Time Nick Message 23:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7420 enhancement, P3, ---, srdjan, Signed Off , Add max fines to circulation matrix 23:07 bag bug 7420 23:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7402 normal, P3, ---, chris, Pushed to Master , invoice not showing received titles 23:07 bag bug 7402 22:58 wizzyrea later 22:58 wizzyrea woot! time to go! 22:34 wizzyrea I figured! 22:34 * wizzyrea nods 22:34 magnus_away yeah, yeah i'm gone now :-) 22:34 magnus_away 11.30 pm here though 22:34 * wizzyrea shoos you that way 22:34 magnus_away nope, not quite 22:34 wizzyrea ! you are not in bed already? 22:34 magnus_afk g'night #koha! 21:41 sekjal later, #koha! 21:37 sekjal looks like the weekend has begun 20:53 maximep pretty good 20:50 oleonard That's what I thought too. 20:50 wahanui -16.6666666666667 20:50 oleonard 2+(7-3*9)+4/3? 20:50 maximep most people get 2+2*2 wrong 20:50 maximep nice 20:49 oleonard 27 degrees Celsius in Fahrenheit? 20:49 wahanui 6 20:49 maximep 2+2*2? 20:49 wizzyrea there it is 20:49 wahanui 4 20:49 oleonard 2+2? 20:49 wizzyrea 2+2 20:49 maximep right. 20:49 huginn maximep: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything. 20:49 maximep @gcalc 2+2 20:47 bag stupid 20:47 huginn bag: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything. 20:47 bag @gcalc 27 degrees Celsius in Fahrenheit 20:46 oleonard Hunh, works in Google. 20:46 huginn oleonard: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything. 20:46 oleonard @gcalc 27 c in fahrenheit 20:45 maximep 80.6 20:45 maximep wuuuuuuut 20:45 huginn maximep: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything. 20:45 maximep @gcalc 27C in F 20:44 bag heh 20:44 huginn bag: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything. 20:44 bag @gcalc 27 in F 20:44 bag s/or/of 20:44 wizzyrea well, to be fair kansas is unseasonably warm :) 20:43 bag but today will probably be the hotest day or the year :) 20:43 oleonard More like Quebec than Kansas here today 20:43 bag for early spring :) 20:43 wizzyrea 27 is getting close to "too warm" 20:43 bag darn another win :) 20:43 wizzyrea 16's really not bad. Pretty nice. 20:43 huginn oleonard: The current temperature in Ohio University, Athens, Ohio is 7.0°C (3:40 PM EST on March 09, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 35%. Dew Point: -7.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.23 in 1023.6 hPa (Steady). 20:43 oleonard @wunder 45701 20:43 maximep -2 is good enough for me 20:43 maximep 27 is ridiculous 20:43 bag ouch another crushing defeat for SB! 20:42 huginn sekjal: The current temperature in Plain Road East, South Deerfield, Massachusetts is 5.7°C (3:04 PM EST on March 09, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.79 in 1008.7 hPa (Steady). 20:42 sekjal @wunder 01373 20:42 bag heh 20:42 bag yup but doesn't compare with 27!!! 20:41 wizzyrea pretty nice really 20:41 wizzyrea not bad :) 20:41 huginn wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 16.2°C (2:40 PM CST on March 09, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 26%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Pressure: 30.47 in 1031.7 hPa (Steady). 20:41 wizzyrea @wunder lawrence ks 20:40 maximep beautiful day and kind of warm here 20:39 huginn maximep: The current temperature in Quebec, Quebec is -2.0°C (3:00 PM EST on March 09, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: -11.0°C. Windchill: -7.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Rising). 20:39 maximep @wunder CYQB 20:39 maximep arg 20:39 huginn maximep: Error: No such location could be found. 20:39 maximep @wunder CYQC 20:39 huginn bag: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 13.0°C (9:00 AM NZDT on March 10, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). 20:39 bag @wunder wellington, nz 20:39 huginn maximep: Error: No such location could be found. 20:39 maximep @wunder cyqc 20:39 bag yeah it's HOT here 20:39 huginn bag: The current temperature in K6LCM-Westside/Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 27.1°C (12:38 PM PST on March 09, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 10%. Dew Point: -7.0°C. Pressure: 30.11 in 1019.5 hPa (Steady). 20:39 bag @wunder 93109 20:39 bag heh 20:39 wahanui DeM KraZy NutZ!! 20:39 bag mtj? 20:37 maximep AND SCREAMING AT YOU 20:36 wahanui I LIKE PLAYING DRUMS AND METAL MUSIC 20:36 maximep maximep? 20:29 mbalmer bah 20:25 wahanui paul_p is the 3.8 release manager, and is very tall, and does not like coffee. 20:25 mbalmer paul_p? 20:02 * jcamins heads home early. 19:55 nengard then yes 19:52 oleonard Yes. 10.0.2 is what I have. 19:52 nengard is that the most recent? :) 19:50 oleonard Firefox 10.x? 19:50 nengard on mac 19:50 nengard firefox 19:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7693 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , clear screen button misaligned 19:50 oleonard In what browser are you seeing Bug 7693? 19:50 nengard yes 19:49 oleonard nengard around? 19:45 dgl-library adios for now — signing off again 19:45 dgl-library ok. thanks for clarifying that. 19:44 jcamins dgl-library: no, never. 19:44 dgl-library jcamins: sorry, back for a quick question. after a reboot, I see I now have a new unix user called something like "koha instance dgllibrary" … Is there ever a reason why I should log in as that user, such as when I do the web setup? (I don't remember picking a password, btw) 19:40 jcamins I would also guess that when I update the problem will go away. 19:39 jcamins My guess would be the C4-decycling. 19:38 jcamins That's two different thoughts. 19:38 jcamins oleonard: none. This isn't master. 19:38 oleonard jcamins: Any idea what the cause is? It doesn't happen to me 19:34 jcamins That's why I didn't notice it before. I rarely go to the cataloguing home page. 19:34 jcamins Don't use that page. 19:34 jcamins It's an easy workaround. 19:34 cait hm 19:33 jcamins A system that I've been happily using all day just gave me this error: Global symbol "$borrowernumber" requires explicit package name at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/cataloguing/addbooks.pl line 75. 19:33 jcamins Here's a weird one. 19:30 dgl-library ok, signing off for now. thanks so much jcamins and wizzyrea for so patiently walking me through this! 19:30 dgl-library ah, gotcha 19:29 jcamins That was a note for the future, not an instruction. 19:29 jcamins dgl-library: you need to modify that file if you want Apache to listen on a particular address that isn't localhost. 19:28 dgl-library but apache is on the same box as koha (and mysql), so isn't it still localhost? 19:28 jcamins (the config file is /etc/apache2/sites/sites-available/dgllibrary ) 19:28 dgl-library ok. my guess would also have been that I don't need to mess with it. 19:28 jcamins You just have to modify the Apache config file to listen on the correct address. 19:27 jcamins I don't think it matters. 19:27 jcamins Hm. 19:27 dgl-library one more question about localhost — if I'm eventually going to set a specific IP address for the koha server so other machines on the LAN can access it, would I enter that ip address as DOMAIN= or is it still localhost? 19:25 dgl-library :) :) 19:25 jcamins Looks like you're all set up. :) 19:24 dgl-library Starting Zebra server for dgllibrary 19:24 wahanui i already had it that way, dgl-library. 19:24 dgl-library . 19:24 dgl-library ... waiting apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName 19:24 dgl-library Restarting web server: apache2apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName 19:24 dgl-library Run '/etc/init.d/apache2 reload' to activate new configuration! 19:24 dgl-library Enabling site dgllibrary. 19:24 dgl-library Koha instance is empty, no staff user created. 19:24 dgl-library cat: /etc/koha/passwd: No such file or directory 19:24 dgl-library does this look successful? 19:23 jcamins Or as root. 19:22 jcamins Just with sudo. 19:22 jcamins Nope. 19:22 dgl-library do I have to run "koha-create --create-db mylibrary" from within a certain directory? 19:21 dgl-library great 19:21 jcamins Yeah, that's fine. 19:21 dgl-library ... waiting apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName 19:21 dgl-library I guess that worked… the result was: Restarting web server: apache2apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName 19:19 dgl-library I see 19:18 wizzyrea well anytime you touch the apache config, really 19:17 wizzyrea anytime you restart apache it has to be done as sudo or root 19:17 jcamins That has to be run with sudo. 19:16 dgl-library I mean, I got that result when I ran the command: /etc/init.d/apache2 restart 19:16 dgl-library failed! 19:16 dgl-library The Apache error log may have more information. 19:16 dgl-library Action 'start' failed. 19:16 dgl-library Unable to open logs 19:16 dgl-library no listening sockets available, shutting down 19:16 dgl-library (13)Permission denied: make_sock: could not bind to address 0.0.0.0:80 19:16 dgl-library (13)Permission denied: make_sock: could not bind to address [::]:80 19:16 dgl-library apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName 19:16 dgl-library Restarting web server: apache2apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName 19:16 dgl-library dgl@library-server:~$ /etc/init.d/apache2 restart 19:16 dgl-library Run '/etc/init.d/apache2 restart' to activate new configuration! 19:16 dgl-library Enabling module rewrite. 19:16 dgl-library not sure if I've run into a snag here or not, but when following the step "sudo a2enmod rewrite" I got this result: 19:14 dgl-library thanks 19:14 jcamins dgl-library: the koha-* commands need to be run as root. 19:13 dgl-library does everything need to be run as sudo/root, including koha-create? 19:01 dgl-library ok 19:00 jcamins dgl-library: Debian doesn't use sudo by default. You have to add your user to sudoers yourself. 19:00 dgl-library I always have to use the Root Terminal tool instead (in Gnome) 19:00 dgl-library I think I did something wrong in debian, because my user is not in the sudoers file 18:59 dgl-library wizzyrea: ok 18:58 wizzyrea sudo gedit 18:58 dgl-library hmm, gedit opened it read-only… 18:57 jcamins You won't be using name-based virtual hosts. 18:57 dgl-library great. thanks 18:57 jcamins Nope. 18:57 dgl-library I don't need to change NameVirtualHost to localhost? 18:57 jcamins Yup. 18:57 dgl-library Listen 8080 18:57 dgl-library Listen 80 18:57 dgl-library NameVirtualHost *:80 18:56 dgl-library so the relevant bit of ports.conf should look like this, right? 18:56 jcamins Yup. :) 18:56 jcamins lol 18:56 wizzyrea 15 minutes 18:56 wizzyrea 4 hours and 17 minutes, to be exact. 18:55 jcamins There's still time. 18:55 wizzyrea oh well maybe next year 18:55 jcamins Also an application, and a list of ideas, and stuff. 18:55 wizzyrea nuts. 18:54 jcamins Probably. 18:54 wizzyrea lol. 18:54 wizzyrea do we need a vote? 18:54 wizzyrea sure why not. 18:54 jcamins wizzyrea: will you be our GSOC administrator? :) 18:52 wizzyrea oh. 18:52 wizzyrea ha ha ha ha ha 18:52 * wizzyrea suggests "cataloging rewrite" 18:51 * jcamins nominates someone else to propose Koha as a mentor organization. 18:48 jcamins It's GSOC application time. 18:46 jcamins You're welcome. :) 18:45 dgl-library jcamins: thanks for the info! 18:45 jcamins Yup, looks right to me. 18:45 jcamins I think. 18:45 jcamins Looks good. 18:45 dgl-library wizzyrea: wow, that was fast — nice work! 18:44 wizzyrea http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.6_on_Debian_Squeeze#Quick_Start 18:44 wizzyrea jcamins, please proof ;) 18:44 jcamins dgl-library: you leave that blank. 18:44 wahanui to the wiki is, like, best, when it's there 18:44 wizzyrea to the wiki 18:44 wizzyrea you should see the changes 18:44 wizzyrea dgl if you refresh 18:43 dgl-library and I leave INTRASUFFIX blank, or remove the whole line? 18:43 jcamins leave that blank as well. 18:42 dgl-library what about INTRAPREFIX? 