Time  Nick              Message
23:31 librarygeekadam   thanks for the help...have a good day
23:31 librarygeekadam   ok i will do that
23:30 rangi             probably best to ask on the vufind site/mailing list etc
23:30 librarygeekadam   do you know where i can get the driver file for koha (koha.php)
23:29 rangi             not that ive seen
23:28 librarygeekadam   I was wondering if anyone knew of a good site that walks you through linking VuFind with Koha?
23:28 librarygeekadam   good day
22:59 Judit             check out the whole website
22:58 Space_Librarian   Judit: I <3 it! That's just awesome
22:58 Judit             so kintta! for you: http://www.obeycrochet.com/wp-content/gallery/obey-drawings/crochet-hey-hey-hey_page_1.jpg
22:56 Space_Librarian   lovely to 'see' you too. :)
22:55 BobB              Hi Space_Librarian nice to 'see' you!
22:53 Space_Librarian   hey BobB!
22:53 BobB              hi mason
22:53 mtj               heya BobB
22:50 BobB              hi team koha
22:50 Space_Librarian   makes for one helluva caffeine low though...
22:50 Space_Librarian   quad shot ristretto. seriously good stuff
22:49 mtj               Space_Librarian: woah, thats seriously impressive :)
22:48 * Space_Librarian is now quad-shot caffeinated.
22:48 Judit             i have something for you
22:48 mtj               yo Judit !
22:48 Judit             give me a sec
22:48 Judit             u
22:48 Space_Librarian   hey Judit
22:36 eythian           hello Judit
22:34 rangi             hi Judit
22:34 Judit             hi
22:23 mtj               ha, no thank *you* liw :p
22:22 mtj               (will have to be later tonight tho... i need to check my visa card details)
22:22 liw               mjt, ooh, thank you very much
22:21 mtj               i'll chip in $25 bux for soile and liw
22:20 mtj               rangi: ooh, very interesting indeed
22:20 * liw             blushes
21:57 rangi             (liw's fiance for those that don't know)
21:55 rangi             and kick soile a few bucks if you can spare some
21:55 rangi             check it out
21:55 rangi             http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/docstory/mix-1-2-albanian
21:55 rangi             oh
21:55 eythian           they wouldn't lie!
21:54 eythian           http://networkstatus.telstraclear.co.nz/ <-- mtj, can't be the case, their status is saying clearnet is all good!
21:54 rangi             cya jcamins_away
21:54 jcamins           Good night, #koha.
21:54 jcamins           Okay, time to call it a day.
21:53 mtj               meh, dns1.clear.net.nz is up, yet dns2.clear.net.nz is down
21:52 Space_Librarian   hmmm... I'm going to have a tinker. Thanks guys!
21:52 jcamins           patch_for_bug_7284++
21:48 mtj               but thanks guys.... the new dns ip works fine for me :)
21:48 mtj               hmm, looks like tcl powered off their old dns box '203.96.154.4'
21:47 eythian           and I've seen that particular one somewhat regularly
21:47 eythian           mtj: tcl often has dumb dns issues.
21:45 rangi             gets me back an answer
21:45 rangi             (thats one of tcl's dns servers)
21:44 rangi             dig security.debian.org @203.97.33.14
21:44 rangi             works for me
21:44 jcamins           mtj: time for OpenDNS?
21:43 mtj               'dig  security.debian.org' doesnt seem to work for me :/
21:41 mtj               ... anyone else in nz using telstra-nz now-ish?
21:41 mtj               hmmm, i have a stupid dns problem, specific to telstra-nz
21:39 magnuse           g'night #koha
21:35 rangi             *nod*
21:35 jcamins           rangi: unless you had matching pairs of itemtypes.
21:35 jcamins           rangi: right.
21:34 rangi             so you could put them back
21:34 * eythian         doesn't use irrsi, he uses xchat.
21:34 rangi             you'd have to remember what they came from for one
21:34 jcamins           Oh.
21:34 rangi             no the cron job would
21:34 jcamins           It's just the same query.
21:34 jcamins           rangi: I don't see why.
21:30 rangi             switching htem back, when the fall back under the threshold .. would need dev work tho
21:29 rangi             its possible that could even be cronned, so run automagically each night
21:29 rangi             as a workaround
21:29 rangi             and use batch item modification to switch them all to an itemtype that only allows 10 day issues
21:28 rangi             you could get a list of all those with a high ratio of holds
21:28 rangi             with the holds ratio report
21:28 rangi             but
21:28 rangi             Space_Librarian: not that im aware of you cant
21:27 cjh               heh
21:27 * Space_Librarian is completely changing library processes for the good of all in her library
21:27 Space_Librarian   Dear Koha peeps - I love you to bits and pieces. Riddle me this: Can I set a holds rule to default to a 10 day lending period when more than 5 holds are placed on a record? (Current rule is 21 days, regardless for number of holds))
21:24 * oleonard        will return to the [tag] cloud tomorrow...
21:23 oleonard          Quittin' time.
21:20 rangi             coffee time
21:18 * wizzyrea        would put it as fail qa for that
21:17 wizzyrea          and I think it should
21:17 huginn`           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7544 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Signed Off , Add ability search borrowers only on email / phone
21:17 wizzyrea          nengard: re bug 7544 - it doesn't search the mobile phone number
21:03 cait              good night #koha
20:55 talljoy           thanks cait!
