Time Nick Message 00:12 * wizzyrea wonders how much longer this roast is going to cook. 00:14 jcamins wizzyrea: forever! 00:14 wizzyrea hmm 00:18 jcamins wizzyrea: sorry about that. 00:18 wizzyrea no worries - i'm guessing "soon" is the real right answer. :) 01:04 * jcamins wonders whether wizzyrea's roast ever finished cooking. 03:28 AmitG heyabag 03:29 AmitG heya bag 03:29 bag heya AmitG 04:37 Oak Guten Morgen cait. you are up early :) 04:38 Oak @wunder Konstanz 04:38 huginn Oak: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 3.0�C (5:34 AM CET on January 03, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Windchill: 3.0�C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027.0 hPa (Steady). 04:38 cait good morning Oak :) 04:38 Oak @wunder islamabad 04:38 huginn Oak: The current temperature in Islamabad, Pakistan is 7.0�C (9:00 AM PKT on January 03, 2012). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 4.0�C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). 04:38 Oak @wunder moon 04:38 huginn Oak: Error: No such location could be found. 04:38 Oak hm. 04:40 cait oh 04:41 cait @wunder Islamabad 04:41 huginn cait: The current temperature in Islamabad, Pakistan is 7.0�C (9:00 AM PKT on January 03, 2012). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 4.0�C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). 04:41 Oak i know. 05:13 rangi evening 05:13 rangi @wunder nzwn 05:13 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 16.0�C (6:00 PM NZDT on January 03, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Falling). 05:18 Oak good evening rangi 05:46 rangi heya Oak 05:46 Oak :) 05:46 cait evening rangi :) 06:07 rangi http://perladvent.org/2011/2011-12-22.html <-- something worth looking into more 06:54 bag @wunder 93109 06:54 huginn bag: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 9.8�C (10:53 PM PST on January 02, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 98%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Windchill: 10.0�C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1020.9 hPa (Steady). 07:01 rangi heya bag 07:01 bag heya rangi 07:01 cait hi bag 07:01 bag yo cait 07:06 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7394] Broken detail page for last link from result page <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7394> 07:11 bigbrovar hi guys, I just noticed a small bug with my koha instance which has been running for about a year now. I noticed that when. I have goto to the root url library.aust-abuja.org everything is displayed fine. including opacsmallimage. however when I click to this URL library.aust-abuja.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-main.pl which still direct to my koha' opac only this time. image contents I added to the opacmainbloack and even the opacsmallimage fail to load and I ge 07:11 bigbrovar t this error using chrome debug tools http://pastebin.com/ueEs0e4J interestingly I dont get any error when I just go to library.aust-abuja.org it only shows up when the link is http://library.aust-abuja.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-main.pl what could I be doing wrong ? 07:12 magnuse kia ora #koha! 07:14 rangi hi magnuse 07:14 magnuse hiya and happy new year rangi! 07:15 cait morning magnuse :) 07:15 rangi bigbrovar: not sure, seems like maybe opacbaseurl set wrong? 07:15 bigbrovar let me check, well be 07:16 rangi or path to opacsmallimage relative instead of full path 07:17 rangi heh 07:17 cait fredericd++ 07:17 rangi fredericd and cait signed off at the same time 07:18 fredericd cait: BZ collision! 07:18 bigbrovar rangi, the base url is correct 07:19 fredericd please, after you 07:19 cait fredericd: I will add my sign-off to your signed off patch :) 07:19 rangi :) 07:19 rangi bigbrovar: hmm check the path to the opacsmallimage then 07:20 bigbrovar rangi, this is the part to the opacsmallimage opac-tmpl/prog/images/tellico.png thats the value I used. 07:20 alex_a morning 07:21 magnuse bigbrovar: try a full url, starting with http... 07:21 bigbrovar rangi, what should be the absolute path? from the koha server root? or the baseurl? 07:25 rangi http://the.whole.thing/ 07:25 rangi what magnuse said 07:26 rangi :) 07:26 rangi hi alex_a 07:31 bigbrovar rangi, magnuse thanks so much guys, it works fine now :) 07:31 magnuse yay! 07:41 * rangi is tired 07:41 rangi next time i think taking a 2 year old and a 5 year old 'camping' in a tent in my parents backyard is a good idea 07:41 rangi remind me its not :) 07:42 magnuse will do! ;-) 07:44 bag sorry rangi but that always sounds like an excellent idea ;) 07:44 rangi they loved it 07:44 bag yeah that's the key :) 07:44 rangi there wasnt much sleep going on though 07:45 cait :) 07:45 bag I think I remember nights like that when I was young 07:53 reiveune hello 07:53 wahanui hola, reiveune 07:53 rangi hi reiveune 07:53 reiveune happy new year everybody 07:54 rangi and to you too 07:58 magnuse same to you reiveune 07:58 reiveune :) 08:01 julian_m hi 08:06 asaurat hi 08:06 wahanui niihau, asaurat 08:06 asaurat niihau =) 08:10 matts hi 08:12 rangi hi matts, asaurat and julian_m .. and wb kf 08:12 * kf waves :) 08:13 julian_m hi rangi and kf 08:14 gaetan_B hello 08:14 wahanui what's up, gaetan_B 08:16 gaetan_B :) 08:17 kf hm 08:17 kf shouldn't bug 6145 marked wontfix? 