Time  Nick           Message
23:06 nengard        HA!
22:57 huginn         gmcharlt: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
22:57 gmcharlt       @date
22:57 huginn         gmcharlt: I've exhausted my database of quotes
22:57 gmcharlt       @time
22:57 huginn         New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5668] Star ratings in the opac <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5668>
21:56 cait           night :)
21:52 wizzyrea       for transit and whatnot
21:52 wizzyrea       holds use the set library, iirc
21:50 cait           set branch sounds logical to me
21:49 wizzyrea       and does anyone else have an opinion about that?
21:48 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7001 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, srdjan, ASSIGNED , User Configurable Slips
21:48 wizzyrea       bug 7001 - does that last comment make sense?
21:48 rangi          all four students now have their names on the about page in koha
21:46 rangi          more than 7 tests
21:46 rangi          well 7 modules had more tests for them written
21:45 rangi          7 all up
21:45 ibeardslee     rangi: and how many unit tests were completed last year
21:13 rangi          dont want to leave chrisdothall to deal with many more than that for the last 3 days
21:13 jcamins_away   Good night, #koha.
21:13 rangi          hmm, gonna be 2 of us for the first 2 days, so we could handle up around 6 i think
21:13 jcamins_away   Okay, I've finished this author. Time to call it a night.
21:12 ibeardslee     rangi: what was the max you wanted for the Koha project?
21:11 oleonard       Ciao #koha
21:11 * liw          applauds rising test coverage percentages
21:07 rangi          http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/HTML_Report/?  C4::Boolean is currently my favourite, 100% across the board
20:58 rhcl           cool http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_9bspQKp_Q&feature=endscreen&NR=1
20:42 ibeardslee     righto
20:39 rangi          ill be there on monday morning, if russ needs a hand or anything get him to drop me an email
20:38 wahanui        jcamins_away: what?
20:38 jcamins_away   Wahanui has illustrated oleonard's point perfectly.
20:38 cait           heh
20:37 huginn         rangi: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011)
20:37 rangi          @quote get 123
20:37 wahanui        i think 123 is the authid. $9 is the subfield marker.
20:37 rangi          where 123 is
20:37 rangi          Koha presents all the same challenges that any web-based software might, with the added complexity of rule #123
20:37 ibeardslee     so much to do before I head off to LCA
20:36 rangi          ah yep
20:36 ibeardslee     session for Monday morning
20:36 ibeardslee     still got to catch up with russ about the how not to be a dick
20:35 rangi          lemme find it
20:35 rangi          ahhh oleonard had a good quote for koha
20:35 ibeardslee     currently writing up the 'sell the projects' slides
20:35 rangi          excellent, hes a good man
20:35 ibeardslee     grantp has a few things to work on
20:35 rangi          sweet
20:34 ibeardslee     looks like Kiritaki Koha is going to be the focus of the Android projects
20:33 ibeardslee     chugging along
20:31 rangi          ibeardslee: im picking you are busy, looks like the academy is going well though
20:27 wahanui        ...but cheese is delicious, but cait just had butter....
20:27 oleonard       wahanui: Cheese is delicious
20:20 cait           so no cheese
20:20 cait           no cheese in the fridge
20:20 jcamins_away   rangi: cheese is delicious, but cait just had butter.
20:20 wizzyrea       except for the gherkins that would have been very french
20:19 rangi          and cheese?
20:18 * cait         nods
20:16 jcamins_away   Fresh bread _is_ nice.
20:16 cait           hm and gherkins
20:15 cait           it was fresh bread
20:15 jcamins_away   cait: that's it?
20:15 cait           heh
20:15 cait           bread with butter
20:15 * jcamins_away is trying to decide what he'll be having.
20:15 jcamins_away   cait: what was for dinner?
20:08 rangi          http://photos.bigballofwax.co.nz/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=72912
20:08 rangi          course its not all cuteness and smiling
20:08 jcamins_away   Yes! It's a dinosaur sneaker!
20:07 rangi          http://photos.bigballofwax.co.nz/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=72711
20:06 rangi          jcamins_away: http://photos.bigballofwax.co.nz/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=72804
19:43 jcamins_away   They had this great display on static electricity...
19:43 rangi          i like all those science museum things :)
19:43 jcamins_away   schuster: yeah, I figured it out eventually.
19:42 schuster       sorry jcamins - my 5th grade son!
19:42 collum         When I did 'wunder' there was light rain outside.  Now it's snowing like crazy.  huginn is a genius
19:41 * jcamins_away has talked himself into a visit to the science museum.
19:41 jcamins_away   We went about once every two years and, I kid you not, I spent the entire two years in between thinking about when our next trip would be.
19:41 rangi          loved that
19:41 rangi          theyve been to the science museum in pittsburgh
19:40 jcamins_away   I *loved* that museum growing up.
19:40 jcamins_away   rangi: if you are ever in the New York area, you should take them to the Liberty Science Center, or Science Museum, or whatever it's called.
19:39 rangi          a fun museum
19:39 rangi          (they had that and a virtual kicking game and stuff too, as part of the khaki and black exhibition)
19:39 rangi          kahu can push 26.3 kg of pressure on the scrum machine
19:38 wizzyrea       hehe looks fun
19:38 rangi          http://www.armymuseum.co.nz/ <-- we stopped here on the way up
19:38 jcamins_away   schuster: that's very confusing... I just spent several seconds trying to remember when I had a chance to visit the WWII museum. ;)
19:38 rangi          hehe, his jared :)
19:37 * jcamins_away blinks.
19:37 schuster       Last summer in New Orleans Jared loved the WWII Museum
19:37 rangi          http://www.flickr.com/photos/ranginui/sets/72157628578802769/
19:36 rangi          its pretty cool
19:36 rangi          and a trench system
19:36 schuster       oh cool!
19:36 rangi          and morse code station
19:36 schuster       kahus++
19:36 rangi          jcamins_away: the army museum has a kids section, where they can get dressed up
19:36 schuster       We are about to go into what they call level 4 water restrictions - We are not far from limited amount of time in the show I suspect...
19:36 rangi          really really cheap digital (60$)
19:36 jcamins_away   rangi: I like the one of Atarau in the red jacket.
19:35 rangi          he got for christmas
19:35 rangi          oh there is a set from kahus camera
19:33 huginn         collum: The current temperature in Van Aachen, Erlanger, Kentucky is 2.3�C (2:32 PM EST on January 12, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 1.0�C. Windchill: -3.0�C. Pressure: 29.42 in 996.2 hPa (Rising).  Winter Weather Advisory in effect until noon EST Friday... 
19:33 collum         @wunder 41017
19:32 schuster       rangi - I suspect several of those pictures one of the boys borrowed the camera on...  They look like many I have seen on my camera!
19:31 rhcl           schuster: When I lived in San Antonio the level of the aquifer was a routine part of the daily weather forcast
19:30 schuster       Saw on the news 2 nights ago a lake and the lady was standing on the lake bed by the pole that should have marked the channel the boats stayed in to be clear...
19:30 rangi          http://www.flickr.com/photos/ranginui/6685798419/in/photostream/  <--kahu in his WWI trench
19:30 schuster       Ah man we could use the rain here...
19:30 jcamins_away   Weird weather.
