Time  Nick         Message
22:22 chris_n      winter in its death spiral
22:22 huginn`      chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 14.3°C (6:18 PM EDT on April 11, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 12%. Dew Point: -15.0°C. Pressure: 30.03 in 1017 hPa (Falling).  Frost advisory in effect from 4 am to 9 am EDT Thursday... 
22:22 chris_n      @wunder 28334
22:21 jcamins_away So what I wanted to point out is that if you click where it says "NYU Bobst Main Collection (E171 .A48)" NYU is using items for individual issues.
22:20 ibeardslee   yup
22:19 SJeffery     That works
22:19 rangi        it only costs you about 400k too
22:19 jcamins_away That's the most everything-unfriendly system I have ever seen.
22:19 jcamins_away Maybe that one?
22:19 jcamins_away https://library.nyu.edu/persistent/lcn/dedupmrg49021085?institution=NYU&persistent
22:19 jcamins_away Let me try again.
22:19 jcamins_away So, no.
22:19 jcamins_away Hm.
22:18 jcamins_away Yikes.
22:17 SJeffery     That might be the most search engine unfriendly URL I have ever seen!
22:17 ibeardslee   same here
22:17 SJeffery     I get a blank page
22:16 jcamins_away Does this link work at all: http://bobcat.library.nyu.edu/primo_library/libweb/action/display.do?ct=display&doc=dedupmrg49021085&indx=3&dscnt=1&vl(378633853UI1)=all_items&scp.scps=scope%3A(NS)%2Cscope%3A(CU)%2Cscope%3A(%22BHS%22)%2Cscope%3A(NYU)%2Cscope%3A(%22NYSID%22)%2Cscope%3A(%22NYHS%22)%2Cscope%3A(GEN)%2Cscope%3A(%22NYUAD%22)&frbg=&tab=all&dstmp=1334182536392&srt=rank&ct=search&mode=Basic&dum=true&vl(212921975UI0)=any&indx=1&vl(1UIStartWith0)=conta
22:14 SJeffery     It indicates which library it is in but not the shelving location.
22:12 SJeffery     That whole interface seems counterintuitive. As soon as a patron lands on that page they are asking "where is this magazine at and what issues do you own" None of that information is on the landing page. You can see it to some extent on the subscriptions page, but it is not exactly easy to read.
22:07 jcamins_away SJeffery: lol
22:06 SJeffery     I think some patrons would call it "large enough that I can actually see it!"
22:06 bag          yup
22:05 jcamins_away BTW, is the text on that catalog bizarrely large?
22:05 jcamins_away That's because it isn't shelved yet. In most libraries that do annual cumulations only, there will be a section called "Periodicals" with signage explaining how to find things.
22:04 jcamins_away Right, notice how there is no information about that?
22:04 SJeffery     Is that what you were thinking of?
22:04 SJeffery     http://opac.kohademo.esilibrary.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=80865
22:02 SJeffery     Darnit
22:02 jcamins_away The data in that database is more public library-oriented.
22:01 jcamins_away I don't think you'll find any examples in ByWater's demo.
22:01 SJeffery     Sortof. I am trying to find some examples in the demo
22:01 jcamins_away Have you run screaming away in horror?
22:00 jcamins_away Does that make sense?
21:59 jcamins_away When you bind them at the end of the year, you create an item record because they're actually getting shelved at that point.
21:59 jcamins_away If you do annual cumulations, those two issues aren't going to be shelved yet.
21:58 jcamins_away If we shelve that in Z1004 .C26, we'll have two items now: Z1004 .C26 vol. 1, no. 1 and Z1004 .C26 vol. 1, no. 2.
21:57 jcamins_away The record says we have vol. 1, no. 1-
21:57 jcamins_away For example, we just got in vol. 1, no. 2 of Boring journal.
21:57 jcamins_away But even if you catalog a serial, the items are treated on an item level.
21:56 SJeffery     Yup.
21:56 jcamins_away For the parent journal you should.
21:56 jcamins_away Not use subscriptions for the analytics themselves.
21:56 rangi        bbiab
21:56 SJeffery     Not use subscriptions for the analytics themselves or for the parent journal?
21:55 jcamins_away SJeffery: you probably shouldn't be using subscriptions on analytic records.
21:55 rangi        heh
21:55 wizzyrea     you know I can't read your ghost items~
21:54 rangi        "Enable ghost items"
21:54 huginn`      wizzyrea: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011)
21:54 wizzyrea     @quote get 123
21:54 SJeffery     "Enable SJeffery's crazy library mode"
21:54 SJeffery     I am all for more sysprefs:)
21:54 rangi        you can send a patch for that behaviour, but you will need to wrap it in a syspref so ppl can turn it on if they have intangible items like your library :)
21:53 rangi        whether it circulates or not is another thing entirely
21:52 SJeffery     It should probably default to the subscriptions tab if there are no items loaded because the subscription then becomes the holdings information.
21:52 rangi        then you have an item
21:52 rangi        can you hold it in your hand?
21:52 SJeffery     Well you really do not have an item if you are not cataloging at the item level.
21:51 rangi        weird that you have item record if you have an item? :)
21:51 SJeffery     Ah, ok. Weird.
21:50 rangi        ive only seen no items used for electronic subscriptions
21:50 rangi        i think the latter
21:49 SJeffery     You would import a record and then add the subscription. The subscription would essentially be the item record? Or is there an assumption that you would create a generic item record to go with it (without a barcode)?
21:48 rangi        if an item doesnt exist, how can you shelve it?
21:48 SJeffery     What about when an item record is not created when an issue is received?
21:47 rangi        complete with call number
21:47 rangi        if its shelved it will be on the holdings tab
21:46 SJeffery     I am curious...is there a reason for hiding all the location information for serials subscriptions from the end-user interface? I can't for the life of me see how a user would know the call number a journal is shelved at.
20:48 sekjal       cheers, #koha!
20:41 sekjal       thanks, gmcharlt!
20:33 huginn`      wizzyrea: The current temperature in Near Free State High, Lawrence, Kansas is 14.5°C (3:32 PM CDT on April 11, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 17%. Dew Point: -10.0°C. Pressure: 30.29 in 1026 hPa (Falling).