08:17 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6145 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , ModBiblio double encoding items information 08:17 kf it's for 3.2? 08:18 rangi if it cant be replicated in master then yeah 08:19 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6145] ModBiblio double encoding items information <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6145> 08:19 asaurat hi rangi, kf and gaetan_B! 08:19 kf julian_m: do you think it's still relevant for master? 08:21 julian_m kf, hm... I don't know, i just updated patch status as it still apply 08:22 kf hm 08:22 paul_p good morning world 08:22 kf I think than the version number should be changed 08:22 kf then 08:22 kf morning paul_p 08:22 magnuse hiya sophie_m1 and paul_p 08:23 sophie_m1 hello magnuse, happy new year ! 08:23 sophie_m1 and happy new year every one 08:23 kf hello sophie_m1 - happy new year:) 08:24 rangi hi paul_p by sophie 08:24 rangi bye too 08:24 paul_p happy new year rangi 08:24 paul_p & good night ! 08:30 francharb hello 08:34 kf hi francharb :) 08:35 rangi hi francharb 08:58 AmitG gaetan_B 08:58 AmitG happy new year 08:59 gaetan_B hi AmitG! naya saal mubarak ho! 09:00 AmitG gaetan_B: aap ko bhi 09:00 AmitG :D 09:01 gaetan_B :) 09:12 rangi paul_p: my dad is reading some french detective novels in french, its what he decided to buy himself for xmas 09:16 asaurat nice :) 09:16 asaurat Le mystère de la chambre jaune ? =) 09:17 rangi could be, ill have to look at his calibre next time im there :) 09:33 magnuse meeting in ~24.5 hours, right? 09:35 paul_p magnuse, right 09:37 kf heh 09:37 * kf will be there 09:38 * magnuse too 09:58 * kf_mtg nick kf 10:33 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7379] some database fields are displayed 'as is' when they are linked to autorised values <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7379> 10:53 asaurat kf: tried to give hints about what changed, but without the patch formatting I'm not sure it's useful :p 10:54 kf ah 10:54 kf was commenting on the bug again right now :) 10:54 kf the bugzilla diff view is quite helpful 10:55 kf we decided to use perltidy I think 10:55 kf but not sure we finally decided when to use it and on what parts of the code - only new, everything etc. 10:55 kf so perhaps this is really something that we should discuss and decide about 10:55 kf asaurat ping :) 10:56 asaurat yes! 10:58 asaurat could be a topic for tomorrow ? or are they all already decided ? 10:58 kf nope 10:58 kf we can stil add to the agenda 11:01 kf perhaps we can add : coding guidelines? 11:03 asaurat coding guidelines, and patching limits :D should a patch fix only what the title implies, or do more if possible ? 11:03 kf yes 11:03 kf I think we all kind of sneak around that 11:03 kf fixing a few more lines than strictly necessary hereand there 11:04 kf i think one reason not to fix indentationmight be copyright? 11:04 kf git blame will blame you for the lines, even if it's only whitespace changes 11:04 kf hi hdl 11:04 kf :) 11:06 asaurat ok, not used to this kind of thinking :D I'll learn 11:06 kf not sure you have to ) 11:06 kf we will find out :) 11:07 kf are you going to be at the meeting? it's a good time for europe tomorrow 11:07 asaurat yes, should be present 11:08 magnuse the more the merrier! 11:23 kf asaurat: ok,I have done it 11:23 kf let's find out :) 11:24 asaurat nice :) 11:24 asaurat kf++ 12:33 tcohen hi #koha 12:48 druthb o/ 13:04 magnuse \o 13:09 kf1 hi druthb 13:09 druthb :D 13:20 magnuse @wunder boo 13:20 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 0.0�C (1:50 PM CET on January 03, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: -4.0�C. Windchill: -6.0�C. Pressure: 29.09 in 985 hPa (Steady). 13:21 druthb @wunder lawrence, ks 13:21 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is -4.6�C (7:20 AM CST on January 03, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: -13.0�C. Windchill: -9.0�C. Pressure: 30.41 in 1029.7 hPa (Falling). 13:21 * druthb screeches to a halt. 13:21 druthb wait...it's colder in Lawrence, KS, than it is near the Arctic Circle? 13:22 kf1 @wunder Konstanz 13:22 huginn kf1: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 8.0�C (2:00 PM CET on January 03, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: 0.0�C. Pressure: 30.23 in 1024 hPa (Falling). 13:22 druthb that ain't right, now. 13:23 oleonard Hi #koha 13:23 druthb g'morning, oleonard. 13:28 kf hi oleonard 13:28 kf :) 13:35 magnuse nort of the arctic circle, akshuly ;-) 13:35 * druthb shivers, and hunkers down under her blanket. 13:36 magnuse :-) 13:42 muni Hello, I face a problem during koha installation with perl dependencies. 13:43 muni How can i fix this problem? 13:43 magnuse muni: depends on what the problem is ;-) 13:45 muni Missing some perl dependencies 13:45 oleonard Which ones muni? 13:51 muni can't locate ZOOM.pm in @INC 13:56 magnuse muni: which OS are you installing on, and how are you doing the installation (which instructions are you following)? 