Time  Nick         Message
23:59 apaes        Hi everyone
23:54 jcamins      http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/SQL_Reports_Library#Track_In_House_Use
23:53 jcamins      (we have a bot that's supposed to answer that question)
23:53 jcamins      Argh!
23:53 jcamins      report library?
23:53 jcamins      reports library?
23:52 mib_v9kgbo   Our library does have a statistical patron set up for tracking in-house use.
23:51 mib_v9kgbo   However, I'm also pretty new to reports in Koha!
23:51 mib_v9kgbo   I've been trying to set up a report that would give me the info, but haven't been successful yet.
23:50 mib_v9kgbo   Sorry for the delayed response here; duty called. :) My question is, how does one view local use stats for a particular group of items?
23:20 jcamins      (I'm only sort of here, but I'll answer if I can)
23:20 jcamins      mib_v9kgbo: what problem are you having?
23:18 jcamins      mib_v9kgbo: it should be in the manual.
23:16 jcamins      mib_v9kgbo: you create a special statistics patron and check books out to that patron.
23:16 mib_v9kgbo   Ah, no worries.  Does anyone have experience with local use statistics?
23:06 maximep      on that note, good weekend everyone!
23:05 maximep      i'm afraid there won't be too much people in here on a friday night
23:03 mib_v9kgbo   Greetings Koha enthusiasts!  My name is Jess, and this is my first time chatting.
22:51 maximep      3.6.3 & 3.4.8, yay
22:06 bag          bummer no wahanui
22:06 bag          NateC?
22:06 * jcamins    gives drojf the duct tape.
21:46 jcamins      Hehe.
21:46 wizzyrea     ha
21:44 trea1        i'll just leave this here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=iN5jPQdJXYE#!
21:29 NateC        Hi jcamins!
21:28 * jcamins    wonders why wahanui decided not to say "I LIKE SPACE" this time.
21:28 jcamins      Hi NateC.
21:22 jcamins      Neither have I. I have potatoes to use, and I suspect they may be a bit too old for baked potatoes.
21:21 wizzyrea     so probably not
21:21 wizzyrea     I always thought you really *needed* a potato ricer
21:21 wizzyrea     now that's a good question.
21:21 wizzyrea     hm
21:04 jcamins      wizzyrea: have you ever made the gnocchi with regular potatoes?
20:55 wizzyrea     hi there :)
20:55 jcamins      Hi wizzyrea!
20:54 wizzyrea     weaving is fun too though
20:54 * wizzyrea   waves
20:54 * Guest689   weaves
20:46 chris_n      [off] looks like another innocent soul has followed the pied piper of redmond
20:14 maximep      cya
20:14 jcamins      Have a good weekend.
20:14 * jcamins    didn't like wxWindows very much.
20:14 * oleonard   waves goodbye to #koha
20:14 jcamins      maximep: no, you're right.
20:14 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3215 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , It would be nice if "Add to Cart" changed to "Remove from Cart"
20:14 * oleonard   thinks he's got the glitches on Bug 3215 worked out but will have to wait 'til Monday to be sure
20:13 maximep      no u shouldnt :p
20:12 jcamins      I should be using wxWindows for all my cross-platform development.
20:12 jcamins      My apartment's is APRSWXNET.
20:11 maximep      now I wish I would use bsd
20:11 maximep      mine is KERNBSD
20:09 oleonard     The code for my local weather station is "KOHATHEN4." That's freaky.
20:09 maximep      sun ? forgot what it looks like
20:09 jcamins      Ooh! It's sun!
19:54 maximep      cyqb, heh
19:54 maximep      cool
19:54 huginn`      maximep: Error: No such location could be found.
19:54 maximep      @wunder 71392
19:54 jcamins      As did I.
19:53 oleonard     maximep: I looked it up on http://www.wunderground.com, which provides the info to the bot
19:53 oleonard     Damn, and I took 32!
19:52 huginn`      oleonard: The current temperature in Quebec, Quebec is -5.0�C (2:22 PM EST on January 27, 2012). Conditions: Light Ice Pellets. Humidity: N/A%. Windchill: -14.0�C. Pressure: (Falling).
19:52 maximep      of course u found it in 30 secs
19:52 oleonard     @wunder cyqb
19:52 maximep      wow.
19:52 huginn`      jcamins: The current temperature in Quebec, Quebec is -5.0�C (2:22 PM EST on January 27, 2012). Conditions: Light Ice Pellets. Humidity: N/A%. Windchill: -14.0�C. Pressure: (Falling).
19:52 jcamins      @wunder cyqb
19:52 maximep      aupaluk ?!?!
19:52 huginn`      maximep: The current temperature in Aupaluk, Quebec is -29.0�C (1:00 PM EST on January 27, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: -32.0�C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1014 hPa (Falling).
19:52 maximep      @wunder yqc
19:51 huginn`      maximep: Error: No such location could be found.
19:51 maximep      @wunder quebec
19:51 huginn`      maximep: Error: No such location could be found.
