Time Nick Message 01:18 mtj by proxy++ 01:18 mtj @karma by proxy 01:18 huginn mtj: by proxy has neutral karma. 01:19 mtj meh.. :) 02:36 * wizzyrea waves 03:31 druthb o/ 04:30 bag heya druthb 04:32 druthb hi, bag! BEST BOSS EVAR 05:39 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7557 follow-up: DBRev number and removed default value <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=533ecd9392fe3ea937641283d2c494af484db0f4> / Bug 7557: Change hardcoded routing list note into a system preference <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b9abfee3ab169ebdf7275dc1b782201ac0a6287f> / Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_6875' <http://git.koha-community.or 05:46 jenkins_koha Starting build #656 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #644 7 j 13 h ago) 05:50 cait morning #koha 05:50 Judit1 good evevning :) 05:53 cait hi Judit1 :) 05:55 Judit1 i am just off from work 05:56 Judit1 and it is nice an dsuny out there 05:56 Judit1 cycling time 05:56 cait :) 05:56 cait have fun 05:56 Judit1 i iwll :) 06:16 sturmtruppen morning #koha 06:26 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #656: STILL UNSTABLE in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/656/ 06:26 jenkins_koha * stephane.delaune: Bug 5749 Fix borrower address display in intranet 06:26 jenkins_koha * koha.sekjal: Bug 6875 Followup: De-nesting C4::Items breaks bulkmarcimport 06:26 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7557: Change hardcoded routing list note into a system preference 06:26 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 7557 follow-up: DBRev number and removed default value 06:26 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5749 normal, P4, ---, stephane.delaune, Pushed to Master , The display of borrower adresses composed of streetnumber, streettype and address is broken 06:26 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6875 blocker, P1 - high, ---, paul.poulain, Signed Off , de-nesting C4 packages 06:26 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7557 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Change hardcoded routing list note into a system preference 07:12 francharb hello 07:12 sturmtruppen hi francharb 07:32 alex_a1 hello 07:38 marcelr hi koha 07:41 reiveune hello 08:18 clrh hello all 08:40 kf hi #koha 08:42 asaurat hi kf! 08:48 kf hi asaurat :) 08:54 kf soon! 09:01 asaurat yep :) 09:06 mle ! 09:32 clrh do you know a known hashtag for hackfest? #hackfest12 ? 09:38 mtj #KohaHackfest12 ? 09:39 clrh mtj: il is long no? 09:39 clrh but maybe the good answer :) 09:39 clrh #khf12? :) 09:39 mtj aaah, i didnt know what the char limit was :) 09:40 clrh it is for twitter for example 09:42 mtj aaah, so what is the chat limit for #hashtags on twitter ? 09:42 mtj s/chat/cha r/ :) 09:42 clrh there is no char limits for a hashtag but for a message ;) that is 140chars 09:42 clrh I propose #kohahf12 09:43 clrh simple short avec with koha inside ;) 09:43 clrh (thanks hdl) 09:45 mtj or #kohahack12 ? 09:47 mtj the average person does not easily know what 'hf' is 09:48 slef #kohahack12 seems good, can be reused multiple times through the year 09:49 mtj yeah, what slef said :p 09:50 clrh ok mrj slef 09:52 * kf practices 09:52 kf #kohahack12 09:54 slef BBC subtitles used to use # to signify someone singing. Still cracks me up when I read hashtags. I imagine them sung. 09:55 clrh kf: I send my first tweet with #kohahack12 thanks for help :) 09:55 kf clrh: not sure I really helped- only memorizing to use later :) 09:55 kf slef++ :) 10:48 magnuse kia ora #koha! 10:48 kf kia ora magnuse 11:00 Amit_Gupta heya magnuse 11:00 Amit_Gupta heya gaetan_B 11:00 magnuse namaste Amit_Gupta 11:12 kf hi paul_p_android 11:13 paul_p_android hi kf 12:42 oleonard Hi #koha 12:48 utente_ hi 12:48 wahanui hello, utente_ 13:38 clrh does someone use "scheduler.pl" ? 13:38 clrh (just to now) 13:41 jcamins_away clrh: I don't think it works. 13:42 clrh actually it can't work 13:43 kf I think it's a permission problem 13:43 kf and if you give it the needed permissions, it's a security problem 13:43 kf I remember something like that 13:54 jwagner clrh, it has been a problem since 2008 -- see Bug 1993 13:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1993 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Task Scheduler Needs Re-write 14:02 slef handbasket is <reply> where are we going? And what am I doing in this handbasket? 