14:18 schuster @wunder 75035 14:18 huginn schuster: The current temperature in Preston Lakes, Frisco, Texas is 2.8�C (8:17 AM CST on January 03, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: -4.0�C. Windchill: 3.0�C. Pressure: 30.58 in 1035.4 hPa (Rising). 14:19 schuster remembers cold - degree days - glad he now lives in Texas! 14:19 schuster @wunder Sioux Falls SD 14:19 huginn schuster: The current temperature in Sioux Falls, South Dakota is -7.0�C (7:56 AM CST on January 03, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: -14.0�C. Windchill: -14.0�C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Falling). 14:22 schuster just read this from the read back from Rangi - http://perladvent.org/2011/2011-12-22.html and am glad there are others smarter than me who understand what he was talking about :) 14:22 oleonard Hi schuster 14:23 schuster Hey oleonard! Happy New Year make it to the Gym or is today the "allow body to rebuild day?" 14:23 oleonard Today is "Hooray, I didn't eat any ice cream yet" day. 14:25 oleonard Later rescheduled and switched to "Oh no, I ate all the ice cream" day 14:25 schuster I understand! Good luck - I have some peppermint in the freezer at home... Boys made me do it! 14:25 magnuse lol 14:36 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6374] Use "size" as names/hash keys leads to an unexpected results when using Template::Toolkit (name of a virtual method there) <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6374> 14:38 jcamins_away schuster: interesting article. 14:39 schuster Glad someone understood it! Rangi posted it originally! I read cache blah blah blah some code blah blah blah cache.... 15:14 mbalmer good {eve|mor}ning 15:15 magnuse ooh, clever ;-) 15:28 skushner Hi..I'm getting the error "Koha error: The following fatal error has occurred: Can't call method "config" on unblessed reference at /home/koha/kohaclone/C4/Context.pm line 654. . anyone seen this. It's when I'm trying to install Koha using http://xxx.xxx.x.xx:8080..thanks, and happy new year... 15:29 skushner I think it might have something to do with a password for mysql db..but not sure. 15:31 oleonard skushner: I see an old Koha list thread which references the same error. Maybe one of the replies is relevant? http://lists.katipo.co.nz/public/koha/2010-January/022164.html 15:33 magnuse skushner: which version are you installing? 15:33 edveal Good morning everyone! I am working with the "Authorized Values" for lost and it seems that the "Description (OPAC)" field is being ignored in the OPAC. Anyone else seeing this or have any insight on it. I think it is connected to http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5533 15:33 huginn 04Bug 5533: critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, srdjan, ASSIGNED , marking item lost diff in two places 15:35 oleonard edveal: Are you sure it's a new bug rather than an omission? Where do you see the problem? 15:36 edveal No I am not sure... Whenever I put something in the "Description (OPAC)" field it does not showing in the OPAC. 15:37 edveal I have duplicated this on at least two instances of Koha. 15:37 skushner magnuse: git 3.04.00 15:42 nengard question about SELECT DISTINCT - is it selecting distinct versions of all fields queried? So if I do SELECT DISTINCT borrowernumber, issuedate is it getting only distinct borrowernumber/issuedate combos? or only distict borrowerumbers? 15:47 kf hm not sure 15:48 kf Iw ould try it 15:48 kf out 15:48 kf perhaps you need () 15:49 magnuse "DISTINCT specifies removal of duplicate rows from the result set." http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.5/en/select.html 15:49 magnuse i'd say "distinct borrowernumber/issuedate combos" - but i'd experiment a little before i made up my mind... ;-) 15:51 kf and I think you might need distinct (.... ) or disctint, distinct... 15:51 kf not sure 15:51 kf trying it out with an easy example will show :) 15:53 oleonard edveal: Bug 4173? 15:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4173 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, Statuses not appearing in the OPAC 15:54 libsysguy morning #Koha 15:55 libsysguy i did an update this morning and I get an error in /koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/members/moremember.tt 15:55 libsysguy anybody else see it? 15:56 kf hm 15:56 kf waht happens? 15:56 edveal oleonard: doesn't look like it has been addressed in a while? Might you have any insight on it resolution? 15:56 libsysguy Template process failed: file error - parse error 15:57 libsysguy unexpected end of input in Templates.pm :-/ 15:57 kf hm not good 15:57 kf master? 15:57 wahanui it has been said that master is for 3.6 15:57 kf no local changes? 15:57 oleonard edveal: I think at that time it may have been decided that a generic "item lost" was sufficient in the OPAC, I'm not sure. If so, I'm not sure the "OPAC description" option was taken into consideration 15:57 kf not looking at a translation? 