Time Nick Message 23:18 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7157] Improve the j2a.pl cronjob <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7157> 23:13 libsysguy wizzyrea** 23:13 libsysguy laterz qizz 23:11 wizzyrea for real 23:11 wizzyrea now I"m gone 23:11 wizzyrea for me 23:11 wizzyrea www2 23:09 rangi cya wizzyrea 23:08 wizzyrea or later, who knows. 23:08 wizzyrea until tomorrow! 23:08 wizzyrea ok and with that, I bid you all good evening. 22:58 libsysguy yeah...I'm trying to make it as easy to maintain as possible 22:57 maximep but yeah, I see your problem if yiou have to do them manually :/ 22:57 maximep I dont think it impacts usability 22:56 maximep yeah I like the images, except the one with a fake youtube video :S 22:56 libsysguy well it impacts the maintainability...lib uses all dynamic menu's...www2 has to be done by hand 22:55 eythian I think they look better, but I suspect it'll impact their usability. 22:54 libsysguy eythian and maximep do you like the images and multicolumns in the www2 site? 22:53 libsysguy I think i can fix that gap 22:53 libsysguy went ahead and changed that dropdown speed 22:53 libsysguy I'm acutally not much for that either 22:52 eythian also, I don't like the couple-mm gap between the top of the drop-down and the menu bar. 22:52 eythian but I have good internet here 22:52 libsysguy ok well that is very fixable 22:52 eythian oh wait, probably slower load time 22:52 libsysguy ahh 22:52 maximep exactly 22:51 eythian as in, there's no fade-in 22:51 eythian no (well yes) but faster access time 22:51 libsysguy faster load time? 22:51 eythian also it looks a little cleaner. 22:51 eythian me too, mostly for the same reason 22:51 maximep because it's faster 22:51 maximep well, I prefer the www2 22:49 libsysguy sorry about that maximep 22:48 libsysguy phew not mine :p 22:48 maximep no prob in ff 22:48 maximep the www2 22:48 maximep first one in opera 22:48 libsysguy the www2 or the lib site? 22:48 libsysguy o.m.g 22:48 maximep :S 22:48 maximep for some reason it started downloading a thousand images 22:48 wahanui which one is probably it 22:48 libsysguy which one? 22:47 maximep wow, it almost crashed my browser 22:46 libsysguy (by primary menu I mean that orange bar) 22:45 libsysguy ok random question about menu's which primary menu do you like better http://www2.uttyler.edu/ or http://lib.uttyler.edu 22:44 wahanui Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world. 22:44 eythian wahanui: germs? 22:42 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn`. 22:42 huginn` wizzyrea: Quote #51: "jwagner thinks true joy is not wanting to do a telecon, and finding out the other person has forgotten about it & left for the day :-)" (added by a user that is no longer registered at 07:35 PM, January 20, 2010) 22:42 wizzyrea @quote random 22:42 libsysguy haha that one is good 22:41 wizzyrea oh I love that one. 22:41 huginn` wizzyrea: Quote #148: "<oleonard> sekjal wants EVERYTHING in a matrix! <sekjal> I'm like the Anti-Neo" (added by wizzyrea at 05:11 PM, August 25, 2011) 22:41 wizzyrea @quote random 22:41 wizzyrea hehe 22:41 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn`. 22:41 huginn` libsysguy: Quote #92: "<schuster> Why even learn when there is a genius in the room..." (added by jwagner at 01:43 PM, August 27, 2010) 22:41 libsysguy @quote random 22:41 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn`. 22:41 huginn` libsysguy: Error: The command "random" is available in the Factoids and Quote plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "random". 22:41 libsysguy @random quote 22:40 libsysguy i wonder if we could alias a command in wahanui so that when you say forget *something* it says "I'm afraid I can't do that, <username>" 22:33 wizzyrea well, that works for me anyway 22:32 wizzyrea :) 22:32 aarkerio thanks pals! 22:32 aarkerio well, I can add the SQL to reports, is OK 22:32 wahanui wizzyrea: I forgot in there 22:32 wizzyrea forget in there 22:31 wizzyrea for get in there 22:31 wahanui i heard in there was the command to rebuild the indexes 22:31 wizzyrea in there 22:31 wizzyrea no, you have to put the biblionumber of the bib you are looking for 22:31 wizzyrea oh 22:30 wizzyrea hm 22:30 aarkerio if I set "biblio" or "item" as Object I get "No log found" 22:28 wizzyrea all fields are optional 22:28 wizzyrea that's the borrowernumber of the librarian - but I don't think you need it 22:28 aarkerio what should I set in "Librarian" ? (Browse system logs) 22:27 wizzyrea so a biblio 22:27 aarkerio mmm, a MARC record 22:26 wizzyrea you want to know who added an item or a biblio? 22:25 aarkerio I guess biblio is the new MARC 22:25 aarkerio I see only "biblio" and "item" objects 22:23 wizzyrea usually the object number is the biblionumber 22:23 wizzyrea you weren't able to get it out of the tools -> log? 22:23 aarkerio SELECT AL.timestamp, B.firstname FROM action_logs AS AL, borrowers AS B WHERE AL.info='item' AND B.borrowernumber = AL.user ORDER BY B.firstname; 22:23 aarkerio I got it: 22:20 wizzyrea :) 22:20 aarkerio that is much better! 22:20 wahanui schema is probably tracked in git. or found at http://schema.koha-community.org 22:20 wizzyrea schema? 22:20 wizzyrea aarkeri 22:20 aarkerio an image of koha database design exist in the wiki? 22:13 wahanui wizzyrea: I forgot borrowers 22:13 wizzyrea forget borrowers 22:13 aarkerio thanks again! 22:13 wahanui it has been said that borrowers is the same 22:13 libsysguy aarkerio: borrowers 22:13 aarkerio in what table is the username saved? 22:10 cait ibeardslee: I won't :) 22:10 wizzyrea bye jcamins 22:10 mbalmer that must be tiles…. 22:10 jcamins Time for me to go. 22:10 wizzyrea she forgot to turn the oven on. 22:10 ibeardslee don't get too many brownie crumbs in bed 22:10 mbalmer that was like 3 hours? 22:10 mbalmer cait, so long for brownies? 22:10 wizzyrea bye cait :) 22:09 cait time to go - night all! 22:09 * wizzyrea too 22:09 cait yay! 22:09 * ibeardslee assumes that ~ meant /home/libsysguy 22:09 cait brownies finally done 22:09 wizzyrea in a directory called biblios 22:09 wizzyrea unless you've got your indexes sitting directly in ~ 22:09 ibeardslee yeah but that further away from / rather than closer 22:08 libsysguy for recursive 22:08 libsysguy yeah but it was a -r 22:08 ibeardslee hmm I find it unusual to think that prod data (even if they are just indexes) would live in ~ 22:06 libsysguy it was most certainly a case of tab confusion 22:06 libsysguy negative 22:06 wizzyrea ^^ is what she was asking 22:06 cait and I don't assume you had planned to do what you ended up doing 22:06 wahanui i heard the first question was "What are you trying to do?" 22:06 wizzyrea the first question 22:06 * libsysguy shakes head 22:06 cait I saw that 22:06 libsysguy yeah i am 22:05 libsysguy cait: i ran rm -rf biblios* from ~ 22:05 sekjal libsysguy: if you're running hourly loans, you're a git install 22:05 libsysguy crap I don't think I am 22:04 wizzyrea http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Recovering_from_a_corrupted_zebra_index 22:04 wahanui package info is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.4_on_Debian_Squeeze 22:04 libsysguy packages 22:04 wizzyrea your'e not running packages? It actually backs up the indexes. 