Time Nick Message 23:57 jcamins_away rangi: so you'll have to look at what's in it to determine what the data stored in it is. 23:55 huginn` jcamins_away: A note that is used when more than one bibliographic work is contained in a physical item at the time of publishing, release, issue, or execution. The works usually have distinctive titles and lack a collective title. (Repeatable) [a,5,6,8] 23:55 jcamins_away @marc 501 23:55 jcamins_away rangi: some libraries use it for a local "With" note. 23:54 jcamins_away rangi: local note. 23:46 huginn` eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 14.0�C (12:00 PM NZDT on December 16, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Steady). 23:46 eythian @wunder wellington, nz 23:17 huginn` rangi: unknown tag 591 23:17 rangi @marc 591 23:16 huginn` rangi: unknown tag 519 23:16 rangi @marc 519 22:32 jcamins Good night, #koha. 22:04 talljoy ok 22:02 jcamins talljoy: actionlog 22:02 talljoy anyone know where the system logs are pulling from? Does it create the data on the fly from the borrower tables or are they stored in their own tables? 21:55 magnus_afk g'night 21:53 slef zz time 21:52 rangi coffee time 21:51 slef hehe 21:50 jcamins talljoy: never mind my suggestion that rhcl mentioned an rfid library. 21:49 rhcl No, I don't recall talking about anybody else using rfid 21:46 cait ok :) 21:46 slef autocorrect-- 21:45 slef cait: sorry I meant 'bye cait' 21:45 jcamins Oh, and I think Los Gatos. 21:45 slef talljoy: yes but I don't have access any more. 21:44 jcamins talljoy: some NEKLS libraries, and I think rhcl was talking about someone else. 21:44 cait talljoy: 2 of our libraires use rfid too 21:44 wahanui i guess slef is an encyclopedia of FOSS knowledge 21:44 cait yes slef? 21:44 wizzyrea talljoy: nekls 21:44 slef cait! 21:44 talljoy Hi all. Anyone know of any Koha library using RFID? 21:44 jcamins Bye. 21:44 wizzyrea gnite cait 21:44 slef bye bait 21:43 cait good night all :) 21:43 cait timezones-- 21:42 wizzyrea yes, I think that's the one we went to 21:42 rangi and another one 21:42 rangi the korean bbq one 21:42 rangi korean ones 21:42 rangi there are 2 karaoke ones near us 21:42 rhcl I'm going to move to NZ so I can eat Korean food and go fishing in the big pond. 21:42 rangi yes 21:42 * wizzyrea remembers such a place but doesn't remember the name 21:41 cait karaoke! 21:41 wizzyrea is there a korean place with karaoke that's kind of back from the street near where you are? 21:39 slef heh. Bed Bath and Beyonce 21:39 wizzyrea nom 21:37 rangi http://www.menumania.co.nz/restaurants/browse/wellington-city/korean all within 10 min radius of catalyst 21:37 rangi http://www.menumania.co.nz/restaurants/country-house-restaurant <-- where eythian and I ate yesterday 21:36 slef never actually made them. My pizza bases are always too deep 21:35 rhcl 오징어 and ì¥ ê³ ê¸° ...I miss eating them 21:33 wizzyrea I admit I had not tried calzones at home yet 21:33 jcamins Yup. 21:33 wizzyrea and can be stuffed with delicious things. 21:33 jcamins And they're almost impossible to screw up. 21:32 jcamins The crimping the edges is tricky, but the rest is pretty easy. 21:32 wizzyrea calzones. sounds like a lovely dinner. 21:32 wizzyrea oh yes, I neglected "stuffing" 21:31 jcamins It was calzones. 21:31 jcamins Oh! I remember! 21:31 wizzyrea ^.^ got it 21:30 jcamins So I'm telling you in the hopes that when I mention some recipe I wanted to tell #koha about, you'll know why. ;) 21:29 jcamins wizzyrea: I'm liable to remember randomly, but not remember *why* I'm remembering it. 21:29 wizzyrea if it involved pounding or rolling or dipping, that's ideal 21:29 wizzyrea <3 21:29 wizzyrea jcamins: hehe - thank you? 21:29 jcamins wizzyrea: I don't know, but I saw a recipe that would be great for cooking with a little one the other day. Sadly, I've forgotten what it was. 21:29 rangi cya oleonard 21:29 wizzyrea bye 21:29 * oleonard quits for the day 21:28 wizzyrea libsysguy maybe? 21:28 wizzyrea besides me 21:28 wizzyrea ? 21:28 wizzyrea who was it that was looking for autoprint for chrome/ium 21:26 rangi heh 21:25 * trea sighs 21:25 trea tries to make a joke about trademarks. too soon? 21:24 * wizzyrea can hear the enthusiasm in your voice. 21:24 oleonard Indefinite detentions, internet censorship. Yay America. 21:24 oleonard ...but the fact that it has made it this far is pretty sad. 21:24 oleonard There's still time to hope. 21:23 slef but if they're debating it now, I guess what's done is done 21:23 slef good luck against it! 21:21 slef I'll look at it tomoz 21:21 slef yeah it's hard to use a browser from this location just now 21:20 oleonard https://www.eff.org/issues/coica-internet-censorship-and-copyright-bill 21:20 slef shame 21:19 oleonard Yes 21:19 slef oh this is big media rather than porn motivated? 21:18 slef took out wikipedia for days, a year or two ago 21:18 oleonard ...including foreign-owned ones 21:18 jcamins oleonard: only much worse. 21:18 oleonard It would give "rights-holders" (media companies) lots of new tools for pulling "infringing" material (and whole web sites) off the internet 21:18 slef or the voluntary but not really always uk one 21:17 oleonard SOPA is the US's version of the Great Firewall of China slef 21:17 wizzyrea good luck doing that once you pass this law, guy. 21:17 oleonard No, but following @EFFLive 21:16 slef which says? 21:16 jcamins oleonard: watching the SOPA deliberations? 21:16 oleonard https://twitter.com/#!/SteveKingIA/status/147371129177255936 21:14 cait me neither :) 21:13 rangi it should be in the minutes/log 21:13 rangi hehe 21:13 * jcamins just said he couldn't follow the conversation. ;) 21:13 jcamins cait: oh, maybe they are? 21:13 cait that was about the database numbers... and I thought they were going to fix it (irc meeting?) 21:12 wizzyrea >.> 21:12 jcamins rangi: yeah, cait pointed it out to paul_p, but I couldn't follow the conversation. 21:12 wizzyrea oh, you mean the version number 21:12 wizzyrea or navigating away 21:12 wizzyrea I think he keeps closing the tab 21:12 cait yep, that would be good 21:12 rangi jcamins: oh .. we should fix that then 21:11 jcamins He's not having much luck with Mibbit, is he? 21:11 jcamins rangi: except right now. 3.7.x still says 3.6.x, doesn't it? 21:10 rangi its an unstable version .. even (3.4.x 3.6.x etc) are stable releases 21:10 rangi the rule with koha, is if the second number (5 in this case) is odd 21:10 rangi but yeah upgrading to an actual released version in the future is no bad thing 21:10 mib_042qfi omg.....I saw the boxes for check off- the "delete items" is on the bottom of the list ....duh. Thanks for your help. 21:09 rangi (before you try to upgrade) 21:09 rangi and you definitely dont go the remove selected records button showing? 21:09 wizzyrea ^^ 21:09 * jcamins would suggest upgrading to 3.6.1. 21:09 wizzyrea but it's long fixed 21:09 * jcamins too 21:08 wizzyrea i sort of recall a bug about that 21:08 jcamins Hm, that's right after the Template Toolkit switchover. 21:08 mib_042qfi back again :) Koha version: 3.05.00.010 21:07 oleonard Lots of Koha users seem to be oblivious of the Koha community 21:07 rangi yeah highly likely 21:07 jcamins Bets that they're using Koha 2.something on Windows? 21:06 * jcamins ponders. 21:06 jcamins You'd think they would've e-mailed the list, or something. 21:05 jcamins Huh. 21:05 rangi click the checkbox, and click remove selected records 21:05 rangi with checkboxes next to them 21:05 rangi also, if you click on the list, you should get a list of all the items in it 21:05 rangi open another tab :) 21:04 PedroT let me see if i can go back without kicking myself out...tx 21:04 rangi then it should have the remove button too 21:04 rangi but if its 3.05.00 21:04 * wizzyrea seems a bit wide eyed today 21:04 rangi 3.05.something.somethingelse 21:04 rangi hmm do you have the full number? 21:04 wizzyrea oh hi wb :) 21:03 PedroT kicked my self out...regarding my list question - we have version 3.05 (?). 21:03 wizzyrea O.O 21:03 rangi what???? 21:03 rangi https://www.odesk.com/jobs/~~3fe10cfd4f1acdb6?source=rss 21:03 wizzyrea O.o 21:03 rangi or you could quit 21:03 maximep :S 21:00 rangi i get an option to remove selected records 21:00 rangi in the staff interface 21:00 rangi the about page 21:00 Hukk Not sure- where could I find that info? 20:59 rangi what version of koha? 20:59 Hukk The only option seems to be to leave it there or delete the whole list 20:58 Hukk I am putting lists on my library's catalog. I put one title on the wrong list and can't figure out how to delete it 20:57 rangi (and thats already mostly used by piwik and bugzilla) 20:56 rangi more than the 512 i have 20:56 cait what does it need? 20:56 rangi not enough ram to run etherpad on my linode 20:56 cait hi Hukk 20:56 Hukk Anyone home? 20:56 rangi nope 20:51 jcamins Yup. :) 20:51 wizzyrea lots of them :) 20:51 wizzyrea http://www.xtranormal.com/search/?q=library 20:50 jcamins I just found one by another library. I'll use that one. 20:49 wizzyrea hmm 20:49 jcamins Thanks. I swear I remember one of your librarians doing a "how to find journals" or something like that. 20:48 wizzyrea [off] http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/6840909/whats-the-deal-with-kohaorg?page=1 also this 20:48 trea strangely apropo 20:47 wizzyrea today I referred to mucking about in cataloging as "going to the gamma quadrant' 20:47 wizzyrea http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/7211409/swkls-tech-day?page=1 20:46 jcamins wizzyrea: heh. That's pretty cute. 20:46 wizzyrea i'm trying to think of which instructional videos we did 20:46 ibeardslee jcamins: don't think so 20:46 wizzyrea http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/6875651/library-nerds 20:45 jcamins ibeardslee: does Facebook do OpenID? 