] 18:47 slef I think it's boring to people who don't use drupal, but we'll see what others think. 18:47 jcamins $KohaAndDrupal = [A=>Y,B=>medium,C=>none,D=>both] 18:46 cait does it get to be medium now? :) 18:46 cait hehe 18:46 slef teehee 18:46 cait $KohaAndDrupal = [ A => Y, B => high, C => "none", D => Librarians ]; 18:46 slef $KohaAndDrupal = [ A=>Y, B=>low, C=>no, D=>mixed ]; 18:46 slef thd: ack, 298 lines changed 18:45 thd s/->/=>/g 18:45 slef $KohaAndDrupal ? 18:45 thd $implementationGeoSci = ['A'=>'Y', 'B'=>'low', 'C'=> 'unknown' , 'D'=>'unknown'] 18:45 slef I actually like the look of that. Long abstract for 20mins again though. 18:45 slef $implementationGeoSci = [ A => Y, B => Medium, C => "Combine with others from GDC", D => Librarians ]; 18:44 cait $implementationGeoSci = [ A => Y, B => Low, C => "Combine with others from GDC", D => Librarians ]; 18:44 jcamins $implementationGeoSci = [ A => Y, B => Low, C => "Combine with others from GDC", D => Librarians ]; 18:44 * cait scrolls up 18:44 slef $implementationGeoSci ? 18:44 thd $improvedGovernance = ['A'->'Y', 'B'->'high', 'C'-> 'unknown' , 'D'->'mixed'] 18:43 slef $improvedGovernance = [ A => Y, B => medium, C => probably-no, D => mixed ]; 18:43 cait $improvedGovernance = [ A => Y, B => high, C => no, D => everyone ]; 18:43 jcamins improvedGovernance = [A=>Y, B=>high, C=>none, D=>everyone] 18:42 cait I do remember - happy memories 18:42 slef oh it's Bob Birchall I think... if that helps you remember kohacon10 18:41 cait reading 18:41 slef $improvedGovernance ? 18:41 jcamins $kohaAndSRU = [ 'A'=>Y, 'B'=>low, C=>emphasize practical applications, D=>mixed ] 18:41 thd $kohaAndSRU = ['A'->'Y', 'B'->'high', 'C'-> 'unknown' , 'D'->'both'] 18:41 slef $kohaAndSRU = [ A => Y, B => medium, C => 'drop other ideas for now', D => developers ]; 18:41 cait $kohaAndSRU = [ A => Y, B => medium, C => no, D => mixed ]; 18:40 slef $kohaAndSRU ? 18:40 thd $multinationSpeial = ['A'->'Y', 'B'->'medium', 'C'-> 'unknown' , 'D'->'librarian'] 18:40 slef yeah come on thd, you started us all writing []s and so on... 18:39 cait thd? :) 18:39 jcamins $multinationalSpecial = [ A => Y, B => medium-high, C => None, D => librarians ] 18:38 cait that 18:38 cait last time: $multiNationalSpecial = [ A => Y, B => high (serials), C => no, D => Librarians ]; 18:38 slef cait: vote early, vote often! 18:38 cait now I messed it up totally 18:38 slef $multiNationalSpecial = [ A => Y, B => Hi, C => No, D => Librarians ]; 18:38 cait lol 18:38 thd Peanut butter license, yaay 18:38 cait sorry 18:38 cait $multinationalSpecial = [ A => Y, B => Low, C => "Combine with others from GDC", D => Librarians ]; 18:37 cait args 18:37 cait $geo-sci = [ A => Y, B => high (serials), C => no, D => Librarians ]; 18:37 jcamins Okay, no idea. 18:37 slef $multiNationalSpecial ? 18:37 cait sounds yummy 18:37 jcamins And it's GDC and GDL. 18:37 jcamins :) 18:37 jcamins On. 18:37 jcamins Oh. 18:36 slef jcamins: Or or On? 18:36 jcamins $geo-sci = [ A => Y, B => Low, C => "Combine with others from GDC", D => Librarians ]; 18:36 jcamins Peanut Butter Or GNU Documentation License. 18:36 cait :) 18:36 cait $geo-sci = [ A => Y, B => Low, C => "Combine with others from GDC", D => Librarians ]; 18:36 cait slef: wondered about that too! 18:36 slef also I've no idea what a PB-O-GDC licence is ;-) 18:35 thd If there is a shortage of papers to fill the time, why would several papers from one party be a problem? 18:35 cait perhaps we could set a time frame and ask for a submission for that time? 18:35 slef $geo-sci = [ A => Y, B => Low, C => "Combine with others from GDC", D => Librarians ]; 18:35 jcamins But there would by necessity be a lot of duplication. 18:35 jcamins Or two, if they have different audiences in mind. 18:35 jcamins I think one combined talk would probably be best. 18:35 cait 4 presentations from the same place is a bit much? 18:34 cait I think we should sort that out a bit 18:34 cait ok 18:34 slef and USING KOHA TO IMPROVE SERVICE DELIVERY... 18:34 jcamins And KOHA, THE WAY TO GO... 18:33 thd $geo-sci = ['A'->'Y', 'B'->'low', 'C'-> 'unknown' , 'D'->'unknown'] 18:33 slef jcamins: Implementation..., Utilization..., Records Clerk, Koha The Way to Go 18:33 jcamins RECORDS CLERK 18:33 cait jcamins: what are the other 2? 18:33 slef jcamins: checking 18:32 jcamins They seem to have four papers? 18:32 slef ok, so reviews for $utilization? 18:32 cait we could request that perhaps 18:32 cait it's a total of 45 minutes then + discussion 18:32 jwagner If they're from the same site, maybe do a combined paper? 18:31 cait but if we want both, should schedule accordingly? 18:31 thd $dataHeuristics = ['A'->'Y', 'B'->'high', 'C'-> 'unknown' , 'D'->'both'] 18:31 cait I think one is implementation, one is use 18:31 jwagner Good catch, cait -- thought that looked familiar 18:31 slef cait: yes. There are multiple attendees from that place though, so not all geotech talks are him! 18:31 cait thd: for data heuristics? 18:30 thd ['A', 'B'->'high', 'C'-> 'unknown' , 'D'->'both'] 18:30 slef cait: checking... 18:30 slef jcamins: I'll take any reviews I can get and sort out disagreements later 18:30 cait ? 18:30 cait Implementation of Koha in Geo-Scientific Information Management 20mins pbosire med/lib 18:30 cait is it the same or another speaker than: 18:30 cait I have a question about the next one right away 18:30 * jcamins didn't realize he was supposed to be answering. 18:30 jcamins A: yes; B: Medium; C: no changes; D. librarians? 18:29 slef thd, jcamins? 18:29 jwagner I'd say move on 18:29 Oak good night my hearties. almost midnight here. 18:28 slef any more or move on? 18:28 slef A. yes; B. Medium; C. No; D. mixed AFAICT 18:28 cait A: yes, B: medium C: no changes d: not sure, but think intended for libraries 18:26 slef so first paper, 10 Data Migration Heuristics, what do you think? 18:26 slef A. Accept it? Y/N; B. Hi/Medium/Low priority? C. Changes to request, if any? D. Developer or Librarian audience? 18:25 cait and not enough papers I think 18:24 slef need to decide: 18:24 slef ok, for each paper: 18:24 slef we don't have a venue that lends itself to that 18:23 thd Exactly, what jwagner wrote. 18:23 thd Do we assume that we have no need for concurrent presentations in different rooms? 18:23 cait one track 18:23 slef one track 18:23 jwagner Is there one basic track, or simultaneous tracks? 18:23 pastebot "slef" at 82.132.242.225 pasted "KohaCon12 presentations for review" (269 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/363 18:22 cait grouping by topic? audience? 18:22 cait any ideas how to schedule them later on? 18:22 cait perhaps while slef pastes 18:20 thd Yes, I see. I had remembered how often logbot had disappeared or failed in the past. 18:20 slef ok give me a mo to format these and copy to pastebin 18:19 cait thd: yes, that's logbot 18:19 wahanui i already had it that way, slef. 18:19 slef thd: yes, logbot is here 18:19 thd Are the normal logs running? 18:19 jwagner I'd vote for pastebin -- easier to read 18:19 slef it'll be easier for me to paste them here, but I'll do whatever 18:19 cait and there are always the normal irc logs 18:18 thd jwagner++ 18:18 cait jwagner: we will try to create minutes 18:18 thd What about posting them in some http accessible location? 18:18 jwagner if huginn isn't here, we aren't getting auto minutes, right? Pastebin link might be quicker 18:18 cait slef, start :) 18:18 * jcamins doesn't know, that was a question. 18:17 cait ok 18:17 jcamins cait: better to paste direct so it goes in the minutes? 18:17 slef I think my client will handle it 18:17 cait abstracts might be cut off 18:17 cait hm perhaps better paste? 18:17 slef I'd like to paste each title and abstract here, and get opinions. Would that be OK? 18:16 slef OK, there's a dozen or so papers waiting for review 18:16 cait #topic Paper review 18:16 slef ok 18:16 cait moving on to next topic? 18:15 thd A few fish frolic more freely for now. 18:15 narcisgarcia Ok. 18:15 cait slef: nothing from me 18:15 cait #info about 40 registrations - awaiting flurry when program is announced 18:15 jcamins narcisgarcia: there is a meeting going on right now. You should save your questions for after it's finished. 18:14 narcisgarcia As I read in the spanish translation, as "branch" Koha refers to a physical library, right? 18:14 slef Anything else? 18:14 cait 40 is good 18:14 slef I think we're at 40 registrations and I expect a flurry once we announce some talks. 18:14 * libsysguy steps out 18:14 cait slef: oh :( 18:13 libsysguy shoot didn't even see that 18:13 thd libsysguy: It would look better after the KohaCon 2012 meeting. 18:13 slef Sadly mle_ is ill so I'm a bit limited. 18:13 narcisgarcia Thanks 18:12 slef On the fishing trip, I don't think we've had any interest. 18:12 libsysguy delete biblio, biblioitem, item from biblio join biblioitem on biblio.biblionumber = biblioitem.biblionumber join items on biblio.biblionumber = items.biblionumber where biblionumber = ? 18:12 libsysguy does this look good 18:12 slef At the venue, I think we're making progress on signs, but more to do. 18:11 slef we'll mailshot sponsors as soon as volunteer time allows 18:11 slef it's still a bit close 18:11 slef There was a rush of papers on deadline day, so there are about a dozen needing review. 18:11 cait how are the finances? working out? 18:10 cait you are welcome 18:10 slef which I've shamelessly stolen for the main conference too. 18:10 slef #link http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/KohaCon12_Schedule 18:10 slef cait made a great start on a timetable for the hackfest on 18:09 slef has updated amounts - thanks to the new sponsors. 