20:55 talljoy           nom nom nom
20:55 * cait            hands talljoy some of her chocolate mints
20:55 cait              :)
20:53 talljoy           that's my second food after data.
20:53 talljoy           i smelled chocolate....
20:34 rangi             hehe
20:34 cait              that's vocabulary I could never forget
20:34 cait              :)
20:34 cait              mmh chocolate
20:34 * chris_n         hands cait some chocolate mints
20:32 cait              I remember it now, thank you
20:32 cait              aah
20:32 chris_n           third entry down
20:32 chris_n           cait: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/colloquialism
20:32 Space_Librarian   :)
20:31 Space_Librarian   np
20:31 cait              I had a long day :P
20:31 chris_n           :)
20:31 cait              thx Space_Librarian
20:31 chris_n           oops
20:31 chris_n           ^^
20:31 cait              collo...?
20:31 Space_Librarian   (politely)
20:31 Space_Librarian   means idiots
20:31 chris_n           cait: sorry, its a colloquialism
20:31 cait              but I don't know what turkeys have to do with it?
20:30 Space_Librarian   *headdesk*
20:30 cait              I read it
20:30 wizzyrea          on to the courts then eh
20:30 chris_n           see oleonard's link
20:29 cait              ?
20:29 chris_n           turkeys
20:28 oleonard          http://koha-community.org/update-3-nz-koha-trademark/
20:28 janPasi           fair enough ;)
20:28 rangi             like airports
20:28 rangi             i have to sometimes
20:28 janPasi           well i don't use any machines that block ssh
20:27 janPasi           oh, ok
20:27 rangi             so you dont have to use a diff one for every machine, but it means you can
20:27 rangi             nope i still run it in screen, but means i can connect to bip from machines that block ssh access, or my phone etc
20:26 janPasi           can't be bothered ;)
20:26 janPasi           and then i'd need a separate client for all my devices and computers
20:25 janPasi           screen+irssi is much more simple
20:25 janPasi           too much trouble
20:25 janPasi           somekind of proxy
20:25 janPasi           oh, yeah
20:25 chris_n           bip++
20:25 janPasi           nope?
20:25 rangi             janPasi: you've seen bip eh?
20:24 jcamins           janPasi: lol.
20:24 janPasi           pidgin doesn't run very well in screen
20:24 janPasi           irssi is fine ;)
20:22 wizzyrea          gotcha
20:22 cait              that answers my question :)
20:22 cait              ah
20:21 rangi             use C4::Search qw/the string/; # this is needed for blah
20:21 cait              rangi: do we want to use qw/... / after the uses?
20:21 rangi             you might want to do a
20:21 wizzyrea          or is there a better way
20:21 wizzyrea          rangi - is that the best way to go about fixing those? add them to the files where they are needed/
20:20 Space_Librarian   lol
20:20 rangi             eythian uses it too and cjh
20:20 wizzyrea          common between the 2 :P
20:19 jcamins           rangi: oh, I guess it wasn't you who made fun of me for using irssi.
20:19 rangi             wizzyrea: hmm yeah you are probably right
20:19 wizzyrea          jcamins
20:19 * Space_Librarian misses her linuxbox
20:19 wizzyrea          i think it's auth that did it
20:18 rangi             with bip
20:18 * rangi           uses irssi
20:18 cait              I like pidgin
20:18 rangi             i will?
20:18 Space_Librarian   :p
20:18 Space_Librarian   hey, I'm on a mibbit web platform. I'm sure last century is an upgrade.
20:17 jcamins           I tested creating, editing, and receiving serials with the C4::Serials patch.
20:17 jcamins           Hmmm... I think two of the de-cycling patches must have an interaction.
20:17 jcamins           Space_Librarian: rangi will laugh at you if you use irssi. He says that irssi is last century.
20:16 Space_Librarian   rangi you're still awesome. jcamins, I need to find this platform. Sounds interesting.
20:15 jcamins           Space_Librarian: for irssi. It gives each nick a different color.
20:15 Space_Librarian   hi rangi :)
20:15 rangi             hi Space_Librarian
20:15 Space_Librarian   nickcolor?
20:15 rangi             ahh wizzyrea found another
20:15 jcamins           And, hi.
20:15 Space_Librarian   hey :)
20:15 jcamins           Kind of psychadelic.
20:15 * jcamins         just turned on nickcolor.
20:15 jcamins           Wow.
20:14 wizzyrea          heya
20:13 Space_Librarian   o/
20:00 huginn`           wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.
20:00 wizzyrea          @later tell paul_p bug 7545 is a big deal, fixes a problem caused by the de-nesting effort
19:57 wizzyrea          with all of those sentiments. Mace is awesome and also that is a funny photo.
19:57 magnuse           one of the organizers of "cycling for libraries"
19:57 wizzyrea          agree
19:57 wizzyrea          ^^ i agre
19:57 magnuse           thats mace - he's the coolest librarian in all of the nordic countries
19:56 rangi             yup :)
19:56 magnuse           hehe, crazy finns ;-)
19:55 rangi             http://www.flickr.com/photos/xmacex/6874767325/
19:53 oleonard          Thanks! Laziness is the mother of invention.
19:53 wizzyrea          that is so awesome.
