Time Nick Message
03:29 Amit_Gupta heya bag
04:13 Manderson Hi all. I am having a hell of a time getting my Koha installation to allow me to add items. I am getting the following error: additem.pl: DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Unknown column 'suppress' in 'field list' at /data/web/koha/lib/C4/Items.pm
04:13 Manderson any thoughts?
04:14 druthb Manderson, which version of Koha are you trying to get breathing?
04:14 Manderson 4.02.00.006
04:15 druthb So, the LibLime Koha. Thought so. Not many folks here who can help you with that, including me. I suggest downloading koha from the community sources, at www.koha-community.org.
04:17 rangi Manderson: i agree with druthb, we can really only help actual koha users here im afraid, if you want help with the liblime fork, you need to talk to liblime
04:18 Manderson I will go ahead and switch over...
04:18 Manderson tired of messing with this version.
04:19 druthb yep. You'll be way, way happier, in the long run, I suspect. There are a *ton* of folks here who'd be delighted to help you with 3.6.3, or the current development thread, either one...and 3.6.3 is really, really solid work at this point.
04:19 ibeardslee ++
04:19 Manderson Is 3.6.3 released?
04:20 druthb 3.6.3 is, yes. 3.6.4 should come out in the next few days; that's the "stable" branch. The development branch will release 3.8 in...April, rangi?
04:20 rangi yup april 22
04:20 rangi and 3.6.4 will be out early next week
04:21 druthb I've got several 3.6.3 installs running, and half-dozen libraries and more that are *itching* to get 3.6.4.
04:21 rangi Manderson: are you installing on a deb based system, like debian or ubuntu?
04:22 Manderson debian squeeze
04:23 druthb awesomeness. you should have very little difficulty.
04:24 Manderson thanks much. I will get started installing the community version. who knew the liblime fork would be such a pain?
04:24 druthb There are packages available, even, if you want to just run it, or you can download the whole works from git.koha-community.org and join in with patches and improvements. :)
04:24 Manderson (besides you folks)
04:24 Manderson I just need to get it up and running at this point.
04:25 Manderson play time is over.
04:25 rangi Manderson: believe me, you dont know the half of it
04:25 rangi i suggest the packages then
04:25 druthb There are some great instructions on the wiki for using packages, and they're pretty darn slick.
04:25 Manderson i'll take a look
04:25 rangi http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian
04:25 druthb Welcome to the Koha community. :)
04:25 * druthb curtseys.
04:28 Manderson wow...so far this IS slick
04:29 Manderson Nice job on getting the installer organized
04:29 druthb yeah, a package install is *wicked* fast. You can be up and breathing in an hour or two, if you've got a debian server all ready for it.
04:42 Amit_Gupta heya druthb
04:43 druthb hi, Amit_Gupta! :D
06:24 cait good morning #koha
06:25 rangi hi cait
06:25 cait hi rangi :)
06:25 rangi bwahaha
06:25 cait aaw
06:25 cait :)
06:42 Amit_Gupta heya cait
06:42 Amit_Gupta cait: Today is your birthday ?
06:43 cait yes Amit_Gupta
07:13 rangi http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/6512127/Weather-bomb-forecast-widened
07:28 alex_a bonjour
07:29 cait bonjour alex_a :)
07:29 alex_a salut cait :)
07:35 * rangi is about to upgrade bugzilla to 4.2
07:37 cait ooh
07:37 cait any new exciting features or bugfixes? :)
07:39 rangi http://www.bugzilla.org/releases/4.2/release-notes.html#v42_feat
07:41 cait ah cool
07:41 cait see also takes bug numbers now
07:41 cait the links were annoying
07:42 cait oh and sortable tables :)
07:46 reiveune hello
07:46 wahanui salut, reiveune
07:47 cait hi reiveune
07:48 reiveune hi cait :)
07:48 reiveune and Happy birthday to Katrin
07:50 cait thx reiveune :)
07:50 reiveune ;)
08:00 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6875] de-nesting C4 packages <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6875> / [Bug 6536] Z3950 Enhancements: SRU targets, MARC conversion, additional XSLT processing <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6536>
08:00 magnuse kia ora #koha!
08:00 magnuse yeah, hip hip hooooray for cait!
08:01 magnuse Weather bomb?!?
08:02 cait heh
08:02 cait morning magnuse :)
08:02 rangi can ppl check bugs.koha-community.org now
08:03 rangi you might need to do a shift-refresh to clear the css
08:03 cait checking
08:03 rangi thanks
08:03 magnuse yeah, looked weird but a simple reload and it looks good
08:03 cait yep
08:03 cait looks good
08:04 cait hi mbalmer
08:04 mbalmer morgen cait!
08:04 cait search is rearranged
08:04 cait but I tihnk I like it
08:07 rangi yeah
08:08 magnuse jcamins++ for a ton of signoffs!
08:08 cait yep
08:08 cait jcamins++ he is awesome
08:09 magnuse yup
08:09 gaetan_B hello
08:10 magnuse bonjour gaetan_B and asaurat
08:10 magnuse @wunder boo
08:10 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 1.0°C (8:50 AM CET on March 02, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: -5.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Rising).
08:10 asaurat salut =)
08:10 rangi hmm somoene needs to change a bug
08:10 rangi so i can see the new bug mail
08:11 asaurat oh, bon anniversaire, cait :)
08:11 cait I will comment on one soon :)
08:11 cait thx asaurat :)
08:12 rangi there we go
08:12 rangi oh yes, that is nicer
08:12 magnuse hm, monospace font?
08:13 rangi if ppl want the old text one, they can switch it back in their preferences
08:13 magnuse ah
08:14 cait hm
08:14 cait the mail breaks my outlook
08:14 cait yep
08:14 cait it does
08:14 cait weird
08:15 rangi you'll want to switch it in your prefs then
08:15 rangi breaking outlook seems like a feature to me :)
08:15 cait hehe
08:15 asaurat :D
08:15 magnuse lol
08:16 cait I can see why
08:16 cait but stil have to use it :)
08:16 magnuse plz boss, i can has a new email klient? mine is b0rken
08:16 cait lol
08:17 cait can you combine that with a cat? :)
08:17 * magnuse thought rangi would be a plain text email kinda guy :-)
08:17 magnuse cue cat?
08:19 rangi yep my prefs are set to text only
08:19 rangi i just switched it to html to see the diff
08:19 rangi back to text now
08:21 cait :)
08:21 magnuse hehe
08:32 magnuse ooh, damien conway is doing three days of lectures in oslo in april
08:33 rangi ohh
08:33 rangi you should definitely go
08:33 rangi ive seen him a few times, and it always worth it
08:35 magnuse yay
08:36 magnuse hm, i'm going to oslo the week before though
08:36 magnuse to give koha training for 2 librarians from georgia (the country, not the us state)
08:37 rangi :)
08:38 magnuse and probably one from uganda too
08:38 rangi excellent
08:40 cait yay!
