Time  Nick              Message
22:47 wahanui           thanks drojf :)
22:47 drojf             wahanui: botsnack beer
22:36 drojf             *clink*
22:35 * druthb          raises her glass.
22:34 drojf             cheers
22:33 * druthb          says "no thanks" to the beer, and pours herself a double shot of something stronger.
22:32 drojf             hi druthb take a beer before it gets warm. or the tumbleweed takes it all ;)
22:31 druthb            o/
22:22 * drojf           puts some cold beers in #koha. weekend :)
21:27 maximep           but it was a very old patch
21:27 maximep           oh, it's from someone at libeo haha
21:26 maximep           http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5b945d8c415aa610e4ded830825f43bd8592d109
21:26 maximep           aaaah
21:24 maximep           will post in bugs
21:24 maximep           it broke again :/
21:23 huginn`           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6718 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , No manager_id saved for writeoff of fines
21:23 maximep           writeoff is in bug 6718
21:23 maximep           writeoff is in 6718
21:22 cait              I remember testing it, or perhaps it broke again
21:22 cait              or the other way round
21:22 cait              maximep: I think it was used when paying, but not when writing off
21:20 maximep           maybe it was reverted... hmmmm
21:19 maximep           :S
21:19 maximep           $manager_id is created.... but never used
21:19 maximep           the patch seems to have been pushed in 3.6... in part
21:19 huginn`           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6634 critical, P1 - high, ---, koha.sekjal, ASSIGNED , manager_id not populated when paying fines
21:19 maximep           having a weird problem bug 6634
21:00 rangi             the tests for biblio create a biblio, then remove it again at the end
21:00 rangi             but it has itemtypes and all the things needed to create one
21:00 rangi             not sure it has any slef
20:57 jcamins           Good night, #koha.
20:50 nengard           looking for my report gurus to provide a bit of help here ? "I need a report that lists titles that have ONLY 1 item and the status of that item is Withdrawn."
20:49 jcamins           Bye.
20:49 slef              Oh and if anyone can tell me where the db_dependent sample item data is, that would be cool.
20:49 oleonard          Bye #koha
20:49 slef              attach it to a new edition of the right book manually
20:49 * oleonard        is open to suggestions, but is leaving now too
20:48 oleonard          What can you do with a review of a book which doesn't exist anymore?
20:48 slef              Your problem ;) I'm off to dinner. Happy hacking.
20:48 slef              I think so. Do you want to junk reviews though?
20:48 oleonard          So any database update to add the constraint will have to look for that conflict as well
20:47 oleonard          I must have tested it at the prompt when my database was in a different state
20:47 slef              that's why I was confused by it working at the prompt
20:47 slef              ah cool
20:46 oleonard          Ah, that could be, since that's the bug I'm working on
20:46 slef              select reviewid from reviews where biblionumber not in (select biblionumber from biblio); but that is an ugly query
20:45 slef              my thought was that you have a review of something no longer in biblio
20:43 oleonard          Oh never mind, now it fails on the command line too :P
20:41 * oleonard        will try again to make sure
20:41 oleonard          Yes
20:41 slef              same database for both prompt and updatedatabase?
20:41 slef              "Cannot add or update a child row: a foreign key constraint fails" is a strange one
20:38 slef              ta
20:38 pastebot          "oleonard" at 66.213.78.34 pasted "updatedatabase error" (1 line) at http://paste.koha-community.org/243
20:38 slef              what error?
20:36 oleonard          If I run each at the mysql prompt I get no error. I get an error when running updatedatabase
20:35 slef              what error do you get running it from the mysql> prompt?
20:35 slef              the mysqldumps have ON DELETE CASCADE ON UPDATE CASCADE but I doubt ordering matters
20:34 oleonard          The link to borrowers works, the one to biblio doesn't.
20:33 oleonard          Trying, but not succeeding.
20:33 pastebot          "oleonard" at 66.213.78.34 pasted "Setting up foreign key constraints for reviews table" (7 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/242
20:32 slef              I'm not seeing anything that looks like sample items there
20:31 slef              I think I'm still wrong
20:31 rangi             ta slef
20:30 slef              the description of the db_dependent test data is in installer/data/mysql/en/
20:30 rangi             plus all the mandatory ones
20:30 wahanui           slef: I forgot description of the db_dependent test data
20:30 slef              wahanui: forget the description of the db_dependent test data
20:30 rangi             all the optional files
20:30 slef              ?
20:30 slef              installer/data/mysql/en/optional/sample_*
20:30 * oleonard        loves taking calls from libraries interested in Koha
20:29 rangi             in installer/data/
20:29 rangi             in the .sql and corresponding .txt files
20:29 slef              so where is the sample db documented?
20:29 rangi             that KohaTest.pm is something someone started, and never finished, so yeah nicest thing would be to remove it
20:28 slef              bah cruft
20:28 rangi             the tests rely on the data that is installed when you choose yes to everything in the sample db
20:28 rangi             i dont think that data is used anymore by the tests
20:27 slef              am I reading it right?
20:27 slef              so the test data has no known barcode?
20:26 wahanui           The 952 field is used by Koha to store item data in MARC21 and is described at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Holdings_data_fields_%289xx%29
20:26 huginn`           slef: unknown tag 952
20:26 slef              @marc 952
20:26 slef              952?
20:23 slef              the description of the db_dependent test data is in t/db_dependent/lib/KohaTest.pm
20:23 Brooke            I can bust up your searches. >:)
20:23 Brooke            sure about that, stud?
20:20 * chris_n         notes that there are a couple of dud records, but they were duds from the start
20:19 chris_n           searches work fine
20:19 chris_n           upgrade went very smoothly, items removed, and zebra reindexed nicely
20:19 wahanui           slef: i'm not following you...
20:19 slef              wahanui: you suck.
20:19 slef              description of the db_dependent test data?
20:19 slef              db_dependent?
20:18 chris_n           cool
20:18 slef              test data?
20:05 jcamins           Good luck!
20:05 fredpierre        Thanks jcamins - my thought is that this will only eliminate lines that were in balance. it's going to be harder to clear all lines prior to the account being in balance...I will work on it and report back!
20:02 fredpierre        !!!
20:02 slef              I wanted to leave 111 minutes ago :-/
19:57 huginn`           cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -10.9�C (8:55 PM CET on February 03, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: -16.0�C. Windchill: -15.0�C. Pressure: 30.55 in 1034.4 hPa (Steady).
19:57 cait              @wunder Konstanz
19:49 fredpierre        Thanks
19:49 jcamins           Then, yes, that will select all the fines that have been paid.
19:49 fredpierre        The problem is that the manual credits aren't applied to the items in the past.
19:49 jcamins           Ah.
19:49 fredpierre        If a patron's balance is zero, I want to clear all the old items from the fines report, so they don't clutter up the billing.
19:46 jcamins           fredpierre: what's the problem you're trying to solve?
19:45 fredpierre        I think I might have found the answer: SELECT * FROM accountlines WHERE amount > 0 AND amountoutstanding = 0;
19:45 fredpierre        In the past we accepted payments, but didn't match them to the items, so those items still show up on the fines report, even though they are paid.
19:44 Brooke            o/
19:44 fredpierre        I've got a bunch of old fines to get rid of.
19:32 rangi             heh
19:31 * chris_n         looks around for memcached
19:31 chris_n           9200 records and counting
19:30 slef              rugby sevens
19:30 jcamins           [off] Aaand, I was just thinking that we needed another demand that we do someone's work for them.
19:29 cait              sevens weekend?
19:28 rangi             yes, it all goes a bit mad for sevens weekend
19:27 jcamins           Those costumes are quite something.
19:27 rangi             http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/photos/6360370
19:27 rangi             speaking of madness
19:25 jcamins           slef: no, not with bot in it.
19:25 cait              slef: hm not sure
19:25 slef              jcamins: with bot in it?
19:25 jcamins           slef: thanks a lot. Now I have that song stuck in my head.
19:23 slef              cait: is that the coldest it gets there?
19:22 slef              life is a bot cabaret, my friend...
19:21 rangi             heh
19:21 wahanui           somebody said the first sign of madness was looking for hairs on the palms of my hands
19:21 cait              the first sign of madness?
19:20 wahanui           it has been said that second sign of madness is hairs on the palms of my hands
19:20 jcamins           second sign of madness?
19:20 wahanui           somebody said madness was manyfold - ask me for the second sign of madness.
19:20 slef              madness?
19:20 cait              lol
19:20 slef              madness
19:19 wahanui           ...but they are non-xslt, but I will check that....
19:19 wahanui           ...but they is non-xslt, but I will check that....
19:19 slef              wahanui: they are wrong
19:19 wahanui           somebody said today was Black Friday.
19:19 slef              is where I am today
19:19 rangi             day 2 of the sevens today
19:19 huginn`           slef: The current temperature in Weston-Super-Mare, United Kingdom is -3.2�C (7:15 PM GMT on February 03, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: -10.0�C. Windchill: -3.0�C. Pressure: 30.69 in 1039.2 hPa (Rising).
19:19 slef              @wunder Weston-super-Mare SOMERSET
19:19 huginn`           rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 15.0�C (8:00 AM NZDT on February 04, 2012). Conditions: Drizzle. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
19:19 rangi             @wunder nzwn
19:19 slef              cait: well, freezing
19:18 cait              slef: you call that racing? ;)
19:18 rangi             comment it out for now then with a fixme would be my inclination
19:18 slef              cait: racing towards you!
