Time  Nick           Message
22:31 small          ...
22:23 small          That can help me with the email thing
22:23 small          Anybody here?
22:14 small          :D
22:14 small          :d
22:14 small          Just thought i would let people know that i sucsessfully installed koha 3.06.00.000
22:03 small          nevermind, i found it
22:00 small          lol
22:00 wahanui        small: wish i knew
22:00 small          wahanui: You are here, right?
22:00 small          wahauni: You are here, right?
22:00 small          but is anyone smart home?
22:00 small          we all know, wahauni is home
21:59 small          Anybody home?
21:58 small          there ^^
21:58 small          where is the old koha-intall-log file located?
21:58 small          where is the old koha-intall-lof file located?
21:58 small          where is the old koha-sintall-lof file located?
21:57 small          i got a question
21:07 test           :'(
21:06 test           I have a hard time believing that
21:06 test           really ? no-one is here
21:05 test           k then
21:04 wahanui        ...but test is <action> does a testing dance...
21:04 test           wahanui: I am Happy
21:04 test           what? lol
21:04 wahanui        ...but test is <action> does a testing dance...
21:04 test           wahanui: I am sad
21:03 test           whanui:  I am sad
21:03 test           Argggggvgv
21:03 test           :|
21:01 test           :\
21:01 test           :/
21:00 test           I'll take that as a no
20:59 test           anybody here other then wahanui the computer
20:58 wahanui        test: i'm not following you...
20:58 test           wahanui: lol
20:57 wahanui        OK, test.
20:57 test           wahanui:That is good
20:57 wahanui        mas o menos
20:57 test           wahanui: how are you?
20:56 wahanui        test: huh?
20:56 test           wahanui:
20:56 test           :(
20:55 test           ...
20:52 test           anyone else here?
20:50 test           I found it, but how do I install it?
20:49 test           ok, thanks
20:49 * rangi        has to get back to work now, but look in the pool directory
20:49 rangi          sudo apt-get install libtemplate-perl
20:48 test           I also need something called Template
20:48 test           ok, I am at the debian.koha-com... URL and what directory do I get it from?
20:47 rangi          or from http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/libgravatar-url-perl
20:46 test           ok
20:46 rangi          you can get 1.03 from debian.koha-community.org
20:44 test           it says I need version 1.03, that was version 1.02 :(
20:44 test           ok, there is a prob. with that download
20:43 test           what?
20:43 rangi          10.10 is maverick eh?
20:43 test           ok
20:42 rangi          sudo apt-get install libgravatar-url-perl
20:42 rangi          try
20:42 test           I have ubuntu 10.10 server
20:42 rangi          no, what distribution of linux are you installing on
20:42 test           umm, I don't know, koha just said that I needed it
20:41 rangi          what distribution do you use?
20:41 test           anyone know how?
20:41 test           trying to install, gravatar::URL
19:40 huginn         rangi: The operation succeeded.
19:40 rangi          @later tell chris_n when you get a second, can you test pushing to the 3.6.x branch for me please?
19:30 chrisdothall   but it very much depends on what group you get, they try to judge it individually, but they can only do so much.
19:30 cait           cool :)
19:29 chrisdothall   definitely, I have a group of friends doing the same paper, and we were in a group for a large-ish project this year and it worked well.
19:26 cait           group projects can be fun, but you need the right group for it I htink
19:25 chrisdothall   next year one paper I am doing is assessed internally based on a large group project :)
19:24 chrisdothall   neither :(
19:24 cait           I don't like those
19:22 chrisdothall   sadly this year most of my exams have been on theory rather than writing code
19:21 chrisdothall   hahaha I have a bad habit or writing a lot of my code out on paper when im normally programming, one of the few advantages is that it helps when exams come :)
19:20 cait           wonder how they are figuring it out in the end, but seemed ot have worked so far
19:20 cait           but programming on paper is hard enough, I always end up with lots of little stars pointing to footnotes and arrows and things
19:20 cait           no,normally not
19:20 cait           ah
19:20 chrisdothall   things that revole around facts you 'just have to learn'
19:19 chrisdothall   cait: rote learning, memorisation by repitition
19:19 cait           rote type questions?
19:19 chrisdothall   I think it would better reflect your skill
19:19 rangi          more like the real world
19:19 chrisdothall   yeah, and I presume they would structure it in such a way that it doesnt feature too much rote type questions, etc.
19:18 cait           I think it's good
19:18 cait           but if you do... you can look up things
19:18 cait           if you don't understand it the book will not help much
19:18 cait           and some other things, most exams allow to bring everything, a few exceptions
19:18 chrisdothall   and they are all open book :o
19:18 cait           but also some business courses (eew) and maths
19:17 cait           it's computer science, so programming mostly
19:17 chrisdothall   cait: what subject are your exams on?
19:17 chrisdothall   it was phrased poorly >.>
19:16 cait           some people bring a lot of folders, I normally bring thebook and some summaries
19:16 wahanui        anything is possible with enough development work :)
19:16 cait           anything
19:16 chrisdothall   cait: is there a limit on the number of pages you can take in or anything?
19:16 cait           into the distance study exams, but only paper, no internet
19:15 cait           I get to take my reference material with me
19:15 cait           hehe
19:15 rangi          heh
19:15 chrisdothall   living the dream.
19:13 rangi          yeah, i havent done a 'lock you in a room with no reference material to solve a problem' type exam in years, cant say i miss them
19:13 chrisdothall   hahaha I think I wouldnt mind that as much ;p
19:12 ibeardslee     even if it is an eye exam as you get older ;)
19:12 chrisdothall   :o
19:12 ibeardslee     there will always be another to do
19:11 chrisdothall   I look forward to the day I never have to sit another exam
19:11 cait           :)
19:11 chrisdothall   thanks cait
19:11 rangi          awesome
19:11 cait           good luck :)
19:11 chrisdothall   cheers, then I have a week to revise perl and then im all yours :)
19:10 rangi          excellent, good luck :)
19:10 chrisdothall   last one is today *phew*
19:10 rangi          still doing exams ?
