Time  Nick           Message
23:03 wizzyrea       and I'm out, later peeps
22:50 talljoy        okay, i've got to go get ready for date night part deux
22:48 bag            whoops I totally hit the enter key way way too early there
22:48 bag            cookiees
22:48 talljoy        nom nom
22:48 bag            I like girl scout
22:48 wizzyrea       made from real girl scouts.
22:48 bag            noice
22:48 wizzyrea       I have girl scout cookies, and I'm not afraid to use them.
22:47 wizzyrea       pft, crazy westerners.
22:47 bag            no it's 2:45
22:47 bag            ah where'd thatchmo go?
22:47 wizzyrea       well clearly it's 4:45 on a friday in the US on #koha
22:46 talljoy        or thatchmo as the case may be today
22:46 wizzyrea       hehe
22:46 talljoy        no that's treas version
22:46 wizzyrea       not "words with people who used to be friends"
22:46 talljoy        big ones
22:46 talljoy        i like words
22:46 talljoy        LOL
22:46 wahanui        okay, wizzyrea.
22:46 wizzyrea       talljoy is also kicking butt at words with friends
22:46 wahanui        okay, bag.
22:46 bag            wizzyrea is also KOREAN
22:45 talljoy        all is right with the world now
22:45 wizzyrea       like so :)
22:45 wahanui        I LIKE SCIENCE!
22:45 wizzyrea       wizzyrea?
22:45 wizzyrea       wizzyrea is <reply> I LIKE SCIENCE!
22:45 talljoy        lol
22:45 wahanui        wizzyrea: I forgot wizzyrea
22:45 wizzyrea       forget wizzyrea
22:45 talljoy        wizzyrea is not koren
22:45 bag            wizzyrea: is not koren
22:45 wahanui        I LIKE SCIENCE! or koren
22:45 wizzyrea       wizzyrea?
22:45 bag            heh
22:45 bag            fucking typos
22:45 wizzyrea       wizzyrea is not koren
22:44 huginn         bag: I doubt it very much.
22:44 bag            @eightball will I happen to find a bag full of money this weekend?
22:44 wizzyrea       koren is bag's bad way of spelling "Korean"
22:44 wizzyrea       koren?
22:44 wahanui        I LIKE SCIENCE! or koren
22:44 talljoy        wizzyrea?
22:44 wahanui        okay, bag.
22:44 bag            wizzyrea is also koren
22:44 huginn         maximep: One would be wise to think so.
22:44 maximep        @eightball do I have to work 3 hours extra next week because I didn't do them this week ?
22:44 bag            are you koren?
22:43 wizzyrea       ^^ kekek
22:43 talljoy        HAHAHAHA
22:43 huginn         bag: One would be wise to think so.
22:43 bag            @eightball am I insane?
22:43 wizzyrea       i know, you're all so glad to know that *that* critical detail is taken care of
22:43 huginn         bag: What are you asking me for?
22:43 bag            @eightball will this weekend rock?
22:43 talljoy        phew
22:43 * wizzyrea     works the bots so you don't have to
22:43 bag            *sigh*
22:43 bag            oh well
22:43 bag            ahhh…
22:43 wizzyrea       only huginn :)
22:43 wizzyrea       nah, wahanui doesn't require registration
22:42 bag            ahh that's what happens when I can't be brendan
22:42 maximep        -_-
22:42 wahanui        I LIKE PLAYING DRUMS AND METAL MUSIC
22:42 maximep        maximep?
22:42 wahanui        quite possibly the sweetest person ever or the man with lots of doggies
22:42 bag            ago43?
22:42 wahanui        quite possibly the sweetest person ever or the man with lots of doggies
22:42 wizzyrea       ago43?
22:42 wahanui        okay, wizzyrea.
22:42 wizzyrea       ago43 is also the man with lots of doggies
22:42 wizzyrea       ago 43 is also the man with lots of doggies
22:42 bag            oh poop I don't think I'm registered
22:42 wahanui        talljoy: excuse me?
22:42 talljoy        wahanui doesn't like bag
22:42 wizzyrea       like this
22:42 wizzyrea       no no
22:42 wahanui        quite possibly the sweetest person ever
22:42 bag            ago43?
22:42 talljoy        is true. i must say
22:42 bag            ago43 is <reply> The man with lot's of doggies and quite possibly the sweetest person ever
22:41 talljoy        who did that?
22:41 wahanui        quite possibly the sweetest person ever
22:41 wizzyrea       ago43?
22:41 wizzyrea       ago43
22:41 maximep        -_-
22:41 maximep        maximep is <reply> I LIKE PLAYING DRUMS AND METAL MUSIC
22:41 wahanui        talljoy: i'm not following you...
22:41 talljoy        wahanui doesn't know ago43!!!
22:41 edveal         Yep...
22:40 talljoy        ago43?
22:40 wahanui        edveal is, like, good friends with Ruth (DRuth) and have been for years
22:40 bag            edveal?
22:40 * talljoy      taps her foot impatiently
22:40 bag            noice
22:40 wahanui        I CRUNCH DATA
22:40 bag            talljoy?
22:40 talljoy        bag: stop causing trouble...get back to work
22:40 wizzyrea       it's true ;)
22:40 wahanui        I LIKE SCIENCE!
22:40 bag            wizzyrea?
22:40 bag            haha
22:40 * wizzyrea     runs around shouting "I'M HELPING"
22:39 bag            :D
22:39 wizzyrea       :)
22:39 wahanui        I LIKE BASEBALL
22:39 wizzyrea       bag?
22:39 wizzyrea       bag is <reply> I LIKE BASEBALL
22:39 bag            or something like that
22:39 wizzyrea       so
22:39 bag            I LIKE BASEBALL
22:39 wizzyrea       what was the old one?
22:39 bag            bag?
22:39 bag            I liked my old one…
22:38 wahanui        bag: I forgot bag
22:38 bag            wahanui: forget bag
22:38 wizzyrea       lol
22:38 wizzyrea       oh, that explains it
22:38 bag            oh no!!!!
22:38 wahanui        bag is sleeping right now :)
22:38 wizzyrea       bag?
22:38 bag            ahh that's so nice
22:38 * wizzyrea     nods
22:38 wahanui        I LIKE SPACE AND MY WIFE
22:38 bag            NateC?
22:38 wizzyrea       i bet ^.^
22:38 bag            yeah me too
22:37 bag            heh
22:37 * wizzyrea     giggles
22:37 wizzyrea       lolwut
22:37 huginn         NateC: The operation succeeded.
22:37 NateC          @later tell wizzyrea FART FART FART
22:36 wizzyrea       you are silly.
22:36 wizzyrea       lol
22:35 bag            I'm evil
22:35 bag            heh
22:35 bag            bummer I switched my nick and left him a bunch of @later's from melia ;)
22:33 wizzyrea       he may be afk
22:28 wahanui        I LIKE ALMONDS! HAVE SOME NUTS!
22:28 bag            rangi?
22:13 jcamins        It does get a bit loud in this apartment.
22:12 jcamins        Yeah, it'll be nice not to be on a main street.
22:12 maximep        *liked koha
22:11 maximep        everyone really liked with koha =)
22:11 rangi          excellent
22:11 maximep        and probably will get a few koha clients from that event =)
22:11 rangi          i went to it last year in vancouver, was very good
22:11 maximep        we went a few months ago to a something like that
22:11 rangi          quite a few evergreen people will be
22:11 * wizzyrea     refrains from the usual admonition to drunken developers
22:10 maximep        anyone u know is going ?
