Time Nick Message 21:51 skushner Hi...anyone seen this before? Getting this error on GIT (DEV) install on Debian using Install.Debian by Magnus Enger..thx.(13)Permission denied: /root/.htaccess pcfg_openfile: unable to check htaccess file, ensure it is readable 21:26 schuster off to a meeting and then home... see ya! 21:13 * oleonard too calls it a day 21:04 cait good night all 21:04 cait calling a day sounds good 21:04 cait not sure what to look for... 21:04 cait jcamins_away: I was looking at explain, but not seeing much difference 21:03 jcamins Good night, #koha. 21:03 jcamins Yeah, time to call it a day. 21:01 jcamins Without needing to run the query. 21:01 jcamins If you use EXPLAIN it tell you what it's going to do. 21:00 cait so it's slower? 20:59 jcamins Hm. I think it's about time to call it a day. 20:58 oleonard Yeah, pretty much :( 20:57 cait oleonard is probably gone to get coffee - waiting for the query to finish 20:55 jcamins It seems to me that might be faster. 20:55 cait I think you would have to use between ... and... here and I always forget if it's inclusive or not 20:55 jcamins Worth a try. 20:54 cait I didn#t change the dates 20:54 cait oleonard, jcamins: perhaps liek this? http://paste.koha-community.org/198 20:53 cait not sure - I remember it like that 20:53 * jcamins didn't know that. 20:52 cait instead of using the functions 20:52 cait better compare to a date 20:52 cait rangi said doing the dates like this is slow 20:52 cait ah 20:50 jcamins cait: worth a try. 20:49 cait hm subqueries? 20:48 jcamins oleonard: unfortunately, a UNION will be very slow too. 20:47 cait hm 20:47 oleonard Get counts of circulations for each collection code per branch for a certain month 20:46 cait what are you trying to do? 20:45 jcamins oleonard: it has to create a temporary table with *all* your statistics for ALB. 20:45 oleonard That query is really painfully slow 20:44 pastebot "oleonard" at 66.213.78.34 pasted "Counting circulation of a specific collection code" (7 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/197 19:10 kf bye all :) 18:57 JoeLib001 Thanks a bunch. :-) I will look at getting us updated. 18:56 * jcamins goes to eat some lunch. 18:55 jcamins Well, I always just use debian.koha-community.org anyway. 18:55 jcamins Hm, that doesn't have 3.6.2 yet. 18:55 JoeLib001 Ahh. 18:55 jcamins Here: https://launchpad.net/~koha/+archive/koha-stable 18:55 jcamins There are stable versions too. 18:55 JoeLib001 That's what it says. 18:55 JoeLib001 This is a ppa for ubuntu packages for development versions of Koha, they are based on the packages at debian.koha-community.org 18:55 jcamins It varies, but I wouldn't use them in production. 18:54 jcamins Ehhh... 18:54 JoeLib001 How stable are development versions? 18:54 jcamins That has something to do with Ubuntu. 18:53 jcamins And see https://launchpad.net/~koha/+archive/ppa 18:53 JoeLib001 I will have to work on that. Thanks for the help. 18:53 JoeLib001 Awesome. 18:53 jcamins Those instructions work for Ubuntu, too. 18:53 jcamins http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.4_on_Debian_Squeeze 18:52 jcamins Just install using the packages, and it'll be super easy. 18:52 jcamins No reason not to keep using Debian. 18:52 JoeLib001 I have been using Ubuntu, but I am not adverse to using plain Debian. 18:51 JoeLib001 jcamins: Do you have a "tutorial" for setting up 3.6.2 that you would recommend? 18:45 jcamins Just stick with one "fake" server. 18:45 JoeLib001 Yeah, it is. :-) 18:45 jcamins Don't do it. 18:45 jcamins That's a very bad idea. 18:45 jcamins If you're just starting out, better to be using the latest stable version than to start out with an old version (with old bugs!). 