19:09 rangi          :)
19:09 rangi          ah dang it
19:09 chrisdothall   rangi: next monday sorry :)
18:50 rangi          heh
18:50 cait           bad script - no cookies for you!
18:50 rangi          I still like my bad script patch :)
18:49 jenkins_koha   * Chris Cormack: Bug 6679: Fixing admin/aqplain :encoding(UTF-8) gives strict validation
18:49 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6679 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , Fixing code so it passes basic Perl::Critic tests
18:49 jenkins_koha   * Chris Cormack: Bug 6679 : Tidying changed parts of file
18:49 jenkins_koha   * Chris Cormack: Bug 6679 : Don't declare variables in conditionals
18:49 jenkins_koha   * Chris Cormack: Bug 6679 : Not using strict .. bad script, no cookie for you!
18:49 jenkins_koha   * Chris Cormack: Bug 6679 : Don't declare variables in conditionals Don't change $_ in a list context http://search.cpan.org/~elliotjs/Perl-Critic-1.116/lib/Perl/Critic/Policy/ControlStructures/ProhibitMutatingListFunctions.pm
18:49 jenkins_koha   * Chris Cormack: Bug 6679 : Declare variables outside of conditionals
18:49 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_master build #519: STILL UNSTABLE in 48 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/519/
18:47 rangi          ahh
18:47 ibeardslee     yeah and now I'm looking for the 64 bit drivers
18:47 rangi          chrisdothall: you start today eh?
18:46 rangi          hmm
18:45 rangi          work stuff im guessing not by choice
18:45 rangi          :)
18:45 rangi          oh yeah id leap at that too
18:44 ibeardslee     would have been good to get there, but not going meant I had the chance to install Windows :(
18:39 wahanui        small: excuse me?
18:39 small          wahanui: Goodbye
18:39 wahanui        small: what?
18:39 small          wahanui: bye
18:39 small          bye everybody
18:39 small          that was fun
18:39 small          haha
18:39 wahanui        small: excuse me?
18:39 small          wahanui: lol
18:39 wahanui        small: huh?
18:39 small          wahanui: i dont know
18:39 wahanui        small: i don't know
18:39 small          wahanui: what what what
18:39 wahanui        bugger all, i dunno, small
18:39 small          wahanui: what what
18:39 wahanui        small: what?
18:39 small          wahanui: lol
18:38 wahanui        bugger all, i dunno, small
18:38 small          wahanui: What
18:38 wahanui        wish i knew, small
18:38 small          wahanui: Are you there?
18:38 wahanui        small: i'm not following you...
18:38 small          wahanui:
18:38 small          i wonder if i can talk to wahanui
18:38 small          :O
18:38 small          Noone is here!
18:36 small          I dont
18:36 wahanui        i think Anybody is here
18:36 small          Anybody?
18:34 small          it is version 3.02
18:34 small          if i have a virtual cd, that i made with everything setup up untill the web installer. Can i upgrade that to 3.06 before running the installer ?\
18:33 small          I got a question
18:33 rangi          ill pester anitsirk for a report
18:32 rangi          I got a full saturday
18:32 rangi          ahh bummer
18:32 ibeardslee     rangi: I didn't get to go at all.
18:16 ferks          sorry for bothering guys, just looking ut some help
18:16 ferks          through my localip it simpley doesnt works
18:15 ferks          i just wanna know if its possible make this.....use for example  mycatalogDOTcom for acces my lubrary instead of mi ip
18:14 ferks          i got everything configured on the VM running koha its pretty funtional
18:13 ferks          i try to access with my localip to my opac but it doesnt works
18:13 ferks          ok
18:12 small          yeah, i dont think you can do it
18:12 ferks          so
18:12 ferks          well
18:12 small          ok
18:12 small          haha
18:12 ferks          yeah thats the point, im a noob im just experimenting
18:12 small          But that is what i think, you could comeback on the weekdays and ask then
18:12 small          to run the koha, and setup dns to your domain
18:11 small          i think you need a computer "server"
18:11 small          i think you need a computer "server
18:11 small          oh
18:11 ferks          so i just want to know how can i set my library catalog to be accesed over the internet
18:11 small          then it will probably not work
18:11 ferks          i got a paid account HOSTING+domain
18:10 small          If you are using "free hosting" or hosting from a company, i do not belive you can
18:10 ferks          haha
18:09 small          "smart" people are hear on the weekdays , that is what i hear anyway
18:09 small          But you could ask someone more "smart"
18:09 small          I dont think so
18:08 ferks          is it possible?
18:08 ferks          its all about installing koha throught ftp to my domain
18:08 ferks          hi, may i have some live help
18:07 wahanui        salut, ferks
18:07 ferks          que tal
18:07 wahanui        que tal, ferks
18:07 ferks          hi
18:05 small          should i run that?
18:05 small          the make file
18:05 small          ok then
18:04 wahanui        :)
18:04 cait           wahanui botsnack cookie
18:04 wahanui        OK, cait.
18:04 cait           wahanui: make is <reply>
18:04 wahanui        OK, cait.
18:04 cait           wahanui: web installer is <reply>
18:04 wahanui        cait: I forgot web installer
18:04 cait           forget web installer
18:04 wahanui        cait: I forgot make
18:04 cait           forget make
18:04 wahanui        make is running now
18:03 cait           or make?
18:03 wahanui        the web installer is installed by default
18:03 cait           the web installer?
18:03 small          I think it is
18:02 small          i have never ran the koha installer, is this bad?
18:01 jenkins_koha   Starting build 519 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #491 18 j ago)
18:01 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6390 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, ef, ASSIGNED , Basket only visible for librarian who created it
18:00 jenkins_koha   ian.walls: Bug 6390 Followup: Basket's authorisedby might not be a borrowernumber
18:00 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_master build #518: STILL UNSTABLE in 48 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/518/
18:00 small          and the command works now
18:00 small          i downloaded CPAN from ubuntu software center
17:59 small          It works now
17:59 small          ok
17:59 small          hmm
17:59 cait           perhaps try google for problems with this specific packages
17:59 cait           sorry, i am out of ideas for now
17:58 small          yes
17:58 cait           and sudo apt-get install koha-common worked?
17:58 small            10.10
17:57 cait           which version of ubuntu are you using?