18:42 jcamins After the Listen 80 18:42 jcamins Sorry. 18:42 jcamins dgl-library: just at the end. After the Listen 8080 18:41 dgl-library where/how do I add Listen 8080 to /etc/apache2/ports.conf? 18:41 dgl-library jcamins: thanks! yes, would be good to have that in the docs 18:41 jcamins We should, yes. 18:41 jcamins Add Listen 8080 to /etc/apache2/ports.conf. 18:40 wizzyrea ok, now I don't feel so dumb, because I was going to suggest that. We really ought to add that to the docs. 18:40 jcamins Set INTRAPORT to 8080. 18:40 jcamins Take out INTRASUFFIX. 18:40 jcamins Set it to localhost 18:40 jcamins Sorry, was distracted. 18:40 wizzyrea see, ha 18:40 jcamins Yes. 18:40 wizzyrea that's a good question, my guess is no 18:40 dgl-library INTRASUFFIX="-intra" 18:40 dgl-library INTRAPREFIX="" 18:40 dgl-library INTRAPORT="80" 18:40 dgl-library as in… DOMAIN=".mydomain.co.nz" 18:39 dgl-library wizzyrea: thanks. not hosting this on a domain. strictly local LAN. do I need to specify a domain? 18:38 cait alaquerre: glad I could help :) 18:38 alaquerre cait: that's exacly what we need for the acquisition. Thanks for the help. chow! 18:38 wizzyrea shoot 18:38 dgl-library I have a question about the Koha "Quick Start": http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.6_on_Debian_Squeeze#Quick_Start 18:36 maximep =) 18:35 alaquerre I dont want to put pressure on maximep here :-) 18:35 cait 3.8 is already so near! 18:35 cait alaquerre: cool - perhaps will be in 3.10 :) 18:34 alaquerre thanks cait! 18:34 alaquerre btw : to make sure maximep is saying the truth - We will release mobile opac once it's ready. Let's say in 1 month from now. 18:34 mbalmer Lunch time there, Dinner time here ;) 18:34 cait but it looks even better now 18:33 cait there are screenshots too :) 18:33 oleonard Lunch time 18:33 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7178 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Failed QA , Improve order item creation 18:33 cait bug 7178 18:33 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3966 normal, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Needs Signoff , receiving items should allow for entering barcode 18:33 cait bug 3966 18:33 alaquerre ok 18:33 cait let me find it for you :) 18:33 cait in acq 18:32 cait there are some other enhancements in the works to make the items look nicer 18:32 alaquerre ok - nice then. 18:32 alaquerre .. 18:32 alaquerre Is it done, do you need 18:32 cait alaquerre: there is a patch waiting for that to be signed off even I think 18:32 cait but that's in the works 18:32 cait alaquerre: not yet 18:30 alaquerre Another question for everyone : When we do the acquisition, is it possible to see the item fields on placing order + reception ? Couple of peoples here would like to have access to items field at each step. ( Placing order : select budget, document type. On reception : place barcode, price etc. ) We currently need to use one or the other... 18:21 jcamins maximep: that's okay... there's nothing wrong with sharing work-in-progress. Just use a public git repository. 18:21 maximep not finished yet 18:21 maximep I think it's planned 18:20 jcamins maximep: that's very cool. It'd be awesome if you could release it. :) 18:20 maximep really only 2 lines + css 18:19 jcamins oleonard: I see. 18:19 oleonard jcamins: But the principle is the same: different CSS being applied at different viewport widths 18:19 oleonard jcamins: I think it can be made even more flexible if we rebuild using a different CSS framework 18:19 cait can't we do both? :) 18:18 jcamins oleonard: I thought you were advocating an entirely new template? 18:18 oleonard maximep's approach is the one I have been advocating 18:18 jcamins cait: I know, but I thought there was some sort of contract issue that limited them to the previously-released things. 18:18 cait jcamins: they already released some things :) 18:17 maximep client is working hard to enable us to release all our changes 18:17 wizzyrea that would be cool if you could 18:16 maximep [off] preview at https://dev3.koha.sys-tech.net/. Simple media queries so juste resize your browser window. 18:16 jcamins maximep: I thought you weren't allowed to release your changes? 18:15 maximep jcamins: ? I think we will 18:15 kyleh oleanard: I'll figure that part out afterward : ) I'm imagining another section in the apache file for the mobile stuff, and have apache set an environment variable that we can use to tell the template getter to use the mobile templates instead of the standard opac templates. 18:14 jcamins maximep: unfortunately, you can't release it. 18:14 maximep our opac version is so much more simple : we just did a separate css 18:13 oleonard kyleh: How does the browser detection work? 18:13 cait sep templates 18:12 cait yep 18:12 wizzyrea kyleh: what jcamins said 18:12 Shane-S kk will do 18:12 jcamins kyleh: separate templates, single scripts. 18:12 cait Shane-S: search bugzilla for it - restriction 18:11 cait but there is a bug abou tit 18:11 cait not yet 18:11 kyleh the template names changed. I'm leaning toward having the mobile site just be another set of templates. That way, we keep the code DRY. I can then engineer a way for koha to use the mobile templates instead of the standard opac templates when the site is reached from a mobile phone ( probably using some apache configuration ). 18:11 kyleh calling all developers: looking for opinions. I'm looking at integrating the koha mobile-phone opac support that stow-munroe has created and I have a simple but important questions: Should the mobile site have separate perl scripts for everything, or should the mobile opac use the standard opac scripts with just a separate set of templates. Stow-Munroe used separte opac scripts, but they are just direct copies of the originals with 18:11 Shane-S Anyone know if you can set checkout alerts for content/grade/age level? 18:08 cait when oyu stage records in ACQ somewhere from the record 18:08 Shane-S well for our needs, in reports 18:08 cait in circulation from the item, replacement cost 18:07 Shane-S I mean one book could cost $25 and then another cost $10, but both be the same book 18:07 cait depends where 18:07 Shane-S its is pulled from the item or biblio is better questions 18:07 Shane-S Oh what field is book price pulled from? 18:04 Shane-S okay, I just want to fix it if it does break, but I don't forsee that as all I did was add CSS classes 18:04 * wizzyrea waves towards the himalayas 18:03 wizzyrea and no - sorry I've been rushing around all week like a crazy person. 18:03 wizzyrea j/k :) 18:03 wizzyrea alert, alert, bofh! 18:03 Shane-S I am a mean techie @ work ;) 18:02 Shane-S I get more complaints from adults going...they kids can't read the screen...and I respond...I can so why can't they...oh wait it is YOU who can't :P 18:02 Shane-S Lol doubt it, love my netbooks, for 5-12 year old's they work great. iPads even better for 5-8 18:00 jcamins Because anyone who is ordering 30 netbooks should be upsold to a smaller number of higher margin items? 18:00 Shane-S I want to know why the order is "stuck" 17:59 Shane-S Right now I am waiting for the sales rep to call me back on 30 netbooks 17:59 Shane-S no, waiting on my budget for that, getting a 2U server that I can virtualize with 32Gb Ram :) 17:59 jcamins Shane-S: new server? 17:56 * Shane-S is staring at quotes for computers so he is kinda bored waiting for a call back 17:55 Shane-S wizzyrea: I am not pressuring, just curious as you have that paid service, my book covers in results break your paid service covers? 17:54 huginn jcamins: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready 17:54 jcamins @rda? 17:54 huginn jcamins: No matching quotes were found. 17:54 jcamins @quote search rda 17:54 jcamins Actually, February 31 might have been better. 17:53 * Shane-S wonders why people are worrying about 2013, I hear we are all doomed in 2012 anyway *snickers( 17:53 jcamins Well, maybe. 17:53 jcamins sekjal: true. 17:53 * jcamins almost wrote "bitter choice." Would've been appropriate. 17:53 sekjal jcamins: better than Feb 31 17:53 jcamins Wouldn't April 1 have been a better choice? 17:53 jcamins Wrong. 17:53 jcamins Choosing March 31 for that seems... 17:52 Shane-S sekjal: I was just tossing that out there, if others want it, why not add it, just don't think its worth re-inventing the wheel if there are "plugins" so to speak 17:51 wizzyrea O.o 17:51 wahanui March 31, 2013 is, like, RDA implementation day 17:51 jcamins March 31, 2013? 17:50 wizzyrea why's that 17:50 wahanui big day is March 31, 2013. 17:50 jcamins big day? 17:50 jcamins Big day is March 31, 2013. 17:50 wahanui jcamins: I forgot big day 17:50 jcamins wahanui: forget big day. 17:50 wahanui big day is 9/10/11 17:50 jcamins Big day. 17:50 sekjal Shane-S: not every library will have an external stats DB; why not include it with Koha, and let users decide if it's worth using in their environment 17:50 jcamins March 31, 2013. 17:49 Shane-S note* 17:49 * Shane-S not the "wheel" analogy 17:49 Shane-S Sound to be like you could make collections interfaces for those fancy sports tires that are out there now? 17:48 Shane-S but you want the data IN koha and no communicating to an external statistical DB? 17:48 wizzyrea "hey dude, what're the stats?" 17:48 wizzyrea but that can talk to koha 17:47 wizzyrea crystal reports-like 17:47 wizzyrea maybe something like fulfillment for stats 17:47 * sekjal is looking for a unified stats solution for his library 17:47 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) 17:47 wizzyrea @quote get 123 17:47 sekjal and, as wizzyrea points out, if there could be a SIP2 or other standard interface for it, various devices could be connected 17:47 Shane-S someone get that libraries made scheme quote...sekjal seems to be following it :P 17:45 sekjal so you could look at circ stats in the context of doorcount, for example 17:45 sekjal oleonard: to bundle more of your library stat data in one DB 17:44 wizzyrea that would be cool 17:44 wizzyrea you could have a door counter that talked to the ILS via sip I guess 17:44 oleonard sekjal: What would be the advantage of doing that from within Koha? 17:43 wizzyrea that's the BBC-approved color 17:42 wizzyrea 2955c 17:42 sekjal idea: a Koha tool for recording arbitrary statistics (like door counts, headcounts in areas of the library, or reference transactions) 17:42 wizzyrea hm, maybe not pantone... sec 17:42 wizzyrea you know there's a pantone for "Tardis Blue" 17:42 wizzyrea hehe 17:41 oleonard Naw, I was never such a color nerd as to know my Pantone numbers :) 17:40 wizzyrea oleonard: for some reason, this makes me think of you: http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/laughingsquid/~3/jXTlcfRkRh4/ 17:35 jcamins Time for lunch, I think. 17:33 hdl1 see ya 17:31 hdl1 oleonard: if ppl are willing to take over the code and improve it, at least code is there. 17:31 jcamins oleonard: true. 17:30 oleonard biblios was probably doomed more by Liblime's failure to monetize it. They could have overcome the Gears dependency if they'd wanted to. 17:30 hdl1 jcamins: yes. because some company preferred to create just an other project. 17:29 jcamins Unfortunately, opencataloger appears to have been abandoned 4 years ago? 17:29 jcamins hdl1: it was a great improvement, and I was disappointed when it became clear that Google Gears wasn't going anywhere. 17:28 hdl1 based on xul 17:28 hdl1 http://gna.org/projects/opencataloger/ 17:28 hdl1 jcamins: biblios looked to some folks some great improvement over Koha cataloging module. opencataloger was also an other project for that. 17:26 jcamins And ideally the integrated Z39.50 would work directly off the editor window. 