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03:28 Amit_Gupta heya bag
05:48 cait good morning '#koha
05:50 eythian hi cait
05:50 cait morning eythian :)
05:50 cait hm evening...
05:50 wahanui evening is better for me - but not too late
05:50 Amit_Gupta heya cait, eythaina
05:53 eythian yeah, definitely evening
05:54 cait how was monday?
05:56 eythian almost finished, preparing to spend the rest of the week in Auckland
05:57 eythian and, think I'm done now. Time to mosey. See y'all later.
06:08 cait bye eythian
07:12 alex_a bonjour
07:24 magnuse kia ora #koha!
07:31 cait hi magnuse
07:31 magnuse guten morgen cait
07:46 reiveune hello
07:47 wahanui salut, reiveune
07:47 marcelr hi koha
07:48 julian_m hi
07:58 gaetan_B good morning
07:58 wahanui good morning is, like, it to you
08:00 hdl wahanui: forget good morning
08:00 wahanui hdl: I forgot good morning
08:17 asaurat hi
08:17 marcelr hi asaurat
08:17 marcelr asaurat: was looking at 7422 again
08:19 asaurat ok, just read your last comment, I'll remember this for the next version!
08:25 kf good morning #koha
08:25 asaurat hi kf!
08:25 marcelr hi kf
08:26 kf hi asaurat and marcelr :)
08:26 kf hi francharb
08:26 francharb hi kf
09:05 kf marcelr: thx for qa - nasty bug
09:05 marcelr np
09:05 kf marcelr++ :)
09:05 kf I used the bib-level index for a patch
09:06 kf the test plan is quite insane... but perhaps you can check if it makes sense? related to rcn searches
09:07 Amit_Gupta heya kf
09:07 kf bug 7609
09:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7609 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , Improving links to find analytics and volumes when using UseControlnumber
09:11 marcelr kf: will take a quick look now
09:11 kf marcelr: it's not elegant... but seems to work
09:12 kf I know you activated the bib-level index and you are using $w links - so best choice to ask for an opinion :)
09:12 marcelr :-)
09:38 kf marcelr++
09:39 kf guess I got so confused about all those positions and codes yesterday... I totally forgot staff even existed
09:44 marcelr ;)
09:54 * paul_p switches to mode "pushing patches" ...
09:54 paul_p (good morning world)
09:54 kf morning paul_p
09:54 marcelr hi paul_p: happy pushing ;)
09:55 kf paul_p: bad bugs waiting for you:)
10:02 kf marcelr: I think paul_p knows about the browser table
10:19 vfernandes hi Koha community :)
10:21 vfernandes It's possible to grow the MARC spec size? I have some records in MARCXML bigger than 99999 bytes
10:21 kf use xml
10:22 kf I don't think there is a way to do it for the .mrc format
10:22 vfernandes i'm using XML
10:22 kf hm
10:22 kf and it's complaining
10:22 kf ?
10:22 vfernandes but when using the bulkmarcimport.pl it's complaining
10:22 kf I think there might be an option
10:23 vfernandes the record are added to the database but when running the rebuild_zebra que proccess does not complet
10:23 kf ah
10:23 kf I think there is a -x
10:24 kf for the rebuld_zebra
10:24 kf have you tried looking at the options?
10:24 magnuse yup, -x for indexing marcxml
10:25 kf http://lists.katipo.co.nz/public/koha/2012-January/031664.html
10:25 vfernandes hummm i see :) thanks
10:25 vfernandes thanks kf and magnuse
10:26 vfernandes sometimes its faster to ask here than check the documentation :P
10:29 vfernandes doing data migration from ALEPH to Koha is driving me crazy...