15:58 libsysguy i just checked that file out from master 15:58 libsysguy no I don't think im looking for a translation kf 15:58 kf at :) a translated file 15:58 kf because that's ususally my problem 15:58 libsysguy hmm 15:58 libsysguy ok interesting 15:58 wahanui interesting is, like, good 15:59 edveal oleonard: Thanks 15:59 kf so it's the account detail tab? 15:59 libsysguy it looks like when i look up the name ABHIDNYA GHUGE i get an error 15:59 libsysguy but when i look up travis its ok 15:59 kf ok 15:59 kf sadly 15:59 libsysguy so maybe it is a translation thing 15:59 kf I was the last to change that file... 15:59 oleonard libsysguy: can you paste the whole error? http://paste.koha-community.org/ 16:00 kf http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=history;f=koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/members/moremember.tt;h=178529245e1d3b12c27b1cdca9a3d6b7b7f712f2;hb=1730e180cdbe11a7878ddfab54cec7291d12f430 16:00 libsysguy http://paste.koha-community.org/181?tx=on&submit=Format+it%21 16:00 libsysguy pastebot hates me 16:01 tcohen is it possible to try to merge and solve problems in the merge using git-bz? 16:01 libsysguy so kf i can do a git blame :p jk jk 16:01 tcohen or have to go the git -3 way only? 16:01 kf I am confessing to have touched it... willingly! 16:02 libsysguy hehe 16:02 ebegin reading the emails on the koha list, I was wondering if there is a way to prevents patrons to create public lists ? 16:02 tcohen any git-bz guru? 16:02 nengard ebegin there is not 16:02 kf ebegin: no, but there is a bug for it 16:02 nengard there is a bug report on that 16:02 nengard jinx 16:03 nengard :) 16:03 ebegin :) 16:03 kf (and I forgot what I have to do now... again) 16:03 libsysguy kf it may not be your fault 16:04 libsysguy this may have been happening for awhile and i just now noticed :p 16:04 kf tcohen: git bz does no 3 way merge when applying and it doesn't deal with conflicts (only working with bugzilla) 16:04 tcohen ok, i marked the bug does not apply 16:04 tcohen and continuing the old way to propose a fix 16:04 tcohen (to the author) 16:05 oleonard libsysguy: What does the template in question look like? 16:05 reiveune bye 16:06 libsysguy what do you mean oleonard 16:06 kf tcohen: if git bz apply does not work it's always got to do a git am -i3u file <file in temp folder it created> 16:07 oleonard libsysguy: It would be easy to see if your copy of the template was corrupt for whatever reason if you pasted its contents 16:07 libsysguy well I just ran a git checkout HEAD moremember.tt 16:07 libsysguy so it should look just like master 16:07 libsysguy but i can certainly paste the file 16:07 libsysguy if you want to take a peek at it 16:08 kf gaetan_B++ asaurat++ 16:09 tcohen thanks kf 16:09 gaetan_B :) 16:09 kf libsysguy, oleonard: could the error be caused by the pl file not matching the template file? 16:09 asaurat :) 16:09 gaetan_B there's been some teamwork going on today :) 16:09 kf yep, fun watching :) 16:12 libsysguy kf would that explain why I can look up some names and not others? 16:14 kf something in the data of those 2 must be different 16:16 kf I mean the borrowers 16:16 libsysguy yeah i just looked up the broken patron in the database 16:17 libsysguy i don't see anything weird 16:17 kf hm the line refers to somehting with holds 16:17 kf does oone have holds and the other not? 16:17 libsysguy well the other patron was me and I don't have any holds but i think the other patron does 16:18 libsysguy they got an email notice and they are disputing it so I was going to look them up 16:19 libsysguy the broken patron has a 0 flag set 16:19 libsysguy is this that weird error that happened a while back with flags in the database 16:20 libsysguy where there was a patch to set something to NULL 16:20 asaurat bye ! 16:21 kf I think that's only for debarred 16:21 kf do you mean flags? because that's permissions and 0 probably right 16:21 libsysguy ok well mine were set to null 16:22 nengard what is the script you have to run to generate the borrowers file for the offline circ tool? I just noticed that it's not documented in the manual! 16:24 gaetan_B clrh: je viens de voir ça datant du 29/12 : http://mantis.biblibre.com/view.php?id=8606 16:24 gaetan_B ça vient de Babelio à priori ? 16:24 gaetan_B oops wrong channel :-X:-/ 16:30 clrh :) 16:53 sekjal opinion on where to add a Notes column to the Holds Queue? I was thinking at the end, but does anyone have a different idea? 16:57 hdl1 hi happy new year 16:57 jcamins Happy new year! 17:00 kf happy new year hdl :) 17:00 kf sekjal: what would the note be for? 17:01 sekjal kf: the hold note 17:01 kf ah 17:01 sekjal it's processed into the tmp_holdsqueue table, but not displayed 17:01 kf and on which page? the holds view on the record? or one of the reports? 17:01 sekjal view_holdsqueue.pl 17:02 kf hm 17:02 kf why don't we have a note field in reserves? 17:02 kf oh we have 17:03 kf reservenotes in reserves and notes in tmp_holdsqueue 17:03 hdl1 ok have fun folks 17:05 kf sekjal: I think I have no helpful ideas :( 17:05 sekjal I'll just make the note show on the far right of the Holds Queue table 17:10 gaetan_B bye ! 