19:51 maximep      @wunder quebec city
19:51 maximep      never found how to get the weather for quebec city with that bot
19:51 huginn`      oleonard: The current temperature in Ohio University, Athens, Ohio is 2.0�C (2:50 PM EST on January 27, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: -0.0�C. Windchill: 2.0�C. Pressure: 29.82 in 1009.7 hPa (Steady).
19:51 oleonard     @wunder 45701
19:51 jcamins      Just raining here.
19:51 maximep      heavy snow all day here
19:50 huginn`      maximep: The current temperature in Montreal, Quebec is 0.0�C (2:48 PM EST on January 27, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: N/A%. Windchill: -6.0�C. Pressure: (Falling).
19:50 maximep      @wunder YUL
19:48 jcamins      You know, it's really depressing the way it's dark at 2:45.
19:43 * jcamins    didn't.
19:40 oleonard     One thing was broken before lunch, now two are. Who came in during lunch and broke the second thing?
19:39 jcamins      That's a good one.
19:38 jcamins      Ah.
19:38 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3215 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , It would be nice if "Add to Cart" changed to "Remove from Cart"
19:38 oleonard     Bug 3215
19:38 jcamins      oleonard: lol. What are you working on?
19:37 oleonard     Okay, this enhancement just needs one... more... thing... Aaaaaand..... Oh, now it's broken.
19:27 jcamins      Yay!
19:27 maximep      were supposed to be able to do it in a few months
19:27 jcamins      Oh, you have a contract that doesn't allow you to open source it? Ugh.
19:27 maximep      trust me, I wish we could and had time to share all this
19:27 jcamins      Then put the jQuery on the wiki so I can crib from it. ;)
19:27 jcamins      You should do that.
19:26 maximep      probably
19:26 jcamins      So that the template changes are just adding IDs, etc.?
19:26 jcamins      Well, is there any way to pull that out of the templates?
19:26 jcamins      That's a disadvantage.
19:26 jcamins      Oh, hm.
19:25 maximep      yeah but it's full of jqtransform bullshit that isn't accessible
19:25 jcamins      You should get your changes into Koha proper so you don't have to rebase.
19:25 jcamins      Wow, that's even prettier.
19:25 maximep      when we had to basically redo it from scratch
19:24 maximep      our 3.2 version looked like this https://soreltracy.koha.ccsr.qc.ca/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=test&idx= , but we kept it simpler for 3.6
19:22 jcamins      You should share that too, then.
19:21 maximep      well there's also template changes to do it :/
19:20 jcamins      maximep: well, yeah, anyone can get the CSS. I meant, you should publicize that. It's awesome!
19:20 maximep      my first koha page
19:20 maximep      aaaaaaaaah I wish I could share that one
19:20 jcamins      And the course reserves code!
19:20 maximep      well it's the web, anyone has access to it =)
19:19 jcamins      You should share the CSS.
19:19 jcamins      That's gorgeous!
19:19 jcamins      maximep: wow!
19:19 jcamins      An option for configuring Zebra.
19:19 maximep      what's ICU ?
19:19 maximep      and then on https://lionelgroulx.koha.ccsr.qc.ca $b has 1500 results and a has 28788. /me is confused
19:18 * jcamins    responded.
19:16 maximep      must have a config somewhere that differs, but never found it
19:16 jcamins      ICU?
19:16 maximep      with the same database. A real mistery :S
19:16 jcamins      Very weird.
19:15 maximep      it returns nothing on some installs :S
19:13 jcamins      It returns all records for me.
19:13 maximep      unless it was 3.2 only
19:12 maximep      the same results
19:12 maximep      hmmmm on one of my installs it returns "b"
19:12 jcamins      Interesting.
19:12 oleonard     For me it returns *almost* all records
19:11 maximep      it seems to work on half of my koha installs :S
19:11 jcamins      One moment while I do so.
19:11 * jcamins    never tried.
19:11 jcamins      $b?
19:11 maximep      random question I always wanted to know the answer. Why does searching $b return all results ?
19:10 maximep      i'm not sure how to set up a virtual host in Apache :S
19:09 jcamins      [off] If you're not sure how to set up a virtual host in Apache, I can't help but think that the rest of the Windows installation process is going to be a bit much for you.
19:08 oleonard     Where's the "Koha on Windows" autoresponder when we need one?
18:46 Culiforge    ***runnin away for now
18:41 Culiforge    no wonder it's controversial
18:40 jcamins      Culiforge: I'm not 100% sure, but something like that.
18:37 Culiforge    so I'm reading about mono and what it's supposed to do to allow me to install marcedit. it unwraps the exe and recompiles the code to run on linux.. is that right?
18:32 Culiforge    tc
18:31 francharb    see ya everyone!
18:31 * francharb  need a break!
18:30 francharb    ;)
18:30 jcamins      francharb: huh! I didn't know that.
18:30 francharb    so i guess she knows a little bit ;)
18:29 francharb    jcamins, well she teached me how to use it
18:29 jcamins      francharb: I don't think druthb uses marcedit. Mostly home-grown scripts.
18:29 francharb    Culiforge, ask druthd, she's real good with marcedit
18:27 jcamins      Culiforge: probably not.
