Time Nick Message 23:11 mtj thanks, i got it sorted... :) 22:31 rangi unlikely, being sunday evening 22:29 mtj just a quicky... :) 22:29 mtj anyone from bywater about? 21:55 cait tell them? 21:55 cait so... don't go there? 21:55 jcamins_away And it doesn't matter which one I go to. 21:55 jcamins_away They always sell me the wrong anchor at Home Depot. 21:55 cait ok, that would have been my next suggestion 21:55 jcamins_away I just was sold the wrong one. 21:55 jcamins_away cait: true, but the right anchor would work, too. 21:54 cait the right glue I mean 21:54 cait you would be surprised what glue can do... 21:53 jcamins_away I don't think so. 21:53 jcamins_away cait: lol 21:50 cait :P 21:50 cjh I can still ssh in, success. 21:50 cait glue? 21:50 cait jcamins_away: I am sure there is a way 21:50 cjh isnt a huge deal if it dies today, I wont be sshing between now and tomorrow morning. 21:50 jcamins_away cait: easy for you to say. You don't have a shelf sitting on the floor, unmountable. 21:49 rangi just setting srdjan up at your desk, i think we did it without knocking your machine off the network ;) 21:49 cjh too slow huh :( 21:49 rangi never mind, sorted :) 21:49 cait but fudge/cookies/general jaredness tops plaster walls 21:49 cjh rangi: yeah whats up? 21:49 cait yeah 21:49 jcamins_away cait: at least this building wouldn't have these stupid plaster walls. 21:48 cait I mean... not walls like that, but no fudge for us 21:48 cait ... not sure that woudl be good 21:47 jcamins_away If only I had been there for the first half of the twentieth century. 21:47 jcamins_away I would've said "you have got to be kidding me. That's the stupidest idea I've ever heard." 21:47 * jcamins_away would not have said that. 21:45 cait lol 21:45 jcamins_away Seriously, who said "I know, let's invent a substance to make walls out of that we can't attach things to"? 21:42 rangi yup 21:42 jcamins_away It is my considered opinion that plaster walls are a terrible idea. 21:38 rangi cjh: you there? 20:40 cait :) 20:39 kathryn hehe 20:37 cait see, he doesn't like cookies! 20:37 huginn cait: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready 20:37 cait huginn botsnack cookie 20:37 cait hm 20:37 cait !huginn botsnack cookie 20:37 cait it applies to both - sometimes 20:36 rangi well thats huginn not wahanui :) 20:33 kathryn ah well that makes me feel comfortable : ) 20:33 cait see, ... wahanui is a little stupid sometimes 20:32 huginn cait: Error: No such location could be found. 20:32 cait @wunder berlin 20:32 cait but 20:32 cait hm seems you have 20:32 huginn cait: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 15.0°C (8:00 AM NZST on April 23, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.39 in 1029 hPa (Steady). 20:32 cait @wunder wellington, nz 20:32 kathryn do I need to say NZ too? 20:31 kathryn : ( 20:31 huginn kathryn: Error: No such location could be found. 20:31 kathryn @wunder Wellington 20:31 cait it's spring here now, it was a pretty nice and sunny day 20:31 cait :) 20:30 kathryn thought you might say that! 20:30 cait not that cold 20:30 cait heh 20:28 kathryn bRRRR 20:27 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 3.3°C (10:25 PM CEST on April 22, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). 20:27 cait @wunder Konstanz 20:27 cait :) 20:25 kathryn good morning cait! 20:21 cait morning kathryn 18:47 ecc Anyone? 18:45 ecc Anyone? 18:45 ecc it says on the wiki it is not recommended to use that one 18:44 ecc nope 18:42 ecc nvm 18:42 ecc i think i figured it out 18:41 ecc i looked at the wiki but its only for debian or ubuntu-lucid 18:40 ecc through a package 18:40 ecc can anyone tell me how to install koha on ubuntu? 18:40 ecc hello 17:55 cait ash yes 17:53 magnus_afk the book has 3.00.06 as the current stable version... 