08:41 magnuse :-)
08:41 magnuse did one for three people from south sudan a while ago - koha was there before they became the worlds newest country :-)
08:42 rangi :)
08:43 rangi thats a story we should put in the newsletter
08:43 magnuse yeah, guess it is
08:43 magnuse i have tried to cajole the people who have actually been working on the project to write something, but to no avail
08:44 magnuse might try to hack something togehter myself
08:44 magnuse http://julap.b.uib.no/synopsis/
08:44 magnuse see "library system" towards the end
08:45 * rangi looks
08:45 magnuse "Koha is a true enterprise-class ILS with comprehensive functionality" :-)
08:47 alex_a it's just the truth
08:47 alex_a :p
08:48 magnuse yup
08:57 magnuse oooh http://xkcd.com/1024/
09:08 francharb hi
09:15 paul_p rangi is it you that updated bugzilla this night ?
09:16 rangi yes
09:18 paul_p rangi we have "status" on 4 characters again
09:18 paul_p (and version on 6, and component on 8)
09:19 rangi thats what we get for editing templates without using version control
09:19 rangi whoever made that change will have to do it again
09:20 paul_p rangi I think it was galen, but not 100% sure
09:21 paul_p can we switch to a version control driven version easily ?
09:23 rangi not easily
09:23 magnuse hiya kf!
09:23 kf back :)
09:24 rangi maybe when i get some time ill have a look at it
10:03 kf rangi++ for updating bugzilla
11:07 Amit_Gupta heya kf
11:08 Amit_Gupta rangi: r u not coming on gmail
11:08 Amit_Gupta ?
11:29 magnuse Amit_Gupta: rangi is probably sleeping
11:31 vfernandes hi guys
11:33 vfernandes its possible when using bulkmarcimport to create authorities and link the record to the created authority?
11:47 Amit_Gupta heya magnuse
11:57 kf vfernandes: you should talk to jcamins about authority linking :)
11:58 vfernandes i know how to do the authority linkage but if there is one way to add authorities and links during migration that would be awesome :)
11:58 kf not sure it's possible
11:58 kf I think you will always have to import both
11:58 kf and run a script to link them
11:59 vfernandes there any script to do the linkage after migrating?
12:00 kf tehre is one, but there are problems with it
12:00 kf jcamins has worked on something that will work a lot better
12:00 kf it's currently in qa I think
12:01 vfernandes hummm ok... thanks kf
12:07 jcamins_away What happened to bugzilla?!?
12:08 jcamins vfernandes: the improved linker just passed QA, so it's waiting for paul_p to be pushed to master.
12:08 vfernandes kf another thing that you maybe can explain me.... I'm using UNIMARC and when migrating the record the leader is always filled with fre (french language). how to change to por (portuguese)?
12:09 vfernandes ok jcamins... but to which version of Koha? it will work on 3.2.X?
12:09 jcamins vfernandes: no.
12:09 jcamins vfernandes: 3.8 and 3.6.
12:09 kf vfernandes: you could try using a default value in your framework
12:10 kf ther is also a feature in the queue to make the default value configurable
12:10 wahanui okay, kf.
12:10 kf hi jcamins :)
12:11 jcamins Hello.
12:11 vfernandes im using the UNIMARC 100 plugin and for new records works fine... for bulkmarcimport not :/
12:12 jcamins vfernandes: of course... when you're importing records, the data has to already be there.
12:12 jcamins Use MarcEdit to change the leader if you're importing.
12:14 vfernandes jcamins and kf the problem is worst :/ when saving the record the field 100 changes por to fre...
12:14 kf oh ouch :(
12:14 kf that should not happen
12:14 jcamins vfernandes: I'd recommend using a recent version of Koha.
12:15 jcamins 3.2 was EOLed a while ago.
12:18 vfernandes in this moment it can't be done an update
12:18 jcamins Well, something to think about for the future.
12:18 jcamins Any bugs you encounter will be up to you to fix.
12:19 vfernandes i know :)
12:19 vfernandes any idea where this problem is?
12:20 jcamins Nope. I haven't heard of any bug like that.
12:24 vfernandes damn this is strange :/
12:37 jcamins paul_p: good news (for me, anyway...)! Now you're the one I'll be badgering about bug 7284. :)
12:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Passed QA , Authority matching algorithm improvements
12:39 magnuse jcamins: got any hunches about bug 7092? like where to start digging?
12:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7092 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Complete-subfield searches TraceCompleteSubfields syspref not working correctly
12:40 jcamins magnuse: yes. Try changing the {} quotes to "".
12:40 jcamins magnuse: alternatively, use complete-field instead of complete-subfield.
12:41 * jcamins reads the second comment.
12:41 jcamins Ignore that.
12:41 jcamins The issue is indexing.
12:41 jcamins There need to be :p indexes on 651.
12:42 magnuse i'm seeing the problem on 650 too
12:42 jcamins magnuse: hm. In that case, try the two things I suggested.
12:42 magnuse ok, that gives me somewhere to start - thank you very much!
12:43 vfernandes jcamins i've solved my problem
12:43 jcamins vfernandes: yay! What was it?
12:43 jcamins magnuse: you're ver welcome.
12:44 magnuse jcamins: chaning {} to "" seems to solve it!
12:44 jcamins *very
12:44 jcamins magnuse: yeah, Search.pm doesn't play well with ICU.
12:45 vfernandes in the C4::Biblio the 100$a string is modified... substr ( $field, 22, 6, "frey50");
12:45 jcamins vfernandes: yikes! That doesn't seem good!
12:46 jcamins Did rangi update Bugzilla?
12:46 magnuse jcamins: so a patch to replace {} with "" in the XSLT would solve bug 7092? or is it more of a quick and dirty workaround?
12:46 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7092 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Complete-subfield searches TraceCompleteSubfields syspref not working correctly
12:46 magnuse jcamins: yes
12:47 jcamins magnuse: alas, it will *cause* bug 7092 on the installations that are still working.
12:48 magnuse jcamins: ??
12:48 magnuse sounds like catch 22 or something, then...
12:49 jcamins magnuse: C4::Search can't handle regular quotes with ICU enabled.
12:49 jcamins magnuse: without ICU, C4::Search apparently can't handle {}
12:49 magnuse ah, so what should be used depends on whether icu is used or not?
12:50 jcamins That's what I've concluded.
12:50 magnuse nice
12:51 jcamins And, of course, you can't tell whether ICU is enabled.
12:51 magnuse what to do then? add a syspref to choose {} or ""?
12:51 jcamins magnuse: that's the best idea I can come up with.
12:51 tcohen hi #koha
12:51 jcamins C4::Search--
12:52 magnuse yeah...
12:52 kf jcamins: you could make that your next project ;)
12:52 jcamins kf: ehhh...
12:52 magnuse hm, i might try and add the syspref, then
12:53 jcamins magnuse++
12:53 magnuse probably better to call it e.g. TraceCompleteSubfieldsQuoting then UseICU, right? cause it wouldn't actually influence the indexing...