10:29 magnuse :-(
10:31 vfernandes the client didn't know anything about the system database, and there wasn't a single export script to the records
10:32 vfernandes we had do look at every table of the database to see where the records/items where
10:35 magnuse ouch
10:38 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7558: Serial issue note doubled up in full history <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a80fc7903ce35158611c21b1a2703936b8afb163> / Bug 7559: Edit links for patron attributes and message preferences broken <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=dacbb54a2fc84ed0154241bdbc1ecace6997ae5c> / Bug 3916 [follow-up] : Adding a default choice in every dropdown list, not only
10:48 jenkins_koha Starting build #639 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
10:52 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6875] de-nesting C4 packages <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6875>
11:13 kf !jenkins botsnack chocolate chip cookie
11:13 jenkins_koha kf: great! yum yum. I could eat chocolate chip cookie all day long
11:18 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_3215' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=80c202170aa06f8be8b0a2a528e15d1341bcb59d> / Bug 3215 [REBASED] It would be nice if "Add to Cart" changed to "Remove from Cart" <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=95ead9a42be498da827812e64795f403f4f9e6c7> / Bug 7576: Add ISSN to SearchForTitleIn preference <http://git.koha-communit
11:22 paul_p ok, time for lunch. 2 patches that passed QA still to deal with, will do that after lunch
11:22 marcelr paul_p++
11:23 paul_p marcelr feel free to continue QAing & feeding me ;-)
11:23 marcelr :-)
11:29 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #639: SUCCESS in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/639/
11:29 jenkins_koha * stephane.delaune: Bug 7460: followup : Add template toolkit's FILTER html_line_break on staff details description's tab
11:29 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 6875 follow-up for Items/Biblio de-nesting
11:29 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7606: Editing a vendor in acq creates a new vendor
11:29 jenkins_koha * f.demians: Bug 6895 Diacritics in Pootle/po files are broken in source text
11:29 jenkins_koha * sophie.meynieux: Bug 3916 [follow-up] : Adding a default choice in every dropdown list, not only branches, to let the corresponding value unchanged
11:29 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7559: Edit links for patron attributes and message preferences broken
11:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7460 minor, P5 - low, ---, stephane.delaune, Pushed to Master , nl2br in opac Title notes tab
11:29 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7558: Serial issue note doubled up in full history
11:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6875 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , de-nesting C4 packages
11:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7606 blocker, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Editing a vendor in acq creates a new vendor
11:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6895 blocker, P1 - high, ---, chris, Pushed to Master , Diacritics in Pootle/po files are broken in source text
11:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3916 critical, P2, ---, sophie.meynieux, Pushed to Master , Batch Modify tool overwrites dropdown fields - no option for "no change"
11:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7559 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Edit links for patron attributes and messaging preferences are broken
11:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7558 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Serial issue note doubled up in full history
11:29 jenkins_koha Starting build #640 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
12:09 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #640: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/640/
12:09 jenkins_koha * lrea: Bug 7110 - Renewal messages still displays in OPAC if OpacRenewalAllowed is disabled.
12:09 jenkins_koha * m.de.rooy: 7453 Followup for borrower without expiry date
12:09 jenkins_koha * cnighswonger: Bug 7585 - Correct MARC 008 Value Builder Char 06 Default
12:09 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7576: Add ISSN to SearchForTitleIn preference
12:09 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7110 normal, P3, ---, wizzyrea, Pushed to Master , Renewal messages still displays in OPAC if OpacRenewalAllowed is disabled.
12:09 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 3215 [REBASED] It would be nice if "Add to Cart" changed to "Remove from Cart"
12:09 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7585 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, Pushed to Master , Correct MARC 008 Value Builder Char 06 Default
12:09 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7576 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Add ISSN to SearchForTitleIn
12:09 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3215 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , It would be nice if "Add to Cart" changed to "Remove from Cart"
12:13 janPasi Well this is strange...
12:13 janPasi I have book with three items
12:13 janPasi koha shows me that all the items are "on loan"
12:14 janPasi but they're not
12:14 janPasi when I go to items the all show "not checked out"
12:15 janPasi the due date is 00/02/0
12:16 janPasi does this have something to do with 952q field?
12:17 janPasi they're imported items, so this is how they got into the system
12:17 janPasi do i need to remove the 952q to make them show as available?
12:17 janPasi that seems to do the trick, but is it how it should be done
12:20 janPasi or was there some script that i needed to run to fix this?
12:25 * paul_p head to push 3516 ...
12:25 paul_p janPasi it maybe because your zebra is de-synchronised and has the "old" information.
12:26 paul_p are you sure your zebraqueue is OK ?