17:57 cait           hm
17:57 small          yes
17:57 cait           and there are still packages missing?
17:57 small          many times
17:57 small          i have done that
17:57 cait           and stopping after apt-get install koha-common
17:57 cait           and follow that, using the stable version
17:57 cait           http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.4_on_Debian_Squeeze
17:57 small          there is no other errors that i can see
17:56 cait           is
17:56 cait           to deal with the dependencies
17:56 cait           what you can do
17:56 cait           hm
17:56 small          That is the error
17:56 small          Warning: no success downloading '/home/koha/.cpan/sources/authors/id/T/TI/TIMBRODY/HTTP-OAI-3.27.tar.gz.tmp22470'. Giving up on it. at /usr/share/perl/5.10/CPAN/Distribution.pm line 379
17:56 wahanui        is there anything it cant do
17:56 small          the CPAN ?
17:55 small          what one to i download?
17:55 cait           or apt-get install
17:55 cait           yep
17:55 small          That is the ubuntu software manager?
17:55 small          ok
17:55 cait           because it will make updating easier
17:55 cait           I would use the ubuntu packages
17:55 small          ok
17:54 cait           yes
17:54 cait           hm
17:54 small          It says commad not found
17:54 small          And when tryin gto start via. /etc/perl/CPAN/Config.pm initialized
17:54 small          PDF::API2::Simple Storable Text::CSV::Encoded
17:54 small          sudo cpan HTTP::OAI Locale::Currency::Format Memoize::Memcached \
17:54 small          it errors when doing this
17:54 cait           I think you don't need cpan really - it should all be available with ubuntu packages
17:53 cait           what is your problem?
17:53 cait           I can try, but not sure
17:53 cait           and some of the usual suspects are i india :)
17:53 small          Can you help?
17:53 small          ok
17:53 cait           weekends are a bit silent
17:53 small          Guess not
17:51 small          Anyone home?
17:50 small          With CPAN
17:50 small          i got a problem
17:50 small          Hello?
17:31 huginn         New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6679: Fixing admin/aqplain :encoding(UTF-8) gives strict validation <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ee0627f20bee5df234ab284d1fdacebb857de57f> / Bug 6679 : Tidying changed parts of file <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3b0474950c791bbf0367f6c819203180205f7aa8> / Bug 6679 : Don't declare variables in conditionals <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha
17:19 small          i can see :P
17:19 small          yes
17:19 cait           but people change with timezones :)
17:19 cait           and if not, ocme back at another time of day - normally someone here can help
17:19 small          ok
17:19 cait           perhaps you will find what's going wrong
17:19 small          ok
17:19 cait           and look through that
17:19 cait           I would recommend checking the install file that comes with koha
17:19 small          oh
17:18 cait           for example you don't need to add the indexdata repo any longer
17:18 small          oh
17:18 small          yes
17:18 cait           I think the wiki page is really not up to date
17:18 cait           did you use koha-common?
17:18 cait           you used the debian packages?
17:18 cait           hm
17:17 small          :80 takes me to opac
17:17 small          ok, i used a package if that helps?
17:17 cait           they are usually a bit more up to date than the wiki manuals
17:17 cait           perhaps you missed a step somewhere
17:17 cait           you can also check the INSTALL files that are in your koha folders
17:16 cait           perhaps someone else has an idea
17:16 cait           apache and me are not really friends
17:16 cait           so we didn't amke it worse :)
17:16 cait           ok
17:16 small          that takes me to opac maintenance
17:16 small          nope
17:15 cait           localhost broken too?
17:15 small          Now what?
17:14 small          :(
17:14 small          Apache/2.2.14 (Ubuntu) Server at localhost Port 8080
17:14 small          The requested URL / was not found on this server.
17:14 small          Not Found
17:14 small          ok
17:14 cait           perhaps better
17:14 cait           hm
17:13 small          should i del that line in httpd.conf first?
17:13 cait           *crossing fingers*
17:13 cait           now restart
17:13 cait           good :)
17:13 small          OK
17:13 small          so i added it
17:13 small          si i added it
17:13 Oak            ignore. listen to cait small. one person guiding is better.
17:13 small          ports.conf has that, exept listen 8080
17:13 small          ok
17:13 cait           I would sugged, unto the change to the other file and check the ports.conf
17:12 small          ok
17:12 Oak            on Slackware, i added that line in httpd.conf
17:12 small          before firefox would say problem ... now it says file not found on this server
17:12 cait           Listen 8080
17:12 cait           Listen 80
17:12 cait           NameVirtualHost *:80
17:12 cait           should look like this
17:12 small          file not found on the server
17:12 cait           it's ports.conf
17:12 jenkins_koha   Starting build 518 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #491 18 j ago)
17:12 cait           yep
17:12 Oak            uh oh
17:11 cait           I think we have the wrong file
17:11 cait           oh
17:11 small          oh yeah, oops :D
17:11 Oak            restarted apache?
17:11 cait           hmm
17:11 small          and it still errors 404 on :8080
17:10 small          well, i added Listen 127.0.0.1:8080 to that file
17:10 small          haha
17:10 cait           I was missing one word :)
17:10 wahanui        cait: I forgot nevermind that
17:10 cait           wahanui: forget nevermind that
17:10 small          it doesnt want to, lol
17:10 cait           forget nevermind
17:10 wahanui        i heard nevermind that was a dumb question
17:10 small          nevermind that
17:09 small          oops
17:09 small          oh
17:09 small          it shows lines on the icon, but in gedit there is nothing
17:08 cait           hm that is a bit weird
17:08 small          or, i cant see anything in gedit
17:08 small          it is blank
17:08 small          i did it right
17:08 small          oh, nevermind
17:08 small          but that is blank 2
17:08 small          /etc/apache2/
17:07 small          oh, its apache2
17:07 small          i'll check
17:07 small          i think
17:07 cait           not created a new?
17:07 cait           are you sure you have opened the right file?
17:07 small          if that file is blank, is it bad?
17:06 Oak            :)
17:06 cait           etc/apache2 I think
17:06 small          where is httpd.conf located?