19:18 huginn`           slef: The current temperature in APRSWXNET Dersingham UK, Sculthorpe, United Kingdom is -2.2�C (6:48 PM GMT on February 03, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: -4.0�C. Windchill: -2.0�C. Pressure: 30.68 in 1038.8 hPa.
19:18 slef              @wunder Dersingham
19:18 slef              rangi: I don't know the syntax of that function and it appears to be undocumented
19:18 huginn`           cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -11.0�C (8:14 PM CET on February 03, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: -16.0�C. Windchill: -11.0�C. Pressure: 30.54 in 1034.1 hPa (Steady).
19:18 cait              @wunder Konstanz
19:08 * jcamins         wasn't sure what the remove_items script was.
19:08 rangi             thats it :)
19:08 jcamins           Oh, remove_items_from_biblioitems?
19:08 rangi             jcamins: anything that has to do repetitive look ups
19:07 cait              :)
19:07 rangi             free_software++
19:07 jcamins           remove_items?
19:07 rangi             but hey I *could*
19:07 rangi             i had to read the source code of the module to figure out what were doing wrong which kinda sucked
19:07 rangi             cait++ # for reporting the bug which made me find the issue
19:06 rangi             (assuming ppl are running memcached)
19:06 cait              rangi++
19:06 rangi             we can use it more, and it will speed up a lot of things like that remove_items  script
19:05 chris_n           doing_it_right++
19:05 rangi             but now we know how to do it right
19:05 rangi             turns out we were using memoize_memcached all wrong
19:05 huginn`           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7432 critical, P1 - high, ---, paul.poulain, Needs Signoff , Changing frameworks should refresh cache
19:05 rangi             bug 7432
19:05 rangi             so
19:04 chris_n           you are gracious ;-)
19:04 rangi             im assuming the test was at least run once :)
19:04 chris_n           this is sooo slooow
19:03 chris_n           5200 records and counting
19:03 rangi             or perhaps one filled with only sample data?
19:03 rangi             well, sign off too, i can only assume it works on perhaps an empty db?
19:03 chris_n           more QA issues?
19:03 * chris_n         boggles....
19:01 rangi             a patch fixing that would be awesome, or even just commenting out that test until its fixed
19:01 rangi             im not sure how that ever passed
19:00 rangi             you can't renew without a patron
19:00 rangi             and yes that is the cause of the problem
19:00 rangi             slef: the 3 left attached are the failed ones i think
18:59 slef              door
18:59 slef              ok but it's commit 597fabf4f474c52d0c9fc3f9fa9ce0267f6e04e2 which I think has done this
18:58 slef              yeah I see that now
18:58 cait              more than one patch
18:58 slef              didn't spot that before
18:57 slef              err, failed QA, so why's it in master?
18:57 huginn`           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5327 enhancement, P3, ---, sam-sanders, Failed QA , Unit tests required for all C4 modules
18:57 slef              http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/614/console looks to be caused by bug 5327
18:56 rangi             yup, figured that :)
18:56 slef              rangi: yeah but many like the term as little as I do ;)
18:55 rangi             are welsh technically british?
18:52 rangi             slef: you about?
18:43 chris_n           and you know the rest of the story :-)
18:43 chris_n           but....
18:43 chris_n           initially I was very diligent to keep it merged with master
18:43 chris_n           I cringe at the prospect of bringing it up-to-date
18:42 jcamins           That's not going to be fun.
18:41 chris_n           lots of css, etc changes to the old templating system
18:41 jcamins           Yikes.
18:41 chris_n           yes; heavily localized
18:40 jcamins           chris_n: your production system is running 3.03.000.002?
18:35 chris_n           don't know though
18:34 chris_n           yeah, I think the issue was fixed somewhere along the upgrade path
18:33 * jcamins         tries not to think about it.
18:33 jcamins           That's...
18:33 jcamins           Comma-delimited.
18:33 chris_n           s/filed/field/
18:33 chris_n           seems I recall that the isbn filed is comma delimited or some such and grows too long for some buggy reason
18:32 chris_n           DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Data too long for column 'isbn'
18:32 chris_n           hmm... an old error returns
18:31 chris_n           running remove_items_from_biblioitems.pl
18:28 cait              :)
18:15 wizzyrea          :)
18:14 chris_n           this also gives me good practice for my planned summer upgrade of the production system
18:14 wizzyrea          I did an update from 3.0 to 3.4 not too long ago (before 3.6 was out)
18:14 chris_n           but the db upgrade looks smooth at first glance
18:13 chris_n           wizzyrea: well, I need to run the script
18:13 chris_n           using master
18:13 chris_n           but I'm preparing to develop over a copy of my production db
18:13 wizzyrea          remove items from biblioitems too?nice!
18:13 chris_n           jcamins: no
18:13 chris_n           it went beautifully
18:13 chris_n           for all you curious folks
18:12 pastebot          "chris_n" at 63.162.197.228 pasted "upgrading from Koha 3.03.00.002 to 3.07.00.011" (87 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/241
18:12 jcamins           Your dev sandbox is on 3.03.00.002?
18:12 chris_n           ok, done...
18:11 chris_n           actually, this is my dev sandbox
18:11 cait              is there a reason you need 3.7?
18:11 * chris_n         watches the patrons and librarians run for cover :-)
18:11 chris_n           muahahaha
18:11 * chris_n         hides under his desk
18:11 jcamins           chris_n: I hope you're not doing that on production first?
18:10 jcamins           chris_n: yikes!
18:10 chris_n           let's see how this goes: upgrading from Koha 3.03.00.002 to 3.07.00.011
18:10 huginn`           slef: The current temperature in APRSWXNET Dersingham UK, Sculthorpe, United Kingdom is -0.6�C (5:33 PM GMT on February 03, 2012). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: -3.0�C. Windchill: -1.0�C. Pressure: 30.68 in 1038.8 hPa.
18:10 slef              @wunder dersingham
18:09 wizzyrea          heya
18:08 cait              hi #koha
17:45 oleonard          so if I want the constraint the set reviews.borrowernumber null on patron delete, I add the constraint to borrowers?
17:39 kf                bye all :)
17:37 huginn`           slef: downloading the Perl source
17:37 slef              huginn`: you suck!
17:36 huginn`           slef: Error: No such location could be found.
17:36 kf                meh.
17:36 slef              @wunder EGFC
17:36 kf                and I have to walk home
17:36 huginn`           slef: Error: No such location could be found.
17:36 slef              @wunder EGYH
17:36 kf                it's cold
17:36 slef              I'm not going to Germany soon but I know someone who is.
17:36 kf                lol
17:36 libsysguy         TO THE LINKER!!
17:36 slef              mmmm nice
17:36 libsysguy         all authorities imported
17:36 huginn`           wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 7.6�C (11:35 AM CST on February 03, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Windchill: 6.0�C. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018.2 hPa (Steady).
17:36 wizzyrea          @wunder lawrence ks
17:36 wizzyrea          brr
17:36 kf                eew
17:36 huginn`           kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -10.4�C (6:34 PM CET on February 03, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: -17.0�C. Windchill: -14.0�C. Pressure: 30.53 in 1033.7 hPa (Steady).
17:36 kf                @wunder Konstanz
17:25 wizzyrea          finally an achievement system that I don't have to work too hard to get all of them.
17:25 jcamins           Lunch time.
17:25 jcamins           lol
17:23 wizzyrea          lol: http://evilrouters.net/achievement-unlocked/
17:21 oleonard          Someone somewhere...
17:21 wizzyrea          I approve of the fact that we actually have to solve this problem - means people are using comments!
17:21 oleonard          "A dearly departed library patron"
17:20 wizzyrea          s/says/said/
17:20 wizzyrea          "library patron says blah blah blah"
17:20 wizzyrea          or just "library patron"
17:20 * jcamins         thinks his prices might be prohibitive for that task.
17:20 wizzyrea          depends on if you want to preserve the comment or not
17:20 wizzyrea          and have the display be "Unknown commenter" or "anonymous commenter"
17:19 wizzyrea          ^^ this is what I was thinking
17:19 hdl               See ya
17:19 hdl               one could also NULLIFY the borrowernumber
17:18 kf                I was thinking about that today
17:18 kf                so you will delete the comments with the borrower?
17:17 huginn`           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7493 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Deleting a record with comments breaks "Recent Comments"
17:17 oleonard          I'm thinking the solution to Bug 7493 is a foreign key constraint on biblionumber and borrowernumber?
17:17 rangi             why you not make me one
17:17 wizzyrea          sudo make me a video
17:16 rangi             make me a video
17:13 wizzyrea          there's a lot of wow in the list today.
17:13 kf                wow ?
17:13 jcamins           Is it not worthy of a "wow"?
17:13 wizzyrea          ah
17:13 jcamins           Yup.
17:13 wizzyrea          the video one?
17:13 wahanui           druthb was last seen on #koha 15 hours, 26 seconds ago, saying: does a happy dance, too! [Fri Feb  3 02:11:43 2012]
17:13 libsysguy         seen druthb
17:12 jcamins           wizzyrea: the message that just came through the list.
17:12 wizzyrea          ?
17:12 jcamins           Wow.
17:10 jcamins           oleonard: I forgot about that.
17:10 oleonard          Cheater.