20:33 wizzyrea     @wunder 66049
20:33 cait         brr.
20:33 cait         you win
20:32 huginn`      rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 13.0°C (8:00 AM NZST on April 12, 2012). Conditions: Rain Showers. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady).
20:32 rangi        @wunder nzwn
20:30 huginn`      cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 4.4°C (10:29 PM CEST on April 11, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Steady).
20:30 cait         @wunder Konstanz
20:24 gmcharlt     note that there is a follow-up patch for the follow-up
20:24 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7016 major, P1 - high, ---, koha.sekjal, Signed Off , CanBookBeReserved uses GetItemsInfo unnecessarily
20:24 gmcharlt     ok, done - bug 7016 should now be in a better state
20:16 * jcamins    calls it a day early.
20:05 huginn`      libsysguy: Karma for "bug_fixing" has been increased 2 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 2.
20:05 libsysguy    @karma bug_fixing
20:05 cait         bug_fixing++ too
20:04 cait         gmcharlt++
20:00 * gmcharlt   grabs it, then
19:59 sekjal       gmcharlt:  yes, i think this is still a bug, and needs signoff.  I've updated the status accordingly
19:59 wizzyrea     *nod* broken things are bad
19:58 gmcharlt     as it stands, I think it is just about a blocker for 3.8 and a desirable backport to 3.6.x
19:57 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7016 major, P1 - high, ---, koha.sekjal, Pushed to Master , CanBookBeReserved uses GetItemsInfo unnecessarily
19:57 jcamins      Bug 7016
19:57 gmcharlt     at least, for your follow-up?
19:57 gmcharlt     sekjal: am I interpreting things correctly that 7016 really ought to be put back ton needs-signoff?
19:56 * cait       wishes she had been there too :)
19:55 wizzyrea     right, I had dinner with nahuel, paul_p, and oleonard
19:52 rangi        but was a small team back then
19:51 rangi        06 maybe then
19:51 rangi        nahuel and paul
19:51 rangi        ah nope
19:50 * wizzyrea   honestly doesn't remember
19:50 wizzyrea     well, was hdl at kohacon9?
19:49 rangi        maybe kohacon09
19:49 rangi        hmm not sure its ever happened
19:47 * sekjal     isn't sure when next the entire release team will be in any given place together...
19:42 thd          :)
19:42 jcamins      thd: I thought about that, but it sounds vaguely rude.
19:42 thd          s/photoshopping/gimping/
19:41 jcamins      Eh, if you're photoshopping one person in, might as well photoshop in two. ;)
19:41 rangi        ahh and mtj too
19:41 thd          snap my suggestion too :)
19:41 jcamins      You could photoshop me in.
19:40 rangi        cya mveron
19:40 mveron       bye #koha
19:40 rangi        yes, a release team photo
19:40 rangi        i meant at kohacon
19:40 chris_n      or have a better suggestion for using JSON and TT?
19:40 thd          rangi: You had a plan to which jcamins would be indispensable?
19:40 cait         rangi: he was here earlier
19:39 chris_n      anybody messed with Template::Plugin::JSON
19:39 rangi        that ruins my plan
19:39 rangi        hmm no jcamins
19:39 thd          s/same/about the same/
19:39 jcamins      Oh, that is unfortunate.
19:38 thd          It is very unfortunate that BookExpo America, the annual US publishers and booksellers conference, starts at the same time as KohaCon this year.
19:37 rangi        hopefully be presenting at both hackfest and conference
19:37 * mveron     Thinks the best bet is to set up a fresh server and re-install koha...
19:37 * mveron     InnoDB: Your database may be corrupt or you may have copied the InnoDB
19:37 rangi        all booked
19:37 rangi        eythian and I are going
19:36 rangi        yup
19:36 thd          rangi: Are you expecting to attend?
19:33 * chris_n    is pondering pondering
19:33 jcamins      (this is related to the topic of linking in other cool stuff)
19:31 * jcamins    has been pondering geolocating authorities.
19:30 chris_n      jcamins: always
19:30 chris_n      at least it was not your supersecret password
19:30 jcamins      chris_n: and share the code, I hope? :)
19:30 mveron       Mistked with the window...
19:30 chris_n      hehe
19:30 mveron       logout
19:30 chris_n      once I finish the upgrade, we're going to publish our opac on the inet
19:28 chris_n      nicely
19:28 chris_n      but it does "pop out" now
19:28 chris_n      its a bit of a slow list
19:28 * chris_n    has some questions into the bookreader list
19:28 chris_n      not as tightly as I want
19:28 jcamins      I know, but you've got quite a lot of customizations yourself.
19:28 chris_n      mine is small ;-)
19:27 jcamins      Did you get the archive.org reader integrated?
19:27 chris_n      :-)
19:27 * chris_n    was thinking of BibLibre
19:27 * jcamins    feels sorry for chris_n. ;)
19:27 * chris_n    feels sorry for those who have to do migrations on massively customized systems
19:24 * chris_n    will add the appropriate disclaimer
19:23 chris_n      that probably explains it
19:23 chris_n      ahh
19:23 chris_n      actually the datatables stuff is all post
19:23 jcamins      chris_n: BibLibre still uses H:T:P on their non-master installs.
19:23 sekjal       pre-3.4 content?
19:23 chris_n      I wonder why that page suggests its use
19:23 sekjal       so, if we're still using it, we shouldn't be
19:22 sekjal       chris_n:  it's been dropped as a dependency in Koha
19:22 thd          rangi: I actually have an event conflict for at least the conference.  The hackfest is a possibility with recovering some expected backpay.
19:22 jcamins      And the codebase cleansed. With fire.
19:22 * chris_n    goes for the sacred knife
19:22 chris_n      my thinking exactly
19:22 jcamins      chris_n: if we do, that usage should be ritually sacrificed.
19:22 * chris_n    sees references to it in http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/DataTables_HowTo
19:21 chris_n      do we still use HTML::Template?
19:18 thd          slef: anything can be metaphysical in Edinburgh.
19:17 rangi        thd: are you coming?