18:27 Culiforge    is there an irc for marcedit? can't seem to find one
18:24 cait         bbiab
18:24 cait         :)
18:19 francharb    i may switch to this one if the rewiews are good
18:18 francharb    i'm waiting to see how this works : http://event.asus.com/mobile/padfone/
18:17 cait         I got it last weekend  - still testing and figuring out things
18:17 francharb    oki
18:14 cait         I am using communi but looking for something better
18:14 cait         meego
18:11 francharb    iphone? android?
18:11 francharb    what irc app do you use?
18:11 francharb    phone?
18:10 jcamins      :)
18:10 cait         should be stable now :)
18:09 cait         changed from phone to laptop
18:09 cait         thx :)
18:09 * jcamins    tosses cait the duct tape.
17:54 jcamins      Ah, yes, it's marked failed qa.
17:54 francharb    Culiforge, ok but it happens... ;)
17:53 jcamins      Wasn't there a patch to add relator codes to the authorized values?
17:53 Culiforge    yeah but it's usually because I missed something glaring in the documentation
17:52 francharb    ;)
17:52 francharb    if your question concern koha at least
17:52 jcamins      :)
17:51 francharb    i guess
17:51 jcamins      ^^ bwahahaha!!! There was a dumb question!
17:51 jcamins      francharb: are you sure?
17:51 francharb    ;)
17:51 francharb    there are no dumb questions!
17:50 Culiforge    sweet. I'm getting somewhere.. I hate to come back with dumb questions because I made a bad assumption
17:49 jcamins      Culiforge: that is correct.
17:49 Culiforge    correct me if i misunderstand this: there are no administrative tasks within the opac, they're all controlled from the staff interface.
17:45 * jcamins    isn't going anywhere for a few more hours.
17:45 francharb    have a nice weekend too
17:45 francharb    ;)
17:45 francharb    thanks! i'm going to work a little bit more though
17:45 jcamins      Have a good weekend, francharb.
17:44 jcamins      :)
17:44 francharb    looks like everybody left biblibre office! i will ask them on monday and i let you know!
17:43 jcamins      I hope you find out that I'm wrong, and that *is* how it works.
17:43 francharb    arrf
17:43 jcamins      But as far as I know, what I just described isn't true. :(
17:43 francharb    jcamins, that what I think too
17:42 jcamins      And CircControl = the library you are logged in at == HomeOrHoldingBranch = the library the item was checked out from.
17:42 francharb    i will chech this out with one of our techies
17:42 jcamins      In principle, CircControl = the library the item from == HomeOrHoldingBranch = the library the item is from
17:41 jcamins      You should trace out the code, though, just in case someone finally fixed that.
17:41 jcamins      francharb: CircControl *should* determine that, but I don't HomeOrHolding is entirely deprecated.
17:41 francharb    i will drop an email to nengard
17:40 francharb    ok thanks jcamins!
17:40 francharb    i always assumed the homeorholdingbranch syspref was here for that
17:40 francharb    how does koha know if he has to use the homebranch or the holdingbranch
17:39 francharb    because, i was wondering how it works if circontrol is on 'the library the item is from'
17:39 jcamins      I'm pretty sure that HomeOrHoldingBranch impacts circulation no matter what.
17:38 francharb    ok
17:38 jcamins      That doesn't sound right.
17:38 francharb    HomeOrHoldingBranch : This preference does nothing unless the IndependantBranches preference is set to 'Prevent'.
17:38 kf           bye all and nice weekend :)
17:38 francharb    the documentation says that
17:37 jcamins      Anyway, what sounds weird?
17:37 francharb    ;)
17:37 francharb    anyway
17:37 francharb    ;)
17:37 francharb    not that late
17:37 jcamins      Okay, not that late.
17:37 francharb    6:30 pm
17:37 francharb    humm
17:37 kf           18:36 ;)
17:37 Culiforge    jcamins: rangi++ I love it
17:37 jcamins      Isn't it late there?
17:37 jcamins      francharb: ... as a bit of light reading before bed? :P
17:37 francharb    and there is something that sounds weird to me
17:37 francharb    'im reading the documentation
17:36 francharb    i've got a question
17:36 francharb    hi all
17:36 huginn`      jcamins: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011)
17:36 jcamins      @quote get 123
17:36 jcamins      Culiforge: ah, that'll be because you don't know...
17:36 Culiforge    unfortunately I'm used to csv and such. I was aware of Marc just not aware of the depth and intricacies.. and power
17:34 jcamins      It'll all make perfect sense in no time. :)
17:34 Culiforge    Like I said, I'm learning my way around
17:33 Culiforge    !facepalm!
17:33 jcamins      Culiforge: I don't really see how one could have a general-purpose 952-populator.
17:33 Culiforge    jcamins: I completely understand that, I was simply expecting some sort of populate feature. .... that's the info I needed.. the 952 field
17:32 jcamins      If you don't have all that information already in electronic format, there's no way around it.
17:32 jcamins      Culiforge: if you have a data file with that information, put the information into 952 fields.
17:31 jcamins      Culiforge: how on earth could Koha know how many copies of a given book you have without you entering that information in?