22:04 cait what did you want to do if I may ask that? 22:04 wizzyrea ^^ 22:03 cait start the reindex first 22:03 cait lol 22:03 libsysguy haha yeah ill just go take a run...away from Margo 22:03 wizzyrea < has experience with this technique 22:03 wizzyrea do this: go out the back door, have a freak out, then come in and fix it :) 22:02 libsysguy gracias 22:02 * wizzyrea gets libsysguy a paper bag 22:02 * libsysguy procedes to hyperventelate 22:02 wizzyrea from great mistakes come great learning. 22:02 wizzyrea breathe* 22:02 libsysguy im the best guy ever 22:02 wizzyrea libsysguy: breath chum. 22:02 libsysguy during finals... 22:02 jcamins libsysguy: you deleted the indexes, most likely. 22:01 libsysguy or sweet baby jesus why 22:01 wizzyrea that's most likely even. 22:01 cait yep 22:01 wizzyrea you may have to reindex 22:01 cait koha-dev zebra biblios maybe 22:01 libsysguy yeah maybe 22:01 cait hm, killed zebra stuff perhaps? 22:01 libsysguy so it could have gotten to kohaclone or oha-dev 22:01 wizzyrea oh 22:01 wizzyrea in what directory? 22:01 libsysguy like an ITIOT... 22:00 libsysguy and i ran it from ~ 22:00 libsysguy becuase now searching is broken 22:00 libsysguy i accidentally ran rm -rf biblios* on my prod box...I killed it before it finished it but i think it still got something 22:00 wizzyrea I'm begging you. 22:00 wizzyrea no please, butt in. 22:00 wizzyrea uhoh 22:00 libsysguy ok not to butt in here but I feel like i have royally messed up 21:59 wizzyrea :) 21:59 aarkerio thanks! 21:57 wizzyrea no, i ^^ what he said 21:57 jcamins Tools > Log viewer 21:57 jcamins aarkerio: no, in the database. 21:57 aarkerio do you mean a text file? 21:56 wizzyrea actionlogs by biblionumber 21:56 wizzyrea should be in the logs 21:56 aarkerio hi! there is a way to know who add a Marc record? 21:50 wizzyrea Oh, a raw nerve thing. 21:49 mbalmer I am just so tired of that jokes. 21:49 wizzyrea clearly. 21:49 mbalmer wizzyrea, it's ok. 21:49 mbalmer jcamins, please tell that do the folks that make fun of balmerisms 21:49 * wizzyrea apologizes if I upset you 21:48 wizzyrea Actually, I did. 21:48 jcamins mbalmer: we do our best to be civil on #koha. 21:48 mbalmer I did not choose my family name, did you? 21:48 mbalmer and your remarks are just plain stupid. 21:47 wizzyrea no, a martician is a retail clerk from mars. 21:47 mbalmer Steve Ballmer has two 'l's, mbalmer has one. 21:47 mbalmer a martician is an embalmer. I am mbalmer. 21:46 wahanui interesting is sometimes bad or sometimes good 21:46 wizzyrea interesting. 21:46 mbalmer sorry, but I think you are a bit retarded. 21:45 wizzyrea ok, every time mbalmer comes in I think 2 things: 1. are you a mortician? and 2. are you related to steve ballmer because if it's #2 -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zEQhhaJsU4 this springs to mind. 21:42 ibeardslee hehe 21:42 jcamins wizzyrea: there was eggnog. Who could tell what the temperature actually was? ;) 21:42 wizzyrea :) 21:41 wizzyrea hmm i imagine your house wasn't very warm with the oven off. 21:41 ibeardslee I did that at my house warming a few years back .. quite embarrassing that the chicken nibbles were taking so long to cook 21:41 wizzyrea it never hurts. 21:41 cait you think alcohol is going to fix it? 21:41 librarygeekadam its my first time on here and I really appreciate the help. I will definitely come back if I have questions :) thank you again 21:41 * wizzyrea sends cait egg nog 21:41 ibeardslee oops 21:41 * wizzyrea has done that 21:40 * cait has to wait another 30 minutes for the brownies... because she forgot to turn on the oven... 21:40 wizzyrea sure. 21:40 librarygeekadam I appreciate it 21:40 librarygeekadam awesome 21:40 wizzyrea but most of it does. 21:40 wizzyrea now, not all of that applies 21:40 jcamins cait: yes, exactly. 21:40 wizzyrea criminy. sorry 21:40 wizzyrea oh 21:39 cait scrolling down first... 21:39 wizzyrea http://kudos.koha-community.org/wp-content/uploads/OPAC-Customization-1.pdf 21:39 cait hm 21:39 librarygeekadam sure 21:39 cait like a screenshot in a word document? 21:39 wizzyrea http://kudos.koha-community.org/wp-content/uploads/OPAC-Customization-1.pdf 21:39 librarygeekadam ok 21:39 wizzyrea one more place 21:39 wizzyrea sec 21:39 librarygeekadam cool...thank you very much 21:39 jcamins librarygeekadam: ^^ that site. 21:38 wahanui oleonard's blog is http://www.myacpl.org/koha 21:38 jcamins oleonard's blog? 21:38 jcamins rhcl: only sillier. 21:38 librarygeekadam would anyone be able to direct me to a site that gives some good steps on making Koha unique. I just installed it on a laptop for testing and I would like to really make a good impression on the people that make decisions. 21:38 rhcl is that like ssh over http? 21:38 * jcamins finds it ironic that he just received a tweet (i.e. Twitter tweet) on a mailing list. 21:37 rhcl presentation proposal done, time for a coffee/hamburger/brownie break 21:33 rangi i dunno how can't morphed into cran 21:33 rangi heh 21:33 wizzyrea is that like cran-apple? 21:32 * wizzyrea has never had cran-remember 21:32 rangi i cran remember 21:20 wizzyrea where was chris_n's tools repo again? 21:18 cait you still were fast enough :) 21:17 cait lol 21:16 wizzyrea lol, what sucks is that I was ready but I kept typoing bye! 21:15 wizzyrea Bye! 21:15 oleonard Bye all 21:01 cait but not in general 21:01 cait have to research that 21:01 cait about uk 21:01 cait rhcl: I don't know abou tuk 20:58 jcamins It's now the history *brush*. 20:58 oleonard That seems unlikely 20:57 jcamins Argh! Did they eliminate the history eraser in Photoshop? 20:56 wizzyrea this channel just became like wikipedia - it all ends up with marie antoinette's underwear. 20:55 rhcl jcamins: I think a famous headless French woman once suggested something similar. 20:55 jcamins rhcl: no one ever stopped me carrying homemade cookies into Scotland. 20:54 rhcl Aren't there like, really strict import restrictions in Europe? Can you carry non-commercial food from country to country? 20:54 jcamins rhcl: eat brownies? 20:53 rhcl_away Well, if my library doesn't stock hamburgers...what am I supposed to do? 20:52 wizzyrea O.o 20:50 ibeardslee are they 'special' brownies that you wouldn't be able to get past the sniffer dogs? 20:49 cait I would be willing to carry some to scotland 20:49 gmcharlt jcamins: international ILL requests? those can get expensive ;) 20:49 cait you have to come and get htem 20:49 cait lol 20:49 * cait eyes her work suspiciously 20:49 * jcamins submits an ILL request for brownies from cait. 20:49 cait they smell good 20:49 * jcamins thinks brownies would be sufficient. 20:49 cait brownies and fudge? 20:48 cait hehe 20:48 * jcamins wonders why someone would want to ILL hamburgers. 20:48 rhcl_away *wonders if it would be possible to add a Koha feature to ILL brownies and hamburgers from another library 20:21 chris_n hey cait 20:21 cait jcamins++ ! 