17:25 jcamins And somewhat less buggy, ideally. 17:25 jcamins hdl1: right, only not based on an obsolete technology. 17:24 hdl1 jcamins: something like biblios ? 17:22 oleonard Hi luisb 17:17 Shane-S oleonard: I am baffled by that bug as well, commented as such, I can't even come up with a purpose and I can very much a let user have what they want type :P 17:16 jcamins :P 17:16 jcamins oleonard: no, it'd be very simple to use. 17:16 wizzyrea bye :) 17:16 tcohen bye #koha, have a nice weekend 17:16 oleonard Yeah, it sounds all so simple until you, you know, describe it. 17:15 jcamins I like integrated Z39.50. :P 17:15 jcamins And with integrated Z39.50 because... 17:14 jcamins oleonard: exactly, something like pianohacker's interface, only integrated with authority control, authorised values, etc. 17:14 wizzyrea the follies of youth 17:14 wizzyrea (or boys, whatever. 17:14 wizzyrea (I hope.) 17:14 wizzyrea college. Girls. 17:13 jcamins In order to have anywhere near as many steps for my suggested new interface, I had to make each word a separate step. That seems like a win to me. :) 17:13 * oleonard thinks to wonder what pianohacker is up to these days 17:13 jcamins Versus right now... find appropriate box. Move box. Enter text. Realize that you entered text in the wrong box. Try to change subfield. Discover that your fields are in the wrong order. Realize you have no choice about that. Bang head on desk. 17:12 jcamins Just. Type. What. You. Want. :) 17:12 alaquerre Ok thanks for your input. I understand that under my little idea there is big problem. Have a good weekend everyone. 17:12 jcamins wizzyrea: I think accessibility would be better with an interface like that. 17:11 wizzyrea hi 17:11 sturmtruppen hi #koha 17:11 wizzyrea bye! 17:11 kf bye all - cya later! 17:11 kf thx :) 17:11 wizzyrea accessibility? 17:11 kf hehe 17:11 jcamins kf: go home! 17:11 jcamins kf: yeah, but they're special-purpose. 17:10 jcamins I'd like a nice Javascript-y Connexion-like interface. 17:10 * wizzyrea is reminded of that 80's song take on me 17:10 kf jcamins: can we plug in one of them into koha? 17:10 jcamins *take this on 17:10 wizzyrea :) 17:10 * kf is so excited about marseille 17:10 kf lol 17:10 * kf will meet oleonard! 17:10 * jcamins has written four cataloging interfaces, and does not want to take on this. 17:10 wizzyrea :) 17:10 wizzyrea oleonard: cynical much? 17:10 kf koha_fridays++ 17:09 kf lol 17:09 jcamins kf: yes, that would be best. 17:09 oleonard Someone should write up a proposal to form a committee to choose preliminary members of the working group development board. 17:09 kf :) 17:09 kf have another editor... until the other is no more used 17:09 wizzyrea lol 17:09 kf perhaps we could make it a parallel thing? 17:09 alaquerre Well, that's too much for our group right now :-P 17:09 kf hm 17:09 jcamins And an army of saints. 17:09 wizzyrea and it would almost require a working group 17:08 wizzyrea a cataloging rewrite? ^^ what he said 17:08 jcamins alaquerre: yes, I think we'd all like to see it rewritten, but that's kind of a big undertaking. 17:08 alaquerre jcamins : Okay. would it be something the community would like to eventually get ? 17:08 wizzyrea yea, it's hipwaders area 17:07 jcamins alaquerre: the code for the cataloging interface is quite horrifying. 17:06 jcamins alaquerre: unfortunately, that's not possible. 17:06 alaquerre People here told me by default it need to be letter first and after that number. It's a Marc21 standard. Example : http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd100.html 17:05 jcamins unpleasant. 17:05 jcamins Shane-S: really the cataloging editor just needs to be entirely rewritten because it's... 17:04 Shane-S couldn't the web output be loaded into a JS array to allow it to be sorted in the browser, but not actually change the backend? 17:04 sekjal jcamins: no, probably not 17:03 jcamins sekjal: it is, but I don't think there's any way to adjust the default. 17:03 reiveune bye 17:03 sekjal subfield order is important in MARC 17:02 jcamins Not to my knowledge. 17:02 alaquerre Hi everyone, is there a way to sort, by default, the subfield in the acquisition and cataloging so the number will be display after the letter ? Right now we have $1, $4, $a, $b, $e etc. We would like to have it : $a, $b, $e, $1, $4. People told correct in 3.2, and incorrect since we moved in 3.6. 17:02 * Shane-S goes to see what the feature is/does 16:58 oleonard It's unusual to add a link to an OPAC page specifically for hiding content on that page. 16:58 Shane-S oleonard: I haven't used tags, but is there something wrong with wanting to hide a feature? 16:56 Shane-S feel free to use it :P I just added a fine and a fines report from http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/SQL_Reports_Library#Patrons_w.2F_Fines to test it 16:55 oleonard Shane-S: The sandbox page is aimed at people who are testing other people's patches :) 16:55 jcamins Shane-S: it's okay. 16:54 * Shane-S was just doing what the sandbox page said :( 16:54 jcamins Shane-S: developers can't sign off on their own patches. 16:52 oleonard Clicking "hide my tags" reloads the page and hides the table of the user's tags. But... why? 16:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7689 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, stephane.delaune, Needs Signoff , add possibility to hide my tags in opac 16:51 oleonard Anyone know the reasons behind Bug 7689? 16:48 sekjal brb 16:47 marcelr :-) 16:47 sekjal I cobbled that patch together over the course of several months, mostly in train stations 16:47 marcelr in catalogue/search.pl 16:46 sekjal I think it may have been a copy/paste error 16:45 marcelr ok will look into it further ;) 16:45 sekjal I'm not sure... I think there was a followup patch to resolve that 16:44 marcelr sekjal: why opac images in staff for item types (quick question) 16:44 sekjal thanks, marcelr 16:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7031 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha.sekjal, Signed Off , More options for AdvancedSearchTypes 16:41 jcamins bug 7031 16:41 marcelr sekjal: looking at 7031 now 16:33 kf I wrote friday afternoon 16:33 kf oups, wrong line 16:33 mbalmer flight is around friday 15:something 16:32 mbalmer kf, yes, friday afternoon 16:32 kf Thursday 12am (or Friday 17pm) 16:32 jcamins ric? 16:32 kf I think you leave earlier now? 16:32 mbalmer company is not important, I guess. 16:32 mbalmer that sounds reasonable 16:31 kf and you are added to the database workshop ;) 16:31 kf there is the company (empty for you) name, email , ric nick counry arrives on leaves on hotel 16:31 mbalmer is there any other info needed, like phone numbers or so? 16:31 kf bye claire :) 16:30 clrh have a good we, bye 16:30 mbalmer thanks 16:30 kf mbalmer: i put it in 16:30 oleonard Shane-S: Or you can test the patch yourself by creating a new branch based on master and trying to apply it 16:30 tcohen a good way of knowing an object is an instance of a classs? 16:30 paul_p Shane-S http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Sandboxes 16:30 tcohen is this: if (blessed($variable) && $variable->isa("Class::Package")) 16:30 paul_p Shane-S you could use a sandbox to check yourself that the patch cleanly applies 16:29 mbalmer paul_p, it should only be a 15 min walk. 16:29 Shane-S oleonard: even if I am not 90% sure, because I had git issues, I'm nervous the patch won't work, diff looks good though 16:29 tcohen a perl monk there? need some comfirmation 16:29 mbalmer kf, I can't edit that spreadsheet, in fact I can't even read it (no google account) 16:29 paul_p mbalmer beware = for a swiss man, Marseille look like a dirty city. but the "vieux port" is one of the most typical place of Marseille. And close from our office 16:28 oleonard Shane-S: Mark the report as "needs signoff" so people know it's ready for testing 16:27 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7646 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, ssammons, In Discussion , Printing w/o the SQL Code showing 16:27 Shane-S bug 7646, I finally got a patch that works I hope...anyone free that could test the patch? I had a heck of time using git rebase to learn how to fix a patch last night 16:27 mbalmer paul_p, I am actually in the Newhotel Vieux Port 16:27 kf mbalmer: ah, I saw you are still listed at hotelmoderne in paul's spreadsheet 16:27 * mbalmer hopes the quarter around the old harbour is nice 16:26 kf oleonard: at least you can speak some french... 16:26 * oleonard learned everything he knows about Marseille from "Asterix and the Banquet" 16:25 asaurat kohastis 3.7.323.hips 16:24 mbalmer paul_p, after the hacking, of course ;) 16:24 * sekjal really wishes he could be there for the hackfest 16:24 paul_p mbalmer really, you want some pastis ? 16:24 paul_p kf no problem with that, don't worry 16:24 mbalmer and Pastis! 16:24 kf make sure to order enough sushi/pizza ;) 16:23 paul_p (some of the coming ppl come only for 3 days, for the last 2 days, we will be less) 16:23 mbalmer paul_p, get some cheap couch from IKEA ;) 16:23 * kf will make sure to be there early each day 16:23 jcamins The authority linking is *so* nice. 16:23 kf lol 16:23 * jcamins cheers 16:23 paul_p oleonard you want to know the truth ? we counted them, and we have only 31 comfortable chairs ! (+ 8 that are not comfortable at all) 16:23 kf paul_p: it will be cozy 16:22 paul_p yep, our office will be a little bit small... 16:22 oleonard paul_p: Should I bring my own chair? :) 16:22 paul_p a lot of french libraries are coming, i'm really happy about that ! 16:22 mbalmer wow 16:22 mbalmer 32 ? 16:22 paul_p oleonard & kf = have you seen that we will be 32 ? 16:21 kf oleonard: too true :( 16:21 oleonard I can already tell a week isn't going to be enough hackfest :) 16:21 sekjal so we could commit changes and share them without having to wait for it to be "done". the new template would be a 'use at your own risk' thing throught at least one dev cycle 16:21 kf you can translate it, but the grammar will be poor 16:21 kf oleonard: because I still have some major translatability issues with that 16:20 kf oleonard: I hoped to throw around some ideas with you at the hackfest... memberentry is one of my candidates 16:20 sekjal could be developed in parallel to our current template 16:20 kf oleonard: continually rewriting the template to make use of the new options we have with tt would be nice... 16:20 paul_p oleonard & jcamins we already made a CSS for limoges, adapted for mobile phones 16:19 sekjal prog5 (since it's surely be an HTML5 template.... :) ) 16:19 oleonard yeah, I really don't think it's overly ambitious. But I've never tried it before so maybe I'm crazy 16:19 jcamins oleonard++ # because that was volunteering if I ever heard it 16:19 jcamins oleonard: really? 16:19 sekjal one key thing: we need to keep inbound/outbound parameters for each page as consistent as possible 16:19 * oleonard doesn't think so 16:18 jcamins oleonard: that'd be pretty awesome, but I can't help but think that it might be a little over-ambitious. 16:18 oleonard Or we could design a new OPAC template from the ground up using responsive principles which would eliminate the need for more than one template 16:18 sekjal agreed 150% 16:17 jcamins But I, for one, think that template should be open source. 16:17 jcamins sekjal: I know. 16:17 sekjal jcamins: creating a mobile template in koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl wouldn't be too hard. we'd just have to maintain another template 16:17 jcamins kf: I know. I'm referring to the number of people who have announced mobile OPACs and not shared them. 16:17 paul_p jcamins++ !!! 