12:53 magnuse s/then/than/
12:54 jcamins Better TracingQuotes or something like that.
12:54 magnuse nice
13:02 * magnuse is very happy he asked jcamins for advice, instead on banging his head on that bug for the next week or two...
13:02 jcamins magnuse: glad I could help. :)
13:05 kf jcamins++
13:19 christophe_c hi all
13:19 christophe_c joyeux anniversaire Katrin ;-)
13:20 kf :) thank you
13:20 kf I think
13:21 christophe_c yes HB kf ;-)
13:27 christophe_c tell me kf I have git conflicts on 5786, many, before passing it in "patch doesn't apply" I prefer to be sure... I try the last one on a actual master .... am I wrong ?
13:28 kf let me check
13:29 kf is it only in the database udates or in the core modules too?
13:29 kf I see only one patch on the bug
13:29 kf that should be right
13:29 kf have you tried git am -iu3 =
13:29 kf ?
13:29 kf I tested a while ago :( and couldn't finish
13:29 kf sadly
13:31 christophe_c no kf, in the update I have seen the "xxx" version but in 5 others files I have conflicts... :-/
13:31 christophe_c yes -3
13:32 christophe_c but not -iu3
13:32 christophe_c try to see further, thx, kf
13:32 kf hm -3 should be enough I think
13:32 kf I would ask srdjan to rebase then :(
13:32 christophe_c me too
13:33 kf it touches a lot of thigns
13:33 kf it really needs a fast testing cycle
13:33 kf and after that, the other 2 bugs building on it
13:33 christophe_c I try once more time before
13:33 christophe_c yes, true
13:33 kf it's a great enhancement but hard to test
13:33 kf all I looked at so far did work great
13:33 kf I only couldn't finish :(
13:34 christophe_c right, for these reasons I prefer try more to apply before
13:35 christophe_c thx kf
14:53 annyy http://xeducation.info/2012/02/young-italian-nimfo-teens-loves-group-sex-adolescenza-perversa-italian/
15:14 * wizzyrea waves
15:21 paul_p RM newsletter published to celebrate wizzyrea arriving on the channel ;-) => http://koha-community.org/koha-release-manager-newsletter-4-2012-02/
15:21 paul_p good morning wizzyrea !
15:23 wizzyrea hehe hi
15:23 wizzyrea good morning :)
15:24 kf hi paul_p and wizzyrea
15:24 wizzyrea hey kf
15:24 wizzyrea paul_p++
15:24 wizzyrea I like the newsletters.
15:24 kf paul_p++
15:24 kf yep, I like them too :)
15:25 paul_p it takes me a lot of time to write it, so thanks for the ++, they show me I can continue take time for it !
15:25 paul_p And I have deployed the sandbox system on the 10 biblibre servers !
15:25 wizzyrea awesome!
15:25 paul_p so will now remove the disclaimer at the beginning of the wiki page !
15:26 wizzyrea will be so handy to be able to point librarians to it and say "test this"
15:26 wizzyrea or "what do you think of this"
15:27 wizzyrea whoa did we upgrade bugzilla?
15:27 paul_p wizzyrea and it will be handier when I get a nice sample MARC21 database ! because for now, i've only a 1 biblio !
15:27 paul_p wizzyrea rangi
15:27 kf rangi did this morning
15:27 kf well
15:27 kf mymorning... :)
15:27 kf his evening
15:27 paul_p ;-)
15:27 wizzyrea or did gmail suddenly get a lot cleverer about the tables in the emails
15:27 wizzyrea oh zounds.
15:27 wizzyrea my emails like, make sense now
15:27 paul_p (your early morning !)
15:27 wizzyrea rangi++
15:28 paul_p wizzyrea (seems the html mails already existed, but it was not the default)
15:29 paul_p 12 bugs "passed QA"... the RM should go pushing ...
15:29 paul_p 77 needs signof: others should go testing ;-)
15:29 kf hi druthb :)
15:29 wizzyrea :)
15:30 druthb hi there.
15:30 * wizzyrea waves at druthb
15:30 wizzyrea purtiest lil lady in kansas
15:30 kf good cook too I have heard ;)
15:31 paul_p wizzyrea if you try to signoff bug 7162, i'll ask julian_m to try to signoff 7271 ;-)
15:31 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7162 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , Factorize code for order cancellation
15:31 wizzyrea hmmmm
15:32 * druthb is the *second* purtiest little lady in Kansas.
15:32 druthb (at best)
15:32 wizzyrea awwwwww
15:32 wizzyrea druthb is a great cook.
15:33 alaquerre Good morning everyone. Another question :-) Does the patron image upload is still working ? I think I make all the right thing : file : idlink.txt, format is cardnumber, image.png. etc etc. I always get : "WARNING: This image not imported because the cardnumber and filename is missing."
15:33 druthb awe, thanx.
15:33 alaquerre I even tried it on demo-master version from Bywater and still getting the same warning.
15:33 wizzyrea afaik it hasn't changed, so it may be your procedure.
15:36 kf hm bulk upload
15:36 kf have never tried it - could it be a bug?
15:37 alaquerre ok - I'll give more try then. Does the zip file must have a specific name ?
15:37 alaquerre Yes, I talk about the bulk import.
15:38 alaquerre I tried : IDLINK.TXT, DATALINK.TXT. With tab/comma for separator. I invert cardnumber with image name. Always getting the warning.
15:43 wizzyrea hm, I wonder if you have a RTF file instead of TXT?
15:43 wizzyrea so inside your file, as I understand it
15:44 alaquerre I'm on widows but I did use notepad to create the txt file.
15:44 wizzyrea it's barcode/cardnumber (not borrowernumber), file.png
15:45 alaquerre That's what I did :-)
15:45 wizzyrea ok just making sure
15:46 wizzyrea maybe your pictures are over the limit for size?
15:46 alaquerre I tried it on : http://intranet.bywatersolutions.com/ and still getting the error. That's why I think it's look like a real bug.
15:48 alaquerre Looking at the source code, the warning is line 295 of picture-upload.pl. So I never get in that part of the verification.
15:50 wizzyrea I have everything top level in the zip file, and mine looks like this: http://screencast.com/t/4CnRI4N9M which does in fact seem wrong
15:50 wizzyrea since there is one text file, and one image in there.
15:51 wizzyrea there are not that many files in there at all.
15:51 wizzyrea only one
15:51 wahanui rumour has it only one is in releases at the mo because there aren't enough themers to support more... maybe that will change with the TT switchover
15:51 wizzyrea forget only one
15:51 wahanui wizzyrea: I forgot only one
15:53 alaquerre Ok so it's a bugs. I'll work it out with maximep then :-) Thanks for the help.
16:00 reiveune bye
16:03 vfernandes how i can import the leader? i'm importing the records in marcxml, but the tag <leader> is not migrated to Koha
16:08 vfernandes no one?