19:16 slef         thd: BUT CAN IT BE METAPHYSICAL?
19:16 slef         bbl
19:16 thd          mle_: Hallway can of course be metaphorical.
19:16 slef         ok I must go find food
19:16 cait         not going ot repeat that
19:16 cait         in 2010
19:15 cait         I would like that - I missed the first evening because of a sudden fever
19:15 * slef       just rips off kohacon10 and transplants it
19:15 slef         mle_: do you think we can persuade the library bar to do some offer to delegates for day 1 evening?  Do you have time?  ;-)
19:14 slef         oh
19:14 rangi        :)
19:14 mle_         not much of a hallway, but sevearl cafes in building ; )
19:08 huginn`      Log:            http://meetings.koha-community.org/2012/koha.2012-04-11-18.00.log.html
19:08 huginn`      Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2012/koha.2012-04-11-18.00.txt
19:08 huginn`      Minutes:        http://meetings.koha-community.org/2012/koha.2012-04-11-18.00.html
19:08 huginn`      Meeting ended Wed Apr 11 19:08:43 2012 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
19:08 slef         #endmeeting
19:08 slef         (as previously stated)
19:08 slef         #info next meeting Wednesday 18 April 18:00 UTC
19:08 slef         thd: there is at least 1 on site, others across the square
19:08 slef         #topic next meeting
19:08 thd          How distant is any lunch venue if it is not on site?
19:07 slef         ok, well, thank you all for taking part
19:06 slef         #action at least 60 for lunch, and morning and afternoon tea to enable hallway track
19:06 thd          The hallway track is often the most important.
19:06 rangi        depends on how many speakers we get :)
19:06 cait         hallway_track++ :)
19:06 talljoy      tea++
19:06 rangi        at least 60
19:06 thd          rangi++
19:06 jwagner      +1
19:06 cait         yes
19:06 kyleh        indeed
19:06 slef         rangi: where decent is what? 60 or 90?
19:06 talljoy      yes
19:05 jcamins      +1
19:05 rangi        and morning and afternoon tea, is good, so hallway track can go full effect
19:05 slef         cait thd mle_ jcamins jwagner kyleh talljoy bag ok to close the meeting?
19:05 rangi        slef: having a decent break for lunch
19:05 wahanui      thd: sorry...
19:05 thd          wahanui looks back at slef.
19:04 * slef       looks at wahanui
19:04 rangi        hmmm
19:04 wahanui      "any old iron, any old iron, any any any old iron" was a popular 1980s advertising slogan.
19:04 slef         any old iron?
19:04 slef         any more for any more?
19:04 slef         hi rangi... any kohacon points before I end the meeting?
19:04 cait         morning rangi
19:03 * rangi      wanders in
19:03 thd          Having a tested microphone specifically for recording questions from those attending is obviously important for the question and answer period.
19:03 cait         but we are already close to the date
19:02 cait         some bigger conferences here have started to keep room for last minutes topics
19:02 slef         Any other topics that we should cover today? Any topics we should cover next week?
19:02 slef         Any more points or questions?
19:02 slef         ok, well, we'll see how time goes
19:01 thd          slef: Remaining flexible is very useful even in the last moments.
19:00 thd          slef: I am always for earliest possible planning with the latest possible changing.
18:59 slef         thd: do you have a view on starting to schedule before the deadline?
18:59 slef         #action remember to include a sufficient question and answer period for presentations
18:59 slef         thd: good point.
18:58 cait         slef: yep
18:58 slef         cait: I like longer talks in the morning.  And shorter or more interactive things in the afternoon.
18:57 slef         #action announce some accepted papers, to drive up registrations and other papers
18:57 thd          Please remember to include a sufficient question and answer period for presentations.
18:57 slef         oh I remember!
18:56 mle_         ++
18:56 slef         give plenty of time for discussions around the edges of the conference
18:56 slef         I think we're flexible on the end times but were aiming on 4.30?
18:56 mle_         no
18:55 slef         mle_: can you remember any other times? I've not got them to hand right now.
18:55 cait         and shorter ones afternoon?
18:55 slef         The opening will be 10am on day 1.
18:55 cait         i think perhaps longer talks in the morning
18:54 slef         I think leave a lot unscheduled until the deadline, but maybe we could start to schedule the papers the reviewers thought were high priorities?
18:54 cait         we will have to rearrange I think...
18:53 cait         I think perhaps wait for th deadline?
18:53 cait         hm
18:53 mle_         not yet
18:53 cait         do we have a keynote speaker or something for the first day?
18:53 slef         I'm inclined to start trying to build a programme about this time next week, after posting the accepted papers somewhere but before the final deadline.
18:53 cait         what is the time frame? for each day of the conference?
18:52 slef         yes, I think we've a range 20-50 minutes for the conference
18:51 cait         I think the proposed talks are quite different in length?
18:51 slef         #topic Scheduling
18:51 mle_         please
18:51 slef         ok, shall we move on to a quick contemplation of scheduling?
18:51 mle_         yes
18:51 cait         so friday... and then hackfest?
18:51 cait         ok
18:49 mle_         thd yup
18:49 thd          mle_: You mean booking a vessel?
18:48 thd          mle_: The sea needs significant advanced planning?
18:48 slef         #action ask later about whiskey, arthur's seat, castle, kilts and a meal
18:48 mle_         thd: the sea
18:48 thd          What would the venue be for fishing?  [Not that I am keen on fishing.]
18:48 slef         and remove fishing from the later list. I'm going nuts.
18:47 mle_         : )
18:47 slef         and a meal?
18:47 slef         later we'll ask about fishing, whiskey, arthur's seat, castle, kilts
18:47 slef         ok, so we've early sign-up for fishing
18:47 jcamins      At least, that used to be possible.
18:46 jcamins      mle_: I think you can get a group rate as little as a couple of days in advance.
18:45 mle_         unless we want group discount/bookign for castle
18:45 mle_         i dont think so
18:44 mle_         jwagner: https://debconf7.debconf.org/wiki/Accommodation
18:44 slef         mle_: will we need to decide early on any of the other possible Friday outings?