18:45 JoeLib001 Currently I have two installs pointing to the same db. Our Local IT guru says that's at least a smidge crazy. I tend to agree, but I haven't had time to setup a "real" server yet. 18:44 jcamins JoeLib001: I'd encourage you to update to 3.6.2, then. 18:43 JoeLib001 I started migration our Journal Collection from an old program to Koha and am still getting up to speed on what I need to be doing. 18:43 jcamins JoeLib001: I'd encourage you to use 3.6.2 because that's the most recent stable version (or at least 3.4.7), but the work isn't available in any stable version yet. 18:42 JoeLib001 Hmm...., should I have a version of koha other than 3.04.05? 18:41 jcamins If you're not a developer-type person, I recommend against that route. 18:41 jcamins There are preliminary patches attached to the bug, which, if you're a developer-type person, you could try out and sign off on. 18:41 JoeLib001 Gotcha. 18:41 jcamins JoeLib001: I'd recommend waiting until they're tested and make it into Koha proper. 18:41 JoeLib001 Hmm...., how do I get the patches? 18:40 jcamins JoeLib001: (with the patches for bug 7284, Koha won't do that) 18:36 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7284 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED , Authority matching algorithm improvements 18:36 jcamins You'll be very glad to know that I'm making progress on bug 7284. 18:36 jcamins JoeLib001: yeah, that sounds about par for the course. 18:35 JoeLib001 The Link works and it did not create a duplicate for that bib record, but it did put in another record when I edited/saved a different bib record. Now I have 3 Nursing Periodicals Authority Records for 3 different journals. 18:28 * jcamins passes talljoy the duct tape. 18:23 JoeLib001 Aahh..., true. 18:22 jcamins The question is whether the link that you now have will work, and whether next time you try to add a record with that subject, Koha creates a new authority record despite your best efforts. 18:22 JoeLib001 What would? 18:22 jcamins JoeLib001: reindexing would not recreate the authority record. 18:21 JoeLib001 I am guessing, because the bib record already had a correct authority record associated with it? 18:20 JoeLib001 Yay! I deleted the duplicate. Re-indexed and it did not come back. 18:20 kf ok, now they do :) 18:18 kf po files will not update 18:18 kf meh 18:11 kf then I will go 18:11 kf I am only committing my changes and updating the todo list 18:10 kf thx :) 18:10 kf lol 18:09 jcamins Chester the blue cat agrees. 18:08 wizzyrea :) 18:08 wizzyrea (go home) 18:08 wizzyrea it told me so 18:08 wizzyrea plus, your couch misses you 18:08 wizzyrea kkkkkkk fffffffffff - eeeeaaattttt mmmmeeeeee 18:08 * jcamins thinks it might be a frittata. 18:08 * jcamins hears it. 18:08 jcamins kf: so it is. 18:08 wizzyrea kf: your dinner is calling you 18:07 kf hmpf 18:07 jcamins kf: looks like it does. 18:07 kf not sure it works that way 18:07 jcamins :) 18:07 wahanui kf is, like, cait or really, really sweet. or <reply>she gives me memory loss or a holds expert 18:07 jcamins kf ? 18:07 wahanui okay, jcamins. 18:07 jcamins kf is also a holds expert. 18:06 wizzyrea k 18:06 kf I have not touched that part yet 18:06 kf for multiple branches 18:06 * kf is not a holds expert 18:06 kf will need help later I think 18:05 wizzyrea well I'm glad it's going well 18:01 kf still nice :) 18:01 kf but still doing quite basic tests 18:01 wizzyrea nice! 18:01 kf so far nothing blew up 18:01 kf I started testing on allowonshelfholds 18:01 wizzyrea i should probably go back and check that again 18:01 kf looking forward to see that in 3.8 :) 18:01 kf cool :) 18:01 wizzyrea afaict 18:00 kf ah, so branchcode + lettercode are the key but they have to be in the right module too? 18:00 wizzyrea issueslip and issueqslip, for example 18:00 kf hm 18:00 kf ah ok 18:00 wizzyrea and not only that, but the new codes aren't (yet) documented 18:00 kf and most of the time it makes not much sense 17:59 kf that's true for most things 17:59 kf yeah 17:59 wizzyrea the slip doesn't work 17:59 wizzyrea if you get the code/component combo wrong 17:59 wizzyrea is that for the slips 17:59 wizzyrea what I'm on about 17:59 wizzyrea nope I understood 17:58 kf wizzyrea: not sure I explained the overdue thing right - the cool thing about it is that you can have different letters for 1st, 2nd and 3rd and for each patron category 17:58 jcamins JoeLib001: but then, there is no dire effect from having two. 17:58 jcamins JoeLib001: nothing dire. 17:57 jcamins JoeLib001: you'll have a broken link, and the system will just create a new authority record again anyway. 