17:31 Culiforge    or maybe I'm doing something completely daft
17:31 Culiforge    otherwise they don't show up in opac
17:30 Culiforge    when I import a marc file... I have to go back one by one and say "yes, I have (1) of those or (2) of those etc
17:29 oleonard     "imports into circulation" ?
17:28 Culiforge    That and it seems there should be an easier way to put imports into circulation other than one by one.. (or am I completely missing something?)
17:28 jcamins      oleonard: paul_p introduced me to the _ALLRECORDS recordset.
17:26 Culiforge    oleonard: currently learning my way around and only have about 100 records currently. I just feel I need some sort of visual at the moment
17:26 oleonard     jcamins++ # It works!
17:24 * oleonard   doesn't understand the need
17:24 jcamins      Culiforge: enter this into the search box: pqf=@attr 1=_ALLRECORDS @attr 2=103 ""
17:24 oleonard     It's a surprisingly common request Culiforge, but no one has ever made a specific tool for doing so
17:23 oleonard     I suppose if all your records had an itemtype or ccode you could select all itemtypes/ccodes in the advanced search?
17:22 Culiforge    Is there a method in the staff client for viewing all records?
17:04 kf           oh always
17:04 jcamins      Wanting for all the neat new features. :)
17:03 kf           coveting?
16:51 jcamins      And you're already coveting 3.8! :)
16:40 kf           :)
16:40 kf           and missing images
16:40 kf           some css pain
16:40 kf           almost done
16:39 jcamins      How's your upgrade going?
16:39 jcamins      Hello.
16:38 kf           hi jcamins :)
16:36 reiveune     bye
16:30 jcamins      (barely)
16:30 jcamins      Good morning, #koha.
16:15 * chris_n    gives IE a kick as he heads out
16:11 asaurat      bye !
16:08 * magnus_afk wonders briefly if it would hurt to put the "rm newsletter" on http://koha-community.org/ and wanders off to make pizza
16:05 asaurat      http://lesitemac.free.fr/telechargement/media/Amstrad.gif
16:05 asaurat      hmm... blue AND yellow would be perfect =)
16:04 wizzyrea     stupid IE
16:04 wizzyrea     ie--
15:50 kf           ie--
15:50 kf           and ie decided to make one of my opacs blue instead of yellow
15:50 kf           oh!
15:49 * oleonard   's lateorders.pl was broken because he missed a database update
15:41 jenkins_koha chris.nighswonger: Updating Version Number to 3.06.03.000
15:41 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.6.x build #33: SUCCESS in 1 h 10 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.6.x/33/
15:37 kf           if you have some unreceived ordres not from today, it should be enough to close the basket
15:36 kf           and I think maybe the timestamp or another field too
15:35 kf           entrydate must be in the past
15:35 kf           and
15:35 kf           that's an important bit
15:35 kf           close the basket
15:35 kf           you have to
15:35 kf           ah
15:34 oleonard     How exactly does an order become late? I don't have the right data to test with.
15:33 kf           I did a lot of testing on this - I think I would have thought it was intended behaviour if not for that
15:33 oleonard     kf, I'm glad you worked on lateorders.tt. Thanks.
15:32 kf           hi wizzyrea
15:28 oleonard     Hi wizzyrea
15:27 * wizzyrea   waves
15:27 jenkins_koha * chris.nighswonger: Updating Version Number to 3.04.08.000
15:27 jenkins_koha * chris.nighswonger: Release Notes for 3.04.08.000 27 Jan 2012 14:02:53 Z
15:27 jenkins_koha * f.demians: Koha 3.4.8 Translations Update
15:27 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.4.x build #74: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 h 10 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.4.x/74/
15:22 * kf         goes back to testing
15:22 kf           oleonard: sorry for causing confusion - this is weird and not related to the css entry I found - so ignore what I said about opacusercss.
15:17 kf           I will do more tests
15:17 kf           why it happens I mean
15:17 kf           I have no idea :(
15:16 oleonard     I don't find it to be the case
15:15 kf           I deleted one css line from opacusercss and it changed in staff and opac
15:15 kf           yep
15:15 oleonard     ?!
15:15 kf           hm.
15:15 kf           oleonard: plus opacusercss influences staff and opac apparently
15:14 kf           have a nice weekend paul_p
15:14 paul_p       OK RM monthly newsletter #3 sent, I must leave now, some family things... see you on monday #koha !
15:14 kf           oleonard: which makes me think - why did it only break de? and for you it didn't - browser detection? thx for taking a look! :)
15:13 kf           custom css
15:13 kf           oh I think I found it
15:12 kf           when I select German as language
15:12 kf           it breaks after each language for me
15:11 oleonard     I can't see any difference on the main page
15:10 kf           if I switch the language to german something weird happens with the footer - and I just don't spot the difference to the other languages
15:10 kf           [off] could you take a look at http://seminar-esslingen.bsz-bw.de ?
15:09 kf           oh
15:09 oleonard     Yes
15:09 kf           oleonard: around?
