Time Nick Message 00:08 sekjal okay, the QAQ is well under control... moving on to the Needs Signoff bugs 00:18 rangi libsysguy_dinner: giving them all nice bug 5549 : 00:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5549 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, tdavis, Failed QA , Hourly Loans 00:18 rangi commit messages too 00:18 rangi so that its much easier to debug/check 00:19 rangi all flu jabbed, back into it 00:24 jcamins Hehe. 00:24 jcamins I forgot I used the word "agitas" in a commit message. 00:24 jcamins That was a nice commit message. 00:28 * sekjal is losing steam 00:29 jcamins sekjal: I'll find a nice easy one for you. 00:29 jcamins Bug 7702. 00:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7702 minor, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Test for C4::Heading::MARC21 should only run under MARC21 00:29 eythian_bucklame jcamins: apparently he wants something steamy 00:29 jcamins Bug 7617 isn't too difficult either. 00:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7617 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Authority search results should optionally be sorted by system order 00:29 jcamins eythian_bucklame: hmm. 00:30 eythian_bucklame "Add a default XXX item type" or something perhaps 00:30 jcamins lol 00:30 jcamins You could offer your opinion on bug 7065 or bug 4045. 00:31 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7065 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , reserves table needs a primary key 00:31 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4045 critical, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , No check for maximum number of allowed holds. 00:31 sekjal jcamins: I think this will have to be the last. I'm feeling like I did right before I broke Circulation for day 00:31 jcamins Fair enough. 00:33 eythian_bucklame sekjal: so you're suggesting implementing a random "fall back to paper" mode, to keep people on their toes? :) 00:33 libsysguy im baaaacccckkk :) for a second 00:33 sekjal for 7702: shouldn't a MARC21 only test only work for MARC21, not just 'not UNIMARC'? 00:33 jcamins eythian_bucklame: ooh, Voyager has that! 00:33 eythian_bucklame haha. So does Liberty apparently. 00:33 sekjal eythian_bucklame: huh? which what and the who now? 00:34 jcamins sekjal: possibly. It works properly with NORMARC, so rather than messing with magnuse's domain, I set it to not UNIMARC. 00:34 eythian_bucklame sekjal: break circulation for a day so that librarians don't forget how to do it manually 00:34 sekjal eythian_bucklame: ah, yes, that... 00:34 sekjal yes 00:34 sekjal that was the plan 00:34 rangi sekjal: ... did you want all the release notes removed? because thats what this patch from libsysguy does 00:35 sekjal rangi: that doesn't sound like a good thing 00:35 rangi yeah i think ill leave that patch out 00:35 sekjal my interest is in making things be consistent 00:35 sekjal either all the release notes, or none of them 00:35 libsysguy ohh i misunderstood 00:36 * libsysguy will understand sekjal one day :-/ 00:36 rangi i think outside the scope of 5549 00:36 rangi jcamins has luckily opened a bug for that already 00:36 rangi so i think ill not touch the release notes at all with 5549 00:36 rangi and that one can fix that 00:36 libsysguy gotcha 00:36 libsysguy so if you're already at that one 00:36 sekjal libsysguy: you're doing awesome... I've been told I'm not the easiest person to communicate with sometimes 00:37 libsysguy you've been trucking 00:37 rangi yeah im nearly done 00:37 libsysguy the curse of the CS degree :p 00:37 jcamins I reported a bug about the missing release notes. 00:37 libsysguy gotcha 00:38 libsysguy ok going to spend some time with the gf 00:38 libsysguy bbl 00:43 sekjal okay, I'm done for the night. looking forward to wrapping up 5549, hopefully tomorrow 00:44 jcamins Yay! 00:44 jcamins Have a good night. 00:44 jcamins And enjoy your conference. 00:44 sekjal thanks, you too 00:44 sekjal (for the night, not necessarily the conference) 00:44 sekjal (unless you're attending one) 00:44 sekjal (then I hope it's enjoyable) 00:44 jcamins lol 00:44 jcamins Go to sleep. 00:44 sekjal k 00:44 sekjal night, #koha 00:48 rangi http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=wip/koha-catalyst.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/merged_5549 00:48 rangi done 00:48 rangi all apart from the test 01:01 talljoy yo 01:03 rangi yo 01:03 talljoy what's up? 01:03 rangi hourly loans 01:03 wahanui hourly loans are indeed on the horizon, that would help you. Patron records can be kept indefinitely (though probably you'd want to archive them periodically 01:03 talljoy sweet 01:16 Oak kia ora #koha 01:18 jcamins I heard a rumor that it's your birthday. Is that true? 01:19 Oak :) it's on 21st March 01:20 jcamins So tomorrow. 01:20 Oak yes. 01:22 rangi who wants an easy signoff? 01:23 rangi bug 7408 01:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7408 blocker, P5 - low, ---, koha.sekjal, Needs Signoff , Expire holds that have been waiting too long 01:23 Oak I'll do it. But will do it after 5-6 hours. if someone does it before then... okay. 01:26 Oak i mean i'll talk to cait first, she'll know if should do it or not. someone does it before me, no problem. 01:28 rangi its just a typo fix 01:29 rangi hmm we need some sample items in the sample data 01:30 Oak in any case... still, at least after an hour from now. electricity is about to go out here. 01:46 Judit hi 01:46 Judit i have something weird here, and couldnt find it in bugzilla 01:47 Judit the help pages on the staff client 01:47 Judit Template process failed: file error - /home/koha/kohaclone/koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/help/.tt: not found at /home/koha/kohaclone/C4/Templates.pm line 126. 01:47 Judit same happens here: http://intranet.bywatersolutions.com/ 01:47 rangi all pages or just the mainpage.pl 01:47 rangi yeah its because that page doesnt have a proper name 01:48 Judit main 01:48 rangi click on somethign then go back 01:48 rangi and it will now work 01:48 rangi there is a bug for it 01:48 rangi cant remember what it is 01:48 Judit aha 01:48 Judit works now 01:48 Judit thanks 01:48 Judit so we have a bug for it 01:48 Judit okay then 01:48 rangi its only when you dont have a page 01:48 rangi ie you are at http://intranet.bywatersolutions.com/ 01:48 rangi not 01:49 rangi http://intranet.bywatersolutions.com/cgi-bin/koha/mainpage.pl 01:49 Judit i see 01:49 rangi so it doesnt know which help file to show 01:49 Judit fair enough 05:15 hdl @later tell dpavlin some nice reading to go further into PSGI integration into Koha http://advent.plackperl.org/2009/12/day-8-adapting-web-frameworks-to-psgi.html 05:15 huginn hdl: The operation succeeded. 05:15 hdl @later tell lducos some nice reading to go further into PSGI integration into Koha http://advent.plackperl.org/2009/12/day-8-adapting-web-frameworks-to-psgi.html 05:15 huginn hdl: The operation succeeded. 05:15 hdl @later tell lds some nice reading to go further into PSGI integration into Koha http://advent.plackperl.org/2009/12/day-8-adapting-web-frameworks-to-psgi.html 05:15 huginn hdl: The operation succeeded. 05:16 hdl @later tell dpavlin other reading :http://git.661346.n2.nabble.com/RFC-PATCH-0-5-gitweb-Proof-of-concept-of-PSGI-interface-td7340344.html 05:16 huginn hdl: The operation succeeded. 05:16 hdl @later tell lducos other reading :http://git.661346.n2.nabble.com/RFC-PATCH-0-5-gitweb-Proof-of-concept-of-PSGI-interface-td7340344.html 05:16 huginn hdl: The operation succeeded. 05:16 hdl @later tell lds other reading :http://git.661346.n2.nabble.com/RFC-PATCH-0-5-gitweb-Proof-of-concept-of-PSGI-interface-td7340344.html 05:16 huginn hdl: The operation succeeded. 05:26 rangi Evening 05:26 rangi Hackfest going well hdl? 06:40 rangi hmm 06:46 rangi just had to block another couple of ip from download 06:49 mtj oh really ... ? :/ 06:49 rangi i think most likely badly configured software 06:49 mtj someone ddos-ing the Koha git server? 06:49 rangi naw, you cant do a ddos with 1 ip :) 06:50 rangi and its the bugs/download server 06:50 rangi its most likely just someones download tool being retarded 06:50 mtj heh s/ddos/dos/ :) 06:50 rangi downloading almost all of a file, 06:50 rangi then starting again 06:51 rangi no load on the server, but if i 403 it, they might notice and fix it :) 07:04 cait @wunder marseille 07:04 huginn cait: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 4.0°C (7:30 AM CET on March 20, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.42 in 1030 hPa (Rising). 07:04 cait hm 07:04 rangi @wunder nzwn 07:04 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 12.0°C (7:00 PM NZDT on March 20, 2012). Conditions: Rain Showers. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady). 07:08 cait can I come over? 07:10 rangi heh its pretty yuck 07:11 cait yeah, but warmer! 07:11 cait :) 07:31 kmkale I am migrating a large Koha installation to newer hardware. Is it safe to truncate the sessions table before taking the backup? 