19:29 huginn         jcamins_away: The current temperature in Middle Village, Queens, New York is 6.5�C (2:25 PM EST on January 12, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 5.0�C. Windchill: 4.0�C. Pressure: 29.45 in 997.2 hPa (Steady).  Coastal Flood Warning in effect until 3 PM EST this afternoon... 
19:29 jcamins_away   @wunder 11375
19:29 huginn         schuster: The current temperature in Independence and 15th. St., Plano, Texas is 2.6�C (1:29 PM CST on January 12, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 31%. Dew Point: -13.0�C. Windchill: -1.0�C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1023.9 hPa (Steady).
19:29 schuster       @wunder 75075
19:29 schuster       brrr...
19:29 huginn         cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 0.7�C (8:24 PM CET on January 12, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: -0.0�C. Windchill: 1.0�C. Pressure: 30.40 in 1029.3 hPa (Rising).
19:29 cait           @wunder Konstanz
19:21 wizzyrea       we should start peppering that bot with questions about apache virtual hosts
19:20 wizzyrea       :)
19:20 * gmcharlt     has installed Koha many times, not sure I find watching a Koha installation video all that compelling anymore ;)
19:20 jcamins_away   wizzyrea: so do I at the moment, but thanks to the wonders of screen, I don't lose all my scrollback. :P
19:20 jenn[ak]       bored? Come watch me on webcam @ http://bit.ly/zYE0pZ
19:19 rangi          :)
19:17 schuster       Glad you had a good time away and actually stayed away from the computer!
19:17 schuster       rangi - didn't mean to ignore you earlier just didn't see it until I read back!
19:16 rangi          i can tell :)
19:14 wizzyrea       he's got atrocious internet
19:13 rangi          or bip
19:13 rangi          remind me to introduce trea to screen
19:11 rangi          heh
19:10 gmcharlt       bah, that just ruins the joke I was going to make that if anybody was going to get individually targetted spam that includes the word "koha", it would be rangi
19:09 oleonard       No, you're right, I see it too.
19:09 rangi          but it might have just been to me
19:09 rangi          i thought i saw some on the koha list
19:08 oleonard       rangi: spam?
19:07 wizzyrea       i know :/ I wasn't able to figure out what he was doing
19:07 rangi          koha doesnt even use an .htaccess file
19:06 rangi          im not sure what scott kushner is doing, but whatever it is, its not right
19:06 rangi          still first one in ages
19:05 rangi          hmm how did that spam get through
18:58 rangi          yup
18:57 wizzyrea       but oldish
18:57 wizzyrea       the link in the reply is interesting.
18:44 rangi          http://serials.infomotions.com/code4lib/archive/2012/201201/0099.html
18:42 rangi          hmm
18:42 cait           heh
18:42 wizzyrea       and people wonder why we don't have better public transit - things are effin far apart!
18:41 cait           :)
18:41 wizzyrea       i know - scale here is so weird compared to many places in the world.
18:41 cait           a 2 hour drive in germany is quite long
18:41 cait           you know
18:40 wizzyrea       it's only a 2h drive :P
18:40 wizzyrea       I would have had to get angry with you if you came to manhattan and didn't visit lawrence too.
18:39 jcamins_away   NYC, not Kansas.
18:39 * jcamins_away waves from Manhattan.
18:38 cait           perhaps it's dead
18:33 wizzyrea       no clue - we don't have any in our db
18:33 cait           do you have an idea what goes into the alerts table?
18:32 cait           wizzyrea: I have a questoin for you too :)
18:31 huginn         wizzyrea: The current temperature in Lawrence Live-Courtesy of the Khoury's, Lawrence, Kansas is -7.1�C (12:30 PM CST on January 12, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: -13.0�C. Windchill: -11.0�C. Pressure: 30.03 in 1016.8 hPa (Steady).
18:30 wizzyrea       @wunder 66047
18:29 rangi          http://www.metservice.com/national/warnings/severe-weather-warnings
18:28 huginn         rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 16.0�C (7:00 AM NZDT on January 13, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 29.24 in 990 hPa (Steady).
18:28 rangi          @wunder nzwn
18:06 * oleonard     should be eating lunch
18:06 huginn         New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6681] When importing a biblio record via Z39.50, authority links also get imported <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6681>
18:06 rhcl           'k
18:05 * cait         should be making dinner
18:05 cait           perhaps.
18:05 cait           rhcl: I think it is a final solution but needs a new patch without update?
18:04 nengard        i think we need a patch still ?
18:04 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7153 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, savitra.sirohi, ASSIGNED , Show Open Library as Search Target in "More Searches" in OPAC detail page
18:03 rhcl           Was sekjal's last comment "Agreed.  Let's add the new option to new installs, and provide documentation on how to add it into existing installs." on 15 Dec a final solution to bug 7153?
17:57 wizzyrea       right
17:57 cait           wizzyrea: yes, and the module should determine the list you see...
17:57 * wizzyrea     will make a screencast
17:57 wizzyrea       but other than that, yea
17:57 wizzyrea       but you'd need 2 fields, the module dropdown and the code
17:56 wizzyrea       just like that, actually
17:56 wizzyrea       yea, choose a reason "others..."
17:56 wizzyrea       good call
17:56 wizzyrea       oo yea
17:56 cait           lke the one in suggestions?
17:56 cait           I think a list with an option would work
17:55 cait           not sure about how to make it work for the gui
17:55 wizzyrea       and humans get things wrong a lot
17:55 wizzyrea       but you're still leaving it up to the human
17:55 cait           I think we should certainly have documentation for it
17:55 wizzyrea       a list would certainly help
17:55 wizzyrea       well that's a documenation thingie
17:55 cait           overdues go in circulation - we have some hardcoded and some free codes there
17:55 cait           perhaps we need to have a list of modules... combined with the hardcoded codes
17:55 magnus_afk     gmcharlt: very cool!
17:54 wizzyrea       and which module it goes in
17:54 cait           I am not sure how a good display would look like here
17:54 wizzyrea       bc I still think it's confusing that you have to know the code
17:54 cait           hm
17:54 cait           ah
17:54 wizzyrea       something worth pursuing?
17:53 wizzyrea       include "Other" that lets you set the code name manually. "
17:53 wizzyrea       notices. That helps. A drop down still appeals to me - but it would have to
17:53 wizzyrea       sorry, i'm confusing myself... he doesn't talk about it... what do you think of "I didn't realize that you could specify a code for overdue
17:53 cait           the dosplay thing?
17:52 wizzyrea       7001 - see srdjan's last comment
17:52 gmcharlt       it was somebody who is planning to take Koha into an area with poor Internet service; just miscalulated when downloading what he needed for the trip
17:52 cait           sure
17:52 wizzyrea       cait, if you have a min
17:52 magnus_afk     gmcharlt: cool!
17:51 gmcharlt       magnus_afk: as it turns out, my optimism was justified
17:51 * wizzyrea     looks up takeaway places in Konstanz
17:50 cait           so now where is this dinner you were talking about?
17:50 cait           back :)
17:38 rangi          rhcl: there are a bunch of enh requests in progress for koha + openlibrary
17:38 wizzyrea       aw bummer.