17:57 oleonard Thanks for looking jcamins 17:57 jcamins Carry on. 17:57 jcamins Actually, I think that may be the best way. 17:56 jcamins Lemme think. 17:56 jcamins oleonard: wait, I see what you're doing. 17:55 jcamins oleonard: one moment. 17:54 oleonard jcamins: Can you explain? 17:52 JoeLib001 What is the worst that could happen, if I delete one of them? 17:52 jcamins oleonard: I'd do a UNION. 17:51 jcamins I'd just live with having a duplicate record. 17:51 jcamins JoeLib001: you could, but I wouldn't recommend it. 17:51 oleonard any opinions? 17:51 JoeLib001 Can I manually delete one of the authority records? Would it cause problems? 17:51 pastebot "oleonard" at 66.213.78.34 pasted "Counting circulation of a specific collection code" (1 line) at http://paste.koha-community.org/196 17:51 oleonard I'm curious if I'm approaching this query the best way 17:47 JoeLib001 Ahh... 17:47 jcamins -w is dangerous (don't know what it stands for, exactly, but I know it's dangerous) 17:47 jcamins -r is rebuild. 17:47 jcamins Don't use -w. 17:46 JoeLib001 I mean the -w and -r 17:46 JoeLib001 The -a is for authority records and the -b is for bib records. I forget exactly what the -b and -r are for, but those options make the bib records sync correctly. 17:45 Mkman yeh i am of ideias meh 17:44 JoeLib001 Should that work? 17:44 JoeLib001 sudo perl -I /usr/share/koha/lib /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -a -b -w -r 17:43 jcamins *for 17:43 jcamins JoeLib001: possibly an indexing issue, where you need to wait until rebuild_zebra to run. 17:42 jcamins JoeLib001: that's odd. 17:42 JoeLib001 The Authority Records point to the same bib record. 17:41 jcamins You will have to manually change which record those bibs are linked to, then delete the authority record. 17:41 jcamins JoeLib001: that means you have something linked to the authority record. 17:37 JoeLib001 When I do an authority search I get a duplicate authority. The only difference is that it's authority record #38, instead of authority record #36. Is there a way I can delete the duplicate? I see a Delete column, but there is nothing it. 17:36 Mkman jcamins: Yeh i will have to figure out how to set up that 17:34 jcamins Mkman: maybe it's the wrong MPM. The default configuration uses itk. 17:30 Mkman i think i mess something up on the configuration because it work loading the app correctly 17:27 oleonard Mkman: What? 17:27 Mkman It's still doesnt work 17:26 schuster OK I was just wondering if I needed to take a closer look then at all the JQ stuff I have in place. Thanks 17:25 oleonard break 17:25 oleonard schuster: I'm not saying something has changed which caused that to breka 17:24 schuster hmmm ok I'll try that interesting... Have you seen that with other jq stuff with 3.6? 17:23 oleonard schuster: That code works for me if I delete the line breaks 17:21 pastebot "schuster" at 12.220.224.66 pasted "jquery for sco login on login page" (4 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/195 17:20 oleonard Paste the jquery code at http://paste.koha-community.org 17:20 schuster I have that "jquery" code in my current system, but the link is not showing up now on the login page - maybe because the login page doesn't have the location anymore? 