18:09 slef #link http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/KohaCon12_Volunteers 18:09 cait slef, do you want to start and give us a short update? 18:09 cait #topic Roadmap to KohaCon12 18:09 cait ok, first topic 18:08 cait narcisgarcia: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Newbie_guide 18:08 narcisgarcia I'm configuring opaclanguagesdisplay (Allow patrons to change the language they see on the OPAC) and I need to know who are "patrons" 18:08 jwagner #info Jane Wagner, Liblime/PTFS 18:07 cait #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany 18:07 slef #info MJ Ray, software.coop, England 18:07 wahanui #info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient 18:07 cait #topic introductions 18:07 thd #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City 18:07 cait #topic volunteer's meeting - please introduce yourself with #info 18:06 wahanui OK, slef. 18:06 slef wahanui: sysadmins is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Website_Administration 18:06 thd Automation is always nice, especially if it can be force fed. 18:06 wahanui slef: i haven't a clue 18:06 slef wahanui: sysadmins? 18:06 cait will make it easier to generate minutes manually too 18:06 cait let's pretend he is here 18:06 cait yes 18:06 thd :) 18:06 slef yeah but it's nice having the features. Oh well I'll give gmcharlt a log later and see if huginn can be force-fed 18:05 thd I think that meetings worked reasonably well in the past before any meeting bots. 18:05 narcisgarcia Is there a downloadable version of the manuals? 18:05 wahanui bots are listed at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars 18:05 slef wahanui: bots? 18:05 * slef looks at the wiki 18:04 slef (the Fast Show, known in the US as Brilliant!) 18:04 cait we are lost! 18:04 cait no meetinbot 18:04 cait ok 18:04 * slef switches TV shows 18:04 slef "bugger!" 18:04 jcamins gmcharlt: oy! I want a word witchu! 18:04 slef Galen Charlton <-> Offline 18:04 jcamins Or, as slef might put it... 18:03 thd :0 18:03 cait lol 18:03 jcamins gmcharlt: around? 18:03 slef gmcharlt: help! 18:03 cait gmcharlt? around? 18:03 slef [18:25]*** huginn (~supybot@www.librarypolice.com) has quit: Read error: Connection reset by peer 18:03 cait hm 18:02 wahanui i heard huginn was a bot too veera, not a person 18:02 slef where's huginn? 18:02 cait ok, try again :) 18:02 thd can we teach wahanui to chair meetings? 18:02 cait lol 18:02 cait \startmeeting 18:02 wahanui if there is a meeting then Brooke must want me 18:02 cait #startmeeting 18:02 wahanui if there is a meeting then Brooke must want me 18:02 slef ok #startmeeting 18:02 cait only forget how to stat :) 18:02 cait i can do it 18:02 slef cait: watch me this time. You get it next week? 18:02 jcamins I was sure wahanui would have something to say about that. 18:01 jcamins Huh. 18:01 jcamins Busy? 18:01 slef no, not on IRC much. Seems busy. 18:01 cait y 18:01 cait if you tell me how, I can tr 18:01 cait I tihnk I haven't seen her in a while 18:01 slef ok, would anyone else like to chair the meeting? There are four topics as far as I know: Introductions, Roadmap to KohaCon12, Paper reviews, Next Meeting 18:00 cait ah ok 18:00 slef cait: a little. 17:59 cait slef: have you heard from Brooke lately? 17:58 cait trend setting :) 17:57 slef jcamins: scratchy but good! 17:57 slef damn I wonder what happened to the main list email. I'll look for it later? 17:57 jcamins slef: I wouldn't recommend wearing a cat on your head. 17:56 cait I only saw you rmail to the volunteer's list I think 17:56 jcamins Who is blue. 17:56 cait hmmm 17:56 jcamins slef: You're thinking of Chester. 17:56 cait you might want to leave out the libraries and borrowers - if you want to start configuring your own 17:56 slef did my email to the main koha list about the meeting go out? I don't remember seeing it. 17:56 slef jasper is an orange cat, no? 17:55 narcisgarcia Ok, I selected everything except "Sample holidays" and the last US libraries. 17:54 jcamins Apparently I'm boring today. :/ 17:53 cait ooh 17:53 cait give im my greetings ;) 17:53 jcamins He came over to say hi briefly, but left a while ago. 17:53 jcamins cait: I am indeed. 17:53 cait jcamins: are you at chester's today? 17:52 jcamins :) 17:51 cait it looked kinda wrong... 17:51 cait right 17:50 cait oh 17:50 jcamins cait: jester. :) 17:50 narcisgarcia Ok, good for us that cannot duplicate ISBN records. 17:50 cait slef: and we have even some time left to negotiate who gets to wear the jasper head tonight 17:50 slef (really should buy a new laptop battery) 17:50 jcamins That is all. 17:50 jcamins narcisgarcia: you can make sure that you don't have duplicate records. 17:49 cait well done! 17:49 slef cait: I survived! 17:49 narcisgarcia Then, if I select matching rules for MARC21, we can import right the mentioned ISBN for example. 17:48 cait it's to match data together, like when you import data 17:48 jcamins narcisgarcia: if you want to understand what the system does, reading through the manual is a good idea. 17:47 cait they are good to see how things work 17:47 cait i would get the sample rules 17:47 narcisgarcia (without a special sense for us) 17:47 narcisgarcia And I don't want to select options that could complicate the administration or the use. 17:46 narcisgarcia But I may need it, and I want to know for example the implies of "matching rules" 17:45 narcisgarcia Simple MARC 21 bibliographic frameworks for... 17:45 cait but someof those are nice to have 17:45 cait optional = not strictly needed by koha 17:45 cait yep 17:45 cait slef: no crashing- we have a meeting! 17:45 narcisgarcia 'FA', a 'Fast Add' minimal MARC21 framework suitable for... 17:45 slef trying to move across home... let's see if I crash... 17:45 narcisgarcia Selected matching rules for MARC 21 bibliographic records, including... 17:45 narcisgarcia Optional: 17:44 narcisgarcia Selecting Default Settings - MARC Frameworks: MARC21 17:41 cait it's about the sample data? 17:41 cait the documentation is on the page 17:39 narcisgarcia The installation web wizard asks for optional components, and I don't find any documentation about them. 17:27 cait hi #koha 17:24 kyleh jcamins: I have the suspicion that you are right. only one way to find out... 17:24 jcamins kyleh: it'll be a challenge to fix, I suspect. 17:23 narcisgarcia http://manual.koha-community.org/3.6/ 17:23 narcisgarcia Laks of the translated manuals: 17:23 narcisgarcia http://koha-community.org/documentation/ 17:23 narcisgarcia In the web site: 17:19 jcamins kyleh: I did. :) 17:19 kyleh jcamins: i see, go ahead and reopen the bug then, and I'll have a crack at it. 17:19 jcamins When you change frameworks, all the fields not in a particular framework are summarily deleted, I think. 17:18 jcamins kyleh: I figured out the point of confusion. The issue isn't changing *frameworks*, it's changing the hidden value on a particular framework. 17:13 narcisgarcia http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian 17:00 wizzyrea there's an entire manual available from www.koha-community.org 17:00 wizzyrea ok thanks 16:58 narcisgarcia I've documented site creation and language building in the wiki. 16:48 jcamins Okay, there's an issue with the Turkish translation. 16:47 kf :) 16:47 wizzyrea yes, shoo. 16:47 jcamins kf: yes you may. :) 16:47 jcamins I need to do a package with all the translations. 16:47 kf so I can go home now, right? :) 16:47 kf ok, never installed translations for the packages :) 16:46 kf ah 16:46 jcamins kf: not for package/standard installs. 16:46 wizzyrea I don't think so, for the packages it has to write in /usr/share/koha 16:46 kf so the templates belong to my koha user... as all ohter files do 16:46 kf always as my koha user 16:46 kf I never do that 16:46 narcisgarcia $ for Current in $Langs ; do sudo env PERL5LIB=/usr/share/koha/lib/ KOHA_CONF=/etc/koha/sites/biblio/koha-conf.xml perl translate install $Current ; done 16:46 kf but could running the translation command as root be the problem? 16:46 wizzyrea but for your immediate problem, yes, that might be better. 16:46 kf I have not seen all 16:45 wizzyrea no, fixing the problem is better. 16:45 narcisgarcia Then perform a command like: 16:45 narcisgarcia $ Langs="$(ls -1 /usr/share/koha/misc/translator/po/ | grep -ie "pref.po" | sed -e "s/-pref\.po//g")" 16:45 narcisgarcia The follofing command may be better to know which languages are available and have not a break like this: 16:45 wahanui bugs is found at http://bugs.koha-community.org. Please fix any bugs you find. :) or reporting them is helpful, too. 16:45 wizzyrea bugs? 16:45 wizzyrea so does it stop installing translations after this one or ... 16:45 jcamins You know, someone should run translate -a and report bugs for everything that doesn't work. 16:44 kf I probably should know... but I don't know :) 16:44 jcamins That question was really "why on earth is there an en-USACADEMIC translation in the repository? 16:44 wizzyrea it's not listed on translate.k-c.org 16:43 jcamins It's very outdated. 16:43 kf and if it does it's probably outdated 16:43 wizzyrea ^^ is probably the problem. 16:43 kf I don't think that exists really 16:43 wizzyrea one of the translations I'd reckon 16:43 jcamins What on earth is USACADEMIC? 16:43 wizzyrea did it do stuff before that? 16:43 * wizzyrea wonders about the en-usacademic translation. 16:42 narcisgarcia After these lines, is ended. 16:42 jcamins Much, much easier. 