17:38 rangi          george has left there now tho, and she was my contact
17:38 rhcl           we're thinking about participating
17:38 rangi          openlibrary is cool
17:38 rangi          nope not me
17:37 rhcl           by chance have you ever been rangi?
17:37 rhcl           http://librarianinblack.net/librarianinblack/2011/07/open-library-offers-libraries-a-third-choice-for-ebooks.html
17:37 rhcl           "visit the headquarters for a stunning tour that included the �hands-down-most-awesome server room ever� and the most efficient book scanning workflow I�ve ever seen."
17:37 rhcl           I wanna take a tour:
17:36 rangi          i think its also developers signing off on other developers (outside their organisation) that we need to get going too, lots of things need people to look at the actual code too
17:36 * jcamins      heads to a client's.
17:36 huginn         New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6838] Filtering and pagination in subscriptions table <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6838>
17:36 rangi          yep that would be good
17:36 paul_p         this time, I really leave !
17:36 paul_p         librarians won't have any excuse not to signoff ;-)
17:35 paul_p         I hope my sandbox system will help. You'll be able to get a working Koha in a few minuts, with a sample database, the patch you want having being applied. Thus just entering the bugnumber, your email address & the sample database you want, that's all.
17:35 rhcl           ping bag
17:33 rangi          not sure how to get them to do it though
17:33 rangi          we need people signing off on others more
17:33 wizzyrea       nice!
17:33 paul_p         breaking news = i think i'll put my sandbox system on a 1st sandbox soon...
17:33 rangi          theres a bunch of @catalyst plus some of my own that I obviously cant sign off
17:33 paul_p         yep, and it includes a few large ones !
17:32 rangi          it was 50 when i went on holiday!
17:32 rangi          and we are up to 67 needs signoff
17:32 paul_p         good day american ppl & good night for europe, good early morning for aussies/kiwis !
17:32 paul_p         a short meeting to start my day, then pushing all the day -I hope !-
17:31 paul_p         time to leave for me. tomorrow will be a "patch pushed" day ! (i've 16 patches "passed QA" ...)
17:30 schuster       ok thanks good to know...
17:29 fredericd      hi
17:29 rangi          hi fredericd
17:27 wizzyrea       lol
17:27 oleonard       No :P
17:27 wizzyrea       oh, kf is still here?
17:27 kf             so now really leaving :)
17:27 wizzyrea       the last time I tested that, it worked as described
17:27 rangi          :)
17:27 rangi          if end , or if else end .. not if end else
17:27 kf             it's there but not using it
17:27 schuster       Is it working as described?
17:27 jcamins        That's what I thought, thanks.
17:27 schuster       Another question - dealing with in processing and shelving cart.  Anyone using that feature with 3.x?
17:27 rangi          the END is
17:26 rangi          nope
17:26 jcamins        Anyway, is the [% ELSE %] related to the stopwords_removed?
17:26 jcamins        Bleh.
17:26 jcamins        on words: "[% stopwords_removed %]"<p></div>[% END %] [% ELSE %]
17:26 jcamins        Question about this construct: [% IF ( stopwords_removed ) %]<div><p class="tip">Ignored the following comm
17:26 wizzyrea       that's my bad, you can ignore that
17:26 huginn         New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5297] emailLibrarianWhenHoldIsPlaced does nothing <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5297>
17:26 wizzyrea       there aren't any bugs open that indicate otherwise
17:25 wizzyrea       idk, i haven't checked yet ^.^ but it looks like with proper configuration it should work
17:25 schuster       so it does work in your test system?  I'm going through the system settings one by one to see the "new to me" features and revisiting the ones we set 3 years + ago.
17:25 * magnuse      wanders off to make dinner
17:25 wizzyrea       do note removing that will require the tests to be changed
17:25 rangi          yup
17:24 jcamins        The stopwords table is unnecessary now, isn't it?
17:24 wizzyrea       the documentation needed to be updated on how to use it
17:24 wizzyrea       or rather
17:23 wizzyrea       I think we killed a kitten.
17:23 schuster       notification of things their kids are putting on hold maybe need to buy a second copy - force them to look at the que if they get a bunch o femails.
17:23 wizzyrea       looks like there is a patch for 3.2.x
17:23 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5297 minor, P5 - low, ---, nengard, NEW , emailLibrarianWhenHoldIsPlaced does nothing
17:23 wizzyrea       bug 5297
17:23 magnuse        bye kf
17:22 kf             bye all :)
17:22 kf             time to leave
17:22 schuster       School librarians some are allowing their students to place holds so I want to explore if it works before giving them the option on or off.
17:22 kf             :)
17:22 wizzyrea       (also, why would you not use the hold queue for similar functionality)
17:22 jcamins        Does anyone want credit for a lot of line deletions? Removing NoZebra will involve removing more than 2k lines.
17:21 schuster       you know me 3.2!
17:21 wizzyrea       when did it not work?
17:21 wizzyrea       we don't use that, but I can test it
17:21 wizzyrea       I love those!
17:21 schuster       does the email librarian when hold placed now work?
17:21 wizzyrea       oh goodie!
17:21 schuster       holds question :)
17:20 wizzyrea       i am
17:20 schuster       wizzyrea here?
17:18 rangi          hi schuster
17:18 magnuse        and no messing with spamhaus this time, either
17:16 rangi          magnuse: yep, that would be my choice too, i quite like postfix
17:15 magnuse        "sudo apt-get install postfix" - that wasn't too hard...
17:14 magnuse        yes please ;-)
17:13 liw            magnuse, also, docs should be on the wiki ;)
17:13 * magnuse      should keep better notes
17:10 magnuse        ah
17:10 rangi          i think it was on the mailing list
17:09 rangi          yep
17:09 magnuse        hm, is there some documentation about setting up a koha server as a mail server or similar? i have a feeling i have followed one before, but can't find it now...
17:08 wizzyrea       it is isn't it?
17:08 liw            wizzyrea, the concept is mind bogglingly weird
17:08 liw            rangi, no worries :)
17:08 wizzyrea       I just can't
17:08 wizzyrea       i can't bring myself to give rangi negative karma
17:07 rangi          ill try to get it all fixed up
17:07 huginn         rangi: Error: You're not allowed to adjust your own karma.
17:07 rangi          rangi--
17:07 liw            rangi, no worries :)
17:07 rangi          then went on vacation
17:07 rangi          and liw yes i broke the obnam ppa
17:07 magnuse        ah, or rangi... ;-)
17:07 rangi          also, now that can build language packs too
17:06 rangi          slef: would mean wholescale restructuring of the git repo is the main bit
17:06 * liw          recommends eythian :)
17:05 magnuse        slef: i have no clue whatsoever - yu need to ask liw or eythian that i think
17:04 slef           magnuse: I'm almost certainly going to regret asking this, but why not use gitpkg?
17:04 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5533 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, srdjan, ASSIGNED , marking item lost diff in two places
17:04 magnuse        maximep: see also bug 5533
17:04 maximep        wizzyrea: thanks the the explaination!
17:04 jcamins        [off] I'm happy that they have a band, but do they really have to send an announcement about that fact to my *personal* e-mail address?
17:04 kf             [off] now you made me curious...
17:03 wizzyrea       so we'll probably be changing the way it works
17:03 oleonard       [off] Oh, do tell
17:03 jcamins        [off] Why am I getting spammed by PTFS?