07:32 kmkale This table has grown huge 07:32 rangi yep thats safe to do 07:32 kmkale thanks rangi :) 07:32 rangi there is a cron job you might like to set up on th enew hardware 07:33 kmkale the database cleanup one? 07:34 rangi yep 07:34 rangi 16 1 * * * $KOHA_CRON_PATH/cleanup_database.pl --sessions --zebraqueue 10 07:35 rangi also 07:35 rangi you can use memcached for sessions 07:35 rangi tis much faster, and you dont have those issues anymore :) 07:35 rangi there is a syspref for it 07:35 reiveune hello 07:35 wahanui salut, reiveune 07:36 kmkale Thanks rangi 07:39 magnuse kia ora #koha 07:44 kmkale Namaste magnuse :) 07:44 magnuse namaskar kmkale 07:44 kmkale got to run. BBL 07:45 magnuse yay! http://emillymcleay.com/2011/10/27/thats-brave/ 07:47 rangi i actually left a comment on there its still waiting moderation :) 07:47 magnuse me too 07:47 rangi :) 07:47 magnuse bet it's the same comment, more or less :-) 07:48 rangi that its typical of companies that have stopped innovating to use FUD 07:48 rangi that was the gist of mine 07:49 magnuse ah, ok, mine was there's plenty of support companies to choose from if ever you need one 07:49 magnuse guess we had two different angles then :-) 07:49 rangi :) 07:49 rangi complementary 07:50 magnuse yup 07:50 magnuse ah france is waking up 07:50 magnuse @wunder marseille 07:50 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 7.0°C (8:30 AM CET on March 20, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.42 in 1030 hPa (Steady). 07:51 magnuse ooh, nice temperature for for sitting in a room full of glowing computers 07:51 rangi heh 07:52 alex_a bonjour #koha 07:52 magnuse bonjour alex_a 07:53 alex_a there's no more magnuse's chocolate at biblibre this morning 07:54 magnuse awww... 07:56 magnuse i better bring more next year... 07:58 mbalmer bonjour 08:03 magnuse hiya eythian_bucklame and oleonard 08:03 eythian_bucklame hi 08:04 oleonard Late hour for you eythian_bucklame ? 08:04 rangi hi oleonard and eythian_bucklame 08:04 * oleonard isn't used to calculating your time from France :) 08:04 eythian_bucklame not terribly late, 9pm. Just sitting playing games on my laptop. 08:04 magnuse bucklame - the city that never sleeps... 08:07 Joubu hello 08:08 rangi hi Joubu 08:08 magnuse hiya Joubu 08:09 * magnuse waves to cait and asaurat 08:09 rangi hi matts asaurat and cait 08:10 matts hi ! 08:10 cait hi magnuse and rangi :) 08:11 asaurat hi ! 08:14 clrh hello 08:14 wahanui hi, clrh 08:16 rangi hi Guillaume and clrh 08:17 clrh hello rangi 08:31 rangi heya paul_p 08:32 rangi if you have a sec today, bug 7408 08:32 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7408 blocker, P5 - low, ---, koha.sekjal, Signed Off , Expire holds that have been waiting too long 08:32 rangi there was an error in syspref.sql that breaks new installs 08:37 clrh just for information if you need it: https://github.com/clrh/koha_community 08:38 clrh mbalmer: if you talk about pm responsability and database layer, please ping me, I am interested to participate 08:38 rangi pm responsibility? 08:40 mbalmer clrh, we started. 08:40 mbalmer we are in the small box on the left side 08:41 hdl #!/bin/bash 08:41 hdl SCRIPT_URI=https://catalogue.univ-lyon3.fr/cgi-bin/koha/opac-user.pl PERL5LIB=/home/kohaadmin/src KOHA_CONF=/home/kohaadmin/etc/koha-conf.xml starman --workers 6 --port 5000 --pid /home/kohaadmin/var/run/starman.pid /home/kohaadmin/prod.psgi 2>/home/kohaadmin/var/log/starman.err >/home/kohaadmin/var/log/starman.log & 08:42 hdl SCRIPT_URI=https://catalogue.univ-lyon3.fr/cgi-bin/koha/opac-user.pl PERL5LIB=/home/kohaadmin/src KOHA_CONF=/home/kohaadmin/etc/koha-conf.xml starman -M FindBin --workers 6 --port 5000 --pid /home/kohaadmin/var/run/starman.pid /home/kohaadmin/prod.psgi 2>/home/kohaadmin/var/log/starman.err >/home/kohaadmin/var/log/starman.log & 09:20 oleonard I'm not used to talking out loud about Koha more than I type about Koha here 09:21 cait :) 09:25 mbalmer http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/PostgreSQL 09:26 * paul_p now head to pushing patches... 09:26 cait paul_p: :) 09:26 paul_p starting with 7724, that should fix jenkns, hopefully 09:27 magnuse bug 7724 09:27 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7724 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Passed QA , Tests requiring Zebra should be skipped if Zebra isn't set up 09:50 rangi http://kohakenya.wordpress.com/2012/03/20/r-i-p-the-kardex/ 09:56 * rangi goes to sleep 09:56 cait good night :) 10:02 hdl https://github.com/eiro/p5-plack-devel-debug-devel-size/blob/master/lib/Plack/Middleware/Debug/Devel/Size.pm 10:15 mveron Bonjour #koha 10:16 magnuse hiya mveron 10:16 * mveron Hopes that mbalmer had a good flight an tht he got some Moules mrainières yesterday 10:16 paul_p bonjour mveron. mbalmer arrived here, with some swiss chocolates :D 10:16 paul_p dunno about moules marinières ;-) 10:17 mveron dunno? 10:18 mveron I'm learning git... Checked out Bug 7733, applied, tested, dates are displayed correctly. Next step? 10:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7733 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , HidePatronName not working on moredetail 10:19 mveron sorry, mistaked, bug 7737, should put my glasses... 10:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7737 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Needs Signoff , Use of date filters on bookseller pages 10:25 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7724: Skip Linker test if Zebra isn't set up <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9f7e340f82f8e430389683153ddf300c9a64c2a0> 10:25 paul_p magnuse pushing bug 7696 now ;-) 10:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7696 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Passed QA , NORMARC lacks staff results XSLT 10:28 magnuse thanks paul_p! 10:28 magnuse mveron: see http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Sign_off_on_patches 10:32 jenkins_koha Starting build #662 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #644 12 j ago) 10:49 vfernandes hi guys 10:49 mveron Thanks, magnuse. I followed the steps in http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Git_bz_configuration. 10:49 mveron Hope that it is OK like this? 10:51 cait mveron++ :) 10:51 cait it looks good to me 10:51 vfernandes today I was doing another installation of Koha to another client and I having some encoding problems 10:51 cait ah no 10:51 cait the sign-off line is missing 10:51 vfernandes on the opac-MARCDetail 10:51 cait mveron: still around? 10:51 mveron yes 10:51 cait ok 10:52 cait I think oyu might have skipped a step or 2 10:52 vfernandes i'm having also problems on cataloguing pages 10:52 cait we could try to figure it out together? 10:52 vfernandes anyone had already this problem? 10:52 cait vfernandes: pehaps it#s aproblem with your mysql configuration? 10:53 vfernandes the encoding of mysql is utf8 10:53 mveron Cait: Can we figure it out in the afternoon? - Should run away for a meeting.. 10:53 vfernandes the data on the tables are correct 10:53 cait of course 10:54 cait mveron: just jump in here 10:54 mveron Thanks. Till later... 10:54 cait we might be away for lunch or something, but I am sure someone will be here 10:54 vfernandes cait: the same database in another Koha installation as no encoding problems 10:55 cait I am not sure 10:55 cait there are some hints about encoding on the wiki 10:55 cait perhaps you might want to go and look there 10:58 mtj vfernandes: ... or use debian? 10:58 vfernandes ok... i've changed the mysql configuration to a large database but the encoding stills utf8... can this change cause the encoding problem? 10:58 cait utf8 is correct 10:59 vfernandes mtj i'm using opensuse 11:01 vfernandes http://koha.ulusiada.pt/cgi-bin/koha/opac-MARCdetail.pl?biblionumber=84701 11:02 mtj vfernandes: load your database into a debian koha... does your encoding problem still exist? 11:04 vfernandes I have another installation of Koha on Ubuntu Server where the database is the same but the encoding problem doesn't exist 11:04 cait what is your Locale? 11:06 cait http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Encoding_and_Character_Sets_in_Koha 11:09 vfernandes LANG=pt_PT.UTF-8 11:12 jcamins_away 57 unread messages on the Koha lists. 11:13 mbalmer amazaing. PostgreSQL layer proof of concept works, including unit tests 11:13 francharb 0/ #koha 11:13 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed! 11:13 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #662: FIXED in 41 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/662/ 11:13 jenkins_koha jcamins: Bug 7724: Skip Linker test if Zebra isn't set up 11:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7724 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Tests requiring Zebra should be skipped if Zebra isn't set up 11:14 vfernandes the database is fine because it's working in another enviromment 11:14 jcamins_away :D No more e-mails from jenkins! 11:15 vfernandes could be tmpl or encodings? sometimes SVN changes the encoding 11:16 cait yay! 11:16 cait jcamins++ 11:25 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7719 - Change state of controls based on whether boxes are checked <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=74753b4b69eba4a23a8e37f48bf402482136a367> / Bug 6440: Implement OAI-PMH Sets <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3b0d4e04e09f37e8dcbaba71abd47980bfef7059> / Bug 7696 - NORMARC lacks staff results XSLT <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdif 11:25 vfernandes i don't know what to do more :/ 11:28 vfernandes more information 11:28 vfernandes opac-detail.pl charset: utf8 11:28 vfernandes opac-MARCDetail.pl charset: us-ascii 11:31 jenkins_koha Starting build #663 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED) 11:32 vfernandes i'm driving crazy :/ 11:48 oleonard Cheese for lunch! 