20:45 trea jealous! still missing te papa 20:45 * wizzyrea thinks 20:45 wizzyrea instruction videos... 20:45 rangi family fun day with nzso at te papa tomorrow 20:44 jcamins wizzyrea: do you have a link to the library instruction videos NEKLS did wit xtranormal? 20:44 rangi http://wotzon.com/eventlisting.php?event_id=5019912 20:44 ibeardslee facebook is *not* a universal authenticator! 20:44 wizzyrea I approve of this 20:44 rangi speaking of nzso 20:44 * ibeardslee went to listen the NZSO on soundcloud last night, so installed the android app for it .. wanted me to login via facebook 20:44 rangi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6SBsbjgyc0 <-- now with dancing robots 20:43 trea yes 20:43 rangi also, i love how you can just totally make up genres on soundcloud 20:43 ibeardslee mbalmer: yes that's the minimum 20:43 trea that is killin 20:43 rangi i love lazer hip-hop massive 20:43 jcamins ibeardslee: it's always between happy hour somewhere. 20:43 * ibeardslee had a boozy lunch with a supplier on tuesday .. wasn't very enthused about when when I got back into the office at 4pm 20:43 mbalmer ibeardslee, some timezones do 30 minutes offsets 20:43 * cait too 20:43 * wizzyrea walks to the other room 20:43 jcamins ibeardslee: true. 20:42 wizzyrea ^^ would pay to see that IRL 20:42 * trea gets out his giant Flava Flava alarm clock necklace and shutter shades. 20:42 ibeardslee at 5:15, it's not 5:00 anywhere because timezones don't do 15 minutes 20:42 cait :) 20:42 cait oh... sorry 20:42 wizzyrea goes quite well with the SOPA hearings 20:42 rangi :) 20:42 rangi we'll be finished lunch by then silly 20:42 rangi that starts at 4 20:42 cait what happaned to beer o clock? 20:41 rangi http://soundcloud.com/bobby-c-sound-tv/shut-em-down-bobby-c-sound-tv 20:41 rangi also 20:41 mbalmer mmm, steak and beer... 20:41 cait jcamins: and wrap the fudge to send to germany? 20:41 rangi steak and beer 20:41 ibeardslee jcamins: actually not really 20:41 rangi to go to the pub for lunch 20:41 cait good reason 20:41 rangi yes 20:41 jcamins cait: to go home and make fudge? 20:41 trea because they can 20:41 jcamins It's always 5 o'clock somewhere, right? 20:41 cait why? 20:41 cait :) 20:41 trea noice 20:41 wizzyrea I approve of this. 20:41 rangi level 7 at catalyst does anyway 20:40 cait oh 20:40 trea it's friday somewhere. Where "somewhere = NZ" 20:40 rangi and we stop at 1pm today 20:40 cait or both! 20:40 jcamins cait: or December. 20:40 rangi yes 20:40 cait hm must be friday 20:40 trea rabble rabble rabble 20:40 jcamins Also, the ice wouldn't last. 20:40 trea oh, then we're talking about something else then 20:40 wizzyrea ice either. 20:40 wahanui oleonard: what? 20:40 oleonard wahanui: When bots start eating chocolate, that's when the war with machines begins 20:40 jcamins trea: I don't know, I think highball glasses might not work so well as a fudge flavor. 20:39 kathryn hello jcamins, and all your cheerful selves! 20:39 wahanui chocolate is finite, we ate it all :) 20:39 rangi and chocolate 20:39 trea let the record show my stalwart support for Irish cream, and it's constituents; ice and highball glasses. 20:38 * oleonard takes a strong pro position on these essential political issues, and condemns those who oppose him. 20:36 jcamins oleonard: did I ask you your stance on Irish cream, raspberry, and walnuts? 20:36 * jcamins waves to kathryn 20:35 kathryn hi there trea 20:34 trea hi kathryn 20:33 kathryn heya cait and wizzyrea :) 20:32 wizzyrea hi kathryn :) 20:32 cait hi kathryn 20:29 rangi hehe 20:29 ibeardslee sigh scrollback 20:29 rangi yep 20:29 ibeardslee rangi: have you been talking with francios about etherpad? 20:28 rangi yeah it worked well for that 20:28 wizzyrea like the notices rewrite 20:28 wizzyrea :D 20:28 wizzyrea collaborative RFP'ing 20:28 rangi if i cant someone could try on their server and ill point dns there 20:28 jcamins What would it be used for? 20:28 rangi but we'll see 20:28 rangi may not be able to, uses a bunch of ram 20:28 rangi well i couldnt get it stable 20:27 * jcamins didn't know there was an etherpad.koha-community.org. 20:26 wizzyrea woohoo! 20:26 rangi but now i can resurrect etherpad.koha-community.org 20:26 rangi he doesnt get into work till 10 or 11 20:26 rangi about now 20:25 wizzyrea good lord does he ever sleep 20:25 rangi http://feeding.cloud.geek.nz/2011/12/installing-etherpad-on-debianubuntu.html 20:24 rangi francois++ #again 20:11 mbalmer chris_n, tnx fer url 20:10 mbalmer oleonard, switzerland. 19:59 huginn` jcamins: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 4.0�C (8:54 PM CET on December 15, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Windchill: 4.0�C. Pressure: 29.93 in 1013.4 hPa (Steady). 19:59 jcamins @wunder konstanz 19:52 trea #koha++ 19:52 trea i defer to your judgement 19:52 jcamins You're looking at an old server, and some of those are... problematic. 19:52 trea fair enough 19:52 cait yep 19:52 trea s/i/i'm 19:52 trea lol, i guessing you all think i should reindex. :P 19:51 jcamins trea: has the server been reindexed fully since the suppressed index was added? 19:51 rangi or do you have to edit them first? 19:50 rangi does the imported one show up 19:50 wizzyrea hehe I think that's a given ;) 19:50 rangi if you try a full reindex 19:50 rangi maybe they are weird 19:50 trea http://screencast.com/t/v2E4waTvokYC 19:50 trea Framework test looks fine: 19:50 trea http://screencast.com/t/sen3sg4Y1c 19:50 trea Imported - Not Suppressed: 19:50 trea http://screencast.com/t/od29OTab 19:50 trea Manually Added - Suppressed: 19:49 wizzyrea and not original cataloged records 19:49 jcamins Hello. 19:49 wizzyrea but why would it happen only on imported records 19:49 rangi mtj++ 19:49 rangi i really quite like the timeline in the about page 19:49 cait jcamins_away: hey! 19:49 cait me too 19:48 wahanui indexing is done by Zebra. 19:48 jcamins_away Indexing. 19:48 rangi i totally blame indexing then 19:47 trea yes. it does in fact seem to work when that happens 19:46 cait does it work when you open, edit another field and save? 19:42 trea that was my first thought as well cait. the more i dig into this the less sure i am 19:39 wahanui indexing is done by Zebra. 19:39 cait indexing? 19:32 trea it is, oddly enough 19:32 cait is the value in the marc the same for both? 19:31 cait never used it, sorry 19:31 trea has anyone seen issues with suppression not being honored after a record import, but will honor it when adding records manually? 19:31 cait :) 19:31 cait nice 19:30 wizzyrea how was it? 19:29 cait we were at the xmas market 19:29 wizzyrea I like ok :) 19:29 trea :D 19:29 cait but overall ok :) 19:28 cait frozen 19:28 trea cait! how are you? 19:27 cait hi trea :) 19:22 wizzyrea year, even. 19:22 wizzyrea I suspect that I had not had direct experience with breeding farm references in the code last ear. 19:21 wizzyrea >.> 19:21 cait lol 19:21 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6142] CanBookBeReserved function is redefined in C4/ILSDI/Utility.pm <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6142> 19:21 wizzyrea but... for dirty reasons 19:21 wizzyrea probably so 19:21 rangi apparently it made you lol about a year ago too 19:20 * wizzyrea feels enlightened 19:20 wizzyrea i always wondered why it was called that! 19:20 rangi heh 19:20 wizzyrea that explains SO MUCH. 19:20 rangi sadly not 19:20 wizzyrea OH *breeding farm* 19:20 cait 2004... and nothing changed 19:19 cait heh 19:19 rangi i shoulda linked to that in my email 19:19 rangi http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz/2004/03/31/the-m-in-marc-is-for-mental/ 19:19 cait hm? 19:17 rangi i missed an opportunity 19:17 rangi oh man 19:12 rangi not too bad 19:11 ibeardslee and soaked? 19:11 cait wb 19:11 rangi back 19:00 rangi bbiab 19:00 rangi my stop 18:58 cait lol 18:58 wahanui I know. That's why I said it. 18:58 cait very true 18:58 wahanui oleonard is the master UI designer of koha or an awesome bug wrangler 18:58 chris_n oleonard? 18:57 * oleonard is from Ohio, http://www.myacpl.org 18:57 oleonard mbalmer: Where are you from? 18:56 * chris_n wonders about that sometimes 18:56 rangi does it ever get cold there chris_n ? 18:56 huginn` chris_n: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is 21.0�C (1:35 PM EST on December 15, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 30.17 in 1022 hPa (Falling). 18:56 chris_n @wunder 28334 18:55 cait oh! 18:55 rangi flooding 18:55 wahanui i heard earthquake was on the news 18:55 cait earthquake? 18:55 rangi state of emergency down there 18:55 rangi we are just getting the edge 18:55 rangi nelson here is getting pounded 18:54 cait hi rangi 18:54 rangi hi cait 18:53 oleonard ...but hard to take advantage of because of the rain :| 18:52 oleonard It's unusually warm today 18:52 rangi for december in Ohio? 18:52 rangi hmmm that seems warm 18:52 oleonard Seems like you and I have the same weather today rangi 18:52 huginn` oleonard: The current temperature in Ohio University, Athens, Ohio is 15.0�C (1:50 PM EST on December 15, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 29.70 in 1005.6 hPa (Steady). 