17:10 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7399] Holds Queue should show reserve notes <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7399> 17:56 cait hi again #koha 18:00 jwagner hi cait 18:02 cait hi jwagner - happy new year 18:03 jwagner and to you too 18:23 rangi morning 18:24 sekjal morning, rangi 18:24 jcamins It's too late for paul_p, isn't it? 18:24 rangi heya sekjal 18:25 jcamins Yeah, I see he left 50 minutes ago. 18:25 jcamins Good morning, rangi. 18:25 cait morning rangi :) 18:26 cait hi sekjal :) 18:26 cait could I ask you nicely to qa on the bug from yesterday? :) 18:27 cait bug 7394 18:27 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7394 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, NEW , Broken detail page for last link from result page 18:27 jcamins rangi: you'll be glad to know that eventually I figured out OO Perl. 18:27 sekjal cait: was looking at it this morning, but got distracted before i could git bz it down 18:29 * jcamins bugs sekjal about QAing bug 1633, and crosses that item off his to-do list for today. :) 18:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1633 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, kmkale, ASSIGNED , Add ability to take book cover images from local img db 18:30 jcamins sekjal: in case you hadn't guessed, that's on my "daily tasks" list. ;) 18:30 sekjal jcamins: I was wondering... 18:31 jcamins sekjal: so if you go on vacation, you'll get a lot of messages from huginn about it. ;) 18:31 jcamins (when you get back) 18:31 sekjal was just on vacation 18:31 sekjal not sure when the next will be 18:31 rangi jcamins: cool :) 18:31 sekjal a while, for sure 18:31 jcamins Yes, I put it on my to-do list starting yesterday. 18:32 cait lol 18:32 jcamins I'm trying to implement GTD, and to reinforce the habit, I've identified lots of easy tasks. 18:32 sekjal 7394 passed QA 18:32 rangi yay! 18:32 jcamins Like "drop sekjal a note about QAing my bugs." 18:33 jcamins And "Sign off on cait's patch" 18:33 rangi I hope to do some follow ups for it when I get a chance 18:33 cait jcamins: gtd is not bad, although I don't follow it all 18:38 rangi my stop bbiab 18:38 jcamins cait: I don't imagine I'll follow all of it, but I'm trying to do as much as I can. 18:39 cait having a next step list is really useful 18:39 cait like when oyu have that big task you don't know where to start and keep delaying it 18:39 cait 'what's the next step?' 18:41 patric imported marc data, koha seems to think my catalog's empty 18:41 patric log indicates that records were imported, search shows no results 18:44 cait did you set up the cronjobs for indexing? 18:45 patric no, used the debian package, and koha-create, which was supposed to do that for me, checking crontab now 18:45 cait ah 18:45 cait you might need to run another command to activate indexing 18:45 jcamins patric: it should be indexing. 18:45 jcamins Every ten minutes. 18:46 cait listen to him he knows ^^ :) 18:47 rangi you did the stage marc import, or uses bulkmarcimport.pl? 18:48 patric stage 18:48 rangi and you completed it eh? (did the import bit .. i always ask the simple questions) 18:49 patric Yes, it's status is now imported 18:49 rangi /etc/cron.d/koha-common is where the indexing lives 18:49 rangi just for kicks try this 18:50 rangi sudo /etc/init.d/koha-common restart 18:50 rangi will make sure zebrasrv is running 18:51 pastebot "patric" at 68.98.203.253 pasted "output of restart of koha-common" (4 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/182 18:51 skushner No, Owen..that wasn't it. 18:51 jcamins patric: you didn't have Zebra running. 18:51 jcamins patric: not sure why, but it wasn't running. 18:52 rangi should be all good from now though 18:52 patric thanks much 18:52 patric was about to start blindly restarting things until it did something different 18:53 patric so, wait ten minutes, and see if my catalog's populated? 18:53 skushner Still getting this error...anyone else have this problem? thanks. Hi..I'm getting the error "Koha error: The following fatal error has occurred: Can't call method "config" on unblessed reference at /home/koha/kohaclone/C4/Context.pm line 654. . anyone seen this. It's when I'm trying to install Koha using http://xxx.xxx.x.xx:8080.. 18:54 rangi hmm 18:54 rangi what version of Koha skushner ? 18:55 jcamins patric: it should be populated after the next time you pass a ten minute mark. 18:55 jcamins (2:00, 1:50, whatever... it depends what time your server thinks it is;) 18:56 * jcamins goes to make cookies. 