22:10 maximep        oh, interesting
22:10 maximep        well I also am a wimp because i'm almost drunk -_-
22:10 rangi          http://accessconference.ca/2012/03/01/access-2012-dates-announced/
22:09 rangi          2 secs ill get the link again
22:09 maximep        no logs in my client -_-
22:09 maximep        a link to something
22:09 maximep        yes, saw that
22:09 rangi          e
22:09 rangi          ah was from m
22:08 maximep        oops
22:08 maximep        hmmm a message from the bot... and I closed the window
22:08 wizzyrea       I think they're too strong. but I *am* a wimp.
22:08 maximep        just tasted 4 beers with 10% alcool, so I can say there's damage -_-
22:03 * wizzyrea     nods
22:03 wizzyrea       "collateral damage"
22:02 sekjal         have a great night and weekend, #koha!
22:02 sekjal         ok, time for me to catch my bus
22:02 rangi          This beer is 10% abv. Be mindful of the threat of collateral damage. Lock and load..
22:01 rangi          American Double IPA
22:01 rangi          23/24 Shock & Awe
22:00 sekjal         neat
22:00 wizzyrea       i approve.
22:00 rangi          http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lq43ok8RC61qiqr26.jpg
22:00 rangi          http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lq43noXRFr1qiqr26.jpg
21:59 wizzyrea       holy smokes.
21:59 bag            nice
21:59 rangi          24 beers in 24 weeks
21:59 bag            awesome
21:59 rangi          http://garageproject.co.nz/BEERS
21:57 sekjal         been letting it condition in cooler temperatures for over a week now, hoping to precipitate some of the cloudiness out
21:57 sekjal         temperature has been a problem this batch... I had to leave the beer in a small room with a heater on, but the door slightly cracked, to get the right balance
21:56 bag            rangi go for a lager :)
21:56 bag            I mean siphon from fermentor to bottling bucket
21:56 rangi          this house doesnt have a nice place to store it, nothing with a good constant temperature like my old house
21:56 bag            if not sometimes you'll get a little in your mouth - and you can taste it
21:56 sekjal         bag: no
21:56 bag            do you have an auto-siphon ?
21:55 sekjal         bag:  sounds good.  hopefully I didn't make 5 gallons of swill
21:55 bag            I didn't know
21:55 bag            oh right on rangi
21:55 bag            well once you bottle - I'd say try one after like 10 days ;)
21:55 rangi          i used to still got all the gear downstairs somewhere
21:54 bag            ahhhh…
21:54 bag            s/you're/your
21:54 sekjal         bag:  almost.  I need to wash the bottles and get ready to bottle
21:54 bag            rangi: when are we going to get you to brew you're own?
21:54 bag            hey sekjal is the beer ready yet?
21:54 bag            right on sekjal
21:54 bag            heh
21:54 sekjal         not tonight on 7641... need to go home and get some sleep.  perhaps this weekend
21:53 wizzyrea       O.o
21:52 bag            man I'm a bugger today
21:52 bag            tap.. tap.. tap..  tapp….
21:52 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7641 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Signed Off , Add ability to suspend reserves.
21:52 bag            ok next to QA…  QAM is bug 7641
21:52 * wizzyrea     doesn't know
21:52 wizzyrea       oh is it?
21:52 bag            that's his nick right?
21:51 bag            papa++
21:44 rangi          yep, hes coming to wellington to work a few days next week
21:44 sekjal         srdjan++
21:42 wizzyrea       mhm
21:42 sekjal         and if there are bugs yet to trace out, they'll be a lot easier to deal with in this new structure than the old.
21:42 wizzyrea       because getting that done was a bit of a trial. ;)
21:41 wizzyrea       rangi you will um, buy srdjan a drink for us the next time you see him right :P
21:41 sekjal         but the core of it is, as far as I can tell, good stuff
21:41 sekjal         some followups are needed, and the second patch needs testing
21:41 rangi          yay!
21:41 wizzyrea       love love love love love
21:41 wizzyrea       ooh!!!!!!
21:41 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7001 enhancement, P3, ---, srdjan, Passed QA , User Configurable Slips
21:41 sekjal         bug 7001
21:31 rangi          hmm i didnt get enough sleep to puzzle out this python, ill try again tomorrow
21:29 rangi          yeah its windy
21:26 wizzyrea       lordie.
21:26 wizzyrea       150kph!
21:26 wizzyrea       chairman wow!
21:26 * wizzyrea     does a double take... bomb... wellington... oh, WEATHER bomb.
21:25 bag            yeah totally patient
21:25 rangi          http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/6516432/Weather-bomb-hits-Wellington
21:25 wizzyrea       and he's oh my incredibly patient.
21:25 rangi          yep, srdjan may not always understand koha, but he has more perl experience than most of us put together
21:24 wizzyrea       the email notices in general
21:24 wizzyrea       we should, probably double check the overdues on a real-ish data set
21:24 sekjal         explained why it was done that way...
21:24 wizzyrea       wooooot
21:24 sekjal         it's looking pretty solid.  srdjan addressed the concerns I had about mod_perl
21:23 wizzyrea       I know :)
21:23 * bag          just having fun ;)
21:23 bag            heh
21:23 * wizzyrea     did partially pay for it, after all.
21:23 bag            wizzyrea: sssshhhhhhhh
21:23 wizzyrea       :)
21:23 * wizzyrea     wants it too, but I'd like it to be right, too.
21:23 bag            s/skejal/sekjal
21:23 bag            wizzyrea: ssshhhh…  I just want skejal to pass it ;)
21:22 wizzyrea       but I recall fabricating that situation
21:22 sekjal         I'm kinda loopy right now... probably shouldn't be QAing, but I want to get 7001 through the gate
21:22 wizzyrea       sometimes it's hard to tell in testing because you have to fabricate a situation
21:22 sekjal         no, just curious
21:22 wizzyrea       did you find something?
21:22 wizzyrea       Yes, I looked at them and they *seemed* to be correct
21:21 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7001 enhancement, P3, ---, srdjan, Signed Off , User Configurable Slips
21:21 sekjal         wizzyrea:  in your testing of bug 7001, did you poke at overdue notices?
21:21 rangi          youre=your
21:21 rangi          but what i really want to do is fix git-bz
21:21 rangi          which works for now
21:20 rangi          so what i did was hack bugzilla to go, oh your coming from git bz, yeah, youre token is broken, i dont care
21:19 jcamins        I just don't find this a compelling enough feature to justify checking every single calendar.
21:18 jcamins        There are a gazillion calendar widgets in Koha.
21:13 wizzyrea       yea, not much black in kansas.
21:12 sekjal         and lots of black
21:12 sekjal         so, greens and blues and greys.
21:12 * sekjal       grew up on the great grey-green greasy Columbia River, all set about with pine trees
21:10 jcamins        Holidays. Good one.
21:10 wizzyrea       holidays
21:10 jcamins        Serials.
21:10 wizzyrea       all we have is blue and brown here, and sometimes green.
21:10 jcamins        Okay... where would I find a calendar?
21:10 * wizzyrea     grew up in kansas, I like colors and light!
