Time Nick Message 23:30 rangi gmcharlt++ 22:20 rangi Yum 22:16 jcamins Good night, #koha. 22:16 * jcamins goes to make saag paneer. :) 22:05 cait I agree 22:04 rangi i reckon time to just focus on cleaning for the release, not adding new things 22:04 rangi yep 22:04 cait the logs are messy 22:04 cait I fear so 22:04 rangi a lot of bugs and regressions have crept in in the last few months 22:04 cait only trying to fix it 22:04 cait ah yes 22:04 rangi i just meant in general 22:03 rangi yep 22:03 cait because else my cronjob would sent me a complain mail every minute 22:03 rangi i think time to stablise now before the release, just focus on fixes 22:03 cait I am working on a master branch with the xslt patch applied... 22:03 rangi no, master is a bit of a mess at the moment 22:03 cait but it's a start 22:03 cait and the mails have broken diacritics 22:03 cait still experimenting 22:03 cait perhaps my mail setup 22:03 cait *sigh* 22:03 cait yeah, but still not working on master... 22:00 huginn jcamins: The operation succeeded. 22:00 jcamins @later tell eythian Are you allowed to use Perl scripts in debian/scripts? 21:55 jcamins Yay! 21:55 rangi yay 21:54 cait serial alerts work in 3.6.3! 21:54 cait hah 21:53 rangi heh 21:50 jcamins rangi: well, it's not like koha-foreach is going to work when I'm done with it anyway. :P 21:48 jcamins (I know I could do fork and exec manually) 21:46 jcamins There must be some way in Perl to make system not wait. 21:42 * jcamins ponders. 21:42 jcamins (and sekjal's research suggests that just loading all the C4 modules is a performance killer) 21:41 rangi yep, master is currently dead in the water 21:40 jcamins There won't be a deadlock, which is good, but starting rebuild_zebra apparently involves loading all of C4, including C4::XSLT. 21:39 jcamins Yes, but I'm concerned about the load on the server. 21:39 rangi which you are 21:38 rangi as long as its doing different db 21:38 rangi afaik you cna run zebraidx in parallel 21:38 jcamins If only I knew how to do it. ;) 21:37 jcamins I like the idea of koha-foreach -j N 21:37 rangi yep 21:37 jcamins Actually, I guess if there were a koha-foreach script that didn't run everything in parallel, or managed child processes, it wouldn't even be a problem to use cron. 21:36 rangi so you can still just store it in mysql, and have different indexing jobs running, that use the config files to update the right zebra db 21:35 jcamins Exactly. 21:35 rangi so essentially using zebra like we use mysql 21:35 rangi just one zebrasrv 21:35 sekjal either that, or allow the daemon to handle multiple instances at once 21:35 rangi yep, and sep zebra dbs 21:34 jcamins Because there'd be separate MySQL DBs for each instance. 21:34 rangi well you would need multiple instances of the indexer running 21:34 sekjal runtime memory of a indexer daemon? 21:34 jcamins fredericd's indexer would work well, if I had a single zebraqueue to look at. 21:34 rangi why not in mysql? 21:33 rangi yep 21:33 jcamins Indexing is a bit of an issue, though. 21:32 jcamins Should be reasonably easy to do--I just make the Zebra databases koha_whatever_biblios koha_whatever_authorities, and the searching is happy. 21:32 jcamins So I'd like to share a single Zebra backend. 21:31 jcamins (if I'm running a separate instance of Zebrasrv for each student) 21:31 jcamins I would like to be able to provide Koha instances to library school students, but I don't want to show any favoritism. This means that the 28MB overhead of Zebra is a bit of an issue. 21:29 jcamins rangi: sekjal: any thoughts on where one might store the zebraqueue other than MySQL? 21:29 cait hehe 21:26 jcamins I gave Myshkin a little lick of ricotta. 21:26 jcamins I have an exceedingly happy cat on my lap. 21:25 cait hi jcamins 21:25 rangi hey sekjal and jcamins 21:24 jcamins_away o/ 21:02 cait hi sekjal 21:01 sekjal morning, rangi. evening, cait. 20:54 cait morning rangi :) 20:54 rangi Morning 17:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7821 critical, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Passed QA , XSLT systempreference multi-language support 17:49 jcamins Bug 7821 17:04 jcamins magnus_away: when you're not away, if you have a moment and I'm around, I have a question for you. 16:54 cait jcamins++ 16:52 jcamins Where could we store the zebraqueue if not in MySQL? 16:38 jcamins I mean, I could have the reindex and Zebra run as a completely different user from Apache's Koha user, and it wouldn't cause any problems... yes? 16:38 jcamins The ownership issues with Zebra only have to do with reindexing, right? 