11:48 magnuse woot! 11:48 magnuse and probably french cheese at that? :-) 11:48 oleonard Time to be jealous, everyone! 11:48 magnuse you bet! 12:13 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #663: SUCCESS in 41 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/663/ 12:13 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 7526 - longoverdue.pl leaves items marked as lost as still checked out to patron 12:13 jenkins_koha * magnus: Bug 7696 - NORMARC lacks staff results XSLT 12:13 jenkins_koha * julian.maurice: Bug 6440: Implement OAI-PMH Sets 12:13 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 7719 - Change state of controls based on whether boxes are checked 12:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7526 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , longoverdue.pl leaves items marked as lost as still checked out to patron 12:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7696 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to Master , NORMARC lacks staff results XSLT 12:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6440 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , Koha's OAI-PMH does not support sets 12:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7719 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Change state of controls based on whether boxes are checked 12:18 mtj vfernandes: why not use ubuntu/debian, and not opensuse... problem solved? 12:18 Oak kia ora #koha 12:18 Oak hello cait :) 12:19 Oak me go now 12:32 sekjal morning, #koha 12:33 mbalmer a bit of docs on the PostgreSQL stuff Stephan and I worked on this morning: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/PostgreSQL 12:36 asaurat death by cheese 12:38 magnuse asaurat: sounds like lovely way to go :-) 12:38 asaurat indeed :D 12:38 magnuse @later tell wizzyrea http://librarygame.co.uk/ 12:38 huginn magnuse: The operation succeeded. 12:39 sekjal paul_p: I'm going to finish testing the improvements to Hourly Loans today 12:40 sekjal I think rangi and libsysguy addressed everything I had found problematic 12:40 paul_p hi sekjal. 3 librarians are playing with it this afternoon at the hackfest (on sandbox 6) 12:40 sekjal paul_p: great! 12:40 sekjal the more librarians, the better. they may find hidden strangeness I wouldn't otherwise find 12:42 * cait waves :) 12:43 sekjal hi, cait! 12:43 * sekjal is in his all-day Usability workshop, waiting for it to all begin 12:48 hdl https://docs.google.com/a/biblibre.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AicRpO68EOB7dEt2MGhmeHZYZ05ISTRVc2pIa25IQ1E#gid=0 12:49 hdl www.foxtons.co.uk 13:02 slef hdl: you like estate agents? 13:04 sekjal workshop is starting... 13:05 edveal Anyone know how to go about changing the text in the class "dialog alert" for when a patrons card is about to expire? 13:05 hdl slef: just asked on #plack for a site using plack 13:07 oleonard edveal, OPAC or intranet? 13:07 edveal oleonard OPAC? 13:08 jcamins_away I want to buy some cheese! 13:08 * jcamins_away stops channelling Monty Python, and gets ready to go. 13:08 oleonard edveal, I don't see an easy way to do that. It would be a nice enhancement to add unique IDs to each error message generated by the template 13:09 edveal That was what I thought. 13:09 oleonard Pending that you'd have to do a brute-force search for div.alert > span [starts with="your card..."] (that's just a diagram, not real syntax) 13:10 oleonard It's possible if clumsy. 13:13 edveal Thanks oleonard, I will not be spending a great deal of time on this. Just wanted confirmation that I was right. 13:19 alaquerre Good morning #Koha. Is there any reason why when we do writeoff, the table accountlines dont save the itemnumber ? Because of that, it's really hard to read a user account because you dont really know where the writeoff is tie to. 13:20 sekjal alaquerre: probably no reason, no... the whole Accounts area of Koha has grown very organically 13:21 oleonard sekjal, That's a generous way to put it ;) 13:22 alaquerre :-) okay - Do you see any thing wrong adding this ? ( Any side effect we need to think of ? ) 13:23 sekjal alaquerre: you'd have a "cut point" in your data... before it doesn't have itemnumber, after it does... this would need to be factored into the reports you run and the expectations your librarians have 13:26 alaquerre sekjal : Well that's a problem we live with right now, so for sure we will be only looking forward. The people really hate this section and is asking for lot's of change. They would like to have "real" user account management tools. Ok, I'll look here on what we can do and share it to the community after that. Thanks. 13:26 sekjal alaquerre: any reworking you do, I'd recommend keeping the whole module in mind, and sharing any development plans publicly with the rest of Koha 13:29 wizzyrea magnuse: that looks interesting - proprietary though :( 13:29 alaquerre sekjal: Don't worry :-), that's my plan. I would like to have the smallest delta we can have against the community. 13:29 sekjal alaquerre: great :) 13:29 alaquerre All right, again thanks for your input and have a good one. 13:31 magnuse wizzyrea: yup :-( 13:33 magnuse alaquerre++ 13:33 JesseM Morning #koha 13:33 sekjal morning, JesseM 13:34 JesseM Hey sekjal hows the brew coming? 13:34 sekjal bottled, conditioned, and served! 13:34 sekjal had some last weekend 13:34 JesseM very nice 13:34 sekjal turned out pretty good.... a little sweet, light on the carbonation 13:34 sekjal easy drinkin' 13:35 JesseM not too bad for a first run at it 13:35 sekjal yeah, I'm encouraged. I know what I can do to improve things, so my next run should begin shortly 13:36 * wizzyrea conspires a way to try some of sekjal's beer 13:37 sekjal wizzyrea: I would totally mail you some if it wasn't illegal 13:37 wizzyrea hehe 13:37 wizzyrea guess we'll have to figure a way to get the girl to the brew then. 13:37 sekjal that'd be awesome! 13:38 wizzyrea ^.^ 13:38 sekjal next batch is going to be an IPA 13:39 sekjal I think those need to condition longer... probably won't be ready until May/June 13:39 wizzyrea ooh IPA 13:41 oleonard Ready to bring to KohaCon sekjal :) 13:42 oleonard I have a question about Bug 6209, having just begun some work on it 13:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6209 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Standardize on one javascript library for client-side form validation 13:43 mbalmer who added 'ExpireReservesMaxPickUpDelayCharge' to sysprefs.sql?? 13:43 mbalmer line 352.. 13:43 wizzyrea git blame? 13:43 wahanui git blame is handy, but it's just one tool in our debugging arsenal 13:44 sekjal mbalmer: that was bug 7408 13:44 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7408 blocker, P5 - low, ---, koha.sekjal, Signed Off , Expire holds that have been waiting too long 13:44 mbalmer sekjal, at least in .ch we usually terminate sql statements with a ';'… ;P 13:44 oleonard While I'm dealing with markup related to required fields, is it time to add the HTML5 "required" attribute? 13:45 oleonard We've already added the nonstandard "autocomplete" attribute in some places 13:45 wizzyrea what does it give us? 13:46 oleonard For modern browsers it gives browser-enforced validation of required fields (javascript-independent) 13:46 wizzyrea ooo 13:47 wizzyrea downsides? 13:47 wizzyrea (incompatibility with older browsers, for 1, I'm sure) 13:47 oleonard http://www.w3schools.com/html5/tryit.asp?filename=tryhtml5_input_required 13:47 oleonard Older browsers won't enforce it, but they won't break either 13:47 wizzyrea I like that. 13:48 * wizzyrea tries it in firefox 13:48 oleonard Since I'm proposing to add some consistent JS validation to the staff client older browsers would be covered by that 13:48 oleonard (and newer browsers with JS enabled) 13:48 * wizzyrea taps her toe while firefox updates 13:48 oleonard I think validator complaints are really the only downside that I know of at this stage 13:49 wizzyrea but it's valid html5, right? 13:49 wizzyrea it's pretty in firefox too 13:50 oleonard valid html5 yes, just not valid according to our doctype 13:50 wizzyrea gotya 13:50 * oleonard ignores all questions about converting the templates to html5 13:50 maximep is it possible yet to style html5 validations to look the same in all browsers ? 