17:06 * cait         gives Oak cookies
17:06 cait           you often help :)
17:06 Oak            :) see, i help sometimes :)
17:06 small          ok
17:05 cait           was going to look that up :)
17:05 cait           ah thx Oak :)
17:05 Oak            restart apache
17:05 cait           you have to edit lines in your apache configuration
17:05 Oak            add Listen 127.0.0.1:8080 in httpd.conf
17:04 small          so how do i make the apache listhen on port 8080?
17:03 small          im back
17:03 Oak            oh don't worry about my comments. most of them are random.
17:02 cait           hehe, no I only wondered about your comment :)
17:02 Oak            <cait> just came back from a long walk, should go and do sometihng about dinner
17:01 wahanui        it has been said that Oak is Arslan. I am a student doing masters in Library Science (2nd semester). I am a web developer and work in Joomla.
17:01 cait           Oak?
17:01 Oak            nice
17:01 Oak            so cait, you like long walks, hm
17:01 cait           wante to say: and restart apache after that :)
17:01 huginn         New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_6390' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bfc3ea8cc4f0746d4d5658d7c2e2353855bd2b29> / Bug 6390 Followup: Basket's authorisedby might not be a borrowernumber <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=58bdfdb08883eb52777321f883491eaff1493857>
17:01 cait           ok
17:01 small          just a sec
17:01 small          brb
17:01 small          restarted
17:01 small          probably not
17:01 cait           restarted apache?
17:00 cait           have you added listen 8080 to your apache conf?
17:00 small          yes
17:00 small          i know, but how?
17:00 cait           the 404 is the problem
17:00 cait           what you have to get working is the staff interface
17:00 small          yes, but how do i get to the installer>
17:00 cait           the system maintenance will stay until the database was created with the web installer
17:00 small          because i havnt ran the installer
17:00 cait           the opac is correct
17:00 small          What do i do?
16:59 small          :8080 has 404
16:59 small          i just goto localhost and it brings me to the opac, then says "System Maintance"
16:59 cait           it should start the web installer
16:59 cait           and the fist time you get there
16:59 small          well
16:59 cait           if you have not changed something
16:59 cait           normally with localhost:8080
16:59 small          .00.000
16:59 small             3.06
16:59 small          how do i get to the admin
16:58 small          and it brings me to opac
16:58 small          i goto localhost
16:58 cait           which version of koha did you install?
16:58 cait           did you run the web installer?
16:58 small          sort of
16:58 cait           ah ok
16:58 cait           small: now it works?
16:58 small          But i got a problem
16:58 cait           ah :)
16:58 wahanui        hmmm... small is stuck on the install part
16:58 cait           small?
16:58 small          Now it works
16:58 small          Ok
16:57 small          :(
16:56 small          Please?
16:55 small          Can anyone help?
16:54 small          no errors
16:54 small          I ran through all of the steps at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_Lucid_using_Koha_packages, and it doesn't work
16:54 small_away     :(
16:53 cait           hm no not easy, but there is a push comment from chris
16:52 paul_p         I think the follow-up should have been in a different bug, that would have been more clear (for instance, no way to see easily that 2 patches have been applied and one hasn't)
16:52 cait           just came back from a long walk, should go and do sometihng about dinner
16:52 cait           thx
16:52 cait           yay :)
16:52 paul_p         OK, gotcha !!!
16:51 cait           because the feature is already in, but causing a problem, that patch will fix it
16:51 cait           paul_p: right that one :)
16:50 paul_p         cait, you mean http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=5966 ?
16:50 * druthb1      is in a mood to smack someone right now.
16:50 druthb1        darn.
16:50 cait           paul_p: wise decision
16:50 cait           lol
16:50 * paul_p       turns the key of the door to lock it...
16:50 cait           the newest from ian is the only patch not pushed into master yet
16:49 * druthb1      could run down the hall in her pajamas, up a flight of stairs, and smack him, and run back, and no one the wiser...
16:49 cait           which I have only see now
16:49 cait           i think it was perhaps confusing because there are 2 follow ups to this
16:49 druthb1        rats.
16:49 cait           don't smack him, we still need him :)
16:49 cait           nah
16:48 druthb1        cait, do you need me to go smack the release manager?  I'll be happy to, if he's earned it...and it's a golden opportunity...  ;-)
16:48 * paul_p       was about to say I don't understand ...
16:48 cait           :(
16:48 cait           sorry if my first comment was not clear
16:47 cait           hm the second follow up, the last patch on the bug
16:47 cait           it's only the followup - no database update for this
16:47 cait           the updatedatabas is already in
16:46 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6390 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, ef, ASSIGNED , Basket only visible for librarian who created it
16:46 cait           commented on bug 6390
16:46 paul_p         cait, yep
16:45 cait           paul_p: still around?
16:38 cait           back
16:12 small          hmm
16:12 small          ok
16:11 Oak            plus, i actually don't know enough to help you.
16:11 jcamins_away   small: also, as Oak says, checking back during the week might be a good way to get more help.
16:10 jcamins_away   small: look on the wiki... I know there are pages about using the packages.
16:10 Oak            small, normally, on Sunday, not people are available. family, friends, holiday... you get the idea.
16:07 small          Is there somewhere else i can get help online?
16:05 jcamins_away   (that's financial books, not printed books, alas)
16:05 small          Is Oak still here?
16:05 small          hmm, ok
16:04 * jcamins_away needs to do his books, though, so he can't really help more.
16:04 small          should i delete both and start over?
16:04 jcamins_away   Probably.
16:04 jcamins_away   Uhhh...
16:04 small          is that bad?
16:04 small          both of them have nothing inside them
16:04 small          but,
16:03 jcamins_away   I can't tell you what your thought process was when you spelled mylibary like that.
16:03 small          both of them have nothing inside them
16:03 jcamins_away   small: you have to decide which you want to keep.
16:02 small          But wich one? does it matter?
16:01 Oak            just do it!
16:01 small          So how do i delete the one i dont need
16:01 small          umm, maybe :D
16:01 jcamins_away   Intentionally misspelled?