18:52 oleonard @wunder 45701 18:51 ibeardslee yeap yeap yeap 18:51 ibeardslee yeap yeap yeap 18:50 rangi this rain is getting boring 18:41 huginn` rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 14.0�C (7:00 AM NZDT on December 16, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1002 hPa (Steady). 18:41 rangi @wunder wellington nz 18:39 rangi hi rhcl 18:39 rhcl hi rangi 18:39 rangi ill get duncan to retest 18:39 rangi ahh xslt of course 18:38 oleonard Hi rangi 18:37 rangi sup peeps 18:36 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7334 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED , Improve 'No address stored' and similar messages in patron account 18:36 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7333 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, wizzyrea, ASSIGNED , Cleaning up tests to use sample data 18:36 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7331 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, duncan, ASSIGNED , Circulation.pl generates errors in the log 18:36 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7330 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , System preferences editor generates errors in the log with each search 18:36 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7326 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED , longoverdue.pl was hardcoded to 1 year, is now a parameter 18:36 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7325 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Editing a list generates errors in the log 18:35 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7323 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Javascript error when editing list 18:35 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: welcome to Marc Balmer, #167 18:35 jenkins_koha * marc: Bail out early if an invalid language is used. 18:35 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7321 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED , Silence warns in Koha.pm 18:35 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7334: Improve 'no address stored' and similar messages in patron account 18:35 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7334: Improve 'no address stored' and similar messages in patron account 18:35 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7313 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED , Untranslatable strings in 'search to hold' feature 18:35 jenkins_koha * wizzyrea: Bug 7333 - modifying Members.t to use a branchcode that exists in the sample data 18:35 jenkins_koha * duncan: Bug 7331 - Circulation.pl generates errors in the log 18:35 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 7330 - System preferences editor generates errors in the log with each search 18:35 jenkins_koha * ian.walls: Bug 7326: longoverdue.pl hardcoded to 366 days maximum 18:35 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 7325 - Editing a list generates errors in the log 18:35 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 7323 - Javascript error when editing list 18:35 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7321: Silence some warns in Koha.pm 18:35 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7313: Untranslatable strings in 'Search to hold' feature 18:35 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #574: SUCCESS in 53 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/574/ 17:59 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5837 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Change installer to use DBIx::Class::Schema::Versioned instead of updatedatabase.pl 17:59 chris_n bug 5837 17:58 chris_n mbalmer: here you are => http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=wip/koha-catalyst.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/new/enh/bug_5837 17:55 * chris_n did some pgsql work long ago, but finally just adapted to the status quo 17:54 chris_n I believe he has a branch somewhere with this work on it 17:54 chris_n rangi has done some work on this already 17:54 chris_n mbalmer: you may want to review some of the discussions to move toward DBIx 17:51 maximep wow, it's hard to say "bye" in a way that works for all timezones :p 17:50 paul_p have a good day/night/evening/afternoon/whatever & see you (my) tomorrow morning ! 17:50 mbalmer thanks! 17:50 paul_p OK, time to leave. I've checked & pushed all bugs that had "signed-off" and were simple to QA. still 44 bugs to QA, but they're harder, will do that later or let others from QA team do it ! 17:47 oleonard It's always a long-term goal to make Koha code less MySQL-specific 17:47 mbalmer just trying to avoid duplicate work. 17:47 mbalmer ok. 17:47 oleonard I don't think anyone is actively working on it 17:46 mbalmer to repeat and older question: is someone actively working on PostgreSQL support? Or interested in doing so? 17:42 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: welcome to Marc Balmer, #167 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=42d6b17851626c547481438138ebc592177c4e75> / Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_7346' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9880b3ad050813550338de70dcd52c82fadac376> / Bail out early if an invalid language is used. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d9f7922ad7740693 17:42 jenkins_koha Starting build 574 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED) 17:36 oleonard paul_p: Still around? 17:35 oleonard Death-spiral? I didn't know you were on a Mac [http://marbleofdoom.com/] 17:34 rhcl_away do you have the latest version, 37.9? 17:33 * chris_n watches FF go into a death-spiral... yet again 17:26 gaetan_B bye 17:07 magnuse have fun, #koha! 16:51 reiveune bye 16:48 wizzyrea that does seem to point to "reindex" 16:48 trea to clarify, the 942$n was set months ago, and they are not being suppressed. 16:47 trea i mean, i can set the flag on a record that didn't have it before, wait for the cron to run, and the record is suppressed. However, for older records that were suppressed months ago, they aren't being suppressed. 16:46 wizzyrea hm 16:44 trea is this just a case where a reindex is most likely needed? 16:44 trea okay, if OpacSuppression = hide, and they have a 942$n set as 1, why would it suppress some bibs, but not others? 16:44 wizzyrea maximep had an idea of why it was not working properly and I was going to see if he was right :D 16:43 wizzyrea speaking of that I was going to test it 16:43 wizzyrea sure go 16:43 trea anyone have a sec to chat about opac suppression? 16:43 paul_p (that's already too much !!!) 16:43 paul_p (s/3zeros/3digits/) 16:42 paul_p (iirc, a number with 3 zeros) 16:42 * oleonard doesn't understand the idea of new TLDs when existing owners buy them up anyway 16:42 wizzyrea ^^ agreed 16:42 paul_p and what is unfair I think, is the price you have to pay to buy & block it 16:42 rhcl yes, of course walmart would have purchased it right away 16:42 paul_p yes, of course. 16:42 wizzyrea right because walmart bought it! 16:41 paul_p so, no walmart girls ;-) 16:41 wizzyrea and lest we forget the lessons of the past. 16:41 rhcl so koha.xxx could logically be twisted to "The Girls of Koha" , just theoretically, at some point in the future 16:41 paul_p walmart.xxx = This domain has been reserved from registration. 16:41 wizzyrea sounds like the argument for why HLT would have never thought to register Koha as a trademark 16:41 rhcl I see walmart.xxx being the porn site of The Girls of Walmart or something... 16:41 paul_p oleonard, I tested it a lot, could not find any problem. So I decided we should have ppl with some time to dedicate to testing do it on something more usefull than this tiny patch 16:40 rhcl OK, so there's walmart.com and then there are series of images produced by some, like "The Girls of Walmart". <Understand I'm just "sayin" you know> 16:40 oleonard magnuse: It might depend on the quality of the content on k-c.xxx ;) 16:40 paul_p s/poorly/un-/ 16:39 oleonard paul_p: I was hoping my patch would prompt someone to look at it again and discover the cause where I could not 16:39 paul_p jesseW-- for this so poorly documented code... 16:39 magnuse i think the only relevant thing here is search, and i don't think a k-c.xxx would make it very high in a search for "koha" 16:39 oleonard paul_p: I certainly understand your hesitation 16:39 mbalmer nobody will associate Koha with pr0n anways. 16:38 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7333] Cleaning up tests to use sample data <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7333> 16:38 mbalmer it's about sex, instead of com(erce) or org(anisation), but so what? 16:38 wizzyrea so it *is* worth thinking about. 16:38 mbalmer why is .xxx special? 16:38 wizzyrea mbalmer - we have already had issues with unfriendly corporations buying up our domain names 16:38 rhcl mbalmer: no, but .xxx is special 16:38 rhcl just wanted to lay the idea out there 16:37 mbalmer think of the many TLDs that are there. do you want reserve each and every one? 16:37 magnuse nah, how would they get confused? 16:37 mbalmer it's money making only. 16:37 paul_p oleonard, it took me 20mn to decide what to do with 7330 ... 16:37 wizzyrea "I was only looking for library management systems!" 16:37 oleonard But honestly, is anyone going to really get confused? 