13:51 maximep they are so ugly by default :/ 13:51 wizzyrea I didn't think they were particularly ugly. 13:51 oleonard maximep, I assume not, but I don't know 13:52 wizzyrea first chrome, 2nd firefox 13:52 wizzyrea http://screencast.com/t/4jIwgzWRfr1 13:54 oleonard wizzyrea: And my Firefox looks different than yours too 13:54 wizzyrea that was the latest one that auto-update gave me 13:54 wizzyrea (plus, mac) 13:55 oleonard Anyway, I think the answer is that since validator complaints are the only downside I should proceed until I find otherwise 13:55 wizzyrea maximep https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/blogs/bobleah/entry/html5_example_form_validation_and_form_elements141?lang=en 13:55 maximep looks good in chrome... really incredibly ugly in ff 13:55 wizzyrea I actually like it better in firefox - it keeps your eye on the ball 13:56 wizzyrea "hey idiot, this is the one I was complaining about" 13:56 sekjal mbalmer: the way the sysprefs got added for 7408 was... problematic 13:58 * paul_p on bug 7408 follow-up now 13:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7408 blocker, P5 - low, ---, koha.sekjal, Signed Off , Expire holds that have been waiting too long 14:01 clrh mbalmer: you talk me about a poc, did you share it somewhere? 14:01 oleonard wizzyrea, Ubuntu Firefox: http://www.screencast.com/t/MLqK5XKn 14:01 mtj this is kinda cute -> http://www.educause.edu/NC11/Program/PS06 14:02 * mveron Waves to mbalmer 14:02 wizzyrea still not terrible. 14:26 gaetan_B wizzyrea: hello :) 14:26 gaetan_B i was discussing patron search with kf just now 14:27 cait mveron: give me 10 mins? 14:27 cait I would like to finish this table 14:27 mveron Of course! 14:29 gaetan_B wizzyrea: my take on it is that we should always use a "contain" search, which would generate some noise but make it easy to find patrons with names like "De Villepin" 14:29 wizzyrea which search are you looking at? 14:29 gaetan_B at the moment a search for "Villepin" wouldn't bring any result 14:29 mtj http://www.educause.edu/sites/default/files/library/presentations/NC11/PS06/KohaPoster.pdf 14:30 wizzyrea are you talking about the search from Patrons or the patron search from the "check out" box 14:30 wizzyrea they are different 14:30 gaetan_B wizzyrea: it works (like i expect it) in circulation.pl, but not in member.pl 14:31 gaetan_B i think it should be consistent and work in the same way in both 14:31 wizzyrea gaetan_B: I would consider what you propose to be a step in the wrong direction. 14:31 wizzyrea i.e. my librarians would scream 14:31 gaetan_B hmmm 14:31 wizzyrea i'm surprised that you find the villepin doesn't work - 2 and 3 part searching has been working 14:31 gaetan_B but how do they manage with patrons with long/composed names ? 14:32 wizzyrea for example, the test patron I make 14:32 wizzyrea is first name "Henry James" surname "acevedo III" 14:32 gaetan_B in my instance i have "Benjamin LA JOIE" a search for "joie" doesn't bring any result 14:32 gaetan_B (in patrons not in circulation) 14:32 wizzyrea and you are using master? 14:33 * wizzyrea has not observed this 14:33 gaetan_B yes i just updated 14:33 wizzyrea I hope no one broke 3 part name searching. 14:33 wizzyrea that would be not-good 14:33 gaetan_B :-/ 14:35 wizzyrea sec checking 3.6.0 14:36 wizzyrea our librarians don't like the way it works on the "check out" search 14:36 wizzyrea but it doesn't work for finding the last part of a separated surname 14:37 wizzyrea I don't think making it a contains 14:37 wizzyrea is a good idea 14:37 wizzyrea I think we need to fix the real problem 14:37 wizzyrea noise is a real issue when you have lots and lots of patrons 14:37 wizzyrea search *has* to be accurate. 14:37 oleonard Anyone else having problems with Bugzilla? 14:38 wizzyrea yea, I am now 14:38 cait yes it's slow 14:38 cait did you break it? 14:38 wizzyrea but, you see 14:38 wizzyrea wahanui just bounced 14:38 libsysguy seen sekjal 14:38 wizzyrea he's on the same server I think 14:38 wizzyrea so maybe there's something amok with the linode 14:38 wahanui wizzyrea: sorry... 14:38 wahanui sekjal was last seen on #koha 42 minutes and 20 seconds ago, saying: mbalmer: the way the sysprefs got added for 7408 was... problematic [Tue Mar 20 13:56:26 2012] 14:39 oleonard sekjal is in a meeting I think libsysguy, at CIL 14:39 wizzyrea and wahanui is very slow 14:39 * dpavlin tries to hang myself with sub {} within script which breaks pluck scoping.... 14:40 libsysguy gotcha 14:40 * libsysguy will be stalking sekjal for bug 5549 14:41 oleonard huginn, don't hold your breath 14:41 huginn oleonard: I've exhausted my database of quotes 14:41 gaetan_B wizzyrea: i would think we don't need that much precision in check out, since we are scanning patrons barcodes usually, which are unique 14:41 dpavlin paul_p: is https://github.com/PTFS-Europe/koha correct one as opposed to https://github.com/ptfs/Koha-PTFS which is 2 years old? 14:41 paul_p dpavlin nope, ptfs-europe is NOT ptfs 14:41 wizzyrea you'd be amazed at what people find to complain about 14:42 paul_p dpavlin https://github.com/liblime/LibLime-Koha 14:42 oleonard gaetan_B Shouldn't we have consistent search behavior though? 14:42 paul_p grrr... github makes my FF crash 14:42 wizzyrea i agree we should have consistent search behavior 14:42 cait and bugzilla is sleepy 14:42 wizzyrea but changing it to conatins 14:42 gaetan_B wizzyrea: but when looking for someone whose cardnumber we don't have, i assume we might not have accurate information about how the patron has been entered in the database since we don't have his/her card 14:42 cait can't attach my patch 14:43 gaetan_B hence my suggestion ;) 14:43 cait mveron: should we take this into a pm? 14:43 gaetan_B but i agree making it consistent is a bigger priority 14:43 mveron cait: soory, somebody at the door... back in 5 min 14:44 wizzyrea the contains search that is currently in check-out causes complaints here - they don't want the noise 14:45 wizzyrea perhaps 14:45 wizzyrea you could add a checkbox to do a "contains" search 14:45 wizzyrea instead of changing the default behavior 14:45 wizzyrea make it an optional-at-search-time thing 14:45 wizzyrea "advanced search" 14:45 wizzyrea which we've always wanted. 14:45 wizzyrea (in a way that doesn't suck) 14:46 oleonard :D 14:47 sturmtruppen good spring #koha! 14:48 wizzyrea hi sturmtruppen 14:48 sturmtruppen hi wizzyrea 14:48 gaetan_B wizzyrea: i don't really have a definitive opinion on this. I brought this up because i received the opposite complaint regarding patron search. Since a problem exists in both ways of searching, we need to add some kind of option 14:48 gaetan_B but as you say 14:48 gaetan_B in a way that doesn't suck ;) 14:48 wizzyrea hehe 14:48 sekjal libsysguy: working on 5549 currently; slowed by the conference workshop, but I'm on it, and will have a verdict by days end 14:49 wizzyrea yea, make it an optional thing and we'll be good. a "search contains" option would be handy. And fix the other search so it doesn't do that 14:49 gaetan_B also the text above the search field says "Enter patron card number or partial name:" 14:50 * wizzyrea considers 14:50 wizzyrea maybe in this one case, consistency isn't what you want. 14:51 libsysguy thanks sekjal! 14:51 wizzyrea maybe what you want, with the checkout search, is the fastest, dirtiest search you can do 14:51 libsysguy darn conferences :p 14:51 wizzyrea and with the patron search, you want the most refined, exact search you can do 14:51 paul_p dpavlin & hdl = http://modperlbook.org/html/6-2-Exposing-Apache-Registry-Secrets.html 14:51 paul_p it's exactly what we face I think 14:51 wizzyrea i mean... i feel like I'm talking heresy here. 14:52 jcamins wizzyrea: as long as you don't weigh the same as a duck, you probably won't be burned at the stake. 14:53 * wizzyrea is not made of wood 14:53 jcamins :) 14:54 aalhaija Dears, i need to know how can i change the database name on koha using debian OS 14:54 aalhaija ? 14:54 aalhaija :-) 14:54 jcamins The first question? 14:54 cait first question? 14:54 cait omg 14:54 wizzyrea wahanui is sleeping. 14:55 jcamins aalhaija: what are you trying to do? 14:55 aalhaija how can i change the Database name 14:55 wizzyrea remember he's on the same server as bugzilla :/ 14:55 wahanui the first question is "What are you trying to do?" 14:55 wahanui i heard first question was "What are you trying to do?" 14:55 dpavlin paul_p: it seems that liblime opted to use our instead of my for plack, e.g. https://github.com/liblime/LibLime-Koha/commit/39f7fdb79654f3039443a769d979aeed214cac87 14:55 wizzyrea there he is. 14:55 oleonard Ah, the exciting shiver in my spine when opening circulation.tt for editing... 14:56 aalhaija i have a demo database runing on the server for koha but i need to new database to publish as real ???? 14:57 jcamins aalhaija: I'm not sure renaming the database is really a good idea. 14:57 libsysguy ^^ 14:57 aalhaija so what shall i do 14:57 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #664: SUCCESS in 41 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/664/ 14:57 jenkins_koha * adrien.saurat: Bug 7434: Display of issue number for serials in overdues 14:57 jenkins_koha * adrien.saurat: Bug 7086 : "suggested by" fixed for staff members 14:57 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: bug 7086 follow-up: removed warn 14:57 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: bug 7086 follow-up: removed warn 14:57 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 7408 : Fixing a typo that was breaking the installer 14:58 paul_p OK, this time bugzilla is completly down :(((( 14:58 jcamins [off] I'm not sure I'd use LL's Plack code as a basis. I believe they have (or had) some stability problems that require restarting Apache every few days.