16:15 cait have a nice sunday 16:15 leander got to go, cu 16:07 leander :) 16:07 cait aw :) 16:06 leander das musste mal sein zum sonntag :) 16:06 * leander .oO(bsz rulez) 16:06 jcamins Yeah, I'd stick with the manual. 16:05 cait I think it's 3.0 16:04 cait but I think people might come across it looking for something 16:04 cait I never really took a closer look at the book 16:04 cait a publisher 16:04 jcamins What's packt? 16:04 leander thank you 16:03 leander lovely 16:03 cait https://wiki.bsz-bw.de/doku.php?id=l-team:koha:koha-handbuch:start 16:03 leander oh, i need it immediately - as always *fg* 16:02 cait koha is moving fast, so it's probably not of much help by now 16:02 cait there is a koha book from packt - but I am not sure how current it is 16:02 leander i'll check both, thanks 16:02 cait but it really needs updating 16:01 leander something written? 16:01 cait i should also point to our wiki 16:01 leander maybe, a manual 16:01 wahanui video tutorials are http://bywatersolutions.com/section/tutorial-videos/ 16:01 cait video tutorials? 16:01 leander yes 16:01 wahanui rumour has it manual is at http://www.koha-community.org/documentation 16:01 cait manual? 16:01 leander about... mhm.. cataloging and loans 16:01 cait about using koha or about installation? 16:01 leander thelike 16:00 cait you mean tutorials for librarians? 16:00 leander is there a tutorial for non-technicians out there? 16:00 cait they tend to cause confusion 16:00 cait be warned, wahanui and huginn are the beloved koha bots 16:00 wahanui thanks cait :) 16:00 cait wahanui botsnack cookie 16:00 leander hehe 16:00 wahanui another thing is different 16:00 leander another thing... 15:59 leander i'll try to solve it from the apache side then 15:58 leander ic 15:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3717 minor, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, REOPENED , staffClientBaseURL and OPACBaseURL should be used 15:57 cait bug 3717 15:57 cait yes, i think there is a comment on a bug about that from |Lupin| 15:56 leander haveing a prefix /koha/ seems to be not so easy 15:56 leander cait, anything that goes from / would be no problem 15:56 cait they work on separate urls 15:56 cait only not sure how it's done 15:56 cait where both intranet and opac are https - so it's possible 15:55 cait that work with 80 and 443 as ports 15:55 cait but we have installations using https 15:55 jcamins I only found it in the desk after going through the boxes in the little room. 15:55 cait and now sure about the problem - because apache and me are not the best friends 15:55 jcamins However, I had the same idea you did. 15:55 cait see, I don't know your apartment that well ) 15:55 cait oh 15:54 jcamins cait: it was in Shari's desk. 15:54 cait I vote for some unpacked box in the little storage room 15:54 cait i guess it's not in the kitchen, because you have a map for that 15:54 cait the label printer? 15:54 leander mh 15:54 cait hm 15:52 leander hm 15:50 jcamins leander: in that case, no, it shouldn't require restarting anything. 15:50 jcamins Found it. It was in Shari's desk. 15:49 leander no, i think not 15:49 jcamins Are you using memcached? 15:48 leander do i have to restart something in order to make the baseurl change take effect? 15:48 leander ;) 15:48 jcamins It seemed like a good idea. :/ 15:48 jcamins leander: oh, phooey. 15:48 jcamins I have so far ruled out my perfectly-organized kitchen. 