16:37 rhcl yea, the whole point I think 16:37 wizzyrea O.O 16:37 wizzyrea (it's actually not a bad idea... better to have it ourselves than have someone get... confused) 16:36 oleonard smutty romances? 16:36 wizzyrea anime? 16:36 rhcl graphic novels? 16:36 rhcl I see lots of schools are buying up their .xxx equivalent. 16:36 mbalmer the shady books... 16:36 * wizzyrea wonders what kind of things we'd keep there 16:35 oleonard Hawt 16:35 rhcl so has anybody considered buying up the koha-community.xxx domain name? 16:33 wizzyrea epic subject is epic! 16:32 asaurat tschüss! 16:25 magnuse \o/ 16:22 chris_n oops 16:22 jenkins_koha wizzyrea: thanks a lot! om nom nom. I just love pecan turtles! 16:22 wizzyrea !jenkins botsnack pecan turtles 16:22 chris_n !hudson botsnack pecan turtles 16:21 chris_n !botsnack pecan turtles 16:20 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Revert "Bug 5327: Added unit test for C4/SIP/ILS/Transaction/RenewAll.pm" 16:20 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Revert "Bug 5327: Patch removes unneeded self=shift from TTParser::unshift_token" 16:20 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5327 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED , Unit tests required for all C4 modules 16:20 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Revert "Bug 5327: Patch removes unneeded self=shift from TTParser::unshift_token" 16:20 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #573: FIXED in 52 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/573/ 16:20 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed! 15:59 maximep because his old system was full of them 15:59 chris_n and the client writes the paycheck ;-) 15:59 chris_n hehe 15:59 maximep yeah but it seems the client likes to have unfeatures 15:58 magnuse wizzyrea++ 15:58 wizzyrea I agree - I will go ahead and do that 15:58 kf maximep: always remember stopwords are an unfeature! :) 15:58 libsysguy so no to the IDF algorithm :'( 15:58 kf thx! 15:58 chris_n have fun 15:58 chris_n kf++ 15:58 kf bye all 15:58 kf xmas market time :) 15:58 chris_n wizzyrea: we should probably submit a patch to remove that test for the time being 15:57 maximep so i have no idea how that test works :S 15:56 maximep looks like the stopwords don't work at all in 3.6 for us 15:56 libsysguy :D 15:56 libsysguy it would essentially rank stop words so low that they wouldn't matter 15:55 libsysguy we could just run an IDF algorithm on the collection 15:55 asaurat but is it still useful as is ? 15:55 libsysguy i just did stopwords in class 15:55 asaurat yep, I guess so 15:55 libsysguy oh oh 15:54 kf the hiding and such 15:54 kf I think this was all by intention 15:54 * wizzyrea checks that 15:54 maximep hmmm i could ask my coworker that had to answer this question a few weeks ago 15:54 wizzyrea you're probably right - and good point about the gui 15:53 asaurat which parts of Koha still use Stopwords ? looks to me that zebra doesn't use them, and the GUI used to modify them is hidden except when koha is configured in Nozebra afaik ?! 15:52 wizzyrea chris_n: I'm glad you found that db useful :D 15:52 nengard :) 15:51 wizzyrea keke 15:51 wahanui stopwords is, like, one of those mad schemes that has persisted needlessly 15:51 chris_n stopwords? 15:51 chris_n tests should probably be language agnostic 15:51 chris_n probably a good idea 15:51 maximep stopwords are just a mess 15:51 * wizzyrea considered just nuking the tests 15:51 chris_n and regrets that he opted out of french in high school 15:51 wizzyrea so... 15:51 wizzyrea but - i couldn't find a place to add them 15:51 * chris_n looks paul_p's direction 15:50 wizzyrea that's what I was thinking 15:50 chris_n I wonder if it is looking for french stop words then? 15:50 chris_n french 15:50 chris_n hmm 15:49 wizzyrea I think it has to do with stopwords 15:49 wizzyrea i'm going to make a new one when I figure it out 15:49 * chris_n gets out his magnifying glass 15:49 wizzyrea it 15:49 wizzyrea right, that one doesn't have whatever search.t wants in 15:49 chris_n so this is a great improvement :-) 15:49 chris_n before I was seeing multiple failures 15:48 chris_n I just loaded the data set you attached to 7333 15:48 wizzyrea was/is 15:48 wizzyrea why was it failing 15:48 wizzyrea the search.t test 15:48 chris_n ? 15:48 wizzyrea was it something you had to have in your test db? 15:48 wizzyrea I've been fighting that one too 15:48 chris_n but not quite there yet 15:47 chris_n better than before 15:47 maximep oh, maybe I should now take time to make my jenkins tests pass now that they pass for the commuity =) 15:47 chris_n Result: FAIL 15:47 chris_n Files=28, Tests=350, 21 wallclock secs ( 0.23 usr 0.25 sys + 14.93 cusr 1.96 csys = 17.37 CPU) 15:47 chris_n Non-zero exit status: 1 15:47 chris_n Failed test: 4 15:47 chris_n t/db_dependent/Search.t (Wstat: 256 Tests: 4 Failed: 1) 15:47 chris_n ------------------- 15:47 chris_n Test Summary Report 15:47 chris_n :-( 15:47 * chris_n slurps up new data 15:42 kf yay :) 15:40 oleonard Better than average one though, it included cake. 15:39 * oleonard is back from a morning meeting 15:39 * oleonard takes it gratefully 15:39 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7333 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, wizzyrea, ASSIGNED , Cleaning up tests to use sample data 15:39 kf bug 7333 15:39 kf ah 15:39 * chris_n hand the coffee to oleonard 15:38 chris_n I'm using the sample data and have many fails on tests jenkins passes 15:38 kf stil had it in my folder this morning :) 15:38 chris_n hmm 15:38 kf trying to remember the bug. 15:38 kf I think basically it's using the sample data we have when you tick all checkboxes during installation 15:38 chris_n kf: link please :-) 15:38 kf chris_n: I used it for testing the SIP tests and had no fails 15:37 kf chris_n: she attached one to a bug that works nicely 15:36 chris_n paul_p: I think maybe wizzyrea is working up a test db which will make all db_dependent tests happy 15:30 rhcl *watching ssh discussion 15:27 jenkins_koha Starting build 573 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #571 21 h ago) 15:20 mbalmer kf, thanks! 15:20 mbalmer libsysguy, much more crucial to security is NOT to use password, challenge response or Pam, but only keys... 15:20 kf mbalmer: it's included 15:19 kf it didn't fail when I was testing 15:19 kf the tt test 15:19 kf I am not sure reverting the second is the best way 15:19 kf hm 15:18 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_5327' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7698ce6e016d6006449814c9bf73e58dd231fc11> / Revert "Bug 5327: Added unit test for C4/SIP/ILS/Transaction/RenewAll.pm" <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8df873c1a298d9c7e4283372201466d28fa1a784> / Revert "Bug 5327: Patch removes unneeded self=shift from TTParser::unshift_token" < 15:18 mbalmer libsysguy, maybe a matter of taste, dunno. I and my *BSD colleagues have no problems using root directly. allows you to automate thinks 15:18 mbalmer btw, is SIP2 included in master or do I have instal a third party package? 15:17 libsysguy mbalmer just always heard it was best practice 15:17 paul_p should be enough to have jenkins happy ;-) (with reverting the SIP_ILS stuff) 15:17 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5327 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED , Unit tests required for all C4 modules 15:16 paul_p kf, i'll also revert Bug 5327: Patch removes unneeded self=shift from TTParser::unshift_token, because the tests is failing 15:16 mbalmer no. why? 15:16 libsysguy yeah but isn't it a better practice to ssh as a user and just use sudo 15:16 kf noted in my test that it needs the sample database to work, but was not aware how jenkins works 15:16 kf paul_p: the tests fail because they are db_dependant 15:15 kf paul_p: hm not quite true 15:15 mbalmer (says an ex-openbsd/openssh developer) 15:15 paul_p kf: reverting failing tests now. seems code is not broken, it's tests that are broken ;-) 15:15 mbalmer sshing as root is perfectly fine. 15:15 libsysguy but shame for ssh-ing as root mbalmer 15:14 libsysguy that is what I was thinking 15:14 kf wrong window? ;) 15:14 kf hm 15:14 mbalmer ssh root@gw.vnode.ch wake sis2 biblio 15:13 magnuse heh 15:11 mbalmer for waking hours we have http://netbsd.gw.com/cgi-bin/man-cgi?wake++NetBSD-current 15:11 magnuse every waking hour here ;-) 15:11 mbalmer 15 - 10 = 5?? 4?? -> there has to be time for lunch, too 15:10 maximep 9 to 18 here :/ 15:10 magnuse lucky you! 15:10 mbalmer I only need 4 hours for what others need 8 ;P 15:10 magnuse yay 15:10 mbalmer I start at 10 and stop at 15. 