17:10 jcamins           Well, I turned my computer on briefly last night. I sent a bunch of invoices, then turned it off.
17:09 jcamins           libsysguy: it's glorious.
17:09 libsysguy         0_0 how do you live man
17:09 jcamins           Morning.
17:09 jcamins           Sunday.
17:09 jcamins           Sorry, I haven't actually turned my computer on at home since...
17:09 wizzyrea          for us dummies who don't do authorities every day. ;)
17:09 libsysguy         hehe
17:09 jcamins           wizzyrea: oh, yes!
17:08 * wizzyrea        whispers teeesssssttttt plaaaaaaan
17:08 kf                :)
17:08 jcamins           This reminds me. I need to add an authority import interface to my list of proposed enhancements.
17:07 libsysguy         ahh
17:07 jcamins           libsysguy: use bulkmarcimport.pl -a
17:07 libsysguy         this may be a dumb question but do you import authorities just like a regular import?
17:04 gaetan_B          bye everyone, have a nice week end!
17:03 wizzyrea          cool, thanks :)
17:03 gaetan_B          wizzyrea: just catching up with your answer! I didn't find anything about this and went ahead and created the bug. It's linked to the search reasults one.
17:01 jcamins           slef: nothing, I'm pretty sure.
17:01 slef              ask them what they're doing to celebrate 2012.coop? ;-)
16:59 jcamins           Agreed.
16:59 jcamins           slef: yeah, we were approved a while ago, actually.
16:59 slef              jcamins: still seems like the whole NY co-op housing needs some questions asked about its values and principles though ;)
16:59 slef              jcamins: nope, that's news to me.
16:58 jcamins           Running it on an average (large) public library's database produces a 10MB report.
16:58 jcamins           Oh, be sure to pipe the output into a file.
16:58 jcamins           link_bibs_to_authorities.pl will take a while to run.
16:56 libsysguy         i think it is anyway
16:56 libsysguy         sysprefs.sql is new for me lol
16:56 libsysguy         understood
16:55 jcamins           You don't need to do anything other than fix the conflict in sysprefs.sql.
16:55 jcamins           You need to run the atomicupdate because you applied the patch by hand, not as part of a regular update.
16:55 libsysguy         do I need to run that as well?
16:55 libsysguy         in sysprefs.sql
16:55 libsysguy         gracias sir
16:54 jcamins           libsysguy: since you applied that by hand, you'll probably need to run: perl installer/data/mysql/atomicupdate/bug_7284_authority_linking_pt1
16:53 melia             good morning
16:53 wizzyrea          hi melia
16:53 libsysguy         exactly
16:53 wizzyrea          ez to fix :)
16:53 wahanui           a syspref file is only one that ever changes
16:53 libsysguy         and a syspref file
16:53 libsysguy         whitespace
16:53 libsysguy         yeah thats what it was
16:52 wizzyrea          most likely
16:52 * jcamins         uses atomicupdate because updatedatabase conflicts irritate him.
16:52 jcamins           Probably sysprefs.
16:52 wizzyrea          (updatedatabase, sysprefs, silly lil stuff)
16:51 wizzyrea          I have had to do several lately where some minor merge things needed to be done before I could test
16:51 wizzyrea          *nod*
16:51 jcamins           Sure doesn't take long for the code to not apply to master.
16:50 francharb_lunch   see ya
16:50 libsysguy         cpoy pasta from a rangi recommendation
16:50 wizzyrea          hm
16:50 * jcamins         always uses it.
16:50 jcamins           unified.
16:49 wizzyrea          what's the u again?
16:49 wizzyrea          well I don't use the u
16:49 wizzyrea          yeap
16:49 huginn`           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6314 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , UNIMARC OPAC XSL improvements
16:49 huginn`           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5674 minor, P5 - low, ---, gcollum, Pushed to Master , Staff client - placing holds - patron name sort not ignoring letter case
16:49 jenkins_koha      * f.demians: Bug 6314 XSL UNIMARC Improvments
16:49 libsysguy         ok so the patch failed...is it git am -iu3 <patch_location> to try and fix
16:49 jenkins_koha      * gcollum: Bug 5674: patron name sort ignoring case when placing holds.
16:49 jenkins_koha      Project Koha_master build #615: STILL UNSTABLE in 54 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/615/
16:49 wizzyrea          ;)
16:49 wizzyrea          is not the same as a "good record"
16:48 wizzyrea          where good = an appropriate challenge for the script
16:48 jcamins           I recommend using link_bibs_to_authorities.pl --link-report --commit=1000
16:48 libsysguy         wizzyrea has apparently never seen our records
16:48 libsysguy         ^^ BAHAHAHA
16:48 wizzyrea          dev server, good authorities, good records
16:47 wizzyrea          and that's the PERFECT opportunity to test
16:47 jcamins           libsysguy: chances are you want the LastMatch module.
16:47 wizzyrea          really, he's not lying
16:47 jcamins           libsysguy: in all seriousness, though, bug 7284 should do exactly what you need.
16:47 kf                I heard a lot of people talking about the fudge tho
16:46 kf                ;)
16:46 jcamins           kf: sorry! :(
16:46 kf                *sniffs*
16:46 kf                only me... I never got any fudge
16:46 wizzyrea          toot toot!
16:46 libsysguy         guess I just have to get on the jcamins train
16:46 * wizzyrea        too
16:46 * oleonard        can vouch for that
16:46 * jcamins         is not above bribes.
16:45 libsysguy         signoffs for favors ;)
16:45 * wizzyrea        waits for the shooting to begin re: 7001
16:45 jcamins           wizzyrea: guess I'd best figure out the stove, then, so I can bake fudge.
16:45 wizzyrea          one
16:45 wizzyrea          that's a ginormous on
16:45 wizzyrea          psh
16:45 libsysguy         poor hourly
16:45 libsysguy         oh boy...last time i signed off on something it got shot full of holes
16:45 wizzyrea          lol
16:45 wizzyrea          I hear a sign off on that comes with "favors"
16:44 libsysguy         haha jcamins
16:44 jcamins           Can't you hear it? "Sign off on me! Sign off on me!"
16:44 jcamins           And, look! There it is- bug 7284, just waiting for your sign-off.
16:44 oleonard          all for the price of a sign-off
16:44 jcamins           That's what you need.
16:44 huginn`           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Authority matching algorithm improvements
16:44 libsysguy         you single handly pushed hourly
16:44 wizzyrea          see?
16:44 wahanui           somebody said bug 7284 was the first step to making that happen.
16:44 jcamins           Bug 7284.
16:44 * jcamins         does a happy dance.
16:44 libsysguy         oh?
16:44 jcamins           I have good news!
16:44 wizzyrea          you will make jcamins cheer
16:44 jcamins           libsysguy: this is wonderful!
16:43 jcamins           libsysguy: yes!
16:43 wizzyrea          :D
16:43 jcamins           Bwahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!
16:43 wizzyrea          that won't make us cringe.
16:43 libsysguy         I want to try and import and link all authorities on a dev box
16:43 wizzyrea          "when will hourly be tested and ready?"
16:43 jcamins           libsysguy: oh no.
16:43 libsysguy         I have a question that will make all here cringe
16:43 wizzyrea          <3 wahanui
16:43 libsysguy         hehe
16:43 wahanui           I LIKE SCIENCE!
16:43 libsysguy         hey wizzyrea
16:43 wahanui           libsysguy is, like, Koha's hottest developer or partying with swedes on his deck
16:43 wizzyrea          hey libsysguy
16:42 jcamins           slef: BTW, did I tell you we were approved for the co-op? It was a while ago, but I feel like you might not have been around.
16:37 jcamins           slef: heh.
16:37 slef              jcamins: and it looks like it's just work not passion for some ;-)
16:31 jcamins           Looks like it's the end of the work day in France.
16:23 huginn`           kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is -9.0�C (5:00 PM CET on February 03, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 38%. Dew Point: -17.0�C. Pressure: 30.51 in 1033 hPa (Rising).
16:23 kf                @wunder Konstanz
16:22 reiveune          bye
16:21 kf                :)
16:19 drojf             still getting warmer. maybe i try shopping and some fresh air
16:18 huginn`           drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is -4.9�C (5:13 PM CET on February 03, 2012). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: -12.0�C. Windchill: -10.0�C. Pressure: 30.63 in 1037.1 hPa (Rising).
16:18 drojf             @wunder berlin, germany
16:17 drojf             but they will probably not help with our import
16:17 kf                I could find some more inspiring projects for you...
16:17 kf                ok
16:16 drojf             i play "find the patterns" to get languages of audio and subtitles out of our old db for the video entries. maybe some more inspiring work would make me less tired
16:14 drojf             lol
16:14 kf                ;)
16:13 kf                students...
16:13 drojf             i'm really tired, i could go to bed too. but its only 5pm so maybe not.
16:12 kf                paul_p: on the positive side... always someone awake too:)
16:12 drojf             :)
16:12 paul_p            the problem here is that there is always someone sleeping ;-)
16:12 paul_p            drojf kiwis are sleeping, be carefull, you're right
16:11 * drojf           tries to wake nobody
16:11 kf                it's friday :)
16:11 drojf             ok, thanks ;)
16:11 drojf             ooh
16:11 wizzyrea          :)
16:11 wizzyrea          it's that quiet.
16:11 drojf             is it really that quiet or am i just offline?