16:42 wizzyrea plus so much easier to read in paste 16:41 pastebot "narcisgarcia" at 87.111.32.12 pasted "sudo env PERL5LIB=/usr/share/koha/lib/ KOHA_CONF=/etc/koha/sites/biblio/koha-conf.xml perl translate -a install" (10 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/362 16:41 jcamins Does it keep going after that error? 16:41 jcamins narcisgarcia: as a general rule, use paste.koha-community.org for anything more than one or two lines. 16:41 narcisgarcia Ok. 16:41 wizzyrea yes please. 16:41 narcisgarcia For a too short text? 16:40 narcisgarcia (El fitxer o directori no existeix = The file or directory doesn't exist) 16:40 wizzyrea paste.koha-community.org 16:40 narcisgarcia Koha directories hierarchy for en-USACADEMIC must be created first 16:40 narcisgarcia /usr/share/koha/misc/translator/po/en-USACADEMIC-i-staff-t-prog-v-3006000.po: El fitxer o directori no existeix 16:40 narcisgarcia Warning: Charset Out defaulting to UTF-8 16:40 narcisgarcia Warning: Can't determine original templates' charset, defaulting to UTF-8 16:40 narcisgarcia With: /usr/share/koha/misc/translator/po/en-USACADEMIC-i-staff-t-prog-v-3006000.po 16:40 narcisgarcia To : /usr/share/koha/intranet/htdocs/intranet-tmpl/prog/en-USACADEMIC 16:40 narcisgarcia From: /usr/share/koha/intranet/htdocs/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/ 16:40 narcisgarcia Install templates 'intranet 16:40 narcisgarcia The install seems to be successful. 16:40 narcisgarcia Copying /usr/share/koha/opac/htdocs/opac-tmpl/prog/en/js/tags.js... 16:40 narcisgarcia But I thing it's a break: 16:39 wizzyrea woo! 16:38 narcisgarcia Yes, yes, the las wizzyrea command works. All the languages are being translated. 16:38 wizzyrea or you can just try -a 16:38 narcisgarcia Langs="$(ls -1 /usr/share/koha/misc/translator/po/ | grep -ie "pref.po" | sed -e "s/-pref\.po//g")" 16:37 wizzyrea might do it 16:37 wizzyrea sudo env PERL5LIB=/usr/share/koha/lib/ KOHA_CONF=/etc/koha/sites/biblio/koha-conf.xml perl translate -a install 16:37 jcamins translate -a install 16:37 jcamins translate -a is supposed to do it. 16:36 * jcamins was tripped up by env just the other day. 16:36 jcamins Oh, sorry, didn't understand the problem. 16:36 wizzyrea keke 16:35 wahanui jcamins is, like, an outstanding cook, well-traveled and brilliant, trying to think of a solution, or the wizard that forges queries in the deep fires of zebra 16:35 wizzyrea jcamins? 16:35 wizzyrea do you happen to know how to do that? 16:35 narcisgarcia $ sudo env PERL5LIB=/usr/share/koha/lib/ KOHA_CONF=/etc/koha/sites/biblio/koha-conf.xml perl translate install fr-FR 16:35 wizzyrea at once. 16:35 wizzyrea right, he wants to install *all* of the translations. 16:35 narcisgarcia I've tried with the fr-FR and works. 16:35 jcamins I was tripped up by that. 16:35 jcamins wizzyrea: I think sudo has a different way of specifying environment variables. 16:35 wizzyrea we don't often have people ls -ing in channel ;) 16:34 narcisgarcia You have the kick button very easy to shot. 16:34 wizzyrea no, he has to have that to sudo install the translations 16:34 jcamins I don't know much about translations, but I think maybe the problem is that you need to remove "env" from your command line. 16:34 * wizzyrea doesn't often at all exercise kick powers. 16:33 wizzyrea thanks :) 16:33 narcisgarcia Ok, learnt. 16:33 jcamins Okay, now we've caught you. :) 16:33 wizzyrea paste.koha-community.org 16:33 wizzyrea we have a tool for that :) 16:33 narcisgarcia I'm sorry 16:33 jcamins narcisgarcia: DO NOT RUN ls again. 16:33 narcisgarcia What happens now? 16:33 narcisgarcia Hey, was a mistake! 16:33 narcisgarcia I may have found the languages available: in /usr/share/koha/misc/translator/po/ 16:33 narcisgarcia zh-Hans-TW-pref.po 16:33 narcisgarcia zh-Hans-CN-pref.po 16:33 narcisgarcia vi-VN-pref.po 16:32 narcisgarcia ur-Arab-pref.po 16:32 narcisgarcia uk-UA-pref.po 16:32 narcisgarcia tr-TR-pref.po 16:32 narcisgarcia tl-PH-pref.po 16:32 wizzyrea narcisgarcia: I'm going to have to ban you 16:32 narcisgarcia th-THA-pref.po 16:32 narcisgarcia tet-pref.po 16:32 narcisgarcia ta-LK-pref.po 16:32 narcisgarcia sv-SE-pref.po 16:32 narcisgarcia sr-Cyrl-pref.po 16:32 narcisgarcia sq-AL-pref.po 16:32 narcisgarcia sl-SI-pref.po 16:32 narcisgarcia sk-SK-pref.po 16:32 narcisgarcia sd-PK-pref.po 16:32 narcisgarcia ru-RU-pref.po 16:32 narcisgarcia ro-RO-pref.po 16:32 narcisgarcia pt-PT-pref.po 16:32 narcisgarcia pt-BR-pref.po 16:32 narcisgarcia prs-pref.po 16:32 narcisgarcia pl-PL-pref.po 16:32 narcisgarcia pbr-pref.po 16:32 narcisgarcia ne-NE-pref.po 16:32 narcisgarcia nb-NO-pref.po 16:32 wizzyrea no, please don't do that 16:32 narcisgarcia ms-MY-pref.po 16:32 wizzyrea sorry 16:32 narcisgarcia mr-pref.po 16:31 wizzyrea hi 16:31 wizzyrea sorry, will explain when he comes back. 16:31 narcisgarcia he-Hebr-pref.po 16:31 narcisgarcia gl-pref.po 16:31 narcisgarcia fr-FR-pref.po 16:31 narcisgarcia fr-CA-pref.po 16:31 narcisgarcia fi-FI-pref.po 16:31 narcisgarcia fa-Arab-pref.po 16:31 narcisgarcia eu-pref.po 16:31 narcisgarcia es-ES-pref.po 16:31 narcisgarcia en-NZ-pref.po 16:31 narcisgarcia en-GB-pref.po 16:31 wizzyrea uh, please stop doing that 16:31 narcisgarcia el-GR-pref.po 16:31 narcisgarcia de-DE-pref.po 16:31 narcisgarcia da-DK-pref.po 16:31 narcisgarcia cs-CZ-pref.po 16:31 narcisgarcia ca-VA-pref.po 16:30 narcisgarcia bg-Cyrl-pref.po 16:30 narcisgarcia ben-pref.po 16:30 narcisgarcia az-AZ-pref.po 16:30 narcisgarcia ar-Arab-pref.po 16:30 narcisgarcia am-Ethi-pref.po 16:30 narcisgarcia $ ls -1 /usr/share/koha/misc/translator/po/ | grep -ie "pref.po" 16:29 narcisgarcia updatedatabase.pl 16:29 narcisgarcia update22to30.pl 16:29 narcisgarcia uk-UA 16:29 wahanui rumour has it sysprefs.sql is new for me lol 16:29 narcisgarcia sysprefs.sql 16:29 jcamins (I didn't try again, I was just wondering if there was some trick to make it work) 16:29 narcisgarcia sample_only_param_tables.sql 16:29 narcisgarcia ru-RU 16:29 narcisgarcia pl-PL 16:29 narcisgarcia patroncards_upgrade.pl 16:29 narcisgarcia nb-NO 16:29 narcisgarcia labels_upgrade.pl 16:29 narcisgarcia kohastructure.sql 16:29 narcisgarcia it-IT 16:29 narcisgarcia fr-FR 16:29 narcisgarcia es-ES 16:29 narcisgarcia en 16:29 narcisgarcia de-DE 16:29 narcisgarcia backfill_statistics.pl 16:29 wahanui atomicupdate is anotherway to update the database, you just link the atomic update to the updatedatabase.pl at final merge. 16:29 narcisgarcia atomicupdate 16:29 narcisgarcia $ ls -1 /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/installer/data/mysql/ 16:29 narcisgarcia Then, $ ls -1 /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/installer/data/mysql/ 16:29 jcamins kyleh: cool. Plain view never obeyed the frameworks before. 16:28 magnuse oh my, i gotta run! see y'all later! 16:27 kyleh jcamins: I looked at a record in labeled and plain view, and changed to the fast add framework and looked at it again. The second time it only showed the fields for the FA framework for both. Talked to nengard about it, and she said that the main point was that both should always show the same fields, and it appears to be doing so in master now. 16:27 magnuse weird, maybe the doc is out od sunc with reality... 16:27 narcisgarcia No message. No delay. 16:26 magnuse narcisgarcia: did it finnish? 16:26 narcisgarcia But no reaction (no buld, no error) 16:26 narcisgarcia $ sudo env PERL5LIB=/usr/share/koha/lib/ KOHA_CONF=/etc/koha/sites/biblio/koha-conf.xml perl translate install 16:26 narcisgarcia Tried: 16:25 magnuse jcamins: sure, must spring from the mind of a great wizzard :-) 16:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7933 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED WORKSFORME, Fields in marc display not the same 16:25 jcamins I was wondering how you tested bug 7933. 16:25 kyleh jcamins: indeed, what's up? 16:25 magnuse according to "perldoc translate" you can just run "perl translate install" to build them all - but i never tried that! 16:25 jcamins kyleh: around? 16:25 jcamins Ah, yeah, those are some pretty great features. :) 16:24 narcisgarcia (I want to build all languages) 16:24 magnuse jcamins_away: --use-db to koha-create, but i think we figured it out - or narcisgarcia did :-) 16:24 narcisgarcia And are they in some file or directory to automate the process repeating the perl command? 16:24 jcamins_away magnuse: what options? 16:23 magnuse http://translate.koha-community.org/ 16:22 narcisgarcia Where are listed the available languages to build? 16:20 magnuse hm, guess i never actually tried that either... 16:19 narcisgarcia Works. 16:19 narcisgarcia $ sudo perl translate install fr-FR 16:19 narcisgarcia $ env PERL5LIB=/usr/share/koha/lib/ KOHA_CONF=/etc/koha/sites/<instancename>/koha-conf.xml perl translate fr-FR 16:19 narcisgarcia $ sudo su 16:19 slef that's "easiest" 16:19 slef sudo env PERL5LIB=/usr/share/koha/lib/ KOHA_CONF=/etc/koha/sites/<instancename>/koha-conf.xml perl translate fr-FR 16:18 wizzyrea you will need to rerun your exports as root before you try. 16:18 narcisgarcia Ok, I can try in a root session 16:18 slef from memory 16:18 slef sudo -e perl ... 16:18 slef oh yeah 16:18 wizzyrea then the reason he's having trouble is because the environment isn't being carried over to the sudo. 16:17 slef wizzyrea: yes, you do, it's writing files in /usr (also evil bad and wrong) 16:17 narcisgarcia Tried. Same error. 16:17 wizzyrea at least I don't think. 16:17 slef replacing <instancename> with main or whatever 16:17 wizzyrea you don't need to sudo 16:17 magnuse export PERL5LIB=/usr/share/koha/lib/; export KOHA_CONF=/etc/koha/sites/<instancename>/koha-conf.xml 16:17 slef bah, I'll stop guessing because I've not time to do this properly 16:17 magnuse narcisgarcia: i think this hould do it: 16:16 narcisgarcia BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at translate line 25. 