16:15 wizzyrea sorry vfernandes no idea :(
16:15 wizzyrea so... picture upload is reporting the name of my file as <fh00001picupload 2.zip>
16:15 wizzyrea but the name of it is picupload
16:15 wizzyrea .zip
16:15 wizzyrea seems unsurprising to me that it would be unable to open that file, as that isn't the name of my file.
16:16 wizzyrea can someone explain?
16:16 wizzyrea where the fh00001 is coming from?
16:19 wizzyrea also... 4 directories scanned? that doesn't seem right.
16:22 jcamins_away wizzyrea: it's the random part.
16:33 paul_p OK, /me head to push patches, from oldest to newest "passed QA" ...
16:34 jcamins_away paul_p: bug 7284 is going to be great fun to push. :)
16:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Passed QA , Authority matching algorithm improvements
16:34 jcamins_away paul_p: I bet you're excited!
16:34 * jcamins_away sure is!
16:34 jcamins_away (I warned you it was your turn to be nudged;)
16:34 druthb your 7284 passed QA, jcamins_away? Awesome!
16:34 paul_p jcamins_away this one is 8th on the list ;-)
16:34 jcamins_away druthb: indeed.
16:34 jcamins_away paul_p: I bet 1-7 won't be nearly so fun... you should start out with something fun.
16:35 * jcamins_away tries to think what might be fun.
16:35 jcamins_away Ooh! Ooh! I know!
16:35 jcamins_away 7284!
16:35 jcamins_away :D
16:35 kf lol
16:35 kf jcamins_away: did you take any drugs agaist your cold?
16:35 jcamins_away kf: lol
16:35 jcamins_away kf: no, I just really like authority control that works. :)
16:37 jcamins_away template toolkit conversion?
16:37 jcamins_away wahanui: template toolkit?
16:37 wahanui it has been said that template toolkit is apt-get install libtemplate-perl or http://tt2.org/
16:37 jcamins_away wahanui: template toolkit conversion is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Htp-to-tt-conversion
16:37 wahanui OK, jcamins_away.
16:37 jcamins_away kf: ^^
16:38 kf thx a lot )
16:38 * kf shares her non-existant cake with you ;)
16:38 jcamins_away :)
16:38 jcamins_away Happy birthday!
16:38 * jcamins_away goes back to his new apartment to get his wife to sign this paperwork so that the apartment can be painted.
16:39 kf :)
16:39 jcamins_away TTYL
16:40 kf later :)
16:40 wizzyrea wait is it kf's birthday?
16:41 kf it is *shrug*
16:41 * wizzyrea prepares the confetti, the angel surprise cake with raspberry fluff icing
16:41 * wizzyrea passes out party hats
16:41 * druthb pulls out a bag of noisemakers, and passes them around.
16:42 kf :)
16:42 * sekjal gets the ice cream
16:43 wizzyrea http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hHZqlvG9dY
16:43 kf and matts_away is leaving the party :)
16:48 kf wizzyrea: thx :)
16:52 kf and wizzyrea and sekjal too
16:55 sekjal anyone with a UNIMARC database able to throw a signoff at the first patch of bug 3216? it opens doors!
16:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3216 normal, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, frederic, Needs Signoff , UNIMARC author facets
16:57 kf sekjal: yes it does !
17:03 * magnus_afk cheers for kf!
17:08 paul_p kf happy birthday !
17:08 kf thx :)
17:08 paul_p sekjal => head for a sandbox (http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Sandboxes)
17:08 kf missing end somewhere in this template
17:08 kf ugh.
17:12 sekjal paul_p: looks like all 4 UNIMARC ones are in use... unless the one from yesterday (3) is done now
17:13 gaetan_B bye !
17:13 paul_p sekjal : they are never "freed". at this time, no one is working anymore at biblibre, don't use test4 as gaetan_B is using it, but others are OK
17:14 sekjal okay, claiming 3, then
17:14 gaetan_B it's ok i was using test2 but i'm done for today !
17:15 paul_p sekjal just in case = we discovered that there are only basic cron on those sandboxes. So if you need to do some tests that requires cron job you may have problems
17:15 sekjal paul_p: just need to test some Zebra facets
17:17 wizzyrea hm, how should we go about alerting others that a sandbox is "currently in use"
17:17 wizzyrea maybe display the last time it was logged into?
17:17 wizzyrea oh, paul_p... you wanted some MARC21 data?
17:17 wizzyrea bibs n stuff?
17:17 paul_p wizzyrea yep
17:17 wizzyrea sec
17:18 paul_p sent it to me by mail, that will be *very* usefull.
17:18 wizzyrea https://github.com/wizzyrea/Scripts-and-Things/blob/master/kohadev-withbibs.sql.gz
17:18 wizzyrea that's a whole DB
17:18 paul_p the sandbox just display WHEN it has been setup. Not sure I can know when the last login was.
17:18 paul_p wizzyrea++
17:18 paul_p wizzyrea++
17:18 sekjal wizzyrea++
17:18 sekjal I need one of those!
17:18 wizzyrea it's got magnuse's bibs ;)
17:19 wizzyrea and if that doesn't work
17:19 wizzyrea I have another set
17:19 wizzyrea (all of these go with the sample data)
17:21 wizzyrea 1s and I'll have another MARC file
17:24 wizzyrea https://github.com/wizzyrea/Scripts-and-Things/blob/master/MARC21.mrc
17:33 sekjal I should have read the comments more closely; 3216 seems to require ICU, which is beyond the sandboxes' automated setup at this time
17:40 bag @wunder 93109
17:40 huginn bag: The current temperature in K6LCM-Westside/Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 15.7°C (9:38 AM PST on March 02, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1020.9 hPa (Steady).
17:41 bag ohhh it's cold today
17:41 bag hehe
17:41 jcamins o/
17:41 jcamins bug 3216
17:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3216 normal, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, frederic, Needs Signoff , UNIMARC author facets
17:41 bag morning paul_p jcamins sekjal and wizzyrea
17:41 paul_p OK, pushed 5 patches, and rejected 1, time to leave noe.
17:41 * wizzyrea waves
17:41 paul_p hello bag
17:41 jcamins paul_p: but you're only two patches from the funnest one! :D
17:41 jcamins Good morning, bag.
17:42 paul_p good friday, then week-end to all of you, see you on monday (or maybe later today)
17:42 sekjal morning, bag. happy weekend, paul_p
17:42 * paul_p like when the sun is still here when he bikes back home !
17:42 paul_p spring is coming ;-)
17:42 jcamins You can bike back home?
17:42 jcamins Lucky!
17:42 paul_p jcamins yes, i've an electric assisted bike. 10mn biking from home
17:43 jcamins paul_p: Too dangerous for us to bike.