17:03 wizzyrea       but that dev has been problematic
17:03 wizzyrea       the solution was to either hide or make unavailable from edit item the lost status
17:03 wizzyrea       is that marking lost from the 2 places behaved differently
17:02 wizzyrea       the reason it is that way
17:02 wizzyrea       yep, it's been a problem
17:02 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7089 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , lost status on add item
17:02 maximep        ah i think that's what bug 7089 is about
17:02 maximep        hmmm maybe a text to explain that would be good hehe
17:01 wizzyrea       yes
17:01 wizzyrea       you're supposed to do it from the detail
17:01 maximep        but you can on add ?
17:01 wizzyrea       because you're not supposed to edit that there
17:01 wizzyrea       yep
17:01 maximep        When I edit an item there's no way to edit the field 1- lost status ? Is that normal ?
17:01 wizzyrea       and could do it in their sleep
17:01 wizzyrea       those objectors probably know how to configure zebra
17:00 slef           sure... just pointing out why "Use the Packages" will have some staunch objectors
17:00 magnuse        even i can do it ;-)
17:00 magnuse        http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Building_Debian_Packages_-_The_Easy_Way
17:00 wizzyrea       if someone wanted to make them.
17:00 wizzyrea       i'm sure we would welcome packages for other distros
16:59 rangi          2. theres a script to build your own packages from git
16:59 rangi          1. is true
16:59 slef           which means 1. they need to be on debian or ubuntu; and 2. they're not customising the code much.
16:57 wizzyrea       *Use the Packages! No really! Zebra config is so much easier! We swear!*
16:55 kf             that they really have to configure zebra now
16:55 jcamins        kf: right. That's the part I don't know how to do.
16:55 kf             we probably need a big warning then for updating libraires?
16:55 kf             hm
16:55 magnuse        http://manual.koha-community.org/3.8/en/nozebradefault.html
16:55 magnuse        the manual needs an update too
16:55 jcamins        I don't know how to do the upgrade bit, but I'd take a blowtorch to the code.
16:54 magnuse        dang ;-)
16:53 rangi          and nope, i wont be doing it
16:53 rangi          its just the upgrade, then code purge to do
16:53 rangi          we did that for 3.4.0
16:53 rangi          there is no mention of it when installing
16:53 rangi          so part one is done
16:53 magnuse        sounds like rangi is half way to a patch already ;-)
16:52 jcamins        :D
16:52 magnuse        hehe
16:52 jcamins        Newsflash! Legitimate use for <blink/> tag found!
16:52 rangi          they get a big warning, this wont work, configure zebra
16:51 rangi          if they have nozebra on
16:51 rangi          magnuse: what needs to be done is check the installer make sure no mention of it, then rip out code, then make sure when someone upgrades
16:51 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7440 major, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Vestiges of NoZebra should be removed
16:51 jcamins        Bug 7440.
16:50 kf             nice try, but nobody is going to make that dinner for me... so.
16:50 jcamins        Yes.
16:50 kf             trying to send me home again?
16:50 kf             lol
16:49 wahanui        I know. That's why I said it.
16:49 jcamins        wahanui: very true.
16:49 wahanui        dinner is, like, a good idea
16:49 kf             dinner?
16:47 magnuse        any volunteers for a patch to rip out the code and the syspref etc?
16:46 rangi          :)
16:46 jcamins        Number one.
16:46 rangi          there was a meeting about it and everything
16:46 jcamins        Ah, riht you are.
16:45 rangi          * NoZebra mode is officially deprecated.
16:45 rangi          check under searching
16:45 rangi          http://koha-community.org/koha-3-4-0-released/
16:45 rangi          see
16:45 jcamins        oleonard++ # that's what I call taking the torch and running with it
16:44 oleonard       You've certainly gotten everyone fired up
16:44 * jcamins      wasn't actually expecting that. The goal was just to spark discussion.
16:43 magnuse        lol
16:43 jcamins        :)
16:42 oleonard       s/patches/matches
16:42 tcohen         :-D
16:42 magnuse        woohoo
16:41 jcamins        Wow!
16:41 jcamins        So... we might actually be able to use my patches...
16:41 jcamins        http://xkcd.com/429/
16:40 * oleonard     imagines that he himself has been carrying around a nozebra all his life, and would have to give it up if someone gave him a zebra.
16:40 jcamins        Fire! Fire! Cleanse the codebase!
16:40 * magnuse      fetches wood for the pyre
16:40 * oleonard     gathers torches
16:39 jcamins        Yes!
16:39 rangi          we just did it softly, but would be nice to kill it with fire now
16:39 jcamins        Happy dance happy dance happy dance!
16:39 * jcamins      does a happy dance.
16:39 jcamins        Woohoo!
16:39 rangi          has been for a while
16:39 jcamins        I could just take it out?
16:39 rangi          yep
16:39 jcamins        Really?
16:39 rangi          oh i meant to mention, nozebra is deprecated and should be removed
16:38 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7430 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, NEW , ModZebra should not be in C4::Biblio
16:38 jcamins        If you're not ready to go back to work and want an excuse for taking a mental health day, bug 7430 is a good one. ;)
16:35 rangi          thank you
16:35 jcamins        rangi: ah, welcome back.
16:34 rangi          got back yesterday
16:33 jcamins        rangi: aren't you on vacation?
16:32 jcamins        I wasn't actually that troubled.
16:32 jcamins        rangi++
16:32 jcamins        Thanks!
16:32 jcamins        rangi: awesome!
16:32 rangi          jcamins: updated my stats blogpost for you
16:31 jcamins        I think it was!
16:31 wizzyrea       is that a bell?
16:31 jcamins        cait's...
16:31 wahanui        dinner is probably a good idea.
16:31 jcamins        dinner...
16:31 jcamins        It sounds like...
16:31 jcamins        wizzyrea: do you hear what I hear?
16:20 wizzyrea       :D
16:19 kf             mib_kus6x7: and your triggers are correctly set under toold > notice triggers?
16:18 kf             magnuse: cool :)
16:18 reiveune       bye
16:16 jcamins        mib_kus6x7: hm. I was wondering if maybe you had two entries, one in cron.daily and one in the user's crontab, but that seems kind of unlikely.
16:16 jcamins        wizzyrea: Shari adores her new Asus Transformer.
16:12 magnuse        jcamins_away, kf: found it: misc/maintenance/borrowers-force-messaging-defaults
16:12 mib_kus6x7     downloaded the source
16:12 mib_kus6x7     I upgraded it from 3.4
16:09 mib_kus6x7     Just the standard overdues script with -t
16:08 kf             mib_kus6x7: and how are you using overdues? the parameters of your cronjob?
16:08 jcamins_away   mib_kus6x7: how did you install it?
16:08 mib_kus6x7     3.06.00
16:08 mib_kus6x7     No! Good thought though.
16:08 kf             mib_kus6x7: which version are you using?
16:07 wizzyrea       (I wasn't proud, mind you)
16:07 * wizzyrea     has done that
16:07 wizzyrea       you don't happen to have a test server hanging out with cronjobs enabled
16:07 mib_kus6x7     Our site is emailing every user 4 times with the same overdue at the same time
16:06 jcamins_away   magnuse: there's a script to reset messaging to defaults.