19:53 wizzyrea          oleonard did I ever tell you how much appreciate the place hold, edit items links from the staff client results page.
19:51 wizzyrea          k sec
19:51 huginn`           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7545 blocker, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Needs Signoff , can't edit items
19:51 nengard           bug 7545 submitted and ready for sign off wizzyrea
19:49 oleonard          Not a very accessible solution, though, so I'm thinking about other ways to show the difference
19:49 cait              happy I could help!
19:49 wizzyrea          noice!
19:49 rangi             cool
19:49 oleonard          That shows a different color for my tags versus other people's tags
19:48 cait              woohoo :)
19:48 oleonard          Thanks to cait's SQL help I've made progress on the tag cloud: http://www.screencast.com/t/FFeX2A5A8
19:47 rangi             and may have broken other things also
19:47 rangi             because changes on there broke it
19:47 huginn`           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6875 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, paul.poulain, Needs Signoff , de-nesting C4 packages
19:47 rangi             do a bug, link it to bug 6875
19:47 nengard           do we have a bug report? if not i'll do a bug, a patch and let wizzyrea sign off :)
19:46 nengard           so you want me to submit a patch?
19:46 nengard           rangi that fixed it
19:46 wizzyrea          better hurry nengard or I'll beat you to it ;)
19:45 wizzyrea          also I just confirmed that bug
19:44 rangi             :)
19:44 rangi             take a look, you'll figure it out
19:44 nengard           getting sorted
19:44 nengard           just got my computer back today
19:44 nengard           got to find the file
19:44 nengard           rangi, where in additem.pl do i put that?
19:44 wizzyrea          http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commit;h=8165aeef777863d03f096f5547032d47d79cfa0f this one maybe
19:44 magnuse           hmm, this is master, not 3.6.x though?
19:43 cait              what rangi said - upload the file with the correction?
19:43 rangi             then test that, and if it works send a patch
19:43 rangi             to additem.pl
19:43 rangi             nengard: add a use C4::Search;
19:43 rangi             magnuse: fix it on pootle
19:43 wizzyrea          nengard that's going to be the one that de-nests C4
19:42 magnuse           hm, what's the correct procedure for fixing a syntax error in a .po file in master? bug & patch?
19:41 nengard           did anyone else fine the patch that did it? so I can reverse it? or should i try git blame?
19:41 magnuse           it's too simple to be true ;-)
19:41 nengard           guess i should look there :) hehe
19:41 nengard           well silly me
19:41 magnuse           cait: true
19:40 magnuse           nengard: it's in the error message! ;-)
19:40 cait              start line,end line
19:40 cait              I think you can give a few lines too
19:40 nengard           but how do i know the line number and path to file?
19:40 wizzyrea          paying homage to owen with complimentary appropriation of his features
19:40 magnuse           nengard: it's fun: "git blame -L <linenumber> <path to file>" ;-)
19:40 cait              wizzyrea: stealing... tss... borrowing ;)
19:39 * wizzyrea        steals that for nexpress
19:39 wizzyrea          ohhhh
19:39 rangi             yep
19:37 rangi             so someone has changed it so that value is no longer passed in
19:37 nengard           rangi - I've never done git blame at all :)
19:37 rangi             oleonard: that was pushed ages ago
19:37 * oleonard        hides
19:37 nengard           k - well i should add a note that it breaks things :) do you know a bug number
19:37 oleonard          Oh no, line 485 git-blames me!
19:36 rangi             nengard: it will be one of hte de-nesting patches
19:33 cait              thx :)
19:33 cait              oh
19:33 jcamins           cait++
19:33 oleonard          jcamins: border-radius
19:33 huginn`           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6901 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, katrin.fischer, RESOLVED FIXED, Add CSS classes/ids to OPAC and staff XSLT views
19:33 oleonard          cait++ # For Bug 6901 which made that customization possible
19:33 jcamins           oleonard: did you use a border image or just border-radius?
19:32 rangi             done a git blame to find the commit that introduced those lines?
19:32 pastebot          "nengard" at 98.114.30.184 pasted "I get this error if I try to edit items on master (I just did a pull today) - ideas??" (3 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/259
19:31 magnuse           yay, those links sure are prominent :-)
19:31 jcamins           You should put it on the wiki.
19:31 jcamins           I like that.
19:30 jcamins           Ah.
19:30 oleonard          sorry, "you can't because you're /not/ on real Koha"
19:30 jcamins           oleonard: you're not on real Koha?
19:30 oleonard          I had to tell them sorry, you can't because you're on on real Koha :(
19:29 oleonard          I just had a library call to ask me how I did my OPAC's ebook links (http://search.myacpl.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?idx=kw&do=Search&limit=mc-ccode%3ADNLD&sort_by=relevance)
19:27 magnuse           back to normal... ;-)
19:26 magnuse           hehe
19:26 huginn`           cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 1.3°C (8:24 PM CET on February 15, 2012). Conditions: Light Drizzle. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018.2 hPa (Rising).
19:26 cait              @wunder Konstanz
19:26 cait              finally
19:26 cait              hah
19:26 huginn`           magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -4.0°C (7:50 PM CET on February 15, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: -9.0°C. Windchill: -11.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Steady).