17:43 paul_p (well, biking in Marseille is quite dangerous, but the street I use are OK. But most of the city is dangerous for bikes)
17:49 jenkins_koha Starting build #643 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
17:49 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: bug 5503 follow-up DBrev number + added "upgrade to $DBversion" string <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5716b69d16023544ca87ac88343716b2105ab047> / Bug 5503 [REVISED] comments shouldn't show patron's full name <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=30950a420b5a8d3bf75fadd05814ff0000ada4b3> / Bug 4912 [REVISED] After editing private list, user should be redirect to pr
17:53 cait hi again #koha
17:54 sekjal lunch time!
17:54 jcamins Hi cait.
17:55 cait hi jcamins - back already?
17:55 jcamins cait: yeah, I decided not to go into the city, since I already spent most of the day dealing with the contractor.
17:56 cait ah
18:08 mveron Hi #Koha
18:08 cait hi mveron
18:08 mveron Happy birthday, KAtrin!
18:09 cait thank you :)
18:09 mveron Koha never sleeps...
18:11 mveron I do some research regarding Mobile Opac. Is there already a solution?
18:12 cait I think thre are several people working on it
18:12 jcamins mveron: there are about a half dozen competing implementations.
18:12 cait and different approaches
18:14 mveron Oh, I see 3 entries in the Bugtracker.
18:15 * mveron Lesen hilft.
18:17 cait do you have your glasses?
18:17 cait ;)
18:20 mveron Yes. I'm very short sighted. Since a couple of months I have soft lenses, great! But need now glasses for reading...
18:21 cait ah
18:21 cait so still not used to it?
18:21 cait without my glasses I can't see - broke them some time ago. it was horrible.
18:22 mveron Oh, I would be lost without lenses or glasses.
18:23 mveron Switching to lenses was realy amazing, you get a broader view of the world :-)
18:26 sekjal mveron: Stow Munroe Falls library has a really good, robust implementation of a mobile OPAC
18:28 mveron sjekal: Thanks, I will have a look at it. Will it be part of the Koha distribution?
18:29 jcamins mveron: it will be a *lot* of work to integrate.
18:29 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #643: SUCCESS in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/643/
18:29 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: bug 7143 fixing history, there were 2 #58 and no #59
18:29 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 7143 about.tt indentation fixes
18:29 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 7143 missing contributors
18:29 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 7143 some cleaning
18:29 jenkins_koha * alex.arnaud: bug 6919 - implements XSLTResultsDisplay and adding both unimarc and marc21 xslt
18:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7143 enhancement, P3, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Bug for tracking changes to the about page
18:29 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 6919 - Follow-up - Implementing XSLTResultsDisplay
18:29 jenkins_koha * alex.arnaud: Bug 6919 - Follow up - call to XSLTParse4Display is now made twice in Search.pm
18:29 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 5877 : Offline circulation improvements : upload all files, apply at once
18:29 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 5877 Follow-up for Offline circulation improvements
18:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6919 major, P1 - high, ---, alex.arnaud, Pushed to Master , Implementing XSLTResultsDisplay
18:29 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 5877 QA follow-up
18:29 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 5877 DBrev numbering
18:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5877 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, paul.poulain, Pushed to Master , Offline circulation improvements : upload all files, apply at once
18:29 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 4912 [REVISED] After editing private list, user should be redirect to private lists
18:29 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 5503 [REVISED] comments shouldn't show patron's full name
18:29 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: bug 5503 follow-up DBrev number + added "upgrade to $DBversion" string
18:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4912 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , After editing private list, user should be redirect to private lists
18:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5503 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , comments shouldn't show patron's full name
18:30 sekjal mveron: the repo can be found here: http://gitorious.org/koha-mobile-web#more
18:31 sekjal a lot of it's hardcoded to the one institution, apparently, so generalization will require a fair amount of effort
18:31 sekjal lots of sysprefs, probably
18:32 jcamins sekjal: not to mention, they copied all the templates, and then modified them heavily.
18:33 jcamins So any new functionality since they started will need to be integrated.
18:33 mveron Does not sound encouraging...
18:33 jcamins mveron: it's a lot of work.
18:35 jcamins mveron: I think their mobile interface is the nicest I've seen, though.
18:35 sekjal ideally, the perl scripts should be the same
18:35 jcamins Ideally, yes.
18:35 sekjal it all the difference be in the templates only
18:35 mveron ^^
18:35 jcamins I don't recall whether they actually did that, though.
18:35 sekjal there are separate mobile perl files
18:36 jcamins sekjal: right... my recollection is they copied the entire tree over.
18:36 * jcamins goes to take a look.
18:37 jcamins Yeah, they copied opac/* to opac/mobile-*
18:39 mveron Oh, that is a short cut that leads to much long tem problems with maintenance, I think
18:39 jcamins mveron: oh yes.
18:39 mveron Today I helped a library to install a solution they go from Bayerische Nationalbibliothek, it's a Backpack on Sisis
18:39 jcamins That wouldn't be acceptable for inclusion in Koha.
18:39 mveron A couple of. jsp files and .css's
18:40 mveron They have to re-install it after each update.
18:40 sekjal we'll need to diff each of the mobile files from the regular files, and see if the differences can be reconciled in a single instance
18:41 sekjal then the mechanic for separating mobile and from regular template will need to be reexamined
18:41 jcamins Yup.
18:41 rangi easy peasy with TT
18:42 sekjal I think we'll need to decide on a common set of params for each page, though
18:42 jcamins Hopefully SMFPL used 3.4 or later...
18:42 rangi no wonder its so loud
18:42 rangi http://www.metservice.com/national/maps-rain-radar/maps/tasman-sea-nz-colour-latest
18:43 sekjal jcamins: looks to have branched off around 2011-07-25
18:43 mveron http://meteo.search.ch/prognosis.en.html
18:43 jcamins Yeah, that's good.
18:48 * mveron Has to prepare a demo for next week. Ponders about good "nasty questions" and good answers to them.
18:53 sekjal my brain is working at less than full capacity... is there a subroutine to give me the authorised value for a given code in a given category? there must be
18:53 cait yes
18:53 cait 2 I think one for librarian and one for the opac
18:53 cait AuthVal or something like that
18:54 sekjal getauthorisedvaluebycode
18:54 sekjal but it only does it for staff side
18:58 cait yes
18:59 cait there is another
18:59 cait hm
18:59 cait I used it once. but not sure.
19:00 cait &GetKohaAuthorisedValueLib ?
19:01 sekjal ah, yes, thank you cait, that's it
19:01 cait you are welcome
19:02 sekjal looking at my plan for bug 7372
19:02 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7372 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha.sekjal, NEW , RoadTypes should be folded into Authorised Values
19:37 bag @seen rhcl
19:37 huginn bag: rhcl was last seen in #koha 5 weeks, 6 days, 23 hours, 54 minutes, and 59 seconds ago: <rhcl> I guess I'm not very territorial, and don't see a problem with occasional collaboration or comparison between projects.
19:37 bag hey wizzyrea is greg still going by rhcl when he shows up in these parts?