12:26 paul_p (SELECT * from zebraqueue WHERE done=0 should be empty)
12:26 paul_p (or contain only things that have been updated in the last minutes)
12:28 janPasi hang on, I'll check that
12:28 janPasi though, the system actually only has a few items
12:28 janPasi at the moment
12:30 janPasi "Empty set"
12:32 janPasi so that's ok then?
12:33 kf janPasi: due date empty for not checked out items should be ok
12:33 kf but after updating your items table, you will have to reindex
12:35 janPasi kf: err...? so what should i do? run rebuild_zebra?
12:37 kf yes
12:37 kf when you use sql on your items table
12:37 kf you will always want to reindex
12:38 kf so your search indexes match what's in the itmes table
12:40 janPasi well, they still show "on loan"
12:40 janPasi no, not on loan :D
12:40 janPasi i want "on loan" to go away :D
12:40 kf now you confuse me
12:40 kf what is the status
12:40 wahanui the status is not set, I tried receive and an additional check in
12:41 kf in items
12:41 kf what is oyur notforloan value?
12:42 janPasi well this is not a lending library
12:42 janPasi but to be honest, i don't know :D
12:42 janPasi i didn't create/import those items
12:42 janPasi somebody else did
12:43 janPasi not for loan is unset
12:43 janPasi in items
12:43 janPasi let me check if it's set for itemtypes
12:44 janPasi not set there either it seems
12:45 janPasi kf: this is strange indeed
12:45 janPasi because when i do a search and koha returns the results
12:45 janPasi these items show "on loan"
12:47 janPasi but when i go to the items, they all show "not checked out"
12:47 janPasi so koha seems to think that they both are checked out and aren't
12:47 janPasi must be something wrong with the imported record, but what?
12:53 janPasi well i asked the person that added those to the system to send me the file from which they're imported
12:53 janPasi maybe that'll give me a clue
12:54 jcamins_away janPasi: if you're seeing different statuses in results and details, that indicates that you don't have your rebuild_zebra cron job running.
12:55 janPasi it's running and i also ran it manually a few minutes ago
12:55 jcamins_away janPasi: and it shows the wrong status in search results both in Intranet and OPAC?
12:55 janPasi i haven't checked opac
12:55 janPasi hang on, i'll do that
12:56 marcelr hi jcamins
12:56 marcelr jcamins++ for 7310
12:56 janPasi opac shows them "available"
12:56 jcamins_away marcelr++
12:56 jcamins_away janPasi: and that's correct?
12:56 jcamins_away marcelr: I'm very excited for 7310 to be pushed.
12:56 marcelr me too
12:57 jcamins_away It's a really, really cool feature.
12:57 marcelr can do some followup
12:57 janPasi and not
12:57 janPasi :D
12:57 janPasi if i search for the title of the book
12:57 janPasi then it shows them available
12:57 janPasi but a wider search with more results on the list
12:57 janPasi shows on loan
12:58 jcamins_away janPasi: could you post screen shots of all this?
12:58 jcamins_away I'm having trouble following.
12:58 janPasi http://gmc.koha.kepa.fi/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=suomi
12:58 janPasi take a look
12:58 janPasi http://gmc.koha.kepa.fi/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=3
12:59 jcamins Thank you.
12:59 janPasi strange, isn't it? :D
13:00 jcamins Yes. I've seen that many times, but it's always been because rebuild_zebra.pl -b -z hasn't run recently.
13:01 janPasi well that doesn't help in this case :(
13:02 janPasi (just to be sure i ran it again, but it didn't make any difference)
13:03 jcamins How many records are in the catalog?
13:04 janPasi just three
13:04 janPasi this is a whole new system
13:04 janPasi two of them have three items
13:04 janPasi and one of them has only one item
13:04 jcamins Good.
13:04 jcamins Reindex.
13:05 jcamins (-r instead of -z)
13:05 janPasi done
13:05 janPasi no change
13:06 * jcamins is out of ideas.
13:06 janPasi there must be something wrong with the imported record itself
13:07 jcamins Oh!
13:07 jcamins I just found the problem.
13:07 jcamins You are right.
13:08 jcamins checked out is set to 0000-00-00.
13:08 janPasi oh?
13:08 jcamins There was a bug about that.
13:08 jcamins It should be NULL, I think.
13:08 jcamins There's a script to fix that.
13:08 jcamins Is this an old version of Koha?