16:16 narcisgarcia Compilation failed in require at translate line 25. 16:16 narcisgarcia BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at LangInstaller.pm line 23. 16:16 narcisgarcia Can't locate C4/Context.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.1 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at LangInstaller.pm line 23. 16:16 narcisgarcia $ sudo perl translate install fr-FR 16:16 narcisgarcia $ export PERL5LIB=/usr/share/koha 16:16 wizzyrea (but all of that is documented in the install files already) 16:16 slef narcisgarcia: then rerun the perl command 16:16 slef narcisgarcia: at a guess: export PERL5LIB=/usr/share/koha 16:15 narcisgarcia Oohh, documentation! (I'm slowly writing in the wiki what I'm learning now) 16:15 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7998 minor, P5 - low, ---, wizzyrea, Needs Signoff , 3.8 UI cleanup, tweaks to new styles 16:15 wizzyrea actually, the way mine looks right now is because of the patches I've submitted on bug 7998 16:15 slef magnuse: huh? aieeee! 16:15 magnuse slef: just don't saw it off 16:15 slef hrm I'm probably stuck up a branch somewhere 16:15 magnuse narcisgarcia: you need to set some variables, one moment 16:14 wizzyrea yea, it was one of the very last things to go into 3.8 16:14 narcisgarcia BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at translate line 25. 16:14 narcisgarcia Compilation failed in require at translate line 25. 16:14 narcisgarcia BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at LangInstaller.pm line 23. 16:14 narcisgarcia Can't locate C4/Context.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.1 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at LangInstaller.pm line 23. 16:14 magnuse slef: Ctrl-Shift+R? 16:14 narcisgarcia sudo perl translate install fr-FR 16:14 wizzyrea hehe 16:14 narcisgarcia $ cd /usr/share/koha/misc/translator/ 16:14 slef Have I offended the colour gods? 16:14 wizzyrea hm, not sure? 16:14 wizzyrea (but it's so you can edit each section independently) 16:14 slef oh why isn't my 3.8 blue? 16:13 * wizzyrea wasn't going to go near that question 16:13 slef wizzyrea: And why do we have so many Edit links anyway? 16:13 wizzyrea yes, everywhere in 3.8 16:13 slef wizzyrea: Do we use blue backgrounds anywhere else in koha? 16:13 narcisgarcia Oh, good. 16:13 wizzyrea to match the rest of the UI 16:13 wizzyrea yea 16:13 magnuse narcisgarcia: yep 16:13 slef wizzyrea: And you want to make it blue? (I think?) 16:13 wizzyrea nm. 16:12 wizzyrea the area behind the upload button in white. 16:12 narcisgarcia Each user will can select its preferred language sharing the same instance with others, right? 16:12 wizzyrea the area behind "Edit" is white 16:12 slef perl translate install fr-FR en-GB ... 16:12 slef narcisgarcia: or just list all the language codes on the line, I think 16:12 magnuse yup 16:12 narcisgarcia Then, I can repeat the perl command for each language I want to be available, right? 16:11 slef wizzyrea: white? 16:11 magnuse yep, it will make the userinterfaces available inthe languages you choose to tinstall 16:11 wizzyrea yes. 16:11 narcisgarcia Will this be useful for user interfaces? 16:11 wizzyrea magnuse++ slef++ 16:11 magnuse narcisgarcia: you will need to do "cd /usr/share/koha/misc/translator/" then "perl translate install fr-FR" (replacing fr-FR with the language you want) before you proceed with the web installer 16:11 wizzyrea (in 3.8 right now, those are white + ugly) 16:10 slef but I have not tested it 16:10 slef I suspect that's "cd /usr/share/koha/misc/translator" on the debian packaged system 16:10 wizzyrea to the 3.8 ui 16:10 wizzyrea http://screencast.com/t/IJ8QRB0IHyRy 16:10 wizzyrea on a totally unrelated note: what do you all think of these minor changes? 16:09 slef perl translate install fr-FR # or use your preferred language codes 16:09 slef cd misc/translator 16:09 slef If you would like more languages and not only English, 16:09 slef 1.2. Optional foreign language installation: 16:09 magnuse how to add more languages should be added to http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian 16:08 slef let me get the lines from the 3.8.0 INSTALL file 16:08 wizzyrea kf - about? 16:08 wizzyrea nope, it just doesn't cover translations 16:07 narcisgarcia Bad begin? 16:07 slef oh well good luck to you 16:07 narcisgarcia I was following http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.6_on_Debian_Squeeze 16:06 slef narcisgarcia: is there a step 1.2 in the INSTALL text file I think? 16:06 wahanui wizzyrea: sorry... 16:06 wizzyrea not helpful, wahanui. 16:06 narcisgarcia Does this affect only installation process, or also the future interface? 16:06 wahanui translation is done through the pref files 16:06 wizzyrea translation? 16:06 wizzyrea translations? 16:06 narcisgarcia (only "en" to select) 16:06 narcisgarcia Please pick your language from the following list. If your language is not listed, please inform your systems administrator." 16:05 narcisgarcia "You are about to install Koha. 16:05 magnuse narcisgarcia: yup 16:04 narcisgarcia (/etc/koha/passwd) 16:04 narcisgarcia The username and password for the web installer, must be the same as for MySQL? 16:03 narcisgarcia Now I have an instance called "myinstance" (working) and another called "mydatabase" (bad) 16:02 narcisgarcia But now I can't remove my previous instance 16:02 narcisgarcia Good for community Koha 16:02 wizzyrea the docs say to do what we told you 16:02 narcisgarcia But not trust in documentation! 16:01 wizzyrea see, trust in koha. 16:01 magnuse yay! 16:01 narcisgarcia "Welcome to the Koha Web Installer" 16:01 narcisgarcia Now I visit the admin web interface and: 16:01 magnuse looks promising 16:01 narcisgarcia # No error. 16:01 narcisgarcia Starting Zebra server for myinstance 16:01 narcisgarcia Restarting web server: apache2 ... waiting . 16:01 narcisgarcia Run '/etc/init.d/apache2 reload' to activate new configuration! 16:00 narcisgarcia Enabling site myinstance. 16:00 narcisgarcia $ sudo koha-create --use-db myinstance 16:00 narcisgarcia (once created /etc/koha/passwd) 16:00 narcisgarcia Now I've tried this: 15:58 magnuse just use "sudo koha-create --create-db myinstance" and don't worry about creating the database yourself .-) 15:57 magnuse i think that is how it is supposed to work, but i never tried it 15:57 narcisgarcia Well, I will create a database previously in MySQL, then I need Koha uses the existing database. Do will Koha select the database name fom /etc/koha/passwd ? 15:56 narcisgarcia This may be my additional mistake. 15:56 magnuse koha-create will decide the name of the database for you 15:55 magnuse sudo koha-create --create-db myinstance 15:54 narcisgarcia ? 15:54 narcisgarcia sudo koha-create --create-db mydatabase myinstance 15:54 narcisgarcia OR: 15:54 narcisgarcia sudo koha-create --create-db myinstance 15:54 narcisgarcia And the syntax will be: 15:52 wizzyrea just let koha do the work for you 15:52 wizzyrea sure 15:52 narcisgarcia Will I can do --create-db with an already existing MySQL empty database? 15:51 narcisgarcia Well I'll do a new try (fresh installation again) to make a simple Koha setup. 15:50 wizzyrea we can't help you with the other flavors. 15:50 narcisgarcia Yes, this is the reason for why I selected first the "community" flavour. 15:49 wizzyrea they don't have packages. 15:49 narcisgarcia I've found other variants like LibLime and UNLP. Are they more stable? 15:49 narcisgarcia I've used a fresh Debian Squeeze installation, and the pointed repository. 15:48 wahanui well, packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian 15:48 wizzyrea packages? 15:47 wizzyrea installing koha often requires a sense of adventure. 15:46 narcisgarcia I'm afraid to find other several errors like this in the future... 15:46 narcisgarcia APT will purge instances data? 15:46 wizzyrea and reinstall koha-common fresh. 15:45 wizzyrea with the option to purge everything 15:45 wizzyrea or apt-get remove koha-common 15:45 narcisgarcia I'm thinking on delete the server and install a clean Debian and start again. 15:45 wizzyrea the *user* you're trying to remove doesn't exist. 15:44 magnuse yeah, that's tricky... 15:44 narcisgarcia ERROR 1396 (HY000) at line 1: Operation DROP USER failed for 'koha_--'@'%' 15:44 narcisgarcia Removing Koha instance -- 15:43 narcisgarcia $ sudo koha-remove mydatabase 15:43 narcisgarcia mydatabase 15:43 narcisgarcia sudo koha-list 15:42 wizzyrea because the user you're trying to remove doesn't exist maybe? 15:41 narcisgarcia ERROR 1396 (HY000) at line 1: Operation DROP USER failed for 'koha_--'@'%' 15:41 narcisgarcia Removing Koha instance -- 15:41 narcisgarcia # And says: 15:40 narcisgarcia sudo koha-remove myinstance 15:40 narcisgarcia Now I have run: 15:38 magnuse username based on the instance name and random password 15:38 narcisgarcia Ok, the man page. 15:38 magnuse nope, it will create then for you 15:38 narcisgarcia But --create-db will need a usr&pwd too. 15:38 magnuse it's in man koha-create: "Pre-selected database credentials are read from this file, if it exists. The format for this file is instancename:username:passwd:database. Database is optional, but the other three are required if you want to use pre-determined database user credentials." 15:37 magnuse it's much easier to use --create-db... 15:37 narcisgarcia In which format? 