16:06 mib_kus6x7     I can't make out the bug. The description fits but when you read the rest of it it doesn't really mention multiple emails..
16:05 slef           mib_kus6x7: do you think that bug does or doesn't apply to you?
16:05 slef           it would be funnier if I'd replaced the right word
16:05 * wizzyrea     giggles
16:04 slef           [off] wizzyrea: I'm looking at the pipe-lagging hanging attached my legs and don't know what you mean.
16:04 mib_kus6x7     but I am not sure...
16:04 huginn         04Bug 7287: normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, sophie.meynieux, ASSIGNED , overdue notification is processed several times if some sites do not have rules
16:04 wizzyrea       "lag on my mobile dongle" sounds surprisingly naughty
16:04 mib_kus6x7     I found this: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7287
16:03 mib_kus6x7     Evening.....any ideas why all users email overdues might go out multiple times!?
16:03 slef           oleonard: can't be much worse than the lag on my mobile dongle in the fens!
16:03 magnuse        slef: sure
16:03 wizzyrea       *nod*
16:03 slef           magnuse: make it dependent on a new PatronCategoryChangesBuggerSomeLaws syspref?
16:03 * oleonard     suspects the IRC lag is terrible from there
16:03 wizzyrea       you know, for the 36 hour days
16:03 wizzyrea       :)
16:03 * wizzyrea     sends slef a rocket and a ticket to jupiter
16:02 magnuse        slef: i will when i find them
16:02 slef           damn it... I've a git tree with it somewhere :(  Please send some 36-hour days.
16:02 magnuse        well, in this case it's a school - they could probably get away with it
16:02 slef           oh don't we have patron bulk-editing in master yet?
16:02 slef           else yes, I can see that feature breaking our privacy law in some cases :-/
16:01 magnuse        bulk edit patrons?
16:01 slef           magnuse: can't people bulk-edit if they want to override current ones?
16:01 magnuse        hm, would a link from a patrons category on their details page (members/moremember.pl?borrowernumber=823) to the edit screen for that category (admin/categorie.pl?op=add_form&categorycode=ST) be a good thing? make it easier to check settings for the category?
16:00 kf             lol
16:00 kf             I will be so happy once I have written up all those documents
16:00 gmcharlt       ContactInfoOfLibraryAttorney
16:00 * gmcharlt     can see the system preference now
16:00 kf             yes, that too
16:00 gmcharlt       and the legal jurisdiction
15:59 kf             probably dpeends on what you have written down for them to sign at registration
15:59 kf             I am not sure ... only dealing a lot with data privavy
15:59 gmcharlt       slef: no specific address was provided, so I went with abuse@
15:59 wizzyrea       it would be legal here - companies do it all the time, it's irritating
15:58 magnuse        i'll leave that decision to the library in question
15:58 kf             again
15:58 kf             to opt them in
15:58 kf             I think it would not be legal really... if they have opted out
15:54 wizzyrea       :P
15:54 wizzyrea       somewhat is not the adjective I would use
15:54 magnuse        somewhat, yes ;-)
15:54 wizzyrea       which I think is very unfriendly
15:54 wizzyrea       "it's for library business and they can change it back"
15:53 wizzyrea       they went back and clobbered whatever the patrons had set
15:53 wizzyrea       but the others here
15:53 wizzyrea       well, not me, because I consider it spamming.
15:53 magnuse        kf: that's probably the same thing that happend here
15:53 wizzyrea       though, if you are like us
15:52 kf             because I forgot to set the settings before importing patrons... more than once
15:52 kf             and I have some sql if you want it
15:52 gmcharlt       IIRC, yes
15:52 kf             in misc
15:52 kf             I think there might be a script
15:52 magnuse        yeah, guess you are right
15:52 kf             jinx? :)
15:52 oleonard       magnuse: Wouldn't globally changing the preferences reset prefs which patrons had set for themselves?
15:51 kf             magnuse: only new patrons - and it's ok I think. Because you would overwrite the settings someone has requested
15:51 magnuse        gah, that seems somewhat impractical...
15:50 slef           gmcharlt: whois -h whois.abuse.net the-offending-institution ?
15:50 * wizzyrea     sighs.
15:50 Guest23632     only new patrons
15:50 oleonard       Isn't there a note about that?
15:50 oleonard       Just new patrons if I recall correctly
15:49 magnuse        hm, should changes to "Default messaging preferences" for a patron category apply to existing patrons too, or do they just affect new patrons? EnhancedMessagingPreferences = enabled
15:39 gmcharlt       :)
15:38 magnuse        gmcharlt++ for being an optimist too ;-)
15:37 magnuse        gmcharlt++ for fixing
15:36 magnuse        \o
15:35 * gmcharlt     has sent an email to abuse@the-offending-institution; it's possible that it was a legitimate, though misguided, crawl
15:30 libsysguy      o/
15:22 oleonard       Works fine for me now
15:22 gmcharlt       paul_p: oleonard: try now
15:22 huginn         gmcharlt: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7342 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, alex.arnaud, ASSIGNED , aqbudgets statistics doesn't work when using Authorized values on sort1_authcat or sort2_authcat
15:22 gmcharlt       @bug 7342
15:21 gmcharlt       slef: yep, about to do that, just giving a heads up if somebody channel is doing this legitamately (but too eagerly)
15:20 slef           but I'm sure you know that (or the typo-free version of it)
15:20 slef           iptables -I INPUT -p tcp -s IPADDRESS --dport 80 -j REJECT
15:20 oleonard       The person who edited our Wikipedia entry yesterday is probably hoping to add a list of all bugs to it :P
15:19 gmcharlt       if somebody in-channel is using a host in Belgium to crawl bugs.koha-community.org using wget, please stop, pretty-please
15:18 gmcharlt       looks like a DOS or misconfigured crawler, working on it
15:15 huginn         gmcharlt: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7342 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, alex.arnaud, ASSIGNED , aqbudgets statistics doesn't work when using Authorized values on sort1_authcat or sort2_authcat
15:15 gmcharlt       @bug 7342
15:15 paul_p         ok, seems it's back, but it's *very* slow
15:14 paul_p         ah, it's back !
15:14 huginn         gmcharlt: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
15:14 gmcharlt       @bug 7342
15:14 * gmcharlt     checks again
15:13 paul_p         and I just was needing the 7342 *now* ... murphy's law, as usual...
15:13 oleonard       Nor here
15:12 paul_p         seems bugzilla still not reachable from here...
15:10 kf             biblibre++
15:10 jcamins_away   Hm. Wonder if mine will be...
15:09 gmcharlt       slef: you're welcome
15:09 kf             jcamins_away: yep, our meetings were well attended
15:09 slef           gmcharlt: thank you sweetie!
15:09 huginn         gmcharlt: The operation succeeded.  Quote #180 added.
15:09 gmcharlt       @quote add <magnuse> gmcharlt brought the bugs back, oh well...
15:08 jcamins_away   kf, did people show up?
15:08 magnuse        :-)
15:07 magnuse        gmcharlt brought the bugs back, oh well...
15:07 jcamins_away   Argh!