20:20 cait time to get the brownies out of the oven :) 20:20 oleonard Hey, jcamins did the hard parts! 20:20 cait ok 20:20 cait hi chris_n :) 20:20 chris_n oleonard++ 20:20 moodaepo cait++ : ) 20:19 rangi lol 20:19 cait there is always a reason 20:19 cait rangi++ 20:18 cait oleonard++! :) 20:18 moodaepo rangi++ # on a totally different note 20:15 rangi very cool 20:15 moodaepo oleonard++ 20:15 jcamins oleonard++ 20:15 jcamins Nice! 20:14 * moodaepo I guess spring is a little early 20:13 wizzyrea guys! that's awesome! 20:13 oleonard http://screencast.com/t/uk3ywETD 20:13 huginn` moodaepo: The current temperature in MSU Physics Dept, Mankato, Minnesota is 4.4�C (2:10 PM CST on December 12, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: 3.0�C. Windchill: 3.0�C. Pressure: 30.14 in 1020.5 hPa (Rising). 20:13 moodaepo @wunder 56001 20:09 jcamins oleonard: yeah, the plan was to have it random, but I had issues figuring out random, and decided that was a good "exercise for the interested reader." 20:09 cait and I am too tired to start on something else too 20:08 cait they are for the xmas party tomorrow 20:08 cait let's hope they work 20:08 cait no more ingredients... 20:08 cait lol 20:08 oleonard cait: You may have to specify multiple sources for your brownies in case the first one fails. 20:08 * cait wonders if these brownies are going to work out 20:07 cait some way to mark one as primary? 20:07 cait hm 20:06 oleonard jcamins: I wonder if it's necessary to have some mechanism to specify which of multiple images is the primary one. I'm assuming right now the primary one is whichever was added first? 20:04 rhcl_away Well, I hate most animated gifs, but sometimes image cycling is OK 20:04 cait heh 20:04 jcamins Unless it's a cute cat. 20:03 cait everything that moves is eew 20:03 cait I agree 20:02 jcamins rhcl_away: that seems like it would be really annoying. 20:02 rhcl_away 'allow multiple cover images to coexist" =? display cycling through multiple images, � la animated gifs 19:59 rangi potentially, but if you did it ajaxly, it wouldnt/shouldnt slow the page down 19:59 cait ajax? 19:59 cait no idea 19:58 oleonard Seems like you'd have to have JavaScript querying one service after another looking for a valid image, and wouldn't that take forever? 19:57 cait perhaps giving it a priority list? 19:50 jcamins I have no idea. 19:50 oleonard I wonder how that would work 19:49 jcamins kmkale is working on a follow-up that will allow multiple cover images to coexist, apparently. 19:49 jcamins oleonard: that's correct. 19:49 oleonard jcamins: In its present state is this preference intended to work in isolation, not in conjunction with other services? 19:47 jcamins And I'm photographing a collection on Wednesday. 19:47 jcamins Not that much of the code ended up in the final version, but at least the idea was present. 19:46 jcamins oleonard: well, I had kmkale's patch as a starting point. 19:46 oleonard jcamins you must have really gotten a bee in your bonnet about images over the weekend to have done all that work 19:45 rangi :) 19:45 oleonard I wouldn't go that far, but I'm working on it :) 19:44 jcamins oleonard++ # for making the image viewer beautiful 19:05 jcamins Mmm. Brownies. 19:05 * cait goes back to destroying her kitchen with brownie baking 19:04 cait rangi++ indeed 19:03 oleonard rangi++ # for lots of signoffs 18:45 francharb thanks rangi 18:45 francharb p 18:45 francharb i will ask paul_ 18:44 huginn` 04Bug 7342: critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, alex.arnaud, ASSIGNED , aqbudgets statistics doesn't work when using Authorized values on sort1_authcat or sort2_authcat 18:44 francharb before signing off this patch http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7342 18:44 francharb and aqorders.sort1authcat doesnt look like relevent 18:43 francharb to me, it makes sense this way 18:43 francharb orderline 18:43 francharb and aqorder.sort1 for the value you put within the orderling 18:43 francharb i think aqbudget.sort1_authcat would be for the authorised value category linked to the sort1 field... 18:41 francharb hehe 18:41 rangi not me, but I think it was a biblibre thing, so ask around :) 18:40 francharb koha also have sort1_authcat within aqbudgets table 18:39 francharb within aqorders? 18:39 francharb anyone knows the difference between sort1 and sort1_authcat 18:39 francharb i've got a question about aqorders 18:39 francharb hey there 18:31 rhcl_away BTW, tcohen, you handled the window Koha issue well 18:31 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7082 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED , Template improvements for better translatability 18:31 jenkins_koha Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7082: Template improvements for better translatability 18:31 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #566: STILL UNSTABLE in 52 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/566/ 18:25 tcohen nevermind, just found it 18:23 tcohen directions? 18:23 tcohen i'd like to checkout the koha/solr code from biblibre 18:00 fabio_t bye! 17:46 cait back #koha 17:40 rangi broke the labels test 17:40 rangi patch for bug 7215 17:39 jenkins_koha Starting build 566 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #564 2 h 0 mn ago) 17:39 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7336 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , memberentry.pl generates an error in the log 17:39 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7215 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, brendan, ASSIGNED , callnumber versus itemcallnumber 17:39 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 7336 - memberentry.pl generates an error in the log 17:39 jenkins_koha * info: Bug 7215 - changed callnumber PRESET field to itemcallnumber 17:39 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #565: UNSTABLE in 53 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/565/ 16:54 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7082: Template improvements for better translatability <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=57800f2af22e496ecc113672c64de0b25c497bbf> / Bug 7336 - memberentry.pl generates an error in the log <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1fb0351979637626a8b2310209edf851689f8342> 16:51 nengard thanks all 16:51 nengard okay, i'll post to koha dev to ask for manual update assistance! 16:51 kf bye all :) 16:51 kf have to go food shopping - have to make some kind of dessert for our xmas party tomorrow :) 16:51 kf we don't use that function, so I am not sure what is best 16:51 kf so making clear there are options perhaps? 16:51 kf i think it is required if you set it to dontmerge 16:50 kf and the table has a similar function than zebraqueue has 16:50 nengard but shouldn't we update the preference to make it clear that it's not required? 