16:17 kf sekjal: yeah, that is annoying anyway 16:16 sekjal kf: I think that can be fixed by not automatically loading a new page each time the center book si changed 16:16 paul_p kf joubu did some tests, and it seems that was not broken, just hidden. he had to leave to catch his train, he will investigate on monday (and hopefully test a patch sent by srdjan ;-) ) 16:16 kf jcamins: using jquery mobile and some other projects he has worked on 16:16 kf jcamins: magnuse has done some interesting things for this 16:15 jcamins sekjal: I'm imagining a single mobile interface that is open source, and everyone works on together. 16:15 kf sekjal: it's too slow :( 16:14 * sekjal is imagining the Shelf Browser in a mobile OPAC that responds to finger swipes... mmmm, shiny 16:13 jcamins paul_p: rangi is pondering a solution that doesn't involve eliminating a unit test. 16:12 jcamins paul_p: so you know, it turns out the problem with jenkins is that the jenkins script deletes the index every time it runs. 16:12 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7408 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha.sekjal, Pushed to Master , Expire holds that have been waiting too long 16:12 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: bug 7408 follow-up fixing trailing ` 16:12 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 7408 - Don't cancel found reserves. 16:12 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: bug 7408 follow-up DBRev number 16:12 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 7408 - Expire holds that have been waiting too long 16:12 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #651: STILL UNSTABLE in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/651/ 16:12 wizzyrea :) 16:12 wizzyrea WHY 16:12 wizzyrea and not a single one of them will commit to actually submitting it 16:11 kf similar history to the slip printing 16:11 marcelr joubu is not his irc name? 16:11 jcamins oleonard: something like that. 16:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5347 enhancement, P2, ---, jonathan.druart, RESOLVED FIXED, late order management 16:11 kf bug 5347 16:11 kf wizzyrea: he is incredible patient too - if you look at the bug for late order management 16:11 oleonard How many mobile versions are we up to now? 6 or 7? 16:10 kf joubu++ .) 16:10 wizzyrea joubu++ 16:10 kf hm paul_p. hm didn't you say it broke the <order> syntax too? 16:09 kf back 16:09 kf not only searching for a bug, putting a feature bag 16:09 kf so it means finding that bit again and reconstruct 16:09 kf sekjal: that got lost in a merge 16:08 huginn 04Bug 7001: enhancement, P3, ---, srdjan, Pushed to Master , User Configurable Slips 16:08 kf sekjal: I think fixing means putting code back in here 16:08 paul_p joubu++ (http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7001#c90) 16:05 wizzyrea ^^ 16:05 sekjal if srdjan can't get to fixing it in time, perhaps then someone else would be able to find/fix the issue 16:04 kf about braking encoding and the tags? 16:04 paul_p kf good idea, will do 16:04 wizzyrea ^^ yea, this 16:04 kf paul_p: perhaps you could add what jonathan found to the bug? 16:04 wizzyrea and what to test 16:04 wizzyrea can you do one thing and make sure that srdjan knows exactly what and where to look for the problem? 16:04 kf wil try to do some tests on master 16:03 paul_p OK, it's the we for me as well in a few hours, I think it can wait for monday... 16:03 wizzyrea so he'd start on our sunday. 16:02 wizzyrea sekjal: good point, but then again it's saturday there 16:02 huginn wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. Quote #192 added. 16:02 wizzyrea @quote add sekjal: running on master is a great way to catch bugs... but then you have bugs. 16:02 sekjal wizzyrea: does Srdjan work the weekend, to you know? 16:02 wizzyrea :) 16:02 jcamins Woohoo! I got it right! 16:02 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7587 critical, P1 - high, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Wrong table name for local cover images 16:01 jcamins Bug 7587? 16:01 jcamins wizzyrea: I don't remember. 16:01 sekjal running on master is a great way to catch bugs... but then you have bugs :/ 16:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7144 enhancement, P3, ---, srdjan, Passed QA , Floating collection 16:01 jcamins Not sure what else. 16:01 paul_p wizzyrea bug 7144 16:01 wizzyrea which? 16:01 jcamins The bug I just fixed. 16:01 wizzyrea what do we have in the queue for updatedatabase? 16:00 paul_p well, I think I could let srdjan a few days before reverting. The problem being that I can't push anything that has an updatedatabase (I already did for 7408, and can't revert 7001 without reverting 7408) 15:59 wizzyrea (and very cavalier) 15:59 wizzyrea (only for the very brave!) 15:59 wizzyrea (people shouldn't be running on master!) 15:59 wizzyrea yea, my thought is that it makes it harder to fix if it's reverted 15:58 kf bye slef 15:58 kf ok, too tired 15:58 slef end of show :) 15:58 kf but if paul_p reverts... 15:58 wizzyrea yes, I'm sure srdjan would appreciate that :) 15:58 slef ok, travelling again 15:58 kf we could try to write a better bug report 15:58 kf hmm 15:56 wizzyrea or working, anyway 15:56 wizzyrea yep, srdjan won't be up 'til 5pm my time. 15:55 kf but first needs to be fixed. 15:55 wizzyrea that would be cool :) 15:55 kf I can test it 15:55 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6875] de-nesting C4 packages <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6875> 15:54 wizzyrea I've tested the thing at least 5 times now, and had librarians try to break it. This last version passed (except this acquisitions problem) 15:54 wizzyrea well someone else is going to have to look at acquisitions 15:53 kf but I tihnk srdjan will try to fix it quick 15:53 kf wizzyrea: would still be nice to have some testing time 15:53 wizzyrea I guess it doesn't matter as long as it's finished by feature freeze. 15:53 kf paul_p: yep, that sounds right 15:52 slef hdl1: good idea! 15:52 wizzyrea ^ probably 15:52 paul_p I think we've been caught in a case where a rebase had a conflict and srdjan fixed it without noticing the changes 15:52 wizzyrea well hopefully srdjan will be able to fix it up 15:51 paul_p wizzyrea joubu added a <order> tag, that has been removed. plus some utf8 handling. (Plus some refactoring). 15:50 paul_p wizzyrea = the problem is not here. the problem is that the formatting of late orders is now broken 15:50 wizzyrea missing subroutine 15:50 marcelr wizzyrea: please check on 6875; what issue was fixed for branchoverdues? 15:50 hdl1 If it is online 15:50 hdl1 you could try and look at joe ransom's slides in NZ. 15:50 kf wizzyrea: I think, perhaps not, because you can have more than one letter already - so not sure it can do this! 15:49 paul_p kf agreed, I don't want to ask for a rewrite, just not to break what's already in 15:49 kf I have not looked at this... yet. hm. 15:49 slef kf: but c2 is not a good search term. 15:49 kf wizzyrea: oh wow, good queston 15:49 slef kf: that's what I was thinking 15:49 wizzyrea perhaps that's the best route 15:49 wizzyrea kf, would you want the order slips to be configurable in the same way as the others? 15:49 kf slef: wasn't c2 what hlt used? might be on a wrong track here 15:48 kf twice as explosive 15:48 wahanui slef: huh? 15:48 slef wahanui: you suck 15:48 wahanui wish i knew, slef 15:48 slef wahanui: C2? 15:48 kf paul_p: perhaps, but would still be good to make it go in now... and do different for the future 15:48 wahanui it has been said that C4 is a high explosive :-) 15:48 slef C4? 15:48 slef kf: awwww, someone just mentioned c2 and I wondered... c2... c4... can you remember the story? 15:48 kf let him sleep 15:48 kf slef: 4:48 for him... 15:47 huginn slef: rangi was last seen in #koha 13 hours, 25 minutes, and 55 seconds ago: <rangi> ouch 15:47 slef @seen rangi 15:47 slef rangi or anyone else: know c2 or got experience getting data out of it? ;) 15:46 paul_p (in fact, this patch was too large. Should have been splitted in smaller parts) 15:46 kf will probably touch other features too? 15:46 kf the email sending part... we have to get that right 15:46 paul_p jcamins: it happends only once or twice before, and was easily fixed. Seems this one will require a larger/harder fix. 15:45 kf jcamins: I want this to go in too, but if we start adding things again that break other things... I think it's not good :( 15:45 wizzyrea it was waiting on qa since january. :( 15:45 jcamins kf: really? 15:45 kf jcamins: I think as it added a regression 15:45 kf jcamins: I don't think so 15:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7001 enhancement, P3, ---, srdjan, Pushed to Master , User Configurable Slips 15:45 paul_p wizzyrea the bug 7001 stood for a long time, and the late order patch has been pushed in january 15:45 jcamins Isn't the usual procedure here to report a new bug, and fix it, since we're well away from feature freeze? 15:45 kf that's the one 15:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5347 enhancement, P2, ---, jonathan.druart, RESOLVED FIXED, late order management 15:44 kf bug 5347 15:44 kf wizzyrea: it was, but did you test acq? :( 15:44 wizzyrea well that would not have been in there when I was testing 15:44 kf no, wrong bug number 15:44 kf hm 15:44 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7291 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , claims management improvement 15:44 kf late order management - bug 7291 15:43 kf apparently :( 15:43 kf broke late orders 15:43 marcelr reverted 15:43 marcelr mail on dev list about it 15:43 wizzyrea paul_p: what was up with 7001? 15:42 kf i think that will work 15:42 kf crate 15:42 kf make it a cat create 15:42 kf lol 15:41 jcamins lol 15:40 * jcamins folds up pretty small. 15:40 oleonard If he had his papers I could put him in a dog crate 15:40 kf oleonard: could you pack jcamins in your luggage? 15:39 oleonard A week from today 15:39 jcamins oleonard: when are you leaving? 15:39 * magnus_afk takes the dogs for a walk 15:38 asaurat you can bring beef jerky or root beer ;) 15:38 magnus_afk oleonard: awww... 15:38 * oleonard suspects no one wants him to bring any American chocolate... 15:37 kf reiveune: lol 15:37 reiveune :) 15:37 reiveune kf: I promise, I will leave one (or two) for you 15:37 paul_p I just choose the week where the norway librarians association has his yearly conference 15:37 * jcamins is disappointed that he can't come. :( 15:36 kf oleonard: I am too :( 15:36 oleonard Oh, somehow I had it in my head that magnuse was coming. Now I'm disappointed. 15:36 kf I am still wondering what I could bring :) 15:36 kf magnuse++ .) 15:35 asaurat lolll 15:35 kf ;) 15:35 hdl1 we'll keep some for you. 15:35 * kf thinks about stephane 15:35 kf and you think it will survive until I get there? 15:34 paul_p nope, but he sent us some chocolate ;-) 15:34 kf ooh 15:34 hdl1 But sent chocolate. 15:34 kf oh 15:34 hdl1 nope. 15:34 kf magnuse decided to come to the hackfest after all? 15:34 kf hm? 15:33 paul_p kf : we just recieved something from norway, that you should enjoy ;-) 15:33 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: bug 7408 follow-up fixing trailing ` <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=497e0054b7ac958ca2e70de7a12148671fa1dddd> / Bug 7408 - Don't cancel found reserves. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4fc6759d0c3ce4e0d936db6a9b728ef1125a2717> / bug 7408 follow-up DBRev number <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b32c38f9f10e0e2ad6eff5c044a520a14f9 15:32 paul_p magnuse++ 15:32 jenkins_koha Starting build #651 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #644 1 j 23 h ago) 15:30 asaurat probably, I'll check this 15:29 kf but shoudl be asked, you are right 15:29 kf I have not checked how it looks in the database 15:29 kf not sure, perhaps asked 15:29 asaurat empty ? 