18:56 skushner git 3.04.00 18:56 libsysguy ok so i know how to reset a single file via git but what if I wanted to reset all the .po files 18:56 rangi it should be populated now, it shouldnt need zebrasrv to reindex, but do a ps axf | grep "rebuild" 18:56 rangi it might still be running 18:57 rangi skushner: in master i dont have call to config on line 654 18:57 libsysguy seen kf 18:57 wahanui kf was last seen on #koha 1 hours, 52 minutes and 42 seconds ago, saying: sekjal: I think I have no helpful ideas :( [Tue Jan 3 17:04:45 2012] 18:58 cait I am here libsysguy 18:58 libsysguy hey cait :) 18:58 cait but about your git question... better ask rangi :) 18:58 libsysguy remember that problem I was having earlier 18:58 cait oh yes 18:58 libsysguy i found something interesting 18:58 libsysguy if you do the search from the circulation section you don't get the error 18:58 libsysguy but if you just search from the main page you get that template error 19:00 jcamins rangi: you should get one of your interns to turn C4::XSLT into a T::T plugin. 19:00 cait heh 19:01 rangi heh 19:01 rangi i want to train them, not kill them :) 19:01 rangi but actually no, that wouldnt be so bad 19:01 * jcamins doesn't have any interns, so he has to delegate to them. 19:01 rangi maybe february 19:01 jcamins rangi: that'd be pretty easy, actually, I think. 19:01 jcamins rangi: and it'd be one less thing in C4. 19:02 rangi yep 19:02 jcamins (them, in this case, being rangi's interns;) 19:02 rangi duncan got stolen actually, im done to 1, chrisdothall 19:02 rangi done=down 19:02 patric zebra logs are empty 19:03 cait oh 19:03 rangi (duncan is now on the drupal team) 19:03 cait I was wondeirng 19:03 cait and to drupal 19:03 rangi full time employee 19:03 cait ts. 19:03 cait oh 19:03 rangi the unit tests didnt break him, so he got hired :) 19:04 cait heh 19:04 jcamins Heh. 19:04 rangi ibeardslee: did you ever put up the photos of the academy set up? 19:07 patric it is now populated, with records that don't make sense, I assume that's a marc to koha mapping thing 19:08 cait hm no it shouldn't 19:08 pastebot "patric" at 68.98.203.253 pasted "results of a search for "a" in catalog" (180 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/183 19:08 cait you shouldn't have to change the mappings 19:08 cait are you using marc21? 19:08 cait and your records are marc21 too? 19:08 cait it looks like they don't have a 245$a = title 19:08 patric That's what I think 19:09 cait I would not recomment changing the mappings - and it wll probably not help your display problem 19:09 cait recommend 19:09 jcamins rangi: if you decide you do want to kill someone with Koha, have them fix C4::Search. :P 19:09 jcamins I agree with cait. Changing the mapping will just make things worse. 19:09 jcamins Much worse. 19:09 ibeardslee rangi: no I didn't, didn't get them .. and probably should have got one yesterday while the laptops disks were being wiped 19:10 patric checking mapping 19:10 cait where did you get the records from? 19:11 rangi jcamins: theres no fixing, there's only building Koha::Search :) 19:11 rangi ibeardslee: ahh hmm did chrisdothall take the photos? 19:12 ibeardslee he did, probably should have bugged him about it 19:12 cait is he gone too? 19:12 rangi no he's sitting right next to me 19:12 cait libsysguy: both links are to the same template with same parameters? 19:12 * cait waves at chrisdothall 19:15 jcamins rangi: that's what I meant. 19:16 jcamins I meant "fix" as in what one does to pets. 19:16 rangi :) 19:33 patric I used marcedit and a text export from our old system to generate those records 19:34 patric Is there a quick way to flush those records, they look useless, I'm planning to go back to marcedit and recreate them 19:39 rangi hey wizzyrea 19:39 wahanui I LIKE SCIENCE! 19:39 wizzyrea hi there 19:39 rangi pirates! 19:39 wizzyrea Ninjas! 19:42 libsysguy cait no seperate templates 19:42 libsysguy sorry I had to step away 19:43 nengard what's the command i should type to get the holds queue to populate on my test server? 19:44 nengard i'm in the kohaclone directory 19:44 rangi look at misc/cronjobs/crontab.example 19:45 jwagner You mean to build the holds queue? kohaclone/misc/cronjobs/holds/build_holds_queue.pl 19:45 nengard yes that's the one 19:46 patric how can I dump my catalog? 19:46 cait do you want to dump your entire database or only the records? 19:46 rangi nengard: the way to call it is in that crontab.example file 19:46 cait patric: and you can get the wrong records out of your system easily by undoing the import 19:47 nengard thanks all 19:47 cait on the manage staded marc records page 19:51 jcamins I love it when a cooking disaster leads to delicious cooking. 19:52 jcamins *cookies 19:52 jcamins A cooking disaster leads to delicious cookies. 19:57 oleonard jcamins: Like that time I was walking with an open jar of peanut butter, and ran into that cute girl carrying an oversized chocolate bar? 19:58 oleonard The chocolate bar fell right into the peanut butter, and I was all "You got chocolate in my peanut butter!" I was so angry. 19:59 wizzyrea You got your peanut butter on my chocolate! 19:59 oleonard Oh sorry, I guess I was the one with the chocolate. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJLDF6qZUX0 20:00 wizzyrea how very 70's of you 20:01 jcamins oleonard: exactly. 20:01 patric btw, initial diagnosis was entirely correct, didn't have a 245$a, had it under 130$a 20:01 patric tyvm for the undo import 20:02 oleonard Did people in the 70's really not know that chocolate and peanut butter went well together? I seriously wonder about that. 20:03 wizzyrea oh sorry 80's 20:03 jcamins wizzyrea: with that hair, I think you could be forgiven for the error. 