19:38 wizzyrea afaik, yea
19:38 bag thanks wizzyrea
19:38 wizzyrea he hasn't been around much, I think he may be getting into evergreen? MO just signed on to a huge EG project
19:39 nengard did the upgrade of bugzilla make it so that we can't use git bz to attach patches?
19:40 wizzyrea !
19:40 nengard i got a 200 error - suspicious activity when I tried
19:40 wizzyrea did it?
19:40 wizzyrea that would be unfortunate
19:40 wizzyrea ping rangi
19:40 nengard @later tell rangi did the upgrade of bugzilla make it so that we can't use git bz to attach patches? I get a 200 error when i tried
19:40 huginn nengard: The operation succeeded.
19:46 jcamins nengard: which bug were you working on?
19:46 nengard 7641
19:48 jcamins Bug 7641.
19:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7641 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , Add ability to suspend reserves.
19:48 * jcamins nods sagely. That one is pretty suspicious.
19:53 jcamins Oh, I guess I'd better rebase bug 7284, just to make it easier for paul_p.
19:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Passed QA , Authority matching algorithm improvements
19:55 jcamins nengard: did you get it working, or did you attach it manually?
19:55 nengard manually
20:00 jcamins Hrm. The new patch for bug 7400 doesn't seem to do anything.
20:00 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7400 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, matthias.meusburger, Needs Signoff , Add auto-completion on auth_finder
20:05 jcamins Ah, syntax error.
20:07 jcamins Fixed it.
20:08 cait jcamins++
20:08 cait night all
20:08 sekjal night, cait!
20:14 rangi yep
20:15 rangi https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=703983
20:15 huginn 04Bug 703983: was not found.
20:15 rangi was fixed
20:15 rangi so now you need a valid token to upload an attachment
20:15 jcamins So git-bz won't work anymore?
20:15 rangi not doing attach
20:16 rangi it was exploiting a security vulnerability
20:16 jcamins Eww. How do we get valid tokens?
20:16 jcamins Without git-bz attach, signing things off won't be nearly so painless.
20:18 rangi yep, we need to fix git-bz to get a valid token and submit that
20:19 rangi previously you only needed a token to edit an attachement, now you need it to add one too (which makes sense to me)
20:19 jcamins Yes, that makes sense.
20:19 rangi so i need to read the code of git-bz
20:20 jcamins rangi++
20:20 schuster how can I rerun the webinstaller to get basic configurations set after it has already been run?
20:20 jcamins You can't.
20:20 schuster So basically "reinstall?"
20:21 jcamins It populates the database during the initial webinstall run.
20:21 jcamins You could delete your database, but then you'd lose all your data.
20:21 schuster Database is empty
20:21 jcamins In that case, you could drop all the tables.
20:22 schuster can we drop the database and create it again and redo that step of the installer?
20:22 jcamins Yup.
20:22 schuster k thanks
20:23 jcamins You're welcome.
20:24 rangi yeah in update patch it does this
20:24 rangi if patch.token:
20:24 rangi fields['token'] = patch.token
20:24 rangi and some other stuff with tokens
20:25 rangi so need to do that for adding too
20:35 schuster next question how can I tell how big my zebradb is?
20:36 jcamins the first question?
20:36 wahanui the first question is "What are you trying to do?"
20:38 jcamins schuster: that was directed at you.
20:39 cjh heh
20:43 schuster I'm trying to size correctly the VM environment for our install
20:43 jcamins schuster: ah.
20:43 wizzyrea how big is your DB on disk?
20:43 schuster and it seems like the last time I investigated it that was larger then everything else.
20:44 schuster DB on disk is 7 gig
20:44 jcamins schuster: du -hc /var/lib/zebradb
20:44 wizzyrea ^^
20:46 rangi can someone try a git-bz attach now?
20:46 schuster thanks!
20:47 wizzyrea there's a test bug!
20:47 schuster darn testy bugs
20:47 wizzyrea bug 6473
20:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6473 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, wizzyrea, REOPENED , Test bug for Git-bz
20:47 wizzyrea wait do I need anything for git bz?
20:47 wizzyrea a patch or anything?
20:47 rangi yep i just tested it
20:47 rangi nope
20:48 wizzyrea okies
20:48 wizzyrea hmm, can't obsolete...
20:48 * wizzyrea tries again without -e
20:49 wizzyrea but without -e yea, it works
20:50 wizzyrea i got terribly spoiled being able to obsolete from the command line >.>
20:51 rangi hmm lemme check the obsolete bit
20:52 wizzyrea looks like you don't even get the 20s anymore
20:52 wizzyrea error looks similar to the timeout.
20:52 pastebot "wizzyrea" at 24.124.17.146 pasted "obsolete error" (21 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/289
20:53 rangi try with -e again
20:53 wizzyrea check. un mo.
20:53 wizzyrea much better :D
20:53 wizzyrea ty
20:54 wizzyrea rangi++ awesome, all better
20:57 bag 7641
20:57 bag bug 7641
20:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7641 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Signed Off , Add ability to suspend reserves.
20:58 wizzyrea ooo fun
20:59 wizzyrea also, the bugzilla emails are MUCH nicer now
20:59 wizzyrea :P
20:59 jcamins wizzyrea: funny... I thought they were a lot worse.
21:00 jcamins Absolutely unreadable on a phone.
21:00 wizzyrea hrmph.
21:00 * wizzyrea wonders if it's per-user configurable
21:00 wizzyrea because I wouldn't trade them :P
21:01 jcamins It is.
21:01 jcamins I changed them back.
21:01 wizzyrea :)
21:02 wizzyrea ohh, and the classic theme is much less depressing.
21:02 wizzyrea lot less grey :)
21:02 jcamins Yay!
21:02 wizzyrea I approve of what you did there, rangi.
21:03 wizzyrea http://screencast.com/t/JvrxmJXFDC
21:03 jcamins Ooh, that is nicer.
21:03 jcamins wizzyrea++ # great caption
21:03 jcamins Also, great minds think alike... I, too, am currently staring at that list.
21:03 wizzyrea hehe
21:04 wizzyrea wow, I feel happier just not looking at all of that grey!
21:04 wizzyrea what in gods name were they thinking.
21:04 wizzyrea I know, we'll take a forum that will by design be rife with criticism, and make it soul crushing grey!
21:04 * wizzyrea facepalms
21:06 jcamins lol
21:06 wizzyrea I should have explored my options a lot sooner.
21:07 jcamins I shall sign off on bug 7261.
21:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7261 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, juan.sieira, Needs Signoff , System Preference to select the first day of week (Sunday or Monday) to use in the calendar (OPAC and Intranet)
21:09 sekjal ah! tried switching to Bugzilla classic skin. too bright, too bright! my eyes!
21:09 * wizzyrea loves it! LOVES it.
21:09 * wizzyrea hated all the grey.
21:09 * sekjal grew up in WA
21:09 wizzyrea oh, well yea,
21:09 wizzyrea you'd like grey.
21:10 * wizzyrea grew up in kansas, I like colors and light!