13:08 janPasi nope
13:08 janPasi it's 3.6
13:08 janPasi but the records might be from an older koha
13:08 jcamins Hm.
13:09 janPasi actually i'm pretty sure that that particular record is from an older koha
13:09 jcamins Well, I'm pretty sure there's a script to fix that.
13:09 jcamins Somewhere on bugzilla.
13:09 janPasi ok :D
13:10 janPasi so now it's just a question of finding it :D
13:10 jcamins Right.
13:10 hdl jcamins: iirc yes there is. but in updatedatabase.
13:11 kf jcamins: I think you think about the debarred date :)
13:11 janPasi i can't fix that by running some sql?
13:11 kf or that was a recent problem at least
13:11 jcamins kf: oh, maybe that's what I was thinking of.
13:12 kf jcamins: wouldn't it work to set it to null and reindex?
13:12 jcamins janPasi: you could, yes.
13:12 janPasi what should i run then?
13:12 jcamins kf: right, there's a script that takes care of the zebraqueue bit for that, too.
13:12 jcamins That question would be why I suggested you find the script.
13:13 jcamins ;)
13:13 janPasi oh, ok :D
13:22 * paul_p switches to mode "passing QA"
13:23 oleonard Hi #koha
13:24 kf hi oleonard :)
13:30 * jcamins waves
13:30 kf hi jcamins :)
13:38 marcelr hi oleonard
13:38 paul_p good morning USA
13:39 marcelr did anyone of you think about how to translate opacnav (or similar..) ?
13:39 * oleonard speaks for all of USA when he says "Good morning to you too paul_p"
13:39 paul_p ;-)
13:39 paul_p marcelr nope, and I think there's no solution for now
13:39 marcelr too bad
13:40 paul_p ( oleonard in fact, I can confirm my morning *was* good. and ended now ;-) )
13:41 kf marcelr: opacnav in different languages?
13:42 kf marcelr: I was thinking about using the news editor perhaps... but would need programming :(
13:47 kf marcelr: perhaps if there was something on the page indicating the language... you could use jquery to toggle display:none on different text blocks
13:47 kf and if there was a class... or something in the css... we coudl do it using css even
13:47 marcelr kf: you must know when generating the page
13:47 kf not necessaril
13:47 kf y
13:48 kf you put all text in opac-nav english, german, whatever
13:48 kf in differnt <div> tags
13:48 oleonard Jquery can access the <html> tag's "lang" attribute
13:48 kf and then on load
13:48 kf the jquery
13:48 wahanui the jquery is client side, so it doesn't have anything to do with the templating system
13:48 oleonard (in firefox at least)
13:48 kf hides everything that doesnot match
13:49 marcelr so we must pass the lang and then do it via jquery script
13:49 kf or the css .de-DE .en {display:none}
13:49 marcelr ok
13:49 kf we only need a hook
13:52 janPasi oh
13:52 janPasi where's the bugzilla nowdays?
13:54 janPasi found it
13:54 janPasi my bookmark had expired
13:58 paul_p marcelr QAing 7467
14:00 janPasi http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2708
14:00 huginn 04Bug 2708: major, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Checked out items saying available
14:00 * oleonard thanks jcamins for testing his patch for Bug 4048
14:00 marcelr bug 7467
14:00 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4048 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , CSS and JS libs must be outside of translated paths
14:00 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7467 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Signed Off , Printing Transfer Slips that do not have holds
14:00 janPasi this is the only thing i found that's related to the problem we're experiencing
14:01 janPasi but there is no script to fix it or anything
14:01 janPasi though 2708 is actually exactly the opposite to our problem :D
14:01 jcamins janPasi: well, you can try figuring out the query yourself. :)
14:03 janPasi which marc-field does the "checked out" information actually come from?
14:06 jcamins janPasi: it comes from the database. Somewhere in the items table.
14:06 oleonard There is an 'onloan' column in items
14:07 janPasi so it's not 952q?
14:07 jcamins janPasi: it's inserted into the MARC record by Perl.
14:07 jcamins That could be where it's stored.
14:07 jcamins janPasi: did you run remove_items_from_biblioitems?