15:55 huginn`           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6323 enhancement, P3, ---, wizzyrea, Pushed to Master , Attach/move items - adding option "try again" after success or wrong barcode
15:55 huginn`           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7238 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, chris, Pushed to Master , move SIPconfig.xml, sip_run and sip_shutdown outside from C4 (NOT FOR 3.6)
15:55 huginn`           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7461 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , cart offering to remove items when closing
15:55 huginn`           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7472 normal, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , Edit button ineffective when paying borrower fee
15:55 jenkins_koha      Starting build #615 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #612 19 h ago)
15:55 huginn`           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7476 normal, P3, ---, aleksa, Pushed to Master , Files executable that probably should not be
15:55 jenkins_koha      * lrea: Bug 6323 -- Error handling cleanup for moveitem.tt
15:55 huginn`           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7459 major, P2, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Can only add to one public list in OPAC search results
15:55 jenkins_koha      * Chris Cormack: Bug 7238 : Shifting SIPconfig.xml to the etc dir and the scripts to misc/bin
15:55 jenkins_koha      * wizzyrea: Bug 7238 Followup - fix sip_run to require path to SIPconfig.xml
15:55 huginn`           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6984 critical, P5 - low, ---, gcollum, Pushed to Master , Holds Statistics Doesn't Work
15:55 jenkins_koha      * oleonard: Bug 7461 - Cart offering to remove items when closing
15:55 jenkins_koha      * f.demians: Bug 7472 Edit button ineffective when paying borrower fee
15:55 jenkins_koha      * mjr: Bug 7476 Remove executable bit from files that probably should not be executed
15:55 jenkins_koha      * m.de.rooy: Bug 7459 - Can only add to one public list in OPAC search results
15:55 jenkins_koha      * gcollum: Bug 6984 - Holds statistics doesn't work.
15:55 jenkins_koha      Project Koha_master build #614: STILL UNSTABLE in 53 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/614/
15:47 huginn`           New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6314 XSL UNIMARC Improvments <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fd84f8c2bcdc01fc753c6b281f13e387586199cc> / Bug 5674: patron name sort ignoring case when placing holds. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e1d948ecd69b802917272b2bc73e11fabc2a0e88>
15:40 wizzyrea          which I do like very much how it works
15:40 wizzyrea          but yes, i did create a test sandbox
15:39 wizzyrea          :)
15:39 wizzyrea          actually, for the patch I tested with it, it seemed to work ok
15:39 wizzyrea          ohh, wel
15:39 paul_p            wizzyrea + you tried to test a sandbox on test5 yesterday, right ? I made a small mistake, it should not have worked well. Not it does.
15:39 wizzyrea          one mo
15:38 wizzyrea          oki
15:38 paul_p            wizzyrea I got no email from koha-community.org
15:38 wizzyrea          hey
15:38 paul_p            hi wizzyrea
15:37 Guest1440         LIES
15:35 wizzyrea          I thought I filed a bug for that... but maybe I didn't maybe I just thought very hard about it
15:35 wizzyrea          I meant that the "no result" text should also eliminate kw, wrdl
15:34 wizzyrea          but a worthy goal
15:34 wizzyrea          changing the display of the search history is out of the scope of this I think
15:32 gaetan_B          do you mean chan ging the display of search history list is also a part of this or is out of the scope ? (i was in the process of creating another ticket for this purpose)
15:31 huginn`           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6985 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, wizzyrea, Failed QA , Hide "kw,wrdl:" from Search Results
15:31 gaetan_B          wizzyrea: about bug 6985
15:31 kf                ok, right or wrong: deleting entries from accountlines that are older than x days/months will throw off the calculated balance?
15:29 wizzyrea          ugh. yay for involved recreating what cannot be recreating. HEre I go down the rabbit hole.
15:28 wizzyrea          *people* transit things home.
15:28 wizzyrea          but marking things *lost* doesn't transit them home.
15:28 wizzyrea          yea
15:28 oleonard          Is "claims returned" a lost status you've set up?
15:27 wizzyrea          to which I say, bullsh*t!
15:27 wizzyrea          I have a library claiming that another library "put an item in transit by marking it claims returned"
15:27 wizzyrea          hee thanks
15:27 * kf              offers cookies
15:27 kf                it's friday
15:26 wizzyrea          :)
15:26 wizzyrea          sorry I misunderstood what you meant
15:26 kf                unrelated
15:26 wizzyrea          OH
15:26 kf                I meant being unrealted
15:26 kf                oh wrong answer?
15:25 wizzyrea          why?!
15:25 wizzyrea          !!
15:24 kf                hm Ithink they should be?
15:24 wizzyrea          my understanding was that these functions are utterly unrelated.
15:23 wizzyrea          oy, is there anytihng in "claims returned" that puts an item in transit home?
15:19 kf                lol
15:19 * oleonard        waves his hands in the air like he just doesn't care
15:19 * magnus_afk      waves too
15:18 * jcamins         waves back.
15:18 kf                hi wizzyrea :)
15:18 * wizzyrea        waves
15:18 kf                weird time
15:17 drojf             ah, forced disconnect. thanks, german isp
15:16 drojf             oops, i was gone?
15:16 kf                wb drojf
15:15 * jcamins         isn't at his computer anyway. ;)
15:15 * jcamins         can wait until you're home.
15:15 kf                only not finding the one I used
15:15 kf                really, google gives lots of different options
15:14 * oleonard        boggles at the number of alternate versions in the comments on that page
15:12 kf                http://asemanfar.com/Current-Git-Branch-in-Bash-Prompt
15:11 kf                using different colors... lots more complicated
15:11 kf                mine also shows with a symbol if there are uncommitted changes
15:11 kf                but that link is for another solution
15:10 kf                I have the link at home
15:10 kf                http://www.bramschoenmakers.nl/en/node/624
15:10 jcamins           kf: what do you use?
15:10 kf                looks like something is broken there
15:09 oleonard          "10:04 ~/kohaclone (master $% u-15)$" what is the "$% u-15" ?
15:09 kf                oleonard: there are lots of similar things on the web - I use something else that it much more code but haven't noticed slow downs. hm.
15:08 jcamins           Yeah, I'm not surprised that slows things down.
15:08 jcamins           Ah.
15:07 jcamins           Which page?
15:06 * oleonard        finds that the .bashrc change suggested in the wiki's tips and tricks slows down display of the prompt considerably
15:06 jcamins           You are correct, there is no way to specify optional or mandatory.
15:05 drojf1            yes i see now :)
15:05 jcamins           Very confusing. ;)
15:05 * jcamins         was thinking "This is a title : with a subtitle"
15:05 jcamins           Right.
15:05 drojf1            we have a lot of video
15:05 jcamins           Ohhhh.
15:05 drojf1            *on
15:05 drojf1            subtitles in a dvd
15:04 jcamins           Ah.
15:04 * jcamins         thinks this might be a language issue.
15:04 drojf1            $j - Language code of subtitles or captions (R)
15:04 jcamins           The subtitle goes in 245$b.
15:04 drojf1            subtiltes have languages :)
15:04 drojf1            yes
15:04 jcamins           The 041 is for languages.
15:04 jcamins           For subtitles?
15:04 drojf1            so either i am missing something, or the LOC does not differentiate betweent hardcoded and optional subtitles. i cant believe i found something that i cannot code in marc
15:03 kf                heh
15:03 drojf1            its for subtitles, probably huginn` is more into books ;)
15:02 drojf1            thanks kf :)
15:02 huginn`           kf: Language code of text/sound track or separate title The first language code in subfield $a is also contained in field 008/35-37 (Language), unless character positions 35-37 contain blanks (###) or the code "zxx." (Repeatable)
15:02 kf                @marc 041 a
15:02 kf                hm
15:02 huginn`           kf: unknown field/subfield combination (041/j)
15:02 kf                @marc 041 j
15:02 huginn`           drojf1: unknown tag 041j
15:02 drojf1            @marc 041j
15:02 kf                is there a script to delete entries from searchhistory?
15:02 huginn`           drojf1: Codes for languages associated with an item when the language code in field 008/35-37 of the record is insufficient to convey full information. This includes records for multilingual items, items that involve translation, and items where the medium of communication is a sign language. The sources of the codes are: MARC Code List for Languages or other code lists such as ISO 639-1 (Codes for the (1 more message)
15:02 drojf1            @marc 041
15:01 jenkins_koha      Starting build #614 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #612 18 h ago)
14:59 * kf              goes to hide behind her documents
14:59 kf                and I really am confusing things here
14:59 kf                Imeant that it was checking issues and old-issues
14:58 magnus_afk        yeah, those two ought to give the same result, unless i'm misunderstanding something
14:58 kf                but it's probably a bug
14:57 kf                ignore me
14:57 kf                no
14:57 kf                hm
14:57 huginn`           New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6323 -- Error handling cleanup for moveitem.tt <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5bba1353d0a910ee3337e99c0d67cc619608fcb6> / Bug 7238 : Shifting SIPconfig.xml to the etc dir and the scripts to misc/bin <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=43b3fb97015c16d159f67b758ff01483890b42d1> / Bug 7238 Followup - fix sip_run to require path to SIPconfig.xml <http://git.koh
14:57 kf                can be in borrowers and deletedborrowers
14:57 kf                no checkout patrons
14:57 magnus_afk        hm, when i use the reports "Patrons with no Checkouts" and set the date to 2000-01-01 i get ~400 results. when i give "Clean Patron Records" tool the same date i get "0 patrons will be deleted"?