19:26 magnuse           @wunder boo
19:25 wahanui           hi, hdl
19:25 hdl               hi
19:25 magnuse           kia ora rangi cait hdl
19:25 cait              hi hdl
19:25 cait              heya magnuse
19:25 rangi             hi magnuse
19:25 * magnuse         waves
19:12 rangi             back
19:02 rangi             My stop bbiab
19:02 rangi             No clouds
19:01 rangi             It's more like 17
19:01 cait              14 is a bit disappointing
19:01 huginn`           cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 1.3°C (7:59 PM CET on February 15, 2012). Conditions: Light Drizzle. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1017.8 hPa (Steady).
19:01 cait              @wunder Konstanz
19:00 huginn`           rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 14.0°C (7:00 AM NZDT on February 16, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady).
19:00 rangi             @wunder nzwn
18:47 cait              morning rangi
18:45 jcamins           Morning.
18:42 rangi             Morning
18:40 jcamins           It's a good theory, though.
18:38 jcamins           oleonard: hm. I don't buy it.
18:38 jcamins           There's still just as much dust in this room as there was before I dusted the shelf, but now it's on my head instead of the shelf.
18:38 oleonard          Theoretically a significant percentage of the dust falls to the floor where it can be properly picked up.
18:37 jcamins           All they do is distribute dust over a wider area.
18:37 * jcamins         wonders if anyone on #koha can explain the use of feather dusters.
18:15 jcamins           Lunch time!
18:07 mveron            Have to leave now, going to the theatre. By everybody
18:06 mveron            jcamins / wizzyrea: Thanks a lot. I had to set the PERL5LIB and KOHA_CONF manually, now update runs through with 'perl translate update de-DE'.
18:05 cait              oleonard++ :)
17:58 jcamins           lol
17:58 oleonard          Your death would be nothing if no poetic jcamins
17:46 jcamins           Making me feel more like I'm standing on the floor and less like I'm standing on a ladder built before my great-great grandparents were born? :P
17:44 oleonard          Then you're shelving in style. What do you need a chair for?
17:43 jcamins           Well, one of the 19th century folding ones.
17:43 jcamins           oleonard: I have one of those.
17:43 oleonard          You need one of these jcamins http://nibsblog.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/opt-library-ladder-1.jpg
17:42 cait              maybe
17:42 cait              mayve
17:41 jcamins           Maybe standing on a chair would be less unnerving.
17:39 prometheus-rising Yep, all the other data looks good.  No patrons to import on this project.
17:38 jcamins           Shelving books on very high shelves would be much easier if I were not terribly afraid of heights.
17:38 cait              I think if the callnumber is the only problem - you are very close!
17:38 prometheus-rising Cheers, I'm so close.
17:38 prometheus-rising Gotcha
17:37 cait              $p is barcode, $o is callnumber
17:37 cait              I am sorry
17:37 cait              $o
17:37 cait              prometheus-rising: I was wrong
17:37 prometheus-rising cait: cheers
17:37 wahanui           it has been said that 952 is the field used for items in Koha. See http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Holdings_data_fields_%289xx%29
17:37 jcamins           952?
17:37 cait              uhoh
17:37 jcamins           952 is the field used for items in Koha. See http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Holdings_data_fields_%289xx%29
17:37 cait              http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Holdings_data_fields_%289xx%29
17:37 wahanui           jcamins: I forgot items
17:37 jcamins           wahanui: forget items
17:37 wahanui           items are attached to biblios, yes
17:37 cait              items?
17:36 cait              952?
17:36 cait              prometheus-rising: wahanui is our bot... trying to get him to give me the link I am looking for
17:36 wahanui           cait: huh?
17:36 cait              wahanui be more helpful!
17:36 wahanui           hmmm... item information is interesting
17:36 cait              item information?
17:36 prometheus-rising That should be easy enough using MarcEdit
17:36 cait              there was good documentation somewhere about tiems
17:36 cait              yes
17:36 prometheus-rising Ah, $p is a subfield of 952?
17:36 cait              you can have callnumbers at bilbiographic level, but koha will only show them in cataloging
17:35 cait              if you want them ot show on the items, you should copy them to $p I think
17:35 prometheus-rising cait, correct
17:35 cait              ah, you don#t have callnumbers in your items?
17:35 prometheus-rising Looks like Follett keeps them in =082
17:34 prometheus-rising Looking . . .
17:34 cait              where did you store the callnumbers?
17:34 cait              $p with callnumber?
17:34 prometheus-rising But the call numbers aren't coming in
17:34 cait              and $y with your barcodes
17:34 cait              you will need at least: $a $b with your branchcode
17:33 cait              ah ok
17:33 prometheus-rising I moved it to 952
17:33 wahanui           items are attached to biblios, yes
17:33 cait              items?
17:33 cait              ?
17:33 cait              you have the item information in 852 currently? instead of 952=
17:33 paul_p            jcamins agreed with that.
17:33 prometheus-rising I'm not a LS major, just a sysadmin trying to understand MARC.
17:33 jcamins           My personal feeling is that it should be obsoleted, as it is applicable only to his test database.
17:32 jcamins           paul_p: I don't think it should be pushed, I just think it needs sign off or to be failed.
17:32 prometheus-rising Hi all. I have bibliographies and items coming from Follett to Koha. Using MarcEdit, I now have a mrk file.  I know I must get data from 852 to 952. When I import none of the call numbers are imported. I get bibs and items just fine.