16:50 nengard kf that looks promising 16:50 kf comment 26 16:50 kf seems you can do both 16:49 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6094 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED , Fixing ModAuthority problems 16:49 kf bug 6094 16:49 nengard it sounds like we need a manual update big time and an update to the preference description in Koha so that people know that there is no cron 16:49 jcamins nengard: I have no idea, then. 16:49 nengard and does that database table actually do the merging? or just sit there? 16:48 jcamins kf: oh, maybe. 16:48 kf let me find it 16:48 kf authorities that need to be merged 16:48 jcamins kf: I'm sure you know what I meant. 16:48 * Brooke is reminded of all the stray wiring connected to nothing in her old house... 16:48 jcamins kf: for what? 16:48 jcamins kf: a new table in what? 16:48 jcamins nengard: that's my assumption. 16:48 kf I thought someone (marcel?) did some work on that 16:48 kf jcamins: isn't there a new table in the database? 16:47 nengard so that preference doesn't work at all 16:47 nengard what??? 16:47 jcamins I just don't think it's still there. 16:47 jcamins nengard: oh, it's still required. 16:47 nengard cause i still calls for it 16:47 nengard then we need to update the preference 16:47 jcamins nengard: the cron job doesn't exist anymore, I don't think. 16:47 jcamins oleonard: thanks. 16:46 nengard and that the preference description in Koha is right 16:46 kf bye all 16:46 nengard and need to make sure the manual is up to date 16:46 nengard I'm hearing conflicting things 16:46 nengard question about the dontmerge preference - it says you need a cron job to get it to work is that true? 16:46 * paul_p switches to mode "QAing" (as there are no more patches to push, except those with an updatedatabase, that I keep for the new updatedatabase system 16:45 oleonard jcamins: The Edit->Upload image menu item is a nice touch 16:45 jenkins_koha Starting build 565 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED) 16:44 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7215 - changed callnumber PRESET field to itemcallnumber <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b255d091fdbfecf1dd82475052ad966546a76e7f> 16:42 jcamins paul_p: yeah, that's why I decided to use atomicupdate. 16:41 paul_p (and with the new updatedatabase system, that will be automatically done !) 16:41 paul_p when there is an atomicupdate, I just perl atomicupdate/nameoftheupdate.pl 16:41 paul_p forget ! 16:41 paul_p oups, sorry, I mixed 2 things... 16:40 paul_p jcamins, prove blabla 16:40 jcamins paul_p: then how does it get run when it's committed? 16:39 paul_p nope, I don't. rangi told me he made a pre-commit git hook, I didn't 16:38 jcamins I think paul_p does something to make it run automatically. 16:38 jcamins oleonard: I just run it directly. 16:36 Brooke kia ora 16:34 oleonard jcamins: Do I just run it? 16:34 wizzyrea hehe 16:34 paul_p wizzyrea, was about to hit "send" when you woohooed me. I've changed a little bit my email ;-) 16:34 oleonard jcamins: I'm starting to test your local cover images patch but I forget how to use an atomicupdate script 16:33 wizzyrea :) 16:33 kf ignore me 16:33 fabio_t good evening #koha! 16:33 kf sorry, misread 16:33 kf oh 16:33 kf wizzyrea: I think jenkins is not done yet 16:33 wizzyrea weeeeird 16:32 paul_p wizzyrea, nope. I made nothing ! 16:32 wizzyrea woohoo! paul_p++ 16:32 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7198 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED , overdue report does not display patron name if firstname and/or surname are null 16:31 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7159 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, wizzyrea, ASSIGNED , Add branchcode to circulation.pl search 16:31 jenkins_koha * gmc: bug 7198: show patron name in overdue list even if name column is null 16:31 jenkins_koha * lrea: Bug 7159 - Add branchcode to circulation.pl search (take two, revising with Owen's suggestion) 16:31 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #564: FIXED in 53 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/564/ 16:31 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed! 16:30 slef wizzyrea++ 16:30 * wizzyrea hates that. 16:30 wizzyrea most of the ones that are super critical. 16:30 slef grrrrrr what bloody business insists on phone contact yet closes their phones at 4pm? 16:30 wizzyrea for a mac anyway 16:30 wizzyrea really, it's the simplest. 16:29 wizzyrea iphoto :P 16:29 jcamins wizzyrea: yeah, but I didn't know what program to use. 16:28 kf tcohen++ 16:27 wizzyrea small box, not a big box. 16:27 wizzyrea or also, a card reader - I have a 20 in 1 that is about the size of a box of matches. 16:26 wizzyrea also good: plug it in via the usb cable :P 16:26 jcamins Thanks. 16:26 jcamins Ah, good call. 16:26 nengard i put the sd card in to the card reader and copy them 16:25 jcamins nengard: how do you get the photos you take on your camera onto your Mac? 16:25 nengard yes 16:25 jcamins nengard: around? 16:19 reiveune bye 16:17 oleonard tcohen++ # for reporting on the Koha for Windows web page issue 16:15 oleonard That was my initial thought as well 16:14 wizzyrea if you want 16:14 wizzyrea the OEMs can put android on, but you can just as easily nuke that off and put on your super open WebOS 16:14 wizzyrea is that WebOS becomes the hacker's mobile platform 16:14 wizzyrea what I'm hoping 16:12 wizzyrea hehe np 16:12 * wizzyrea found it 16:12 slef I meant to get you the actual link :) 16:12 slef http://www.andrewsavory.com/blog/2011/2168 16:11 slef oops 16:11 slef http://www.andrewsavory.com/blog/ 16:11 slef wizzyrea: have you seen what my former colleague savs wrote? I'm on a similar page. 16:11 wizzyrea hehe no 16:11 slef cool. Just checking they weren't a kids toy :) 16:11 wizzyrea I think it's kind of cool. 16:11 wizzyrea what do you think about hp open sourcing WebOS? 16:10 wizzyrea oh slef 16:10 wizzyrea they are the new model of the android tablet I have 16:10 slef is transformer primes a model? 16:10 wizzyrea were supposed to be out before xmas - but now delayed until beginning of year 16:09 wizzyrea transformer primes are delayed though :( 16:07 wizzyrea i have a bit of envy ;) 16:07 wizzyrea I have an asus tablet that I adore, and trea has an asus ultrabook type lappy that is super swank. 16:06 slef kf: good spotting. Thanks. 16:06 slef wizzyrea: it's like what they made just as they started to figure out what they were doing 16:06 wizzyrea :) 16:06 slef wizzyrea: I think you might find it on antiques.asus.com 16:05 jcamins Ohh, cool! 16:05 slef wizzyrea: m5n 16:05 * wizzyrea was thinking of buying an asus lapotp 16:05 wizzyrea slef which asus computer do you have? 16:04 slef seems like dpavlin may be the most knowledgeable 16:04 kf slef: there is a new bug for ti too - seems it's still workign :) 16:03 * slef says it in a wahanui-friendly way 16:03 slef The svc API is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_/svc/_HTTP_API 16:03 kf that page is very recent 16:03 slef http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_/svc/_HTTP_API 16:03 jcamins I'm not even sure what it's for. 16:02 slef Has anyone used the svc API recently? 