16:28 * jcamins_away waves back. 16:15 * cait waves once more 16:02 slef kmkale: I emailed out the first round of paper review requests today. It's coming together! 15:52 kmkale dinner time bbl 15:45 slef ok ok 15:45 kmkale how's the preps going? 15:45 kmkale Hi slef :) 15:45 slef hi kmkale 15:44 kmkale Namaste #koha 14:06 slef ttyl 14:06 slef basically, it's an apache config probelm, more base than koha 14:05 slef Culiforge: hrm, ok, you need to remove the NameVirtualHost *:80 or similar 14:05 Culiforge slef: Ok, gotta go... it's 10AM here. I'm late for breakfast with the family... thanks for the help. gonna think on all this for a bit and maybe come back later 14:03 Culiforge slef: same with 8080 14:03 Culiforge slef: HMMM.. Apache doesn't like that noise --(98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address [::]:80 13:53 slef the virtualhost lines, change them to *:80 and *:8080, or (if you don't want to access this from anywhere except localhost) change NameVirtualHost to 127.0.0.1:80 and add another line NameVirtualHost 127.0.0.1:8080 13:52 slef argh 13:51 Culiforge Syntax OK 13:51 Culiforge _default_:443 koha.battle-creek.k12.mi.us (/etc/httpd/conf.d/ssl.conf:75) 13:51 Culiforge wildcard NameVirtualHosts and _default_ servers: 13:51 Culiforge VirtualHost configuration: 13:51 Culiforge slef: not making any progress... although 'httpd -S #' now returns: [warn] NameVirtualHost *:80 has no VirtualHosts 13:49 Culiforge slef: I just wish there was a way to make ubuntu look like fedora to my boss.. then I'd have this done already. 13:47 Culiforge slef: this isn't my week to be adventursome 13:46 slef Culiforge: spoilsport 13:46 Culiforge slef: I'll just leave it in httpd.conf then. no need to break more stuff 13:45 slef Culiforge: both mightcause a prob or might be fine 13:45 slef Culiforge: either 13:45 Culiforge slef: I see that httpd.conf calls other *.conf in the directory 13:44 Culiforge slef: would the Listen 8080 go in just the httpd.conf or does it need to be in koha-httpd.conf as well? 13:34 Culiforge slef: the tiger is Montecore 13:32 slef Seigfried and Roy... one thing I've never understood... which one's the tiger? 13:31 Culiforge slef: I'm sure there's a club for that (or at least a support group) 13:30 * slef ponders cataloguing himslef 13:29 Culiforge slef: that's in the 'private' library... it's confidential... 13:28 slef Culiforge: and if you dated yourself, did you put the date in the accession date MARC21 field? 13:28 slef Culiforge: and if you dated yourself, is that incest? 13:27 Culiforge slef: man, did I just date myself.. 13:26 Culiforge slef: nice, thanks for the confidence vote 8-ball 13:26 slef Culiforge: reply hazy, ask again later 13:25 Culiforge slef: hehe, so what's the probablility of me figuring this out? ;) 13:25 slef Culiforge: yes, probably both *:80 and *:8080, and Listen *:8080 too 13:25 Culiforge slef: makes sense 13:24 slef I'm a statistician! ;) 13:24 slef as far as I know, anyway 13:24 slef ::1 is the IPv6 way of writing 127.0.0.1 13:22 Culiforge back 13:16 Culiforge afk one sec, coffee and let the dog out 13:16 Culiforge slef: so I'm a library type, not a networking type. what does ::1 mean 13:07 Culiforge NameVirtualHost *:80 in httpd.conf, should there also be NameVirtualHost *:8080 ? 13:02 wahanui rumour has it i am a repository of important and useful and accurate information or at least partially slow 13:02 slef wahanui: wahanui? 13:02 wahanui OK, slef. 13:02 slef wahanui: virtualhost is http://httpd.apache.org/docs/trunk/vhosts/ 13:01 Culiforge hold a sec.. didn't edit httpd.conf 13:00 wahanui errrrgh arrrrgh stop it that tickles a bit! 13:00 slef wahanui: die! 13:00 wahanui I like *your* figure 13:00 slef wahanui: figures 13:00 wahanui slef: i'm not following you... 13:00 slef wahanui: you're useless 13:00 wahanui wish i knew, slef 13:00 slef wahanui: virtualhost? 13:00 slef ok, in the 127.0.0.1:8080, what ServerName is given? 12:59 Culiforge still no webinstaller tho. 12:58 Culiforge restarted anyway.. no harm.. 12:58 slef I don't think it needs a restart 12:58 slef reload it 12:53 Culiforge do I need to restart apache after editing? 12:52 slef for each address 12:52 slef else apache will only serve the default virtualhost 12:51 slef you need to remove the # in front of namevirtualhost 12:49 Culiforge I have #namevirtualhost * then ##opac / <virtualhost 127.0.0.1:80> and then ##intranet <virtualhost 127.0.0.1:8080> 12:48 wahanui slef: i don't know 12:48 slef wahanui: NameVirtualHost? 12:48 wahanui i don't know, slef 12:48 slef wahanui: apache docs? 12:45 slef Culiforge: ok, so are there lines "NameVirtualHost ::1:80" and "NameVirtualHost ::1:8080" in your apache config and does koha-httpd.conf have sections <NameVirtualHost ::1:80> and 8080? 