15:07 kf             lots of meetings
15:07 kf             long day
15:07 kf             perhaps I did
15:07 gmcharlt       wait, that doesn't sound quite right
15:07 gmcharlt       slef: we have bugs again
15:06 paul_p         kf, you missed the joke I think ;-) (jcamins didn't)
15:06 mcmx_          ok now ive fixed that error but now i see " Date::Calc::Add_Delta_Days(): not a valid date", any ideas?
15:06 jcamins_away   kf, but I want all bugs fixed immediately too!
15:05 jcamins_away   I am here, but my 10am isn't.
15:05 kf             paul_p: can I veto? ;)
15:04 jcamins_away   wb, paul_p
15:03 paul_p         kf,  no, no: slef really suggested to reset all the bugs, not only bugzilla. We are all for it :D :D
15:02 * gmcharlt     checks
15:02 gmcharlt       slef: yes, I can
15:02 mcmx_          hi all, im struggling to set up Koha with Active Directory, i've configured my koha-conf however im getting  "LDAP Auth rejected" when i try and log in with a valid user. Any help would be great. Thanks
15:02 kf             they still remain, only undocumented
15:02 slef           deliberate misparse there I think
15:01 kf             nah not sure
15:01 magnuse        hehe
15:01 paul_p         slef, reset bugs ? VERY GOOD idea ! starting a new year with all bugs resetted will please many of us :D :D :D
15:00 slef           gmcharlt: can you reach/reset bugs?
14:57 paul_p         bz down for us in France too
14:55 magnuse        could be a long distance keg
14:55 magnuse        well, you can always suggest it...
14:54 oleonard       Oh, so I can't suggest that someone at ByWater's staff retreat set a beer keg on the Bugzilla server
14:53 magnuse        according to http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Website_Administration#bugs.koha-community.org
14:53 magnuse        rangi
14:52 oleonard       Is that ByWater or rangi?
14:51 oleonard       it is for me too magnuse
14:50 magnuse        *down
14:50 magnuse        bz doen?
14:45 kf             jcamins_away: the bee pic :)
14:45 kf             jcamins_away: yeah - it's great
14:43 huginn         New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7439] Mailmap for 3.6.x not complete <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7439>
14:39 slef           magnuse: no I missed that :( I'll look.
14:39 huginn         jcamins_away: The operation succeeded.
14:39 jcamins_away   @later tell rangi I love Atarau's expression in the bee picture.
14:38 magnuse        slef: did you see someone asking about koha in the uk on twitter yesterday? had the #koha hashtag
14:37 jcamins_away   Back in a bit.
14:37 * jcamins_away dashes off to his meeting.
14:36 * oleonard     sees
14:36 oleonard       What is a mailmap patch?
14:35 jcamins        mailmap patch submitted.
14:32 magnuse        poos jcamins ;-)
14:32 jcamins        Ugh. I have a meeting in 28 minutes.
14:32 magnuse        there might be an extension
14:32 magnuse        hehe
14:32 magnuse        but mediawiki filters out the usual suspects (iframe etc), i think, which is probably a good thing
14:32 slef           I don't know if mediawiki can. It should but mediawiki doesn't do lots of tings I think it should. ;-)
14:31 magnuse        yeah, very handy
14:31 * jcamins      either, but it'd be cool.
14:31 magnuse        and i think the text should be in the wiki, for search engines etc
14:31 magnuse        i don't know a way to embed them
14:31 magnuse        it can be automated with a script...
14:31 jcamins        Embedding++
14:31 slef           Yes, and I think copy-pasting them to the wiki is a waste of scarce volunteer time.
14:31 magnuse        to avoid remembering to copy over when there are changes?
14:30 slef           I think there should be wiki links which redirect to or embed the git pages.
14:30 magnuse        slef: i took it you were opposed to having them on the wiki at all - might have misread you
14:29 magnuse        git is the place for it, but i was trying to think of ways to help more people discover them
14:29 slef           magnuse: the wiki changelog comment... thought you had split my amendment into its own proposal.
14:29 magnuse        not even sure where you got that idea... ;-)
14:29 magnuse        slef: not at all!
14:28 * jcamins      was trying to figure out what the 'S' stood for in "Registered S Nurse" for a bit there.
14:28 slef           magnuse: I take it you oppose keeping git as the home of installation instructions?
14:28 slef           ta magnuse... I'll look at your RFC change RSN
14:27 magnuse        http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=.mailmap;h=b186da0047a91d58dfaa6227e788b8c32e69b5e2;hb=3.6.x
14:27 jcamins        Yep. I'm just forgetful.
14:26 magnuse        http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.com/Adding-mailmap-file-to-3-6-x-td5047659.html
14:26 jcamins        Oh, that's right... I need to send a mailmap patch for chris_n.
14:25 magnuse        jcamins: rangi does that in some kind of mailmap file when he does the stats, i think
14:24 * jcamins      will have to find out from rangi how to get C & P listed as an employer.
14:22 magnuse        slef++ for troubleshooting!
14:22 jcamins        I hope the weather in Konstanz is nicer than the weather in Forest Hills.
14:21 jcamins        Good morning, kf.
14:19 kf             hi jcamins :)
14:17 * jcamins      hums 76 trombones.
14:15 jcamins        Ooh, I didn't realize there was a "Patch pushed" query.
14:13 oleonard       Hi jcamins
14:13 jcamins        Good morning, #koha
14:05 wahanui        thanks kf :)
14:05 kf             wahanui botsnack cookie
14:05 kf             :)
14:05 oleonard       Say it with confidence wahanui
14:04 wahanui        i guess mailing list is at http://koha-community.org/support/koha-mailing-lists/
14:04 oleonard       mailing list?
14:01 kf             mcmx_: I would recommend again to ask your question on the mailing list and give the version of your installation and what you did so far
13:59 gmcharlt       heh
13:58 huginn         gmcharlt: Quote #148: "<oleonard> sekjal wants EVERYTHING in a matrix! <sekjal> I'm like the Anti-Neo" (added by wizzyrea at 05:11 PM, August 25, 2011)
13:58 gmcharlt       @quote random
13:52 mcmx_          Hi all, im struggling to set up Koha with Active Directory, i've configured my koha-conf however im getting  "LDAP Auth rejected" when i try and log in with a valid user. Any help would be great. Thanks
13:52 tcohen         sunny day here listening to Sublime
13:52 tcohen         hi #koha
13:51 kf             hope I can figure it out tomorrow
13:51 kf             I got another mail asking about my css problem :(
13:51 kf             but cool that it worked
13:46 oleonard       Yeah, I'll say
13:45 kf             that is a lot!
13:45 kf             oh wow
13:45 oleonard       It took the query from 28.57 sec to 1.48 sec
13:45 oleonard       Yesterday you suggested I use BETWEEN in my query instead of MONTH() and YEAR() and you were absolutely right
13:44 kf             here :)
13:42 oleonard       kf around?
13:36 slef           np. Good luck!
13:36 Culiforge      it appears I have it fixed though.. now to continue on with koha install.. um.. after I go to work that is.. thx for the help you got me back on track
13:34 Culiforge      yeah, I don't remember what I was trying to install that required the sid repo... but if it breaks I should learn to live without it until i'm more handy with linux
13:33 slef           Culiforge: sounds like your system is a mashup of ubuntu lucid and debian sid :-/
13:33 slef           oleonard: I don't understand. :(
13:30 * oleonard     wonders why Koha must be "KOHA" in Poland... http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Koha_(software)&diff=470955800&oldid=prev
13:24 Culiforge      gotta go to work in about 10 min but I'll be back later.