21:09 wizzyrea       you'd like grey.
21:09 wizzyrea       oh, well yea,
21:09 * sekjal       grew up in WA
21:09 * wizzyrea     hated all the grey.
21:09 * wizzyrea     loves it! LOVES it.
21:09 sekjal         ah!  tried switching to Bugzilla classic skin.  too bright, too bright! my eyes!
21:07 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7261 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, juan.sieira, Needs Signoff , System Preference to select the first day of week (Sunday or Monday) to use in the calendar (OPAC and Intranet)
21:07 jcamins        I shall sign off on bug 7261.
21:06 wizzyrea       I should have explored my options a lot sooner.
21:06 jcamins        lol
21:04 * wizzyrea     facepalms
21:04 wizzyrea       I know, we'll take a forum that will by design be rife with criticism, and make it soul crushing grey!
21:04 wizzyrea       what in gods name were they thinking.
21:04 wizzyrea       wow, I feel happier just not looking at all of that grey!
21:03 wizzyrea       hehe
21:03 jcamins        Also, great minds think alike... I, too, am currently staring at that list.
21:03 jcamins        wizzyrea++ # great caption
21:03 jcamins        Ooh, that is nicer.
21:03 wizzyrea       http://screencast.com/t/JvrxmJXFDC
21:02 wizzyrea       I approve of what you did there, rangi.
21:02 jcamins        Yay!
21:02 wizzyrea       lot less grey :)
21:02 wizzyrea       ohh, and the classic theme is much less depressing.
21:01 wizzyrea       :)
21:01 jcamins        I changed them back.
21:01 jcamins        It is.
21:00 wizzyrea       because I wouldn't trade them :P
21:00 * wizzyrea     wonders if it's per-user configurable
21:00 wizzyrea       hrmph.
21:00 jcamins        Absolutely unreadable on a phone.
20:59 jcamins        wizzyrea: funny... I thought they were a lot worse.
20:59 wizzyrea       :P
20:59 wizzyrea       also, the bugzilla emails are MUCH nicer now
20:58 wizzyrea       ooo fun
20:57 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7641 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Signed Off , Add ability to suspend reserves.
20:57 bag            bug 7641
20:57 bag            7641
20:54 wizzyrea       rangi++ awesome, all better
20:53 wizzyrea       ty
20:53 wizzyrea       much better :D
20:53 wizzyrea       check. un mo.
20:53 rangi          try with -e again
20:52 pastebot       "wizzyrea" at 24.124.17.146 pasted "obsolete error" (21 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/289
20:52 wizzyrea       error looks similar to the timeout.
20:52 wizzyrea       looks like you don't even get the 20s anymore
20:51 rangi          hmm lemme check the obsolete bit
20:50 wizzyrea       i got terribly spoiled being able to obsolete from the command line >.>
20:49 wizzyrea       but without -e yea, it works
20:48 * wizzyrea     tries again without -e
20:48 wizzyrea       hmm, can't obsolete...
20:48 wizzyrea       okies
20:47 rangi          nope
20:47 rangi          yep i just tested it
20:47 wizzyrea       a patch or anything?
20:47 wizzyrea       wait do I need anything for git bz?
20:47 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6473 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, wizzyrea, REOPENED , Test bug for Git-bz
20:47 wizzyrea       bug 6473
20:47 schuster       darn testy bugs
20:47 wizzyrea       there's a test bug!
20:46 schuster       thanks!
20:46 rangi          can someone try a git-bz attach now?
20:44 wizzyrea       ^^
20:44 jcamins        schuster: du -hc /var/lib/zebradb
20:44 schuster       DB on disk is 7 gig
20:43 schuster       and it seems like the last time I investigated it that was larger then everything else.
20:43 wizzyrea       how big is your DB on disk?
20:43 jcamins        schuster: ah.
20:43 schuster       I'm trying to size correctly the VM environment for our install
20:39 cjh            heh
20:38 jcamins        schuster: that was directed at you.
20:36 wahanui        the first question is "What are you trying to do?"
20:36 jcamins        the first question?
20:35 schuster       next question how can I tell how big my zebradb is?
20:25 rangi          so need to do that for adding too
20:24 rangi          and some other stuff with tokens
20:24 rangi          fields['token'] = patch.token
20:24 rangi          if patch.token:
20:24 rangi          yeah in update patch it does this
20:23 jcamins        You're welcome.
20:22 schuster       k thanks
20:22 jcamins        Yup.
20:22 schuster       can we drop the database and create it again and redo that step of the installer?
20:21 jcamins        In that case, you could drop all the tables.
20:21 schuster       Database is empty
20:21 jcamins        You could delete your database, but then you'd lose all your data.
20:21 jcamins        It populates the database during the initial webinstall run.
20:20 schuster       So basically "reinstall?"
20:20 jcamins        You can't.
20:20 schuster       how can I rerun the webinstaller to get basic configurations set after it has already been run?
20:20 jcamins        rangi++
20:19 rangi          so i need to read the code of git-bz
20:19 jcamins        Yes, that makes sense.
20:19 rangi          previously you only needed a token to edit an attachement, now you need it to add one too (which makes sense to me)
20:18 rangi          yep, we need to fix git-bz to get a valid token and submit that
20:16 jcamins        Without git-bz attach, signing things off won't be nearly so painless.
20:16 jcamins        Eww. How do we get valid tokens?
20:16 rangi          it was exploiting a security vulnerability
20:15 rangi          not doing attach
20:15 jcamins        So git-bz won't work anymore?
20:15 rangi          so now you need a valid token to upload an attachment
20:15 rangi          was fixed
20:15 huginn         04Bug 703983: was not found.
20:15 rangi          https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=703983
20:14 rangi          yep
20:08 sekjal         night, cait!
20:08 cait           night all
20:08 cait           jcamins++
20:07 jcamins        Fixed it.
20:05 jcamins        Ah, syntax error.
20:00 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7400 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, matthias.meusburger, Needs Signoff , Add auto-completion on auth_finder
20:00 jcamins        Hrm. The new patch for bug 7400 doesn't seem to do anything.
19:55 nengard        manually
19:55 jcamins        nengard: did you get it working, or did you attach it manually?
19:53 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Passed QA , Authority matching algorithm improvements
19:53 jcamins        Oh, I guess I'd better rebase bug 7284, just to make it easier for paul_p.
19:48 * jcamins      nods sagely. That one is pretty suspicious.
19:48 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7641 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , Add ability to suspend reserves.
19:48 jcamins        Bug 7641.
19:46 nengard        7641
19:46 jcamins        nengard: which bug were you working on?
19:40 huginn         nengard: The operation succeeded.
19:40 nengard        @later tell rangi did the upgrade of bugzilla make it so that we can't use git bz to attach patches? I get a 200 error when i tried
19:40 wizzyrea       ping rangi
19:40 wizzyrea       that would be unfortunate
19:40 wizzyrea       did it?
19:40 nengard        i got a 200 error - suspicious activity when I tried
19:40 wizzyrea       !
19:39 nengard        did the upgrade of bugzilla make it so that we can't use git bz to attach patches?
19:38 wizzyrea       he hasn't been around much, I think he may be getting into evergreen? MO just signed on to a huge EG project
19:38 bag            thanks wizzyrea
19:38 wizzyrea       afaik, yea
19:37 bag            hey wizzyrea is greg still going by rhcl when he shows up in these parts?