15:37 magnuse narcisgarcia: looks like you should have put the username and password in /etc/koha/passwd 15:36 magnuse see the commit message here: http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commit;h=297d22459f670212624d22a0e48447799004935b 15:36 magnuse i think jcamins_away would know more about those options, if he were around 15:36 narcisgarcia The wiki guide doesn't talk about /etc/koha/passwd 15:35 wizzyrea it gets the webmaster address from apache 15:35 narcisgarcia (didn't ask for them) 15:35 narcisgarcia I don't know from where must it take the webmaster address, and the username&password for MySQL. 15:34 magnuse ah, sorry, my fault, there is such an option 15:34 narcisgarcia For help, please send mail to the webmaster ([no address given]), giving this error message and the time and date of the error. 15:34 narcisgarcia BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/koha/opac/cgi-bin/opac/opac-main.pl line 22. 15:34 narcisgarcia Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/koha/opac/cgi-bin/opac/opac-main.pl line 22. 15:34 narcisgarcia BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Auth.pm line 33. 15:34 narcisgarcia Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Auth.pm line 33. 15:33 narcisgarcia Unknown database 'koha_mydatabase' at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 730. 15:33 magnuse i don't think there is a --use-db option? [--create-db|--request-db|--populate-db] 15:33 narcisgarcia Software error: 15:33 narcisgarcia # And the web interface says: 15:32 narcisgarcia Starting Zebra server for bibliokoha 15:32 narcisgarcia Restarting web server: apache2 ... waiting . 15:32 narcisgarcia Run '/etc/init.d/apache2 reload' to activate new configuration! 15:32 narcisgarcia Enabling site mydatabase 15:32 narcisgarcia cat: /etc/koha/passwd: File or directory doesn't exist 15:32 narcisgarcia and says: 15:31 narcisgarcia (previously created a database in MySQL) 15:31 narcisgarcia sudo koha-create --use-db mydatabase myinstance 15:31 narcisgarcia Have run: 15:31 narcisgarcia I have a problem: 15:27 slef ë more common 15:27 slef ä too 15:27 slef æ is in English too but often transliterated 15:24 narcisgarcia If you have a library in London with 10,000 books catalogued, and you think that sometime can have 1 book in french, only for that book is better that you configure Zebra for French. 15:22 magnuse guess that's true, yes 15:22 narcisgarcia Then, selecting any other language than english is a better option, because all the english characters are ever supported. 15:21 magnuse makes it that much more interesting 15:21 narcisgarcia Most of the european languages (including french, spanish, catalan,..) include the english character set, but have more characters (æñç) and variants (à áâä) 15:20 narcisgarcia For example, Castilian has the "ñ" (HTML ñ), and Catalan has the "ç" 15:19 narcisgarcia In Spain there are different languages: Castilian (known as spanish), Catalan, Euskara, Galician, Asturian, end some others. Not all of them have the same character set. 15:17 narcisgarcia There is no foreign language for me, because there is no language in the moon to index. 15:16 narcisgarcia English is the poorest character map. For spanish is better norwegian than english, but the best can be french. 15:15 wizzyrea lots of libraries have similar situations re: titles and such in foreign languages, and idk what exactly they do, but I am *sure* that *we* just use EN 15:14 magnuse i think i would just use en then, but i can't say i know all the consequences 15:14 narcisgarcia Thanks 15:14 magnuse narcisgarcia: http://www.indexdata.com/zebra/doc/character-map-files.html 15:14 narcisgarcia Well, I'm preparing an international (private) network of libraries, and there will be titles of a lot of countries and languages in the same database/instance. 15:13 wahanui magnuse: I forgot norwegian 15:13 magnuse wahanui: forget norwegian 15:12 wahanui norwegian is, like, the only exception for the workaround bei F Somers 15:12 magnuse norwegian 15:12 narcisgarcia Which language is "nb" ? 15:12 magnuse there are often some spanish people here, but i don't see any now - could ask them what they do 15:12 narcisgarcia But then, if in the same instance librarians catalogue french titles, english titles, and others, what happens? 15:11 magnuse worth a try :-) 15:11 narcisgarcia May I create a file shuch as /etc/koha/zebradb/lang_defs/es/sort-string-utf.chr for spanish? 15:11 magnuse looks like it :-) 15:10 narcisgarcia Is it used at effect of sorting strings? 15:10 narcisgarcia /etc/koha/zebradb/lang_defs/en/sort-string-utf.chr 15:10 narcisgarcia /etc/koha/zebradb/lang_defs/fr/sort-string-utf.chr 15:10 narcisgarcia /etc/koha/zebradb/lang_defs/nb/sort-string-utf.chr 15:10 narcisgarcia I see that there are installed: 15:09 narcisgarcia Most similar to Spanish is French, but lacks of ñ 15:08 magnuse (i think en will probably be ok, though) 15:08 magnuse so choose the one that is most similar to spanish 15:08 magnuse narcisgarcia: it has to do with how "special characters" are mapped 15:08 magnuse or in oter words that the right sort-string-utf.chr is used 15:07 magnuse ah yes, i think it makes sure the zebra config files has the path to the right language here: http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=tree;f=etc/zebradb/lang_defs 15:06 magnuse but i don't remember what it actually does... 15:05 magnuse in Makefile.PL the suggestions are en, fr and nb 15:04 kf not sure about the right codes, I think htere is no specific setting for spanish 15:04 magnuse "Specifies primary language of records that will be indexed by Zebra." 15:04 kf I think perhaps the language that is used for some of the settings - like sorting 15:02 narcisgarcia Does anybody know what implies the ZEBRA_LANGUAGE configuration? 14:43 Oak thanks! 14:43 Oak hmm 14:43 wizzyrea (slow) 14:43 wizzyrea and doesn't seem to be answering 14:43 Oak poky? 14:43 wizzyrea it's pretty poky 14:42 Oak can someone see if this works: 111.68.99.243 14:29 nengard need report help with a report we can run tho find out the average fine paid by anyone whose fines for the year were over $2 at http://paste.koha-community.org/361 14:22 narcisgarcia Does matter if the titles registered will be in german, spanish, russian or else? 14:22 narcisgarcia Does anybody know what implies this language selection? 14:21 narcisgarcia ZEBRA_LANGUAGE, for which the man page says "Primary language for Zebra indexing. Possible values are 'en', 'fr' and 'nb'" 14:21 narcisgarcia I'm completing the decisions about /etc/koha/koha-sites.conf and there is a variable which I want to know better. 14:19 narcisgarcia Hello again 14:19 slef hello user, even 14:19 slef hell user 14:19 user Hello all 14:05 magnuse o/ 14:05 * wizzyrea waves 13:34 libsysguy or they'll forever be destroyed 13:34 libsysguy but don't peek 13:33 libsysguy quantum answers 13:33 magnuse well, we got answers, but we dont know what they are yet either :-) 13:31 schuster I'm baaack.... Laughs maniaclly... Generally that means I will have questions... I just don't know what they are yet! 13:21 vkm i will do some more research 13:20 slef vkm: I agree with kf. Sounds like a bug in the search. Report it to your support provider, or to http://bugs.koha-community.org 13:19 vkm it seems that Book is peeking from 942c where it is commonly used for all record 13:18 vkm only problem is when i will restrict the search by BOOK i will get result of those record which have BOOK in 942c but only reference at 952 13:16 vkm so i am using same type BOOK (BK) in 942c than 952 for different item its ok 13:13 kf in the search, using the itemtype from biblio level for search instead only checking 952 13:13 kf then it's probably a bug 13:13 vkm not biblio record 13:12 vkm its item type 13:12 kf vkm: what is your system preference for item-level_itype set to? 13:10 vkm so when restricting the search by BOOK i got the record having reference only item 13:09 vkm but used 952 for various type to define 13:08 vkm i used BK Book comonly in 942 even the book is reference type so in searching it creates problem 13:07 slef vkm: one biblio with whatever you think will be most common in 942c and items with different 952y item types and item-level item types 13:05 kf vkm: you will get no different answer - use one record and items with different itemtypes - ignore 942 or use the most often used itemtype there. it doesn't matter really 13:04 slef dgl-library: probably a file koha-error_log on the server in a var/log somewhere 13:04 dgl-library magnuse: thanks! I was just reading and re-reading the table of contents of the manual and couldn't find that 13:03 magnuse dgl-library: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Backing_up_Koha ? 13:03 huginn dgl-library: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready 13:03 dgl-library @database dump 13:02 huginn dgl-library: I suck 13:02 dgl-library @backup 13:01 dgl-library slef: are the error logs in Log Viewer? 13:01 vkm if under one biblio than what to enter in 942c field 13:00 vkm please advice i have two books one for reference and another for circulation should i enter it in two different biblio or under one biblio 12:59 dgl-library slef: but about the ods format, you mean? I will check 12:59 dgl-library slef: my mistake, I didn't see, but the subfields are there. 