14:37 kf           chris_n++
14:34 trea         chris_n++
14:34 chris_n      ok, happy upgrading #koha
14:30 jenkins_koha Starting build #33 for job Koha_3.6.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
14:30 chris_n      but that's par for course for the week
14:30 chris_n      yup, its just messed up here
14:29 * chris_n    gets the feeling its just another part of this week :)
14:29 oleonard     http://screencast.com/t/PuK5Xqa8tkt3
14:28 kf           looks ok to me
14:28 * oleonard   prepares a screenshot
14:28 oleonard     It doesn't look broken to me, but I don't know what it usually looks like
14:28 chris_n      the section above the directory listing looks skewed
14:27 chris_n      or is it just my browser?
14:27 chris_n      can you spot what is messed up with the download page there?
14:26 oleonard     Sorry chris_n, what?
14:24 chris_n      http://paste.koha-community.org/230?hl=on&submit=Format+it%21
14:23 chris_n      oleonard: help... what's screwed up here: http://download.koha-community.org/
14:22 chris_n      3.4.8 is up
14:20 kf           found it when I was testing :)
14:20 kf           chris_n: I know - uli has already done all 5 updates
14:19 chris_n      now for 3.4.8
14:19 chris_n      though it should not cause functional problems during the upgrade if one used the first tarball... only the version number would be wrong which would be fixed on the next upgrade
14:18 chris_n      done
14:17 chris_n      kf: glad you caught it... I was about to do the same thing with 3.4.x :P
14:16 kf           very cool
14:16 chris_n      ok, fix pushed, rolling new tarballs
14:16 jenkins_koha Starting build #74 for job Koha_3.4.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #50 3 mo. 20 j ago)
14:14 kf           don't worry about it
14:14 kf           no big mistake
14:14 kf           chris_n++
14:13 * chris_n    will add some code to his release roll script to check the version number to be sure this does not happen again
14:10 magnus_afk   chris_n++
14:10 paul_p       yes ! jenkins is happy !
14:09 chris_n      just another thing to add to the pile of embarrassing mistakes this week :-(
14:09 chris_n      I'll fix it now and push up new tarballs
14:09 kf           I didn't notice earlier
14:09 chris_n      you are right
14:08 chris_n      kf... ouch
14:08 kf           chris_n: I think we forgot something - the database update to make it 3.6.3
13:57 magnus_afk   woohoo!
13:56 * oleonard   shakes jenkins_koha's hand excitedly
13:55 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6836 enhancement, P2, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , jQuery plugin Datatables integration http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/DataTables_HowTo
13:55 jenkins_koha paul.poulain: Bug 6836 follow-up fixing POD
13:55 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #604: FIXED in 54 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/604/
13:55 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed!
13:43 kf           oleonard: cool no hurry :)
13:39 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3806 minor, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, oleonard, Failed QA , Holidays table doesn't order by date correcly
13:39 * oleonard   is working again on Bug 3806
13:38 oleonard     I'll take a look a little later
13:38 kf           oleonard: another solution for the second patch could be to change the sub in C4:Acquisition - but I was not sure if that was a good idea
13:37 * kf         blames her german keyboard
13:37 kf           I did 2 follow-ups for 7113... could you perhaps take a look?
13:37 * oleonard   offers kf an eye patch
13:37 kf           hi oleonard .)
13:28 oleonard     Hi #koha
13:11 sophie_m     we are very happy that you are coming again
13:09 sophie_m     yes !
13:09 kf           sophie_m: all tickets booked :)
13:08 sophie_m     :-)
13:07 kf           oh wb sophie_m
13:03 kf           we are updating to 3.6.x today and I already want 3.8
13:03 kf           late order management und local cover images are nice
13:02 huginn`      New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_6836' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=209a6fb8c7fea293f8028b9f913c76dca4b53a1f> / Bug 6836 follow-up fixing POD <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=19e3607c49f1cc1d0a19180781102054b2a4e716>
13:02 kf           :)
13:02 paul_p       )
13:02 paul_p       (lot of new things to talk about !!!
13:02 paul_p       now switching to mode "writing RM monthly newsletter #3"
13:01 kf           paul_p++ :)
13:01 jenkins_koha Starting build #604 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #601 3 j 17 h ago)
13:00 paul_p       jenkins should be back to stable in a few minuts...
12:40 jenkins_koha * m.de.rooy: 7367 Removing reintroduced debugging statement from Auth.pm
12:40 jenkins_koha * m.de.rooy: 7439 Mailmap for master
12:40 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 7157 follow-up: j2a.pl executable again
12:39 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 7157 follow-up: j2a.pl executable again
12:39 jenkins_koha * lrea: Bug 7157 - Improve the j2a.pl cronjob
12:39 jenkins_koha * colin.campbell: Bug 6752: Be stricter with utf-8 encoding of output
12:39 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 1633, follow-up, french string
12:39 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 1633 follow-up: Fix jenkins tests
12:39 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 6836: Adding dependency on Modern::Perl
12:39 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Updating perlcriticrc to allow Modern::Perl to suffice instead of use warnings; and use strict;
12:39 jenkins_koha * julian.maurice: Bug 6836: test case readingrec.pl
12:39 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 6836: followup CSS work
12:39 jenkins_koha * julian.maurice: Bug 6836: Add jQuery dataTables plugin
12:39 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #603: STILL UNSTABLE in 54 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/603/
12:36 chris_n      nice
12:36 kf           25 minutes until we start updating ;)
12:36 chris_n      yw
12:36 chris_n      heaya kf
12:36 kf           and thx for the release :)
12:36 kf           hi chris_n
12:36 drojf1       :D
12:36 drojf1       ok
12:36 drojf1       they are still connected somewhere, but the servers don't see each other
12:36 * chris_n    was just being facetious :-)
12:36 drojf1       chris_n: netsplit
12:35 chris_n      ?