19:37 huginn         bag: rhcl was last seen in #koha 5 weeks, 6 days, 23 hours, 54 minutes, and 59 seconds ago: <rhcl> I guess I'm not very territorial, and don't see a problem with occasional collaboration or comparison between projects.
19:37 bag            @seen rhcl
19:02 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7372 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha.sekjal, NEW , RoadTypes should be folded into Authorised Values
19:02 sekjal         looking at my plan for bug 7372
19:01 cait           you are welcome
19:01 sekjal         ah, yes, thank you cait, that's it
19:00 cait           &GetKohaAuthorisedValueLib ?
18:59 cait           I used it once. but not sure.
18:59 cait           hm
18:59 cait           there is another
18:58 cait           yes
18:54 sekjal         but it only does it for staff side
18:54 sekjal         getauthorisedvaluebycode
18:53 cait           AuthVal or something like that
18:53 cait           2 I think one for librarian and one for the opac
18:53 cait           yes
18:53 sekjal         my brain is working at less than full capacity... is there a subroutine to give me the authorised value for a given code in a given category?  there must be
18:48 * mveron       Has to prepare a demo for next week. Ponders about good "nasty questions" and good answers to them.
18:43 jcamins        Yeah, that's good.
18:43 mveron         http://meteo.search.ch/prognosis.en.html
18:43 sekjal         jcamins: looks to have branched off around 2011-07-25
18:42 rangi          http://www.metservice.com/national/maps-rain-radar/maps/tasman-sea-nz-colour-latest
18:42 rangi          no wonder its so loud
18:42 jcamins        Hopefully SMFPL used 3.4 or later...
18:42 sekjal         I think we'll need to decide on a common set of params for each page, though
18:41 rangi          easy peasy with TT
18:41 jcamins        Yup.
18:41 sekjal         then the mechanic for separating mobile and from regular template will need to be reexamined
18:40 sekjal         we'll need to diff each of the mobile files from the regular files, and see if the differences can be reconciled in a single instance
18:40 mveron         They have to re-install it after each update.
18:39 mveron         A couple of. jsp files and .css's
18:39 jcamins        That wouldn't be acceptable for inclusion in Koha.
18:39 mveron         Today I helped a library to install a solution they go from Bayerische Nationalbibliothek, it's a Backpack on Sisis
18:39 jcamins        mveron: oh yes.
18:39 mveron         Oh, that is a short cut that leads to much long tem problems with maintenance, I think
18:37 jcamins        Yeah, they copied opac/* to opac/mobile-*
18:36 * jcamins      goes to take a look.
18:36 jcamins        sekjal: right... my recollection is they copied the entire tree over.
18:35 sekjal         there are separate mobile perl files
18:35 jcamins        I don't recall whether they actually did that, though.
18:35 mveron         ^^
18:35 sekjal         it all the difference be in the templates only
18:35 jcamins        Ideally, yes.
18:35 sekjal         ideally, the perl scripts should be the same
18:35 jcamins        mveron: I think their mobile interface is the nicest I've seen, though.
18:33 jcamins        mveron: it's a lot of work.
18:33 mveron         Does not sound encouraging...
18:33 jcamins        So any new functionality since they started will need to be integrated.
18:32 jcamins        sekjal: not to mention, they copied all the templates, and then modified them heavily.
18:31 sekjal         lots of sysprefs, probably
18:31 sekjal         a lot of it's hardcoded to the one institution, apparently, so generalization will require a fair amount of effort
18:30 sekjal         mveron:  the repo can be found here: http://gitorious.org/koha-mobile-web#more
18:29 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5503 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , comments shouldn't show patron's full name
18:29 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4912 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , After editing private list, user should be redirect to private lists
18:29 jenkins_koha   * paul.poulain: bug 5503 follow-up DBrev number + added "upgrade to $DBversion" string
18:29 jenkins_koha   * oleonard: Bug 5503 [REVISED] comments shouldn't show patron's full name
18:29 jenkins_koha   * oleonard: Bug 4912 [REVISED] After editing private list, user should be redirect to private lists
18:29 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5877 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, paul.poulain, Pushed to Master , Offline circulation improvements : upload all files, apply at once
18:29 jenkins_koha   * paul.poulain: Bug 5877 DBrev numbering
18:29 jenkins_koha   * paul.poulain: Bug 5877 QA follow-up
18:29 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6919 major, P1 - high, ---, alex.arnaud, Pushed to Master , Implementing XSLTResultsDisplay
18:29 jenkins_koha   * oleonard: Bug 5877 Follow-up for Offline circulation improvements
18:29 jenkins_koha   * paul.poulain: Bug 5877 : Offline circulation improvements : upload all files, apply at once
18:29 jenkins_koha   * alex.arnaud: Bug 6919 - Follow up - call to XSLTParse4Display is now made twice in Search.pm
18:29 jenkins_koha   * oleonard: Bug 6919 - Follow-up - Implementing XSLTResultsDisplay
18:29 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7143 enhancement, P3, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Bug for tracking changes to the about page
18:29 jenkins_koha   * alex.arnaud: bug 6919 - implements XSLTResultsDisplay and adding both unimarc and marc21 xslt
18:29 jenkins_koha   * paul.poulain: Bug 7143 some cleaning
18:29 jenkins_koha   * paul.poulain: Bug 7143 missing contributors
18:29 jenkins_koha   * paul.poulain: Bug 7143 about.tt indentation fixes
18:29 jenkins_koha   * paul.poulain: bug 7143 fixing history, there were 2 #58 and no #59
18:29 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_master build #643: SUCCESS in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/643/
18:29 jcamins        mveron: it will be a *lot* of work to integrate.
18:28 mveron         sjekal: Thanks, I will have a look at it. Will it be part of the Koha distribution?
18:26 sekjal         mveron:  Stow Munroe Falls library has a really good, robust implementation of a mobile OPAC
18:23 mveron         Switching to lenses was realy amazing, you get a broader view of the world  :-)
18:22 mveron         Oh, I would be lost without lenses or glasses.
18:21 cait           without my glasses I can't see - broke them some time ago. it was horrible.
18:21 cait           so still not used to it?
18:21 cait           ah
18:20 mveron         Yes. I'm very short sighted. Since a couple of months I have soft lenses, great! But need now glasses for reading...
18:17 cait           ;)
18:17 cait           do you have your glasses?
18:15 * mveron       Lesen hilft.
18:14 mveron         Oh, I see 3 entries in the Bugtracker.
18:12 cait           and different approaches
18:12 jcamins        mveron: there are about a half dozen competing implementations.
18:12 cait           I think thre are several people working on it
18:11 mveron         I do some research regarding Mobile Opac. Is there already a solution?
18:09 mveron         Koha never sleeps...
18:09 cait           thank you :)
18:08 mveron         Happy birthday, KAtrin!
18:08 cait           hi mveron
18:08 mveron         Hi #Koha
17:56 cait           ah
17:55 jcamins        cait: yeah, I decided not to go into the city, since I already spent most of the day dealing with the contractor.
17:55 cait           hi jcamins - back already?
17:54 jcamins        Hi cait.
17:54 sekjal         lunch time!