14:52 kf                paul_p: that was my tactic too so far... but not getting away with it :)
14:52 kf                yeah me too
14:43 jcamins           I need to do a git hook.
14:43 paul_p            s/months/weeks/ maybe
14:42 paul_p            (and mine didn't worked for months, and I didn't spotted it !)
14:42 paul_p            ;-)
14:42 paul_p            oleonard I had the same problem
14:42 oleonard          paul_p: That was the problem. Not executable. Thanks!
14:41 paul_p            kf nope. Until now, we just made as if it was really deleted. head hidden in the sand (frenchism suspected)
14:40 kf                paul_p: we work on documents for data privacy... and I have to write a delete concept
14:40 kf                ... and there goes my hope you had some scripts and experience with it :)
14:40 paul_p            (the pre-commit one)
14:40 paul_p            oleonard is your file executable ?
14:40 paul_p            kf nope. And I think/feel it's bad and we should
14:38 * kf              gets into the question queue
14:38 oleonard          It doesn't seem to be working for me, and I notice that the 'git diff' commands used in pre-commit don't return any files
14:38 kf                paul_p: and I have a question about data privacy :) do you delete borrowres from deletedborrowers regularly for your libraries? or other regular scheduled deletes/anonymisations?
14:38 paul_p            oleonard yep ?
14:37 oleonard          paul_p: I have a question about your pre-commit hook (http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Tips_and_tricks)
14:37 jcamins           Good morning again, #koha.
14:30 kf                done
14:30 paul_p            (maybe set "in discussion" directly then !)
14:30 paul_p            no prob
14:29 kf                no time for testing now - so it will sit around abit longer I fear
14:29 paul_p            * you set to "in discussion"
14:29 paul_p            * you say "sign-offed" but set "in discussion" because of table name
14:29 paul_p            * you signoff the patch if its OK
14:28 paul_p            kf I propose:
14:28 kf                and removing from all will be a lot more work, thatn making a new table fit into an existing pattern :)
14:28 kf                and like oleonard said, we have some other similar things
14:28 kf                so the prefix makes a lot of sense to me
14:28 kf                hm I think I like that they are grouped together paul_p
14:27 oleonard          Other things have prefixes too kf: borrower, import, marc, language, tags
14:27 paul_p            kf My opinion is = let's remove those strange "aq" prefix, so don't introduce a new table starting with it !
14:26 huginn`           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5339 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , Parcel closing in acq
14:26 kf                bug 5339
14:26 paul_p            kf http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/DB_schema_bugs
14:26 kf                it's a new table
14:26 paul_p            kf that's a question we've asked with joubu on the wiki page "DB shema bugs".
14:25 kf                aq is the only module we have something like a prefix for most tables
14:25 kf                is it being to picky to think a table should have another name? aqinvoices instead of invoices?
14:25 kf                sanity check
14:25 kf                ok
14:25 kf                pretty busy day
14:25 kf                :)
14:24 paul_p            bug "signed-off" list down to 14 ! probably the lowest # since months !!!
14:15 * oleonard        finds that neither "git diff" commands in the pre-commit file return any changed files
14:12 * oleonard        wonders why...
14:12 * oleonard        's pre-commit hook doesn't seem to be working...
13:46 drojf1            depends on what that response is
13:46 oleonard          We'll see. Progress, at least, that they're not pretending no one has requested to talk to them.
13:44 chris_n           http://koha-community.org/update-2-nz-koha-trademark-situation/comment-page-1/#comment-4452
13:42 chris_n           looks like PTFS woke up
13:37 drojf1            takk magnus_afk
13:34 magnus_afk        drojf1: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Holdings_data_fields_%289xx%29#MARC21_Holding_field.2C_3.0.x.2C_3.2.x_and_3.4.x_default_-_field_952
13:29 drojf1            in 952y is koha expecting the media code or the media description? like, 'bk' or 'Book'?
13:29 drojf1            heh
13:29 huginn`           drojf1: unknown tag 952y
13:29 drojf1            @marc 952y
13:22 kf                aaw
13:22 drojf1            thanks. you are a good part of my brain :)
13:22 kf                formally 942 belongs to bvb and 952 to gbv... but I would just ignore that until you run into problems one day
13:21 kf                980-999
13:21 kf                http://www.d-nb.de/standardisierung/pdf/v_068b.pdf
13:20 drojf1            so i thought i would ignore that ;) unless you know where to find it
13:20 drojf1            kf i found that once. but then never again
13:20 kf                let me find the safe range for you
13:20 kf                drojf1: they divided the 9xx fields for use... between different institutions
13:20 huginn`           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7459 major, P2, ---, m.de.rooy, Passed QA , Can only add to one public list in OPAC search results
13:20 paul_p            bug 7459 pushed
13:20 kf                there is something
13:19 kf                drojf1: for Germany
13:19 drojf1            thanks paul_p and kf
13:19 drojf1            ok i will roll a dice then. a dice with like 97 numbers :D
13:19 kf                those 3
13:19 kf                yes
13:18 drojf1            i think 999 is also used somehow
13:18 paul_p            disclaimer: i'm not a MARC21 specialist
13:18 paul_p            drojf1 any field, except 952 and 942
13:18 huginn`           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6984 critical, P5 - low, ---, gcollum, Passed QA , Holds Statistics Doesn't Work
13:18 paul_p            bug 6984 pushed
13:18 drojf1            what is a safe place to store some extra information in marc21 9xx that does not interfere with koha?
13:06 * paul_p          heads to "passed QA" patches (by marcelr or sekjal)
13:05 huginn`           paul_p: The operation succeeded.
13:05 paul_p            @later tell rangi jenkins unstable again, seems it's something wrong with sample data
13:05 paul_p            OK, it's a SIP db_dependant test again. Probably something still wrong with datas in sample DB
13:04 * paul_p          investigates why jenkins became unstable...
13:04 paul_p            hello back
12:59 slef              transcription error by someone
12:57 slef              blah
12:57 huginn`           slef: Uniform Resource Identifier The URI, which provides standard syntax for locating an object using existing Internet protocols. Field 856 is structured to allow for the creation of a URL from the concatenation of other separate 856 subfields. Subfield $u may be used instead of those separate subfields or in addition to them.Subfield $u may be repeated only if both a URN or a URL or more than one URN are (1 more message)
12:57 slef              @marc 856 u
12:57 huginn`           slef: Host name The fully qualified domain (host name) of the electronic location. It contains a network address which is repeated if there is more than one address for the same host. (Repeatable)
12:57 slef              @marc 856 a
12:54 * slef            ponders that
12:53 huginn`           slef: Sixteen characters that indicate the date and time of the latest record transaction and serve as a version identifier for the record. They are recorded according to Representation of Dates and Times (ISO 8601). The date requires 8 numeric characters in the pattern yyyymmdd. The time requires 8 numeric characters in the pattern hhmmss.f, expressed in terms of the 24-hour (00-23) clock. []
12:53 slef              @marc 005
12:52 slef              marcelr++
12:51 kf                yep marcelr++
12:51 slef              bye and thanks marcelr
12:51 kf                bye marcelr
12:51 marcelr           bye koha
12:49 kf                so nothing new about me
12:49 drojf1            :)
12:49 kf                lol
12:48 slef              the first sign of madness is looking for hairs on the palms of your hands
12:48 slef              the second sign of madness is hairs on the palms of your hands
12:48 kf                is blue
12:48 kf                the cat of one of jared's clients
12:48 drojf1            meow
12:48 kf                hehe
12:48 slef              madness?
12:48 wahanui           i guess blue cat is Chester
12:48 kf                blue cat?
12:48 kf                blue cat is Chester
12:47 slef              blue cat?
12:47 kf                blue cat?
12:47 jcamins_away      I'll be back later.
12:47 jcamins_away      Okay, better get ready to go.
12:44 jcamins_away      520 should be Summary not Description.
12:44 jcamins_away      300$a, 300$b, and 300$c contain very different information.
12:43 slef              ok let me see if that passes the library
12:43 jcamins_away      Not really, no.
12:43 slef              it's better than "Description" but can we do better?
12:42 kf                he didn't like that suggestion ;)
12:42 jcamins_away      Physical description?
12:41 kf                slef was looking for a better label for 300
12:41 jcamins_away      What about me?
12:38 kf                I am out of ideas
12:36 slef              anyway, they've not noticed that, it's 300 attracting question ;)
12:35 slef              yay, internal consistency :-/
12:35 slef              kf: hrm, 520 is only labelled "Description" in the intranet, it's Summary and Title Notes in the OPAC I think.
12:33 slef              kf: yes
12:33 marcelr           ok do that
12:33 slef              marcelr: if you don't mind, yes, please. Is the Copyright line correct?
12:33 slef              marcelr: I cp'd another xt test to start off.
12:33 marcelr           shall i remove when signing off
12:33 slef              marcelr: ha you got me.
12:32 slef              kf: Physical description would be accurate but clunky.
12:32 kf                520 is more about the content?
12:32 marcelr           slef: in the comment of the bash file:  This script requires the isutf8 program from Joey Hess's moreutils package.  ??
12:32 * slef            goes looking around
12:32 kf                hm perhaps Physical description?