14:10 janPasi jcamins: nope
14:10 janPasi jcamins: i remebered that there was something like that, but couldn't remember exactly what it was
14:11 janPasi now i ran it
14:11 janPasi but it still shows the items on loan
14:11 oleonard Thanks for re-testing 5503 nengard
14:12 nengard no prob
14:12 nengard it's a patch i really like!! :)
14:12 janPasi what if i use marcedit to get rid of 952q alltogether before importing the records?
14:12 janPasi would that be a problem later?
14:12 jcamins janPasi: I am out of ideas. At this point I think it's just a matter of trial and error.
14:12 jcamins You can let us know if that causes problems. ;)
14:13 janPasi ok :D
14:13 * oleonard wonders what jcamins thinks of Bug 7600
14:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7600 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, NEW , Have book cover image script return single-pixel gif data
14:13 jcamins oleonard: seems like a good idea.
14:14 jcamins oleonard: it's on my to-do list, now that you've suggested it, though it'll probably remain there for quite a while.
14:15 oleonard I would do it myself if I knew how jcamins
14:16 jcamins If my mind were working, I'd do it today, but my mind isn't.
14:16 libsysguy ^^
14:18 paul_p marcelr are you QAing this afternoon ?
14:18 * paul_p QAing non-BibLibre patches
14:18 marcelr no unfortunately.. ;)
14:19 * jcamins hates being sick.
14:20 jcamins Totally uncalled for.
14:20 * oleonard isn't sick but pulled a muscle in his shoulder
14:20 oleonard Now I can't turn my head to the left
14:20 jcamins Ouch.
14:21 jcamins I can turn my head in both directions. I just checked.
14:21 marcelr careful ;)
14:23 nengard i'm updating the manual going through old commits and i can't seem to find AllowItemsOnHandCheckout in my install of master - is it still there?
14:24 jcamins Never heard of it.
14:24 nengard bug 7090
14:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7090 enhancement, P3, ---, srdjan, Pushed to Master , Add "AllowItemsOnHandCheckout" syspref to allow issue to the patron regardless of hold status
14:24 nengard got an email on feb 10 that it was pushed
14:25 nengard and the bug says it was pushed
14:25 nengard but i'm not seeing that preference
14:25 nengard think maybe a db update was skipped on my machine
14:26 * oleonard doesn't have it either
14:27 nengard paul_p?
14:27 wahanui paul_p is the 3.8 release manager, and is very tall, and does not like coffee.
14:27 oleonard Oh, it's "AllowItemsOnHoldCheckout" nengard
14:27 kf http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git&a=search&h=a529262501df8c0c0342829a2f33bd2bcfb19ec6&st=commit&s=7090
14:27 nengard OH!
14:27 nengard thanks oleonard nevermind paul :)
14:27 janPasi \o/
14:27 janPasi Copies available
14:28 jcamins janPasi: what fixed it?
14:28 janPasi Hmm... I'm not sure
14:28 janPasi needs more testing :D
14:29 paul_p nengard yep ?
14:29 janPasi I checked all the items out and then back in
14:29 janPasi that might have been it
14:29 nengard mevermind :) oleonard figured it out
14:30 janPasi or that + remove_items_from_biblioitems + rebuild_zebra
14:30 paul_p nengard my trick for that: git log --oneline|grep 7090
14:30 paul_p bca1de8 Bug 7090 follow-up, setting DBrev number when pushing
14:30 paul_p 2041f2c bug_7090: AllowItemsOnHandCheckout syspref
14:30 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7090 enhancement, P3, ---, srdjan, Pushed to Master , Add "AllowItemsOnHoldCheckout" syspref to allow issue to the patron regardless of hold status
14:31 paul_p --oneline is your friend ;-)
14:33 * marcelr waves and leaves
14:33 kf janPasi: I think it's save to not have the field when importing,I think we did it like that.
14:35 janPasi kf: ok, cool
14:42 jcamins libsysguy: having some connection issues?
14:42 libsysguy something like that
14:43 libsysguy between meetings
14:45 janPasi I think I'll be off for today
14:45 janPasi thanks for all your help :)
15:08 Guest4045 paul_p: sorry about not changing the status on 7001. I've been under lots of stress.
15:08 paul_p Guest4045 don't worry, i've spotted it ;-)
15:08 paul_p wizzyrea : so, you will/have updated the status ?