17:53 cait           hi again #koha
17:49 huginn         New commit(s) kohagit: bug 5503 follow-up DBrev number + added "upgrade to $DBversion" string <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5716b69d16023544ca87ac88343716b2105ab047> / Bug 5503 [REVISED] comments shouldn't show patron's full name <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=30950a420b5a8d3bf75fadd05814ff0000ada4b3> / Bug 4912 [REVISED] After editing private list, user should be redirect to pr
17:49 jenkins_koha   Starting build #643 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
17:43 paul_p         (well, biking in Marseille is quite dangerous, but the street I use are OK. But most of the city is dangerous for bikes)
17:43 jcamins        paul_p: Too dangerous for us to bike.
17:42 paul_p         jcamins yes, i've an electric assisted bike. 10mn biking from home
17:42 jcamins        Lucky!
17:42 jcamins        You can bike back home?
17:42 paul_p         spring is coming ;-)
17:42 * paul_p       like when the sun is still here when he bikes back home !
17:42 sekjal         morning, bag.  happy weekend, paul_p
17:42 paul_p         good friday, then week-end to all of you, see you on monday (or maybe later today)
17:41 jcamins        Good morning, bag.
17:41 jcamins        paul_p: but you're only two patches from the funnest one! :D
17:41 paul_p         hello bag
17:41 * wizzyrea     waves
17:41 paul_p         OK, pushed 5 patches, and rejected 1, time to leave noe.
17:41 bag            morning paul_p jcamins sekjal and wizzyrea
17:41 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3216 normal, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, frederic, Needs Signoff , UNIMARC author facets
17:41 jcamins        bug 3216
17:41 jcamins        o/
17:41 bag            hehe
17:41 bag            ohhh  it's cold today
17:40 huginn         bag: The current temperature in K6LCM-Westside/Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 15.7°C (9:38 AM PST on March 02, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1020.9 hPa (Steady).
17:40 bag            @wunder 93109
17:33 sekjal         I should have read the comments more closely; 3216 seems to require ICU, which is beyond the sandboxes' automated setup at this time
17:24 wizzyrea       https://github.com/wizzyrea/Scripts-and-Things/blob/master/MARC21.mrc
17:21 wizzyrea       1s and I'll have another MARC file
17:19 wizzyrea       (all of these go with the sample data)
17:19 wizzyrea       I have another set
17:19 wizzyrea       and if that doesn't work
17:18 wizzyrea       it's got magnuse's bibs ;)
17:18 sekjal         I need one of those!
17:18 sekjal         wizzyrea++
17:18 paul_p         wizzyrea++
17:18 paul_p         wizzyrea++
17:18 paul_p         the sandbox just display WHEN it has been setup. Not sure I can know when the last login was.
17:18 wizzyrea       that's a whole DB
17:18 wizzyrea       https://github.com/wizzyrea/Scripts-and-Things/blob/master/kohadev-withbibs.sql.gz
17:18 paul_p         sent it to me by mail, that will be *very* usefull.
17:17 wizzyrea       sec
17:17 paul_p         wizzyrea yep
17:17 wizzyrea       bibs n stuff?
17:17 wizzyrea       oh, paul_p... you wanted some MARC21 data?
17:17 wizzyrea       maybe display the last time it was logged into?
17:17 wizzyrea       hm, how should we go about alerting others that a sandbox is "currently in use"
17:15 sekjal         paul_p:  just need to test some Zebra facets
17:15 paul_p         sekjal just in case = we discovered that there are only basic cron on those sandboxes. So if you need to do some tests that requires cron job you may have problems
17:14 gaetan_B       it's ok i was using test2 but i'm done for today !
17:14 sekjal         okay, claiming 3, then
17:13 paul_p         sekjal : they are never "freed". at this time, no one is working anymore at biblibre, don't use test4 as gaetan_B is using it, but others are OK
17:13 gaetan_B       bye !
17:12 sekjal         paul_p:  looks like all 4 UNIMARC ones are in use... unless the one from yesterday (3) is done now
17:08 kf             ugh.
17:08 kf             missing end somewhere in this template
17:08 paul_p         sekjal => head for a sandbox (http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Sandboxes)
17:08 kf             thx :)
17:08 paul_p         kf happy birthday !
17:03 * magnus_afk   cheers for kf!
16:57 kf             sekjal: yes it does !
16:55 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3216 normal, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, frederic, Needs Signoff , UNIMARC author facets
16:55 sekjal         anyone with a UNIMARC database able to throw a signoff at the first patch of bug 3216?  it opens doors!
16:52 kf             and wizzyrea and sekjal too
16:48 kf             wizzyrea: thx :)
16:43 kf             and matts_away is leaving the party :)
16:43 wizzyrea       http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hHZqlvG9dY
16:42 * sekjal       gets the ice cream
16:42 kf             :)
16:41 * druthb       pulls out a bag of noisemakers, and passes them around.
16:41 * wizzyrea     passes out party hats
16:41 * wizzyrea     prepares the confetti, the angel surprise cake with raspberry fluff icing
16:41 kf             it is *shrug*
16:40 wizzyrea       wait is it kf's birthday?
16:40 kf             later :)
16:39 jcamins_away   TTYL
16:39 kf             :)
16:38 * jcamins_away goes back to his new apartment to get his wife to sign this paperwork so that the apartment can be painted.
16:38 jcamins_away   Happy birthday!
16:38 jcamins_away   :)
16:38 * kf           shares her non-existant cake with you ;)
16:38 kf             thx a lot )
16:37 jcamins_away   kf: ^^
16:37 wahanui        OK, jcamins_away.
16:37 jcamins_away   wahanui: template toolkit conversion is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Htp-to-tt-conversion
16:37 wahanui        it has been said that template toolkit is apt-get install libtemplate-perl or http://tt2.org/
16:37 jcamins_away   wahanui: template toolkit?
16:37 jcamins_away   template toolkit conversion?
16:35 jcamins_away   kf: no, I just really like authority control that works. :)
16:35 jcamins_away   kf: lol
16:35 kf             jcamins_away: did you take any drugs agaist your cold?
16:35 kf             lol
16:35 jcamins_away   :D
16:35 jcamins_away   7284!
16:35 jcamins_away   Ooh! Ooh! I know!
16:35 * jcamins_away tries to think what might be fun.
16:34 jcamins_away   paul_p: I bet 1-7 won't be nearly so fun... you should start out with something fun.
16:34 jcamins_away   druthb: indeed.
16:34 paul_p         jcamins_away this one is 8th on the list ;-)
16:34 druthb         your 7284 passed QA, jcamins_away?  Awesome!
16:34 jcamins_away   (I warned you it was your turn to be nudged;)
16:34 * jcamins_away sure is!
16:34 jcamins_away   paul_p: I bet you're excited!
16:34 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Passed QA , Authority matching algorithm improvements
16:34 jcamins_away   paul_p: bug 7284 is going to be great fun to push. :)
16:33 paul_p         OK, /me head to push patches, from oldest to newest "passed QA" ...
16:22 jcamins_away   wizzyrea: it's the random part.
16:19 wizzyrea       also... 4 directories scanned? that doesn't seem right.
16:16 wizzyrea       where the fh00001 is coming from?
16:16 wizzyrea       can someone explain?
16:15 wizzyrea       seems unsurprising to me that it would be unable to open that file, as that isn't the name of my file.