17:19 schuster Can I put that link here or not to direct you? 17:19 schuster in the manual it talks about putting a link to the sco files on the staff login page - selfcheckout.html 17:18 * oleonard doesn't know what you mean about "the jquery for the self checkout login" 17:18 jcamins schuster: just being silly. 17:18 schuster jcamins - not development just checking existing functionality! 17:17 schuster does the jquery for the self checkout login still work or does it have to be tweaked with the TT? I'm not seeing that link on the login page when I've upgraded to 3.6 17:17 jcamins Run! 17:17 oleonard Yes 17:16 schuster oleonard still around? 17:05 maximep looking at it... yeah... pretty much any line is enough 17:04 jcamins maximep: only one line of C4::Search should do it. :P 17:03 maximep it doesn't take much perl to make my brain hurt :/ 16:49 jcamins Mine too. 16:46 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #26: "<chris> as an aside C4::Search makes my brain hurt" (added by jdavidb at 09:21 PM, August 22, 2009) 16:46 wizzyrea @quote random 16:46 wizzyrea hehe 16:46 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #176: "rangi: buy people a glass of zomg there's actually real things to care about" juice?"" (added by jcamins at 06:02 PM, January 06, 2012) 16:46 wizzyrea @quote random 16:46 Mkman jcamins: well the apache is configured ok. so my conclusion is that i miss something in my configuration 16:45 jcamins Mkman: how goes the install on Gentoo? 16:44 Mkman Hey! 16:39 jcamins [off] I was expecting more "what are you, dumb?" messages about the POC. 16:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7430 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, NEW , ModZebra should not be in C4::Biblio 16:39 * jcamins thinks he may have scared everyone with his message about bug 7430. 16:28 nengard very nice! 16:28 nengard druthb and i went for a walk on the beach 16:28 jcamins Shari said it's pretty nice, though a little short on yarn stores. 16:27 jcamins talljoy: I didn't either. 16:27 * magnuse would have guessed santa barbara was a place with summer all year round, but doesn't know what he is talking about 16:27 talljoy hmpf....still haven't seen SBA by the light of day. 16:26 nengard jcamins not as nice as here!!! 16:26 jcamins oleonard: nengard, NateC, and JesseM brought winter to Santa Barbara. 16:26 oleonard Yeah, what's up with that? 16:26 jcamins magnuse: it's nice and warm here today. Warmer than in Santa Barbara. 16:25 magnuse got 15cm of snow today - there's 5 cm of snow clinging to every branch of every tree in the forest - rather purdy... 16:25 huginn oleonard: The current temperature in Ohio University, Athens, Ohio is 3.0�C (11:20 AM EST on January 11, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Windchill: 3.0�C. Pressure: 29.58 in 1001.6 hPa (Steady). 16:25 oleonard @wunder 45701 16:25 huginn jcamins: The current temperature in Santa Barbara, California is 4.0�C (7:53 AM PST on January 11, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 3.0�C. Windchill: 3.0�C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Rising). 16:25 jcamins @wunder sba 16:25 huginn jcamins: The current temperature in APRSWXNET Jackson Heights NY US, Corona, New York is 6.7�C (11:03 AM EST on January 11, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: -3.0�C. Windchill: 5.0�C. Pressure: 30.11 in 1019.5 hPa. 16:25 jcamins @wunder 11375 16:24 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -1.0�C (4:50 PM CET on January 11, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -2.0�C. Windchill: -6.0�C. Pressure: 29.18 in 988 hPa (Steady). 16:24 magnuse @wunder boo 16:24 huginn schuster: The current temperature in Brookview, Plano, Texas is 9.1�C (10:21 AM CST on January 11, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Windchill: 9.0�C. Pressure: 29.06 in 984.0 hPa (Falling). 16:24 schuster @wunder 75074 16:24 trea hi jcamins 16:24 talljoy hi jcamins! 