12:58 slef dgl-library: check error logs 12:58 kf dgl-library: uh :( no idea what's wrong and can't test now - sorry :( 12:58 dgl-library kf: sorry! I just saw the other pages 12:57 dgl-library kf: the open office format exported a zero-kb (empty) document every time 12:55 kf dgl-library: then you get a spreadsheet with different pages for fields and subfields to edit 12:55 slef back to this funding bid 12:55 kf dgl-library: hmm, I have not used the xml format yet, I work normally witht he open office format 12:54 slef bah lunch not ready 12:53 dgl-library kf: in the exported XML document, it only shows the MARC field, but not all the subfields 12:52 pastebot "nengard" at 98.114.30.184 pasted "need report help with a report we can run tho find out the average fine paid by anyone whose fines for the year were over $2" (19 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/361 12:46 vkm and if i have only one reference book than again i used 942c for book than in 952 used reference 12:45 narcisgarcia As I said , I'll probably use MARC21, and probably in UK will use the Euro currency... he, he.. 12:45 vkm at present under one record i entered as in 942c BOOK than in 952 as Reference,reserve and again BOOK 12:44 narcisgarcia I'm going to lunch in the spanish time (near Italy, and seeing the same sea) 12:43 vkm if i have 3 copy of same book , reference, reserve, general book for issue now how to enter it 12:43 narcisgarcia Well, to Italy I can go with own car in the same time. 12:43 dgl-library narcisgarcia: lunch in which country today? 12:42 slef narcisgarcia: yes, but not to Italy from any part of Spain. 12:42 narcisgarcia Going to lunch... have a nice day. 12:42 slef vkm: default item type 942$c is pretty much mandatory but imported records often omit it. 12:41 slef dgl-library: kf: does bugzilla not allow openID login yet? :( 12:41 narcisgarcia Of course... 12:41 dgl-library narcisgarcia: only joking 12:40 narcisgarcia (and this makes to doubt about UNIMARC) 12:40 narcisgarcia dgl-library: no, it's because we are very near. 12:40 vkm please tell me 942c is mandatory 12:40 dgl-library narcisgarcia: ¡presumido! 12:40 dgl-library kf: so thanks! 12:40 narcisgarcia Where I am, I can go on bycicle to a french library and return to spain the same morning. 12:40 dgl-library kf: but the other formats worked fine. 12:39 dgl-library kf: I really need to register with Bugzilla. Found a bug: Export to OpenDocument spreadsheet yields a zero-kb file. 12:39 * slef goes to lunch 12:39 vkm but i have used BK in all record in 942c 12:39 narcisgarcia (without floating libraries) 12:39 slef narcisgarcia: so what? We're still Europe. 12:38 narcisgarcia There is a lot of water between UK and ES. 12:38 slef narcisgarcia: no, UK uses MARC21. 12:38 vkm but when i limit to search by BK Book item opac shows those record which is having REF only 12:37 narcisgarcia All european countries around Spain use UNIMARC (France, Portugal, Italia). Probably I'll use MARC21 because of matching libraries in Spain and may be more wide used in the world (?) 12:37 vkm circulation fines are workinfg fine 12:36 vkm already in system preference my question is i am using same item code BK in 942c and 952 also at tha same time under same record use REF for reference also 12:36 magnuse yay! 12:36 Oak magnuse++ 12:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8008 trivial, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Needs Signoff , Fix typo in man page for koha-create 12:35 magnuse bug 8008 is a super-easy signoff, just saying :-) 12:35 vkm dear kf item type is set to specific 12:34 dgl-library One more question: Our staff client is working fine, but there is no OPAC. How do I turn it on? 12:34 dgl-library kf: thanks, I'll give it a try, I think 12:34 kf it was introduced with 3.6 12:33 kf dgl-library: only checking you have the feature - it's in there :) 12:33 tajoli SQL is fast but you can do big mistakes 12:33 dgl-library 3.06.04.000 12:33 dgl-library kf: the current stable release. (3.6.??) 12:33 vkm ok i got kf 12:32 wahanui kf: excuse me? 12:32 kf wahanui: not this time :) 12:32 kf dgl-library: which verion of koha are you using? 12:32 wahanui another option is to use the packages 12:32 dgl-library tajoli: another option! 12:32 dgl-library kf: wow. so I have to do it step by step? it could take ……… uh, no, I didn't know about that 12:32 tajoli Or you can use SQL 12:32 kf dgl-library: have you tried the export options for frameworks? you can use spreadsheets for editing, that makes it a bit faster 12:32 vkm where is the option to set item type in system preference 12:31 kf ... 12:31 kf narcisgarcia: it's the way standards work it seems 12:31 kf dgl-library: no sorry, you can't copy fields over 12:31 narcisgarcia Deustchland MARC21, France UNIMARC, España MARC21,... Europe mixed. 12:31 kf but overall Ithink marc21 is more widely used... from what I know 12:31 dgl-library I've got a question about MARC frameworks… We're using the Quick framework, and I'd like to add a MARC field from the Default framework. But it has many subfields. Is there any easy way to import that MARC field into the Quick framework with all the subfields? 12:30 kf UNIMARC 12:30 narcisgarcia And in France... what do they use? 12:30 kf perhaps if you migrate data it's worth finding out what you get from the libraries 12:30 kf narcisgarcia: fields are different for both formats 12:30 narcisgarcia Hello dgl-library 12:30 kf ... the Biblioteca Nacional de España (National Library of Spain) has decided to adopt the MARC 21 format... 12:30 narcisgarcia Then it's a field definition matter... 12:30 dgl-library Hi #koha 12:30 kf I think marc21 should be right according to this: http://www.bne.es/en/Bibliotecarios/NormativaBNE/ 12:29 kf if that was the queston 12:29 kf no both are utf8 12:29 narcisgarcia MARC21/UNIMARC variants affect to string encode or also to fields? 12:28 kf I think perhaps use marc21 then 12:28 kf like the german national library 12:28 kf it depends really on which sources you want to use, for exampl library of congress will provide records in mARC21 12:27 narcisgarcia I prefer to use the most flexible and wide used variant of MARC than using the local preferred. 12:27 kf narcisgarcia: there are differences in unimarc and marc21 but both support lots of different materials 12:27 kf vkm: if you use itemtypes on item level, it's not really important what you set in 942 - use the most common itemtype there 12:26 narcisgarcia I'm installing Koha for an international library network, and I need that supports a lot of different materials. 12:26 kf vkm: I tried to explain it 12:26 kf unimarc is used in italy and in france I think, germany is using marc21 12:26 vkm india 12:26 kf hmnot sure about spain 12:26 kf narcisgarcia: if you want to use unimarc or marc21 will depend on that :) 12:26 narcisgarcia In Spain 12:25 kf narcisgarcia: where are you located? 12:24 vkm but For general book i use same code as 942c 12:23 vkm i am using 942c for biblio record and dividing it in 952 as reference, reserve 12:22 vkm please advice i have same 3 books have reference,reserve and general book how to enter it 12:21 narcisgarcia Is MARC21 designed observing UNIMARC, is UNIMARC designed observing MARC21, or are independent forks? 12:20 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8008 trivial, P5 - low, ---, magnus, NEW , Typo in man page for koha-create 12:20 magnuse Bug 8008 12:20 narcisgarcia Aha, left the "r" 12:20 magnuse narcisgarcia: it's noRmarc :-) 12:19 francharb ;) 12:19 narcisgarcia Ok for the last one. 12:19 narcisgarcia It's for ZEBRA_MARC_FORMAT 12:18 francharb nomarc is for norway marc 12:18 francharb narcisgarcia, nope 12:18 vkm field 942c in koha 12:17 narcisgarcia I've read that "marc21" is a fusion of MARC from USA and Canada, and allowing Unicode. "unimarc" is another revision used in Europe (Unicode?). And I suppose "nomarc" refers to don't use MARC standards, right? 12:17 vkm please tell me 942 is mandatory 12:16 francharb s/leader/biblio leader 12:16 narcisgarcia magnuse, thanks. 12:16 francharb (what a question!) 12:16 francharb is it possible to create an index on a part of the leader? 12:15 magnuse narcisgarcia: i can report the bug if you dn't want to 12:15 francharb i got a zebra questoin 12:15 francharb hi all 12:15 magnuse yeah, they do show up 12:15 narcisgarcia (for my previous bad experiences with that software) 12:14 narcisgarcia magnuse, Does that installation of bugzilla publish the email addresses? 12:13 magnuse hi Amit_Gupta 12:12 Amit_Gupta heya magnuse 12:11 vkm at present what i am doing is i made 942c as books and in 952 i am assigning reference because material is related to book 12:11 magnuse narcisgarcia: want to report a bug for it? http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/ 12:10 narcisgarcia Thanks. 12:10 narcisgarcia Ok, then the man page for koha-create is to be corrected. 12:10 magnuse narcisgarcia: /etc/koha/koha-sites.conf is correct 12:09 magnuse narcisgarcia: let me check 12:09 narcisgarcia Which is the correct? With "s" or without? 12:08 narcisgarcia And I see more variables: OPACPORT, OPACPREFIX, OPACSUFFIX, ZEBRA_MARC_FORMAT, ZEBRA_LANGUAGE 12:08 vkm means 942c is not mandatory 12:08 magnuse narcisgarcia: looks like a typo 12:08 kf if you see weird behaviour perhaps your system preference is set to the wrong value? 12:08 narcisgarcia Oops, in the wiki talks about /etc/koha/koha-sites.conf but in the man page says /etc/koha/koha-site.conf (without the "s") 12:07 kf set it to specific items and (almost) forget about 942 12:07 kf if you want to have different itemtypes for the items on one record 12:07 kf there are differnt ways to work with Koha, the system preference is crucial 12:07 kf vk 12:07 kf vkm: 942 is only a default value, if your item-level_itypes system preference is set to specific item 12:05 vkm so when i limit the search by 942 (BOOK) under which there are several type of books like reserve,reference in 952 so it shows like that 12:03 vkm please reply i think the 942 item is commonly used for all the items in code 952 under one biblio record 12:02 vkm i think book is commonly used for biblio record for material type so it is searching all reference, reserve etc when i limit by book 12:00 vkm should i not use BK code in 952 11:59 vkm book (BK) is used in 942 and 952 both 11:59 Oak jcamins++ 11:58 vkm 942 i am using in biblio record as a book only than separating in 952 like reference 11:58 magnuse jcamins++ 11:57 jcamins_away :) 11:57 Oak this will do. 11:57 Oak jcamins_away, yes! awesome. 