14:02 slef wahanui: handbasket is <reply> where are we going? And what am I doing in this handbasket? 14:03 wahanui slef: bugger all, i dunno 14:03 slef wahanui: ? 14:03 wahanui slef: wish i knew 14:05 kf handbasket? 14:05 wahanui where are we going? And what am I doing in this handbasket? 14:10 clrh jwagner: "needs rewrite"... yep ok 15:30 kf bye all :) 15:47 oleonard I'm curious if others have opinions they could share about Bug 7720 15:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7720 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Ambiguity in OPAC Details location. 15:53 morthland Where would I input a subtitle when cataloging old books? 15:59 jcamins_away morthland: 245$b for MARC21 16:01 morthland it doesn't show up in OPAC 16:01 morthland I am runnning 3.0 16:04 jcamins_away morthland: Don't use 3.0. Use one of the maintained versions. I'd recommend 3.6.4. 16:05 jcamins_away morthland: then set OPACXSLTDetailsDisplay to "Use." 16:05 * jcamins_away leaves again. 16:09 sekjal oleonard: I believe I do 16:13 morthland I am running from the livecd, is there a simple upgrade path? 16:14 morthland2 accidently refreshed 16:23 morthland2 How can I upgrade to 3.6 16:42 sekjal morthland2: I don't believe there is an easy way to upgrade from the livecd 16:42 sekjal and the most recent version of Koha you can get that way is 3.2.5 (from Mizstik), which is no longer a supported version 16:45 bag bug 7001 16:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7001 enhancement, P3, ---, srdjan, Pushed to Master , User Configurable Slips 16:45 bag yay pushed to master :) 16:50 bag bug 5339 16:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5339 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , Parcel closing in acq 16:53 cait hi #koha 16:53 cait yes, that's a nice bug :) 16:53 cait hi bag 16:54 bag hi cait 16:54 bag hmm.. Needs Signoff… busy today - maybe this weekend :) 16:54 cait that's what I keep saying too :( 16:54 cait but marseille next week will perhaps help with that :) 16:59 reiveune bye 17:10 mbalmer gude eivening 17:17 mbalmer oh nice, the next IRC meeting is during the hackfest 17:24 sekjal mbalmer: thanks for the reminder! I'll be in a conference session right about then, but hopefully it'll have WiFi 18:08 magnuse is there a clever way to prettyprint/tidy an xslt file? 18:10 sekjal magnuse: not sure 18:20 magnuse looks like something like "tidy -xml -i -utf8 -w <file>" might be usable 18:24 magnuse oh well 18:28 libsysguy o/ 18:31 libsysguy if I wanted to rollback a patch im testing that made a db change 18:32 libsysguy would I have to have a backup of the db? 18:34 cait depends on the change 18:34 libsysguy bug 5339 18:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5339 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , Parcel closing in acq 18:34 cait i do a mysqldump omst of the time 18:35 cait hm that's a bit harder 18:35 libsysguy yeah I thought so 18:35 cait because you have to put the invoice numbe back into it's original place 18:35 libsysguy im just restoring the backup 18:35 libsysguy it just takes forever because its like 5 gig 18:35 libsysguy I want to test that patch but i got it before it was rebased 18:36 libsysguy so it made a mess 18:36 cait ah 18:36 cait yes, it should work better now 18:36 cait it broke some features in other parts 18:36 libsysguy I saw that too 18:36 libsysguy im wanting to add some additional features to it as well 18:37 libsysguy but I'll create an enhancement request and add 5339 as a block 19:18 alaquerre Hi all, question for you. Is there a way to extract MARC field 000 ? I tried : ExtractValue(biblioitems.marcxml,'//record/controlfield[@tag="000"]'). The field is always empty. If I try with 008 it work. 19:19 jcamins alaquerre: there is no such tag. 19:19 jcamins That's the leader. 19:19 cait ^^ what he says 19:19 cait <leader></leader> 19:19 libsysguy cait…I think that invoices patch is out of date again 19:19 libsysguy I've getting conflicts 19:19 cait libsysguy: :( 19:19 cait where does it conflict? 19:19 cait lots of changes recently 19:19 libsysguy koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/acqui/parcel.tt 19:20 libsysguy and updatedatabase.pl 19:20 libsysguy but that pretty much always conflicts 19:20 libsysguy but this was on a fresh install of master 19:21 alaquerre jcamins - So I need to use extractValue to find the leader instead... ok I'll try. thanks. 