16:24 jcamins nengard: you'll be glad to know that the weather is actually nice here today. :P 16:24 * jcamins waves to trea, talljoy, and nengard. 16:21 wizzyrea I had seen that one lol 16:21 wizzyrea oh ok yea 16:20 * wizzyrea will have to consult "know your meme" 16:20 wizzyrea no, heh 16:15 jcamins *one 16:14 reiveune bye 16:14 jcamins You don't know that oen? 16:14 wizzyrea lolwut 16:13 jcamins I also know your password is hunter2. :P 16:13 kf I have to figure out some xslt problems here 16:13 kf me too, sorry wizzyrea 16:12 jcamins wizzyrea: I know better than to follow that link. 16:12 wizzyrea http://bash.org/?latest prepare to 1. laugh and 2. lose part of your day 16:12 jcamins wizzyrea: lol 16:11 wizzyrea man where's the supybot bash plugin when you need it 16:11 magnuse lol 16:08 jcamins "What's a computer like you doing in an IRC channel like this?" ;) 16:07 schuster LOL... not so much that's why I was 32 before I got married! better with the computer! 16:07 jcamins I don't need items (that command won't export them), and 250k bibs isn't that many. 16:07 * oleonard bets schuster is smooth with the ladies too 16:06 magnuse jcamins++ 16:06 jcamins schuster: you bet. 16:06 schuster Still interested in playing with my data? 16:05 schuster OK - I'll keep the command and see if I can work my way around that. FYI - I have about 250,000 bibs and 1.3 million items. My auth_header came in with a count of 329137 16:04 magnuse [off] http://www.flickr.com/photos/nengard/sets/72157628818989173/with/6678628243/ 16:03 jcamins The easiest way to get the MARC for the biblios is to replace auth_header with biblioitems and authorities with biblios. 16:02 kf photos? 16:02 jcamins You need to get it from the command line: run mysql -u koha -p koha -e "SELECT marc FROM auth_header;" > ~/authorities.mrc ; gzip authorities.mrc 16:01 schuster when you say dump are you saying mysql or marc extraction or? Since there isn't a marc extractor for authority? 16:00 jcamins ;) 16:00 jcamins I waited until you came back to give you instructions. 16:00 jcamins I figured. 16:00 schuster oops - closed the wrong tab! 15:59 jcamins I need a MARC dump of your bibliographic and authority records (we can transfer via SFTP, FTP, dropbox, or carrier pidgeon, if you prefer), then I run the linker against them, send you the report, and give you a login to a catalog with the results. You poke around, see if things are behaving the way you expect, and give me any feedback you have. 15:57 jcamins schuster: yup, that was me. 15:57 schuster jcamins - I saw your note about hosting and testing the linker - that was you right? what is involved? 15:57 schuster One item that I thought was just a code change I believe is actually a template change so again more testing needed. 15:56 wizzyrea lol seriously 15:56 schuster The testing I need to do as noted when I asked about the git pieces were very true some of the problems that were fixed by PTFS I need to see if they are still problems in community or if I will need to somehow "refactor" them to include them into community. 15:55 jcamins oleonard: so it would seem! 15:55 magnuse bywater++ ;-) 15:55 schuster pretty good, I've bumped into a couple issues that I need to resolve with my equipment, but moving along slowly. 15:54 oleonard Juding from nengard's Flickr photos ByWater has a strict beards-required policy for men. 15:52 jcamins How goes the test installation installation? 