15:08 wizzyrea yep, I just did
15:33 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6039 follow-up, DBrev number <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c55c58ee4b674ef6bd62c4d495d8ee8c799c968a> / bug 6039: Cancel All waiting holds button - Addendum: Add redirect to refresh list... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8b171f693d1f2489337a9ae81a9e57bc58c58488> / bug 6039: Cancel All waiting holds button <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.gi
15:33 jenkins_koha Starting build #641 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
15:50 kf why is powerpoint so annoying? *sigh*
16:10 reiveune bye
16:13 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #641: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/641/
16:13 jenkins_koha * srdjan: bug_7467: Printing Transfer Slips for transfers that do not have holds
16:13 jenkins_koha * kyle: bug_7467: Printing Transfer Slips for transfers that do not have holds - Addendum: Use for automatic transfers as well.
16:13 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 3901: Rollover on serials summary showing 9999999
16:13 jenkins_koha * salvazm: Bug 6008 - Locating mysql/psql commands on Installer.pm
16:13 jenkins_koha * srdjan: bug 6039: Cancel All waiting holds button
16:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3901 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Rollover on Serial showing 9999999
16:13 jenkins_koha * kyle: bug 6039: Cancel All waiting holds button - Addendum: Add redirect to refresh list after canceling all holds.
16:13 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 6039 follow-up, DBrev number
16:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6008 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, salva, Pushed to Master , Installation might fail it user web doesn't have in its path the database command path
16:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6039 enhancement, P4, ---, srdjan, Pushed to Master , Cancel all waiting holds button
16:37 slef morning #koha
16:37 slef @marc 952
16:37 wahanui The 952 field is used by Koha to store item data in MARC21 and is described at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Holdings_data_fields_%289xx%29
16:37 huginn slef: unknown tag 952
16:48 * wizzyrea highfives oleonard
17:38 paul_p OK, time to go back home. busy day pushing & QAing...
17:39 paul_p only 15 bugs to QA for now
17:39 jcamins_away Wow!
17:39 paul_p bye #koha, see you tomorrow
17:39 jcamins_away paul_p++
17:39 kf paul_p++
17:39 kf have a nice evening
17:44 kf bye all :)
17:44 kf kf will be back on thursday
17:45 jcamins_away Have a good presentation!
17:45 kf thank you :)
17:45 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7582 - When adding a Z39.50 server the "checked" option should use a checkbox <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1a5afaa26d374144d1ebde6bcf9c69b97c048a5d> / Bug 7579 - Icons for authorized values/item types not showing in OPAC <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=99f686ea8323aa47eeb12ffb2c85cf5da0ad1d65> / Bug 7575 Opac search results print alignment <http://git.
17:48 chris_n @marc 260$c
17:48 huginn chris_n: unknown tag 260$c
17:48 chris_n @marc 260c
17:48 huginn chris_n: unknown tag 260c
17:48 chris_n @marc 260
17:48 huginn chris_n: Information relating to the publication, printing, distribution, issue, release, or production of a work. (Repeatable) [a,b,c,e,f,g,3,6,8]
17:48 jenkins_koha Starting build #642 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
17:49 chris_n 260 question: should the copyright year always be proceeded by 'c'? ie. "c2012"
17:49 * chris_n seems to find it different ways
17:49 jcamins_away chris_n: if it's copyright and not publication year, yes.
17:49 chris_n and is there a preferred way to handle dating of reprints? ie. original printing in 1878 and reprint in 1977?
17:49 jcamins chris_n: however, 260$c more often contains publication year than copyright year.
17:50 kf @marc 260 c
17:50 huginn kf: Date of publication, distribution, etc. May contain multiple dates (e.g., dates of publication and copyright). (Repeatable)
17:50 jcamins 008/07=t
17:50 chris_n koha seems to match on the 'c' or take the first 4 digits in the field if no 'c' is present
17:50 chris_n but I've not looked at the code
17:50 chris_n when displaying, that is
17:51 jcamins I don't know.
17:52 chris_n my librarians are wanting to enter both print date and copyright and then have both show up in OPAC
17:52 chris_n I wonder how much interest there is in that sort of thing?
17:53 jcamins Are you sure they don't both show up?