15:09 magnuse (starting at 8) 15:08 magnuse no, that's norwegians - half past three if we can get away with it 15:07 kf I wish... 15:07 mbalmer s/ar/at/ 15:07 mbalmer kf, don't germans stop to work ar four? *duck* 15:07 maximep it feels like friday here with all the snow and christmas coming up 15:04 magnuse (at least the first part) 15:04 magnuse rangi and eythian and several others would not agree with that, i think ;-) 15:02 kf it's not friday yet! back to work everyone 15:02 kf lol 15:00 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7356] FIx various typos and mis-spellings <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7356> 14:51 maximep and hi to you :p 14:51 magnuse lol 14:51 libsysguy hehe ascii YMCA 14:50 libsysguy \o/ /\o/\ o[ /o\ 14:50 maximep 17 ?! wow 14:50 magnuse i have ~17 very-very low traffic installtions (my "gratis koha" project) running off the packages on a 512MB "slice" on slicehost, without any apparent problems 14:50 libsysguy o/ 14:47 maximep Ô_ô 14:46 mbalmer 768MB here, but only three books in my two libraries ;) 14:46 maximep I would not even try running koha with less than 1.5 gigs of ram, but maybe there's ways to config apache to take less 14:44 magnuse 2k records = nothing ;-) you don't need a lot of power for that, unless there will be massice amounts of searching going on 14:44 chris_n $$$$ 14:44 maximep we just upgraded our servers to really fast SSDs. I have never seen koha go as fast :D 14:43 bigbrovar chris_n, sure, am doing that now :) 14:43 chris_n bigbrovar: search the list as well, this has been discussed there many times 14:43 bigbrovar looking at 2000 records 14:43 magnuse bigbrovar: depends on number of records and level of use 14:42 maximep oh man, don't know if koha could run on a 512 megs vps 14:42 bigbrovar Hi guys, If I was going to install koha on a vps, what should be the recommended specification in terms of hard disk, ram and processing power. 14:41 chris_n wants even 14:41 * chris_n want snow! 14:41 magnuse a light sprinkling of snow here - niiiice ;-) 14:40 maximep tons of snow here. fuuuun =) 14:40 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 6.0�C (3:20 PM CET on December 15, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: -3.0�C. Windchill: 2.0�C. Pressure: 28.88 in 978 hPa (Steady). 14:40 magnuse @wunder boo 14:40 mbalmer erlinsbach, pffft….. 14:40 maximep is ykg -_- 14:39 maximep lol Kangirsuk 14:39 huginn` mbalmer: The current temperature in Erlinsbach, Switzerland is 6.0�C (2:59 PM CET on December 15, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 3.0�C. Windchill: 2.0�C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010.0 hPa (Rising). 14:39 mbalmer @wunder gipf-oberfrick 14:39 huginn` maximep: The current temperature in Kangirsuk, Quebec is -15.0�C (9:00 AM EST on December 15, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: -19.0�C. Windchill: -25.0�C. Pressure: 29.61 in 1003 hPa (Rising). 14:39 maximep @wunder yqc 14:36 kf paul_p: I mean reverting the first part because the second is not ready yet 14:36 kf paul_p: for the sip thing - the patch must be moved into the other directory because it needs sample data, but I failed that patch because it does not work - probably reverting the last patch and wait for the complete fix could work 14:35 mbalmer puuh, patch handling is difficult... 14:35 kf paul_p: I might know why 14:32 nengard that's what i thought 14:31 paul_p nengard, not sure, but almost sure it's based on regular calendar days (no holidays taken in account) 14:30 magnuse nengard: sorry 14:30 nengard paul_p chris_n magnuse anyone know the answer to this "does ReservesMaxPickUpDelay use the calendar in Koha - or is it based on just regular calendar days?" 14:27 magnuse ah ;-) 14:26 nengard so we log out quick 14:26 nengard magnuse when we're training we like to pop in and show people around, but don't want to be distracted by all the #koha fun :) 14:26 nengard I think I know the answer but want to confirm 14:26 nengard does ReservesMaxPickUpDelay use the calendar in Koha - or is it based on just regular calendar days? 14:22 mbalmer hmm, my 'pgsql' branches produces no diff yet, bad. 14:07 * chris_n waves at the dust of sekjal 14:06 magnuse hehe, that was quick 14:06 sekjal gtg; doing a training for some librarians in NH 14:05 sekjal hi, magnuse 14:05 magnuse hiya sekjal 14:04 chris_n unstable-- 14:04 chris_n kf++ 14:04 chris_n ouch 14:03 magnuse lol 14:03 paul_p good morning schuster 14:03 paul_p schuster, it's because jenkins is back to unstable 14:03 asaurat :D 14:02 schuster Never good when you step into a chat with the first comment being yikes... :) 14:02 paul_p yikes... 13:59 magnuse unstable, eh? 13:59 magnuse kf++ 13:50 kf jenkins... you interrupted... 13:49 jenkins_koha * duncan: Bug 5327: Added unit test for C4/SIP/ILS/Transaction/RenewAll.pm 13:49 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5327 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED , Unit tests required for all C4 modules 13:49 kf German translation for 3.6.2 updated and complete 13:49 jenkins_koha * chrish: Added missing reference case to Boolean.t and corrected count 13:49 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: welcome to Duncan Tyler, developer 166 ! 13:49 jenkins_koha * chrish: Added missing reference case to Boolean.t and corrected count 13:49 jenkins_koha * chrish: Bug 5327: Patch removes unneeded self=shift from TTParser::unshift_token 13:49 jenkins_koha * duncan: Added unit tests for Scrubber 13:49 jenkins_koha * duncan: Added unit test for AuthoritiesMarc/UNIMARC.pm 13:49 jenkins_koha * duncan: Added unit tests for Sip Checksum.pm 13:49 jenkins_koha * m.de.rooy: 7185 Fixing typo in release notes 13:49 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #572: UNSTABLE in 51 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/572/ 13:49 kf ok, now: Hah! 13:46 mbalmer next time I will. 13:46 mbalmer ja ja ja ;) 13:45 kf and git commit --amend them once you have the bug number ;) 13:45 kf you can do that 13:45 kf is also the subject of the mail if you send them 13:45 mbalmer well, I did the patches before I opened a bug (lame excuse...) 13:45 kf the first line of your commit message 13:45 kf yes 13:45 mbalmer you mean in the committ message? 13:44 kf but the bug number in your subject lines next time ;) 13:44 kf at the risk of making you scream at me... 13:44 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7356 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, marc, NEW , FIx various typos and mis-spellings 13:44 mbalmer so my typo patches for the the bug 7356 ar updated, pls check wether the developpers like them. 13:43 kf or only a syntax the translation parser is worried about 13:42 kf %s %s [%% DEFAULT loopro.itemcallnumber="No Call Number" loopro.barcode="No Barcode" loopro.title="NO TITLE" loopro.author="" %%] %s 13:42 kf that's not good 13:42 kf ohoh 13:41 kf ok, missed something... 13:41 kf hah! 13:35 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5533] marking item lost diff in two places <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5533> 13:34 mbalmer but git is amazingly powerful. 13:31 mbalmer at least no harm done here, unlike when you hack kernel code ... 13:30 mbalmer chris_n, you always have to see these things as kind of a computer game, sometimes you win, sometime the machine does ;) 13:30 kf :) 13:30 chris_n hurray! 13:29 magnuse yay! 13:29 * chris_n concurs with kf's suggested 'git checkout -b foo' prior to messing with things 13:29 * mbalmer is a happy man again 13:29 mbalmer hoho, that works 13:29 magnuse chris_n: sounds like sound advice ;-) 13:28 bigbrovar magnuse, hi :) 13:28 * chris_n thinks one should keep one's git well fed and happy lest it turn viciously on one at an unexpected moment ;-) 13:28 kf or the commitid of the last patch you don't want 13:28 kf yep 13:27 magnuse i think chris_n suggested 'git rebase -i HEAD~X' where X is the number of commits you want to work with... 13:26 mbalmer then rebase 13:26 mbalmer else you get all the committs from others as well. 13:26 mbalmer ok, for the record: before doing a 'git rebase -i …' to a git rebase master 13:25 magnuse no, never! 13:25 kf well... as long as you don't doubt koha? 13:25 kf magnuse: you doubt the world? ohoh! 13:25 * magnuse loves perl and git but has his doubts about the world in general... ;-) 13:25 * mbalmer thinks perl is a SM game 13:24 * kf likes perl and loves git :) 13:24 mbalmer git rebase --abort sucks less ;) 13:24 kf but it will probably not make you friends here 13:24 kf you could metnion it 13:24 kf well... 13:24 mbalmer did I already mention that git sucks, perl sucks, the world sucks …. ;) 13:23 kf I meant branch out from the branch with your changes you are trying to fix 13:23 kf not sure how to revert a squash 13:23 mbalmer yeah, I am on a new branch. 13:23 kf git checkout -b ... 13:22 kf if you are trying something new a new branch is often good 13:22 kf ouch 13:21 mbalmer ah fuck, not it squashed about 30 committs into one. 13:20 chris_n you'll see them in the editor when you run the rebase 13:20 chris_n there are some additional options since that article (2009) as well I think 13:19 mbalmer yes, looks so. just reading up the article magnuse posted 13:18 chris_n interactive rebase may be the cleanest way to get back where you want to be 13:18 chris_n hmm 13:18 mbalmer but I guess squashing these commits into one should work 13:17 mbalmer I uses patch -R. 13:17 mbalmer no. 13:17 chris_n mbalmer: did you actually do a 'git revert'? 13:16 marcelr reapply with your file (not manually) 13:16 * chris_n loves 'git rebase -i HEAD~X' where X is the number of commits I want to mess with 13:16 mbalmer new checkout an re-apply sounds like stupid duplication of work. there must be a better way. 13:15 magnuse i'm no expert there, but e.g. http://gitready.com/advanced/2009/02/10/squashing-commits-with-rebase.html looks useful 13:15 mbalmer yes, exactly 13:15 marcelr probably you are better off with git reset to head and selective reapply 13:14 magnuse sounds like you have two commits then. you might want to squash them into one 13:14 marcelr you can also git format-patch -1 to get only one commit 13:13 mbalmer I reverted part of a diff, then committet that and reformatted, but now I get two patches: one that changes to much and a second one that reverts part of the first 13:12 marcelr but it is quick and dirty-practive 13:11 marcelr mbalmer: if you cut a whole diff section from the patch file, reapply and git-format, it should work 13:04 mbalmer how should I handle this? 13:04 mbalmer I have a git problem wrt my typo patches: I reverted part of my changes, to not change .po files. But now I get even more patches with 'git format-patch origin'. 