15:48 leander "sorry, you meant" is a redirect and we would get into the same trap 15:48 jcamins cait: that question was for you... leander can't be expected to know my apartment well enough yet. ;) 15:47 jcamins If I were a label printer, where would I hide? 15:46 jcamins I feel like I've seen someone do that. 15:46 jcamins Can't you set it up so that mod_rewrite tells the browser "no, sorry, you meant https://myhost/koha? 15:45 leander it would, the browser thinks it would talk to https://koha.myhost and thats not https://myhost 15:45 leander looks like changing the baseurl doesnt have any effect 15:45 jcamins leander: what I'm proposing wouldn't require another one. 15:43 leander yes, but i dont have a ssl cert for anoter subdomain ;) 15:42 jcamins In fact, I just made all that up. 15:42 * jcamins isn't an Apache expert. 15:42 jcamins Right? 15:42 jcamins But if you combine option one with mod_rewrite, it *should* appear to the user as if they're just browsing in myhost/koha. 15:42 jcamins leander: I don't think the second option will work. 15:42 jcamins I don't actually know how to do that, but it makes sense to me. 15:42 jcamins (and continue using the proxy. 15:42 jcamins Then set staffClientBaseURL to koha.myhost? 15:41 leander from / to /koha/ 15:41 leander yes, either just use another subdomain... or change the baseurl 15:39 jcamins Suggestion... do something with mod_rewrite to translate koha.myhost to myhost/koha? 15:38 jcamins Right. 15:38 leander in the html 15:38 leander but theres a problem with the absolute urls 15:38 jcamins Yeah, I think that might be the only option. 15:37 leander im currently proxying https://myhost/koha to http://localhost:8080 15:37 jcamins I have no idea, actually. 15:37 leander yes 15:37 jcamins You have other things on https://myhost/somethingelse? 15:36 leander how can i achieve that? 15:36 jcamins Got it. 15:36 jcamins Ohhh. 15:36 leander i just want the intranet to be accessible through https://myhost/koha 15:36 jcamins In fact, I definitely don't understand the issue. 15:36 leander hm 15:35 jcamins But I may not understand the issue you're trying to solve. 15:35 jcamins leander: I'm wondering why you don't just listen on the port that you want it listening on in the first place. 15:35 leander why not just route through the configured https 15:34 leander and fiddle around with ssl and all that 15:34 leander because I dont want to open another port to the evil internet 15:33 jcamins Why are you proxying the connection at all? 15:32 jcamins Wait, I have a question. 15:32 jcamins I don't know about the http:// versus https:// prefix. 15:32 jcamins If you log back in, I think it should work. 15:32 jcamins leander: yeah, when you change the staffClientBaseURL your login will no longer be valid. 15:31 leander it also says http:// while im using https 15:31 leander hm, when i edit that in the frontend i kick myself out immediately i guess 15:27 jcamins Under staff client. 15:27 jcamins staffClientBaseURL 15:26 leander *searching* 15:25 jcamins Maybe StaffClientBaseURL, maybe something else. 15:25 jcamins I don't remember what it's called exactly. 15:25 jcamins leander: in that case, just search for BaseURL in the sysprefs. 15:24 leander jcamins, i need intranet only for now 15:24 leander s/confure/configure/ 15:24 jcamins leander: yes, see the syspref OPACBaseURL. :) 15:23 leander i configured my apache2:80 to ProxyPass to localhost:8080. that works. but kohas html contains absolut references to the root / - is there an option to confure some kind of base-url or something? 14:16 cait guess there are still enough typos to fix 14:16 cait well... translation script errors 14:16 cait ... and translations install without errors 14:02 magnuse time for lunch... 14:02 magnuse cait++ mveron++ 13:57 cait now time to take care of laundry and my own dinner :) 13:54 cait :) 13:52 mveron cait ++, Yeah! 13:52 cait mveron++ 13:52 jcamins cait++ 13:52 jcamins Hooray! 13:51 cait it's done!!! 13:46 cait 78 words! 13:32 cait lol 13:28 * jcamins ponders what is in aisle two of the supermarket. 