15:29 kf only after saving for the first time 15:28 kf because I can't set a status when creating a sugg 15:28 kf asaurat: I think I would comfortable with managed for sugg that have another status than asked or empty 15:28 kf asaurat: yes... I think I was thinking of it like that 15:28 wizzyrea well it's kyleh's feature. It works pretty well afaict 15:28 asaurat well, its seems logical to consider that Managed by would be some kind of "Modified by" 15:28 wizzyrea oh, well, um, thank you. :) 15:27 kf testing the clubs thing 15:27 kf wizzyrea: besides being awesome? :) 15:27 wizzyrea ! what did I do? 15:27 kf asaurat: and when we want that to be recorded 15:27 asaurat I just don't know this part well yet =) 15:27 kf asaurat: I think the main question is: what does managed by mean? 15:27 kf asaurat: sorry for being confusing on the managed by bug 15:26 kf wizzyrea++ 15:25 asaurat boss battle against the letter Z, if its value is tripled that means a quick "game over" 15:23 oleonard a 3D first person shooter version of Scrabble maybe? 15:21 asaurat and dual boot Ubuntu for serious stuff and open source games ;) 15:20 asaurat enough for a 3D Scrabble I guess =) 15:20 asaurat XP still supports good and maintained versions of DirectX, maybe not the latest but well... good enough for me :p 15:19 jcamins wizzyrea: true. Scrabble works on pretty much any OS. :) 15:18 wizzyrea no reason to 15:18 wizzyrea i haven't booted it in a month or so. 15:18 wizzyrea ^.^ 15:18 jcamins wizzyrea: I play online scrabble... that's about it. ;) 15:18 wizzyrea XP was really quite good for a while 15:17 asaurat XP is to me the least horrible Windows =) 15:17 wizzyrea at least dual booting it can take advantage of the killer video card in there (even ubuntu can't do that [yet]) 15:17 maximep well of course 15:17 asaurat XP is better than 98 15:17 maximep 98 is better than ME 15:17 wizzyrea can't really play games in a VM though 15:17 wizzyrea there is that 15:17 wizzyrea well yes 15:17 oleonard Win7 is certainly better than Windows ME! 15:17 wizzyrea I probably could yea 15:16 jcamins That'd be useful. 15:16 jcamins wizzyrea: can you transfer the license into a VM? 15:16 maximep I should look at win8 15:16 maximep never used win7. Looks better 15:16 wizzyrea Don't use it. Windows is annoying. 15:16 * wizzyrea has a win7 license that came with her laptop. But meh. 15:15 jcamins maximep: you poor, poor thing. 15:15 maximep only windows I have a license is windows ME :p 15:15 maximep same for kde 15:15 maximep well, on windows you just shutdown all unused services 15:14 jcamins maximep: KDE optimised for low RAM... is that like optimising a Windows ME computer for low power consumption? (i.e. turn it off;) 15:13 magnuse is there a way to tell the translate script to ignore a piece of xslt? 15:13 magnuse gah, translation fail! the and on this line is supposed to combine subjects, but gets translated into norwegian "og": http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/prog/en/xslt/MARC21slim2OPACDetail.xsl;h=13812f0978720cf11067ded33ddd368839c18507;hb=HEAD#l476 15:13 maximep hmmm but my KDE is optimised for low ram usage 15:12 kf marcelr: sorry, not sure I understand :( 15:11 maximep heh, my virtualbox is set to 2.5 gigs 15:11 kf oleonard++ 15:11 wizzyrea Run NExpress. :P 15:11 jcamins Run three VMs, each with 2GB of RAM. 15:11 jcamins Easy peasy. 15:11 jcamins maximep: you want to use up 8GB of RAM? 15:10 maximep I wish I found some way to use my 8 gigs 15:10 jcamins xmonad ftw! 15:10 maximep really ? 1.4 gigs KDE/Gentoo here and firefox, opera and amarok are open :S 15:09 mbalmer I know. But still. 15:09 jcamins mbalmer: KDE depends on QT. 15:09 wizzyrea just guessing but I imagine ubuntu is the same or more. 15:09 mbalmer crazy, debian with a KDE desktop uses almost 2 GB of RAM 15:07 wizzyrea oh, you're welcome :) 15:07 marcelr hi jcamins 15:07 jcamins_away o/ 15:06 marcelr thx for signoff on 7661 15:05 marcelr hi wizzyrea 15:05 paul_p hi wizzyrea 15:05 paul_p that's where I was misunderstanding ! 15:05 * wizzyrea waves 15:05 paul_p expired reserve = reserve with an expiry date set, not reserve that are waiting for too long. The expiry date being set optionnally by the patron !!! 15:03 marcelr good 15:03 paul_p oh ! I think I just got it now ! 15:03 marcelr r 15:03 marcelr you could still do it but just put it in a xslt paramete 15:02 marcelr if crosswalk= marc->unimarc then yes 15:02 kf separate sru from the crosswalk? 15:00 sekjal hi, marcelr 15:00 sekjal k, will check 15:00 marcelr hi sekjal 15:00 paul_p sekjal comment/question on the bug in a few seconds 15:00 marcelr get the marc conversion out of it 15:00 sekjal paul_p: what's the issue with 7408? 14:59 marcelr i think i will split it up 14:59 kf where is it stuck? do you want me to bribe someone with chocolate in marseille? 14:59 kf I am really interested to be able to use xslt to fix some known problems 14:59 marcelr not really 14:59 kf marcelr: any news about your cool sru feature? 14:59 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7408 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha.sekjal, Passed QA , Expire holds that have been waiting too long 14:59 kf bug 7408 14:58 marcelr what is your doubt? 14:57 paul_p (investigating but 7408 atm, and still not sure i'll push it...) 14:57 marcelr you know i keep doing so :-) 14:57 paul_p marcelr I QA the 7310 if you QA some Biblibre patches ;-) 14:55 kf oleonard++ 14:54 marcelr paul_p: still some time for finishing the qa on 7310? it still applies with one trivial merge conflict on sysprefs.sql 14:53 marcelr paul_p: you almost emptied the Passed QA list! 14:49 janPasi it doesn't update the index as it should 14:49 janPasi hmm... the cronjob in debian doesn't seem to run zebra properly 14:47 * mbalmer knows he is not being helpful right now 14:47 kf not if the customers asks for it to work in ie 14:47 mbalmer .. but ignore you can them 14:46 kf mbalmer: yes... but you can't control users sadly 14:46 kf pm'd you the url 14:46 mbalmer friends don't let friends use IE.. 14:46 kf thx a lot! 14:46 oleonard I'd be happy to try 14:45 kf oleonard: could you perhaps help me out a little bit? 14:45 oleonard It's all in the URL really. 14:45 oleonard Speaking of IE: https://www.zdnet.com/blog/security/pwn2own-2012-ie-9-hacked-with-two-0day-vulnerabilities/10621 14:45 oleonard Yes 14:43 mbalmer on my laptop plus remote. remote if I need help from my librarians... 14:43 hdl1 we have some virtual machines. 14:43 kf oleonard: around? 14:43 mbalmer I think I will use both a bit 14:42 hdl1 mbalmer: remote koha installation 14:42 kf mbalmer: I have one on my laptop, can work in thte train and everywhere, without needing internet connection 14:42 jenkins_koha marc: Remove a merge marker. 14:42 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #650: STILL UNSTABLE in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/650/ 14:42 kf I have no idea how to debug this stupid thing 14:42 mbalmer marseille question: do most people work in Koha on their laptops or access remote Koha installations? 14:42 kf it still works perfectly in firefox 14:42 * kf wants to cry 14:42 kf broke my whole layout 14:41 kf ie-- 14:41 kf meh 14:41 kf :) 14:41 kf hdl1: thx 14:41 hdl1 kf: checked status has been asked by SAN Ouest provence, just to state that the suggestion contains enough information to try and ask for the book. 14:41 mbalmer to little time, to much perl 14:40 * mbalmer has to many ideas 14:37 mbalmer you can talk to these printers via tcp 14:37 kf mbalmer: there are some nice options for label printing in koha that you can activate in the sysprefs 14:37 mbalmer we have intermec label printers here in the lab 14:37 oleonard That was for Unix printers, not sure if that's the same thing 14:37 kf I think there used to be a field on branches and on the "set library" screen 14:37 * sekjal is excited about the possibility of a touch-gesture enabled Shelf Browser for mobile OPACs 14:37 mbalmer ah ;) 14:36 kf once 14:36 mbalmer noce? 14:36 kf there are still some traces... perhaps you will want to clean that up 14:36 kf mbalmer: I think there was noce code for network printers 14:35 mbalmer so the perl code would talk directly to the printers via tcp/ip 14:35 mbalmer I am thinking of adding support for network receipt printers and network label printers (for media barcode labels) 14:33 magnuse kia ora sekjal 14:33 kf morning sekjal :) 14:33 sekjal morning, #koha 14:33 kf hehe 14:30 * magnuse volunteers to sign off on any patches implementing a Chocolate user interface! 14:24 mbalmer we still need a nice logo, though. 14:23 mbalmer (Chocolate user interface, holes in the cheese, watches, etc.. ;) 14:23 mbalmer so Koha needs to be swissified a bit. 14:22 mbalmer and I hope many patches will come in the future, because we started our "operations" in switzerland for real. 14:15 magnuse never mind then 14:15 magnuse ah yes, number 167 14:14 kf magnuse: he is already listed I think :) 14:14 magnuse mbalmer: is that your first patch that makes it into koha? 14:10 magnuse ah, no clue then 14:08 kf hm no, suggestion moduel in acq :) 14:08 magnuse kf: where? bz? 14:06 kf the status Checked for suggestions... what is it made for? 14:06 kf hmm 14:02 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Remove a merge marker. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6846bdb51953d236d5baf341ce3624887ea7ee53> 14:02 jenkins_koha Starting build #650 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #644 1 j 21 h ago) 14:00 kf probably no really fail safe way to do it 13:57 kf paul_p: that's the general problem with big changes... we have to find ways to do them... but have to be very careful :( 13:55 paul_p kf I don't know, we will see. But i'm ready to revert 7001 if we can't find a volunteer ! 13:55 kf paul_p: will Jonathan fix the lateorders or waiting for srdjan? (I spent a lot of time testing this feature... hate to see it broken) 13:54 kf gives us some time 13:54 kf good to see the big things going in now - better than later 13:54 kf cool :) 13:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7144 enhancement, P3, ---, srdjan, Passed QA , Floating collection 13:53 paul_p and going back to bug 7144 13:53 mbalmer gracias! 13:53 kf mbalmer++ paul_p++ 13:52 paul_p pushed ! 13:52 kf ah ok :) 13:52 paul_p push on the way... 13:52 paul_p kf he send it to me directly. 13:52 mbalmer paul_p: grrrr... mbalmer, send me the patch, i'll push it immediatly 13:52 mbalmer kf, directly to paul's biblibre address, as he told me to 13:51 mbalmer if you don't play with git all day, you immediately forget all about it, need to refresh my brain a bit, I guess 13:51 kf mbalmer: where did you sent it? 13:49 paul_p ) 13:49 paul_p (I mean it was detected and announced, but the patch can be commited though 13:49 mbalmer paul_p, sent 13:49 paul_p mmm... it's already here, but non blocking. /me move to blocking test.. 13:49 * kf hands paul_p chocolate 13:48 paul_p & /me will improve his pre-commit hook... 13:48 mbalmer one second... 13:47 paul_p grrrr... mbalmer, send me the patch, i'll push it immediatly 13:47 mbalmer s/can push/should push asap/ ;) 13:47 mbalmer okidoki. 13:47 kf http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blobdiff;f=installer/data/mysql/sysprefs.sql;h=12ee2b718de507482917c357bdfeca55998b97af;hp=bda97f516d99cf3d204d024ff292b52af8577b5e;hb=a9ded4fa008668df8c485fbbc76efa3cc9cc00d7;hpb=e32e3ba66269186729be6a4eda319a9f7c84072d 13:47 paul_p really ? yikes ... 13:47 kf mbalmer is sending a patch you can push 13:47 kf paul_p: there is a merge mistake in sysprefs.sql 13:46 kf you could just have deleted the sign-off line ;) 13:46 kf and delete the lines 13:46 kf git commit --amend 13:46 mbalmer I put a comment: "accidentally signed off" ;) 13:46 paul_p kf yes ? 13:46 mbalmer so how do I remove my "signed off"? 