12:35 chris_n      everybody quitting
11:57 kf           sophie_m: I won :)
11:52 kf           zürich - marseille trains booked - now only missing the last little step, but should be ok :)
11:50 huginn`      New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_7367' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=81cf767b17994c39dc83930305d4d9d65423db35> / 7367 Removing reintroduced debugging statement from Auth.pm <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9c0ce2bf3b01948b371c2389f958ba981a036031> / Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_7439' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.
11:45 jenkins_koha Starting build #603 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #601 3 j 16 h ago)
11:30 Culiforge    Z39 search does not seem to be working correctly.. do I need to open ports for each Z server on my router?
11:26 * paul_p     ending the morning pushing some patches to koha...
11:14 asaurat      well, the "yaz-icu" package was missing, we installed it and will try after the next zebra rebuild
10:53 kf           or not sur about ae but for other things
10:53 asaurat      ok
10:53 kf           there is a general rule for all diacricitcs
10:53 kf           you don't need to
10:53 asaurat      I don't have lines like <transliterate rule="æ > ae"/>
10:53 kf           there is an icu patch from frederic waiting for sign-off
10:53 asaurat      yep, just for a comment
10:53 kf           but that's for when you are not using icu
10:52 kf           yes
10:52 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2629 minor, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, ago, Pushed to Master , Diacritics not being ignored when searching
10:52 asaurat      bug 2629 seems interesting
10:52 kf           we use icu for one library - and I think it works nicely
10:52 kf           you have to check your icu chains then or however they are called
10:52 kf           the file will not be used
10:52 kf           if you use icu
10:52 kf           oh
10:51 asaurat      it works with some customers, but not for everyone o_o
10:51 asaurat      we are already using icu actually
10:48 kf           2 options
10:48 kf           you can also make it work by using icu
10:48 kf           there is an open bug report for adding diacricits to the file
10:48 kf           search bugzilla for diacricits
10:46 asaurat      maybe... I'm struggling with a problem like this too... a search for "grèce" which gives no result, when it works with "grece" (in DB the accent is present!)
10:44 kf           asaurat: but I think it is used - for marc21 at least. there is a bug adding new diacritics to it
10:40 kf           trying
10:39 kf           :)
10:39 kf           :)
10:38 sophie_m     kf : you must win :-)
10:38 asaurat      ok =)
10:38 kf           fighting with booking train tickets to marseille...
10:38 asaurat      ok but I wonder if this mapping is used if you don't have this line in defaults.idx
10:38 kf           asaurat: sorry afk right now, will be back a bit later
10:37 magnuse      asaurat: better ask kf that, i think - i was just looking at the files in git, not a real installation
10:37 asaurat      magnuse: so, in your  etc/zebradb/etc/defaults.idx you have a line like "charmap word-phrase-utf.chr" ?
10:37 magnuse      same process for all of them, both the ones that work and the ones that do not work?
10:35 ktk          each serial and then added items to each serial with bound volume number and year
10:34 ktk          we downloaded from Library of Congress
10:34 magnuse      etc
10:34 magnuse      were they added before or after the other ones?
10:34 magnuse      were they added to koha in some special way
10:34 magnuse      is there some data in some field that is missing from the ones that do not work?
10:33 magnuse      yeah, you need to figure out what makes those 8 that work different from the ones that do not work
10:33 ktk          but i dont knw what to be done
10:33 ktk          can i make any global change in database
10:33 ktk          those which are not searchable i can see them only from phpMyAdmin by browsing biblio
10:32 magnuse      well, what i think you need to do is take a good, long look at those 8 records that work and some of those that do not work and try to figure out how they are different
10:30 ktk          what is going wrong with my rest of the records of serials
10:29 ktk          those 8 record are searchable in OPAC
10:28 magnuse      what happens if you search for one of those 8 titles?
10:28 ktk          i was wrong i am getting some 8 serial details only
10:28 ktk          sorry it did not show all serials
10:27 ktk          but if i try searching by either barcode, title no results
10:27 ktk          BTW when i searched in advance search and selected Periodical/Serial without mentioning any specific name i get results
10:26 magnuse      ktk: hm, i'm running out of ideas, then
10:25 ktk          no luck still records are not available from OPAC for serials
10:24 ktk          hi magnuse i tried running the script in misc/remove_items_from_biblioitems.pl --run and reindexed data but no lunk
10:10 magnuse      might be a bad idea to say that � and (ae) are equvalent, then?
10:09 kf           yeah I think so
10:09 magnuse      could it be that ae is taken as equvalent to � which is mapped to a?