18:44 cait         not doing the hard part :)
18:43 slef         thanks again cait!
18:43 slef         #action cait to post fish to koha-community.org
18:43 slef         mle_: what would it be catching?
18:43 mle_         #action mle to write some text
18:43 slef         mle_: where would it be?
18:42 mle_         none
18:42 cait         if you give me a text I can try to figure out the post part
18:42 slef         mle_: how much idea of fishing is expected?
18:42 cait         I have no idea of fishing
18:42 mle_         end of April
18:42 slef         would anyone put a post on koha-community.org about this, please?
18:41 slef         how soon?
18:41 mle_         slef 10
18:41 slef         #action mle_ to tell us how many are needed how soon for the fishing to happen
18:41 slef         jwagner: £52.80 Off-Peak Return http://traintimes.org.uk/edb/oxn/08:00/next+Friday/23:59a
18:40 mle_         good question.  i am aware of three
18:39 thd          What libraries in the area are currently using Koha or about to adopt it?
18:39 * mle_       checks
18:39 mle_         at leat 10
18:38 mle_         the fishing does soudn good, a friend has offered to charter a boat for us
18:38 slef         mle_: how many are needed how soon for the fishing to happen?
18:38 slef         post on the website I think
18:38 slef         cait: good idea.
18:38 cait         on the website or wiki with a deadline?
18:38 cait         slef: perhaps have a post for the fishing ?
18:38 mle_         sorry, that is true
18:38 * jwagner    wants a full summer to play with the Swallows and the Amazons, but that's probably not feasible during the conference
18:37 slef         and how much you'd spend to get there quick
18:37 slef         depends how long you want in the lake district
18:37 * jwagner    was afraid of that.
18:37 mle_         Lake District too far in a day
18:37 slef         cait: I think mle_ would like an idea about fishing in particular soon, as that sort of stuff gets booked up in summer.
18:36 slef         fishing, whiskey, arthur's seat, castle, kilts, lakes
18:36 cait         so people can register,... and sign up for friday fun later on
18:35 cait         slef: perhaps have a different form? guess the deadlines will be different for the friday activities
18:35 mle_         I could wear my Debian kilt
18:35 talljoy      heh
18:35 cait         guess I have the hat again
18:34 mle_         a koha kilt?
18:34 cait         :)
18:34 slef         jwagner: 2-3h from memory... but my memory is poor
18:34 talljoy      :-D
18:34 cait         talljoy: yes, I vote for dressing up the koha men in kilts
18:34 jwagner      Is the Lake District within feasible reach?
18:34 slef         #action add closest facilities / level and near-level access details to website
18:34 jcamins      mle_: if exams are over by then, you should also point out the dorms.
18:34 talljoy      kilts.
18:34 * cait       will go with the crowd
18:34 mle_         castle
18:34 slef         fishing, whiskey, arthur's seat... what else?
18:34 jwagner      incidentally...
18:33 jwagner      #info Jane Wagner, LibLime/PTFS
18:33 slef         we should add some tickboxes for different Friday things to the registration form
18:33 jwagner      jcamins, thanks.
18:33 * mle_       takes notes even
18:33 * mle_       takes ntoes
18:33 jcamins      jwagner: http://maps.google.com/maps?q=hotels+near+eh8+9aj&hl=en&gl=us&hq=hotels&hnear=EH8+9AJ,+United+Kingdom&t=m&z=16
18:33 * talljoy    is interested in whiskey
18:32 slef         me, I think I'll go for a walk up Arthur's Seat at some point in the day and anyone's welcome to come
18:32 mle_         so i put a call out to see if folk wanted to go fishing, but have not heard back
18:32 jcamins      EH8 9AJ?
18:32 mle_         ok
18:32 jwagner      not necessary this minute, but if it could make it onto the web page, that would help
18:32 mle_         hotel du vin is closest
18:32 slef         while mle_ asks questions about what to do on the Friday
18:32 slef         actually let me go get that
18:32 mle_         there are some close hotels
18:31 slef         mle_: or teviot's postcode for a location search
18:31 slef         mle_: any idea what's absolute closest?
18:30 jwagner      Thanks much. At some point, can you maybe identify the closest facilities, for people with disabilities who can't walk very far?
18:30 slef         maybe I should post them on another page too?  Or are there better lists?
18:30 slef         on the visa-info page
18:30 slef         #link http://www.yell.com/ucs/UcsSearchAction.do?keywords=hotels&location=edinburgh
18:29 slef         #link http://www.scoot.co.uk/find/hotels-in-edinburgh
18:29 slef         #link http://www.laterooms.com/
18:29 slef         #link http://wikitravel.org/en/Edinburgh#Sleep
18:29 slef         mle_: jwagner: I included
18:29 mle_         jwagner not as such.
18:29 * jcamins    won't be there, but would suggest Saint Andrews as a nice daytrip.
18:28 slef         #info There's a day between the conference and the hackfest. I think it's Friday. What would you like to do?
18:28 jwagner      mle, is there a list of hotels near the venue somewhere?
18:28 mle_         but sofa's need to be organised early
18:28 mle_         i want to remind folk to ask if they want me to check anything out here, need any info etc.  I want to highlight the possibliity of organising a few sofa's with some of our friends if folk are too skint to get a hostel.
18:28 slef         #topic The Friday Off - Possible Excursions
18:27 thd          ahhh... :)
18:27 jcamins      thd: to obtain institutional support, and/or justify the expenses as tax write-offs.
18:27 slef         thd: to persuade sponsors to pay for them, it seems.
18:26 thd          Is there any reason which people from countries which do not require a Visa for the UK would ever need an invitation letter?
18:26 cait         slef: watching you and the hat :)
18:25 wahanui      slef: i'm not following you...
18:25 slef         wahanui: me neither. No-one's talking to me. I wonder how I offended them.
18:25 wahanui      i don't know, slef
18:25 slef         wahanui: yes?
18:24 slef         ok, are we all done with questions?
18:23 slef         mle_: ok, let's hope.
18:22 slef         thd: that's temporary... needs full details onto the wiki or similar I think.