16:15 wizzyrea       .zip
16:15 wizzyrea       but the name of it is picupload
16:15 wizzyrea       so... picture upload is reporting the name of my file as <fh00001picupload 2.zip>
16:15 wizzyrea       sorry vfernandes no idea :(
16:08 vfernandes     no one?
16:03 vfernandes     how i can import the leader? i'm importing the records in marcxml, but the tag <leader> is not migrated to Koha
16:00 reiveune       bye
15:53 alaquerre      Ok so it's a bugs.  I'll work it out with maximep then :-)  Thanks for the help.
15:51 wahanui        wizzyrea: I forgot only one
15:51 wizzyrea       forget only one
15:51 wahanui        rumour has it only one is in releases at the mo because there aren't enough themers to support more... maybe that will change with the TT switchover
15:51 wizzyrea       only one
15:51 wizzyrea       there are not that many files in there at all.
15:50 wizzyrea       since there is one text file, and one image in there.
15:50 wizzyrea       I have everything top level in the zip file, and mine looks like this: http://screencast.com/t/4CnRI4N9M which does in fact seem wrong
15:48 alaquerre      Looking at the source code, the warning is line 295 of picture-upload.pl.  So I never get in that part of the verification.
15:46 alaquerre      I tried it on : http://intranet.bywatersolutions.com/ and still getting the error. That's why I think it's look like a real bug.
15:46 wizzyrea       maybe your pictures are over the limit for size?
15:45 wizzyrea       ok just making sure
15:45 alaquerre      That's what I did :-)
15:44 wizzyrea       it's barcode/cardnumber (not borrowernumber), file.png
15:44 alaquerre      I'm on widows but I did use notepad to create the txt file.
15:43 wizzyrea       so inside your file, as I understand it
15:43 wizzyrea       hm, I wonder if you have a RTF file instead of TXT?
15:38 alaquerre      I tried : IDLINK.TXT, DATALINK.TXT.  With tab/comma for separator. I invert cardnumber with image name.  Always getting the warning.
15:37 alaquerre      Yes, I talk about the bulk import.
15:37 alaquerre      ok - I'll give more try then. Does the zip file must have a specific name ?
15:36 kf             have never tried it - could it be a bug?
15:36 kf             hm bulk upload
15:33 wizzyrea       afaik it hasn't changed, so it may be your procedure.
15:33 alaquerre      I even tried it on demo-master version from Bywater and still getting the same warning.
15:33 druthb         awe, thanx.
15:33 alaquerre      Good morning everyone.  Another question :-)  Does the patron image upload is still working ?  I think I make all the right thing : file : idlink.txt, format is cardnumber, image.png. etc etc.  I always get : "WARNING: This image not imported because the cardnumber and filename is missing."
15:32 wizzyrea       druthb is a great cook.
15:32 wizzyrea       awwwwww
15:32 druthb         (at best)
15:32 * druthb       is the *second* purtiest little lady in Kansas.
15:31 wizzyrea       hmmmm
15:31 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7162 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , Factorize code for order cancellation
15:31 paul_p         wizzyrea if you try to signoff bug 7162, i'll ask julian_m to try to signoff 7271 ;-)
15:30 kf             good cook too I have heard ;)
15:30 wizzyrea       purtiest lil lady in kansas
15:30 * wizzyrea     waves at druthb
15:30 druthb         hi there.
15:29 wizzyrea       :)
15:29 kf             hi druthb :)
15:29 paul_p         77 needs signof: others should go testing ;-)
15:29 paul_p         12 bugs "passed QA"... the RM should go pushing ...
15:28 paul_p         wizzyrea (seems the html mails already existed, but it was not the default)
15:27 wizzyrea       rangi++
15:27 paul_p         (your early morning !)
15:27 wizzyrea       my emails like, make sense now
15:27 wizzyrea       oh zounds.
15:27 wizzyrea       or did gmail suddenly get a lot cleverer about the tables in the emails
15:27 paul_p         ;-)
15:27 kf             his evening
15:27 kf             mymorning... :)
15:27 kf             well
15:27 kf             rangi did this morning
15:27 paul_p         wizzyrea rangi
15:27 paul_p         wizzyrea and it will be handier when I get a nice sample MARC21 database ! because for now, i've only a 1 biblio !
15:27 wizzyrea       whoa did we upgrade bugzilla?
15:26 wizzyrea       or "what do you think of this"
15:26 wizzyrea       will be so handy to be able to point librarians to it and say "test this"
15:25 paul_p         so will now remove the disclaimer at the beginning of the wiki page !
15:25 wizzyrea       awesome!
15:25 paul_p         And I have deployed the sandbox system on the 10 biblibre servers !
15:25 paul_p         it takes me a lot of time to write it, so thanks for the ++, they show me I can continue take time for it !
15:24 kf             yep, I like them too :)
15:24 kf             paul_p++
15:24 wizzyrea       I like the newsletters.
15:24 wizzyrea       paul_p++
15:24 wizzyrea       hey kf
15:24 kf             hi paul_p and wizzyrea
15:23 wizzyrea       good morning :)
15:23 wizzyrea       hehe hi
15:21 paul_p         good morning wizzyrea !
15:21 paul_p         RM newsletter published to celebrate wizzyrea arriving on the channel ;-) => http://koha-community.org/koha-release-manager-newsletter-4-2012-02/
15:14 * wizzyrea     waves
14:53 annyy          http://xeducation.info/2012/02/young-italian-nimfo-teens-loves-group-sex-adolescenza-perversa-italian/
13:35 christophe_c   thx kf
13:34 christophe_c   right, for these reasons I prefer try more to apply before
13:33 kf             I only couldn't finish :(
13:33 kf             all I looked at so far did work great
13:33 kf             it's a great enhancement but hard to test
13:33 christophe_c   yes, true
13:33 christophe_c   I try once more time before
13:33 kf             and after that, the other 2 bugs building on it
13:33 kf             it really needs a fast testing cycle
13:33 kf             it touches a lot of thigns
13:32 christophe_c   me too
13:32 kf             I would ask srdjan to rebase then :(
13:32 kf             hm -3 should be enough I think
13:32 christophe_c   try to see further, thx, kf
13:32 christophe_c   but not -iu3
13:31 christophe_c   yes -3
13:31 christophe_c   no kf, in the update I have seen the "xxx" version but in 5 others files I have conflicts... :-/
13:29 kf             sadly
13:29 kf             I tested a while ago :( and couldn't finish
13:29 kf             ?
13:29 kf             have you tried git am -iu3 =
13:29 kf             that should be right
13:29 kf             I see only one patch on the bug
13:29 kf             is it only in the database udates or in the core modules too?
13:28 kf             let me check
13:27 christophe_c   tell me kf I have git conflicts on 5786, many, before passing it in "patch doesn't apply" I prefer to be sure... I try the last one on a actual master .... am I wrong ?
13:21 christophe_c   yes HB kf ;-)
13:20 kf             I think
13:20 kf             :) thank you
13:19 christophe_c   joyeux anniversaire Katrin ;-)
13:19 christophe_c   hi all
13:05 kf             jcamins++
13:02 jcamins        magnuse: glad I could help. :)
13:02 * magnuse      is very happy he asked jcamins for advice, instead on banging his head on that bug for the next week or two...
12:54 magnuse        nice
12:54 jcamins        Better TracingQuotes or something like that.