12:58 kmkale BBL 12:58 kmkale gotta run 12:57 jenkins_koha Starting build 572 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 12:54 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_5327' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6ca007a9237954d2497080448586f721da6701a8> / Bug 5327: Added unit test for C4/SIP/ILS/Transaction/RenewAll.pm <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=06c822c37ce91e5936542990d7e3299e14271bd3> / Added missing reference case to Boolean.t and corrected count <http://git.koha-community.org 12:53 magnuse and yes, starting to use 3.2.x and then do the upgrade later on will be scarier 12:53 magnuse well, 3.2.5 has been in production for a long time in lots of libraries - and libraries are just starting to move to 3.6.x - but i'd still say go for 3.6.1 - it has tons of bugfixes and new features 12:52 kmkale so it will be easier for you to keep updated 12:52 kmkale Suzzane: better go with 3.6 as there are major differences after 3.4 version 12:51 magnuse then you get to do a clean web installation again 12:51 Suzzane as compared to version 3.6.1 12:51 magnuse if there is no point in keeping what is in the database i would empty that and then follow the description here http://paste.koha-community.org/156 but skip the last part that starts with "Koha 3.4.x or later no longer stores items..." 12:51 Suzzane how stable is the version 3.2.5 12:49 kmkale Suzzane: hah if there is no data its simple. Do a fresh install 12:49 Suzzane and currently, there is no data stored into the system 12:49 kmkale Suzzane: http://paste.koha-community.org/156 12:48 Suzzane how am I going to upgrade to the new and stable version 12:48 Suzzane our koha is running on ubuntu 10.10, and it was installed via a kohalivecd 12:48 magnuse hiya bigbrovar 12:46 kmkale Suzzane: http://paste.koha-community.org/156 12:46 pastebot "kmkale" at 59.181.126.113 pasted "Upgrade from 3.2.x to 3.4 and upwards" (36 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/156 12:45 magnuse make sure you have a good backup of the database before you proceed 12:45 Suzzane susan 12:45 kmkale it has clear instructions to upgrade 12:45 magnuse Suzzane: http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=INSTALL;h=c4e51bc5dc5c2e86cb8ba5596d6a0d3a331de542;hb=HEAD#l62 12:44 Suzzane i work with Suan 12:44 Suzzane Kale, this is the programmer 12:44 kmkale the INSTALL file with the download has a upgrade section in it. 12:43 Suzzane how do you go about doing that? 12:43 kmkale yes it is 12:42 Suzzane our programmer is asking if its possible to upgrade from version 3.2.5 to version 3.6.1 12:42 kmkale hi Suzzane :) 12:42 Suzzane kmkale, hi... Susan from Kenya here 12:41 jcamins_away Bye! 12:41 jcamins_away oleonard++ 12:41 jcamins_away And I think oleonard wrote another patch. 12:41 jcamins_away kmkale: the code is almost identical, I just moved it to a different file. 12:40 kmkale many changes 12:39 kmkale yikes!! 12:39 jcamins_away Have a good day, #koha. I'll be back this afternoon. 12:38 jcamins_away Hey, isn't it kind of late where you are? 12:36 jcamins_away I couldn't figure out how to keep your sign offs. :( 12:35 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1633 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, kmkale, ASSIGNED , Add ability to take book cover images from local img db 12:35 jcamins_away kmkale: good morning. There's a new version of the bug 1633 patches to sign off on. 12:35 kmkale hi jcamins_away :) 12:33 jcamins_away indradg++ # nice response on the list 11:32 Suzzane thanks let me do that 11:32 Suzzane ok 11:32 mbalmer take a look around http://www.koha-community.org/ 11:30 Suzzane kindly tell me where do we go to download the 3.6.1 11:30 Suzzane nice 11:30 kf_mtg ok, time for lunch :) 11:29 kf_mtg which will have a lot of small improvments too 11:29 kf_mtg and soon we will have 3.6.2 11:29 kf_mtg 3.6.1 is the current stable version 11:29 kf_mtg yes 11:29 Suzzane he is asking if the 3.6 version is stable 11:28 Suzzane version 11:28 Suzzane but we need the 3.6 11:28 Suzzane our programmer happened to download the Koha 3.2.5 11:28 Suzzane sorry, caps 11:28 Suzzane KINDLY GUIDE ME ON THIS ONE 11:28 Suzzane Hi AmitG 11:27 AmitG heya Suzzane 11:27 Suzzane anybody home..... 11:27 Suzzane a quick on 11:26 Suzzane Hi everyone..... 11:13 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5347] late order management <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5347> 10:45 kmkale marcelr you are welcome. 10:28 marcelr kmkale: thx for signing off 6302 10:21 ronald hello Koha 10:14 huginn` kmkale: Quote #159: "slef: WELCOME TO HOOGERLAND. POPULATION: HEROES" (added by wizzyrea at 05:00 PM, September 23, 2011) 10:14 kmkale @quote random 10:14 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn`. 10:14 huginn` kmkale: Quote #100: "chris: well, one of them is overhauling the whole templating system jcamins: Koha's other swiss army chainsaw" (added by wizzyrea at 07:41 PM, October 11, 2010) 10:14 kmkale @quote random 10:14 huginn` kmkale: Quote #120: "<sekjal> I think time is less like a continuum, and more like a series of git commits" (added by gmcharlt at 05:57 PM, January 27, 2011) 10:14 kmkale @quote random 10:13 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn`. 10:13 huginn` kmkale: Quote #100: "chris: well, one of them is overhauling the whole templating system jcamins: Koha's other swiss army chainsaw" (added by wizzyrea at 07:41 PM, October 11, 2010) 10:13 kmkale @quote random 10:08 * kmkale is wondering if magnuse's patch testing machine is up and running again ;) 10:07 kmkale rangi++ #for http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz/2011/12/15/fixing-whitespace-when-apply-patches-with-git/ 10:06 magnuse community++ 10:05 kmkale and all folks who contributed to http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Git_bz_configuration 10:04 kmkale it should be git_bz++ 10:03 magnuse kmkale++ 10:03 magnuse yay 10:03 * kmkale is surprised at how easy it was to use git bz to apply, test and sign off a couple of patches :-D 09:56 hdl hi 09:27 AmitG gaetan_B in hindi 09:24 gaetan_B kya hal hai? 09:24 gaetan_B hi AmitG 09:23 AmitG heya gaetan_B 09:21 AmitG heya frnacharb 09:14 Oak later 09:14 Oak time for class 09:04 magnuse hiya francharb 09:04 francharb hi 09:04 francharb by the way 09:02 magnuse yeah, but that page has some pointer related how the .po files etc work 09:01 kf_mtg meeting time 09:01 kf grr 09:01 * kf nick kf_mtg 09:01 mbalmer magnuse, fwiw, I am not translating, I am correcting the english spellos and typos 09:00 magnuse but that page could have been a lot more useful 09:00 magnuse some pointers can be found here: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Translating_Koha 09:00 mbalmer oh, nice hint, thanks! 08:59 kf mbalmer: if you want to update the po files to check your changes: perl translate update de-DE in ...misc/translator 08:59 magnuse probably way too early for him... 08:59 AmitG_ chris_n around? 08:57 mbalmer ok, so will recreate my typo diffs without the po files later today 08:56 kf some things get marked fuzzy, new strings have to be translated 08:56 * kf is translating the changes for 3.6.2 right now 08:56 kf the po files will be updated 08:56 kf but yes, if you update the english templates 08:56 kf I am not sure how the magic works 08:55 mbalmer how will that be matched to existing .po files? 08:55 mbalmer so when I change text in a template, Pootle will create new po files from them? 08:54 kf the software used there 08:54 kf translate.koha-community.org 08:54 wahanui rumour has it Pootle is down for me - can someone else check 08:54 mbalmer what is Pootle? 08:48 mbalmer hmm, so .po files are autogenereated, nice, back to the table with my patches then 08:48 magnuse jcamins++ 08:48 magnuse so... 08:47 magnuse yeah, he is 08:47 kf well, he is always awesome, right? 08:47 kf :) 08:46 magnuse what did he do now? 08:45 kf jcamins++ 08:34 kf :P 08:33 Oak hehe 08:33 Oak thank you kf. we are happy to be back with you again. 08:27 AmitG heya kf :D 08:27 magnuse namaste AmitG 08:27 kf hi magnuse :) and AmitG 08:27 AmitG hi magnuse 08:26 magnuse wb kf 08:26 sdaugherty still not asleep, fwiw, I saved my history so I can use it to write up documentation for anyone else in same situation 08:24 kf hi again #koha :) 08:24 kf it's me coming back... 08:24 kf hm 08:24 kf wb #koha 08:22 gaetan_B hello! 08:16 magnuse no problem, just joking ;-) 08:16 mbalmer sorry, I had troubles with my IRC client (Colloquy on Mac) 08:15 * magnuse hands mbalmer the velcro 08:09 asaurat hi! 08:09 marcelr hi Oak 08:09 Oak hello marcelr, asaurat :) 08:08 magnuse Oak 08:08 Oak magnuse 08:02 marcelr hi magnuse 08:02 magnuse hiya marcelr 08:02 marcelr hello koha 08:02 magnuse yup 08:02 * eythian leaves it to look at another time 08:02 eythian I guess the packages are rewriting that somehow. 