17:30 paul_p            I don't think i'll push more patches today.
17:30 cait              have a nice evening paul_p
17:30 paul_p            guys, it's 6:30 here, time for me to go back home !
17:29 paul_p            jcamins about the patch still applying, I don't see why I should push it. What does it add ? I think this small 5 lines script should not be included into Koha (or in a specific misc/devel/ directory)
17:13 gaetan_B          bye !
17:12 jcamins           The branch on git does not.
17:09 jcamins           paul_p: there's a patch attached to 7177 that still applies.
17:08 cait              time to cook some dinner
17:08 cait              and testing koha is more fun :)
17:08 cait              because it's a long time to march but perhaps not enough time to finish the accounting thing
17:07 jcamins           The script that automatically marks patches "Does not apply" will be very helpful, I think.
17:07 jcamins           paul_p: if I'm able, I hope to continue being more active with bugzilla. I'd like to cut down a bit on our backlog.
17:07 paul_p            cait why :( :) would be better !
17:06 jcamins           paul_p: Signed off.
17:03 cait              my deadline is march 7th to finish the distance study courses... hopefully getting more testing done then :(
17:03 * cait            sends jcamins chocolate
17:03 cait              paul_p: that's not nice... but I can understand it :)
17:03 jcamins           lol
17:03 paul_p            inbox downed to 49 !
17:02 paul_p            really. /me will pray for more snow, wind & cold where you leave then :D
17:02 jcamins           paul_p: cait's correct, I fear.
17:02 jcamins           lol
17:01 * cait            hides
17:00 cait              paul_p: he had a cold, he will be back to normal soon ;)
17:00 paul_p            jcamins you're doing a *lot* of work on bugzilla those days. Can we hope it will last for a long time ?
17:00 cait              not the one that requires me to test agian, but 5875 :)
17:00 paul_p            cait which one ? all, in general or a specific one ?
17:00 jcamins           Will do.
17:00 paul_p            jcamins you add that to the bug & i'll push it ?
16:59 cait              paul_p: I like your comments :)
16:59 cait              lol
16:59 jcamins           If confirming that it doesn't break anything is what we're looking for now, you have my sign off. :)
16:59 jcamins           I tested that patch quite thoroughly on a half dozen browsers.
16:58 jcamins           paul_p: I was going to suggest we push 3264 anyway, but I forgot to say that on the bug report.
16:58 paul_p            s/aquare/asquare/
16:58 jcamins           :)
16:58 paul_p            around. Or aquare, not sure :D
16:57 jcamins           paul_p: around?
16:55 cait              hi #koha
16:55 cait              hi jcamins :)
16:54 jcamins           Hi cait.
16:53 * jcamins         adds a filter to his mail so that all the bug messages don't end up in his Inbox.
16:52 jcamins           I think I made a mistake leaving the "Add me to CC list" box checked.
16:41 jcamins           You're welcome.
16:41 wizzyrea          < has the dumb
16:41 jcamins           superlibrarians aren't affected by indybranches.
16:41 wizzyrea          ty
16:40 wizzyrea          yes
16:40 wizzyrea          ohh derp
16:40 jcamins           wizzyrea: I had not, but are you logged in as superlibrarian?
16:40 wizzyrea          seems it shouldnt be possible
16:39 wizzyrea          had anyone noticed that editing other libraries patrons is possible w indybranches?
16:20 mveron            jcamins: Thanks, will try to find out.
16:18 wizzyrea          ^^
16:17 jcamins           If I had to guess, I'd say you don't have PERL5LIB and KOHA_CONF set properly.
16:17 jcamins           mveron: I have no idea what to make of that. I don't generally use translations.
16:17 mveron            jcamins: translate aborts on line 23 (says Compilation failed in require at line 25). Line 25 is: use LangInstaller;
16:14 wizzyrea          ^^ should suffice
16:07 jcamins           mveron: I think you just do `translate update de-DE` but I'm not sure.
16:06 mveron            kf / wizzyrea: Do I have to run a script in share/misc/translator? update.pl?
16:05 reiveune          bye
16:02 kf                bye all
15:53 kf                I was not sure
15:53 kf                wizzyrea: ok
15:53 wizzyrea          kf tanslations w packages are the same as normal
15:51 jcamins           I'm going to have to rebase 7284 now that the C4-decycling has been pushed.
15:39 mveron            kf: Just to be sure, was apt-get update and apt-get-upgrade the righ thing to do? Should that handle languages automatically?
15:39 huginn`           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Authority matching algorithm improvements
15:39 jcamins           schuster: yes indeed, bug 7284 is worth a look.
15:38 wahanui           jcamins: what?
15:38 jcamins           wahanui: that's a lie.
15:38 jcamins           Excellent!
15:38 wahanui           Authorities are working fine.
15:38 jcamins           Authorities?
15:38 * jcamins_away    does indeed! What area?