12:32 slef              mmmm
12:32 kf                or check the labels in other catalogs
12:32 kf                perhaps ask jcamins_away?
12:31 kf                but I guess you are opposed to that :)
12:31 slef              which is actually labelled on the tab as "Descripton", to be fair
12:31 kf                you could do an evil hack with jquery...
12:31 huginn`           slef: Unformatted information that describes the scope and general contents of the materials. This could be a summary, abstract, annotation, review, or only a phrase describing the material. (Repeatable) [a,b,u,3,6,8]
12:31 slef              @marc 520
12:31 slef              kf: Description makes some complain. They say that's more like
12:29 huginn`           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7476 normal, P3, ---, aleksa, Signed Off , Files executable that probably should not be
12:29 marcelr           paul_p: looking at bug 7476
12:26 kf                I think making it that would make others complain
12:26 slef              door
12:26 kf                yeah
12:26 slef              kf: yeah, we've been asked for "Pages" or "Extent". It's not necessarily pages though.
12:26 kf                perhaps size
12:26 kf                most of the time will be pages
12:26 kf                slef: seems not wrong to me
12:25 slef              kf: wondering if there's a better word for it.
12:25 huginn`           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7450 critical, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Pushed to Master , Missing placeholders in admin/authorised_values.pl
12:25 huginn`           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7431 major, P5 - low, ---, gcollum, Pushed to Master , OPAC item hold list doesn't show 'checked out'
12:25 huginn`           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7355 enhancement, P3, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , Note subfields are not displayed in TEXTAREA if hidden
12:25 jenkins_koha      * paul.poulain: bug 7450 small follow-up, removing warn
12:25 jenkins_koha      * adrien.saurat: Bug 7450: missing placeholders in authorised_values.pl
12:25 jenkins_koha      * gcollum: Bug 7431: Fixes the display of the due date in opac item specific holds.
12:25 jenkins_koha      * f.demians: Bug 7355 Note subfields are not displayed in TEXTAREA if hidden
12:25 jenkins_koha      * m.de.rooy: 6964 Follow-up typo borrowenumber
12:25 jenkins_koha      Project Koha_master build #613: UNSTABLE in 54 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/613/
12:25 huginn`           kf: Extent The number of pages, volumes, cassettes, total playing time, etc., of the described item. (Repeatable)
12:25 kf                @marc 300 a
12:25 huginn`           slef: Extent The number of pages, volumes, cassettes, total playing time, etc., of the described item. (Repeatable)
12:25 slef              @marc 300 a
12:25 kf                hmm
12:25 slef              kf: that gets labelled as Description by OPACxslt...
12:25 huginn`           kf: unknown tag 300a
12:25 kf                @marc 300a
12:25 drojf1            what did i do now?
12:25 huginn`           kf: unknown tag 200a
12:25 kf                @marc 200a
12:25 drojf1            huch
12:25 huginn`           drojf1: downloading the Perl source
12:25 drojf1            huginn` knows marc? that might be helpful for me too
12:25 kf                what are you looking for?
12:25 slef              hrrrm
12:24 huginn`           slef: A physical description of the described item, including its extent, dimensions, and such other physical details as a description of any accompanying materials and unit type and size. (Repeatable) [a,b,c,e,f,g,3,6,8]
12:24 slef              @marc 300
12:22 kf                better here too - we started with -13 this morning
12:22 drojf1            but new snow
12:22 drojf1            getting better here :)
12:21 huginn`           drojf1: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is -5.8�C (1:13 PM CET on February 03, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: -11.0�C. Windchill: -6.0�C. Pressure: 30.57 in 1035.1 hPa (Steady).
12:21 drojf1            @wunder berlin, germany
12:20 kf                gnadensee
12:20 drojf1            ok
12:20 kf                on part of it, not so deep
12:20 drojf1            kf: on bodensee? is that safe?
12:18 huginn`           kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is -9.0�C (1:00 PM CET on February 03, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: -18.0�C. Pressure: 30.46 in 1032 hPa (Rising).
12:18 kf                @wunder Konstanz
12:18 kf                brrr
12:18 kf                ok, now part of the lake is frozen... so people start talking about skating
12:15 marcelr           will have a look
12:15 huginn`           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7476 normal, P3, ---, aleksa, Signed Off , Files executable that probably should not be
12:15 slef              marcelr: could you try bug 7476 - should be a quick one I think?
12:14 kf                poor bot
12:14 kf                but people forget to feed him
12:14 slef              and huginn` is a search engine
12:14 wahanui           thanks kf :)
12:14 kf                wahanui botsnack cookies
12:14 slef              drojf1: yeah, I use wahanui instead of a search engine sometimes
12:14 drojf1            heh
12:13 kf                ok, I can support that last part :)
12:13 drojf1            #koha is part of my brain now ;)
12:13 kf                bet you are younger than me!
12:13 kf                hmpf
12:13 * drojf1          is too old to remember everything :)
12:13 huginn`           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7461 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , cart offering to remove items when closing
12:13 marcelr           paul_p: picking bug 7461 now..
12:12 kf                no worries :)
12:12 drojf1            thanks
12:12 drojf1            kf: yeah that sounds right. i thought i did it like that once. but i tried only {$var}s and that screws up a lot
12:10 kf                ${var}s
12:10 kf                drojf1: I think you can do something with {} too
11:31 jenkins_koha      Starting build #613 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED)
11:25 huginn`           New commit(s) kohagit: bug 7450 small follow-up, removing warn <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1034b21dea0460b58ef63550cf920b17d5e2662e> / Bug 7450: missing placeholders in authorised_values.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f0a660093442941ee11c0c2fe11402eebfa45a01> / Bug 7431: Fixes the display of the due date in opac item specific holds. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p
11:21 * marcelr         Only 19 in signed off state left..
11:19 francharb         lunch time
11:18 marcelr           bon appetit
11:18 paul_p            marcelr QAing ... my lunch. see you at 2PM
11:14 drojf1            thanks magnuse!
11:09 magnuse           or rather: print $var1, "s",  $var2
11:09 magnuse           i think?
11:09 magnuse           $var1, "s",  $var2
11:07 drojf1            i have a perl question. let's say i have '$var1="one"' and 'var2="two"'. i want to print '$var1', the letter "s" and then '$var2', without any space in between, like "onestwo". if i say 'print "$var1s$var2"' the first var name is interpreted as '$var1s', so i get an error. if i use 'print "$var1\s$var2"' it works, but i get "Unrecognized escape \s passed through" so i guess its not the right way to do it. i could put "s" in a var, but that seems like o
11:06 marcelr           paul_p: ok
11:05 huginn`           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7264 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, srdjan, Needs Signoff , Display information about library on OPAC detail
11:05 huginn`           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7422 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Signed Off , Prevent creation of vendors with the same name
11:05 * magnuse         looking at bug 7264
11:05 paul_p            marcelr if you say bug 7422 and not only 7422, everybody will see the bug description
11:05 huginn`           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7450 critical, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Passed QA , Missing placeholders in admin/authorised_values.pl
11:05 paul_p            QAing bug 7450
11:04 marcelr           looking at 7422
11:04 paul_p            hi marcelr, and thx
11:04 marcelr           hi paul_p
11:00 paul_p            tiny patch, passed QA
10:59 huginn`           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7431 major, P5 - low, ---, gcollum, Passed QA , OPAC item hold list doesn't show 'checked out'
10:59 paul_p            QAing bug 7431
10:54 magnuse           paul_p: then it's less yay - i had hoped it would pass qa, of course ;-)
10:53 huginn`           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7387 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, chris, In Discussion , Add Template::Toolkit plugin to allow caching of includes
10:53 paul_p            magnuse why yay ? (i've transfered bug 7387 to "in discussion")
10:48 slef              is rangi still around?
10:43 magnuse           yay!
10:43 huginn`           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7387 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, chris, Signed Off , Add Template::Toolkit plugin to allow caching of includes
10:43 magnuse           bug 7387
10:43 paul_p            QAing 7387
10:02 asaurat           bis bald, kf!
10:01 huginn`           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6968 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, colin.campbell, Needs Signoff , Show items expired before today in check expiration of serials page
10:01 asaurat           testing bug 6968
10:01 kf_mtg            will be back later - happy bug squashing :)
10:01 kf                lol
10:01 drojf1            so when are we doing all those video tutorials that are requested lately? ;)
09:52 kf                magnuse: that one is really old - zeno did the schema things
09:49 magnuse           i seem to remember zeno tajoli being involved with that graphic, but i might be wrong
09:49 drojf1            yes, it's old. 9 May 2010. i was just wondering how to get that kind of graphical output. SQL::Translator seems to be the answer
09:49 kf                [off] seems it was atz? http://librarypolice.com/wiki.koha.org/en:development:dbschema.html
09:47 kf                paul_p: I think it's really old - the pic I mean.
09:47 drojf1            kf: created by SQL::Translator 0.07, it's in the picture. thanks for your link, that looks lovely
09:47 paul_p            drojf1 no, I don't know how Kohastructure.png has been generated. Maybe some tool from schema.koha-community.org ?
09:47 kf                and I don't have memcache working here
09:45 kf                paul_p: meeting and too much work
09:45 paul_p            (this bug has been reported by you)
09:45 kf                paul_p: not today
09:45 paul_p            I think I can QA it &push quickly
09:45 huginn`           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7432 critical, P1 - high, ---, paul.poulain, Needs Signoff , Changing frameworks should refresh cache
09:45 kf                bug 7432
09:45 kf                do you know about schema.koha-community.org
09:45 paul_p            kf ? could you signoff 7432 ?