08:02 wahanui interesting is sometimes bad or sometimes good 08:02 eythian OK, interesting 08:01 magnuse on a non-package install the files are present, no errors in firebug console 08:01 magnuse have fun eythian 08:00 eythian cya 08:00 magnuse yay 08:00 magnuse same 404s when i choose en as language 08:00 eythian but now I can go, I have a rebuild-zebra running, and that's the last thing for today, and it can run on its own. 08:00 eythian probably effects, based on the name. 07:59 magnuse i wonder what those two files are supposed to do 07:59 eythian I'd have to compare it to a non-package install. 07:59 eythian perhaps those errors show up there too then 07:58 magnuse same thing, no plugins folder 07:58 eythian what about in the en equivalent 07:57 magnuse when i look in http://esme.priv.bibkat.no:8080/intranet-tmpl/prog/nb-NO/lib/yui/ there is lots of stuff there, but no folder called "plugins" 07:56 wahanui niihau, julian_m 07:56 julian_m hi 07:56 sophie_m Guten Morgen cait 07:56 magnuse it doesn't seem to do any harm, so we might just leave it alone 07:56 cait and bbiab 07:56 eythian but, have a look to make sure the yui stuff is copied/linked into place 07:56 cait hi sophie_m 07:56 sophie_m hi magnuse 07:56 magnuse bonjour sophie_m 07:56 magnuse hehe 07:56 sophie_m hello #koha 07:56 eythian I'm hoping it'll be fixed by yui going away :) 07:56 magnuse not sure if it's the same for the official packages 07:55 magnuse yeah... 07:55 eythian something about something something symlinks something,. 07:55 magnuse jcamins saw the same thing 07:55 eythian I've seen that I think. 07:55 magnuse and then: YAHOO.widget.Loading is undefined 07:55 eythian hmm 07:55 magnuse "NetworkError: 404 Not Found - http://esme.priv.bibkat.no:8080/intranet-tmpl/prog/nb-NO/lib/yui/plugins/loading-min.js" 07:55 magnuse "NetworkError: 404 Not Found - http://esme.priv.bibkat.no:8080/intranet-tmpl/prog/nb-NO/lib/yui/plugins/bubbling-min.js" 07:55 magnuse the firebug consoles shows some 404s: 07:54 magnuse when i look at http://esme.priv.bibkat.no:8080/cgi-bin/koha/cataloguing/addbiblio.pl 07:54 eythian No promises though. 07:54 eythian I might have an answer. 07:54 * kmkale cold do a sign-off or two today if its simple enough 07:54 magnuse eythian: i have a package-related question... 07:53 magnuse but i don't think it's that simple 07:53 eythian haha 07:53 magnuse stuffing themselves with butter 07:53 magnuse they blame it on the low carb people 07:53 kmkale :-D 07:52 magnuse at least it proves you can have lots of money in the bank and still run out of butter 07:52 magnuse i don't know what we are doing wrong... 07:52 kmkale magnuse: really? 07:52 magnuse :-) 07:51 cait I am sure we have too 07:51 cait what? 07:51 eythian I'm sure we have spare butter. 07:51 magnuse namaskar kmkale 07:51 magnuse eythian: yeah, i know, it's... mindboggling 07:51 kmkale Namaste magnuse :) 07:50 kmkale back 07:46 eythian http://i.imgur.com/3Ovfi.png <-- magnus_away! 07:43 cait good night sdaugherty 07:42 sdaugherty sleep! 07:42 sdaugherty it's 2:42am for me. 07:41 sdaugherty Maybe tomorrow. Going to shutter what I have right now in case I've left something exposed that shouldn't be. 07:41 cait hi reiveune :) 07:40 reiveune hi rangi, cait, everybody 07:39 rangi hi reiveune 07:38 reiveune hello 07:35 eythian and done, that was much faster 07:35 rangi eythian: good plan :) 07:34 * eythian cheats and dumps the borrowers from the other database 07:34 cait sdaugherty: ah, you should perhaps install 3.6.1 07:34 sdaugherty ok... situation requires more nicotine... brb 07:34 eythian ah 07:33 wahanui the patch is in koha-patches 07:33 rangi the patch 07:32 eythian rangi: what did you do to make that import work? 07:32 sdaugherty koha-3.04.07 07:32 eythian ah crap, it timed out. 07:31 cait sdaugherty: which version are you installing? 07:31 rangi i signed it off 07:31 eythian sdaugherty: do you need to do a git update? 07:31 rangi i think its been signed off 07:31 sdaugherty Getting farther. :) 07:31 eythian cait: is it need of that? 07:30 sdaugherty Undefined subroutine &main::setlanguagecookie called at install.pl line 25. 07:30 cait sign off? :) 07:29 eythian really need that patch to speed up the borrower import. Damn it's slow. 07:24 sdaugherty ahh... yeah, have to convert all the scriptalias directives to rewrite 06:41 sdaugherty ok... next round of entertainment! :) 06:36 sdaugherty I'll have to figure out the htaccess stuff in a few, but I need to smoke first :) 06:35 sdaugherty I'll clean it later once all it working 06:35 eythian ah, then you're fine :) 06:35 sdaugherty I don't think I'm going to be terribly concerned at this stage, they advertise no storage limit 06:35 sdaugherty hmm. /dev/sdb1 3.6T 161G 3.4T 5% /home 06:34 eythian if you clean up your source stuff when you're done, you'll get a lot back 06:34 eythian including mysql 06:34 eythian I just did an install and everything was about 600MB or so. 06:33 sdaugherty 1.9G . 06:33 sdaugherty [rijl-al-awwa]$ du -sh . 06:33 eythian most of them are pretty small 06:33 sdaugherty I hate to think how much disk space I just used with all those dependancies 06:33 cait cool :) 06:32 sdaugherty ok, I've gotten as far as successful make install on koha 06:31 cait accidently_overwriting_my_test_database-- 06:31 cait meh 06:30 sdaugherty my labels are preprinted, so that hopefully won't be an issue for a while. 06:29 cait pdf generation is only needed for acquisitions orders and label printing - not sure which uses that module 06:28 eythian or install it by hand 06:28 eythian you can possibly skip that if you're not going to need PDF generation. 06:27 eythian I don't think its path should have 'inc' at the start 06:27 eythian that looks to me like an error in the module 06:27 sdaugherty Ok. only one module I'm stuck on now. http://paste.koha-community.org/155 06:24 eythian new koha server built, now just to wait for the DNS to tick over and it's hopefully all good. 06:24 sdaugherty Successfully installed Net-Z3950-ZOOM-1.28 06:21 kmkale bbl 06:17 sdaugherty yaz built, zebra building 06:14 sdaugherty well, positive sign, configure script recognizes --prefix 06:12 * sdaugherty tries the obvious, and downloads them and runs configure with --prefix=$HOME 06:10 rangi is where they live 06:10 rangi indexdata.dk 06:09 rangi but yeah, if you dont have yaz and zebra, you wont be able to get a working koha up 06:08 rangi partially, but you have to actually try to install zebra first 06:08 sdaugherty ERROR: Unable to call script: yaz-config 06:08 sdaugherty let me guess, something like: 06:07 sdaugherty we;lll see 06:04 rangi yeah, its what koha uses to index the marc records 06:04 wahanui i think zebra is a fielded free text indexing and retrieval engine with a Z39.50 front-end. You can use any compatible, commercial, or freeware Z39.50 client to access data stored in Zebra. 06:04 sdaugherty zebra? 06:04 rangi if not, try openbiblio :) 06:04 rangi but if you cna get past that, then you should be ok 06:03 rangi if you get stuck, the last person to try shared hosting failed at the zebra stage 06:03 rangi but its a ton smaller 06:02 * rangi cant vouch for it 06:02 rangi http://obiblio.sourceforge.net/ maybe 06:01 eythian which is no good for you 06:01 eythian no, it gets you the packages 06:01 eythian oh 06:00 eythian there is a script that should get you all the dependencies 06:00 sdaugherty The other ones I found seemed to have ruby dependancies that were much more complex, but no, I probably don't need all the functionality. 05:59 rangi it might be easier to use one of the smaller free software ils? 05:59 rangi and do you need all the features koha has? 05:58 sdaugherty Actually, this is donated hosting. 05:58 sdaugherty Sadly, it's not. 05:58 cait sdaugherty is trying to install on shared hosting 05:58 sdaugherty I wish a VPS was in my budget. 05:57 rangi pulls in all the dependencies, a ton easier 05:57 sdaugherty lol 05:56 rangi thats why i install it using the debian package :) 05:55 * sdaugherty looks at all the dependancies... wow 05:51 rangi only sorta here until the kids are asleep 05:51 rangi thanks cait 05:46 cait wb rangi 05:46 sdaugherty ok. working through the module dependancies now. 05:45 rangi *sigh* 05:39 cait or only old? 05:37 sdaugherty The wiki apparently lies. 05:37 sdaugherty This is perl, v5.10.0 built for x86_64-linux-gnu-thread-multi 05:27 eythian also, they'll need a newer version of Koha to work with than 5.8, Koha requires 5.10 now. 05:26 sdaugherty installing local::lib so that I can do non-root CPAN installs. 05:23 eythian basically, you need to make it use a separate tablespace or you get tables that never shrink when they're emptied out. 05:23 eythian well, in that case, it's their problem :) 05:23 eythian hello 05:23 Oak Hello Mr. Robin 05:23 * sdaugherty nods, especially since dreamhost doesn't put mysql on the same machine as apache. 05:22 eythian well, you need to change the mysql config slightly 05:22 cait hey eythian :) 05:22 cait koha works fine with current mysql versons 05:21 cait I don't think you need the changes to mysql 05:21 cait hm 2007 05:20 eythian it might be possible, but it wouldn't be easy 05:20 sdaugherty http://wiki.dreamhost.com/Koha 05:20 cait I am not aware of any other documentation for shared hosting 05:19 sdaugherty My provider (dreamhost) has a halfway written document on it, which suggests it's possible, but unfortunately, it's far from complete. 