13:46 kf paul_p might pick and push it without requiring sign-off or qa 13:46 kf but it's trivial 13:45 kf and you shoudl always test code you authored 13:45 kf writing and signing off makes no sense, it might be trivial enough 13:45 kf just send it without sign-off 13:45 kf don't sign it 13:45 kf hm no 13:45 mbalmer since this one is trivial, I even signed it off (also, because I tested it) 13:45 chris_n jcamins: nm, I just did it 13:44 mbalmer ah format-patch ! 13:44 kf git format-patch origin/master I think 13:44 kf git commit 13:44 kf git add 13:44 kf for now 13:44 kf but 13:44 kf mbalmer: it will really save you lots of trouble to check out git bz 13:43 chris_n most of the time my minute account is in arrears 13:43 * magnuse is probably confusing mbalmer with someone else... bever mind 13:43 magnuse swiss time, eh? 13:43 chris_n truth 13:42 mbalmer here, minutes are rare ;) 13:42 chris_n jcamins: has anyone asked them to contribute? 13:41 * magnuse just added git bz to a vm - took about 1 minute 13:41 mbalmer yeah, I will got through that as soon as I have time. For now I just liked to create a diff against the master branch from the bug branch where committed the syspref fix. 13:40 magnuse git-bz++ 13:38 kf mbalmer: make sure you have your email settings and things correctlsy 13:37 kf so git bz is the magic you want to use 13:37 kf and you still have to attach the file to bugzilla 13:37 magnuse http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Git_bz_configuration 13:37 kf you can do: git add , git commit, git format-patch, git send-email... but that#s a lot of things tod o 13:37 magnuse http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git 13:37 kf when you don't have git bz 13:37 kf you sould get git bz 13:37 kf hm 13:37 mbalmer errm, I commit to my "bug" branch, then some magic git command will create the patch file, roght? 13:36 kf bug 7001 13:36 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7001 enhancement, P3, ---, srdjan, Pushed to Master , User Configurable Slips 13:36 magnuse bug 7001 13:36 kf because that's what caused the problem 13:36 kf for the slip printing 13:36 kf I would do it as a follow up 13:35 mbalmer so where do I put that patch? 13:35 mbalmer no it installed nicely. 13:35 magnuse kf: if you use .git/info/exclude you don't have to track .gitignore in git :-) 13:31 kf ah, modified po files? 13:30 kf mbalmer: what only works for new files? 13:30 kf I think I woudl make it a follow up 13:29 mbalmer anyway, I fixed that sysprefs sql. is that worth a Bug in gnats? 13:29 mbalmer but that only works for new files, not for modified ones. 13:25 kf it's easier than comitting them and keeps them from showing up and annoying me 13:24 kf i sometimes use a .gitignore file 13:24 mbalmer ah, ok. 13:24 kf yep 13:24 kf or tell git to ignore them 13:24 mbalmer no, the german files the translator created. 13:24 kf you have to commit the files 13:24 kf mbalmer: after you did the trnaslation 13:23 kf all the files or only the german files 13:23 kf hm 13:21 mbalmer now git status shows me all that files in the vnode branch 13:20 mbalmer then checked out master again. 13:20 mbalmer checked out master, created a vnode branch. updated and installed the german translation there. 13:20 mbalmer I think I have a git problem, though: 13:18 kf drop database xxx , create database xxx and run the webinstaller again 13:18 kf or if you just started 13:18 kf perhaps 13:18 kf truncate the table and run the sql file manually 13:18 kf hm 13:17 mbalmer so how can clear my current installation, do again get the webinstaller? 13:17 mbalmer hmm, it sopped. 13:16 mbalmer I wonder if the installer stopped there or if mysql continued on the next line 13:15 mbalmer yeah, looks so. 13:14 kf would be safe to just remove 13:14 kf http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blobdiff;f=installer/data/mysql/sysprefs.sql;h=12ee2b718de507482917c357bdfeca55998b97af;hp=bda97f516d99cf3d204d024ff292b52af8577b5e;hb=a9ded4fa008668df8c485fbbc76efa3cc9cc00d7;hpb=e32e3ba66269186729be6a4eda319a9f7c84072d 13:14 mbalmer kf, you only notice the problem when doing a fresh install 13:13 mbalmer how I can I "clear" an existing installation, so that I can re-install it after the bug is fixed? 13:13 kf I think it probably happened when adding the new slip feature 13:13 mbalmer maybe he/she removed sth else? 13:13 mbalmer the one who did it should do it, to be safe 13:12 mbalmer kf, no, because I don't know if sth is missing around there. 13:12 jcamins_away Thanks! 13:12 magnuse good luck jcamins_away 13:12 kf jcamins: have fun :) 13:12 magnuse http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=installer/data/mysql/sysprefs.sql;h=12ee2b718de507482917c357bdfeca55998b97af;hb=HEAD#l337 13:12 jcamins Okay, time to go over to the new apartment again, and see what the contractors are up to. 13:12 kf mbalmer: could you send a patch to fix it? 13:12 kf I updated yesterday I think 13:12 kf must be fairly recent 13:12 mbalmer yeah 13:11 jcamins Merge marker. 13:11 mbalmer looks like a conflict not properly solved 13:11 kf merge error 13:11 jcamins Ouch! 13:11 mbalmer >>>>>> kc/master 13:11 mbalmer the line reads: 13:11 jcamins chris_n: if only it were open source. 13:11 kf which pref? 13:11 kf not good 13:11 kf oh 13:11 mbalmer at least that is what the online installer said 13:11 mbalmer I think MySQL sysprefs.sql contains a syntax error in line 337 13:09 magnuse mbalmer: yay! 13:07 chris_n very cool: http://iphonetester.com/?url=http://mopac.mysore-univ.org/ 13:00 mbalmer server works now. \o/ 12:53 vfernandes :/ didn't show the reindex output :/ 12:43 vfernandes i will try 12:43 jcamins vfernandes: add a second -v 12:43 vfernandes but the reindex zebra log does not shows in the file 12:42 jcamins That's a good idea. 12:42 vfernandes i'm doing -v on the crontab command and redirecting the output to file 12:42 jcamins Unfortunately, there is no log. 12:42 jcamins vfernandes: you can add a -v (or two, or three) to the crontab. 12:41 vfernandes the output of the script is correctly "Records exported: 0 .^M1 Records exported: 1"... so the problem should be in the indexation 12:40 jcamins vfernandes: you should get e-mailed the output. 12:39 vfernandes using the crontab the record is not indexed.... 12:39 mbalmer grr, "The requested URL / was not found on this server" 12:39 vfernandes in the command line everything works fine 12:39 vfernandes when running in the crontab the scripts runs but the new records is not indexed... when running the same command in the shell it works fine and the record is indexed 12:38 jcamins Run it from the command line and see what error messages you get. 12:37 vfernandes i'm having a problem with rebuild zebra 12:37 jcamins vfernandes: there is no log. 12:37 vfernandes i've having a problem with cronjobs 12:36 vfernandes ? 12:36 vfernandes where i can find zebra indexation log 12:31 mbalmer just the web page does not yet show up 12:24 mbalmer almost there... 12:24 mbalmer I am installing from git on a development server right now. 12:22 magnuse hopefully, but can't promise 12:20 kf ? 12:20 kf magnuse: will you be around sometimeon the weekendß 12:20 kf yeah, good plan ;) 12:20 jcamins mbalmer: might be a good idea. 12:20 magnuse mbalmer: sounds like a good idea :-) 12:20 mbalmer hmm, need to install koha on my laptop _before_ marseill… ;) 12:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7001 enhancement, P3, ---, srdjan, Pushed to Master , User Configurable Slips 12:18 Amit_Gupta * paul.poulain: bug 7001 follow-up for DBRev 12:18 Amit_Gupta heya jwagner 11:57 jcamins I don't know for sure that it shows up at all, though. 11:57 jcamins You could take a look at UNIMARC2OPACDetail.xsl. 11:56 vfernandes i need to know which subfield i need to fill in order to the linkage appear on the OPAC 11:55 wahanui unimarc is http://www.ifla.org/en/publications/unimarc-formats-and-related-documentation 11:55 jcamins unimarc? 11:55 jcamins I have no idea, sorry. 11:54 vfernandes where i can find more info about this? 11:54 vfernandes :) 11:53 jcamins To be honest, I'm impressed that I even know that it uses 461. ;) 11:53 jcamins vfernandes: I have no idea, sorry. 11:53 vfernandes yes i know that's using 461... but how it works 11:52 jcamins vfernandes: it involves the 461. 11:52 vfernandes guys anyone knows how to do analytic linkage in UNIMARC? 11:44 magnuse yeah, too bad 11:42 jcamins magnuse: I would've have thought so, but what do I know? SMFPL released their code, but there are, what, four other libraries who did it and are not releasing their code? 11:41 dgl-library magnuse: yeah, I've been mulling over that same thought exactly 11:41 magnuse jcamins: hm, eny reason why that should be hard than funding an open source ils? 11:41 magnuse dgl-library: trouble is, if those two tables are empty, who knows what other tables are empty? 11:40 jcamins magnuse: unfortunately, *open source* mobile interfaces would seem to be something that are hard to get funded. 11:40 dgl-library (fearing the worst) 11:40 dgl-library ugh. well anyway I've been working on that option in the background already. 11:38 magnuse i think mtj's advice migh be better than mine - to start over from scratch 11:38 dgl-library magnuse: no problem, so was I. anyway, we were about to try and see if we could hack those user permissions manually in mysql 11:37 magnuse jcamins: we better start building a proper one, eh? 11:37 magnuse dgl-library: sorry, i was away for a bit 11:33 dgl-library2 magnuse: ? 11:33 jcamins Oh look... there is another non-open source mobile interface for Koha. 11:30 jcamins (7001) 11:29 jcamins Yay! 11:27 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7001 enhancement, P3, ---, srdjan, Pushed to Master , User Configurable Slips 11:27 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: bug 7001 follow-up for DBRev 11:27 jenkins_koha * srdjan: bug_7001: Issue and Reserve slips are notices. 11:27 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #649: STILL UNSTABLE in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/649/ 11:19 Amit_Gupta heya magnuse 11:13 dgl-library magnuse: are you still here? 10:58 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5668] Star ratings in the opac <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5668> 10:54 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: bug 7001 follow-up for DBRev <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d56a693d844a1e64fc47b1f4b5ac82e0283f6493> / bug_7001: Issue and Reserve slips are notices. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a9ded4fa008668df8c485fbbc76efa3cc9cc00d7> 10:51 vfernandes one little question: i'm using bulkmarcimport to migrate biblio records... the 001 shouldn't be filled with the biblio.biblionumber? Using unimarc... 10:50 vfernandes hi guys :) 10:46 jenkins_koha Starting build #649 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #644 1 j 18 h ago) 10:43 kf authority matching, slips, nice acq enhancements 10:43 kf 3.8 is going to be great :) 10:41 kf nice big improvement 10:34 kf woot :) 10:34 magnuse yay! 10:31 paul_p pousse master 10:31 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7001 enhancement, P3, ---, srdjan, Passed QA , User Configurable Slips 10:31 paul_p OK, i'm pushing bug 7001... and call for large tests ! 