15:52 * jcamins waves to schuster 15:47 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7435] An inactive fund is selected a default in neworderempty.pl <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7435> 15:45 wizzyrea hi jcamins 15:45 kf hi jcamins 15:44 jcamins Good morning, #koha. 15:38 m84cmx kl thanks 15:33 wizzyrea for* 15:33 wizzyrea those were fore m84cmx 15:32 wizzyrea also this: http://kohablog.wordpress.com/category/koha/ldap/ 15:32 wizzyrea might help 15:32 wizzyrea http://dbouman.blogspot.com/2009/04/koha-integration-rfid-sip2-ldap.html 15:28 m84cmx yeah i will, although, i think i probably need a good config example, there a bit difficult to find it would seem 15:27 kf m84cmx: perhaps try asking your question on the mailing list, also give the version of koha you are using and what you did to configure ldap 15:20 m84cmx Hi all, im trying to set up ldap in Koha however when i try and log a valid LDAP (active directory) user in to the OPAC i get a 500 error and Add_Delta_Days(): not a valid date in the logs. Any idea? TIA 15:12 magnuse kf: yay! 15:06 kf ok, if anyone is interested - it's valid but should be in $v so perhaps we can fix it :) 14:57 kf it should now use the ; ... for the link anyway, perhaps cataloging error 14:57 kf or in building the link 14:57 kf so perhaps we can fix that in cataloging 14:57 kf ok 14:57 hdl ... is also causing problems at search 14:56 * oleonard wouldn't be surprised to see "; ..." causing problems for the highlight script 14:56 kf seems it's the ;... 14:56 kf yep 14:56 kf the link you posted works 14:55 kf so it works without? 14:55 kf I don't know actually 14:55 kf catalogers? 14:55 oleonard Why "; ...." at the end? 14:54 oleonard [off] https://hfjs.bsz-bw.de/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=se:Me%E1%B8%B3orot%20u-me%E1%B8%A5%E1%B8%B3arim ; ... 14:54 oleonard the link looks weird 14:54 wizzyrea oh I've seen that highlight script do this before 14:54 kf probably have to find out what I did before I strt debugging this 14:54 kf hm 14:53 wizzyrea or you upped the script timeout 14:53 kf or warn 14:53 kf so it does never stop 14:53 kf I think I might have deactivated something in firefox 14:53 wizzyrea same version as magnuse 14:52 hdl same for me. 14:52 wizzyrea oh nm I got the "wait" too 14:52 magnuse [off] https://hfjs.bsz-bw.de/opac-tmpl/prog/en/lib/jquery/plugins/jquery.highlight-3.js:21 14:52 wizzyrea it works ok for me, i suspect it's because the query is cached now 14:51 magnuse yeah, let me check 14:51 magnuse that's ff 9.0.1 on ubuntu 11.04 14:50 kf does it tell you which script? 14:50 kf hmmm 14:50 magnuse *script 14:50 magnuse hm, worked for me, but it took a long time and i got a "a sxript on this page has stopped working" warning 14:48 kf [off] https://hfjs.bsz-bw.de/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=45420 - someone brave wnat to klick on the series link? 14:48 magnuse ouch? 14:48 kf one of my libraries found a link in opac that kills firefox 14:48 kf oh nice 14:42 wizzyrea we could ask for a lock 14:41 * oleonard reverts the edit 14:40 kf hi wizzyrea 14:40 kf yes 14:39 wizzyrea they bought the liblime copyrights that are littered throughout the code, if I understand correctly 14:38 oleonard PTFS is in rare form today. 14:38 kf it contains bugs? 14:37 magnuse "3.6.2 which contains over 2,000 reported bugs" 14:35 oleonard Source code rights?! 14:35 oleonard Added: " In 2007, LibLime acquired the Koha brand, Website and source code rights from Katipo Communications, Ltd." 14:34 oleonard Developer changed from Katipo Communications Ltd. to LibLime 14:33 oleonard http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Koha_%28software%29&action=historysubmit&diff=470760578&oldid=470201642 14:33 * magnuse waves 14:31 kf hi hdl 14:31 hdl hi all 14:30 * oleonard waves back 14:28 * wizzyrea waves 12:48 m84cmx Hi all, im trying to set up ldap in Koha however when i try and log a valid LDAP (active directory) user in to the OPAC i get a 500 error and Add_Delta_Days(): not a valid date in the logs. Any idea? TIA 11:39 alex_a bon appétit 11:32 vfernandes bonne apettite... 