13:27 * mveron Ponders if lamb is ready. Has to cook accompagning aspargus 13:21 magnuse hehe 13:20 cait dangerous :) 13:18 cait librarian... + crazy cook... ooh 13:10 jcamins I'm trying to list everything that we buy in a month so that I can turn it into a shopping checklist. 13:10 jcamins No, I'm working on my kitchen directory and exhaustive shopping list. 13:10 cait and now you are baking for us? 13:08 magnuse yay 13:06 jcamins Ooh! I just found my missing glass baking dish. :) 13:01 jcamins :) 13:01 jcamins It's an amazing kitchen. 13:01 jcamins I'm thinking I'll start with a directory, and add a map later. 13:00 jcamins :) 13:00 cait I would even obey the map 13:00 cait jcamins: I would love to use your kitchen :) 12:59 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=737 enhancement, P2, ---, mjr, NEW , Map of library in search system 12:59 magnuse bug 737 12:59 jcamins Otherwise, how will I be able to find my omelet pans? 12:59 jcamins I'm willing to allow other people to use my kitchen, but they have to put things back where they belong. 12:58 cait perhaps you should ponder locks for the cabinets then 12:58 jcamins lol 12:58 cait sure we have a bug for that too 12:58 jcamins cait: yes, and this kitchen is for *me* to use. 12:58 cait magnuse++ love that idea 12:58 cait oh 12:58 magnuse then make a map-module for koha 12:58 Guest1285 ~ 12:58 cait every user its kitchen... every kitchen its user... 12:58 magnuse catalogue all the stuff in koha 12:57 cait use 12:57 magnuse heh 12:57 cait jcamins: you know ranganathan... right? a kitchen is for sue 12:57 cait magnuse++ 12:57 jcamins Make sure no one messes up my perfect kitchen. 12:57 magnuse thanks! 12:57 magnuse jcamins: depends on what you are trying to do :-) 12:57 jcamins :) 12:57 wahanui first question is "What are you trying to do?" or or what is the goal? 12:57 jcamins first question? 12:57 magnuse the first question is? 12:57 magnuse first question is? 12:55 jcamins Thoughts? 12:55 jcamins Right now I'm trying to decide between a directory and a map of my kitchen cabinets. 12:54 cait i don't remember much, but that 12:54 cait marketing course at library school :P 12:53 magnuse hehe 12:53 magnuse ah 12:53 jcamins cait++ 12:53 magnuse yeah, good point! 12:53 jcamins Unique Selling Proposition. :) 12:53 magnuse usp? 12:53 cait I can't think of another ils with that feature :) 12:53 cait it's an usp 12:53 cait well 12:53 cait lol 12:52 jcamins I never felt that feature was missing either, but I can certainly see uses for it. 12:52 magnuse s/ets/etc/ 12:51 magnuse well, i never actually felt koha was missing that feature, but he has done some interesting work on the infrastructure around it, with jeditables ets 12:50 magnuse yup - nice! 12:50 jcamins magnuse: did you see chris_n's quote of the day feature? 12:50 cait <3 12:50 * magnuse sends chocolate 12:47 * jcamins sends chocolate. 12:45 cait can someone send me chocolate please? 12:45 * cait is so tired of translations and people talking about yummy food! 12:44 cait perhaps try the mailing list? 12:44 cait I think not a lot of libraries are using the feature 12:41 Guest1285 thought there's some howto, but can't find any 12:40 leander rehi 12:40 Guest1285 ok, I'll check the code 12:40 Guest1285 as far as I can see 12:40 Guest1285 and when it's called it should have arguments 12:40 Guest1285 the driver seems a library for me 12:40 jcamins I don't know anything about the SMS features, sorry. 12:40 Guest1285 this is what seems strange 12:40 cait perhaps you have to cofingure that in the driver itself? 