20:03 wizzyrea hm true 20:04 wizzyrea and that shirt. 20:05 cait hm 20:05 cait I am looking for a software to create a newsletter 20:05 cait html mails with some formatting, pictures etc. 20:06 cait anyone an idea? 20:07 jcamins cait: a butterly? 20:07 jcamins *butterfly 20:07 jcamins real programmers? 20:07 liw Mel 20:07 jcamins wahanui: real programmers is <reply> You should check out http://xkcd.com/378/ 20:07 wahanui OK, jcamins. 20:08 jcamins real programmers? 20:08 wahanui You should check out http://xkcd.com/378/ 20:08 cait jcamins: no teasing please, it's not for me 20:08 jcamins cait: aww, butterflies are always a good idea. 20:08 cait cookies in the shape of butterflies? 20:09 jcamins cait: however, can't you just use a basic HTML editor? 20:09 cait the person asking about it has problems with that 20:09 cait i could 20:09 jcamins Ah. Hrm. 20:10 jcamins PHP List? 20:11 rangi liw: was mel a suggestion for cait ? 20:12 liw rangi, no, a knee-jerk reaction to the words "real programmer" 20:13 liw cait, can you expand on what kind of newsletter, what format it should be sent out as, and what medium it should be sent out as? e.g., does it get sent via e-mail, or is it on a web page? or perhaps printed on paper and sent by post? 20:14 rangi liw: ahh :-) 20:14 cait from what I got told html mail, because it should hav eformatting, pictures and things... and via mail to customers 20:14 cait and I think you are teasing me finishing reading your questions... *sigh* 20:14 * cait goes to hide somewhere in bugzilla 20:14 liw cait, I'm not teasing -- sorry 20:14 * cait peeks out 20:15 jcamins liw: what do you have against butterflies? 20:16 liw cait, do you need a tool to create the html content, or mailing list software to do the actual sending? is something like Thunderbird's HTML formatting suitable? 20:16 cait I guess I am going to suggest that 20:16 cait and it's about creating the mail, some wysiwyg 20:16 liw cait, I'm asking a lot of questions because I want to narrow down the search space to be able to provide a useful answer 20:16 cait thx :) 20:17 cait I think what I need to do is create a template for him to use with thunderbird or outlook 20:17 liw cait, and some people still generate paper newsletters and send them by post, even if it's getting rarer, and since I happen to know about those, I thought I'd ask 20:17 cait the paper bit irritated me a bit :) 20:18 jcamins Help! How do I cancel a merge that went horribly wrong? 20:18 cait git? 20:18 wahanui i guess git is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git 20:18 liw cait, I haven't used the HTML formatting bit of Thuderbird, but I know it's there 20:18 cait I never wrote a html mail all my life I think :) 20:18 cait hm perhaps by accident answering one 20:18 wizzyrea i'm pretty sure I did once accidentally 20:18 jcamins Got it, never mind. 20:19 liw jcamins, I have nothing against butterflies, though I now have a vision of a series of romance novels of a vampire butterfly 20:20 liw rangi, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mel_Kaye 20:21 jcamins Interesting. 20:21 wahanui interesting is sometimes bad or sometimes good 20:21 * jcamins never heard of Mel Kaye before. 20:21 rangi liw: ahhh *click* 20:21 cait liw: thx for your help :) I think I will investiage what you can do using thunderbird and outlook 20:21 rangi now it makes sense 20:22 cait hm investigate 20:22 liw cait, no problem, glad to be of help 20:22 cait liw++ 20:22 * liw now feels he can stay for another little while on the channel 20:22 * magnus_afk waves 20:23 cait now jcamins is really here for one time and magnuse is waving while afk ;) 20:23 jcamins :) 20:24 magnus_afk things are lining up neatly? 20:28 * magnus_afk wanders off again 20:57 patric waiting for the new import (with 245$a entries) to index 20:57 patric btw, help in here seems to be top notch, thanks again 20:59 cait :) 21:00 cait you will perhaps have to change some other fields too from the copy you showed earlier 21:12 eythian http://thehairpin.com/2011/09/fake-books-i-asked-librarians-for 21:15 rangi hehe 21:16 cait heya eythian :) 21:16 cait happy new year! 21:16 eythian hallo cait 21:17 eythian same to you :D 21:18 patric Happiness!! 21:18 patric It looks all professional and stuff, not all like I hacked it together (shhh!) 21:19 cait lol 21:20 rangi patric: tell you a secret 21:20 rangi library science is the kingdom of hacks :) 21:20 rangi and IT related to library science is even more so :) 21:20 jcamins eythian: awesome! 21:21 jcamins @quote get 123 21:21 huginn jcamins: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) 21:21 rangi patric: koha is something we hacked together in 3 months to solve a y2k issue ... ;) 21:21 jcamins patric: in 16 words, rangi summarized the entirety of library technology. 21:21 rangi lol 21:22 libsysguy ok random question if i have <span property="dc:title"> 21:22 libsysguy how do i select that with css 21:22 rangi libsysguy: id give it an id 21:22 rangi but thats my answer to everything 21:22 * libsysguy curses drupals dynamic generation 21:22 jcamins libsysguy: property? 