10:17 dgl-library sorry, connectivity problems here. will be logging off again for a short time and then I'll be back. 09:38 mtj if things go wrong... just reload you backup .sql dump again 09:37 mtj and try the install again... perhaps you will have more success this time? :) 09:36 mtj the easy fix, is to start again, from a working state 09:36 mtj dgl_library: if you are missing user_flags and permissions table-data, you will probably be missing other data too :/ 09:34 mtj dgl_library: something has gone wrong with your install... i would just start again - from a known, unconfigured point 09:33 mtj ... and practice installing your 'un-configured' Koha 09:33 kf paul_p: not much time anyway, and lots of things to test 09:32 mtj take a mysqldump before the install 09:31 mtj dgl_library: i woud simply start again, with a fresh VM 09:29 kf paul_p: I think the release date was well known - and we really need 2 weeks for translation and 2 weeks to find evil bugs. 09:27 paul_p kf thx ;-) 09:27 kf paul_p but guess there are more reasons when I think about it :) 09:27 magnuse oh and did you actually run the webinstaller, or was that already done for you? 09:27 kf paul_p: mail on the list 09:27 magnuse i'm trying to find a good source for the sql files that should have been loaded by the web-installer 09:26 magnuse try "ls /home/koha" 09:25 dgl_library koha koha-console 09:24 dgl_library ls 09:24 dgl_library cd /home 09:24 dgl_library aha 09:24 magnuse hmpf :-) 09:24 dgl_library ls is blank except for an sql dump I saved there 09:24 paul_p kf why ++ ? 09:24 magnuse ok, what does "ls" show you there? 09:24 dgl_library sorry, it's /home/koha-console 09:23 dgl_library /home/kohaconsole 09:23 magnuse then "pwd" again 09:22 dgl_library koha-console@koha:~$ 09:22 magnuse ok' 09:22 dgl_library I will quit that 09:22 dgl_library that starts something called the "koha management console" 09:21 dgl_library k 09:21 dgl_library unknown id: "kohaadmin" 09:21 magnuse ok "su koha-console" then 09:21 dgl_library the user is called koha-console 09:21 magnuse try "su kohaadmin" 09:21 magnuse oh? 09:20 dgl_library yes 09:20 dgl_library the search yielded lots of results 09:20 magnuse called "koha" or something? 09:20 wahanui well, kohaadmin is the db user 09:20 dgl_library yes, kohaadmin 09:20 dgl_library I logged in as root a while ago 09:20 magnuse is there another user on the virtual machine? 09:20 magnuse hm, you're logged in as root 09:19 dgl_library that's not the normal koha user, though… shall I reboot and start again? 09:19 magnuse ok, try "sudo find / -name "userflags.sql" 09:19 dgl_library magnuse: /root 09:19 magnuse try "pwd"? 09:18 dgl_library "ls" is empty except for 2 sql files I've dumped 09:18 kf paul_p++ 09:18 dgl_library and then… 09:18 dgl_library command line: after doing "sudo -i" I see: root@koha:~# …… 09:17 dgl_library bywater meaning of the "other" koha? because I contacted him before and he said it's the koha-community version 09:17 paul_p hi all (wifi connection crazy today...) 09:16 kf Oak: sure 09:16 Oak and luisb 09:16 Oak Hello paul_p 09:16 Oak and welcome back. 09:16 magnuse is there a directory called "kohaclone" or something similar? 09:16 Oak kf, i know you are at work, but can I take your 5 minutes? need to ask one silly question? 09:15 mtj kyle.h from bywater did those, afaik 09:15 magnuse when you are on the command line, after logging in to the virtual machine, what do you see if you type "ls"? 09:15 mtj yeah, me neither.... 09:14 magnuse hm, i don't know exactly how that is put together 09:14 magnuse ah, ok 09:14 magnuse and how did you "get" koha - packages, archive, git? 09:14 dgl_library no - I decided to go the "simple" way and use the Koha Virtual Appliance (Unconfigured version), which is Koha (English) on debian 09:12 magnuse did you do an "ordinary" english installation? 09:12 magnuse dgl_library: let me check... 09:12 kf h magnuse :) 09:12 magnuse guten tag kf 09:11 dgl_library or……? 09:11 dgl_library can I fix that manually? 09:11 dgl_library hmm! 09:11 dgl_library is empty too 09:11 magnuse that table did not get filled when you ran the web installer 09:11 dgl_library select * from permissions; 09:11 magnuse ok, that's your problem, then 09:11 dgl_library yields an empty set 09:11 dgl_library select * from userflags; 09:10 dgl_library ok 09:10 magnuse replace <kohadbuser> and <kohadb> with the choices you made when you created the database 09:09 dgl_library I mean, how do I open the right database from the command line. 09:09 magnuse mysql -u <kohadbuser> -p <kohadb> 09:09 magnuse ah, log in to mysql from the command line 09:08 dgl_library magnuse: sorry, how do I start? 09:08 dgl_library ok, will try now 08:58 magnuse and "select * from permissions;" 08:57 magnuse try "select * from userflags;" 08:56 dgl_library I also downloaded the full database dump and can read it in a text editor 08:55 magnuse let's see if we can figure out some sql then 08:54 dgl_library yes 08:54 magnuse can you log in to mysql from the command line? 08:54 dgl_library I was hoping there might be a database expert here 08:53 dgl_library I can't really tell what's what in the database 08:53 magnuse very weird 08:53 magnuse have you checked if there is anything in the database table that holds the privileges? 08:53 dgl_library weird, eh? 08:53 dgl_library Both the button and the link take me back to the previous screen. 08:52 dgl_library And there is a button that says "Set Flags" and a Cancel link ---- nothing else 08:52 dgl_library The screen says "Set Privileges for Smith, John" 08:52 dgl_library I can create a patron of type staff. then I go to that user's details screen. More > Set Permissions 08:51 magnuse dgl_library: and you have tried dropping and re-creating your database? 08:51 mtj ah, ok... :/ 08:51 mtj s/the/then/ 08:51 mtj the log-in as that user 08:51 dgl_library just can't give them privileges 08:51 mtj so create a patron/user... give it super privs? 08:50 dgl_library yes 08:50 magnuse i think you already said you can create patrons? 08:50 mtj dgl_library: user and patron are the same thing 08:49 dgl_library what's the URL for creating users? I'll see if I can access it directly 08:49 magnuse weird 08:49 dgl_library correct. 08:49 dgl_library but I can't see any option to create users. 08:49 magnuse but i guess you can't give anyone any privileges? 08:48 dgl_library I can create Patrons of type Staff 08:48 magnuse i was thinking about creating a new Koha-user of type Staff, with superlibrarian privileges 08:46 dgl_library magnuse: sorry, I was away. are you saying creating a new Patron or a new user? 08:24 francharb ;) 08:22 magnuse bonjour france 08:20 wahanui bonjour, clrh 08:20 clrh hello 08:17 Oak Bonjour francharb 08:16 francharb ;) 08:16 francharb hello world 08:11 mtj try adding a new user, then give that user super-privs? 08:10 mtj ... and give that user 'super-user' privs 08:10 magnuse and because of that you can't create a regular user and give it superlibrarian privileges? 08:10 mtj dgl_library: create a new user, in koha 08:09 magnuse ah 08:09 dgl_library so maybe kohaadmin somehow doesn't have sufficient access privileges or something like that? 08:08 dgl_library magnuse: my installation is somehow faulty (and wizzyrea thought it might be the privileges)… when logged in as kohaadmin, if I go to the Home screen, there's no link under Cataloging except Authorities. nothing about adding items. and on the Patrons screen, when editing a particular patron, if I go to More > Set Permissions, there are no permissions to set. 08:06 magnuse dgl_library: what kind of privileges are you thinking of? 08:04 dgl_library is there anyone online at the moment who knows how to manually fix user privileges for kohaadmin? 07:58 wahanui privet, julian_m 07:58 julian_m hello 07:50 Oak hola reiveune 07:50 reiveune hello 07:49 Oak was busy with exams... 07:49 Oak :) 07:49 magnuse long time no see! 07:47 magnuse Oak 07:47 Oak magnuse 07:44 magnuse kia ora #koha! 07:12 alex_a :) 07:12 sturmtruppen sorry, wrong monitor... i really need coffe! 07:11 sturmtruppen ls 07:11 alex_a morning cait and sturmtruppen 07:11 alex_a sturmtruppen: coffe, good idea 07:10 sturmtruppen cait: i need a coffe first 07:09 sturmtruppen morning alex_a 07:09 cait morning alex_a 07:09 cait sturmtruppen: you will get there - I am onl ynot really awake yet 07:06 alex_a bonjour 07:01 sturmtruppen then 07:00 sturmtruppen i'm newbie. first thing learn how to customize koha working. than try to apply what i've learned 07:00 cait sorry, have to get ready for work 07:00 cait after you did the git clone 07:00 cait it's not really different to other install methods 06:59 cait if you want to develop or have local customizations git is good 06:59 sturmtruppen because i used git with OpenFOAM and was a good way to learn. Here i hope it's the same 06:58 cait I think you decided to go with igt because oyu want to change things possibly? 06:58 cait and select a dev install 06:58 cait you run the makefile 06:57 sturmtruppen http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.4_on_Debian_Squeeze_(Git_Method) 06:57 cait after you did the git clone 06:57 cait ah ok 06:57 sturmtruppen git has just finished 06:57 sturmtruppen i removed the installation, i'm starting again from scratch this morning 06:56 cait ok, so you have koha running but you need to get searchworking? 06:56 sturmtruppen cait: yes, already done the previously installation. 06:55 dgl_library afk … lunch 06:55 dgl_library nope 06:55 cait sturmtruppen: you did run the web installer? 06:55 sturmtruppen dgl_library: do you the comic "sturmtruppen"? 06:55 dgl_library afk 06:54 cait sturmtruppen: sorry not really here yet 06:54 sturmtruppen already followed, but there is no part about zebrasrv... 06:53 dgl_library anyway… hi everyone, I was on here about 18 hours ago asking about problems with my Koha installation. it seems the problem was that the superuser "kohaadmin" doesn't have proper privileges and so can't do everything it's supposed to do. I wonder if anyone knows of a way to manually fix kohaadmin's privileges in the database? 06:53 dgl_library you'll need to copy the bit in parenthesis as well 06:53 cait that looks good 06:53 dgl_library sturmtruppen (horrible name, btw), is this what you're looking for? http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.4_on_Debian_Squeeze_(Git_Method) 06:52 cait sturmtruppen: sorry, not really here yet 06:52 cait sturmtruppen: hm 06:36 sturmtruppen do you know where i can found a git guide to installation of koha? 06:36 cait most of the times the problems i had were permissions 06:36 cait perhaps 06:34 sturmtruppen by root...seem to be in a kinder garden... 06:34 sturmtruppen i installed by root...maybe is that the problem? 06:33 cait all zebra files should be owned by the user who owns the koha files 06:33 cait permissions? 06:33 cait I am not sure 06:32 cait hmm 06:32 sturmtruppen zebra.cfg not found 06:32 sturmtruppen not starting 06:32 cait ? 06:32 wahanui i guess the problem is its human beings doing it 06:32 cait what is the problem 06:31 sturmtruppen i decided to use git installation, but i have problem with zebrasrv 06:30 cait morning sturmtruppen 06:30 sturmtruppen morning cait 06:29 cait good morning #koha 06:22 sturmtruppen :) 06:22 sturmtruppen thanks 06:21 Oak i'll bring the bugle 06:19 sturmtruppen back again to fight vs zebrasrv... and i gonna lose! 06:15 sturmtruppen hi eythian, hi everyone 03:50 mtj i assume the problem is with many *nested* .tt directives in a single html element ? 03:49 mtj hmm, looking at some existing .tt files - my hunch is that simple .tt directives are ok in html elements 03:48 mtj . 03:45 mtj i really hope to be "proven" wrong here :p 03:44 mtj so... is prove correct here, or incorrect? 03:43 mtj yet, 'prove xt' passes the code with a success ?!? 03:43 mtj see.. i would have thought 'not' - as it has a .tt directive embedded in an html element 03:42 mtj <form name="tagform[% SEARCH_RESULT.biblionumber %]" method="post" action="/cgi-bin/koha/opac-tags.pl"> 03:41 mtj is this an acceptable bit of template code...? 03:41 mtj hi all.. i have a .tt / translate question... 02:51 druthb o/ 02:24 eythian nothing should depend on X, but things requiring xorg-common is pretty common if it needs font handling stuff to produce PDFs or whatever. 02:24 eythian X or xorg-common? 