12:40 Guest1285 yes 12:40 cait in koha there is only the pref for the driver 12:39 Guest1285 but I think I should set up username, password and other details from the sms provider 12:39 cait i have never used that feature 12:39 cait sorry, I am not sure 12:39 Guest1285 I know I can set up the driver 12:39 Guest1285 i'm wondering if someone could give me some hints how to set up sms sending in koha 12:38 cait hi mick 12:38 wahanui hola, mick 12:38 mick hi 12:38 jcamins cait: yup. 12:37 cait jcamins: you have a dishwasher in the new kitchen, right? 12:33 cait knew 12:33 cait I knw 12:33 cait hah 12:33 jcamins_away mveron: this is me... cooking things in the dishwasher! 12:33 mveron Translating ? Cooking? 12:32 jcamins_away mveron: this is fascinating. 12:28 magnuse yay 12:23 mveron 506 :-) 12:21 cait so the text it probably the same, with this little difference 12:21 cait but only almost 12:21 cait both modules are almost the same 12:21 mveron Same with 1992 12:21 cait yeah 12:21 mveron card creator. 12:20 mveron See comment, it talks about Etiketten,is related to patron 12:20 cait benutzerausweisdruck? 12:20 cait i think I see it 12:20 mveron http://translate.koha-community.org/de/38/de-DE-i-staff-t-prog-v-3006000.po/translate/?unit=3080955 12:19 cait what kind of error? 12:19 cait ah 12:19 mveron cait: There was a lengthy entry that I marked as 'fragwürdig' because it has an error in it. Will look it up. 12:14 cait ? 12:14 cait the counter went up again` 12:14 cait whathappened now 12:14 cait oh 12:10 cait ein bisschen 12:07 magnuse no you're not :-) 12:07 cait y 12:07 * cait is sorr 12:07 magnuse yay 12:07 * cait sends cookies 12:07 magnuse ein bischen 12:04 * cait is mean 12:04 cait jealous? ;) 12:04 cait yep 12:02 magnuse that's all that is left to do n the german translation of 3.8? 12:00 cait 542 words 11:58 magnuse ja, das ist toll! 11:57 cait with visitors from Leipzig and German speaking Norwegians 11:56 cait seems we have a German Koha IRC day today 11:56 cait heh 11:54 magnuse das ist schade 11:53 mveron the lamb 11:53 mveron e... 11:53 mveron Will be gon... 11:52 mveron Ja, das ist dann schon weg :-) 11:52 cait bit late for the lamb 11:52 cait hm vielleicht bisschen spät für das lamm :) 11:52 mveron cait: Konstanz 14:03, Basel SBB 16:27, via Zürich :-) 11:50 * cait tries to figure out how long it would take her to go to basel... 11:48 mveron In te meantime I can translate :-) 11:47 magnuse nice 11:47 mveron I have now a closed pot with lamb and lemon in it, 70 degree programma, 80 minutes 11:47 magnuse how long does it take? 11:46 mveron Works great, just everything you would do with low temperature 11:46 magnuse how long does it have to stay in the washer? 11:46 magnuse i think i have heard about that before, actually 11:46 magnuse so i saw 11:46 cait mveron was telling me about cooking with a dishwasher :) 11:44 magnus_afk hiya! 11:44 cait hi magnus_afk 11:41 cait but I bet jcamins_away would love this 11:40 cait I don't have a dishwasher... 11:40 mveron http://vimeo.com/34324917 11:38 mveron cait: See Lisa Casali, Cucinare in Lavastoviglie 11:37 cait sounds very yummy 11:37 mveron cait: Oh I misspelled cat :-) 11:36 mveron cat: Aspargus and lamb. I cook the lamb in the dishwasher (really). 11:35 cait :) 11:35 cait what's for lunch? ) 11:31 mveron cait:Back, had to cook. Oh - 648 Wörter benötigen Aufmerksamkeit :-) 10:56 cait 1289 words need attention 08:47 cait yep :) 08:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3007 normal, P3, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , four UNIMARC value_builder templates to translate to English 08:47 mveron cait: Bug 3007 08:45 cait I tried my best - I am sure it can be improved :) 08:45 cait there is a bug about that too somewhere 08:44 cait some of the unimarc plugins for cataloguing are not properly translated 08:44 cait yeah 08:43 mveron cait: Found some french text in the original, see http://translate.koha-community.org/de/38/de-DE-i-staff-t-prog-v-3006000.po/translate/?unit=3086306 08:42 mveron :-) 08:42 cait not sure I can agree to that 08:42 cait hmmm 08:40 mveron mbalmer: Let's agre to suburbs of basel, as are Allschwil, Zürich and Konstanz as well :-) 08:39 mbalmer mveron, actually I am not in Basel, but canton Aargau, I just happen to have one of my many offices in Basel ;P 08:30 leander I'll do so now 08:29 wahanui it has been said that packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian 08:29 cait packages? 