18:22 slef         thd: http://paste.koha-community.org/341
18:22 slef         cait: good idea.
18:22 thd          slef: Where is the link to the papers list which you just added?
18:21 mle_         maybe, but I would hope not
18:21 cait         slef: about the cfp - perhaps we should send a reminder about the deadline next week?
18:21 mle_         hmm
18:21 slef         I suspect
18:21 slef         there may be some troubleshooting on day 1
18:20 mle_         but bascially i am confident we will have some provisions
18:20 mle_         thd: I will visit them next month and ask for permission to use my staff account too.
18:20 * slef       is ex-student-union-IT as well as ex-university-IT
18:20 cait         slef: you can keep it a bit longer :)
18:20 slef         mle_: oh well, they're worse, just look at the idiots they've employed in the past.
18:19 mle_         slef: no, we are using student union IT
18:19 * slef       gives cait the jester hat back
18:19 mle_         thd they have new staff coming. (the staff i spoke to were microsoft monkeys ahem ahem)
18:19 slef         thd: probably the day after kohacon is the safest!
18:19 slef         thd: ahhhh, university IT ;)
18:18 thd          mle_: How would you know when to believe their assertion?
18:18 slef         any other questions?
18:18 slef         mle_: can you file some stuff on reference 3155 for me?
18:18 mle_         s/say/day/
18:18 mle_         cait: i do not believe them, so will keep hassling them.  I may be able to use my staff internet access, which is very good.  There is also the option to buy delegates access at £1 per say per user.
18:18 slef         in that pasted list, DONE means the author has been told it's been accepted, WAITING means it's with a reviewer and TODO means I need to do something with it :)
18:17 mle_         (sorry that my phoen typing is not up to scratch)
18:17 cait         mle_: nice!
18:16 cait         no, don't be sorry :) child is more important
18:16 mle_         so the internet is promised. promised to be good enough to stream.
18:16 slef
18:16 slef         #action slef to post more complete list of paper details ready for scheduling... somewhere
18:16 mle_         cait. sorry about that. had to put child to sleep. now back at workstation.
18:16 thd          mle: You have identified the main problem with miniaturising keyboards without miniaturising their users.
18:15 pastebot     "slef" at 92.24.4.157 pasted "list of papers and statuses as of right now" (11 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/341
18:15 cait         it's ok, I will read as: internet will work :)
18:15 thd          ;)
18:14 mle_         sorry m on phonkeyboarde
18:14 cait         or explain?
18:13 cait         mle: sorry, can you rephrase?
18:13 mle_         internet id promiised. staff Re changing.
18:13 slef         thd: not online yet. 1mo and I'll paste it here
18:12 thd          Is there a list of papers which have been submitted?
18:12 slef         mle_: what's the status with internet? rtcat isn't telling me?
18:12 slef         I think those are mostly to prove to sponsoring institutions, rather than visas, at least at this point in time. I don't know if we will get more asked for visas.
18:11 cait         ok :)
18:11 cait         ah
18:11 slef         invitation letters?  Only 4 so far I think
18:11 cait         only to get an idea?
18:11 cait         slef: can you tell how many?
18:10 slef         Last thing from me is that we've sent all invitation letters we've been asked for.
18:10 mle_         :)
18:10 jcamins      Edinburgh is an awesome city, and those of us who can't go are very jealous of those of you who can!
18:10 mle_         nppe
18:10 slef         mle_: anything to report about Edinburgh and the venue?
18:10 mle_         ++
18:09 slef         So far I know about 5 sponsorships in progress, 2 of which are confirmed. I intend to announce them as soon as those 5 are confirmed, to reward them for sponsoring early.
18:09 slef         Sponsorships opened on purpose last weekend.
18:08 slef         Not everyone knows what koha is yet, sadly.
18:08 slef         #link http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/KohaCon12_Announcements has some of announcements, but please include the Common Text outside the koha* email lists.
18:07 slef         We were in the high 20s this morning, but we still need to announce it more widely.
18:07 slef         Registrations opened by accident last week.
18:07 slef         We need to do some scheduling - more of that in a mo.
18:06 slef         #info If anyone else could review papers, please let me know.
18:06 mle_         ++
18:06 slef         Thanks to all the reviewers to date
18:05 kyleh        #info Kyle Hall, ByWater Solutions
18:05 slef         I think there's about a dozen papers in, nearly all reviewed, most of which have been accepted by the reviewers, a couple with minor questions
18:05 thd          #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City
18:05 cait         so status update?
18:05 mle_         :)
18:05 cait         it suits me :)
18:05 slef         mmmm cait has stolen my jester hat!
18:04 talljoy      lol
18:04 talljoy      err see line above.  :-)
18:04 cait         sorry, couldn't resist :)
18:04 cait         which website?
18:04 slef         #link http://koha-community.org/kohacon12/
18:04 slef         I hope you've all seen the website
18:04 mle_         #info mle, Matthew Edmondson, software.coop even
18:03 slef         #topic Roadmap to kohacon12
18:03 slef         ok and mle will join us when he ... oh right, cool
18:03 mle_         #info mle, Marrhew Edmondson, software. coop
18:02 jcamins      #info Jared Camins-Esakov, C & P Bibliography Services
18:02 bag          #info Brendan Gallagher, ByWater Solutions
18:02 cait         #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ
18:01 slef         Welcome everyone, please introduce yourselves for the minutes by putting #info in front of your name
18:01 talljoy      #info Joy Nelson ByWater Solutions
18:01 slef         :)
18:01 mle_         y
18:01 slef         mle_: child almost asleep?
18:01 slef         #info MJ Ray, software.coop
18:01 mle_         status: chilf almost adleep
18:01 wahanui      #info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient
18:01 slef         #topic Introductions
18:00 huginn`      Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic.
18:00 huginn`      Meeting started Wed Apr 11 18:00:51 2012 UTC.  The chair is slef. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
18:00 wahanui      if there is a meeting then Brooke must want me
18:00 slef         #startmeeting
17:56 cait         slef: sounds good to me :)
17:56 talljoy      hi cait!