21:10 jcamins Okay... where would I find a calendar?
21:10 wizzyrea all we have is blue and brown here, and sometimes green.
21:10 jcamins Serials.
21:10 wizzyrea holidays
21:10 jcamins Holidays. Good one.
21:12 * sekjal grew up on the great grey-green greasy Columbia River, all set about with pine trees
21:12 sekjal so, greens and blues and greys.
21:12 sekjal and lots of black
21:13 wizzyrea yea, not much black in kansas.
21:18 jcamins There are a gazillion calendar widgets in Koha.
21:19 jcamins I just don't find this a compelling enough feature to justify checking every single calendar.
21:20 rangi so what i did was hack bugzilla to go, oh your coming from git bz, yeah, youre token is broken, i dont care
21:21 rangi which works for now
21:21 rangi but what i really want to do is fix git-bz
21:21 rangi youre=your
21:21 sekjal wizzyrea: in your testing of bug 7001, did you poke at overdue notices?
21:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7001 enhancement, P3, ---, srdjan, Signed Off , User Configurable Slips
21:22 wizzyrea Yes, I looked at them and they *seemed* to be correct
21:22 wizzyrea did you find something?
21:22 sekjal no, just curious
21:22 wizzyrea sometimes it's hard to tell in testing because you have to fabricate a situation
21:22 sekjal I'm kinda loopy right now... probably shouldn't be QAing, but I want to get 7001 through the gate
21:22 wizzyrea but I recall fabricating that situation
21:23 bag wizzyrea: ssshhhh… I just want skejal to pass it ;)
21:23 bag s/skejal/sekjal
21:23 * wizzyrea wants it too, but I'd like it to be right, too.
21:23 wizzyrea :)
21:23 bag wizzyrea: sssshhhhhhhh
21:23 * wizzyrea did partially pay for it, after all.
21:23 bag heh
21:23 * bag just having fun ;)
21:23 wizzyrea I know :)
21:24 sekjal it's looking pretty solid. srdjan addressed the concerns I had about mod_perl
21:24 wizzyrea wooooot
21:24 sekjal explained why it was done that way...
21:24 wizzyrea we should, probably double check the overdues on a real-ish data set
21:24 wizzyrea the email notices in general
21:25 rangi yep, srdjan may not always understand koha, but he has more perl experience than most of us put together
21:25 wizzyrea and he's oh my incredibly patient.
21:25 rangi http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/6516432/Weather-bomb-hits-Wellington
21:25 bag yeah totally patient
21:26 * wizzyrea does a double take... bomb... wellington... oh, WEATHER bomb.
21:26 wizzyrea chairman wow!
21:26 wizzyrea 150kph!
21:26 wizzyrea lordie.
21:29 rangi yeah its windy
21:31 rangi hmm i didnt get enough sleep to puzzle out this python, ill try again tomorrow
21:41 sekjal bug 7001
21:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7001 enhancement, P3, ---, srdjan, Passed QA , User Configurable Slips
21:41 wizzyrea ooh!!!!!!
21:41 wizzyrea love love love love love
21:41 rangi yay!
21:41 sekjal some followups are needed, and the second patch needs testing
21:41 sekjal but the core of it is, as far as I can tell, good stuff
21:41 wizzyrea rangi you will um, buy srdjan a drink for us the next time you see him right :P
21:42 wizzyrea because getting that done was a bit of a trial. ;)
21:42 sekjal and if there are bugs yet to trace out, they'll be a lot easier to deal with in this new structure than the old.
21:42 wizzyrea mhm
21:44 sekjal srdjan++
21:44 rangi yep, hes coming to wellington to work a few days next week
21:51 bag papa++
21:52 bag that's his nick right?
21:52 wizzyrea oh is it?
21:52 * wizzyrea doesn't know
21:52 bag ok next to QA… QAM is bug 7641
21:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7641 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Signed Off , Add ability to suspend reserves.
21:52 bag tap.. tap.. tap.. tapp….
21:52 bag man I'm a bugger today
21:53 wizzyrea O.o
21:54 sekjal not tonight on 7641... need to go home and get some sleep. perhaps this weekend
21:54 bag heh
21:54 bag right on sekjal
21:54 bag hey sekjal is the beer ready yet?
21:54 bag rangi: when are we going to get you to brew you're own?
21:54 sekjal bag: almost. I need to wash the bottles and get ready to bottle
21:54 bag s/you're/your
21:54 bag ahhhh…
21:55 rangi i used to still got all the gear downstairs somewhere
21:55 bag well once you bottle - I'd say try one after like 10 days ;)
21:55 bag oh right on rangi
21:55 bag I didn't know
21:55 sekjal bag: sounds good. hopefully I didn't make 5 gallons of swill
21:56 bag do you have an auto-siphon ?
21:56 sekjal bag: no
21:56 bag if not sometimes you'll get a little in your mouth - and you can taste it
21:56 rangi this house doesnt have a nice place to store it, nothing with a good constant temperature like my old house
21:56 bag I mean siphon from fermentor to bottling bucket
21:56 bag rangi go for a lager :)
21:57 sekjal temperature has been a problem this batch... I had to leave the beer in a small room with a heater on, but the door slightly cracked, to get the right balance
21:57 sekjal been letting it condition in cooler temperatures for over a week now, hoping to precipitate some of the cloudiness out
21:59 rangi http://garageproject.co.nz/BEERS
21:59 bag awesome
21:59 rangi 24 beers in 24 weeks
21:59 bag nice
21:59 wizzyrea holy smokes.
22:00 rangi http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lq43noXRFr1qiqr26.jpg
22:00 rangi http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lq43ok8RC61qiqr26.jpg
22:00 wizzyrea i approve.
22:00 sekjal neat
22:01 rangi 23/24 Shock & Awe
22:01 rangi American Double IPA
22:02 rangi This beer is 10% abv. Be mindful of the threat of collateral damage. Lock and load..
22:02 sekjal ok, time for me to catch my bus
22:02 sekjal have a great night and weekend, #koha!
22:03 wizzyrea "collateral damage"
22:03 * wizzyrea nods
22:08 maximep just tasted 4 beers with 10% alcool, so I can say there's damage -_-
22:08 wizzyrea I think they're too strong. but I *am* a wimp.
22:08 maximep hmmm a message from the bot... and I closed the window
22:08 maximep oops
22:09 rangi ah was from m
22:09 rangi e
22:09 maximep yes, saw that
22:09 maximep a link to something
22:09 maximep no logs in my client -_-
22:09 rangi 2 secs ill get the link again
22:10 rangi http://accessconference.ca/2012/03/01/access-2012-dates-announced/
22:10 maximep well I also am a wimp because i'm almost drunk -_-
22:10 maximep oh, interesting
22:10 maximep anyone u know is going ?