16:01 small          mylibary is the name i used
16:00 small          000-default  mylibary  mylibrary
16:00 jcamins_away   small: what's the result of `ls /etc/apache2/sites-enabled`
16:00 small          i think they made me do that 2 times last night
16:00 small          yes
15:59 jcamins_away   small: 2 files?
15:59 small          Ok
15:59 small          i have 2 files with the name of my instance
15:59 * Oak          is letting experts help you. oak knows not about much.
15:58 small          what do i do with it, will it tell me something?
15:58 small          ok
15:58 jcamins_away   What I'd do is take a look at the Apache config file in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/{whatever_you_called_your_instance}
15:58 small          I think oak was helping, is he just thinking of what to do now?
15:58 kmkale         Namaste #koha
15:57 jcamins_away   Yup.
15:56 small          but this is the last step, then it is web based (i think)
15:55 jcamins_away   Okay.
15:55 small          true, i know most, i would like to think
15:55 jcamins_away   small: yeah, but if you don't know the vocabulary, it might be hard to do. ;)
15:54 small          i dont learn by reading, i learn by doing
15:54 jcamins_away   small: you might want to read an introduction to Linux, if you're not sure what /etc/hosts is.
15:54 small          Ubuntu, so sortof
15:53 Oak            you are on Debian?
15:53 small          but im pretty sure i didn't set one up
15:53 small          someone told me what to do, so i really dont know what i actuly did
15:53 small          i duno
15:52 Oak            :) just kidding
15:52 Oak            memory loss?
15:52 small          can someone help me with this?
15:52 small          I dont think i set up any virtual hosts, and if i did, i dont remember
15:51 Oak            no problem
15:51 small          Thanks
15:51 small          Oops
15:51 small          Oh
15:50 Oak            in etc folder
15:50 Oak            small, hosts is a file name
15:49 small          I do not have a etc/hosts folder
15:48 small          Hello
15:45 sekjal         not important for BZ
15:45 sekjal         that was really only necessary for emails to the listserv, to help catch attention
15:44 sekjal         dpavlin:  it's okay to not have "signed off" in the commit line
15:44 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7188 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , case-insensitive grep of /mysql/ in C4::Context
15:44 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7185 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, henridamien, REOPENED , Update to 3.6 says "Koha release 3.4"
15:44 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7184 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , have mysql returning errors
15:44 jenkins_koha   * paul.poulain: Bug 7188: C4::Context::db_scheme2dbi does case-insensitive grep
15:44 jenkins_koha   * julian.maurice: Bug 7185: Fix updatedatabase message for 3.6.0 release
15:44 jenkins_koha   * paul.poulain: Bug 7184 raise mySQL error if debug is set
15:44 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_master build #517: STILL UNSTABLE in 47 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/517/
15:39 * druthb1      waves to dpavlin
15:38 boot           arg
15:37 boot           just posting to see what user name I am, ignore me
15:36 dpavlin        patch status enough? (please say yes :-)
15:36 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7161 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, NEW , Open Library - Larger image, Read, borrow and checked-out status
15:36 dpavlin        Q: in bug 7161 I forgot to add [SIGNED-OFF] in first line. Should I re-upload attachment to fix it or is "signed off
15:32 boot           thanks, again :p
15:32 jcamins_away   Good luck.
15:32 boot           thanks
15:32 boot           I will do that in awhile, I'll post back later
15:31 boot           ok, I'll try that
15:31 jcamins_away   I just edit /etc/hosts to add the virtual hosts that I configured.
15:31 jcamins_away   Ah. Yeah, that's generally better.
15:30 boot           well, I created the koha instance, and someone last night said i need to set up the dns to connect to koha. they also said it's not on :8080 it is on a virtual thing
15:28 jcamins_away   boot: maybe. What is your question?
15:28 boot           know anything about settling up the dns stuff?
15:27 boot           ok
15:27 jcamins_away   boot: yeah.
15:26 boot           that's the bot, right?
15:25 wahanui        well, anybody is here
15:25 boot           anybody?
15:25 boot           anyone here
15:23 boot           I have a problem setting up my DNS stuff for my koha
15:21 boot           from last night
15:21 boot           I am small
15:21 wahanui        what's up, boot
15:21 boot           hello
14:57 huginn         New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7188: C4::Context::db_scheme2dbi does case-insensitive grep <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0f8db0c53866afaf5171869359c558d1e9f4325e>
14:56 jenkins_koha   Starting build 517 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #491 18 j ago)
14:51 cait           the stories being part of it :)
14:51 cait           but from what we got to see from far away - you had a lot fun too :)
14:51 cait           hehe
14:50 paul_p         ;-)
14:50 paul_p         but well, after 8 days in Mumbaï nothing can look strange ..
14:50 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1633 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, kmkale, NEW , Add ability to take book cover images from local img db
14:50 dpavlin        it's ok... internet is working :-) back to bug 1633 to see if I can reproduce magnuse findings...
14:50 paul_p         ... and it's sunday ...
14:50 paul_p         cait, just FYI : this afternoon, in the hackfest room, they's breaked ... the rest of the floor...when we left the room, on the right of the stairs, there was... the sun ! (where there was a room in the morning)
14:49 paul_p         :\
14:48 cait           :(
14:48 dpavlin        yap, no problem, other than jackhammers which are shaking our room. It seems that half of Thane decided to break down something (on sunday!)
14:47 huginn         New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7185: Fix updatedatabase message for 3.6.0 release <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e228f233e4638fdbeb77495fafb8453045d43302> / Bug 7184 raise mySQL error if debug is set <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=016e66c6f25fbe3b648bcb8dad8d59f80d11b992>
14:46 paul_p         seems you've arrived too
14:46 paul_p         (still 2 to go)
14:46 paul_p         and pushing the bugs on my pile ;-)
14:46 paul_p         dpavlin, yep
14:46 dpavlin        paul_p: arrived ok to hotel?
13:51 Oak            see ya magnuse
13:51 magnuse        see ya!
13:51 magnuse        oh well, time to take the dogs outside before it gets dark...
13:49 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1633 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, kmkale, NEW , Add ability to take book cover images from local img db
13:49 pastebot       "magnuse" at 84.202.196.154 pasted "initial notes from testing bug 1633" (27 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/107
13:43 magnuse        and not on the result list either
13:43 magnuse        on the record view
13:41 magnuse        the image displays nicely, but not resized
13:39 jcamins_away   Darn. :( I was hoping it'd work great.