11:56 vkm but if i limit by reserve,reference it shows only that 11:56 jcamins_away There's a table with item information on the regular view in the intranet that lists all the barcodes. 11:55 vkm but at the time of searching by limiting book only it shows all reserve reference 11:55 jcamins_away Easy as pie. 11:55 jcamins_away Oak: yes, just view the record in the intranet. 11:55 Oak is their an easier way jcamins_away ? less steps? 11:55 mtj jcamins_away: yep :) 11:54 vkm i am using 942 for type of book and separating in 952 in case of multi copy like reference reserve etc 11:54 jcamins_away Oak: no... 11:54 mtj but is OPAC display page only - not search-results page 11:54 jcamins_away mtj: that's the details page, not the results page. 11:54 Oak search an item, click "Add/Edit Items", click "Edit" on each copy ... 11:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6774 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, amit.gupta, Failed QA , Display barcode on OPAC detail page 11:53 mtj bug 6774 11:53 Oak i know 11:53 jcamins_away Oak: it's no harder than the OPAC. 11:53 Oak jcamins_away, well yes i'll teach him how to find out the barcodes in intranet then. yes that's the only way. 11:53 jcamins_away mtj: I have not seen anything like that submitted in the last few years. 11:52 mtj ... but Savitra gives no bug number 11:52 Oak who does not know Koha 11:52 jcamins_away Oak: why don't you have the staff member use the intranet? 11:52 Oak by staff member i mean a data entry guy... 11:52 vkm hello all 11:52 Oak well, I'm about to print barcodes on a sticker sheet, and was wondering how to paste them... i mean a staff member should be able to type the barcode into opac, see the book title, and copy number, and paste that barcode on the book. 11:51 mtj hmm, Savitra says Nucsoft has submitted a patch 11:51 jcamins_away If OSS Labs submits their code, you should definitely test it and sign off if it works. 11:50 Oak hmmm 11:50 mtj Oak: that feature has not been submitted to Koha yet 11:50 magnuse ok 11:50 jcamins_away Item info is available. 11:50 magnuse yup 11:50 jcamins_away Multiple items would make things really ugly. 11:50 magnuse or is the item info not available to that? 11:50 jcamins_away Well, sort of. 11:50 jcamins_away Yeah, that'd work. 11:50 magnuse you could add it by editing the xslt for opac results, i guess? 11:50 jcamins_away No, there's no reason not to do it, it's just that no one has wanted it. ;) 11:49 Oak ah okay. 11:49 jcamins_away No one has cared enough to add it. 11:49 Oak i mean there must be some good reason? 11:49 Oak why not? 11:49 jcamins_away Oak: yes, that can't be done. 11:49 magnuse jcamins_away: yeah, probably 11:49 Oak to display on opac results without logging in 11:49 jcamins_away magnuse: 'cause it's cool? 11:49 magnuse ah, why was i thinking barcode-as-image? 11:48 Oak the guy with the question was talking about what i want 11:48 Oak nah i know that one 11:48 jcamins_away Also, that's on the details page not the results page. 11:47 jcamins_away Oak: that's only for logged-in users. 11:47 Oak it should have been in 3.6.4, no? 11:47 Oak that was in Nov 14, 2011 11:47 Oak magnuse, http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.com/Barcodes-in-OPAC-Display-td4983784.html 11:46 magnuse unless yu use 3.8 and create images for the barcodes that you display with the new supper cool "local images" functionality 11:45 magnuse well, i'm pretty sure you can't display the barcode 11:45 Oak hmm 11:45 magnuse Oak: not sure 11:45 mtj ... and on any ports you want too 11:44 magnuse narcisgarcia: i think that should work yes 11:44 mtj well, as weird as apache will allow them to be 11:44 mtj narcisgarcia: you can configure your koha urls to be as weird as you want them too 11:43 Oak wait, found a result in google 11:43 Oak magnuse, can I make barcode appear on OPAC search result? 11:43 narcisgarcia Then get (public) library.example.net and (librarians) admin.library.example.net 11:43 Oak magnuse 11:42 narcisgarcia Can I use a dot "." in INTRAPREFIX ? For example "admin." ? 11:38 magnuse nice 11:37 narcisgarcia http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.6_on_Debian_Squeeze#Quick_Start 11:37 narcisgarcia Ok, comments added to: 11:36 magnuse Oak 11:34 kf you can enforce login for search with the configuraton, if you are worried about that 11:34 magnuse narcisgarcia: yes 11:34 magnuse the public interface has to be on port 80 11:34 narcisgarcia The public interface always use the port 80? 11:33 kf not the opac 11:33 kf narcisgarcia: no, only the intranet 11:33 narcisgarcia nengard, good morning. 11:33 magnuse goo morning sounds fun too ;-) 11:33 nengard :) 11:33 narcisgarcia Setting INTRAPORT to X, will also the public interface use this port? 11:33 nengard good morning 11:33 nengard or 11:33 nengard goo morning 11:33 magnuse kia ora nengard 11:32 narcisgarcia Ok, It's only a possibility. 11:32 magnuse but you can have more then one library in one instance 11:32 kf they are completely independent 11:32 magnuse no, two instances have separate databases 11:31 narcisgarcia One detail: If I create two instances, they share the database, but they are independent libraries with independent books? 11:29 magnuse narcisgarcia++ 11:29 narcisgarcia I'm more happy now, thanks to magnuse. I will contribute to this part of the wiki. 11:29 magnuse liw: rangi has some packages for ubuntu somewhere, but i think those are the only ones 11:29 kf liw: I don't think is is currently 11:29 magnuse narcisgarcia: correct 11:29 mtj ok, now i shut up... :) 11:28 * magnuse thinks liw deserves a ton of credit, not blame! 11:28 liw is Koha packaged for any other distro than Debian? might be good to generalize those scripts if so 11:28 narcisgarcia The INTRA* variables only refer to librarian interface and doesn't affect to public acces, right? 11:28 magnuse ;-) 11:28 mtj aah, i take that back then! :) 11:28 magnuse moahaha ;-) 11:28 magnuse mtj: http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=tree;f=debian/scripts;h=0cae3c8bb797b0242a10b63afe81ee53a40661a6;hb=HEAD 11:27 mtj oops :) really? 11:27 magnuse yup 11:27 narcisgarcia Then I need first to setup /etc/koha/koha-sites.conf and after run koha-create anyway. 11:27 magnuse mtj: yes they do 11:27 mtj magnuse: the install tools do not exist in the Koha git repo 11:26 magnuse narcisgarcia: yup 11:26 narcisgarcia As I understand until now, /etc/koha/koha-sites.conf is a template to be used by koha-create, right? 11:26 magnuse how are they 3-rd party? 11:26 * liw takes full blame for this :-) 11:26 mtj so, strange design in 3rd-party Koha installation tools... ;) 11:25 magnuse mtj: not sure i'd agree with that :-) 11:25 narcisgarcia OK. 11:25 mtj narcisgarcia: these installation tools are not Koha - they are separate from Koha 11:25 narcisgarcia Improvement to suggest: replace current variables for: PUBLICPORT, PUBLICDOMAIN, ADMINPORT, ADMINDOMAIN. 11:24 liw there's a Koha hackfest coming up in Edinburgh, June; improving the initial setup of stuff with the Debian packages would be a good thing to work on, perhaps 11:23 magnuse you're wlcome to suggest improvements! :-) 11:23 magnuse hehe 11:23 narcisgarcia Strange design in Koha. 11:23 magnuse yes! 11:23 narcisgarcia Oook, the INTRASUFFIX is to add a suffix to the subdomain word (?) 11:23 magnuse ah, i might have misread you 11:22 magnuse if you want to change from koha1-admin.example.org to admin.example.org 11:22 narcisgarcia They are different same as my last example. 11:22 magnuse but you can always tweak the apache site configuration afterwards 11:21 magnuse for koha1 it can create koha1.example.org and e.g. koha1-admin.example.org 11:21 magnuse you can't tell koha-create to create totally different subdomains 11:21 narcisgarcia in http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.6_on_Debian_Squeeze talks only about /etc/koha/koha-sites.conf 11:21 magnuse there is a small problem there, though 11:20 magnuse not /etc/koha/koha-sites.conf, but /etc/koha/sites/yoursitename/koha-conf.xml 11:20 narcisgarcia It's right for me to use only the port 80. 11:20 narcisgarcia And both will share the same file /etc/koha/koha-sites.conf ? 11:19 narcisgarcia Then, better I can make a public.example.net + librarians.example.net 11:19 magnuse no, no link from the public interface to the librarian interface 11:18 magnuse INTRAPORT, INTRAPREFIX and INTRASUFFIX are for telling koha-create what you want it to be 11:18 narcisgarcia Ok, there is not a link like "librarian login" in the same public interface... 11:18 magnuse but you could also run it on e.g. koha1-admin.example.org 11:18 magnuse what most people do is run the librarian interface on port 8080 11:17 magnuse one interface for the public and one for the librarians 11:17 magnuse no, each installation has two interfaces with the same database 11:17 narcisgarcia ? 