[5C[5C 14:58 jcamins paul_p: that's because you're fixing too many bugs! :P 14:58 paul_p s/fixing/pushing/ ;-) 14:58 jcamins aalhaija: either create a new database, or use the database with the name it currently has. 14:59 gaetan_B wizzyrea: i'll ask our librarians here, i brought this up after receiving a complaint from one library, and i was not really thinking about the otther side of the problem. If my complaint is isolated, i'd say let's jsut standardize it to "start with" search otherwise let's add an option. But i would be for standardizing. 15:00 wizzyrea okies 15:00 aalhaija do i need to do anything after create new database with the same name ? 15:00 jcamins aalhaija: don't create a new database with the same name. Use a different name. 15:01 aalhaija okay , what next this step? 15:01 jcamins aalhaija: I think you need to explain *exactly* what you want to do. 15:01 jenkins_koha Starting build #665 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 15:01 jcamins Is jenkins on the same server? 15:04 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: welcome gaetan, you're 179th ! <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a8aa3b05e3cf13afc6de1dc63414d9055cfbbbef> / Bug 7731 - Library should be used instead of branch and site <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d500929cfdc653b85325f42a96bc5acc90015515> 15:04 aalhaija i installed koha on debian with empty database and everything is working ,,but now i need to restore database hold hundred of records to the server and connect koha to it 15:05 chris_n mtj: interesting 15:06 jcamins chris_n: I was just telling people it would be much easier for you to do your release maintaining if there weren't so many bugs with a "pushed" status. Don't you think that's true? 15:06 jcamins wizzyrea was wondering how to make your job easier. :) 15:07 paul_p [off] dpavlin I think this one is also related to plack, and another example = https://github.com/liblime/LibLime-Koha/commit/229da30e3d1be09020fe2c4d8e9c514e149b94cf 15:07 cait and there are some nice translation bugs waiting for a sign-off... 15:07 jcamins aalhaija: where did the non-empty database come from? 15:07 paul_p jcamins nope, BibLibre host jenkins, someone else host bugzilla 15:07 chris_n jcamins: being able to parse through bugs based on a reliable status might be nice 15:07 wizzyrea bugzilla is on a linode, it's rangi's 15:08 jcamins paul_p: okay. I was going to say you should pause jenkins if it's on the same server. 15:08 aalhaija durring the installation 15:08 oleonard wizzyrea, working now though 15:08 jcamins aalhaija: where did the empty database come from, then? 15:08 * wizzyrea wonders if there was a hand from above touching it 15:09 aalhaija the empty database i mean that come with the installation 15:09 aalhaija new installation 15:09 jcamins aalhaija: where did the other database come from? 15:10 wizzyrea aalhaija: do you care about what's in the database you currently have? 15:10 aalhaija from old server we have 15:10 aalhaija yes i need all the records 15:11 wizzyrea ok, so this is the database you are going to production with? 15:11 aalhaija yes 15:11 wizzyrea and you want to change the name because it says koha-test or somesuch? 15:11 aalhaija yes exactly 15:12 wizzyrea ok, here's the deal - the name is pretty much arbitrary. The user never sees it. 15:13 wizzyrea what you probably want to do 15:13 wizzyrea is take a complete dump of the database 15:13 wizzyrea back up koha? 15:13 wahanui rumour has it back up koha is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Backing_up_Koha 15:13 wizzyrea ^^ 15:13 wizzyrea like this 15:13 wizzyrea create a new database with your required name 15:13 wizzyrea import your backup into that new database 15:14 wizzyrea then edit your koha-conf.xml to reflect the new name 15:14 wizzyrea and you should be set. 15:14 wizzyrea then, you can drop the koha-test db once you feel comfortable that your new db is working as you expect 15:14 aalhaija you means that we will import the records to the new database 15:15 jcamins aalhaija: how did you install Koha? Did you use packages? 15:15 aalhaija yes 15:15 wizzyrea then you should use the package tools. 15:15 wizzyrea packages? 15:15 wahanui package info is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.4_on_Debian_Squeeze 15:15 wizzyrea package commands? 15:15 jcamins This makes it very easy. 15:15 wizzyrea package tools? 15:15 * wizzyrea will add that 15:16 wizzyrea package tools can be found at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Commands_provided_by_the_Debian_packages 15:16 jcamins koha-create almiktabah 15:16 wizzyrea package tools is <reply> package tools can be found at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Commands_provided_by_the_Debian_packages 15:17 aalhaija very nice 15:17 jcamins Then you need to restore from the dump into that database. 15:17 wizzyrea what about koha-restore 15:17 jcamins Also, I don't recommend really using almiktabah as the name. 15:17 jcamins aalhaija: did you use the packages on your old server, too? 15:18 aalhaija no actully 15:18 jcamins wizzyrea: you can't use koha-restore with a raw database dump. 15:19 wizzyrea right - my understanding was that this data came from an old server, and was imported into a package install 15:19 wizzyrea so he could do koha-run-backups then koha-restore 15:19 wizzyrea but that could be wrong. 15:19 jcamins wizzyrea: it hasn't made it into the package install yet, I think. 15:19 wizzyrea ah then it's moot 15:20 aalhaija i new with koha administration and new in linux 15:20 aalhaija i am trying from 3 days to resotre the database was on old server to the new server 15:21 aalhaija koha as web is working but no data retrive when we try to search for any title 15:21 jcamins search faq? 15:21 wahanui it has been said that search faq is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/searching/ 15:21 jcamins ^^ you might want to read that. 15:22 wizzyrea specifically http://koha-community.org/faq/zebra-indexing-wont-work-fix-it-aka-search-stuff-up-help/ 15:22 mtj [off] chris_n: i sometimes wonder if those 13 waldo colleges are even aware, after 5 years, there is still *no* available LLEK code 15:23 alex_a dpavlin: http://search.cpan.org/~miyagawa/Plack-0.9986/lib/Plack/App/CGIBin.pm 15:23 aalhaija many thanks 15:23 jcamins [off] mtj: I should ask. 15:24 aalhaija many thanks 15:24 cait [off] good queston 15:33 mtj jcamins: i guess liblime assume (correctly?) that most people see the LLK github repo, and assume that its LLEK too :/ 15:37 jcamins [off] I think they (probably correctly) assume that most people can't be bothered to check. 15:37 chris_n [off] mtj: that is at least plausible 15:42 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #665: SUCCESS in 41 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/665/ 15:42 jenkins_koha * gaetan.boisson: Bug 7731 - Library should be used instead of branch and site 15:42 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: welcome gaetan, you're 179th ! 15:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7731 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , Library should be used instead of branch and site 15:47 magnuse woohoo for gaetan_B! 15:48 gaetan_B :-) 15:48 jcamins gaetan_B: congratulations! 15:49 jcamins paul_p_: do you think we'll have reached 200 before KohaCon? 15:49 paul_p_ jcamins I don't think so. 22 new commiters is really big ! 15:49 wizzyrea we've put on... how many already this year? 15:49 paul_p_ gaetan_B++ (also because it's a huge patch) 15:49 jcamins paul_p_: then maybe Shari will be able to be a 1xx committer. :) 15:51 sturmtruppen a little question... 15:51 magnuse furst new committer in 2012 was number 168 15:52 sturmtruppen i have all the UNIMARC data in a txt file 15:52 wizzyrea so 11 15:52 sturmtruppen how can i import in koha automatically? 15:52 wizzyrea 20 might be a stretch. 15:53 magnuse i have a small hope of doing a "hacking koha" workshop before the summer, where everyone gets to do a new framework for normarc as an exercise - but that might not happen... 15:53 magnuse would maybe be ~5 people 15:53 paul_p ok, i'm paul_p ;-) 15:53 cait ok 15:53 magnuse nice to meet you, paul_p :-) 15:54 cait who wants a colorful shiny staff interface? 15:54 paul_p cait me me !!! some chocolate if you submit one before the end of the week ! 15:54 libsysguy me me cait 15:54 sturmtruppen me me too! 15:54 * libsysguy likes the shiny things 15:55 cait lol 15:55 libsysguy btw bug 5339 is looking good 15:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5339 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , Parcel closing in acq 15:55 cait first steps... 7760 15:55 cait oh 15:55 paul_p hi melia ! 15:55 sekjal cait: I've had librarians complain about how stark and bright the staff client is with it's default CSS 15:55 melia good morning 15:55 cait http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7760 15:55 huginn 04Bug 7760: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , Add ids and classes to every staff page to help with customizaton 15:55 reiveune mbalmer: ping 15:55 cait we have a bug going 15:55 cait to add a unique id and a class for the module to every page 15:55 libsysguy yeah bug 7760 would be crucial 15:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7760 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , Add ids and classes to every staff page to help with customizaton 15:56 jcamins sturmtruppen: what do you mean, import in Koha automatically? 