11:32 kf_lunch lunch time :) 11:32 vfernandes kf++ for being patiente :P 11:32 kf_lunch hmpf 11:31 magnuse kf++ for being awesome 11:28 kf hope it works for the client :) 11:28 vfernandes thank you so much... now it's time to explain to the client 11:28 vfernandes kf i've already understand how the holds works :) 11:27 kf hm maybe the system preference ReservesNeedReturns influences the behaviour here - but I woudl test that thoroughly first. I have never used it 11:26 vfernandes hummm i've tried and works like you said :) 11:25 kf and you can print the hold slip 11:25 kf koha will report it was not checked out and the hold screen will pop up 11:25 kf scan the book for a return 11:25 kf do it 11:25 vfernandes *how can 11:25 vfernandes yes... i can the librarian do a return on a available item? 11:24 kf which is a bit mean 11:24 kf and then the person goes to the circulation desk and can not check out the book 11:24 kf and someon places a hold on it 11:24 kf one of the things is, that someone with the book walking around the library 11:23 kf but you might want to ask again a bit later 11:23 kf I don'tthink so 11:23 kf hm 11:23 vfernandes can.'t this be automatic? 11:22 kf then the librarian does a return - and the hold will be triggered, like when it was checked out before 11:22 kf and get the items 11:22 kf and go to the shelf 11:22 kf then the librarian is supposed to look at the *holds to pull* report 11:21 kf yes 11:21 vfernandes ok that's correct... bu if all items are available? 11:21 kf ok? 11:21 kf d 11:21 kf and the item is checked out - the hold will be triggered, when the item is returne 11:20 kf yes 11:20 kf :) I will try to start at the beginning 11:20 vfernandes when i go to the hold tab in the record am make a hold 11:20 kf ok 11:20 vfernandes kf wait.... i'm not understanding (maybe becaus english isn't my best language) 11:19 kf because the hold has not been triggered 11:19 kf until that happens the item on the shelf can still be checked out by someone else, even if there is a hold on the record or item 11:18 kf so the system can trigger the hold 11:18 kf the trick is that you check in the available items 11:18 kf make sense I mean :) 11:18 kf ok so - no it doesn't 11:18 vfernandes damn i'm confused now.... lol 11:18 kf make sense? 11:18 kf then the items show in awaiting pickup 11:17 kf holds to pull - librarian checks and pulls them, does a return on the circulation desk 11:17 kf so the patron picks it up 11:17 kf and put it there 11:17 kf someone has gone to get it 11:17 kf holds to pickup means it's in a separate area of the library 11:16 kf it's working correctly then 11:16 kf ah 11:16 kf after the item is pulled you should do a check in and the item status should change to be on the shelf waiting for pickup 11:16 vfernandes the items are available so there is nothing to check in 11:16 kf have they been checked in? 11:16 kf ok 11:16 vfernandes holds waiting pickup 11:16 kf I misunderstoot then 11:16 kf oh 11:15 vfernandes the problem is with reserves waiting 11:15 vfernandes the reserves to pull are there 11:14 kf after opening the page 11:14 kf if you click on submit there 11:14 kf I wondered if it made a difference for you 11:14 kf there are filters on the side 11:14 kf if you open the holds to pull report 11:13 vfernandes i didn't understand kf :/ 11:11 kf vfernandes: can you try using the filters and check if it shows when you resubmit the page with those filters? 11:11 alex_a and all 11:11 kf the holds queue one - perhaps 11:10 alex_a hello kf 11:10 kf vfernandes: I think he could use the other report to pull them for now 11:10 kf and submitting the page again? 11:10 vfernandes kf the problem is that the client needs that 11:10 kf vfernandes: could you try changing the date filter? 