08:29 cait von download.koha-community.org oder noch besser einfach die packages verwenden 08:29 cait 3.6.4 08:29 leander which version should I go with then? 08:29 cait :) 08:29 leander hm 08:28 leander <- UBL 08:28 leander achne 08:28 cait ja 08:28 leander cait, BSZ? 08:28 mveron leander: And mveron in Basel (and mbalmer as well) 08:28 leander hey :) 08:27 cait I am in Konstanz ;) 08:27 cait :) 08:27 wahanui OK, cait. 08:27 cait wahanui: download Koha is http://download.koha-community.org 08:27 leander in leipzig/germany 08:27 cait download Koha? 08:27 cait where are you located leander? 08:27 leander oh ok 08:26 leander i just want to have a quick look on it 08:26 cait and only supported by them 08:26 cait 4.8 is a fork of the company ptfs/liblime 08:26 cait if you want to get support from the community 08:26 wahanui no is, like, failing unit tests 08:26 leander no? 08:26 cait don't install 4.8 08:26 cait first 08:26 cait ok 08:26 cait oh 08:26 leander 4.8something 08:26 leander i had a lot of fun with cpanm and so on 08:26 cait and which version are you trying to install? 08:26 cait ok, what have you been doing and where are you stuck :) 08:26 leander i downloaded the tar.gz 08:25 leander mhm, no 08:25 wahanui packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian 08:25 cait packages? 08:25 cait did you use the packages? 08:25 leander thats not as easy as I thought 08:25 leander im trying to install koha on ubuntu 08:24 leander :) 08:24 mveron hi leander 08:24 leander hi 08:24 cait hi leander 08:22 cait and i think all of those belong to the help files 08:22 cait we are almost done 08:18 mveron cait: OK, 2781 Wörter benötigen Aufmerksamkeit 08:17 cait mveron: done :) 08:14 cait i also checked opac and pref files - should throw no errors now when you install 08:14 mveron cait: Time for another coffee.. 08:14 cait takes a bit, staff file is big 08:13 cait it's uploading now :) 08:12 mveron Just let me know when you are ready with upload 08:12 cait test running it one more time before uploading :) 08:12 cait ok, give me a second 08:11 mveron Cait: Just wanted to start with translations, but no big things done yet. 08:11 cait mveron: if you wait a second, I will upload the corrected file 08:11 mbalmer <- fiddling with debian packaging 08:10 cait mveron: are you working on translations? I have downloaded the file to fix some poblems right now - don't want to undo any of your changes 08:10 mveron cait: Word count rapidly goes down! 08:10 cait hi mveron and mbalmer 08:06 mbalmer hallo marc! 08:06 mveron hi mbalmer :-) 08:06 mveron hi cait :-) 08:06 mveron hi #koha 07:32 mbalmer m'ning 07:21 cait hi #koha 01:26 jcamins :) 01:26 * chris_n hits the hay :-) 01:26 chris_n it has all my work up to a few moments ago 01:26 chris_n yup 01:25 jcamins I will. Still branch bug_7977_csv? 01:25 chris_n just truncate your quotes table often :-) 01:25 chris_n if you can take it for a spin and let me know what your thoughts are I'd be grateful 01:25 * jcamins too. 01:25 jcamins chris_n: woohoo! 01:24 chris_n I'll work on it again monday, but I think this has a lot of potential 01:24 chris_n jcamins: I think what's left with the quotes uploader is mainly cosmetic; I added some messaging to pass basic success/failure reponses back from the server