21:23 jcamins That doesn't seem right. 21:23 libsysguy yeah drupal uses them a lot 21:23 jcamins Huh. 21:23 jcamins Never heard of it. 21:23 jcamins Part of XHTML2. 21:23 libsysguy i guess i could just select the parent then the sub element 21:23 libsysguy but i was hoping i could be lazy 21:39 patric I feel so at home here. 21:41 cait trying to rewrite html generated with word into real html... word-- 21:44 paul_p bye world, i'm heading to bed 21:44 paul_p (melia, just QAed 6488 !) 21:44 melia thank you, paul_p! 21:45 eythian cait: I'd wonder if it were easier to use something like catdoc to do it for you (although, it won't give you HTML) 21:46 cait it's ok 21:46 cait I am almost there 21:46 cait but it's impossible to get even simple things like the font color from the code 21:46 cait color:windowtext 21:46 patric There are decent html editors out there, just because word's a flaming pile doesn't mean you need to avoid all of them. 21:47 eythian e.g. vim 21:48 jcamins eythian++ 21:48 jcamins paul_p: wait! If you haven't left yet, I have a quick question! 21:48 cait I am using an editor 21:48 cait plain 21:48 jcamins Which branch for the solr code? 21:49 jcamins dev/solr wip/solr or something else? 21:49 eythian jcamins: bit branch -a | grep solr ? 21:50 eythian *git 21:50 jcamins eythian: there are a whole bunch of solr branches. 21:50 eythian oh ah 21:50 jcamins eythian: leaves a fellow baffled. 21:50 jcamins ;) 21:53 jcamins Darn. Missed him. 21:53 jcamins I wonder why he didn't get my @later. 21:53 patric thanks again everybody, works peachy 21:53 jcamins @later tell paul_p Which branch should I be looking at for the solr development? dev/solr, wip/solr, or something else entirely? 21:53 huginn jcamins: The operation succeeded. 22:24 ebegin I never saw a way to do a permanent loan. It that possible ? other than setting the return date way far in the future) 22:26 wizzyrea ebgin: I have never tried it, but can you set a circ rule without a period? 22:27 wizzyrea I just did it and it set a rule with 0 as the period - let me see what that does 22:27 sekjal ebegin: interesting... 22:27 wahanui interesting is good 22:27 sekjal if we could get permanent loans to work, we'd have a mechanism for making sales 22:28 sekjal so we could handle not only libraries, but retail establishments as well 22:28 wizzyrea hmm 22:28 sekjal I've always wanted to use Koha for an independent video store (not that there are many left) 22:28 * wizzyrea wonders what a negative period would do 22:29 wizzyrea well you could set a hard due date out like 99zillion years 22:29 ebegin in a another system, NEVER is a choice for the date due 22:30 ebegin I think that dec, 31th, 9999 should do the job for a while :) 22:30 wizzyrea :D 22:30 wizzyrea it would indeed. 22:30 wizzyrea just in case you were wondering 22:30 wizzyrea a negative period does in fact work as you would expect, and makes the item due in the past. 22:30 ebegin :) 22:31 * wizzyrea becomes a time traveler 22:32 cait nice to now :) 22:44 bag @wunder 93109 22:44 huginn bag: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 22.8�C (2:43 PM PST on January 03, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 30.10 in 1019.2 hPa (Steady). 22:44 bag @wunder 94102 22:44 huginn bag: The current temperature in SOMA - Near Van Ness, San Francisco, California is 16.9�C (2:44 PM PST on January 03, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Pressure: 30.28 in 1025.3 hPa (Steady). 22:45 rangi @wunder nzwn 22:45 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 19.0�C (11:00 AM NZDT on January 04, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady). 22:47 bag sekjal where you able to work out a time for ago43 to come visit? 22:47 bag sekjal: you can answer me in a PM :) 22:47 bag hi #koha :) 22:47 rangi heh :) 22:48 bag heh wrong window fail ;) 22:48 rangi ive seen far worse 22:48 bag oh rangi it looks like I've got you beat for todays temp :) 22:49 bag yeah I've done worse like - This is my password world - please hack my email :D 22:52 rangi http://cuteoverload.com/2011/12/31/top-ten-cutest-photos-of-2011/ 22:58 bag what no picture of Aloo? 22:59 rangi hehe you shoulda submitted one :) 23:24 rangi i had an idea 23:24 rangi we should put a unimarc, marc21 and normarc record of the newsletter up 23:25 rangi and update it with each one, to add a new item, (the item having the url to it in it) 23:25 rangi so people can add the newsletter to their catalogue easily 23:26 rangi and magnuse can put up some rdf tuple, or triple or something too :) 23:27 rangi trea runs away at the idea of cataloguing 23:35 trea-away hey, i resemble that remark 23:35 trea-away :P 23:35 trea-away ok bye 23:40 rhcl rangi: are you anywhere near Blue Cliffs Beach, or is that south island 23:41 rangi bottom of the south island 23:41 rangi near tuatapere 23:41 rangi the orca vs shark thing? 23:41 rhcl saw the reporting on whales vs sharks 23:41 rangi yep 23:42 rangi orcas kicked their arse 23:58 wizzyrea "orcas kicked their arse"