13:23 Culiforge      slef: ok, so I went into synaptic and forced vesion of prev libmysqlclient16... apparently something was installed requiring kde libraries and such... so i'm tracing back version dependencies atm...
13:21 slef           back
13:05 Culiforge      back
12:57 Culiforge      synaptic is showing 5.1.58 is what I have now... there is a 5.1.41-3ubuntu12.10 (lucid-updates) that i assume it replaced
12:53 slef           lunchtime here... back in 20
12:53 slef           no time or similar? tells you when it was replaced. Have you tried the apt-get install = command above?
12:52 Culiforge      I have this entry in history.log... does'nt tell much libmysqlclient16 (5.1.41-3ubuntu12.10, 5.1.58-1)
12:49 Culiforge      ok, lemme poke around a bit
12:43 slef           whereever you wrote them... or maybe ubuntu installs something that keeps /var/log/apt* but I don't know ubuntu well. (I prefer .org to .com)
12:40 Culiforge      if I had logs, where might they be?
12:39 Culiforge      ok, I see it.. it was installed from debian sid.... that entry is commented out now.
12:39 slef           I don't suppose you keep any logs or notes which might say where/when/why that was installed?
12:38 slef           somehow you've installed a libmysqlclient16 version which doesn't exist in ubuntu
12:38 slef           I guess you could try "sudo apt-get install libmysqlclient16=5.1.41-3ubuntu12.10" and see if that gets you moving again
12:37 slef           unlikely unless you've debian.org lines in /etc/apt
12:37 Culiforge      or the dselect thing
12:36 Culiforge      unless it was part of ubuntu.packages that I intalled...
12:36 * slef         checks that again
12:35 Culiforge      not that i'm aware of... I was following the tutorial magnus provided that I link a little back
12:35 slef           ok, next question, do you remember downloading libmysqlclient16 from debian?
12:35 Culiforge      atm
12:34 Culiforge      i use handbrake because it's simple to convert my vid collection to .mkv for my htpc.. and i'm green on linux so I go the easiest route
12:33 Culiforge      http://paste.ubuntu.com/801686/
12:32 slef           curious. Why's that better than ffmpeg?
12:32 slef           HandBrake is a software application that can convert MPEG video (including DVD-Video) into a MPEG-4 video file in .mp4, .avi, .ogm, or .mkv containers. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HandBrake
12:32 slef           "dpkg -s libmysqlclient16" into a pastebin may help
12:31 Culiforge      I think that was for handbrake..
12:30 Culiforge      hmm, i've got some dapper in sources.list
12:29 slef           5.1.58 looks like oneric or precise
12:29 slef           do you have non-lucid lines in your /etc/apt/sources.list or /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ ?
12:28 slef           5.1.41-3ubuntu12.* should be the latest on lucid. Are you sure you're on 10.04? What does /etc/ubuntu_version (I think) say?
12:28 Culiforge      I should start pastebin-ing...
12:28 Culiforge      The following packages have unmet dependencies: libgcrypt11-dev: Depends: libgpg-error-dev but it is not going to be installed libmysqlclient-dev: Depends: libmysqlclient16 (= 5.1.41-3ubuntu12.10) but 5.1.58-1 is to be installed Depends: zlib1g-dev but it is not going to be installed libyaz3-dev: Depends: libxslt1-dev but it is not going to be installed Depends: libgnutls-dev but it is not going to be installed E: Broken packages
12:27 slef           checking http://packages.ubuntu.com/libmysqlclient16
12:26 Culiforge      just did, same output
12:26 Culiforge      ya know. I don't remember.. one sec
12:25 slef           Culiforge: have you done "apt-get update" recently?
12:25 slef           I wonder why it won't just install zlib1g-dev and why it can't find compatible libmysqlclient versions.
12:23 wahanui        somebody said confusing was "Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
12:23 slef           confusing
12:23 Culiforge      ok, i'll run that... right?
12:23 Culiforge      E: Broken packages
12:23 Culiforge      Depends: zlib1g-dev but it is not going to be installed
12:23 Culiforge      libmysqlclient-dev: Depends: libmysqlclient16 (= 5.1.41-3ubuntu12.10) but 5.1.58-1 is to be installed
12:23 Culiforge      The following packages have unmet dependencies:
12:23 slef           I'm pretty sure "apt-get install libmysqlclient-dev libyaz-dev libgcrypt-dev" will be OK if they exist.
12:22 slef           so that's what the INSTALL is written for. Wonder why those packages are not found :-/
12:20 Culiforge      10.04
12:20 Culiforge      then started searching out dependency issues. first step, I ran sudo apt-get install libmysqlclient16-dev
12:20 slef           hrm. What ubuntu version is that?
12:19 Culiforge      libxslt1-dev = (none)
12:19 Culiforge      libxml2-dev = (none)
12:19 Culiforge      libgcrypt11-dev = (none)
12:19 Culiforge      libyaz3-dev = (none)
12:19 Culiforge      libmysqlclient16-dev = (none)
12:19 Culiforge      line 86 install_misc/ubuntu-pkg-check.sh | grep none
12:18 Culiforge      slef: ok, from http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=INSTALL.ubuntu.lucid;h=562dafd01c305c79fb19fbc701c338b5ed0eac3c;hb=HEAD
12:17 Culiforge      sorry, went afk to let the dogs out.. i'm back now... looking back for your answer
12:16 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7428 minor, P5 - low, ---, robin, NEW , koha-create should check for length of instancename
12:16 slef           updated bug 7428 because a client just hit it
12:06 slef           Culiforge: if you "aptitude install libmysql16-dev" it should get whatever dependencies it needs. What installation command were you running?
12:04 slef           Culiforge: give me a mo to look at recent messages here so I can see what the problem is?
12:04 huginn         slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4875 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, NEW , koha-remove, koha-restore should have options similar to --request-db
12:04 huginn         slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6798 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, magnus, NEW , Make koha-create send email with details of created site
12:03 huginn         slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6797 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, magnus, NEW , Make koha-create more verbose
12:03 huginn         slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4226 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , bulkmarcimport.pl doesn't replace 001 when keepids is not specified
12:03 huginn         slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6913 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, NEW , Improving koha-list and koha-create
12:03 slef           @query koha-create
12:02 Culiforge      of course i may not be looking at the right solution...
12:02 Culiforge      can anyone else assist me with the difference between 1:1.2.3.3.dfsg-15ubuntu1 and  1:1.2.3.4.dfsg-3?
11:55 magnuse        sorry, gotta run
11:52 Culiforge      I did the grep command for libmysql16-dev and it started kicking back dependency issues at that point
11:51 Culiforge      pretty sure dselect already installed mysql
11:51 magnuse        could it be that you have it and the check is looking for an older version?
11:51 magnuse        mysql shouldn't be too hard to get running, though
11:51 Culiforge      hehe
11:50 magnuse        for me too...