17:56 cait         hi talljoy :)
17:56 slef         mle_ even
17:55 slef         any topics for the agenda? If not, I'll report on status, invite mle to do the same and then discuss programme scheduling.
17:52 * talljoy    is here for kohacon meeting
17:48 cait         washing dishes... will be back in time
17:48 cait         yes
17:48 cait         oh
17:48 slef         15ish minutes to kohacon meeting... anyone here for it already?
17:37 cait         now I am all excited again :)
17:37 cait         ok :)
17:37 * cait       jumps around
17:37 gmcharlt     cait: indeed :)
17:36 cait         which normally means you need icu too... are you loooking at indexing of 880 right now? :)
17:36 cait         gmcharlt: that's a good term :)
17:35 jcamins      gmcharlt: true, 880s are actually for un-transliterated data.
17:35 cait         original graphic representation I think?
17:35 gmcharlt     more like the anti-transliteration, then
17:35 gmcharlt     indeed
17:35 cait         which is not a translation and not a transliteration I think
17:35 cait         for original script
17:35 cait         hm no
17:35 gmcharlt     well, to be pedantic, 880s are for transliterations, not translations, no?
17:16 * chris_n    hopes there's a backup :-)
17:16 chris_n      maybe things got mixed up during the move
17:15 cait         chris_n: yes, that doesn't sound good
17:13 chris_n      heh... what a coincidence :)
17:12 jcamins      chris_n: 880 is a field for translations. ;)
17:12 jcamins      Oh.
17:12 * chris_n    was referring to a post to koha-translate :-)
17:11 jcamins      chris_n: I think cait and I may be the only ones who use 880s, so it's really just "problems for Jared." ;)
17:11 chris_n      sounds like trouble in translation paradise
17:10 chris_n      opps
17:09 cait         ah
17:09 jcamins      They don't have classes.
17:09 jcamins      880s in the XSLT stylesheets.
17:09 jcamins      cait: you know what could use some styling attention?
17:06 cait         edveal: edveal perhaps try a newer version of Template - that seemed to fix it for us (if it's all formerly striped tables)
17:05 jcamins      Good luck.
17:02 edveal       Yep. I understand. Thank jcamins
17:02 jcamins      (that was the other reason I didn't fix it... I upgraded)
17:02 jcamins      edveal: I do know it's fixed at least in master, and I think also in 3.6.3.
17:01 edveal       Yeah I knew I could work around it but was looking for what might be causing it.
17:00 jcamins      edveal: I don't know if I ever solved the problem, because I decided to completely restyle my OPACs, and used a gradient to differentiate the results.
16:58 oleonard     Cutting out early today folks. See y'all later.
16:58 edveal       Thanks!
16:55 edveal       Didn't check all tables but will.
16:55 cait         edveal: is it all tables or only search results?
16:55 cait         we saw that here too
16:54 cait         old version of Template?
16:54 cait         jcamins_lunch: aaah
16:52 edveal       I think they are on 3.6.0
16:52 bag          jcamins: probably true
16:51 jcamins      I had that problem with 3.6.1.
16:51 jcamins      edveal: they're on an old version of 3.6?
16:50 edveal       Question about the searchresults page! It is my understanding that the default is that the hits have alternating highlighting for easier viewing. There is a site that I am working with that all hits are highlighted. I checked the jQuery and there is none and there is nothing in the CSS that should be over riding this. Any ideas out there?
16:41 gaetan_B     bye!
16:33 cait         mmh cherries
16:31 jcamins      gaetan_B++
16:31 jcamins      Oooooooohhh.
16:31 gaetan_B     and icons
16:31 gaetan_B     cherries
16:31 cait         it's one of these days i don't do updates to databases and things like that
16:31 jcamins      Ahhh.
16:30 gaetan_B     jcamins: icing on the top of the staff interface homepage ;)
16:30 jcamins      A Koha-themed cake?
16:30 cait         there is a reason I left earlier today
16:30 oleonard     And because it's suuuper secret
16:30 cait         i am really sorry
16:30 gaetan_B     cait: i only sent it to you and oleonard because we discussed it during the hackfest, ;)
16:30 jcamins      gaetan_B: mmm. Cake! What kind of cake?
16:30 cait         oups
16:30 cait         :(
16:30 cait         sorry, i thought it was to the list
16:30 jcamins      I did.
16:30 gaetan_B     jcamins: i'm baking a cake
16:30 cait         oooh
16:29 cait         jcamins: check koha mailing list :)
16:29 * jcamins    is also very nosy.
16:29 jcamins      What is this?
16:29 jcamins      Now I'm really curious!
16:29 cait         oh, I better be careful then :)
16:29 gaetan_B     *other
16:29 gaetan_B     but there are toerh options!
16:29 gaetan_B     cait: we stole the colors from koha-community.org
16:29 reiveune     bye
16:28 cait         gaetan_B: not sure about having orange/blue an green together
16:28 * jcamins    is curious what this message was about.
16:28 oleonard     Oh there it is
16:28 oleonard     I didnt see it
16:28 gaetan_B     cait: that's a good point
16:28 cait         gaetan_B: pushing down the modules a bit? they only show up if th efeature is activated and there is something to do, so perhaps would be more prominent than at the bottom
16:27 cait         gaetan_B: perhaps the pending things could go on top?
16:27 gaetan_B     cait: :-[
16:27 cait         icons!
16:26 cait         oleonard: did you see the mail from gaetan_B? :)
16:11 jcamins      Yeah!
16:10 cait         oleonard: in norway!
16:10 cait         oh
16:09 oleonard     Oh, speaking of everyone in Koha in a lifeboat together... We should have a KohaCon on a cruise ship!
16:08 oleonard     People protecting you from being made into dinner
16:08 cait         defenders?
16:08 cait         hehe
16:08 cait         you are not going to feed a lot of people
16:08 oleonard     Not with so many defenders :)
16:07 cait         but perhaps would be me
16:07 cait         that's a different question
16:07 cait         oleonard: hmmmm
16:03 oleonard     So I wouldn't be the first person in the lifeboat to get made into dinner?
15:59 cait         before it gets that bad - we still need you :)
15:58 cait         oleonard: next time - come here and ask!