16:00 slef hey, you can flash it from dos... that's better than needing to have Windows, which is often the case 16:00 jcamins Hmmm. I think perhaps I'd better avoid ASUS MBs. 15:59 slef jcamins: I suspect you can some BIOSes, but not this asus one. 15:59 slef the system hangs for like 5s at random intervals 15:59 jcamins You still can't flash a BIOS from Linux? 15:59 jcamins Buggy BIOS? 15:59 jcamins [off] slef: yeah, basically. He's our main contact. 15:59 jcamins *come to the 15:59 jcamins [off] slef: and when board meetings are held is apparently a secret. I have to the conclusion that they're doing the co-operativeness bit wrong. 15:58 slef want to upgrade it to see if that stops it hanging, need to mess with freedos to do that, so waiting until after my next meeting before potentially breaking it all 15:58 slef argh the buggy BIOS on this PC is bugging me! 15:57 slef [off] jcamins: wtf is the broker? Like a Lettings Agent does for us? 15:56 wizzyrea since on a normal day the tests pass on him just fine. 15:56 wizzyrea which probably has all the stuff in it already. 15:56 jcamins [off] slef: in the ongoing saga of our co-op application, the broker has announced that it will take another two months for us to hear from the management. After assuring us we'd know a week or at most two after we submitted it. 15:56 wizzyrea or, we dump out the jenkins DB :p 15:56 slef great venue... a bit overstretched admin 15:55 wizzyrea (I'm working on getting a db ready that will have everything in it to make the unit tests pass when things are working correctly) 15:55 slef I'm as frustrated as anyone that it's not sorted yet but it is worth it. 15:55 wizzyrea I suspect that the reason I'm having trouble with the test is that I don't have the right things in my DB 15:55 jcamins Fair enough. 15:54 wizzyrea hdl - where does one define the stopwords? 15:54 slef as soon as we get the venue fixed, I'll tell everyone... 15:54 * jcamins 's bated breath is running out. Don't keep us in suspense! :D 15:54 slef s/run/journey 15:53 wizzyrea weekends_off++ 15:53 jcamins slef: good for you. 15:53 slef But seriously, I was doing another coast-to-coast run on Friday and then took my first weekend off in quite some time :) 15:53 jcamins Mostly. 15:53 * jcamins is patient. 15:53 slef I've never been on IRC every day. Find me on xmpp/jabber if you want me sooner ;) 15:52 jcamins Well, 5 days. 15:52 jcamins :P 15:52 jcamins slef: that was a week ago. 15:52 * wizzyrea was going to give him a minute to get comfy in his chair. 15:52 slef jcamins: bah. I was in the meeting last week. 15:52 * jcamins waits eagerly for news about the conference. :) 15:52 jcamins Ooh! It's a rare slef sighting! 15:52 wizzyrea hi slef 15:51 slef hi all 15:51 kf but not looking at the code, only thinking I remember a conversation about this 15:50 kf that was my last information and the syspref changed accordingly 15:50 kf hm, I thought it was deactivated 15:50 paul_p hdl1, yep, my feeling too 15:50 paul_p (trying prove ...) 15:50 hdl1 paul_p: as far as i know, stopwords are still used when QueryRemoveStopwords is on even with zebra. 15:50 * paul_p feel this is wrong : Use of uninitialized value within @_ in lc at /home/paul/koha.dev/koha-community//C4/Context.pm line 466. 15:48 paul_p strange... no change in XISBN test since ... january... 15:48 wizzyrea sure :) 15:47 * paul_p now investigate jenkins failure... 15:47 * paul_p feel this comment on the syspref is wrong. But not sure. wizzyrea could you drop a mail to koha-devel pls ? 15:45 paul_p checking if it's true or not 15:45 paul_p which says "Only applies when Zebra is off" 15:45 paul_p wizzyrea, seems _remove_stopwords in C4/Search.pm is still used if QueryRemoveStopwords is set 15:45 wizzyrea running it manually doesn't get that same result, but it does fail 15:44 paul_p will investigate 15:44 paul_p bad plan usually mean you've announced X tests at the beginning of your test plan, and you have M (M<>N) 15:44 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: bug 7198: show patron name in overdue list even if name column is null <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=18e06ecf0bfeeefd08575d0512891bea52bc1bde> / Bug 7159 - Add branchcode to circulation.pl search (take two, revising with Owen... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4fad65cc269b049043da2841b491b3c0132ff0e6> 15:44 mbalmer schnauze voll,feierabend 15:42 wizzyrea oh, no. The tests for xisbn died prematurely. 15:42 kf hm? 15:41 wizzyrea that looks like a test plan failure. 15:41 wizzyrea hmm 15:41 * wizzyrea was just about to look into it 15:40 kf oh no, going unstable again :( 15:40 wizzyrea I did it last week :)_ 15:40 * paul_p investigates 15:40 paul_p about stopwords, I don't know 15:40 wizzyrea no, they don't 15:39 paul_p wizzyrea, chris told me those tests should pass if you just have your database with all the sample sql provided in installer/data/mysql/en 15:38 jenkins_koha Starting build 564 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #562 3 j 0 h ago) 15:38 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7124 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Back to search wrapping in lower resolutions 15:38 jenkins_koha oleonard: Fix for Bug 7124 - back to search wrapping in lower resolutions 15:38 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #563: UNSTABLE in 53 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/563/ 15:35 wizzyrea is that right? 15:35 wizzyrea but we can't do that anymore 15:35 wizzyrea I suspect that it needs to have stopwords defined 15:34 wizzyrea I can't tell what my db needs to have in it to pass those tests 15:34 wizzyrea tests in db_dependent/Search.t 15:34 wizzyrea question for you regarding the test for Search.t 15:34 paul_p what's the question ? 15:34 wizzyrea :D 15:34 wizzyrea oh goodie 15:34 paul_p yep 15:33 wizzyrea ? 15:33 wizzyrea paul_p, about 15:31 wizzyrea it does that 15:30 wizzyrea yes. 15:27 kf wizzyrea: last time I listened to it the song followed me for a week 15:26 wizzyrea I may have to listen to this to get me in the mood: http://soundcloud.com/dubstep/pumped-up-kicks-by-foster-the 15:25 wizzyrea not a high bar. :P 15:25 wizzyrea I'd settle for "something that means something to somebody" 15:24 jcamins :D 15:24 * jcamins looks at what's on his docket for today. 15:24 wizzyrea well, revision 15:24 * jcamins too. 15:24 wizzyrea I'd settle for pretty darn neat. 15:24 wizzyrea hm 15:24 jcamins wizzyrea: something awesome? 15:23 * wizzyrea fails 15:23 * wizzyrea tries to remember what she was going to do this week 15:23 wizzyrea see the tuning posts. 15:23 wizzyrea ^^ 15:23 kf the default settings are not very good I was told 15:23 kf to make it work 15:23 kf I think you have to tell mysql to use that ram too 15:22 mbalmer maybe I am just a bit to much used to our own web frameworks, which are blazingly fast (written in C and Lua). But I found some RAMs that should fit and double the memory. 15:21 wahanui hmmm... database tuning is at http://libraryhacker.org/2011/03/15/defaulting-to-functional-but-slow/ and http://drupal.biblibre.com/en/blog/entry/mysql-default-config-and-very-large-koha-database 15:21 wizzyrea database tuning? 