11:09 kf hi alex_a 11:09 kf could you use the other report for now? 11:08 vfernandes if you do a reserve on a record with items available the reserve should be automatically waiting to pull 11:07 vfernandes but that's a problem :/ 11:01 kf but nothing says it isn't working at all 11:01 kf hm there are some bug reports about hold to pull 11:00 kf yeah, I think it is what most libraries use 11:00 vfernandes holds queue looks fines... all reserves done are there 10:59 kf wizzyrea would probably know 10:59 kf vfernandes: I think one of the reports is broken - but not sure which it is 10:59 vfernandes the cronjobs for holds are runing: build_holds_queue and cancel_expired_holds 10:57 magnuse i'm not sure about this, but there might be a cron job that needs to be run? 10:56 vfernandes if i check the holds queue in the circulation tab the reserve is there, but if i check the holds waiting there isn't nothing there 10:55 vfernandes question: as the items are all available shouldn't be the reserve waiting to be pull? 10:54 vfernandes the reserve has priority 1 10:54 vfernandes it's done a reserve for the first available item of the record 10:52 vfernandes example: one record with all items available 10:52 magnuse probably not, but just ask anyway, maybe someone else can :-) 10:51 vfernandes magnuse can you help with one thing related to Koha reserves? 10:51 magnuse hiya vfernandes 10:51 vfernandes hi guys 10:10 * magnuse didn't mean to... 10:09 kf magnuse: you scared Oak away! 09:56 magnuse Oak 09:47 Oak magnuse 09:25 magnuse ooh, shiny: http://librarylab.law.harvard.edu/shelflife/about.php (demo does not seem to work, but the tutorial video is interesting) 08:35 asaurat ok, fine :) 08:34 kf and I think for the overdues reports it's a great idea 08:34 asaurat ok I see, maybe I should make a better description 08:34 kf so what were you talking about? :) 08:34 kf I was talking about the overdue noties 08:33 kf so I might have misunderstood 08:33 kf I thought you meant the letters? 08:33 kf ah 08:33 asaurat can a koha staff member use strings like <item><<items.enumchron>></item> somewhere ? 08:32 asaurat I was thinking about modifying overdue.tt 08:32 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7434 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, ASSIGNED , Display of issue number for serials in overdues 08:32 asaurat what do you mean for the bug 7434 ? 08:32 kf hi asaurat :) 08:31 asaurat hi kf 08:30 kf hi sophie_m :) 08:30 sophie_m hi #koha 08:26 kf :) 08:26 Oak yep, i did that on purpose... used cait i mean. 08:23 kf fredericd: around? 08:23 kf :) 08:23 kf cait will listen later 08:23 Oak danke :) 08:23 kf wb Oak :) 08:23 Oak hello kf :) 08:22 huginn Oak: The operation succeeded. 08:22 Oak @later tell cait listen to this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMRRRJcw2xM&feature=player_embedded 08:21 kf hi #koha 08:21 magnus_away bonjour france! 08:21 francharb morning 08:04 asaurat hi 08:01 wahanui hello, julian_m 08:01 julian_m hello 07:43 wahanui hey, reiveune 07:43 reiveune hello 07:33 magnus_away namaste AmitG 07:30 AmitG heya magnus 07:10 magnus_away guten morgen! 07:10 cait morning :) 07:10 magnus_away kia ora #koha! 07:10 * magnus_away magnuse 05:54 cait hi AmitG 05:47 Oak Heya AmitG 05:46 AmitG heya Oak, cait :D 04:49 Oak I have another one typed, just need to copy paste. 04:49 Oak maybe two... :) 04:48 cait one joke each day? :) 04:47 cait hi Oak :) 04:47 Oak kia ora #koha 04:47 Oak Guten Morgen cait :) 04:47 Oak Archie and Finnegan were discussing kissing: Archie: "Ain't it unsanitary?" Finnegan: "Maybe it is. But I can't think of a nicer way to meet a germ." ~ Duffy's Tavern, NBC 04:46 Oak Joke: 04:26 huginn eythian: The operation succeeded. 04:26 eythian @later tell larryb the packages have been updated to 3.6.2 now. 03:42 BobB hi AmitG 03:42 AmitG BobB around? 03:42 AmitG heya bag 03:35 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7420] Add max fines to circulation matrix <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7420> 01:46 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5911] Transport Cost Matrix of transporting an item between branches <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5911> 01:32 bag hi there