10:09 kf           that's a bad idea then
10:08 kf           and ä = a
10:08 magnuse      45 map �                  a
10:08 kf           oh
10:08 magnuse      60 map Ó•                  (ae)
10:08 magnuse      45 map �                  a
10:08 magnuse      16 equivalent ӕä(ae)
10:08 magnuse      it has
10:08 magnuse      hm, i'm looking at http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=etc/zebradb/etc/word-phrase-utf.chr;h=b41b298bf34e19f2d15e5bce80ba2717af33453c;hb=eac7c17e9fc7c444b8fdfa8637f4a5e4047e3e82
10:07 kf           only it's only missa in the record
10:07 kf           but missae does...
10:07 kf           which is right
10:07 kf           and miss doesn't find anything
10:07 kf           off
10:07 hdl          kf truncation ?
10:04 kf           this is really weird
10:04 kf           yep
10:04 magnuse      yeah, could be that, but that's off to, right?
10:03 kf           stemming?
10:03 kf           so it ignores the e?
10:03 gaetan_B     hi AmitG :)
10:03 magnuse      oh
10:03 magnuse      what you just typed looked good :-)
10:03 kf           doesn't find the record
10:03 AmitG_       heya gaetan_B
10:03 kf           missæ
10:03 pastebot     "magnuse" at 109.189.10.165 pasted "missæ" (1 line) at http://paste.koha-community.org/229
10:03 kf           æ
10:02 kf           nope
10:02 magnuse      hm, that might not display properly?
10:02 kf           ??
10:01 magnuse      what happens if you search for miss�?
09:57 kf           word-phrase...
09:57 kf           /koha-dev/etc/zebradb/etc
09:57 * magnuse    is just guessing
09:57 magnuse      which file is the mapping file again?
09:57 kf           circular
09:57 kf           oh
09:57 magnuse      and � to a, or something
09:57 kf           hm?
09:56 magnuse      if there is a mapping from � to ae...
09:56 kf           I checked the mapping file, but it seems ok to me
09:56 kf           but missa and missae both work
09:56 * magnuse    was just thinking that
09:56 kf           because miss = finds nothing
09:56 kf           it's something about ae
09:56 kf           the trucate is off
09:55 kf           I am looking at english interface... will try to toggle them and test again, thx!
09:54 kf           gaetan_B: this is a 3.2.2... so perhaps even more likely to have some bugs
09:54 kf           magnuse: missae isn't mentioned in the record
09:52 gaetan_B     kf: just in case, we noticed that in 3.6, in the french translation, the values are inverted for quite a few sysprefs ("activated" read "désactivée" in french!) it was the case for fuzzy search, which was then on when it should have been off...
09:52 magnuse      kf: you're sure missa isn't mentioned somewhere in the record?
09:41 kf           hdl: fuzzy is off :(
09:38 kf           the fuzzy switch broken?
09:38 hdl          it is fuzzy :D
09:37 kf           anyone an idea why a search for missae will find missa with fuzzy and everything else turned off?
09:36 kf           hm ok
09:33 * kmkale     has a working kvm based Koha VM image in case someone is interested
09:12 ktk          ok that is fine
09:12 rangi        ktk: have to rebuild zebra after too
09:12 kf           hi AmitG
09:11 rangi        heya AmitG
09:11 magnuse      namaste AmitG
09:11 ktk          now i have already skipped this and have new koha running can i only run the above script
09:11 AmitG        heya magnuse, ktk, rangi
09:10 magnuse      misc/maintenance/remove_items_from_biblioitems.pl
09:10 magnuse      see line 341 etc here: http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;f=INSTALL.debian;hb=HEAD#l341
09:09 ktk          is it in install_misc
09:07 rangi        its in the INSTALL file, in the upgrade section
09:07 ktk          oh which script
09:07 kf           there was a major change between those versions and you have to run a script
09:07 ktk          it is running
09:07 kf           then this might be the problem
09:07 kf           ah
09:07 ktk          yes
09:07 kf           are you using zebra?
09:07 ktk          no i did not run any script i just ran three commands perl Makefile.PL, make and make upgrade
09:06 magnuse      yeah, that's what we are trying to figure out :-)
09:06 ktk          but my question is when i can see records in database through phpmyadmin with itemnumber, biblionumber, barcode, title what is wrong
09:06 magnuse      did you run the script to remove items from the records when you upgraded to 3.4?
09:05 ktk          no i dont think so no different in the workflow
09:05 magnuse      ktk: how about kf's other question: "how did you add the serial records? was there anything different in the workflow than for other records?"
09:05 magnuse      ktk: ok, we can rule that out then
09:02 ktk          found and it is set to "dont hide"
09:01 magnuse      try searching for OpacSuppression in the sysprefs
09:00 ktk          i dont see supress link in sys pref
08:50 kf           ktk: how did you add the serial records? was there anything different in the workflow than for other records?
08:49 magnuse      there is a syspref called "OpacSuppression" - what is that set to?
08:49 ktk          hw to unsupress and check if they are suppressed
08:48 kf           in staff
08:48 kf           hm you should still be able to find them
08:48 ktk          no hw does that happen
08:47 ktk          or if we search in kohaadmin with either title, biblionumber,barcode no results
08:47 kf           did you suppress records?