09:45 kf                I think it was not nengard, but perhaps paul?
09:44 kf                drojf1: not sure, it's quite old
09:39 drojf1            oh, its there in the lower right corner. im just blind, or the pic is too big ;)
09:38 drojf1            or did nengard do that by hand? (i hope not)
09:38 drojf1            anybody knows how this was generated? http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/File:Kohastructure.png
09:35 huginn`           04Bug 6199: enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, robin, Needs Signoff , Allow bulkmarcimport to blank duplicate barcodes rather than skipping items
09:35 sophie_m          taking http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6199
09:22 huginn`           New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7286] fix rebuild_zebra.pl to add rebuild_zebra_sliced.zsh <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7286>
09:08 christophe_c      ;-)
09:07 kf                hi christophe_c :)
09:07 wahanui           privet, christophe_c
09:07 christophe_c      hello
09:05 kf                drojf1:  :)
09:03 huginn`           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7489 normal, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Needs Signoff , Implement DisplayOPACiconsXSLT for NORMARC XSLT
09:03 magnuse           bug 7489 should be an easy signoff :-)
08:57 drojf1            one day we will suddenly expand and need that. i wish :)
08:56 kf                to limit search to those branches
08:56 kf                then the library pull down in opac will offer the search group
08:56 drojf1            ah, that rings a bell
08:56 kf                and want to group them by area
08:55 kf                say you have a lot of branches
08:55 kf                you can use groups to group libraries together for search
08:55 drojf1            yes
08:55 kf                drojf1: you hardly get there after initial setup
08:55 drojf1            kf: ok, maybe i just dont remember because we don't need it. haven't had a look in the actual system in a while
08:54 kf                magnuse++
08:52 mib_ftvpyi        i think on chat i am not ale to explain
08:52 kf                drojf1: I think it once used to do a lot more that it can do now
08:52 mib_ftvpyi        amit can we speak on phone so that we can have a better clarity
08:52 francharb         morning
08:52 kf                drojf1: no, it's really old
08:48 wahanui           magnuse: I forgot difference
08:48 magnuse           wahanui: forget difference
08:48 drojf1            is groups new? i dont think i remember that
08:47 kf                but don't worry about groups
08:47 kf                yep, you must have a tleast one library
08:47 drojf1            you need one library ;)
08:45 mib_ftvpyi        that means....internally we dont require it
08:44 kf                you can add groups for some opac search feature, but you don't need to
08:44 kf                you need to configure lbraries
08:44 wahanui           documentation is probably at http://koha-community.org/documentation/
08:44 kf                documentation?
08:44 wahanui           difference is, like, merely that 008 uses defined value lists and 260 $a is merely transcribed from the material
08:44 mib_ftvpyi        what is difference
08:44 mib_ftvpyi        What is library , branches and group in administration
08:43 Amit_Gupta        heya kf :D
08:43 kf                mib_ftvpyi: do't ask to ask - just ask :)
08:43 Amit_Gupta        heya mib_ftvpyi
08:41 mib_ftvpyi        ??????????
08:41 mib_ftvpyi        Can some 1 help me in koha
08:41 huginn`           kf: The current temperature in Marseille, France is -3.0�C (9:30 AM CET on February 03, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: -9.0�C. Windchill: -10.0�C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Rising).
08:41 kf                @wunder marseille
08:40 huginn`           kf: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -8.0�C (9:20 AM CET on February 03, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 38%. Dew Point: -20.0�C. Windchill: -18.0�C. Pressure: 30.66 in 1038 hPa (Steady).
08:40 kf                @wunder boo
08:40 huginn`           kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -12.3�C (9:39 AM CET on February 03, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: -17.0�C. Windchill: -17.0�C. Pressure: 30.43 in 1030.4 hPa (Steady).
08:40 kf                @wunder Konstanz
08:39 mib_ftvpyi        r u free?
08:38 mib_ftvpyi        mean queries
08:38 mib_ftvpyi        i have few query
08:37 wahanui           hi, mib_ftvpyi
08:37 mib_ftvpyi        hi
08:34 huginn`           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7457 normal, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Needs Signoff , basket.pl makes a lot of noise in the logs
08:34 asaurat           and bug 7457
08:34 kf                asaurat: I havet them all on my todo list even I think - only no time right now :(
08:33 huginn`           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7488 minor, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Needs Signoff , Errors with logs about moremember.pl / Messaging.pm
08:33 asaurat           bug 7488
08:33 kf                fair :)
08:33 asaurat           kf: yes, I'll sign some bugs today, I'm just telling which bugs of mine are easy to test =)
08:32 kf                asaurat: a way to make that happen faster is by signing off on someon else's bug
08:32 drojf1            hi asaurat
08:32 asaurat           hallo drojf1!
08:32 drojf1            moin kf :)
08:32 kf                guten morgen drojf1 :)
08:32 drojf1            good day #koha
08:32 huginn`           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4969 minor, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Needs Signoff , Vendors can not be deleted / show only active vendors
08:32 asaurat           bug 4969
08:32 asaurat           bugs I sent a patch for, and which should be quickly tested:
08:30 kf                hi gaetan_B
08:30 kf                :)
08:28 gaetan_B          hello
08:11 rangi             wb kf
08:11 asaurat           hi !!
08:11 magnuse           kf: and you out-ran them!
08:11 kf                hi asaurat
08:10 kf                ;)
08:10 kf                had to run from the yetis
08:10 magnuse           no need to send out a jolly rescue party
08:10 magnuse           woohoo, kf made it!
08:10 kf                hi again #koha
08:06 hdl               hi rangi
08:06 rangi             hi hdl and sophie_m
08:05 sophie_m          hi #koha
08:00 rangi             no problem
08:00 * paul_p          hope the lemontree in his garden will survive... fortunately there is almost no wind
07:59 paul_p            -4°C ! the coldest i've ever seen in 12 years in Marseille probably !!!
07:59 huginn`           paul_p: The current temperature in Marseille, France is -4.0�C (8:30 AM CET on February 03, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: -9.0�C. Windchill: -11.0�C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
07:59 paul_p            @weather marseille
07:58 paul_p            rangi thx for jenkins DB fix !
07:58 paul_p            hi rangi (seen your "later")
07:58 Amit_Gupta        heya paul_p, rangi
07:58 rangi             hi paul_p Guillaume and julian_m
07:52 paul_p            hi magnuse
07:52 julian_m          hello magnuse
07:50 magnuse           bonjour julian_m paul_p
07:44 magnuse           that reminds me i need to try getting memcached set up on my server
07:43 rangi             (everything we memoize_memcached was being set for infinite timeout so never timing out .. and getting refreshed)
07:43 rangi             it fixes a really nasty bug
07:43 rangi             that would be excellent
07:43 huginn`           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7432 critical, P1 - high, ---, paul.poulain, Needs Signoff , Changing frameworks should refresh cache
07:43 rangi             if someone could sign off on bug 7432
07:42 wahanui           magnuse: I forgot bug 4032
07:42 magnuse           wahanui: forget bug 4032
07:42 magnuse           yay
07:42 huginn`           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4032 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, henridamien, NEW , XSLT systempreference should take a path to file rather than YesNo
07:42 wahanui           bug 4032 is completely independent
07:42 magnuse           bug 4032
07:42 reiveune          hi everybody, I'm on bz4032 today
07:41 magnuse           bonjour reiveune
07:41 rangi             hi reiveune
07:41 reiveune          hello
07:41 mbalmer           I'm going to freez...
07:41 cait              not much better
07:41 mbalmer           fuck
07:41 huginn`           mbalmer: The current temperature in Zonnebos, Steenokkerzeel, Belgium is -11.5�C (8:40 AM CET on February 03, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: -14.0�C. Windchill: -12.0�C. Pressure: 30.78 in 1042.2 hPa (Steady).
07:41 mbalmer           @wunder bruxelles
07:41 rangi             thats stupid cold
07:41 huginn`           mbalmer: Error: No such location could be found.
07:41 mbalmer           @wunder brussels
07:40 cait              time to go
07:40 magnuse           hey, that's up 0.1!
07:40 cait              *sigh*
07:40 cait              ...
07:40 cait              oh from 12.8 to 12.7
07:40 huginn`           cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -12.7�C (8:34 AM CET on February 03, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: -16.0�C. Windchill: -17.0�C. Pressure: 30.41 in 1029.7 hPa (Rising).
07:40 cait              @wunder Konstanz
07:40 magnuse           ooh...
07:40 huginn`           magnuse: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 18.0�C (8:00 PM NZDT on February 03, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
07:40 magnuse           @wunder wellington, nz
07:39 mbalmer           good morning
07:39 cait              hi mbalmer
07:39 magnuse           hiya mbalmer
07:35 cait              we still do... but having git is better than having no git
07:35 cait              heh
07:35 magnuse           then the packages came along and saved me... ;-)
07:35 * magnuse         did that for 2,5 years
07:33 rangi             plus running production code, in your home dir = bad wrong and evil :)
07:33 alex_a            yes
07:33 rangi             because normally you do it from a tarball, and dont even have a git checkout
07:33 rangi             nothing runs out of the git checkout
07:33 rangi             the scripts too
07:33 rangi             usually /usr/share/koha
07:33 magnuse           i think C4 lives in /usr/share/koha or something?