15:35 jenkins_koha      * paul.poulain: Bug 6875 de-nesting Auth.pm
15:35 jenkins_koha      * paul.poulain: Bug 6875 de-nesting C4::VirtualShelves
15:35 jenkins_koha      * paul.poulain: Bug 6875 de-nesting C4::Heading
15:35 huginn`           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6875 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, paul.poulain, Needs Signoff , de-nesting C4 packages
15:35 jenkins_koha      * paul.poulain: Bug 6875 de-nesting C4/Serials
15:35 jenkins_koha      * paul.poulain: Bug 6875 cleaning opac-main.pl
15:35 jenkins_koha      * paul.poulain: Bug 6875 cleaning mainpage.pl
15:35 jenkins_koha      * paul.poulain: Bug 6875 de-nesting C4::Koha.pm
15:35 jenkins_koha      Project Koha_master build #628: SUCCESS in 47 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/628/
15:33 kf                me neither
15:33 * oleonard        doesn't remember that
15:33 oleonard          Was there really a message on the Koha list saying no KUDOS 2012?
15:31 kf                to understand how things owrk using them
15:31 kf                I should really spend some time on the packages :(
15:31 kf                perhaps there is no package for 3.6.3 yet
15:30 kf                hm
15:30 mveron            kf: Checked the .po file, the strings seem to be translated.
15:29 mveron            No, I just did apt-get update and the apt-get upgrade (as root) and then got version 3.06.02.003 (Oh, I mistaked with the number, not ...02)
15:27 kf                and I think there might be another command to do the update, did you get through the webinstaller?
15:26 kf                who did install the language in the first place?
15:26 kf                mveron: I am not sure about languages with the packages :(
15:25 wahanui           koha-common is the one you want, the main koha one needs a bit more work (its for setting up a single instance)
15:25 mveron            kf: Yes, koha-common
15:22 kf                with one dot less...
15:22 kf                3.06.02 is not the current version - current is 3.0.6.03
15:22 kf                mveron: did you installl koha using the koha-common pacakges?
14:50 schuster          wizzyrea - I'm working to get there!
14:49 mveron            http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Installation_of_additional_languages_for_OPAC_and_INTRANET_staff_client
14:49 mveron            I think I need an additonal step to update the languages (German, French). I found following link, but nothing about upgrade there:
14:49 mveron            I need advice regarding upgrade and language handling on debian squeeze, apt-get update, then apt-get upgrade, koha-version is now 3.06.02.003
14:47 jenkins_koha      Starting build #628 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED)
14:45 wizzyrea          i'm sure jcamins has some patches you could help test to improve that area
14:43 schuster          Ah thanks for the clarifications.  It's always interesting to look at the list and go hmmm I wonder how Koha does that...  I was looking at the Authority Control items...
14:41 huginn`           New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6875 de-nesting Auth.pm <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e780e0669c8b2d2a50a7996ab76e584c4cd4c59d> / Bug 6875 de-nesting C4::VirtualShelves <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4d2cfa610e0adf22a2bd1dce2647aad15683a2b9> / Bug 6875 de-nesting C4::Heading <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=58c46b27af601a893e1eabdfb5bd7d4d0d887f24> /
14:41 nengard           it does seem that way
14:41 wizzyrea          it's based on the evergreen feature list and thus highly biased towards things evergreen has. Or at least it was the last time I looked at it.
14:41 nengard           i think it's being used to choose between the two systems, i don't think it's the right way to go personally, I'm more a try it and see kind of person
14:40 wizzyrea          lori ayre.
14:39 schuster          nengard - that is quite a list of comparisons...  wonder who "owns" the list...
14:38 schuster          OK thanks not a lot there, just curious what they are going to do with the info...
14:38 wizzyrea          zowie!
14:29 paul_p            10.4 days with more than 56km/h of wind
14:28 paul_p            an avg of 5 days with more than 1mm of rain
14:27 paul_p            avg see temp = 15°C
14:27 paul_p            avg min = 7°C, avg max = 15.9°C, avg avg = 11.5°C
14:26 paul_p            oleonard about the weather in march in Marseille : http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marseille#Climat
14:26 paul_p            ;-)
14:25 * oleonard        would wake up to IRC if his kids didn't demand all kinds of crazy things like food and clothing
14:24 paul_p            oleonard wake up on IRC ;-)
14:24 * oleonard        woke up 4 1/2 hours ago :P
14:24 paul_p            a sunny day in Marseille, but highly windy. as often in winter...
14:24 paul_p            hi wizzyrea & all other ppl from US that wake up !
14:23 wizzyrea          thanks?
14:23 paul_p            (not a lot of details about the use case on bugzilla...)
14:22 huginn`           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6751 enhancement, P2, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Link in readingrec.pl to export a barcode file
14:22 oleonard          schuster: Bug 6751
14:22 paul_p            schuster what's the question ?
14:22 schuster          schuster is curious about the "new feature" mentioned by paul_p and the export of barcodes checked in...
14:21 nengard           there is a spreadsheet floating around comparing Koha to EG if people want to add in Koha stuff: The spreadsheet currently lives here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ak7HAdCKcNqtdFRjSnlKTEZRbXpDUmtQbmFScE5xM3c
14:12 * oleonard        whacks wizzyrea heartily on the back
14:11 * wizzyrea        waves
14:06 mveron            hi again to everybody :-)
13:58 magnuse           \o/
13:56 huginn`           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5327 major, P3, ---, sam-sanders, ASSIGNED , Unit tests required for all C4 modules
13:56 jenkins_koha      * paul.poulain: Revert "Added coverage to unit test for TTParser"
13:56 jenkins_koha      * paul.poulain: Revert "Bug 5327: Patch removes unneeded self=shift from TTParser::unshift_token"
13:56 jenkins_koha      Project Koha_master build #627: FIXED in 54 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/627/
13:56 jenkins_koha      Yippie, build fixed!