12:53 magnuse        s/then/than/
12:53 magnuse        probably better to call it e.g. TraceCompleteSubfieldsQuoting then UseICU, right? cause it wouldn't actually influence the indexing...
12:53 jcamins        magnuse++
12:52 magnuse        hm, i might try and add the syspref, then
12:52 jcamins        kf: ehhh...
12:52 kf             jcamins: you could make that your next project ;)
12:52 magnuse        yeah...
12:51 jcamins        C4::Search--
12:51 tcohen         hi #koha
12:51 jcamins        magnuse: that's the best idea I can come up with.
12:51 magnuse        what to do then? add a syspref to choose {} or ""?
12:51 jcamins        And, of course, you can't tell whether ICU is enabled.
12:50 magnuse        nice
12:50 jcamins        That's what I've concluded.
12:49 magnuse        ah, so what should be used depends on whether icu is used or not?
12:49 jcamins        magnuse: without ICU, C4::Search apparently can't handle {}
12:49 jcamins        magnuse: C4::Search can't handle regular quotes with ICU enabled.
12:48 magnuse        sounds like catch 22 or something, then...
12:48 magnuse        jcamins: ??
12:47 jcamins        magnuse: alas, it will *cause* bug 7092 on the installations that are still working.
12:46 magnuse        jcamins: yes
12:46 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7092 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Complete-subfield searches TraceCompleteSubfields syspref not working correctly
12:46 magnuse        jcamins: so a patch to replace {} with "" in the XSLT would solve bug 7092? or is it more of a quick and dirty workaround?
12:46 jcamins        Did rangi update Bugzilla?
12:45 jcamins        vfernandes: yikes! That doesn't seem good!
12:45 vfernandes     in the C4::Biblio the 100$a string is modified... substr ( $field, 22, 6, "frey50");
12:44 jcamins        magnuse: yeah, Search.pm doesn't play well with ICU.
12:44 jcamins        *very
12:44 magnuse        jcamins: chaning {} to "" seems to solve it!
12:43 jcamins        magnuse: you're ver welcome.
12:43 jcamins        vfernandes: yay! What was it?
12:43 vfernandes     jcamins i've solved my problem
12:42 magnuse        ok, that gives me somewhere to start - thank you very much!
12:42 jcamins        magnuse: hm. In that case, try the two things I suggested.
12:42 magnuse        i'm seeing the problem on 650 too
12:41 jcamins        There need to be :p indexes on 651.
12:41 jcamins        The issue is indexing.
12:41 jcamins        Ignore that.
12:41 * jcamins      reads the second comment.
12:40 jcamins        magnuse: alternatively, use complete-field instead of complete-subfield.
12:40 jcamins        magnuse: yes. Try changing the {} quotes to "".
12:39 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7092 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Complete-subfield searches TraceCompleteSubfields syspref not working correctly
12:39 magnuse        jcamins: got any hunches about bug 7092? like where to start digging?
12:37 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Passed QA , Authority matching algorithm improvements
12:37 jcamins        paul_p: good news (for me, anyway...)! Now you're the one I'll be badgering about bug 7284. :)
12:24 vfernandes     damn this is strange :/
12:20 jcamins        Nope. I haven't heard of any bug like that.
12:19 vfernandes     any idea where this problem is?
12:19 vfernandes     i know :)
12:18 jcamins        Any bugs you encounter will be up to you to fix.
12:18 jcamins        Well, something to think about for the future.
12:18 vfernandes     in this moment it can't be done an update
12:15 jcamins        3.2 was EOLed a while ago.
12:14 jcamins        vfernandes: I'd recommend using a recent version of Koha.
12:14 kf             that should not happen
12:14 kf             oh ouch :(
12:14 vfernandes     jcamins and kf the problem is worst :/ when saving the record the field 100 changes por to fre...
12:12 jcamins        Use MarcEdit to change the leader if you're importing.
12:12 jcamins        vfernandes: of course... when you're importing records, the data has to already be there.
12:11 vfernandes     im using the UNIMARC 100 plugin and for new records works fine... for bulkmarcimport not :/
12:11 jcamins        Hello.
12:10 kf             hi jcamins :)
12:10 wahanui        okay, kf.
12:10 kf             ther is also a feature in the queue to make the default value configurable
12:09 kf             vfernandes: you could try using a default value in your framework
12:09 jcamins        vfernandes: 3.8 and 3.6.
12:09 jcamins        vfernandes: no.
12:09 vfernandes     ok jcamins... but to which version of Koha? it will work on 3.2.X?
12:08 vfernandes     kf another thing that you maybe can explain me.... I'm using UNIMARC and when migrating the record the leader is always filled with fre (french language). how to change to por (portuguese)?
12:08 jcamins        vfernandes: the improved linker just passed QA, so it's waiting for paul_p to be pushed to master.
12:07 jcamins_away   What happened to bugzilla?!?
12:01 vfernandes     hummm ok... thanks kf
12:00 kf             it's currently in qa I think
12:00 kf             jcamins has worked on something that will work a lot better
12:00 kf             tehre is one, but there are problems with it
11:59 vfernandes     there any script to do the linkage after migrating?
11:58 kf             and run a script to link them
11:58 kf             I think you will always have to import both
11:58 kf             not sure it's possible
11:58 vfernandes     i know how to do the authority linkage but if there is one way to add authorities and links during migration that would be awesome :)
11:57 kf             vfernandes: you should talk to jcamins about authority linking :)
11:47 Amit_Gupta     heya magnuse
11:33 vfernandes     its possible when using bulkmarcimport to create authorities and link the record to the created authority?
11:31 vfernandes     hi guys
11:29 magnuse        Amit_Gupta: rangi is probably sleeping
11:08 Amit_Gupta     ?
11:08 Amit_Gupta     rangi: r u not coming on gmail
11:07 Amit_Gupta     heya kf
10:03 kf             rangi++ for updating bugzilla
09:24 rangi          maybe when i get some time ill have a look at it
09:23 kf             back :)
09:23 magnuse        hiya kf!
09:23 rangi          not easily
09:21 paul_p         can we switch to a version control driven version easily ?
09:20 paul_p         rangi I think it was galen, but not 100% sure
09:19 rangi          whoever made that change will have to do it again
09:19 rangi          thats what we get for editing templates without using version control
09:18 paul_p         (and version on 6, and component on 8)
09:18 paul_p         rangi we have "status" on 4 characters again
09:16 rangi          yes
09:15 paul_p         rangi is it you that updated bugzilla this night ?
09:08 francharb      hi
08:57 magnuse        oooh http://xkcd.com/1024/
08:48 magnuse        yup
08:47 alex_a         :p
08:47 alex_a         it's just the truth
08:45 magnuse        "Koha is a true enterprise-class ILS with comprehensive functionality" :-)
08:45 * rangi        looks
08:44 magnuse        see "library system" towards the end
08:44 magnuse        http://julap.b.uib.no/synopsis/
08:44 magnuse        might try to hack something togehter myself
08:43 magnuse        i have tried to cajole the people who have actually been working on the project to write something, but to no avail
08:43 magnuse        yeah, guess it is
08:43 rangi          thats a story we should put in the newsletter
08:42 rangi          :)
08:41 magnuse        did one for three people from south sudan a while ago - koha was there before they became the worlds newest country :-)
08:41 magnuse        :-)
08:40 cait           yay!