15:21 wizzyrea database tuning is at http://libraryhacker.org/2011/03/15/defaulting-to-functional-but-slow/ and http://drupal.biblibre.com/en/blog/entry/mysql-default-config-and-very-large-koha-database 15:19 wizzyrea and then there's paul_p's post in the comments 15:18 wizzyrea http://libraryhacker.org/2011/03/15/defaulting-to-functional-but-slow/ 15:17 wizzyrea 1s I'll find it 15:17 kf mysqltuner or something? 15:17 kf I think there is something in the mailing list archive 15:17 wizzyrea there are a few posts on how to configure mysql 15:17 libsysguy i knew i slept too long 15:17 kf it's late afternoon - you missed everything 15:17 oleonard Is there a wiki page on what the correct mysql configuration is? 15:16 libsysguy anything going on this morning :p 15:16 libsysguy hi kf :) 15:16 kf hi libsysguy :) 15:16 kf mbalmer: I think changing the default mysql configuration is good too 15:16 mbalmer it's a test/demo machine only. 15:15 wizzyrea so if you have some lying around I'd put it to work in your server. 15:15 wizzyrea koha benefits greatly from more memory 15:14 wizzyrea oh, that's why 15:14 mbalmer 3 (or 4) ghz pentium 4, 768MB ram 15:14 kf and there are seveal things you can do to improve performance 15:14 wizzyrea what kind of machine do you have it on 15:14 kf you can activate memcache 15:13 kf no mod_perl 15:13 mbalmer my "library" feels a bit slow 15:13 mbalmer oh, do I have to specifically enable mod_perl or is that on by default? 15:13 wizzyrea tinychat has video capabilities 15:13 wizzyrea what's the diff between tinychat and IRC? 15:12 * wizzyrea uses a mac and wouldn't use ichat. 15:12 kf what#s the difference to irc? 15:12 mbalmer for those that use macs 15:12 wizzyrea yeano 15:12 mbalmer iChat ;) 15:11 wizzyrea we could use something like tinychat instead 15:11 kf it will certainly not be mandatory 15:11 mbalmer I deleted my google accounts some weeks ago.. 15:11 mbalmer oh no. 15:11 kf but hanging out in general is good too 15:11 kf google+ hangout :) 15:10 mbalmer hang out sounds like about right ;) 15:09 wizzyrea O.o 15:09 magnuse wizzyrea: you don't want to know ;-) 15:08 * wizzyrea wonders what she's volunteering for 15:08 magnuse cool 15:08 kf and perhaps if we offer her fudge/chocolate/cookies wizzyrea will help too ;) 15:08 kf magnuse: or hangout... or whatever we come up with 15:07 wizzyrea hi :) 15:07 magnuse kia ora wizzyrea 15:02 magnuse so set a time and walk people through it on irc? 15:02 kf how to sign off etc. 15:02 magnuse ah, i should read up on that 15:02 kf to schedule testing tutorials 15:01 kf it was talked about at the irc meeting 15:01 magnuse kf tutorials? sure... what kind? 14:58 magnuse yay 14:58 wahanui next gbsd is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/2012-01-06_Global_bug_squashing_day 14:58 magnuse next gbsd? 14:58 magnuse next gbsd is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/2012-01-06_Global_bug_squashing_day 14:58 wahanui magnuse: I forgot next gbsd 14:58 magnuse wahanui: forget next gbsd 14:58 wahanui next gbsd is beginning of january? 14:58 magnuse next gbsd 14:58 magnuse next gbsd is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/2012-01-06_Global_bug_squashing_day 14:57 huginn` oleonard: I've exhausted my database of quotes 14:57 oleonard huginn`: Please pick one random, open, non-enhancement bug each day and complain hourly until it is fixed. 14:57 magnuse bah 14:57 wahanui next gbsd is beginning of january? 14:57 magnuse next gbsd 14:57 kf we should talk about tutorials before that :) 14:57 kf magnuse: next gbsd is beginning of january? 14:57 kf wonder who might be able to do something like that.... 14:56 kf "Bug of the day" 14:56 kf I like the idea actually 14:56 kf heh 14:54 * chris_n digs out his WONTFIX rubber-stamp 14:51 oleonard Or WONTFIXes it ;) 14:51 maximep until someone fixes it 14:51 maximep haha. Maybe they need to pick an old random bug and yell about it all day 14:50 oleonard Maybe we'd get even more done if robots were yelling at us more often. 14:48 maximep it was fun to see the community working together to make all the tests work on jenkins =) 14:47 magnuse SUCCESS - woo hoo! 14:45 jenkins_koha Starting build 563 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 14:40 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 7124 - back to search wrapping in lower resolutions <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a98219dc34a61806f856482ec68bcf27912270b6> 14:36 magnuse bonjour! 14:36 maximep hello! 14:35 kf hi maximep :) 14:34 kf :) all ok 14:34 kf I see. 14:34 kf ah a function 14:33 kf from your description, was wondering if that's the table name .) 14:33 wahanui kf is cait or really, really sweet. or <reply>she gives me memory loss 14:33 paul_p kf ?? 14:33 magnuse ? 14:32 kf list_versions_already_knows? :) 14:31 magnuse \o 14:31 magnuse paul_p++ 14:31 * paul_p go to mode "pushing patches..." 14:30 trea o/ 14:30 trea kf! magnuse! hi! 14:29 kf hi trea 14:29 magnuse o/ 14:19 kf nengard: ah, no. only if you want to :) I can add a signed off patch for frederic's part tonight. I forgot to sign-off before I added the follow up 14:18 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7338 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED , link to serial detail wrong 14:18 nengard kf do you still need me to test bug 7338 - can't tell from the comment stream 13:48 NateC greetigns kf! 13:48 JesseM hiya kf 13:47 kf hi NateC and JesseM :) 13:43 NateC kia ora magnuse! 13:43 magnuse kia ora NateC 13:40 pajinek paul_p: Hi Paul, thanks for advice. Now we try to find more people for translating. At the begining we will work on local system - we are only two. I will be bit patient. :) 13:39 * magnuse too 13:38 nengard me too! 13:38 kf nengard: :( hope you feel better soon and no more 'surprises' like that 13:37 nengard heh 13:37 jcamins nengard: maybe the receptionist also has an MD? 13:36 nengard hmmm .. doctor's office opens at 8:30 - but theyre not picking up at 8:34 ? grrr 13:31 magnuse there are some tips here: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Translating_Koha 13:30 paul_p (like poedit, localize, ...) 13:30 paul_p pajinek, note that, if you plan to work heavily on this translation, as you'll be alone at the beginning, it's much more efficient to work on your local computer, with a standard po editor 13:30 pajinek magnuse: yes, it was first activity, that i did. 13:29 paul_p magnuse, I think so. pajinek just be a little bit patient, and Frédéric, our translation manager should take care of you 13:29 magnuse someone will pick that up and set up the files for you 13:29 paul_p hi pajinek, here is Paul, from France 13:29 magnuse pajinek: you already sent an email to the translate-list right? 13:27 pajinek Hi, we would like to work on translate for czech language. We use koha for a faculty's library. Can you help me, how we can do it? We registered in translate.koha-community.org. Thanks. 