05:18 cait not sure it can be done on shared hosting, or at least it's probably not easy 05:18 cait koha needs a lot of perl packages and cron jobs and things 05:18 cait ah 05:17 sdaugherty ie, using a web hosting provider, as opposed to a system I fully manage and have root on... 05:17 cait sdaugherty: shared hosting? 05:15 sdaugherty Are there any specific installation instructions for installing koha into shared hosting? 05:07 schuster I think I will attempt again tomorrow it is too late to mess with this tonight thanks again rangi I had hoped to figure this out on my own but... :) 05:06 schuster I believe what I need is the Option A Download Koha via Git. This is where I always mess up! 05:05 schuster rangi always tells me the right thing to do, but I can' never find the instructions! 04:57 Oak howdy schuster :) 04:55 wahanui schuster is from Plano, TX 04:55 bag heya schuster 04:55 * rangi will bbiab 04:55 rangi and set it up to run from there 04:54 rangi clone the repo 04:54 rangi if u want to do dev 04:54 rangi no you dont dowload stable 04:53 schuster Yes I have done some of that, but I did the koha-common and now realize that I probably need to download stable and follow those manual instructions. Things have changed! Mostly for the better, but that piece is still confusing on the wiki if you want to do git development stuff. 04:49 cait schuster: :) have you seen you can install all dependencies with the packages? very easy to set up a dev version now 04:49 rangi heya AmitG 04:49 AmitG heya rangi 04:48 schuster I need to figure out this new template stuff and do some more research. I have some things I need to submit that I've been playing with. 04:48 cait hi AmitG 04:48 rangi awesome thats good news for us 04:48 AmitG heya cait 04:48 schuster I'm usually up this late, but am now working on refocusing on Koha again. 04:48 rangi yay! 04:48 schuster hey - trying to get some grading done and a "development" version setup on an old Laptop... Back to trying to make a difference! 04:47 rangi you are up early/late schuster ? 04:47 cait hi schuster 04:46 huginn` schuster: The current temperature in Preston Lakes, Frisco, Texas is 17.8�C (10:46 PM CST on December 14, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 29.97 in 1014.8 hPa (Rising). 04:46 schuster @WUNDER 75035 04:41 huginn` rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 18.0�C (5:00 PM NZDT on December 15, 2011). Conditions: Rain Showers. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Falling). 04:41 cait hi Judit :) 04:41 rangi @wunder wellington nz 04:41 cait tss. 04:41 Judit :) 04:41 huginn` cait: Error: No such location could be found. 04:41 cait @wunder Wellington 04:41 huginn` rangi: Error: No such location could be found. 04:40 rangi @wunder welllington nz 04:40 cait hi kmkale :) 04:39 kmkale cait good morning :) 04:38 Oak hm 04:38 huginn` Oak: The current temperature in Islamabad, Pakistan is 7.0�C (9:00 AM PKT on December 15, 2011). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). 04:38 Oak @wunder islamabad 04:38 huginn` Oak: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 2.9�C (5:34 AM CET on December 15, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Windchill: 3.0�C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011.1 hPa (Steady). 04:38 Oak @wunder Konstanz 04:37 cait hi Oak :) 04:37 Oak Guten Morgen Katrin :) 04:33 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7249] Report webservices <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7249> 04:33 kmkale aahh seems its tyhe bug number ;) 04:31 kmkale in git bz apply xxxx the xxxx stands for bug number or the attachement number in bugzilla? 04:30 * kmkale is learning git bz 04:24 bag thanks wahanui 04:23 bag oh cool 04:23 wahanui livecd is here http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_LiveCD 04:23 bag livecd? 04:23 bag livecd 04:23 bag livecd is here http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_LiveCD 04:23 bag live cd? 04:23 bag like wahanui live cd is here http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_LiveCD 04:23 bag anybody here know how to program wahanui ? 04:22 bag live cd? 04:22 bag livecd? 04:10 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6843 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, kmkale, ASSIGNED , Renew membership from expiry date or from current date 04:10 kmkale May I interest someone here to signoff on bug 6843? It is a very simple but useful enhancement 04:07 Sylence kia ora Oak 04:07 Oak kia ora #koha 03:55 AmitG heya kmkale 03:55 bag hiya kmkale 03:54 kmkale Namaste bag & AmitG :-D 03:54 bag yo AmitG 03:53 AmitG heya bag 03:49 Judit Hi kmkale 03:49 kmkale Namaste rangi & Judit :) 03:49 Judit thanks 03:49 kmkale Namaskaar #koha 03:49 rangi ah, i think no in that case 03:48 eythian rangi: to use SMS, you need a username/pw of your provider 03:48 wahanui ...but who is <reply>... 03:48 eythian wahanui: the \who is a band 03:48 rangi not sure what you mean by password 03:48 wahanui the is probably a stop word 03:48 rangi the who? 03:46 Judit if you want to set up your koha to send sms messages- is there a web interface where you can add the username(phone number) password? i can see you can use the driver in a syspref 03:44 rangi sleep well 03:44 sekjal have a good <<localtime>>, #koha 03:43 sekjal okay, time for sleep 03:42 rangi but yeah thats the idea with the Koha:: namespace 03:42 rangi with cgi not so much 03:42 rangi yup, with persistance a lot 03:40 eythian I wonder what sort of speed ups we'd get if we started passing things like item objects around, I reckon one issue must pull an item or a biblio from the database several times. 03:38 eythian oh well, before long, it'll be like that never happened :) 03:38 eythian ah, that'll do it. 03:38 rangi before someone decided lets have nulls 03:37 rangi it used to be the primary key 03:37 * eythian goes back to removing the assumptions that all items will have barcodes. 03:37 eythian public service announcement: things that are not primary keys should not be used as primary keys. 03:17 sekjal some of it can be handled with default values in the ACQ framework 03:17 eythian yeah, our one-branch libraries especially. 03:16 sekjal that introduces extra steps into the process, though, which can be a negative for some 03:15 eythian sekjal: there's an argument that things like that should be blank by default to force people to conciously choose something. 03:13 sekjal when placing an order for a new material, shouldn't the home and holding branch values default to the currently logged in branch? 03:12 sekjal can anyone in channel speak to the default values for new items created in Acquisitions? 02:43 jcamins_away :) 02:43 rangi there ya go :) 02:42 wahanui jcamins_away is probably not here, but you don't have to take my word for it! 02:42 jcamins_away wahanui: jcamins_away? 02:42 jcamins_away jcamins_away is probably not here, but you don't have to take \my word for it! 02:42 wahanui jcamins_away: I forgot jcamins_away 02:42 jcamins_away wahanui: forget jcamins_away 02:42 rangi try 02:42 jcamins_away Hm. 02:42 rangi :) 02:42 wahanui jcamins_away is probably not here, but you don't have to take jcamins_away's word for it! 02:42 jcamins_away jcamins_away? 02:42 jcamins_away jcamins_away is probably not here, but you don't have to take my word for it! 02:42 wahanui jcamins_away: I forgot jcamins_away 02:42 jcamins_away wahanui: forget jcamins_away 02:41 rangi hmm jransom even 02:41 wahanui jcamins_away is, like, currently working on fixing a bug. or building packages, which have a number of changes from Master that could never make it into Koha proper (for good reason) 02:41 rangi heya jcamins_away 02:41 eythian http://youtu.be/Y4Q4tirAOmU 02:08 rangi heh 02:07 jcamins_away rangi++ 02:07 jcamins_away :) 02:07 jcamins_away rangi: argh! You had to wait until *after* I spent hours figuring out how to deal with whitespace errors to post that exceedingly informative blog post? 02:06 eythian I'm not sure. I just saw that when grepping to see how it was used. 02:05 jcamins_away eythian: didn't there used to be two versions of that routine? 02:05 jcamins_away eythian: whoah! 01:58 eythian holy dubious semantics batman! 01:58 eythian opac/sco/sco-main.pl: my ($renewokay, $renewerror) = CanBookBeIssued($borrower, $it->{'barcode'},'',''); 01:58 eythian opac/sco/sco-main.pl: ( $impossible, $needconfirm ) = CanBookBeIssued( $borrower, $barcode ); 01:58 * eythian changes that 01:52 eythian it annoys me that 'CanBookBeIssued' looks up the item number, and doesn't return it, requiring it to be looked up again. 01:48 BobB Its a great resource. 01:48 BobB exactly, I was showing one of our people a feature we'd like to replicate. Now looking on his blog to find the 'how to'. 01:48 jcamins_away He does a lot of new and awesome things. 01:47 jcamins_away BobB: you could've been pointing out something new and awesome that oleonard did. 01:47 BobB Doh! 01:46 BobB I put that in the wrong channel, sorry. 01:46 BobB LOL jcamins_away 01:46 jcamins_away BobB: what should I be looking at? 01:44 BobB http://search.myacpl.org/ 01:05 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7361] 'Default' encoding in staged marc import breaks diacritics <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7361> 00:56 eythian http://youtu.be/S6LqcAlygNw 00:17 rangi 5 hours ish 00:15 rhcl pretty quiet here rangi. How long before the Europeans start waking up?