12:43 slef Culiforge: it sounds awfully like you've put (or the installer guessed) Koha on koha.battle-creek.k12.mi.us and then either not told apache to serve NameVirtualHosts or not told anything where to find koha.battle-creek.k12.mi.us. 12:43 Culiforge koha.battle-creek.k12.mi.us is in hosts, yes led by ::1 12:42 Culiforge looing at hosts file.. one sec... 12:42 Culiforge slef: currently trying localhost, 127.0.0.1, koha.battle-creek.k12.mi.us, and 192.168.1.2 all with :8080 to no avail 12:39 slef and what URL were you accessing to try to look at koha? 12:39 slef ok, and does either "host koha.battle-creek.k12.mi.us" work for you or is there a line for "koha.battle-creek.k12.mi.us" in your /etc/hosts? 12:38 Culiforge slef: ok, so in resolv.conf it lists 'search' as the address above without the koha. and 'nameserver' as my router address '192.168.1.1 12:36 slef Culiforge: might not be enough to stop koha working, but doesn't help. 12:35 Culiforge slef: ok, I'll check that out 12:35 slef Culiforge: sorry, your hosts or resolv.conf is misconfigured 12:34 Culiforge slef: httpd: apr_sockaddr_info_get() failed for koha.battle-creek.k12.mi.us 12:33 Culiforge I'll give it a shot and see what happens 12:33 slef or apache2 -S # if it's called apache2 not httpd 12:33 slef httpd -S # to show where each site comes from, I think 12:33 slef that def works on deb 12:33 Culiforge slef: or is that a deb command 12:32 slef no idea 12:32 Culiforge will that work on Fedora (ducks and covers) 12:32 wahanui errrrgh arrrrgh stop it that tickles a bit! 12:32 slef wahanui: die! 12:32 wahanui slef: what? 12:32 slef wahanui: 50% success! 12:32 wahanui index of / is, like, a sign that you may need to run sudo a2dissite default 12:32 slef wahanui: index of /? 12:32 wahanui i don't know, slef 12:32 slef wahanui: it works? 12:32 slef it works is a sign that you may need to run sudo a2dissite default 12:32 slef index of / is a sign that you may need to run sudo a2dissite default 12:31 Culiforge no, it's currently completely local 12:31 wahanui slef: bugger all, i dunno 12:31 slef wahanui: it works? 12:31 slef Culiforge: does the server serve any other websites? 12:31 slef check /etc/apache2/sites-enabled 12:29 Culiforge question for you or anyone else lurking about.... koha installed, all fixed up try webinstaller... get the apache 'index of /' page. checked hosts, httpd.conf, koha-httpd.conf I'm at a loss. any thoughts? 12:27 slef Culiforge: well, blooming layabouts, always sleeping ;) 12:27 Culiforge slef: ++ 12:27 slef Culiforge: OIC 12:18 Culiforge <back, just logged on and it said the topic is: happy friday NZ, (I know it's not friday.. just playin along :) ) 12:04 cait I am not subssribed to any other lists - not sure where it should go 12:02 slef when it goes wider, it needs the "About Kohacon" and "About Koha" bits too 12:02 slef rangi did good 12:02 wahanui code4lib is mostly coders 12:02 slef code4lib 12:01 cait I haven't mailed any... but I think rangi did koha + koha-devel and 1 more 12:01 slef on the wiki would be agood place to keep track 12:01 cait but at least she will be around sometime 12:01 cait oh :( 12:01 cait should we keep track of which lists we mailed somewhere? 12:01 slef $RealJob may drag her away before end of hackfest though 12:00 cait I will bring her chocolate 12:00 cait that's ok 12:00 slef cait: yes, so if you refuse to sponsor, you'll have to face her 12:00 cait i will still like her 11:59 slef cait: wait until she starts asking you for money ;) 11:59 cait will S be in Edinburgh? :) 11:59 cait nah 11:59 cait S is a nice person :) 11:59 slef This may be the end of a beautiful relationship ;) 11:58 slef I think S just offered to work on kohacon12 sponsorships. 11:58 cait so interesting papers? :) 11:58 cait heh 11:58 slef ohhh it's the stress you know 11:57 cait I started to worry a bit 11:57 cait hehe 11:57 slef I knew it was there somewhere ;) 11:56 wahanui LOVE YOU TOO MATE but shut up and let me work 11:56 slef wahanui: ILOVEYOU 11:54 cait heh 11:53 wahanui slef: sorry... 11:53 slef wahanui: oh get bent 11:53 wahanui slef: huh? 11:53 slef wahanui: I LOVE YOU 11:53 wahanui slef: huh? 11:53 slef wahanui: I LOVE YOU! 11:51 cait sunday in nz 11:50 wahanui i guess Friday is It's Friday, Friday Gotta get down on Friday 11:50 slef Friday? 11:47 Culiforge Happy Friday NZ and #koha! 10:46 slef lots of good papers coming in 10:46 * slef does a bit more kohacon12 tweaking 10:42 slef mle++ 10:42 slef yay mle 09:31 * mle will chase the internet access on MOnday 07:12 cait hey #koha 06:49 Oak hello bag 06:49 bag hiya Oak 06:32 Oak kia ora #koha