19:21 jcamins You're welcome. 19:21 cait hm 19:21 cait you could look at parcel 19:21 cait if it's an easy fix 19:22 libsysguy yeah im looking at it now 19:22 libsysguy it seems confusing 19:22 libsysguy the conflicted on all the <th> tags 19:22 libsysguy and then there seems to be a row above it 19:22 libsysguy ill play with it and see if I can get it to work 19:22 cait I think next time I can take a look will be after my distance study day 19:22 cait so not before sunday... 19:23 libsysguy well its just a test instance for me 19:23 libsysguy so its nbd if it breaks 19:23 mbalmer guv evning 19:28 infolibr123 Hello. Is there anyone who might be able to help with a koha newbie on an issue with a new install? 19:29 rangi we wont know until we hear your question ;) 19:29 infolibr123 Sorry :) 19:30 infolibr123 My installation seems to be working fine, except that the opac search returns an error about not being able to find the file opac-search.xml 19:30 rangi hmm that doesnt sound right at all ... what version of koha is it? 19:30 cait infolibr123: which version of koha are you using? 19:31 infolibr123 3.06.04.000 19:31 jcamins infolibr123: are you sure it's looking for opac-search.*xml*? 19:32 rangi weird, that's an error i havent seen before 19:32 infolibr123 here is the exact error: Could not find opac-search.xml in /usr/share/koha/opac/cgi-bin/opac/ at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Search.pm line 613 19:33 rangi hmmm 19:33 rangi http://ashs.mykoha.co.nz/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=test <-- thats a 3.6.4 ... so i wonder whats different 19:33 rangi will look at the code now 19:33 rangi ooohhh 19:34 rangi switch off the grouping search results 19:34 jcamins Ah. 19:34 infolibr123 i'm running this on Ubuntu 10.01 LTS if that matters 19:34 rangi in your sysprefs 19:34 jcamins It's paz. 19:34 rangi yeah 19:34 infolibr123 the pazpar2 server... 19:34 rangi yeah there should be a systempreference under searching 19:35 infolibr123 ooking now 19:35 rangi something about group search results 19:35 infolibr123 Dont use PazPar2... 19:35 rangi yeah 19:36 jcamins You know, maybe that should be removed... it doesn't work, does it? 19:36 infolibr123 confirmed. that solved the isse 19:36 rangi it did, it worked quite well, but currently no it should be disabled and fixed 19:36 infolibr123 thanks all 19:36 cait hm 19:36 cait how difficult to fix? 19:36 * rangi had it serching project gutenberg and ashs at the same time 19:36 rangi not that hard 19:37 rangi 2 or 3 days work 19:48 maximep should I sent patches that fix stuff under ModPerl::PerlRunPrefork ? 19:48 jcamins maximep: sure. 19:57 jcamins maximep: presumably the bugs they address are underlying issues that only come up with mod_perl. 19:57 maximep global variable $stylesheet in XSLTParse4Display 19:58 maximep replaced it to a global hash of parsed xsl files 19:58 rangi fixing those are good practice anyway 19:59 rangi however we implement persistance, mod_perl, plack, dancer .. globals cause problems 19:59 maximep I didn't want to lose the performance of having a cache of the parsed file 19:59 maximep really does a big difference of speed 20:00 rangi yeah, but theres way to do that more nicely, including cleaning up, or caching in memcached 20:00 maximep well the whole point of using mod_perl is to have everything cached. Sure you have to restart apache to make changes, but that's very rare 20:00 rangi yep, but having things cached that you never clear 20:01 rangi is just not a good idea 20:01 jcamins Seems to me that memcached would be preferable. 20:01 rangi ie caching sysprefs and never clearing them 20:01 jcamins More scalable. 20:01 mbalmer looking fwd to some wine in marseille… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSuH9u0kvhU&feature=youtu.be 20:01 rangi means someone changes a syspref .. need to restart apache to see the change ... yuck 20:01 maximep yeah it sucks a bit for sysprefs 20:01 maximep yeah 20:01 rangi its easily fixed 20:01 rangi just make the code that changes them, either flush the cache, or inject the new value in 20:02 maximep I agree for sysprefs : memcache is better 20:02 rangi http://www.stuff.co.nz/ <-- mod_perl and lots of caching 20:02 maximep but there's no way to flush the cache of parsed xsl files 20:02 rangi they are cached and stored in a variable right? 