15:57 oleonard     That was a close one.
15:57 * oleonard   , about to commit himself to a mental institution, discovers that AllowOnShelfHolds is turned off
15:51 jcamins      Yay!
15:51 mveron       slef, jcamins: Thanks a lot, I installed the packages, and I see the login screen again...
15:38 cait         what was the problem with fines earlier?
15:38 jcamins      It's already signed off, so it's just waiting on QA.
15:37 slef         I'm swamped this week
15:37 jcamins      Not so much!
15:37 slef         but I'll look at it later
15:37 slef         enhancement???
15:36 jcamins      Hm. That's kind of a big one.
15:36 slef         oh but jcamins spots a bug that is still in progress :(
15:35 mveron       slef: No, I did not
15:35 jcamins      You need to install whichever packages are mentioned in that patch.
15:35 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7820 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Signed Off , Missing packages from install_misc/debian.packages
15:35 jcamins      Bug 7820
15:35 slef         mveron: did you do "git pull master origin" today?
15:35 huginn`      jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7849 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Passed QA , Instant Fine Calculation at Checkin
15:35 huginn`      jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7820 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Signed Off , Missing packages from install_misc/debian.packages
15:35 huginn`      jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5549 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, chris, Signed Off , Hourly Loans
15:35 huginn`      jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7899 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tdavis, NEW , Remove C4::Dates from C4::Circulation
15:35 huginn`      jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4974 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , process_koc.pl fails to display date and time of return
15:35 jcamins      @query datetime
15:35 huginn`      jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1368 major, P2, ---, mjr, REOPENED , Use of FOREIGN_KEY_CHECKS = 0
15:35 huginn`      jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4847 minor, P5 - low, ---, robin, NEW , Python required for Debian package builds
15:35 huginn`      jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2131 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , Enhanced Content - Multiple Choices
15:35 huginn`      jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5599 normal, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, NEW , koha_perl_deps.pl and PerlDependencies.pm don't compare $VERSION numbers correctly
15:35 huginn`      jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2092 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Koha should support Unicode 6
15:35 jcamins      @query dependencies
15:35 jcamins      You need to install the missing dependencies.
15:34 jcamins      Okay, so, no, you are not trying to use build-git-snapshot.
15:33 mveron       This is the first time I get the error
15:33 mveron       I did git reset --hard origin/master several times
15:33 mveron       I followed the instructions on http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Git_bz_configuration#Get_git-bz a couple of weeks ago
15:32 jcamins      (build-git-snapshot is a command)
15:32 slef         but this is the second report in two days
15:32 jcamins      Is that the command you want to run?
15:32 slef         that says it's pushed :-/
15:32 jcamins      mveron: you suppose?
15:32 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7893 critical, P1 - high, ---, mjr, Pushed to Master , Missing build-dependency on libdatetime-format-dateparse-perl and libreadonly-perl
15:32 slef         is mveron suffering bug 7893?
15:31 mveron       Yes, I suppose...
15:31 nengard      and no i don't have libraries complaining either
15:31 nengard      i'm not seeing one that makes sense (a cron job that is)
15:31 jcamins      mveron: are you trying to run build-get-snapshot?
15:31 slef         nengard: don't all fines need a cron job? And I don't recall any library complaining about it recently but my memory is poor.
15:31 jcamins      slef: oh, good point.
15:31 slef         jcamins: depends if he's trying to run build-git-snapshot
15:31 jcamins      mveron: no, you need to install the missing dependencies.
15:30 mveron       Mean DateParse.pm
15:30 mveron       Mean DatePArce.pm
15:30 mveron       jcamins: I do not find the file DateParce.pm
15:30 jcamins      mveron: that has nothing to do with git. You're missing dependencies. :)
15:29 mveron       Can't locate DateTime/Format/DateParse.pm in @INC
15:29 mveron       After git reset --hard origin/master I get the following error:
15:29 mveron       I have a problem with git:
15:29 cait         hi mveron
15:29 slef         hi mveron
15:28 mveron       Hi #koha
15:04 nengard      does the overdues with fines report work? Does it require a cron job? I have never seen data on this on my test system
15:03 * jcamins    uses ISBD view for the first time ever.
14:44 schuster     jcamins_away - thanks for your insight.
14:21 jenkins_koha paul.poulain: missing \n in updatedatabase that causes some ugly display
14:21 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #710: SUCCESS in 47 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/710/
14:19 mib_ccaynq   hi
14:02 kf           if you get back to it - don't hesitate to throw questions in my direction :)
14:02 kf           I think sometimes I was not clear how to reproduce :(
14:02 kf           :)
14:02 oleonard     I'll try to do more, but got switched to something else
14:01 kf           :)
14:01 kf           hi oleonard - and thx for your sign-off
14:01 oleonard     Hi kf
13:34 jenkins_koha Starting build #710 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
13:28 huginn`      New commit(s) kohagit: missing \n in updatedatabase that causes some ugly display <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5483ec62046fac519c6dc2edb61b9b4c21c82a3c>
12:53 jcamins_away I designed it so that it would be relatively straightforward to plug the linker into viaf or another Linked Data authority file.
12:51 jcamins_away Actually, that was part of my thought process behind the way the Linker I wrote works.
12:50 jcamins_away schuster: I'd love to see Koha use viaf for name authority control.
12:41 schuster     http://kcoyle.blogspot.com/2012/04/viaf-gets-serious.html
12:41 schuster     jcamins_away - what are your thoughts on the Linked Data - VIAF - Virtual Authority File?
12:37 sploenni     jcamins_away: looks very interesting. it's worth a try :)
12:23 jcamins_away lol
12:23 wahanui      rangi's only excuse is I was doing it under protest :)
12:23 slef         wahanui: rangi's only excuse?
12:23 wahanui      guided reports is some of rangi's worst work ever
12:23 slef         wahanui: guided reports?
12:22 wahanui      here huginn` huggie huggie! I've a cluebat for you!
12:22 slef         wahanui: lart huginn`
12:21 jcamins_away sploenni: ^^ that bug talks about marcelr's work.