17:53 jcamins Are you using normal as opposed to XSLT?
17:54 chris_n using normal
17:54 jcamins I think the entire field displays with XSLT.
17:54 chris_n only one shows
17:54 jcamins Maybe.
17:54 chris_n ahh
17:54 chris_n maybe I should switch to xslt
18:20 wizzyrea kf: conveniently, lifehacker has "five best powerpoint alternatives" as one of their posts today: http://feeds.gawker.com/~r/lifehacker/vip/~3/4s-BjGUCmRM/five-best-powerpoint-alternatives
18:25 cait hi #koha
18:28 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #642: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/642/
18:28 jenkins_koha * gcollum: Bug 7318: Fixes category display in patroncards Patron Search results.
18:28 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7523: Improve checks for routing permissions
18:28 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 7544 - Add ability search borrowers only on email / phone
18:28 jenkins_koha * chrish: Bug 7575 Opac search results print alignment
18:28 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 7579 - Icons for authorized values/item types not showing in OPAC
18:28 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 7582 - When adding a Z39.50 server the "checked" option should use a checkbox
18:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7318 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Filtering Patron Card Creator by Category Code Does Nothing
18:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7523 normal, P3, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Templates should respect serials routing permission
18:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7544 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Add ability search borrowers only on email / phone
18:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7575 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, chrish, Passed QA , Printing opac search results truncation in ie7/8
18:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7579 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Icons for authorized values/item types not showing in OPAC
18:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7582 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Passed QA , When adding a Z39.50 server the "checked" option should use a checkbox
18:39 wizzyrea what's maddening is that I had cait's dropdown done
18:39 wizzyrea t
18:39 wizzyrea hen had a git accident.
18:39 wizzyrea and lost it.
18:39 wizzyrea for the patron card search patron category limiter.
18:39 * wizzyrea grumps about it
18:39 cait oh :(
18:39 wizzyrea will work on it this afternoon, possibly.
18:40 cait I would offer cookies.. but lent... *sigh*
18:40 wizzyrea :) is ok
18:42 * jcamins would offer cookies... but you probably don't want a cold.
18:44 jcamins And it's a doozy of a cold. In the four and a half years we've been together, Shari could only remember me being this sick twice.
18:45 cait :(
19:10 edveal Does anyone know off the top of their heads the easiest way to make additional fields required in the suggestion form?
19:18 alaquerre Hi all, quick question for you. Does Koha is looking at the calendar to calculate the fines on the return ? What happen if I add some "close day" in the calendar while there is already books out ? Does the fine is remove the 2-3 days that we were closed ?
19:23 wizzyrea it can do that
19:23 wizzyrea there's a syspref to set it that way
19:30 alaquerre wizzyrea : Then I must do something wrong ;-) Let me triple check. Thanks for the answer!
19:30 wizzyrea it's possible there is a bug there
19:31 cait alaquerre: but if the fines are already on the account
19:31 wizzyrea oh, true
19:31 wizzyrea it won't be retroactive.
19:31 cait it will only recalculate when for fines cronjob runs the next time
19:31 cait it will, but only after the cronjob ran
19:31 wizzyrea oh, shows what I know lol. :)
19:31 cait and when you have nofinewhenclosed or however it's called set accordingly :)
19:32 cait wizzyrea: I spend way too much of my life time on fines and notices :)
19:32 alaquerre That must be the problem. Not sure when the cronjob run exactly on the test station.
19:32 alaquerre I tough that the fine was calculated on return also automatically
19:33 cait no, it's not calculated on return, the fines job does it :)
19:33 alaquerre ok thanks again all. I'll keep check this on my side.
19:34 maximep fines on return is a local modification
19:34 maximep fines cron is every hour afaik
19:35 wizzyrea most people do it once a night?
19:35 maximep yep
19:35 * wizzyrea is thankful to only have 3 fining libraries
19:35 maximep we have hourly loans
19:35 wizzyrea ah
19:35 maximep so we need hourly fines =)
19:35 wizzyrea indeed
19:35 maximep that's also the reason for fines on return
19:35 wizzyrea you should get in touch with libsysguy
19:36 maximep the way we do it is pretty different
19:36 maximep iirc
19:36 alaquerre I should ask you first but didnt want to fill a new RM :-)
19:36 maximep np =)
19:37 * libsysguy 's ears are burning
19:38 cait that sounds painful
19:38 libsysguy hehe
19:39 libsysguy im actually working on hourly
19:47 maximep I wish I could have really spend some time with your hourly branch and tested it, but it was easier to just port the one we already did for 3.2
19:48 libsysguy what version are you running maximep
19:51 maximep ?