11:50 Culiforge      sorry, this is greek
11:50 Culiforge      Depends: zlib1g (=1:1.2.3.3.dfsg-15ubuntu1) but 1:1.2.3.4.dfsg-3 is to be installed
11:50 Culiforge      hmm, tracing back dependencies I get=> zlib1g-dev:
11:49 magnuse        hm, not sure about the specifics there
11:43 Culiforge      grep did not return any info on libmsql...16
11:42 Culiforge      yes, saw that. so it tells me libmysqlclient16-dev depends on libmysqlclient-dev so I need to install the latter then the foremer?
11:39 magnuse        but note the bit about newer packages maybe getting installed, just below that command in the INSTALL file
11:39 magnuse        yep
11:38 Culiforge      magnuse: during the install when I run 'install_misc/ubuntu-pkg-check.sh | grep none', those results are what I need to manually install correct?
11:03 Culiforge      magnuse: right, thank you, I'm checking it out now
10:50 magnuse        there are also PPAs for ubuntu here: https://launchpad.net/~koha
10:49 magnuse        there is one called INSTALL.ubuntu.lucid
10:48 magnuse        Culiforge: the official and quality controlled install instructions are in the INSTALL.* files that come with Koha. see http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=tree;hb=HEAD
10:47 Culiforge      ubuntu 10.04 that is...
10:47 Culiforge      Could someone point me to a good and simple tutorial for installing Koha on 10.04? I'm about 2 months using Linux and need a little hand holding :)
10:30 mcmx_          Hi all, i'm trying to set up LDAP (Active Directory) on Koha however when i try and login with a valid AD account i get a 500 and "Add_Delta_Days(): not a valid date" in the log, any ideas? Many Thanks
09:07 magnuse        especially with the packages - where's the fun in using them? :-)
09:06 rangi          :)
09:01 magnuse        otherwise it might be too easy...
09:01 rangi          lets install and old version of koha, ignore the instructions saying postgres support is expiremental and wont work
09:00 magnuse        lol
09:00 rangi          hmm is it international do things the hard way day?
09:00 kf             meeting time
08:43 kf             hi paul_p and julian_m
08:43 rangi          wb paul_p and hi julian_m_
08:36 kf             and a ticket for a full year is quite inexpensive
08:36 kf             evenings
08:36 kf             it's a bit cheaper in the eveinngs
08:36 kf             lol
08:36 asaurat        for this price they could add a dinosaur or two
08:35 kf             it's the blumeninsel
08:35 kf             yep
08:35 asaurat        voll mit Blumen :D
08:35 kf             if you like flowers, plants and gardens :)
08:35 kf             :)
08:35 kf             it's worth a visit
08:35 kf             hm yes
08:34 asaurat        the island of Mainau
08:30 asaurat        I saw it while on the boat to Konstanz and the flyers look gorgeous :D but didn't take the time to go there
08:29 asaurat        oh, btw, is this colorful island near Konstanz worth the entry fee? :D
08:27 kf             asaurat: that's a hard one
08:25 sophie_m       hi #koha
08:17 magnuse        nothing against german per se, just that memories of learning it in school are less than fond... :-)
08:16 asaurat        (first word I learnt in Deutschland after "hallo" und "bier")
08:15 asaurat        Freizugigkeitsbescheinigung
08:13 kf             yeah, learning german would do that
08:12 magnuse        the horror...
08:11 kf             magnuse: ohoh
08:10 kf             heya rangi
08:10 rangi          hi kf
08:10 magnuse        kf: it's all coming back to me now...
08:09 kf             :)
08:09 kf             morning asaurat
08:09 kf             heh
08:09 asaurat        hi !
08:09 kf             nope
08:09 asaurat        did I scare you yoo ? :D
08:09 asaurat        boo
08:09 kf             magnuse: trying to learn german again?
08:09 kf             magnuse: you scare me a little bit
08:09 magnuse        willkommen zur�ck, kf
08:08 kf             back
08:05 magnuse        way to go...
08:04 rangi          yep, we have a few of those, its why we cant just do what liblime did, and switch on plack, or it ends up broken like theirs
08:04 rangi          hi matts
08:04 magnuse        rangi: ouch!
08:03 matts          hi #koha !
08:03 rangi          fine under cgi ... bad under persistance, nothing clears that var when the syspref changes
08:03 rangi          }
08:03 rangi          return $prefformat;
08:03 rangi          }
08:03 rangi          $prefformat = C4::Context->preference('dateformat');
08:03 rangi          unless ( defined $prefformat ) {
08:02 rangi          sub _prefformat {
08:02 rangi
08:02 rangi          use vars qw($prefformat);
08:02 rangi          hmm i just found a bug
07:53 julian_m       hello
07:53 reiveune       hello
07:52 magnuse        kia ora hdl
07:46 cait           bbiab
07:46 cait           ok, time for work
07:46 cait           especially the option to change the records using xslt
07:46 cait           hm - would love to see this feature
07:46 cait           not sure what the problem is though
07:43 cait           I see he tried with swb (our catalog)
07:43 marcelr        if he doesnt find it, maybe i split the patch
07:42 cait           he noted on the bug he will have no time to debug
07:42 cait           ah
07:42 marcelr        it came from biblibre
07:41 marcelr        i asked jonathan to look for a newer version of xslt file
07:41 marcelr        yes true
07:41 cait           marcelr: I saw yesterday that the sru patch is stuck with a unimarc problem
07:36 marcelr        hi cait
07:36 cait           hi marcelr
07:35 marcelr        and rangi
07:35 marcelr        hi magnuse
07:35 rangi          hi marcelr :)
07:35 huginn         magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -1.0�C (8:20 AM CET on January 12, 2012). Conditions: Low Drifting Snow. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: -6.0�C. Windchill: -9.0�C. Pressure: 28.82 in 976 hPa (Steady).
07:35 magnuse        @wunder boo
07:35 magnuse        hiya marcelr
07:35 magnuse        ;-)
07:35 marcelr        hello koha
07:35 magnuse        i do, i do!
07:35 cait           fräulein if you really want to use that term
07:33 rangi          heya alex_a
07:33 magnuse        bonjour alex_a!
07:32 alex_a         hello !
07:31 magnuse        or fra�lein? nah looks wrong
07:31 cait           lol
07:31 magnuse        ach ja, guten morgen fr�ulein cait
07:30 cait           morning magnuse :)
07:29 magnuse        hehe
07:23 magnuse        hiya rangi
07:23 rangi          quick better put that on wikipedia
07:23 magnuse        hehe
07:23 wahanui        magnuse is, like, afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza
07:23 rangi          heya magnuse
07:23 magnuse        kia ora #koha!
07:17 rangi          was a good break tho
07:17 rangi          it was tempting by waiouru to just leave htem there :-)
07:14 ibeardslee     good break? I see that you came back with all the kids ;)
07:07 cait           wb rangi :)
07:06 Oak            :)
07:06 Oak            morning
07:06 rangi          evening
04:43 cait           hi mr Oak :)
04:43 Oak            good morning miss cait :)
04:41 cait           good morning #koha
04:31 bag            hey yo AmitG
03:55 Oak            kia ora #koha
03:27 AmitG          heya bag
00:01 jcamins_away   Looks like you steered her right. :)
00:01 jcamins_away   wizzyrea: Shari got her Transformer tablet. She's very excited.