07:32 magnuse           in standard the files are scattered in different places - in dev you run off a git repo
07:32 alex_a            only sow that configuration files and log goes in /etc/koha and /var/log. but what eles ?
07:32 cait              files and directories live in other places
07:31 alex_a            i've installed koha in standard mode for the first time yesterday (:)). But anyone can tell what is the difference between standard and dev mode ?
07:28 magnuse           hehe
07:28 alex_a            magnuse: houses yes but not the people
07:28 cait              brr
07:28 magnuse           i can imagine the biblibre office being quite cold with that tempaerature...
07:28 magnuse           and houses are probably not built for it?
07:27 alex_a            magnuse: yes, very very cold
07:26 magnuse           wow, that's cold for Marseille, isn't it?
07:26 cait              I still don't want to walk to work
07:26 alex_a            bonjour cait magnuse
07:26 cait              magnuse: no
07:26 magnuse           bonjour alex_a
07:26 magnuse           there is another place called Drevsj� not too far from R�ros that had -36,5 at 07 this morning - better now cait? ;-)
07:26 huginn`           cait: The current temperature in Marseille, France is -4.0�C (8:00 AM CET on February 03, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: -9.0�C. Windchill: -11.0�C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
07:26 cait              @wunder Marseille
07:26 cait              morning alex_a
07:26 alex_a            morning koha
07:25 huginn`           magnuse: The current temperature in Roros Lufthavn, Norway is -32.0�C (7:50 AM CET on February 03, 2012). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: -36.0�C. Windchill: -38.0�C. Pressure: 30.63 in 1037 hPa (Steady).
07:25 magnuse           @wunder drevsjo, norway
07:21 magnuse           hehe
07:21 cait              only not feels like it right now
07:21 cait              there are places colder than here
07:21 cait              ok
07:21 huginn`           magnuse: The current temperature in Kautokeino, Norway is -28.0�C (7:00 AM CET on February 03, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: -31.0�C. Pressure: 30.80 in 1043 hPa (Falling).
07:21 magnuse           @wunder kautokeino
07:21 magnuse           hiya Amit_Gupta
07:04 huginn`           cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -12.8�C (7:59 AM CET on February 03, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: -17.0�C. Windchill: -17.0�C. Pressure: 30.40 in 1029.3 hPa (Steady).
07:04 cait              @wunder Konstanz
06:56 cait              hi Amit_Gupta
06:54 Amit_Gupta        heya cait, magnuse
06:38 magnuse           bbiab
06:37 magnuse           brr
06:37 cait              hmpf
06:37 huginn`           magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -8.0�C (7:20 AM CET on February 03, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 42%. Dew Point: -19.0�C. Windchill: -19.0�C. Pressure: 30.66 in 1038 hPa (Steady).
06:37 magnuse           @wunder boo
06:37 huginn`           cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -12.8�C (7:35 AM CET on February 03, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: -16.0�C. Windchill: -13.0�C. Pressure: 30.40 in 1029.3 hPa (Rising).
06:37 cait              @wunder Konstanz
05:33 huginn`           cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -12.0�C (6:29 AM CET on February 03, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: -16.0�C. Windchill: -15.0�C. Pressure: 30.38 in 1028.7 hPa (Rising).
05:33 cait              @wunder Konstanz
05:16 cait              hi #koha
05:05 bencahill         g'night, #koha :)
04:18 mib_yrhs32        hi
03:57 Space_Librarian   right #koha - seeya next week!
03:26 Amit_Gupta        heya bag
02:59 huginn`           jcamins_away: The operation succeeded.
02:59 jcamins_away      @later tell wizzyrea Thanks!
02:59 huginn`           jcamins_away: The operation succeeded.
02:59 jcamins_away      @later tell wizzyrea Could you please update the front page on the Koha website so that the "Bugs to be signed off" link points to the current list of bugs to be signed off?
02:14 Space_Librarian   hai there ibeardslee - new job is going! ;)
02:12 * druthb          does a happy dance, too!
02:10 * Space_Librarian *does a happy dance*
02:08 druthb            !  :D :D
02:08 Space_Librarian   Ruth! :D
02:08 druthb            o/
01:37 ibeardslee        oh hai Space_Librarian how is the new job going?
01:35 Space_Librarian   Absolutely brilliant. Thanks mtj!
01:28 Space_Librarian   Thanks! I'll try it. :)
01:27 Space_Librarian   orly? *has a look*
01:23 mtj               its the 'Holds to Pull at Branch' sql, with the WHERE stuff removed...
01:23 mtj               something like that?
01:22 pastebot          "mtj" at 203.97.99.222 pasted "sql" (9 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/240
01:22 mtj               'Holds to Pull at Branch'
01:19 Space_Librarian   I love wahanui sometimes.
01:19 wahanui           hmmm... sql reports library is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/SQL_Reports_Library
01:19 Space_Librarian   SQL reports library...
01:19 mtj               (thought i might get lucky :) )
01:19 Space_Librarian   yep
01:18 mtj               koha reports?
01:18 mtj               reports?
01:16 Space_Librarian   right, people of #koha - help! I've looked through the wiki, and I can't find anything... looking for a report to pull "all items with holds placed on them" - do we have this somewhere? Have I just missed it? Help?
01:15 bencahill         I ran some cpu tests a few days ago comparing it against my (~6-year-old) laptop's athlon64 1.8 (single-core), and the laptop beat it by a factor of about 1.5, so... :P
01:14 mtj               sounds like a 'cpu is just too slow' problem
01:14 bencahill         mainly just the p4 then, and not much I can do at this point?
01:14 bencahill         yeh
01:13 mtj               ok, not much....
01:13 bencahill         about 2k biblios and items
01:12 mtj               but, if you have a Koha with not much data in it, those techniques wont make too much difference
01:11 mtj               and run mysqltuner.pl on your box too
01:10 mtj               ive used that method on prod systems with good results
01:10 mtj               have a raided mysql filesystem, and a unraided fast zebra disk
01:09 bencahill         mtj: gotcha...I might try that, I'm sure I've got a disk I could use somewhere around here :P
01:09 mtj               same with disk stuff too
01:08 mtj               zebra and mysql often get busy under load, a multi-core cpu handles that a bit better
01:05 bencahill         mtj: why so?
01:05 mtj               and having your zebra database on a 2nd disk
01:05 bencahill         mtj: but yeah, will get one at some point
01:05 bencahill         mtj: that read a little odd, one less than core :P
01:05 mtj               bencahill: re; Koha tuning, try a 1<core cpu
01:05 bencahill         lol, okay, I'm done now
01:04 wahanui           i heard ubuntu was a operating system
01:04 bencahill         ubuntu?
01:02 bencahill         I think I'll take me one of the bot
01:02 bencahill         well, true dat as well :P
01:01 wahanui           somebody said arch was extremely simple in philosophy...so the less 'stuff', the better
01:01 bencahill         arch?
01:01 bencahill         true dat
01:01 wahanui           windows is, like, a poor fit for free software like Koha. Some of the thing's we use heavily are not easily available at the moment. No-one's funded Koha 3.x for Windows and I'm not sure who'd be willing to work on it. You are probably best off using a liveCD for testing, then commissioning a GNU/Linux server
01:01 bencahill         windows?
01:01 * bencahill       detests windows, if only for its slowness
01:00 bencahill         hehe
00:59 mtj               but hay... good to hear that you *aren't* running it in a windows VM
00:59 bencahill         mtj: ironically, I am on windows right now...using putty with a couple of screen sessions :P
00:59 bencahill         mtj: ;)
00:59 bencahill         I just wanted to see if I could get it any faster atm, eventually will be getting a faster server
00:59 mtj               bencahill:  oops, sorry - i misread my scrollback :p
00:57 bencahill         lol
00:57 wahanui           no is failing unit tests
00:57 bencahill         mtj: no... ?
00:57 * jcamins_away    goes to eat dinner.
00:57 jcamins_away      That's your problem.
00:57 jcamins_away      On a P4?
00:57 jcamins_away      Ohhh.
00:57 jcamins_away      Good luck.
00:57 jcamins_away      bencahill: definitely need to tune MySQL, then.
00:57 mtj               bencahill:  be aware that you are running a VM on windows :)
00:54 bencahill         jcamins_away: I hadn't seen that tuning page before...I'm checking that out now, thx
00:53 bencahill         only 235MB in use right now
00:53 bencahill         actually, no...it's 1GB
00:52 bencahill         iirc
00:52 bencahill         640MB :-/
00:52 jcamins_away      bencahill: how much RAM?
00:52 bencahill         sweet
00:52 jcamins_away      bencahill: but, see http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_Tuning_Guide
00:52 bencahill         jcamins_away: np ;)
00:52 bencahill         jcamins_away: I forgot to mention, this is on a p4 2.5...is this about the fastest I can expect?
00:52 jcamins_away      bencahill: not much, as it's almost time for dinner and I'm starving.
00:47 bencahill         jcamins_away: could you give me some advice? I'm not quite a mysql expert :P
00:46 jcamins_away      bencahill: you'll need to tune your MySQL settings most likely. That seems rather long.
00:45 bencahill         okay, I've run Devel::NYTProf on mainpage.pl, and it took about 5 sec, highest is 673ms for DBI::st::execute