13:56 hdl               oleonard: in fact, it is for special libraries, a kind of ILL between ILSes but before ILL was written and designed.
13:55 alex_a            hello
13:55 paul_p            (100 départements in France)
13:55 oleonard          Hm.... Okay. Sounds like a very obscure feature, but it seems to work well :)
13:55 paul_p            in France, each "département" has a library dedicated to issuing books to small libaries. The small libraries don't own any book, they just get them from the "BDP", and renew their collections every 6 months
13:54 paul_p            ...but I'm still not sure what the feature is for => sometimes libraries (using Koha) issue books to other libraries (not -yet- using Koha). Once "issued" has checked-in the books to "issuing", they provide a list of barcode, that is used to compare which has been checked-in in Koha and checked-out/removed from the other ILS.
13:52 oleonard          paul_p: FWIW my vote is "Export barcodes of today's checkins"
13:35 magnuse           [off] nice little graphic showing the response times of two koha installations - green = 3.6.3, blue = current master with TT caching (the caching was turned on where the blue line takes a big dip) http://div.libriotech.no/kohamisc/httpresponsetime.png
13:32 oleonard          ...but I'm still not sure what the feature is for
13:31 oleonard          paul_p, I liked your idea to put it in the menu
13:26 paul_p            thx nengard, taht's for a new feature i'll push soon. yes, it's to get a file of the  barcodes of items that were checked in today.
13:22 * kf              kf_mtg
13:17 nengard           or if we don't need to mention barcodes  "Export today's checkins"
13:17 nengard           "Export barcodes for today's checkins"
13:16 nengard           So we're trying to get a file of the barcodes of items that were checked in today?
13:16 * magnuse         too
13:16 kf                I have heard that rumour too
13:15 paul_p            and a persistent rumor is that nengard is english-native, so has a valid opinion ;-)
13:15 paul_p            )
13:15 paul_p            (or even Export today's checked in barcodes
13:15 wahanui           i already had it that way, paul_p.
13:15 paul_p            a question for english natives : is "Export today checkin barcodes" ? Shouldn't it be "Export today checked in barcodes" ?
13:15 nengard           hiya
13:15 paul_p            'morning nengard
13:15 nengard           know what?
13:13 Suzzane           ok tcohen
13:12 magnuse           nengard will know!
13:12 magnuse           paul_p: "Export barcodes of today's check-ins" gets my vote, but not a native speaker, of course
13:09 tcohen            at gmail
13:08 tcohen            tomascohen
13:08 Suzzane           pls
13:08 Suzzane           tcohen give me your email
13:05 Suzzane           so not the earphones, the problem is the MP3 or the player
13:05 Suzzane           ohhh,
13:04 tcohen            i just got these MP3 *somewhere*
13:04 kf                paul_p++ for fixing jenkins
13:04 tcohen            i'm happy with these earphones, its just that i cannot buy a David Gray CD here in Argentina
13:03 Suzzane           will pay for shipping...
13:03 Suzzane           tcohen you can souve me with them :-)
13:02 jenkins_koha      Starting build #627 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #625 15 h ago)
13:01 tcohen            oh, with these senheizer earphones I realize my super-high-quality MP3 are crap
13:00 paul_p            (for QAing the "de nesting C4/Packages" patches)
13:00 paul_p            marcelr++
13:00 kf                good plan :)
13:00 paul_p            that's my feeling too. Will wait for some US guy to jump in...
13:00 kf                Export barcodes of today's check-ins?
12:59 huginn`           New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_5327' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1ffbd262b3479d46cb9afc91b26fdb4ff9c04a42> / Revert "Added coverage to unit test for TTParser" <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4fa0e4c88ca40cceeb072bc55f3194a09295e185> / Revert "Bug 5327: Patch removes unneeded self=shift from TTParser::unshift_token" <http://git.koha-communit
12:59 kf                but second looks better
12:59 kf                paul_p: not a native speaker
12:59 tcohen            as spanish native, the second one looks better
12:59 Suzzane           :-)
12:59 tcohen            i hope so
12:59 Suzzane           you will soon
12:58 paul_p            (tcohen) a question for english natives : is "Export today checkin barcodes" ? Shouldn't it be "Export today checked in barcodes" ?
12:58 tcohen            i haven't managed to make my bosses send me to kohacon
12:58 paul_p            jenkins should be back to stable in next build...
12:58 tcohen            there oleonard usually tries to dig into the details of changing OPAC arrangement and such
12:57 tcohen            http://www.myacpl.org/koha/
12:56 Suzzane           btw, were you are the kohacon 2011?
12:56 Suzzane           i will get back to you
12:56 Suzzane           you have been helpful
12:56 Suzzane           thanks so much tcohen
12:56 Suzzane           ok
12:55 tcohen            as detailed as posible
12:55 tcohen            usually you come here or the koha list and let us know exactly what did you do prior to getting the error
12:54 tcohen            http://www.w3schools.com/css/
12:54 Suzzane           so while at the OPAC, what happens when you try to such and an error appears?