12:21 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6536 enhancement, P3, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED , Z3950 Enhancements: SRU targets, MARC conversion, additional XSLT processing
12:21 jcamins_away Bug 6536
12:21 huginn`      slef: downloading the Perl source
12:20 slef         huginn`: you suck
12:20 huginn`      slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7778 blocker, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Pushed to Master , Not possible to add new z39.50 servers
12:20 huginn`      slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7832 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Server Z39.50 for Unimarc
12:20 huginn`      slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3087 normal, P5 - low, ---, frederic, NEW , Z39.50 server returns usmarc format records for UNIMARC DB
12:20 huginn`      slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1817 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , pagination links disrupt display on large result sets
12:20 slef         @query sru client
12:20 slef         jcamins_away: you have as much luck with that was I do
12:20 huginn`      jcamins_away: No results for "srw."
12:20 jcamins_away @query srw
12:20 huginn`      jcamins_away: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4925 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Remove Smithsonian as a delivered z39.50 target
12:20 huginn`      jcamins_away: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3782 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , delivered z39.50 targets wrong for NY Public Library and NY University Library
12:20 huginn`      jcamins_away: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3087 normal, P5 - low, ---, frederic, NEW , Z39.50 server returns usmarc format records for UNIMARC DB
12:20 huginn`      jcamins_away: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2960 normal, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Cyrillic Z39-50 servers (bad encoding results)
12:20 huginn`      jcamins_away: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1817 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , pagination links disrupt display on large result sets
12:20 jcamins_away @query sru
12:19 jcamins_away sploenni: marcelr did some work on that, but it hasn't made it into Koha.
12:19 slef         sploenni: it's changeable. http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Bug_Reporting_Guidelines#Enhancement.2FSponsorship_Guidelines
12:18 sploenni     slef: thank you for the info. that's not what i wanted to hear :(
12:17 slef         biab
12:17 slef         sploenni: at least as far as I know.
12:17 slef         sploenni: server, not client.
12:01 sploenni     is it possible to use koha as a SRU client?
12:01 samuel       hi!
12:00 sploenni     hi
10:47 rangi        thanks
10:47 kf           yes
10:44 rangi        that url working for others?
10:44 wahanui      hmmm... logs is http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/
10:44 rangi        logs?
10:23 rangi        hmm
09:58 Oak          fredericd++
09:47 eythian      oh, that's not so nice.
09:47 fredericd    ISO codes are not the same in Koha and in Pootle
09:47 kf           fredericd: the script changed - it's not outputting all the feedback information now - perhaps you were checking for the success messages?
09:47 kf           so not sure what's going wrong
09:47 kf           fredericd: I think we didn't rename the files or changed the structure since 3.6
09:47 eythian      ?
09:47 eythian      for l in `ls /path/to/langs` ; do yourcommand $l ; done
09:47 kf           :(
09:47 fredericd    I can't do it by hand for 46 languages!
09:47 kf           fredericd: yes, seems to be all other languages - exception is french it seems, because the project was already there
09:47 fredericd    but same issue for other languages....
09:47 fredericd    that's the reason why staff was missing from German
09:47 fredericd    kf: something is broken in the script I use to update automatically Pootle DB from Koha .po files...
09:38 kf           fredericd: seems to work ok - only a lot of work to do now
09:37 eythian      oh, crons and inits disabled. Best not forget that one.
09:36 wahanui      well, zebra is a fielded free text indexing and retrieval engine with a Z39.50 front-end. You can use any compatible, commercial, or freeware Z39.50 client to access data stored in Zebra. or the search engine koha uses
09:36 slef         wahanui: zebra?
09:35 wahanui      wiki is, like, http://wiki.koha-community.org
09:35 slef         wahanui: wiki?
09:35 slef         is it possible to search wahanui?
09:34 wahanui      slef: i haven't a clue
09:34 slef         wahanui: enh?
09:34 wahanui      i don't know, slef
09:34 slef         wahanui: enhancement?
09:33 huginn`      slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7759 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tajoli, Needs Signoff , Use Koha-Contrib-Tamil to update Zebra data in background
09:33 huginn`      slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5635 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, stephane.delaune, Needs Signoff , bulkmarcimport new parameters & features
09:33 huginn`      slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6891 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , LDIF interoperability - a proposal
09:33 huginn`      slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5706 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Search, create lists and Export authorities from staff interface
09:33 slef         @query authority export
09:33 eythian      Which are at home.
09:33 eythian      sip up, proper language, no 404's from the images or styles on the front page, responding on all IP addresses, I think I've done enough for a mallowpuff.
09:30 kf           and scary... almost 14000 word
09:30 kf           yes, that looks better
09:29 fredericd    kf: back now for de-DE
09:27 kf           fredericd: to be more precise - in 3.8 the staff po files seem to be missing
09:19 eythian      oh bother, I deleted the SIPconfig to make room. Now I have to grab it from a 1.7GB backup file...
09:18 slef         Two silly microblogs posted already. It must be an odd day.
09:18 eythian      should fix it, it's fairly prominant
09:18 eythian      I remember waitaki pointing it out a while ago I think, too
09:18 eythian      it bit me too
09:17 rangi        ah
09:17 rangi        but place reserve is there
09:17 eythian      rangi: that's because that hasn't been translated
09:17 kf           searching for tags gave an error because some mismatch in language codes
08:50 kf           Oak: does it still work for you? translate.koha-community.org?
05:15 eythian      http://imgur.com/jFigk <-- will make the most sense to NZers
02:38 Brooke       o/
00:32 druthb       yep.
00:31 rangi        the structure is often the hardest bit
00:30 rangi        cool
00:28 druthb       my first draft is due next week; I'm still fiddling with the techie bits, but the basic structure is where I want it.
00:27 rangi        ohh excellent
00:27 druthb       Trying to finish up a book chapter on library data migrations for a book that ITI is publishing this fall.  (using Koha, natch.)
00:25 rangi        yup, often the way
00:24 druthb       yeah.    Could use a couple more weeks, tho.
00:24 rangi        vacation over?
00:23 druthb       hiya, rangi! :)
00:23 rangi        hi druthb
00:23 druthb       o/