08:47 kf           hm
08:47 ktk          if we search in opac with title no results
08:46 kf           which search option?
08:46 kf           opac/staff
08:46 kf           and where are you searching?
08:46 magnuse      or can you see the records and not the issues?
08:46 magnuse      just to be sure: when you search do you get any hits on serials at all? or have they dissapeared completely?
08:42 ktk          but i can see these records in phpmyadmin
08:42 ktk          if i try to search in kohaadmin for either by biblionumber or title it does not work
08:42 magnuse      and the serials have dissappeared completely? no sign of them when you search?
08:41 ktk          i checked the database in phpmyadmin and it shows records and i can see biblionumber, biblioitem, barcode
08:40 magnuse      hm, that's weird
08:40 ktk          yes it was working
08:37 magnuse      ktk: did it work before you upgraded from 3.2?
08:30 kf           hi asaurat :)
08:30 asaurat      hi kf!
08:28 kf           :)
08:28 sophie_m     Guten Morgen kf :-)
08:27 kf           hi sophie_m
08:26 ktk          yes it works for other things
08:24 kf           hi 'koha
08:21 magnuse      ktk: is it just serials you can't search? does it work for other things?
08:18 paul_p_      good morning #koha
08:15 ktk          we have not been able to search our serials in opac. we just upgraded from 3.2.10-3.04-06 and then to 3.6.3. We can see all titles in reports but it is not searching in OPAC how to make these serials visible in OPAC
08:09 julian_m     hello
08:08 asaurat      hi!!
08:06 hdl          magnuse: great.
08:04 magnuse      bonjour gaetan_B
08:04 gaetan_B     hello
07:58 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6440 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , Koha's OAI-PMH does not support sets
07:58 * magnuse    plans to look at bug 6440 today
07:57 magnuse      hiya hdl mbalmer cait___
07:55 hdl          hi
07:54 cait         bbiab
07:54 cait         hi reiveune and hdl
07:42 reiveune     :)
07:42 magnuse      bonjour reiveune
07:42 reiveune     hello
07:42 huginn`      magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 1.0�C (8:20 AM CET on January 27, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: -7.0�C. Windchill: -6.0�C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Rising).
07:42 magnuse      @wunder boo
07:42 huginn`      cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 1.7�C (8:40 AM CET on January 27, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: 1.0�C. Windchill: 2.0�C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1022.9 hPa (Steady).
07:42 cait         @wunder Konstanz
07:42 cait         it rains
07:40 cait         heya
07:39 magnuse      hiya cait
07:36 cait         good morning magnuse :)
07:24 magnuse      kia ora #koha!
07:23 cait         hm
07:19 cait         morning alex_a :)
07:18 alex_a       morning #koha
06:11 cait         hi francharb
06:10 francharb    hi
05:15 cait___      hi #koha
04:48 bag          heh
04:48 bag          heya kmkale
04:48 kmkale       never realized I had got disconnected ;)
04:48 kmkale       Namaste bag
04:11 bag          yo kmkale
04:11 bag          yo AmitG
03:35 AmitG        hmm
03:35 kmkale       No way in hell !
03:35 AmitG        kmkale what do you think india save the match?
03:34 kmkale       Namaste AmitG
03:34 AmitG        heya kmkale
03:33 * kmkale     is installing Koha on a kvm virtual machine
03:30 AmitG        Good morning #koha :D
03:30 AmitG        heya bag
02:29 druthb       I'm off for the night...just wanted to pop in and see who was about.  be well!
02:29 huginn`      druthb: jcamins was last seen in #koha 1 day, 5 hours, 30 minutes, and 11 seconds ago: * jcamins heads to Forest Hills to fill up a suitcase and head back into the city to catch a bus to the suburbs.
02:29 druthb       @seen jcamins
02:27 druthb       :D  Hi, rangi. :)
02:27 rangi        hi druthb
02:27 druthb       o/
02:22 Culiforge    currently running koha on localhost.. could anyone speculate as to why it runs so slow.. my regular internet browsing is faster than what koha is running..
02:05 Culiforge    mtj: sry, had to step away... wife came home and got in an accident in the mall parking lot.. minor emergency
01:06 mtj          ... bbiab
01:03 mtj          > show databases;
01:01 Culiforge    hmm not remembering the name.. that's why I try list databases; tells me syntax error...
00:59 mtj          > use yourdatabasename;
00:59 Culiforge    list databases; tells me I have an error in my syntax
00:58 Culiforge    hmm, tells me no database selected
00:55 mtj          see, it's not so hard  ;)
00:55 mtj          > delete from borrowers;
00:54 mtj          > delete from borrowers where borrowernumber = '777';
00:54 Culiforge    right now I can't even find how to delete one by one..
00:53 Culiforge    I'm not very nimble with sql... :(
00:52 mtj          Culiforge:  you can always delete anything bulk-style via SQL
00:49 Culiforge    when I installed Koha, it setup all these sample libraries and patrons... I thought I selected not to but there they are... is there a way to remove them bulk style or am I left to browse through the alpha listings one by one for them?