13:38 magnuse        i'm having some trouble with it
13:38 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1633 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, kmkale, NEW , Add ability to take book cover images from local img db
13:38 jcamins_away   magnuse: does the patch for bug 1633 work?
13:23 jcamins_away   quickbooks--
13:09 magnuse        windows--
13:08 cait           windows--
13:07 Oak            windows--
13:06 jcamins_away   windows--
13:06 * jcamins_away grumbles about Windows.
13:01 magnuse        ah, removeing "Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"" from the patch by hand seems to solve that
12:51 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1633 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, kmkale, NEW , Add ability to take book cover images from local img db
12:51 magnuse        hm, when i try to apply the patch for bug 1633 (with git bz), i get "fatal: cannot convert from UTF-8utf-8 to UTF-8"
12:44 magnuse        yay
12:42 cait           bad wirless, no cookie for you!
12:42 * magnuse      got kicked off the wireless
12:31 Oak            :)
12:31 jcamins_away   Oak: :)
12:31 Oak            in blob format. see, i know something.
12:30 jcamins_away   Well, better than storing them in the file system, anyway.
12:30 jcamins_away   Yes.
12:30 magnuse        how about storing pictures in the db, is that considered a good idea?
12:29 magnuse        sounds like a good plan
12:27 jcamins_away   If it works, perhaps I'll submit a follow-up patch to make it do what I think it should.
12:24 jcamins_away   A primary key that doesn't refer to anything, so that one could conceivably have multiple cover images per biblio.
12:23 jcamins_away   magnuse: no, it replaces the value in imgfile if the biblionumber matches.
12:23 magnuse        ah, what would you prefer?
12:23 magnuse        jcamins_away: matching on $imgfile?
12:23 jcamins_away   I don't think I like biblionumber being the primary key.
12:21 magnuse        VALUES (?,?,?) ON DUPLICATE KEY UPDATE imagefile = ?
12:21 magnuse        ah, yes i missed the on eat the end here:
12:21 jcamins_away   Though I'm not sure how I feel about the query as such.
12:20 jcamins_away   No, that's right.
12:20 magnuse        looks like $biblionumber,$mimetype,$imgfile,$imgfile is one $imgfile too many?
12:20 magnuse        +    $sth->execute($biblionumber,$mimetype,$imgfile,$imgfile);
12:20 magnuse        +    my $sth = $dbh->prepare($query);
12:20 magnuse        +    my $query = "INSERT INTO bibliocoverimage (biblionumber, mimetype, imagefile) VALUES (?,?,?) ON DUPLICATE KEY UPDATE imagefile = ?;";
12:20 magnuse        i did wonder about this, though:
12:19 magnuse        i mean, i can test if it works, bout i couldn't say if the implementation is the best possible implementation...
12:19 magnuse        i thought i'd give the code a spin now, but i'm not the right person for evaluating the code as such...
12:16 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1633 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, kmkale, NEW , Add ability to take book cover images from local img db
12:16 jcamins_away   Has anyone looked at the code for bug 1633?
12:13 jcamins_away   :)
12:12 * magnuse      tries not to make a wise crack about debugging...
12:12 magnuse        nasssty bugses!
12:11 jcamins_away   Just "sealing cracks" and that sort of thing.
12:11 jcamins_away   He's not tearing out the kitchen, at least.
12:11 magnuse        ouch!
12:11 jcamins_away   Yep.
12:11 jcamins_away   [off] And by "fix" I mean "make much worse."
12:11 cait           while you are still there?
12:11 cait           ouch :(
12:11 jcamins_away   magnuse: alas, not yet. Just emptying the kitchen so that the landlord can "fix" the roach problem.
12:10 magnuse        jcamins_away: ouch? moving?
12:10 * jcamins_away weeps softly, and tries to psych himself up to finish emptying everything out of the kitchen. Again.
12:09 Oak            i like these quite little moments before the storm
12:08 Oak            whoa
12:08 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7128 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, wizzyrea, ASSIGNED , logged in and logged out states of opac-main.tt are hard to style
12:08 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6994 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED , 'No budget defined' showing up although budgets and funds are defined
12:08 jenkins_koha   * lrea: Bug 7128 - adding some ID's to make styling opac-main.tt a bit easier
12:08 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7117 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED , Small display problems when organising suggestion tabs by name
12:08 jenkins_koha   * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 6994: Wrong 'no budget defined' alert
12:08 jenkins_koha   * frederick.capovilla: Notify the user on his account page when his account is almost expired
12:08 jenkins_koha   * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7117: Bug 7117 - Small display problems when organising suggestion tabs by name
12:08 jenkins_koha   * m.de.rooy: 7146 (Update timestamps when deleting a biblio)
12:08 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_master build #516: STILL UNSTABLE in 47 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/516/
12:08 Oak            :-)
12:07 magnuse        ;-)
12:07 magnuse        ah, tell Oak: yes, i'm still using slicehost (but considering moving to linode)
12:06 Oak            tell me now
12:06 Oak            :)
12:06 Oak            i'm right here magnuse
12:06 huginn         magnuse: The operation succeeded.
12:06 magnuse        @later tell Oak: yes, i'm still using slicehost (but considering moving to linode)
12:06 huginn         magnuse: The operation succeeded.
12:06 magnuse        @later tell Brooke: fullstendig beskrivelse = complete description
12:05 huginn         Oak: The current temperature in Islamabad, Pakistan is 25.0�C (5:00 PM PKT on November 06, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 32%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Rising).
12:05 Oak            @wunder islamabad
12:05 huginn         magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo Vi, Norway is 8.0�C (1:00 PM CET on November 06, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Pressure: 30.05 in 1018 hPa (Rising).
12:05 magnuse        @wunder boo
11:38 Oak            cait++
11:38 wahanui        francharb falls asleep easily at sea.  Don't believe me?  Just ask Brooke.
11:38 cait           hm, francharb
11:38 Oak            congratulations !