12:54 tcohen            but the main look and feel / arrangement should be changed using CSS, puting CSS in other preferences
12:54 Suzzane           i will try it out
12:54 Suzzane           ok
12:53 tcohen            using HTML inside some preferences
12:53 tcohen            in koha you have a simple way of adding things to the OPAC
12:52 Suzzane           Ohhh
12:52 Suzzane           please elaborate on the meaning of CSS
12:52 tcohen            which is a language for arranging and changing things aspect
12:52 tcohen            the OPAC should be customized using CSS
12:52 Suzzane           if you can
12:51 Suzzane           pls help
12:50 Suzzane           then we hit the road
12:50 Suzzane           the only part remaining is the appearance part of the OPAC
12:50 Suzzane           we have done the configurations
12:49 Suzzane           we have already installed 3.6.2
12:49 tcohen            you have a stock koha installed, what would you like to 'customize'?
12:49 paul_p            a question for english natives : is "Export today checkin barcodes" ? Shouldn't it be "Export today checked in barcodes" ?
12:49 tcohen            mmm, I'm not sure which is the best place to get info on that
12:49 Suzzane           sorry i lost you but am back
12:47 Suzzane           how do i get to learn that?
12:47 Suzzane           HTML....ok
12:47 Suzzane           really...... with all those commands
12:47 tcohen            just need to learn some bits of HTML
12:46 tcohen            librarians can do it
12:46 Suzzane           should the costomizing be done by the programmers or librarians can also do it?
12:46 tcohen            oops!
12:46 Suzzane           i am a librarian
12:46 Suzzane           ops! is this language for programmers or?
12:45 Suzzane           make is have the new arrivals with the book/periodical top page
12:45 tcohen            r u touching the templates? or just CSS + JS?
12:45 Suzzane           and when we try to search, its giving some error
12:45 tcohen            what r u trying to do?
12:44 Suzzane           am not being able to customize the opac
12:44 tcohen            lets see then
12:44 Suzzane           you might be of helpp....
12:44 Suzzane           am good tcohen
12:44 Suzzane           hahaha
12:42 tcohen            good eeeeeevening Suzzane
12:42 tcohen            ooops
12:42 Suzzane           you should be telling me good evening coz its heading 4pm here
12:42 Suzzane           good mooorning tcohen
12:37 tcohen            good moooorning #koha
12:34 Suzzane           you have afew?
12:34 Suzzane           am in a fix
12:33 Suzzane           finally you are here
12:33 Suzzane           phewx
12:33 Suzzane           hi paul-p
12:32 paul_p            hi Suzzane
12:09 Suzzane           kf...Hi :-
12:06 Suzzane           i need some assistance
12:03 Suzzane           hope most of us are now awake
12:03 Suzzane           Hi people
11:34 * magnuse         needs a reboot
11:32 kf_lunch          bbiab
11:07 magnuse           ah
11:07 kf                jenkins unstable
11:07 magnuse           ?
11:06 kf                hm seems we got a translation problem
10:56 huginn`           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5327 major, P3, ---, sam-sanders, ASSIGNED , Unit tests required for all C4 modules
10:56 jenkins_koha      * duncan: Added coverage to unit test for TTParser
10:56 huginn`           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7432 critical, P1 - high, ---, paul.poulain, Pushed to Master , Changing frameworks should refresh cache
10:56 jenkins_koha      * chrish: Bug 5327: Patch removes unneeded self=shift from TTParser::unshift_token
10:56 jenkins_koha      * Chris Cormack: Bug 7432 : Fixing caching for C4::Languages
10:56 jenkins_koha      * Chris Cormack: Bug 7432 : Fixing caching for SQLHelper
10:56 jenkins_koha      * Chris Cormack: Bug 7432 : Fix how we are setting expiry time when caching
10:56 jenkins_koha      Project Koha_master build #626: UNSTABLE in 53 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/626/
10:02 jenkins_koha      Starting build #626 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
09:59 huginn`           New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_5327' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6f6bfb8aff59ae10b4bf7e8d4bdcb31c5b269458> / Added coverage to unit test for TTParser <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=77c430717681ad299917db85c878db8f21f2e4dc> / Bug 5327: Patch removes unneeded self=shift from TTParser::unshift_token <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=ko
09:53 rangi             hi gaetan_B
09:52 gaetan_B          :)
09:52 wahanui           bonjour, gaetan_B
09:52 gaetan_B          hello
09:51 rangi             the trick is need to make a different memcached object, for each time .. but thats not so bad means could even do some trickier with namespaces
09:46 magnuse           yay!
09:46 rangi             but now it does timeout ... we can actually use it in more places :)
09:46 rangi             and even trickier to spot why the timeout was never being set
09:46 rangi             no worries, it was tricky to spot
09:45 paul_p            sorry, will push it now !
09:45 rangi             to match what the comment said
09:45 paul_p            rangi++
09:45 paul_p            pfeww...
09:45 rangi             http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=7586  changing from 600000 (which is hours and hours) to 600
09:44 paul_p            hi rangi.
09:43 rangi             cept 7432 doesnt actually fail
09:41 * magnuse         wishes normarc would wither and die
09:39 magnuse           nah, if they fail they fail
09:39 paul_p            only failed QA for this morning :\ should I do something else ?
09:17 magnuse           kf, paul_p: yup