08:38 rangi          excellent
08:38 magnuse        and probably one from uganda too
08:37 rangi          :)
08:36 magnuse        to give koha training for 2 librarians from georgia (the country, not the us state)
08:36 magnuse        hm, i'm going to oslo the week before though
08:35 magnuse        yay
08:33 rangi          ive seen him a few times, and it always worth it
08:33 rangi          you should definitely go
08:33 rangi          ohh
08:32 magnuse        ooh, damien conway is doing three days of lectures in oslo in april
08:21 magnuse        hehe
08:21 cait           :)
08:19 rangi          back to text now
08:19 rangi          i just switched it to html to see the diff
08:19 rangi          yep my prefs are set to text only
08:17 magnuse        cue cat?
08:17 * magnuse      thought rangi would be a plain text email kinda guy :-)
08:17 cait           can you combine that with a cat? :)
08:16 cait           lol
08:16 magnuse        plz boss, i can has a new email klient? mine is b0rken
08:16 cait           but stil have to use it :)
08:16 cait           I can see why
08:15 magnuse        lol
08:15 asaurat        :D
08:15 cait           hehe
08:15 rangi          breaking outlook seems like a feature to me :)
08:15 rangi          you'll want to switch it in your prefs then
08:14 cait           weird
08:14 cait           it does
08:14 cait           yep
08:14 cait           the mail breaks my outlook
08:14 cait           hm
08:13 magnuse        ah
08:13 rangi          if ppl want the old text one, they can switch it back in their preferences
08:12 magnuse        hm, monospace font?
08:12 rangi          oh yes, that is nicer
08:12 rangi          there we go
08:11 cait           thx asaurat :)
08:11 cait           I will comment on one soon :)
08:11 asaurat        oh, bon anniversaire, cait :)
08:10 rangi          so i can see the new bug mail
08:10 rangi          hmm somoene needs to change a bug
08:10 asaurat        salut =)
08:10 huginn         magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 1.0°C (8:50 AM CET on March 02, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: -5.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Rising).
08:10 magnuse        @wunder boo
08:10 magnuse        bonjour gaetan_B and asaurat
08:09 gaetan_B       hello
08:09 magnuse        yup
08:08 cait           jcamins++ he is awesome
08:08 cait           yep
08:08 magnuse        jcamins++ for a ton of signoffs!
08:07 rangi          yeah
08:04 cait           but I tihnk I like it
08:04 cait           search is rearranged
08:04 mbalmer        morgen cait!
08:04 cait           hi mbalmer
08:03 cait           looks good
08:03 cait           yep
08:03 magnuse        yeah, looked weird but a simple reload and it looks good
08:03 rangi          thanks
08:03 cait           checking
08:03 rangi          you might need to do a shift-refresh to clear the css
08:02 rangi          can ppl check bugs.koha-community.org now
08:02 cait           morning magnuse :)
08:02 cait           heh
08:01 magnuse        Weather bomb?!?
08:00 magnuse        yeah, hip hip hooooray for cait!
08:00 magnuse        kia ora #koha!
08:00 huginn         New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6875] de-nesting C4 packages <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6875> / [Bug 6536] Z3950 Enhancements: SRU targets, MARC conversion, additional XSLT processing <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6536>
07:50 reiveune       ;)
07:50 cait           thx reiveune :)
07:48 reiveune       and Happy birthday to Katrin
07:48 reiveune       hi cait :)
07:47 cait           hi reiveune
07:46 wahanui        salut, reiveune
07:46 reiveune       hello
07:42 cait           oh and sortable tables :)
07:41 cait           the links were annoying
07:41 cait           see also takes bug numbers now
07:41 cait           ah cool
07:39 rangi          http://www.bugzilla.org/releases/4.2/release-notes.html#v42_feat
07:37 cait           any new exciting features or bugfixes?  :)
07:37 cait           ooh
07:35 * rangi        is about to upgrade bugzilla to 4.2
07:29 alex_a         salut cait :)
07:29 cait           bonjour alex_a :)
07:28 alex_a         bonjour
07:13 rangi          http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/6512127/Weather-bomb-forecast-widened
06:43 cait           yes Amit_Gupta
06:42 Amit_Gupta     cait: Today is your birthday ?
06:42 Amit_Gupta     heya cait
06:25 cait           :)
06:25 cait           aaw
06:25 rangi          bwahaha
06:25 cait           hi rangi :)
06:25 rangi          hi cait
06:24 cait           good morning #koha
04:43 druthb         hi, Amit_Gupta! :D
04:42 Amit_Gupta     heya druthb
04:29 druthb         yeah, a package install is *wicked* fast.  You can be up and breathing in an hour or two, if you've got a debian server all ready for it.
04:29 Manderson      Nice job on getting the installer organized
04:28 Manderson      wow...so far this IS slick
04:25 * druthb       curtseys.
04:25 druthb         Welcome to the Koha community.  :)
04:25 rangi          http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian
04:25 Manderson      i'll take a look
04:25 druthb         There are some great instructions on the wiki for using packages, and they're pretty darn slick.
04:25 rangi          i suggest the packages then
04:25 rangi          Manderson: believe me, you dont know the half of it
04:25 Manderson      play time is over.
04:24 Manderson      I just need to get it up and running at this point.
04:24 Manderson      (besides you folks)
04:24 druthb         There are packages available, even, if you want to just run it, or you can download the whole works from git.koha-community.org and join in with patches and improvements.  :)
04:24 Manderson      thanks much. I will get started installing the community version. who knew the liblime fork would be such a pain?
04:23 druthb         awesomeness.  you should have very little difficulty.
04:22 Manderson      debian squeeze
04:21 rangi          Manderson: are you installing on a deb based system, like debian or ubuntu?
04:21 druthb         I've got several 3.6.3 installs running, and half-dozen libraries and more that are *itching* to get 3.6.4.
04:20 rangi          and 3.6.4 will be out early next week
04:20 rangi          yup april 22
04:20 druthb         3.6.3 is, yes.  3.6.4 should come out in the next few days; that's the "stable" branch.  The development branch will release 3.8 in...April, rangi?
04:19 Manderson      Is 3.6.3 released?
04:19 ibeardslee     ++
04:19 druthb         yep.  You'll be way, way happier, in the long run, I suspect.  There are a *ton* of folks here who'd be delighted to help you with 3.6.3, or the current development thread, either one...and 3.6.3 is really, really solid work at this point.
04:18 Manderson      tired of messing with this version.
04:18 Manderson      I will go ahead and switch over...
04:17 rangi          Manderson: i agree with druthb, we can really only help actual koha users here im afraid, if you want help with the liblime fork, you need to talk to liblime
04:15 druthb         So, the LibLime Koha.  Thought so.  Not many folks here who can help you with that, including me.  I suggest downloading koha from the community sources, at www.koha-community.org.
04:14 Manderson      4.02.00.006
04:14 druthb         Manderson, which version of Koha are you trying to get breathing?
04:13 Manderson      any thoughts?
04:13 Manderson      Hi all. I am having a hell of a time getting my Koha installation to allow me to add items. I am getting the following error:  additem.pl: DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Unknown column 'suppress' in 'field list' at /data/web/koha/lib/C4/Items.pm
03:29 Amit_Gupta     heya bag