11:38 cait           bye fredericd
11:37 francharb      bye all
11:36 cait           I finally reached the top
11:36 cait           not so much on the bug list
11:34 Oak            vewy vewy quiet
11:22 Oak            time for lunch :)
11:22 cait           hello Oak :)
11:22 Oak            hello druthb
11:22 Oak            hello cait
11:21 Oak            kia ora #koha
11:20 jenkins_koha   Starting build 516 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #491 18 j ago)
11:20 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6471 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED , column sorter on holds queue
11:20 jenkins_koha   ian.walls: Bug 6471: add tablesorter to Holds Queue
11:20 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_master build #515: STILL UNSTABLE in 48 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/515/
11:08 huginn         New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_7146' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1e5347fb34d6adf94ee7db0375145e28267f4bc9> / Bug 7128 - adding some ID's to make styling opac-main.tt a bit easier <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4ccb8649f88abaf9012f1bbec06fc840046cb7ff> / Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_7117' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb
10:56 huginn         New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6994: Wrong 'no budget defined' alert <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=488f4be86537211214ede7e0e703128c0cc4c92f>
10:56 huginn         druthb: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 33.0�C (3:40 PM IST on November 06, 2011). Conditions: Smoke. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 19.0�C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady).
10:56 druthb         @wunder mumbai
10:55 huginn         cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 12.2�C (11:50 AM CET on November 06, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009.0 hPa (Falling).
10:55 cait           @wunder Konstanz
10:46 huginn         New commit(s) kohagit: Notify the user on his account page when his account is almost expired <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e676e117fccfaa8208742c17a08cb92056286f95>
10:38 eythian        http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=FD3xe6Jt <-- Haters gunna make good points about MongoDB.
10:32 jenkins_koha   Starting build 515 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #491 18 j ago)
10:32 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7085 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Problems with searching for orders in acquisitions
10:32 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3958 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, Standardize vendor/supplier/bookseller terminology
10:31 jenkins_koha   * oleonard: Fix for Bug 7085 - Problems with searching for orders in acquisitions
10:31 jenkins_koha   * oleonard: Follow-up fix for Bug 3958, Standardize vendor/supplier/bookseller terminology
10:31 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_master build #514: STILL UNSTABLE in 50 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/514/
10:28 Oak            magnus_afk, you still use slicehost? http://lists.koha-community.org/pipermail/koha-devel/2009-November/033168.html
10:28 Oak            :)
10:28 Oak            i sure will. that's what they do.
10:25 cait           it will pop up sometime
10:25 cait           the bug is hiding
10:25 cait           ok, i give up
10:21 liw            "fullstending beskrivelse" is "complete description" (or "full description"), if my Swedish is to be trusted
10:18 Brooke         I translates what I'm tolds ta
10:18 Brooke         so uh
10:18 Brooke         I'm just sayin' it's naggin us
10:18 cait           so copy and ignore
10:18 cait           which nobody is likely to use
10:18 cait           it's only relevant for normarc
10:17 Brooke         looks like full description ala google
10:17 Oak            magnus went looking for breakfast
10:16 cait           I copy them over and ignore them
10:16 Brooke         tell us Magnus :P
10:16 Brooke         well fine
10:16 cait           that you should ask the norwegian guy
10:16 cait           ???
10:16 Brooke         hey cait what's a rough translation of fullstendig beskrivelse?
10:13 cait           this bug is hiding good
10:11 * druthb       watches cait wrangle
10:10 francharb      oki cait !
10:10 cait           that's what the bug wrangler is for :P
10:10 francharb      if there is another one, i didn't see it...
10:10 cait           I will mark it duplicate once I find it
10:10 cait           quite sure marcel had one too
10:10 francharb      cait, i tested julian_m patch
10:10 cait           ah, I am still catching up
10:09 francharb      this one?
10:09 huginn         04Bug 7185: trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, henridamien, NEW , Update to 3.6 say "Koha release 3.4"
10:09 francharb      http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7185
10:09 francharb      which patch are we talking about?
10:09 cait           francharb: do you have the number?
10:09 cait           oh yes he is
10:09 francharb      ;)
10:09 francharb      he is
10:09 Oak            francharb, you meant paul? he is tall.
10:09 francharb      ?
10:08 wahanui        francharb: that doesn't look right
10:08 francharb      and change the status
10:08 cait           julian_m: give me a sec - I know it's there
10:08 francharb      i just signed off this patch ;)
10:08 julian_m       cait, ok i've searched too and not find it :/
10:08 francharb      hi cait
10:08 francharb      hey all
10:08 cait           hi francharb
10:08 francharb      hey tall
10:08 cait           that watis for sign-off - was searching the bug number
10:08 cait           julian_m: I think marcel did one
10:08 wahanui        cait: I forgot cait,
10:08 cait           forget cait,
10:08 julian_m       yes there is a patch
10:07 wahanui        cait, is bywater a koha consulting group?
10:07 julian_m       cait, ?
10:07 cait           paul_p or anywhere near julian_m: there is a patch for 7185
10:06 cait           julian around?
10:05 Oak            then I told her I can just install Koha online on one of our servers, and she can access it from there. (I did not know I'll need dedicated hosting). When I talked to my boss, he said sure, go ahead, and after a week, our hosting company will kick us out because of hogging down their servers...So now I'm learning about this stuff... :)
10:05 * magnuse      wanders off to find breakfast
10:03 magnuse        hiya druthb
10:02 cait           Oak++
10:02 magnuse        yay! way to go Oak
10:02 druthb         Hi, Oak and magnuse and Brooke!
10:02 Oak            I'll do it. i'll come and configure Koha on their computer.
10:02 Brooke         howdy
10:02 Oak            she said she does not much about computers. i said
10:02 magnuse        ?
10:02 Oak            uh oh. no no magnuse.
10:01 magnuse        Oak++
10:01 cait           hi again brooke
10:01 mtj_mumbai     'This module is mostly a Perl-rewrite of http://github.com/einars/js-beautify/tree/master/beautify.js'
10:01 Oak            \o
10:01 Brooke         o/
10:01 Oak            not annoying!