15:56 cait ok 15:56 cait so I need sign-offers! 15:57 sekjal further incentive: template-based patches are easy to QA once signed off 15:57 sturmtruppen import in the database of koha 15:57 wizzyrea yes, I would like to make the administration pages red, the circ pages a soothing blue... 15:57 cait and I am going to tackle the authority module next 15:57 magnuse cait++ 15:58 libsysguy cait++ 15:58 sturmtruppen jcamins: import in the database of koha 15:58 cait really easy to do 15:58 cait but it would be cool if it could go in fast 15:58 jcamins sturmtruppen: what do you mean, import automatically? 15:58 sturmtruppen by a script, without click "save" every book 15:59 sturmtruppen *books 15:59 libsysguy bug 5339 is also looking for a second sign off :) 15:59 jcamins sturmtruppen: ah, there is no functionality for that. 16:00 mbalmer 17:00. enough is enough ;) 16:00 rangi fyi it was some bots a tweetmemebot, and a couple of others 16:00 rangi 89.151.116.53 - - [20/Mar/2012:14:30:13 +0000] "GET /bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7300 HTTP/1.1" 200 35416 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; TweetmemeBot/2.11; +http://tweetmeme.com/)" 16:00 rangi 184.169.243.56 - - [20/Mar/2012:14:30:14 +0000] "HEAD /bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7300 HTTP/1.1" 200 295 "-" "UnwindFetchor/1.0 (+http://www.gnip.com/)" 16:00 sturmtruppen jcamins: i think it is possible, i have only to figure out how... 16:01 rangi just eating up all available connections 16:01 rangi going back to sleep now 16:01 wizzyrea thanks rangi 16:01 jcamins sturmtruppen: you can write your own script, but there is no feature to do that in Koha. 16:02 sturmtruppen jcamins: i know that, i would know i someone has already done that or where i can found the scheme for a right filling... 16:03 jcamins sturmtruppen: ah, a couple of people have written scripts, including, I think, druthb in her koha-migration-toolbox repo, but documentation is a bit scarce, and I don't have any details. 16:05 sturmtruppen jcamins: ok, thanks, i will try... 16:08 sturmtruppen i have to make a script in perl? oh my gosh... 16:08 jcamins sturmtruppen: yup. 16:09 sekjal okay, lunch time. Room is insecure, so I'll vanish for a bit while I go eat 16:10 cait bye sekjal 16:10 cait :) 16:10 sekjal still working on bug 5549, will hopefully have feedback soon 16:10 sekjal I did see it fail QA from Hackfest Testing 16:10 reiveune bye 16:10 sekjal but I want to be sure all the issues I found are now addressed, and we're down to just fixing a few last things 16:10 libsysguy sekjal im wondering if that is because he's running a sandbox 16:10 libsysguy im looking at the issues he saw 16:10 sekjal thanks, libsysguy 16:11 sekjal brb 16:11 * oleonard will submit a signoff for Bug 7760 as soon as Bugzilla wakes up 16:11 libsysguy no worries 16:11 libsysguy I want this in lol 16:11 libsysguy im tired of dealing with it and not being able to run the latest code in prod :p 16:15 jcamins cait: we should have classes on the body tags in the OPAC, too... we don't yet, do we? 16:15 oleonard jcamins, I think we do 16:15 oleonard Well, unique ids 16:15 oleonard The idea of the classes in the staff client is to be able to give a common style to "modules" 16:16 jcamins oleonard: we do have ids? Good! I think we may have missed one or two, on the cart or the like. 16:17 jcamins I'll report a bug when I remember which page I was annoyed about not having any way to identify. 16:20 cait jcamins: we have id's on many pages in opac, not on the body tag i think 16:20 cait I mean on other high hiearchy tags, but not on body perhaps 16:21 cait ah... I should scroll 16:21 jcamins cait: there was one page that I couldn't find a way to address directly, so I worked around it, and thought "gee, we should have ids or classes." 16:22 oleonard jcamins, The only example I see is a template we don't use, opac-userdetails 16:28 jcamins oleonard: if I come across it again, I'll report it. 16:28 * oleonard dares you 16:32 sekjal libsysguy: I've done a diff between the version of 5549 from yesterday, and rangi's rebase (both rebased on master).... scanning through that now. since it fixes the .po issue, there is A LOT of mindless scrolling to do 16:32 sekjal that's what's taking the time 16:33 libsysguy heh 16:33 libsysguy yeah I think he removed some of the patches I tried merging in 16:34 libsysguy sekjal im a little confused about what to do with the latest Failed QA from hackfest…I can't reproduce the error, and the "lacking" section i think should wait 16:34 libsysguy what are your thoughts 16:35 sekjal if you can't reproduce the error, note it on the bug report. I'll try to get it, as well. it may be that if they're using the sandbox, they don't have all the necessary DB updates 16:35 sekjal as for "lacking", well, that sounds like followup stuff 16:35 wizzyrea scope_creep-- 16:35 sekjal let's get all this in place first, then work on enhancing it 16:36 libsysguy ok I'll make a note, should I reflag it as signed off or leave it failed 16:36 * libsysguy is still a little green 16:36 sekjal libsysguy: it doesn't matter the flag right now, since it's going through so much active testing 16:36 libsysguy ok cool 16:36 libsysguy thanks sekjal 16:36 sekjal np, libsysguy 16:36 sekjal we're almost there! 16:37 libsysguy just keep trucking :p 16:37 wizzyrea libsysguy, which iw the "latest fail qa" 16:37 wizzyrea is* 16:38 libsysguy comment 49 16:38 libsysguy bug 5549 16:38 wahanui bug 5549 is your white whale 16:38 wizzyrea what bug 16:38 wahanui bug is always bad news, particularly if you haven't filed it yet. 16:38 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5549 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, chris, Failed QA , Hourly Loans 16:58 oleonard Bye #koha 16:59 Oak hello cait 16:59 Oak kia ora #koha 16:59 cait hello Oak 16:59 cait Oak, could it be that today is a special day? 16:59 Oak back home? 16:59 Oak nope 16:59 cait hmm 16:59 jcamins cait: I already asked. Tomorrow is. 16:59 cait perhaps I messed up my calendar then 16:59 cait oh 16:59 * cait goes to correct her calendar 16:59 Oak :) 17:00 cait oh 17:00 cait it's me 17:00 cait the calendar is right 17:00 cait I confused dates :P 17:01 Oak crap, i was busy in exams and i missed your birthday... 17:01 Oak cait :-( 17:02 Oak had a paper on 1st march, and another one on 3rd march. but no way to remind me... 17:03 Oak but i don't think i'll forget next time. 17:05 cait that's ok :) 17:05 cait don't worry about it 17:07 jcamins Morning, rangi. 17:08 Oak jcamins, did you wish cait on her birthday? 17:08 Oak i hope i'm the only one who forgot. 17:09 gaetan_B bye ! 17:11 jcamins Oak: I did, yes. It was in the topic. 17:11 sekjal libsysguy: finally figured out how to jump to the end of the git diff output 17:11 Oak oh good. 17:11 jcamins Oh, there's an IRC meeting tomorrow. 17:11 sekjal from my analysis of the code, we're in very good shape on bug 5549 17:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5549 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, chris, Failed QA , Hourly Loans 17:12 sekjal just a little work left to be done on how to get the database updates deployed, which is largely up to paul_p. 17:12 sekjal and I want to throw some time at confirming/denying the issues that were found by the hackfesters 17:12 Oak me go now. see you guys on 22nd March. night. 17:16 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7735: removal of C4::Dates when unused <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d266ccb81f7fa64d9a12ff20ca5b4e9388c3302c> / Bug 6025: Adds a script that re-create missing statistics from issues and old_issues... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d91bb113f04149c020c851a904de69619b6e9dd8> / Bug 7600: Return a single-pixel GIF when no local cover image exists <http://g 17:16 jenkins_koha Starting build #666 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 17:31 magnuse 666, eh? 17:34 gmcharlt @quote random 17:34 huginn gmcharlt: Quote #15: "<|Lupin|>ricardo: you are like the Portuguese Hitchcock!!" (added by wizzyrea at 02:58 PM, July 10, 2009) 17:36 * slef does more kohacon admin 17:38 magnuse slef++ 17:38 * magnuse does dinner 17:40 jcamins Heh. The only one I did not test on that list is bug 7144. 17:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7144 enhancement, P3, ---, srdjan, Passed QA , Floating collection 17:41 * jcamins is looking forward to sign off statistics for March. 17:42 mveron Bon appetit #koha Marseille! 17:43 * sekjal has his work cut out for him.... 15 new bugs in the QAQ 17:44 clrh mveron: thanks :) 17:51 clrh ++ 17:56 libsysguy sekjal any luck with reproducing the hackfest bugs? 17:56 libsysguy im about to start testing with odd circ rules 17:56 libsysguy I couldn't reproduce with the ones I had 17:56 sekjal libsysguy: haven't had a chance yet; preconf session has picked back up 17:56 slef magnus_afk: 'ere, I want a word with you! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfdGV7uznfM ;-) 17:56 libsysguy gotcha 17:57 sekjal may have sometime at the coffee break; otherwise, will need to wait until 4:30p Eastern 17:57 libsysguy understood…I'll continue my testing and post the results 17:57 sekjal awesome 17:57 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #666: SUCCESS in 41 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/666/ 17:57 jenkins_koha * srdjan: Bug 7235: Adding invoice number and vendor name to the moredetail page 17:57 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7235: Add order date and checks for permissions 17:57 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 7235 follow-up: removing some upper cases 17:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7235 enhancement, P3, ---, srdjan, Pushed to Master , Adding invoice number and vendor name to the moredetail page 17:57 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: Bug 7166: Adds edit order notes when the basket is closed 17:57 jenkins_koha * koha.sekjal: Bug 7697: Remove unused textmessaging parameter from OPAC main/user 17:57 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 7600: Return a single-pixel GIF when no local cover image exists 17:57 jenkins_koha * matthias.meusburger: Bug 6025: Adds a script that re-create missing statistics from issues and old_issues tables 17:57 jenkins_koha * adrien.saurat: Bug 7735: removal of C4::Dates when unused 17:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7166 enhancement, P3, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Modify order notes when basket is closed 17:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7697 trivial, P5 - low, ---, koha.sekjal, Pushed to Master , Clean up borrower.textmessaging leftover code 17:57 * sekjal preps the blubber room for 5549 17:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7600 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Have book cover image script return single-pixel gif data 17:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6025 enhancement, P3, ---, matthias.meusburger, Pushed to Master , Script to recreate entries in the statistics table from the issues and oldissues table 17:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7735 trivial, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Pushed to Master , Removal of C4::Dates where it's not used anymore 17:58 libsysguy the blubber room? 17:59 sekjal the place on old ships where whales were... rendered 17:59 slef magnus_afk: (seriously, let me know when you return...) 17:59 libsysguy hehe 17:59 * jcamins thought you meant there was going to be a lot of crying. 18:00 libsysguy thats what im doing :p 18:34 rangi Morning 18:36 sekjal morning, rangi 18:45 wizzyrea hi there rangi 18:46 wizzyrea paul_p: i'm decently confident about 7144 18:47 wizzyrea bug 5549 18:47 wahanui it has been said that bug 5549 is libsysguy's white whale 18:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5549 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, chris, Failed QA , Hourly Loans 19:12 rangi ah ha 19:12 rangi everytime the kohagbsd twitter accounts tweets a bunch of bots all hit whatever bug it was talking about 19:12 wizzyrea ewwww 19:13 rangi and because there was a big flurry, it was big enough to max out connections for a little while 19:13 rangi mystery solved 19:20 ibeardslee ahh the joy of bots eh? 19:20 rangi yup 19:22 ibeardslee just need to get some google ads on those pages then? 19:23 rangi heh 19:29 rangi sekjal: want me to fix and push the follow up to the branch? 19:30 sekjal rangi: that's be great 19:30 rangi righto will do 19:30 sekjal s/that's/that'd/ 19:31 libsysguy it looks like in C4::Calendar it was called daysBetween 19:31 libsysguy and changed in the new namespac 19:31 sekjal yup 19:31 rangi yep fixing now 19:31 sekjal and days_between is already used in C4/Overdues.pm 19:32 libsysguy *smh* don't know how i missed that 19:32 * libsysguy would be a terrible tester 19:32 sekjal this should be the only issue with it, according to my grep 19:34 rangi fix pushed 19:35 sekjal awesome 19:35 sekjal will test other issues once I'm out of this preconf session 19:35 rangi thanks 19:35 rangi whats the session? 19:36 sekjal usability and user experience 19:36 sekjal at Computers in Libraries 19:36 rangi ajj 19:36 rangi ahh even 19:39 sjeffery I am writing up a rfp for development work and want to be sure that the vendor is required to put the code into the main codebase. Not knowing the development termonology, what am I looking for? They need to pass QA? 19:40 rangi You want the code pushed to the master branch of the official Koha git repository (git.koha-community.org) 19:40 sekjal sjeffery: the specification as well as the code need to be open and available. 19:40 rangi in order to get there, it needs to pass sign off, and qa 19:40 rangi as well as the release manager 19:41 sekjal a bug report must be filed for the enhancement, and a wiki page should probably be added if it's sizeable 19:41 rangi *nod* 19:41 magnus_afk slef: still around? 19:41 sjeffery Oh yeah, it is going to be sizable:) 19:41 wizzyrea dare we ask what it is? 19:41 libsysguy maybe make it break up into smaller patches? 19:41 rangi sjeffery: ideally they would develop in the open with a publicly viewable git repo 19:41 magnus_afk rangi: just say if i should turn kohagbsd off 19:41 rangi magnus_afk: all good 19:41 rangi ive rate limited the bots 19:42 libsysguy otherwise it could be doomed to the same fate as hourly 19:42 wizzyrea yea, smaller is better. 19:42 wizzyrea incremental improvement. 19:42 wizzyrea sometimes you have to take one big step before you can do the improvements though. 19:42 wizzyrea like acquisitions. 19:42 sjeffery The first project is to change around authorities, add support for heirarchies, new interfaces, etc. Second project is completely rewriting series receiving and display. Third project is more support for analytics:) 19:43 wizzyrea you should talk to jcamins. 19:43 wizzyrea he's doing a lot of work in that area already 19:43 sjeffery I know, we have been chatting about the analytics for a long time 19:43 wizzyrea cool 19:43 wizzyrea just making sure ;) 19:43 rangi but yeah publish early publish often 19:43 magnus_afk +1 19:44 rangi helps others test/spot things .. which will make qa so much easier down the road 19:44 wizzyrea ^^ 19:44 sjeffery Actually, the hope is to do the development very rapidly (in a few week time period), so it will be more likely to sorta just show up 19:44 rangi if they are using git, theres no reason not to have the repo public 19:45 rangi eg 19:45 sjeffery hmm, yeah, good point 19:45 rangi http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?p=koha.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/bug_7613_wr89060 19:45 rangi you can always see what catalyst is working on, by checking hte repo 19:46 sjeffery ps-writing rfp's is horrific 19:46 rangi answering them is worse :) 19:47 sjeffery lol yeah, I will give you that 19:52 magnus_afk @later tell slef: see you tomorrow! 19:52 huginn magnus_afk: The operation succeeded. 19:52 magnus_afk have fun #koha! 20:10 jcamins_away n/nick jcamins 20:10 jcamins Did someone say authorities? :D 20:10 jcamins And... analytics? :D :D 20:10 sjeffery not me! 20:10 jcamins Bwahahaha! :) 20:10 sjeffery And 12 other things if I can get them approved! 20:11 * jcamins is happy to see authorities and analytics on the list. 20:33 cait hi #koha 20:33 jcamins Hi cait. 20:34 cait hi jcamins :) 20:35 rangi hi cait and hdl 20:35 cait hi rangi :) 20:41 wizzyrea hi cait :) 20:42 rangi hey oleonard 20:42 wahanui well, oleonard is the master UI designer of koha or an awesome bug wrangler 20:42 oleonard Hi 20:42 cait hi owen :) 20:42 cait hi liz :) 20:43 oleonard cait, I'm back from dinner so early I hardly know what to do with my time! 20:43 cait you don't really want me to make suggestions? :) 20:43 cait fix the german translation file for 3.6.3? ;) 20:43 oleonard I think you'd be unhappy with any of my solutions 20:44 rangi das ist verboten! 20:44 eythian_bucklame oleonard only know German swear words. 20:44 eythian_bucklame +s 20:44 sjeffery Well if we removed translations, that would make the code simpler:) 20:44 oleonard ...and only ones which were in Raiders of the Lost Ark 20:44 * wizzyrea gives sjeffery the eye. You know the one. 20:44 wizzyrea if we removed the translations, we'd be ptfs. 20:45 wizzyrea oh sorry, they do have es I guess. 20:45 rangi if the queens english was good enough for jesus christ, it's good enough for me 20:45 * wizzyrea does a double take 20:45 rangi hehe 20:46 rangi its based on a quote by miriam a. ferguson 20:46 rangi https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Miriam_A._Ferguson 20:46 cait so noone is going to fix it for me? :( 20:47 cait *sigh* 20:47 cait okok 20:47 cait I will do it 20:47 jcamins cait: Shouldn't it be das verboten ist? 20:47 wizzyrea oh my 20:47 rangi and a nz band made a song about it 20:47 cait nope 20:47 sekjal okay, preconf done. going to migrate to another wifi hotspot 20:47 cait rangi did it perfectly 20:47 rangi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kIFTHoc-H0 20:47 sjeffery Am I the only one that ever changes the language of Koha on the front-end thinking that it changes the language of the displayed record? 