22:11 * wizzyrea refrains from the usual admonition to drunken developers
22:11 rangi quite a few evergreen people will be
22:11 maximep we went a few months ago to a something like that
22:11 rangi i went to it last year in vancouver, was very good
22:11 maximep and probably will get a few koha clients from that event =)
22:11 rangi excellent
22:11 maximep everyone really liked with koha =)
22:12 maximep *liked koha
22:12 jcamins Yeah, it'll be nice not to be on a main street.
22:13 jcamins It does get a bit loud in this apartment.
22:28 bag rangi?
22:28 wahanui I LIKE ALMONDS! HAVE SOME NUTS!
22:33 wizzyrea he may be afk
22:35 bag bummer I switched my nick and left him a bunch of @later's from melia ;)
22:35 bag heh
22:35 bag I'm evil
22:36 wizzyrea lol
22:36 wizzyrea you are silly.
22:37 NateC @later tell wizzyrea FART FART FART
22:37 huginn NateC: The operation succeeded.
22:37 wizzyrea lolwut
22:37 * wizzyrea giggles
22:37 bag heh
22:38 bag yeah me too
22:38 wizzyrea i bet ^.^
22:38 bag NateC?
22:38 wahanui I LIKE SPACE AND MY WIFE
22:38 * wizzyrea nods
22:38 bag ahh that's so nice
22:38 wizzyrea bag?
22:38 wahanui bag is sleeping right now :)
22:38 bag oh no!!!!
22:38 wizzyrea oh, that explains it
22:38 wizzyrea lol
22:38 bag wahanui: forget bag
22:38 wahanui bag: I forgot bag
22:39 bag I liked my old one…
22:39 bag bag?
22:39 wizzyrea what was the old one?
22:39 bag I LIKE BASEBALL
22:39 wizzyrea so
22:39 bag or something like that
22:39 wizzyrea bag is <reply> I LIKE BASEBALL
22:39 wizzyrea bag?
22:39 wahanui I LIKE BASEBALL
22:39 wizzyrea :)
22:39 bag :D
22:40 * wizzyrea runs around shouting "I'M HELPING"
22:40 bag haha
22:40 bag wizzyrea?
22:40 wahanui I LIKE SCIENCE!
22:40 wizzyrea it's true ;)
22:40 talljoy bag: stop causing trouble...get back to work
22:40 bag talljoy?
22:40 wahanui I CRUNCH DATA
22:40 bag noice
22:40 * talljoy taps her foot impatiently
22:40 bag edveal?
22:40 wahanui edveal is, like, good friends with Ruth (DRuth) and have been for years
22:40 talljoy ago43?
22:41 edveal Yep...
22:41 talljoy wahanui doesn't know ago43!!!
22:41 wahanui talljoy: i'm not following you...
22:41 maximep maximep is <reply> I LIKE PLAYING DRUMS AND METAL MUSIC
22:41 maximep -_-
22:41 wizzyrea ago43
22:41 wizzyrea ago43?
22:41 wahanui quite possibly the sweetest person ever
22:41 talljoy who did that?
22:42 bag ago43 is <reply> The man with lot's of doggies and quite possibly the sweetest person ever
22:42 talljoy is true. i must say
22:42 bag ago43?
22:42 wahanui quite possibly the sweetest person ever
22:42 wizzyrea no no
22:42 wizzyrea like this
22:42 talljoy wahanui doesn't like bag
22:42 wahanui talljoy: excuse me?
22:42 bag oh poop I don't think I'm registered
22:42 wizzyrea ago 43 is also the man with lots of doggies
22:42 wizzyrea ago43 is also the man with lots of doggies
22:42 wahanui okay, wizzyrea.
22:42 wizzyrea ago43?
22:42 wahanui quite possibly the sweetest person ever or the man with lots of doggies
22:42 bag ago43?
22:42 wahanui quite possibly the sweetest person ever or the man with lots of doggies
22:42 maximep maximep?
22:42 wahanui I LIKE PLAYING DRUMS AND METAL MUSIC
22:42 maximep -_-
22:42 bag ahh that's what happens when I can't be brendan
22:43 wizzyrea nah, wahanui doesn't require registration
22:43 wizzyrea only huginn :)
22:43 bag ahhh…
22:43 bag oh well
22:43 bag *sigh*
22:43 * wizzyrea works the bots so you don't have to
22:43 talljoy phew
22:43 bag @eightball will this weekend rock?
22:43 huginn bag: What are you asking me for?
22:43 wizzyrea i know, you're all so glad to know that *that* critical detail is taken care of
22:43 bag @eightball am I insane?
22:43 huginn bag: One would be wise to think so.
22:43 talljoy HAHAHAHA
22:43 wizzyrea ^^ kekek
22:44 bag are you koren?
22:44 maximep @eightball do I have to work 3 hours extra next week because I didn't do them this week ?
22:44 huginn maximep: One would be wise to think so.
22:44 bag wizzyrea is also koren
22:44 wahanui okay, bag.
22:44 talljoy wizzyrea?
22:44 wahanui I LIKE SCIENCE! or koren
22:44 wizzyrea koren?
22:44 wizzyrea koren is bag's bad way of spelling "Korean"
22:44 bag @eightball will I happen to find a bag full of money this weekend?
22:44 huginn bag: I doubt it very much.
22:45 wizzyrea wizzyrea is not koren
22:45 bag fucking typos
22:45 bag heh
22:45 wizzyrea wizzyrea?
22:45 wahanui I LIKE SCIENCE! or koren
22:45 bag wizzyrea: is not koren
22:45 talljoy wizzyrea is not koren
22:45 wizzyrea forget wizzyrea
22:45 wahanui wizzyrea: I forgot wizzyrea
22:45 talljoy lol
22:45 wizzyrea wizzyrea is <reply> I LIKE SCIENCE!
22:45 wizzyrea wizzyrea?
22:45 wahanui I LIKE SCIENCE!
22:45 wizzyrea like so :)
22:45 talljoy all is right with the world now
22:46 bag wizzyrea is also KOREAN
22:46 wahanui okay, bag.
22:46 wizzyrea talljoy is also kicking butt at words with friends
22:46 wahanui okay, wizzyrea.
22:46 talljoy LOL
22:46 talljoy i like words
22:46 talljoy big ones
22:46 wizzyrea not "words with people who used to be friends"
22:46 talljoy no that's treas version
22:46 wizzyrea hehe
22:46 talljoy or thatchmo as the case may be today
22:47 wizzyrea well clearly it's 4:45 on a friday in the US on #koha
22:47 bag ah where'd thatchmo go?
22:47 bag no it's 2:45
22:47 wizzyrea pft, crazy westerners.
22:48 wizzyrea I have girl scout cookies, and I'm not afraid to use them.
22:48 bag noice
22:48 wizzyrea made from real girl scouts.
22:48 bag I like girl scout
22:48 talljoy nom nom
22:48 bag cookiees
22:48 bag whoops I totally hit the enter key way way too early there
22:50 talljoy okay, i've got to go get ready for date night part deux
23:03 wizzyrea and I'm out, later peeps