19:51 maximep of koha ?
19:53 libsysguy yeah, I was just wondering what you mean by ported
19:53 libsysguy do you mean you just merged it?
19:55 libsysguy random question about subs…is it normal to declare those in the middle of files…like the middle of code?
19:57 maximep 3.6.0. Not sure what you mean by merged
19:57 cait libsysguy: I think maximep has his own hourly loans code
19:58 libsysguy ohhh…well played maximep
19:58 libsysguy well, you can always check out the hourly branch
19:58 libsysguy I haven't rebased mine in awhile though
20:00 maximep I tought I made it clear :S
20:00 libsysguy sorry im short on cycles today, I may have missed it
20:01 libsysguy goes back to look
20:01 maximep yeah, we have our own code
20:02 libsysguy have you looked into integrating just the fines portion of the code from hourly into yours?
20:02 libsysguy actaully…I have written a bit of code that does instant checkin if you are interested in that
20:03 maximep well it's working well for us in production for a year
20:03 maximep so we won't change something that works =)
20:03 libsysguy haha where is your sense of adventure maximep
20:04 maximep clients don't pay us to have fun trying stuff!
20:04 maximep :p
20:04 alaquerre I would say that client is very collaborative on :-P
20:05 maximep haha
20:05 maximep u are!
20:05 maximep it's also lack of time hehe
20:07 maximep koha is the only project that we have time to give back patches, so I won't ever complain!
20:10 alaquerre Maximep: Dont worry, you'll have a bit more next years... merge on 3.6 take a lot of my spare change.
20:13 alaquerre Got to go chow.
20:20 maximep np, I understand completly!
20:20 maximep the koha community is so cool and really open, so it's hard to not want to contribute every line changed hehe
20:21 maximep and well, it also is easier for us on the long run
20:23 cait it will be
20:23 wizzyrea much easier
20:24 cait we never had so many customizations, but still so happy it's all in koha now
20:24 cait making updates real fun :)
20:41 * chris_n read 'a bit of code that does instant checkin' as 'a bit of code that does instant chicken' :-P
20:43 * wizzyrea likes instant chicken
20:43 wizzyrea oh wait. no I don't
21:07 bag @seen rangi
21:07 huginn bag: rangi was last seen in #koha 3 days, 0 hours, 54 minutes, and 16 seconds ago: <rangi> bbl
21:15 Space_Librarian morning all
21:15 wizzyrea hey Space_Librarian
21:15 wahanui Space_Librarian is a Koha poet or the sweetest lil lady you'll ever know
21:15 Space_Librarian @wunder wellington, nz
21:15 huginn Space_Librarian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 14.0°C (10:00 AM NZDT on February 28, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady).
21:15 Space_Librarian hey wizzyrea - how's one of the coolest people I know this fine morning/evening?
21:16 wizzyrea cloudy with a chance of meatballs.
21:16 wizzyrea ;)
21:16 Space_Librarian :D
22:34 wizzyrea very quiet today
22:35 Space_Librarian They're all playing at being wabbits
22:36 slef I'm making like a rabbit and hopping it. ttyl!
22:36 wizzyrea later :)
22:36 Space_Librarian *waves*
22:37 * jcamins_away considers making roasted garlic biscuits
22:37 wizzyrea that sounds awesome
22:38 Space_Librarian nom!
22:38 jcamins_away Yeah, I'm gonna do it.
22:54 Judit morning
22:56 Space_Librarian morning Judit!
22:57 Judit hi knitta
22:57 Judit how are you
22:57 Space_Librarian splendid, and yourself?
22:58 Judit a happy hooka here, thanks :)
22:58 Space_Librarian just call us yarn harlots and be done with it. :p
22:58 Judit :D
23:25 * mtj waves to all in #koha
23:33 Judit eythian! i saw you this morning on the sydney pyrmont bridge!