13:27 nengard on the plus side - I get to stay home this week - and the airline didn't charge me for cancelling since I fly them all the time and never cancel and have a good excuse :) 13:26 nengard :) 13:24 * magnuse too 13:22 * jcamins too. 13:22 * nengard agrees with oleonard 13:22 nengard waiting for the doc office to open so i can schedule the surgery 13:22 jcamins oleonard: don't use the patch I sent you. I was just sending that so you'd have an idea of what it looked like, in case I didn't have a finished patch. 13:22 * oleonard thinks nengard deserves a break she can't seem to get 13:22 nengard just got told i need to have my gall bladder taken out this week!!!! no fatty foods :( 13:22 nengard no fudge for nicole this holiday :( 13:22 * magnuse offers kf a bribe of marzipan for doing the norwegian translations 13:21 kf fudge! 13:21 kf yay 13:21 oleonard Okay. I hope I'll have time today to take a first look 13:21 jcamins Yep. 13:21 * jcamins tempts kf with fudge. 13:21 magnuse oleonard: same thing, i think... ;-) (picture viewer?) 13:21 kf *sigh* 13:20 kf noone wants to bribe me 13:20 oleonard Are you bribing me for the same thing magnuse or something else? :) 13:18 * magnuse joins jcamins in tempting oleonard, and adds some marzipan to the bribes ;-) 13:17 kf hi nengard :) 13:16 magnuse kia ora nengard 13:16 nengard hello all 13:15 oleonard :) 13:15 * jcamins tempts oleonard with fudge. 13:15 magnuse hiya oleonard 13:15 magnuse comes in handy every now and then... ;-) 13:14 oleonard Hi #koha 13:14 jcamins I should probably set one of those up. 13:14 jcamins magnuse: thanks. 13:12 magnuse some day i will reset the database every day too... 13:11 magnuse jcamins: for future reference, i have an installation running master here: head.bibkat.no:8080 login: demo/demo. it's updated automatically every day 13:10 kf marcelr++ 13:07 kf :) 13:06 jcamins It's a good idea. :) 13:05 jcamins I just couldn't quite identify what was different about the page. 13:05 jcamins That makes sense. 13:04 kf giving it a bit more room 13:04 kf no I think itw as intention 13:04 jcamins So there's no bug. 13:04 kf no worries :) 13:04 jcamins Thanks. 13:04 jcamins That's it. 13:04 jcamins Oooh. 13:04 kf is it because the navigation is below the table now? 13:04 jcamins This is why I wanted to know if you had an install of Master. 13:03 kf ok 13:03 jcamins I don't know! 13:03 kf I need a little bit more informaton :) 13:03 kf looks wrong like? 13:03 jcamins The edit items screen looks wrong, but I can't decide if I'm imagining it or not. 13:02 kf what's the question? 13:02 kf hm not right now 13:01 jcamins kf: do you have an install of Master? 13:01 kf vfernandes: it will work out :) 12:58 vfernandes thanks jcamins and kf... i was a little worried because the first Koha that i've configured it onl had one library 12:57 jcamins You bet. :) 12:56 vfernandes so it's possible to check out books from other libraries :D 12:55 vfernandes hummm ok 12:47 kf and you are not away.. 12:47 kf what jcamins_away said :) 12:47 kf vfernandes: this will be the home library for the user 12:47 jcamins_away vfernandes: it doesn't matter which library they're associated with. 12:45 vfernandes but when you create a patron you need to associate a library 12:43 jcamins_away vfernandes: yes, you just use multiple branches. 12:39 vfernandes it's possible to do this in Koha? 12:39 vfernandes i need to have 6 libraries on the instance... and the users are the same for each library and can borrow items on each library 12:38 vfernandes today i'm starting configuring a Koha for another client.... but i have a doubt... 12:37 vfernandes hi Koha people 12:02 mbalmer actually quite usable 12:01 mbalmer let's see how it looks on the ipad 12:00 kf but it's a start 12:00 mbalmer but, hmm, actually a nice idea... 12:00 kf oooh 12:00 mbalmer only the IRC channel ;) 12:00 kf quite cool 11:59 kf mbalmer: koha on an ipad? 11:35 mbalmer koha now on my ipad as well 11:35 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6374] Use "size" as names/hash keys leads to an unexpected results when using Template::Toolkit (name of a virtual method there) <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6374> 11:07 kf zipporah: http://manual.koha-community.org/3.6/en/patroninformation.html 11:03 kf administration > authorized values 10:58 zipporah kf: Where do I look up that MAN_INV type? 10:56 zipporah kf: Yes I would like to upgrade but I fear losing the Data. I have ready more about upgrading but it sounds somehow completed as it requires a lot of online processes and one needs have a very good communication lines and some good understanding of Linux commands. The one I did was using Koha Live CD , if there is a way of using an upgrade of Koha Live CD 10:54 kf zipporah: it's really not that hard to set up, you need values for a type call MAN_INV 10:50 kf because 3.2 is quite old now already, current stable version is 3.6.1 10:50 kf and you should consider updateing 10:50 wahanui documentation is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/ 10:49 kf documentation? 10:49 kf check out the documentation 10:49 kf zipporah: sorry, no 10:46 zipporah kf: It is 3.2 , I am quite a newbie to Koha especially on this Authorized value aspect. Can you you email me how to do all these fee types with an authorized value so that I can print it off and follow properly. My email is chisangaz@gmail.com ; I will very much appreciate. 10:40 kf but you can create your own fee types with an authorized value called MAN_INV 10:39 kf I am not sure that#s in 3.2 10:39 kf you could have one and create fees with those types in that accound 10:39 zipporah kf: Thanks, So I need to create a patron for each type of transaction. Say one for Photocopying, one for Sundry Temporary reading, etc? 10:34 kf not sure about patron cards and that version 10:33 kf if you want to track the money 10:33 kf you could create a patron for that purpuse 10:30 zipporah Also in your own experiences, what is the best way of charging non-patrons eg. for photocopying, reading books without checking out?. The point here is that they are not registered as Patrons hence they cannot be looked up in the Search for Circulation. 10:26 zipporah Can someone out there help me on how to create and print Patron Cards in Koha 3.02 . In Tools there are only things like managing only. 10:01 mbalmer (switching offices) 10:01 mbalmer see you on the other side... 09:52 sophie_m Guten Morgen kf :-) 09:52 kf hi sophie_m :) 09:40 magnuse is that fair, is all i ask ;-) 09:40 magnuse hehe 09:40 kf yes, those who can read have a clear advantage 09:40 magnuse yup 09:39 magnuse OPACPrivacy - ___ patrons to choose their own privacy settings for their reading history. This requires opacreadinghistory and AnonymousPatron 09:39 kf you also need opacreadinghistory 09:39 kf oh 09:39 kf out of ideas then :( 09:39 kf that wasn't the problem 09:39 kf hm no 09:36 magnuse ah 09:35 kf I forgot the anonymous patron 09:35 kf oh 09:35 magnuse isn't there a syspref? 