20:47 cait verboten is an adjective 20:48 cait so it is prohibited 20:48 wizzyrea surely not 20:48 rangi cait: das ist gut, ja? 20:48 cait sehr gut 20:48 jcamins cait: ah. But if it were a noun, "ist" would have been at the end? 20:48 cait hm no 20:49 slef @later tell magnus_away here, I want a word with you! 20:49 huginn slef: The operation succeeded. 20:49 cait oh wow 20:49 cait that sounds... threatening 20:49 jcamins It sure does! 20:49 * cait offers slef some cocolateless sweets 20:49 slef did you miss the link earlier? 20:49 cait we just came back from dinner 20:49 slef http://youtube.com/watch?v=vfdGV7uznfM about 1m20 in 20:50 jcamins Oh no! Did slef give up chocolate for Lent? 20:53 slef jcamins: no, cocoa solids just don't like me much. 20:54 jcamins slef: oh no! That's even worse! 20:56 cait it is 21:41 oleonard Okay, some messaging with home and a tiny bit of work and now I'm ready for bed. 21:41 oleonard Good night #koha 21:44 cait he is still too fast for me... 21:44 cait night #koha :) 21:52 libsysguy ack new hourly bug 21:52 rangi yep looking into it now 21:52 libsysguy I feel like i've seen this one before 21:52 sekjal rangi: the checkin seems to go through 21:52 sekjal it just throws up the error 21:52 rangi right 21:52 libsysguy i've definitely seen this one before then 21:52 sekjal I can't reproduce the renewals bug 21:53 sekjal renewals work just fine for me 21:53 rangi yeah i couldnt either 21:53 sekjal maybe they're specifying the date? 21:53 sekjal that doesn't sound like what they're noting, though 21:53 libsysguy rangi are you working on it directly in the pull repo? 21:53 rangi no, on my desktop 21:54 rangi but i push the fixes to merged_5549 21:54 libsysguy ok im going to do a pull just to get the changes you've made 21:54 rangi cool, merged_5549 eh? 21:54 libsysguy i believe so 21:55 rangi ahh those are C4/Date objects not DateTime ones 21:55 rangi hence the no truncate 21:56 * rangi finds the call to days_between 21:57 libsysguy rangi++ 22:01 mveron good night #koha 22:04 rangi ah yes 22:04 rangi my $datedue = dt_from_string( $overdue->{date_due} ); 22:04 rangi is how we do it for fines 22:04 rangi fines.pl 22:04 rangi but when leveling the fine on return 22:05 rangi we are still use C4::Dates->new 22:05 * rangi will fix 22:05 sekjal rangi: is this _FixOverduesOnReturn? 22:05 rangi and this solves their finedays bug 22:05 rangi _FixFineDaysOnReturn 22:05 sekjal right 22:05 sekjal just noting that... if my comment would ever SAVE 22:07 rangi yeah bots again 22:08 sekjal I wish Hourly Loans has been implemented the way I noted in the spec... with a single unit of minutes, instead of splitting it out into a separate column 22:08 libsysguy well maybe it can be fixed? 22:08 sekjal would make the suspension in (unit of time) a little more flexible 22:09 libsysguy *not now* 22:09 sekjal libsysguy: I'm not sure my way of doing it is actually any better 22:09 sekjal and I think what I'm really unhappy about is the circ matrix 22:09 sekjal that needs a new basis STAT 22:09 libsysguy oh the smart rules 22:09 sekjal I've been meaning to write one 22:09 libsysguy agreed, that thing is out of control 22:10 rangi fixed bug 22:10 rangi pushing now 22:10 sekjal thanks, rangi! 22:10 sekjal rangi++ 22:11 libsysguy rangi++ sekjal++ 22:13 sekjal 23 bugs in my QAQ, not including 5549. but if we can put that one to bed, I'll consider the night a resounding success 22:13 rangi yep! 22:25 sekjal looks like our JS Calendar has a showsTime option which will include the times along with the date... could be handy to implement for renewals, hardduedates, etc 22:28 libsysguy ^^ 22:28 sekjal as it stands, if you specify the renewal due date, it renews to 00:00 that day 22:28 libsysguy well that is no good 22:28 rangi yep, that could be a nice follow enh 22:29 sekjal there'll be plenty of extra work we can do on this, once the core functionality is in place 22:29 libsysguy but i agree with rangi, there are a treasure trove of follow up enhancements that need to go with hourly 22:29 sekjal ^^ 22:29 rangi *nod* 22:29 libsysguy ^^ 22:29 sekjal lol 22:29 libsysguy im glad we are all on the same page :p 22:29 rangi bugs should hopefully be more responsive now 22:30 sekjal I'm seeing much better behaviour, yes 22:30 rangi i might have to kick in some more money and get more ram for my linode 22:33 libsysguy you could move it to aws :p 22:33 rangi like hell :) 22:34 rangi amazon gets none of my money 22:34 libsysguy I only have the free account with them 22:34 libsysguy when that is up ill move elsewhere 22:35 rangi linode are good, solid 22:35 libsysguy i feel like aws gives me a lot of options…to rip myself off 22:35 rangi yup 22:36 rangi cloud = someone elses computer 22:36 rangi im old and crusty, but i still prefer an vps 22:37 * libsysguy pictures rangi looking like gandolf the grey 22:37 rangi heh 22:37 rangi with a bird on his head 22:37 libsysguy heh 22:37 sekjal hmmm.... we're going to have to update KohaDates to handle timestamps 22:37 rangi http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Chris_Cormack 22:38 rangi it doesnt do a lot 22:38 rangi updating the modules it calls is probably the best bet 22:38 rangi ie it just calls format_date 22:38 sekjal I can see 5549 and 7444 colliding 22:39 rangi its a sum total of 31 lines 22:39 rangi of which only 10 do anything :) 22:39 rangi sub filter { my ($self,$text) = @_; my $date = C4::Dates->new( $text, 'iso' ); 22:39 rangi return $date->output("sspref"); 22:39 rangi } 22:39 sekjal shouldn't be hard to do, then 22:39 sekjal another opportunity for after Hourly Loans is merged 22:39 rangi fixing $date->output 22:39 rangi is the best option 22:40 rangi or killing C4/Dates totally 22:40 rangi but we dont want KohaDates doing something different to the places we havent fixed yet 22:40 rangi so the fix needs to be lower 22:40 rangi if that makes sense 22:40 sekjal yes 22:41 sekjal was just looking at bug 7748 22:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7748 trivial, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Signed Off , Date not formatted on "Add orders from iso2709 file" page 22:41 rangi ah yep 22:43 sekjal so, I think we're okay on 5549, right? bugs are fixed, just need feedback on the renewals issues the hackfest testers found 22:43 rangi i think so yeah 22:43 rangi its only the renewal one 22:43 rangi @quote random 22:43 huginn rangi: Quote #152: "gmcharlt: Koha: unifying the world one library at a time" (added by wizzyrea at 02:19 PM, September 13, 2011) 22:43 rangi @quote random 22:43 huginn rangi: Quote #30: "< pianohacker> Dealing with me can indeed be painful" (added by chris at 09:34 PM, September 02, 2009) 22:45 sekjal need to figure out the plan for updating the database (databaseupdate.pl v. atomicupdate), and deal with rollingloans.t, but I don't think there are any other technical problems identified 22:45 rangi i think we might jsut have to pull the test 22:45 rangi while having sample circ rules and biblios and items would be great for all manner of tests 22:45 rangi im not sure we can get that done before freeze 22:45 rangi and it is the test that is failing not the code 22:46 sekjal no, building a solid test DB is no small feat 22:46 sekjal and right, it's just a faulty test 22:46 sekjal so we pull it, and rebuild it later in t/db_dependent 22:46 rangi yep its in there now 22:46 sekjal Circulation needs a more robust test suite, anyway 22:46 rangi but just cant work without a populated db 22:47 rangi and/or 22:47 rangi some kinda TAP thing 22:47 sekjal we don't have one mostly because of @quote 123 issues 22:47 rangi http://theory.github.com/mytap/ 22:47 rangi or pgtap 22:47 rangi et al 22:48 rangi Test::MockDBI 22:49 rangi theres a lot of weird and wonderful ways to do testing :) 22:50 sekjal well, in that case, I think it's reasonable to update the status of bug 5549 22:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5549 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, chris, Failed QA , Hourly Loans 22:50 rangi yay! 22:50 libsysguy yayy 22:51 sekjal well done libsysguy and rangi. 22:51 sekjal libsysguy++ 22:51 sekjal rangi++ 22:51 libsysguy rangi++ sekjal++ 22:52 libsysguy seriously thanks for the support on this on 22:52 libsysguy definitely couldn't have done it on my own 22:52 sekjal a wonderful example of international, multi-organization cooperation 22:52 rangi *nod* 22:52 libsysguy indeed 22:52 bag YAY 22:53 sekjal our work isn't done, of course, but we're in a much better position now than we were before 22:53 * libsysguy plots how to get his prod server back up to master 22:54 libsysguy then what new features to add to hourly core 22:54 libsysguy food time 23:20 rangi @quote random 23:20 huginn rangi: Quote #56: "* jdavidb makes sure no kitty carcasses are among the dead bugs." (added by gmcharlt at 01:34 PM, February 11, 2010) 23:24 sekjal night, #koha! time for some food, drink and relaxin' 23:51 rangi slef++ 23:52 slef !?!? 23:52 slef yes, I'm still writing kohacon emails 23:52 slef I am already asleep though 23:52 rangi yeah saw the wiki edit :) 23:55 slef eythian is stuck in backland? 23:55 ibeardslee bucklame 23:56 slef depends on the phone ;) 23:57 ibeardslee true 23:59 * rangi makes an edit