20:02 maximep yes 20:03 rangi undefing that variable would flush it :) 20:03 maximep sure, but when do you flush it 20:03 maximep for syspref you do it when you save 20:03 maximep easy 20:03 rangi yup, and with the new user submitted xslt 20:03 rangi you do the same 20:04 maximep user submitted xslt ? 20:04 jcamins rangi: do we have user-submitted XSLT yet? 20:04 rangi yep, there is a new enhancement on the way 20:04 rangi but until then 20:04 rangi i would flush it when someone changes an xslt syspref ;) 20:04 rangi turning it on or off 20:05 rangi and also when running the web based upgrade 20:05 rangi be nice to have a clean_cache 20:05 maximep I guess... but a pain for developers 20:05 maximep but something to clean the whole memcached probably exists ? 20:05 cait restart? 20:05 rangi yep, but i care about devs way way way way less than users :) 20:06 cait I mean for developers 20:06 rangi yeah cache->flush_all 20:06 rangi easy with memcached 20:08 rangi anyway, thats off topic, anything you do to make mod_perl run better will indirectly be good for the rest of koha, so yep do it :) 20:08 maximep ok 20:08 maximep alright 20:08 maximep will mention memcached in the bug 20:08 maximep as a possible enhencement 20:09 maximep hoping we have time to start using memcached to have the performance boost and not have the mod_perl problems 20:10 Morthland Howdy 20:16 edveal Anyone ever changed the focus of hold-found dialog box from ignore to "Confirm hold and Transfer" so that when you hit enter the hold is confirmed rather than ignored? 20:44 bag bug 5549 20:44 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5549 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, koha.sekjal, Needs Signoff , Hourly Loans 20:47 mbalmer bug 4711 20:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4711 was not found. 20:47 mbalmer <huginn> smells like perfume 21:11 cait @wunder Marseille 21:11 huginn cait: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 11.0°C (10:00 PM CET on March 15, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.39 in 1029 hPa (Steady). 21:11 cait @wunder Konstanz 21:11 huginn cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 7.0°C (10:00 PM CET on March 15, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.37 in 1028 hPa (Rising). 22:33 eythian jcamins_away: tried that, it didn't work (unless you really mean "three quote marks" 22:41 MiltsNZ hey all, does anyone know if it's possible to change the settings for autocompleting the 008 field? 22:42 MiltsNZ I was going to set a default value in the framework, but suddenly realised that would mean the "Date entered on file" would always be incorrect >.< 22:42 jcamins_away eythian: that was literally three quote marks in a row. 22:43 eythian jcamins_away: OK, I'll give that a go. Ta. 22:43 jcamins_away eythian: you're welcome. 22:44 jcamins_away MiltsNZ: 12MMDD will do what you need. 22:44 jcamins_away You just have to update it once a year. :) 22:44 MiltsNZ awesome! 22:44 MiltsNZ cheers, figured there must be some solution 22:44 jcamins_away MiltsNZ: it's not ideal, but it works pretty well. 22:46 jcamins_away eythian: CSV may use the stupidest quote escaping of all time. 22:46 MiltsNZ jcamins_away: well, close enough to idea. Taking the time once a year to update it isn't the end of the world 22:46 MiltsNZ *ideal 22:46 jcamins_away Yeah, that was my philosophy, too. 22:47 eythian jcamins_away: as far as I can tell, there is no reliable standard. 22:47 jcamins_away eythian: yeah, I can't find one, either. 23:08 MiltsNZ jcamins_away: any reason you don't use YYMMDD? I've put it in and it seems to fill correctly. Could be the system hasn't registered my change to the framework yet though... 23:08 jcamins_away MiltsNZ: YY didn't work for me. It came out literally YY. 23:09 eythian jcamins_away: I hope you filed a bug :D 23:10 jcamins_away eythian: well, it isn't supposed to work. 23:10 jcamins_away (not that it wouldn't be nice if it did, of course) 23:10 MiltsNZ jcamins_away: I'll give it a go again on Monday and see if it's broken by then 23:11 eythian jcamins_away: I hope you filed an enhancement! 23:11 jcamins_away eythian: I did not. 23:11 eythian tsk tsk 23:30 cait night #koha 23:42 MiltsNZ haha you were dead right jcamins_away, once the changes came through it did just start putting 'YY" instead of the year. 23:59 MiltsNZ ok, thx for the help, time to enjoy the sun