09:35 kf what do i need to do to make the opacprivacy page show up? 09:35 kf hm 09:14 kf yeah it is :) 09:12 mbalmer ok, SWB-BW found my book. amazing how much data can be associated with a simple book on GUI programming ;) 09:11 magnuse doh! 09:11 kf yes, I think they have more but they are not free/public 09:09 magnuse it's listed, but with [none] for record syntaxes 09:09 kf I think they have one but it's not public 09:05 magnuse but not for the German National Library - weird 09:05 mbalmer so let's see if SWB-BW is any good ;) 09:05 magnuse yup, for most of the entries in IRSpy there is a field called "Record syntaxes" 09:04 mbalmer ah, the syntaxes are listed. 09:04 mbalmer how do I find out if they do? 09:03 kf those who speak usmarc should work 09:02 mbalmer now that I have thos z39.50 targets, how can I find out if they "speak" a MARC dialect? German National Library seems to support only SUTRS 08:59 magnuse ah 08:59 kf magnuse: it's not that we have not thought about it 08:58 magnuse kf: maybe you could/should consider hosting a german demo installation? :-) 08:57 mbalmer I am trying to populate my demo library ;) tnx for the links! 08:57 kf germany even 08:56 kf or at the page magnus gave you - search for country = german 08:56 magnuse http://irspy.indexdata.com/find.html?cql.anywhere=&dc.title=&zeerex.country=Germany&net.protocol=z39.50&net.host=&net.port=&net.path=&zeerex.reliabilityAtLeast=&zeerex.libType=&dc.description=&dc.creator=&_sort=&_search=Search&_count=10&_skip=0 08:56 mbalmer kf, ok. 08:56 magnuse http://irspy.indexdata.com/ 08:56 kf look where I work 08:55 kf hm yes 08:55 rangi Koha will work with any Z39.50 08:55 mbalmer can anyone hint me at a z39.50 server that has german title (deutsch nationalbibliothek) and that works with Koha? 08:51 AmitG heya hdl 08:46 kf hi francharb 08:44 francharb hi magnuse 08:44 magnuse bonjour francharb 08:26 magnuse yeah, better to code with your eyes closed 08:26 kf did you look at Search.pm? 08:26 mbalmer I was looking at some of the code, now my eyes are bleeding ;) 08:24 paul_p :D 08:24 rangi :) 08:24 magnuse this just in from twitter: "Trolls are huge, smelly, man eating beasts who can smell human blood miles away. And that is why Norway has got free healthcare" 08:24 magnuse almost xmas ;-) 08:24 kf yay :) 08:24 magnuse yay! 08:24 kf it's monday and #koha is being silly 08:24 magnuse well, yeah i knew there was something wrong with what i said earlier... 08:24 kf lol 08:23 rangi the trolls might get it 08:23 paul_p magnuse, set the worm free ? in december and in Norway ? You like frozen worm, really ? :D :D 08:22 * magnuse has done quite a lot of fly fishing, but never ever used live bait 08:22 magnuse yeah... 08:21 kf magnuse: make sure the birds don't get it 08:21 magnuse rangi: goody! 08:21 magnuse nah, i'll set it free and let it roam through the woods again 08:21 rangi recovering well 08:21 magnuse rangi: how's the kid? 08:21 kf mbalmer: he will probably go fishing with it 08:21 magnuse ata marie rangi 08:20 kf evening rangi 08:20 rangi evening 08:20 magnuse ooh, thanks! 08:20 * mbalmer hands the worm to magnuse ... 08:19 magnuse mbalmer: the early bird gets the worm (not sure why you'd want it, though ;-) 08:19 kf god morgen magnuse :) 08:19 mbalmer good morning. way tooo early... 08:19 AmitG heya kf, magnus_afk 08:19 magnus_afk kia ora kf mbalmer gaetan_B paul_p & #koha 08:18 kf good morning again #koha 08:18 kf back :) 08:13 gaetan_B hello 08:08 paul_p hello wahanui & al ;-) 08:05 wahanui hello, julian_m 08:05 julian_m hi 07:57 reiveune hello 07:50 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7338] link to serial detail wrong <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7338> 07:45 AmitG heya indradg 07:30 cait bonjour alex_a 07:28 alex_a morning #koha 06:53 huginn` magnus_afk: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -1.0�C (7:20 AM CET on December 12, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: -7.0�C. Windchill: -8.0�C. Pressure: 29.44 in 997 hPa (Steady). 06:53 magnus_afk @wunder boo 06:21 AmitG heya Robin 05:46 eythian heh 05:46 * cait is not awake yet 05:46 cait right 05:46 cait oh 05:46 eythian you mean late? 05:46 cait it' searly for you 05:46 wahanui que tal, eythian 05:46 eythian hi there 05:46 cait hey eythian 05:46 eythian hmm, not bad. 05:46 huginn` eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 17.0�C (6:00 PM NZDT on December 12, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). 05:46 eythian @wunder wellington, nz 05:43 cait ooh 05:42 bag matter 05:42 bag I'm freezing no moatter 05:42 cait not even that is cold :) 05:41 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 2.5�C (6:34 AM CET on December 12, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Windchill: 2.0�C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011.1 hPa (Steady). 05:41 cait @wunder konstanz 05:41 cait that's not cold 05:40 bag cold here 05:40 huginn` bag: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 7.6�C (9:37 PM PST on December 11, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 97%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Windchill: 8.0�C. Pressure: 29.82 in 1009.7 hPa (Rising). 05:40 bag @wunder 93109 05:31 druthb oh, back above freezing. Was about 10 below last week. 05:30 huginn` druthb: The current temperature in Dunham Park, Sioux Falls, South Dakota is 1.3�C (11:28 PM CST on December 11, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: 1.0�C. Windchill: 1.0�C. Pressure: 30.03 in 1016.8 hPa (Falling). 05:30 druthb @wunder 57103 #my official address 05:30 cait go to sleep :) 05:30 druthb brr 05:30 cait hm, could be worse 05:30 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 2.6�C (6:24 AM CET on December 12, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Windchill: 3.0�C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011.1 hPa (Steady). 05:30 cait @wunder Konstanz 05:30 * druthb makes evil eyeballs at BobB. 05:29 huginn` druthb: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 19.0�C (4:00 PM EST on December 12, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 15.0�C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Steady). 05:29 druthb @wunder Sydney, New South Wales 05:29 huginn` druthb: The current temperature in APRSWXNET Denison/Sherman TX US, Pottsboro, Texas is 6.7�C (11:03 PM CST on December 11, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: -3.0�C. Windchill: 7.0�C. Pressure: 30.23 in 1023.6 hPa. 05:29 druthb @wunder 75076 05:11 cait hi AmitG 05:11 AmitG heya cait 05:11 cait hi druthb :) 05:11 druthb hi, cait. :) 05:10 cait hi #koha 04:57 druthb Hi, Bob and Amit. :) 04:52 AmitG heya druthb 04:49 BobB hi Ruth 04:49 BobB hi AmitG 04:47 druthb o/ 04:45 AmitG heya BobB 04:41 BobB Yes indeed, all well. 04:40 kmkale yes BobB how about you & Irma? 04:39 BobB Is all good with you? 04:39 BobB :) 04:38 kmkale Namaste BobB :) 04:38 BobB hi kmkale 04:38 kmkale Namaskaar #koha 03:31 bag hello AmitG 03:31 AmitG :D 03:31 AmitG good morning koha:D 03:31 AmitG heya bag :D 01:23 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 1633] Add ability to take book cover images from local img db <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1633> 01:00 Cul Hello Koha