11:17 narcisgarcia What implies "one interface" or "two interfaces" ? Will share the same database, or will be a "multisite" use of Koha (unrelated between) 11:17 magnuse as far as i rememeber, you have to create /etc/koha/koha-sites.conf 11:16 narcisgarcia Then, in the "Quick Start" step of the wiki guide for 3.6, I better can avoid editing "/etc/koha/koha-sites.conf" and use koha-create, right? 11:16 magnuse now, koha has two interfaces 11:16 magnuse if you want one koha site at example.net and another at koha.example.net, i think you first need to set DOMAIN=".net" and create an instance "example", then set DOMAIN="example.net" and create an instance called "koha" 11:15 narcisgarcia Ok. 11:15 narcisgarcia Then, the minimum domain expression is the top level (.net .org ...) 11:14 magnuse i think i would do it the first way 11:14 narcisgarcia I need to create "koha2.example" to result in http://koha2.example.net/ , right? 11:13 magnuse hm, i never tried that, but yes i think that should work 11:13 magnuse if you then create koha2, it will become koha2.example.org 11:13 narcisgarcia If I specify DOMAIN=".net" then I can create an instance "example" for an URL http://example.net/" ? 11:13 magnuse to do that you have to set DOMAIN=".example.org" 11:12 magnuse you can then create an instance called koha1 and have that available as koha1.example.org 11:12 magnuse so lets say your domain is example.org 11:12 magnuse you have to give each instance a name, and that will corespond to a subdomain 11:12 magnuse no 11:12 narcisgarcia And can I allow any name (*)? 11:11 magnuse you can have as many subdomains with koha on them as you want, yes 11:11 narcisgarcia And koha1.example.org library.example.net ? 11:11 magnuse the variables you asked about are for telling koha-create what you want the urls of the opac and the intranet to be 11:10 magnuse you can have koha.example.org 11:10 magnuse using subdomains is usually a good idea 11:10 narcisgarcia Yes, I have an internet domain name, but Does koha allow to use different domains or subdomains? 11:09 magnuse ok 11:09 magnuse do you have a domain name for the server that you are installing on? 11:08 narcisgarcia This Debian server i installed only for Koha. 11:08 magnuse if you are not using it for something else 11:08 magnuse disabling the default apache site is a good idea, yes 11:08 narcisgarcia Then I need to remove default Apache profile, If I will not use any other service in the same server? 11:07 magnuse you can have many instances on the same server 11:07 magnuse yeah, similar 11:06 narcisgarcia A Koha instance is like an Apache site profile? 11:06 magnuse that gives you an overview of what the koha-*commands do 11:06 magnuse narcisgarcia: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Commands_provided_by_the_Debian_packages 11:06 narcisgarcia deb http://debian.koha-community.org/koha squeeze main 11:05 narcisgarcia Yes, I've used the repository documented in the wiki 11:05 narcisgarcia Thanks. 11:05 narcisgarcia The sense of a chat is the live talking. 11:05 wahanui it has been said that packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian 11:05 kf packages? 11:05 kf I think you are installing using hte packages, so perhaps this is of some help for you 11:04 liw my e-mail server accepts messages even when I am asleep; so does my irc client 11:04 narcisgarcia Ok. 11:04 kf and a lot of people are at work too 11:04 kf a lotof people stay connected 11:04 kf narcisgarcia: it's different here 11:03 narcisgarcia Yes, I'm in Europe. But when I go to sleep I don't leave chat connections on, in the same way I don't leave a phone call open. 11:03 liw however, being pushy and aggressive when asking for advice from a community is often a good way to cause resentment in those who would help 11:03 kf liw++ 11:02 liw much of the Koha community is in the US (still asleep) or in NZ/Australia (going to sleep if not asleep already); Europeans are probalby having lunch right now, and that's why it's silent here 11:02 narcisgarcia Once seen that this IRC channel doesn't work, I'm going to try with a mailing list/forum. 11:01 narcisgarcia Simple. 11:00 narcisgarcia I'm trying to use a software and I came to a support resource advertised in the community web. 10:59 narcisgarcia What come to do the 40+ users connected to this channel? 10:59 narcisgarcia Am I wrong in some detail? 10:59 * Oak goes for lunch 10:58 Oak are you a troll? 10:57 narcisgarcia I understand that this is a Koha support channel. Do you need support? 10:56 Oak what do you mean? 10:54 narcisgarcia Are you looking for other help? 10:53 narcisgarcia Oak, thanks for the try. 10:53 narcisgarcia Yes, of course my server has a public IP and I can associate internet domain names to it. 10:52 narcisgarcia (this is a strange channel, with 45 silent users) 10:52 Oak sorry, I have never done that, and I am not sure how you are doing that... your server has an Internet IP? anyway, i hope someone might be able to help... 10:51 narcisgarcia DOMAIN: Can I specify "*" to accept any domain? 10:50 narcisgarcia My installation is to be used from internet and LAN, but I'm now working on internet. 10:49 Oak on Internet or on a local neteork? 10:49 narcisgarcia Yes, I'm on my desktop making the installation on a remote web server. 10:48 narcisgarcia Can help me some of the utilities which I see installed on /usr/sbin/ ? 10:48 Oak is it a remote server? 10:48 narcisgarcia (is not localhost; another server) 10:47 narcisgarcia "The requested URL / was not found on this server." 10:46 Oak what do you get when you type http://localhost on your browser 10:44 narcisgarcia And I don't find anywhere documented the variables DOMAIN, INTRAPORT, INTRAPREFIX, INTRASUFFIX. 10:44 narcisgarcia http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.6_on_Debian_Squeeze#Quick_Start 10:44 narcisgarcia I'm at this point: 10:44 Oak okay, i'll try to help 10:44 narcisgarcia I'm trying to install Koha in a Debian 6 server, and I have some doubt to ask. 10:43 Oak hello narcisgarcia 10:43 narcisgarcia Hello Oak 10:38 narcisgarcia My installation is to be used from internet and LAN. 10:37 narcisgarcia - What means the proposed value "-intra" for INTRASUFFIX? 10:37 narcisgarcia - Can I specify "*" to accept any domain? 10:36 narcisgarcia And I don't find anywhere documented the variables DOMAIN, INTRAPORT, INTRAPREFIX, INTRASUFFIX. 10:35 narcisgarcia http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.6_on_Debian_Squeeze#Quick_Start 10:35 narcisgarcia I'm at this point: 10:34 narcisgarcia Hello all, I'm trying to install Koha in a Debian 6 server, and I have some doubt to ask. 10:03 Amit_Gupta heya kf hdl :) 09:28 magnuse bonjour! 09:25 kf hi clrh and hdl :) 09:24 clrh hello 09:14 kf gaetan_B: asking for a raise? ;) 09:14 kf oh? 09:07 * gaetan_B is at an important meeting ;) 09:06 gaetan_B :) 09:06 wahanui gaetan_B is, like, working at Biblibre and did the nice new start page together with asaurat 09:06 kf gaetan_B? 09:06 kf gaetan_B is working at Biblibre and did the nice new start page together with asaurat 09:06 kf gaetan_B works at Biblibre and did the nice new start page together with asaurat 09:05 wahanui kf: I forgot gaetan_b 09:05 kf forget gaetan_B 09:03 Amit_Gupta heya wahanui 09:03 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7693 minor, P5 - low, ---, gaetan.boisson, Pushed to Master , clear screen button misaligned 09:03 wahanui gaetan_B is probably looking at bug 7693 09:03 Amit_Gupta heya gaetan_B 08:43 kf oh - yeah that's a good video :) 08:41 magnuse ;-) 08:41 magnuse can your ILS do this? http://vimeo.com/39461899 07:35 rangi nope quite old, but yeah cool anyway :) 07:34 magnuse but cool anyway 07:34 magnuse not quite up to date? 07:31 rangi http://koha.maktabat-online.org/ 07:27 magnuse ata marie rangi 07:23 kf evening rangi 07:23 rangi evening 07:20 magnuse hiya samuel 07:19 samuel hello everybody! 07:18 sophie_m hello magnuse 07:18 magnuse bonjour sophie_m 07:18 sophie_m hi #koha 07:15 magnuse guten morgen kf 07:15 kf good morning #koha 07:08 esofiane Hi everybody 07:00 magnuse :-) 07:00 magnuse Oak 06:57 Oak magnuse 06:56 magnuse ooh 06:56 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 12.0°C (8:30 AM CEST on April 25, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Rising). 06:56 magnuse @wunder marseille 06:51 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 4.0°C (8:20 AM CEST on April 25, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Steady). 06:51 magnuse @wunder boo 06:51 magnuse kia ora #koha! 06:51 julian_m hello 06:46 Oak kia ora #koha 06:34 alex_a bonjour 06:30 cait hmmm 06:29 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 7.9°C (8:24 AM CEST on April 25, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady). 06:29 cait @wunder Konstanz 06:28 cait hi francharb :) 06:25 francharb good morning 06:08 vkm should i keep (BOOK) for only 942 and make separate for 952 fields instead of using code of 942c 06:05 vkm i want to also clarify that BOOK type is common in biblio 06:02 vkm i use 942c for material type (BOOK) and if there are many copy we divide it in Reference, Book bank, Books in field 952 type but at the time of searching Book only from opac it shows reference, book bank, books also but work well when selecting reference only 05:57 vkm hello all 05:16 cait hi #koha 04:22 vkm i am using Book(BK) for field 942$c than dividing it into three item type if there are 3 copy of the same book in field 952 as reference, Book, General but at the time of searching BOOK only in opac system gives result of all but when restricting with reference system gives only reference item please tell me why, is it may be bcz BOOK is comonly used in bibli 03:45 vkm hello good morning all 02:06 druthb o/