02:22 rangi ouch 02:19 jcamins I have to install X to *build* DSpace? 02:11 rangi ill have a think i think i can get a zebra running and then have the tests hit it 02:11 jcamins Yeah... not suitable. 02:11 rangi because there are 80k biblio etc 02:11 jcamins Yeah, that's an issue. 02:11 jcamins Right. 02:10 jcamins Ohh. 02:10 rangi and to reindex each time takes too long 02:10 jcamins Hm. That should work properly, then. 02:10 rangi and in doing so, trashes our indexes 02:10 rangi it tests the whole install process, not just the unit tests 02:10 jcamins Hm. 02:09 rangi it does a full make 02:09 rangi ill have to think up a new plan 02:09 rangi naw the build trashes the indexes 02:09 jcamins rangi: reindex didn't fix it? 02:01 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded. 02:01 rangi @later tell nengard http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/6/console 01:57 Shane-S I am off to bed now :) 01:57 eythian it's a lifesaver of a command 01:57 eythian cool 01:56 Shane-S well end result is it works, reflog helped, so thanks :P 01:55 eythian yep. Which suggests there's some information I don't have that I'd need to explain it. 01:54 Shane-S but doing git format-patch master worked, wouldn't that have failed had it not been committed? 01:52 eythian so if diff shows it up, then you haven't committed it, so git log and such will not show it up 01:52 Shane-S thanks for the help eythian , hope you get the servers back up 01:52 eythian git diff shows you the difference between the working copy and what's been added to git 01:51 Shane-S yep that was it...didn't know it was not re-making the patch 01:47 Shane-S cause my git diff show the changes 01:46 Shane-S damn still not there, do I have to re-make the patch after I rebase and squash? 01:44 eythian git status doesn't show commits 01:44 Shane-S so now its time to upload the patch (again) and see 01:44 Shane-S and I just did a diff, and my change was in there 01:44 Shane-S even though status didn;t show me anything, when I did rebase it came up with the commit 01:44 eythian also, if you don't have --hard, then your changes will still be there. 01:43 Shane-S I think I got it 01:43 eythian fetch just downloads, you need to checkout a branch 01:43 eythian not as you'd expect though 01:43 eythian Shane-S: sorta 01:34 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #648: STILL UNSTABLE in 52 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/648/ 01:32 Shane-S git fetch origin ; git reset --hard origin/master will that do it for me? 01:26 * Shane-S thinks he should wipe it out and just start from a 0 status and remake the patch it is only 12 lines of code in 2 files 01:25 Shane-S says I am 6 commits ahead of master though 01:25 Shane-S I just tried git reflog, get merg e3.... to the point where it had commit: added missing </style> and then I do git status, it doesn;t show my moded file anymore 01:19 eythian no, commiting makes a patch internally 01:19 Shane-S damn...tried re-adding that line and it didn't work 01:15 Shane-S maybe it is because I didn't make it a patch...I just got to commit, I never did format-patch? 01:14 eythian git revlog will let you always get back to where you were 01:14 Shane-S okay np, I will have to figure it out 01:13 eythian got a server down, busy dealing with that 01:12 Shane-S Should I remake correction to patch 1 and try to rebase again? 01:12 Shane-S it only asked for the 2 that I have pick and squash on, the 3rd line, the different patch, wasn't in the name part 01:11 Shane-S when it asked me to pick a name, I commented out the second files name and left the 1st 01:11 Shane-S I copied line 3 to line 2, and added squash in place of pick 01:10 eythian top two rather 01:10 Shane-S yeah, pick, then squash, and a pick 01:10 eythian you did have all three lines in there when you saved the rebase file? 01:10 eythian it should be the two two 01:10 eythian that's fairly confusing 01:09 Shane-S just shows my 2 patches with Mar5 and Mar7 dates, nothing for today, and then other peoples commits 01:09 eythian cya 01:09 sturmtruppen good night. i'm ko. 01:09 eythian then sleep and continue it later :) 01:09 sturmtruppen ok. thanks for your patience but i'm too tired. I have only few hours to rest. 01:08 eythian sturmtruppen: it's not easy to give specific instructions because it depends on how things are set up, hence doing it the way that's described in the instructions 01:07 sturmtruppen i understand. here are 2.am and tomorrow morning i have to go to work. sorry if seems i'm a bit stupid or slow now... 01:07 eythian you type git log 01:06 Shane-S where are the log...cause in my kohaclone/,git/logs I just have HEAD and prefs 01:06 eythian sturmtruppen: then follow the instuctions that you used to install from git to set up zebra 01:05 eythian Shane-S: unless you deleted the line, it will still be there 01:05 sturmtruppen i installed from git. 01:05 Shane-S it just killed the other patch 01:04 Shane-S damnit, it didn;t merge! 01:04 eythian if you follow the instructions you used to install Koha, it'll tell you how to set up zebra 01:04 eythian you don't need one 01:03 sturmtruppen zebra.cfg, sorry 01:03 sturmtruppen i have no zebra.conf file... and i do not understand why.... 01:00 eythian no, the instructions you're using to set up koha 00:59 sturmtruppen on the faq? 00:59 eythian it's not running, you'll have to look in your instructions about how to set it up 00:58 sturmtruppen 2576 pts/2 S+ 0:00 grep zebrasrv 00:57 sturmtruppen i'm very newbie 00:57 eythian ps ax|grep zebrasrv 00:57 sturmtruppen how can i see it? 00:57 eythian Do you have the zebrasrv process running? 00:56 eythian sturmtruppen: OK, so your indexing seemed to work. 00:56 eythian Shane-S: git log will tell you 00:56 Shane-S eythian: last question said I had success how can I check? 00:56 sturmtruppen that's right because i inserted only one record 00:55 sturmtruppen Records exported: 1 00:55 eythian yes, but the important part is if it told you how many records it added. 00:53 sturmtruppen no results found 00:52 eythian so there's two of them 00:52 eythian sturmtruppen: no, another -v 00:52 Shane-S ah okay, hence reorder, got it now 00:52 eythian make one pick and the second squash 00:52 eythian to put the two to combine next to each other 00:52 eythian but move it around 00:51 eythian pick 00:51 Shane-S oh, what do I put if I don't want any change (the second line is a GOOD patch) 00:51 eythian so you want to reorder and do p,s,p or p,p,s or something 00:51 sturmtruppen -b -v, same warning 00:51 eythian it squashes it into the previously picked commit 00:51 eythian Shane-S: squash doesn't make sense for the first one,. 00:50 eythian Try adding another -v to the rebuild,. it'll give you more info 00:50 Shane-S you say re-order, can I not to do squash, pick, squash (I have 3 patches at the top that all said pick, I assume I change what needs to be combined) 00:50 eythian I see that warning sometimes, never sure if it's important. 00:50 sturmtruppen and i don't found the book on catalog 00:50 sturmtruppen done, but i obtain a warning: Record didn't contain match fields in (bib1,Local-number) 00:49 sturmtruppen ok, i run rebuild_zebra.pl -b -r -v 00:45 Shane-S *gives it a try... 00:45 eythian ;) 00:45 eythian <eythian> Shane-S: make a new commit, then do git rebase -i master, reorder things and squash the two patches that should go together. 00:43 Shane-S looks like I should make my patch, as per normal, then use git rebase -i to get an insteractive squash option? 00:42 jenkins_koha Starting build #648 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #644 1 j 8 h ago) 00:42 eythian Then you'll be the one explaining how things work to people :) 00:42 eythian it's complicated, but once you understand how that works, a lot more about git becomes clear 00:41 Shane-S okay...reads more on rebase 00:41 eythian create C with your new fix, and use the rebase command to glue A and C together 00:40 * Shane-S notes it was HIS work, but copied from a pastebin submission before I got git to patch 00:40 Shane-S I stupidly did A from a copy and paste, and missed the </style> closing tag and made the patch 00:39 Shane-S A is not related to B in any way , it (B) is in OPAC, A is in Reports 00:38 Shane-S only 2 patches made so far by me 00:38 Shane-S fix 00:38 Shane-S I have A B and a fit to A 00:36 eythian if I get this right, you have three commits: A, B, C. A and C should be joined up, B is something different, right? 00:35 eythian well, it's looking relative to the previous commit 00:35 Shane-S so it would assume my changes aren't diff then the master? 00:34 eythian you're not adding files, you're adding changes. 00:34 eythian Shane-S: no, it doesn't really work like that 00:34 * Shane-S admits its probably an idiots idea.. 00:33 Shane-S then I can re-add it to git right? 00:33 Shane-S wait had a genius idea...what if I just add a "space" to the other file, then git will see a change 00:32 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7646 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Failed QA , Printing w/o the SQL Code showing 00:32 Shane-S eythian: do you know much about patching? not sure what I do with bug 7646 this is why I am re-patching, I forgot </style> DOH! 00:31 eythian that's why it's good. 00:31 eythian you can always recover 00:30 * Shane-S new I would f* up with git somehow 00:30 Shane-S rebasing huh.. I have some reading myself :P 00:29 sturmtruppen back in 5 00:29 sturmtruppen ok, now i read. 00:28 Shane-S it should also have made you make it cron/crontab job 00:28 Shane-S sturmtruppen: well if you installed by git and followed a guide it would have listed rebuild_zebra.pl -z -b -a somewhere, never seen zebraidx anywhere for making it index books 00:28 eythian you can't use zebraidx directly 00:27 eythian look at the stuff at the bottom of the faq 00:27 wahanui faq is found at http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/ 00:27 eythian wahanui: faq 00:27 sturmtruppen yes, last night. New day, new virtual machine, new installation method 00:27 eythian sturmtruppen: don't do that 00:26 sturmtruppen after a new collocation of a book, i try /usr/bin/zebraidx -d koha 00:26 Shane-S didn't* 00:26 Shane-S did you use aptitude last night? 00:26 sturmtruppen i installed by git 00:26 sturmtruppen hi everyone 00:25 Shane-S where are you getting that sturmtruppen ? 00:25 eythian sturmtruppen: how have you installed things? 00:25 eythian Have a go with the rebase, it gives you some instructions in the editor that comes up 00:25 sturmtruppen ??????????????? 00:25 sturmtruppen /usr/bin/zebraidx(32637) [warn] Cannot open `zebra.cfg' [No such file or directory] 00:25 sturmtruppen another newbie question... 00:24 eythian because it's been added 00:24 eythian probably not 00:24 Shane-S that just went over my head...still new to this, I will try and just re-add the file to a new patch will that work?\ 00:24 eythian (maybe replace master with whatever you've based this branch on) 00:23 eythian Shane-S: make a new commit, then do git rebase -i master, reorder things and squash the two patches that should go together. 00:23 Shane-S or should I just made a new patch specifing the files again? 00:23 huginn Oak: The current temperature in Islamabad, Pakistan is 7.0°C (5:00 AM PKT on March 09, 2012). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady). 00:22 Oak @wunder islamabad 00:22 Oak kia ora #koha 00:22 Shane-S hmm...well I made a second patch since then (different file though) is there a way to add it to an older patch? 00:22 eythian it changes the previous commit to incorporate the new stuff 00:21 eythian Shane-S: git commit --amend is possibly what you need 00:21 Shane-S so I need a little help I made a mistake in a patch, and I want to correct it, how would I append my change to the patch in git?