10:01 mtj_mumbai     http://search.cpan.org/~fayland/JavaScript-Beautifier-0.17/lib/JavaScript/Beautifier.pm
10:01 cait           probably an annoying ladybug then :)
10:01 Oak            magnuse, hmm, okay, i saw a lady working on Winisis in our university. and found out that she was "learning" Winisis because her boss (where she works in daytime) wants her to automate their library. I told her she should not be investing time and effort on Winisis. And I told her to try Koha.
10:00 mtj_mumbai     http://jsbeautifier.org/
09:59 mtj_mumbai     paul_p:  https://github.com/einars/js-beautify
09:59 Oak            :)
09:58 cait           lol
09:58 Oak            you are our ladybug cait
09:58 cait           I think owen even did have a demo somewhere, but didn't find it
09:57 cait           I knew there was one
09:57 cait           I have werid memory for bugs
09:57 paul_p         cait, i tried, when entering the bug (with the live search for duplicates). I missed this one it seems
09:56 magnuse        Oak: you need root/sudo access...
09:56 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7182 enhancement, P2, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , remove old-style date picker (calendar)
09:56 cait           paul_p: I added a note about the date picker to bug 7182 - please use bugzilla search ;)
09:56 magnuse        guten tag cait
09:56 huginn         New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6471: add tablesorter to Holds Queue <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0ea8ff7c4c81c183ba8da64d7939b041c7de8301>
09:55 cait           hi magnuse :)
09:54 Oak            is it possible (yet) to install Koha on shared hosting?
09:54 magnuse        and a cool feature!
09:54 cait           ah
09:54 cait           hm which?
09:53 sekjal         wow, that's an old bug number!
09:52 Oak            paul_p++
09:50 huginn         New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 1633] Add ability to take book cover images from local img db <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1633>
09:48 magnuse        and namaskar #koha
09:48 magnuse        Oak
09:48 Oak            magnuse
09:41 jenkins_koha   Starting build 514 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #491 18 j ago)
09:37 huginn         eythian: The operation succeeded.
09:37 eythian        @later tell anandology found some issues with the API, added details to bug 7152
09:37 Oak            oleonard++
09:36 cait           whoohoo :)
09:36 huginn         New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 7085 - Problems with searching for orders in acquisitions <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0c0ddf92113b4a5df6833f75ba5b7ad7527c5f48> / Follow-up fix for Bug 3958, Standardize vendor/supplier/bookseller terminology <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0038b0df15a838468bf7c23a389c260075dfd1c4>
09:32 Brooke         so true
09:32 Brooke         noice
09:29 huginn         New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7186] add new 'Koha Stats' tab to 'About' page <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7186>
09:29 cait           anitsirk++
09:29 cait           lol
09:28 rangi          http://www.flickr.com/photos/4nitsirk/6317867186/
09:24 Brooke         Ahm in India with the cool kidses
09:24 Oak            oh
09:24 Brooke         I never went to sleep
09:24 cait           hi kmkale :)
09:23 kmkale         hi cait :)
09:23 Oak            who woke you up? and more importantly is he/she still alive?
09:23 Oak            \o
09:21 cait           hi brooke
09:19 Brooke         o/
08:56 huginn         New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7185] Update to 3.6 say "Koha release 3.4" <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7185> / [Bug 7184] have mysql returning errors <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7184>
08:52 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7085 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Problems with searching for orders in acquisitions
08:52 cait           bug 7085
08:52 sekjal         brb
08:52 sekjal         7085 passed QA
08:51 cait           hehe
08:50 rangi          so will be paranoid for at least a month
08:49 * rangi        has just been at kiwicon, watching things get pwned thru sql injections when scripts give out too much information
08:48 paul_p         rangi, depends: I think we (BibLibre) will set it for staff, as we sometimes have tickets opened saying "I entered that, and got no results, no complain". But for OPAC, 100% agreeing with you
08:47 rangi          yep, dangerous otherwise
08:47 rangi          cool
08:47 paul_p         so it's OK
08:47 paul_p         rangi, if you haven't explictly set DEBUG 1, it won't make anything
08:46 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6679 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Fixing code so it passes basic Perl::Critic tests
08:46 paul_p         lol for chris patch 1st line = Bug 6679 : Not using strict .. bad script, no cookie for you!
08:46 rangi          just need to make sure that 7184 is off by default, you never want those errors going to the browser in production
08:46 paul_p         sekjal, now testing (&signing) 6679 -perlcritic- submitted by rangi
08:44 sekjal         paul_p: awesome
08:44 paul_p         sekjal, = 7184 (mysql raiseerror) needs signoff
08:34 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6893 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, adrien.saurat, ASSIGNED , Order from suggestion does not remove suggestion from 'accepted' list
08:34 wahanui        bug 6893 is evil :(
08:34 cait           bug 6893
08:34 cait           and the suggestion not being acceptes
08:33 cait           becase it breaks the workflow
08:33 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6740 critical, P5 - low, ---, henridamien, NEW , can add items at ordering but not remove items
08:33 cait           and we need to fix some evil bugs like bug 6740
08:32 cait           so if you are working on rebasing new features now... we will likely get conflicts
08:30 cait           which owen did in order to make it possible to have better navigation options later
08:30 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7113 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Standardize vendor id name in templates and scripts
08:30 cait           and here is bug 7113
08:29 cait           because will need to be backported to 3.6
08:29 cait           and I hoped those could go in before the new features
08:29 cait           bug fixes mostly
08:29 cait           was telling him right now there are 14 in the signed off queue for acq
08:29 cait           if I could be there too it would be easy :)
08:29 cait           that's good :)
08:29 paul_p         (and sekjal just is sitted on my right !)
08:28 paul_p         cait, yep, i'm still here
08:24 cait           hm
08:21 cait           someone there still? :)
08:19 cait           conflicts I mean, when reabasing/testing
08:18 cait           waiting in your qa queue
08:18 cait           basically all acq files were touched recently
08:18 cait           and I did changes
08:18 cait           for examle owen did some code cleanup
08:18 paul_p         cait, what kind of "crashing" ?
08:18 cait           avoid more conflicts later on
08:18 cait           so perhaps we should try not to have them stay in the sign-off queue for too long
08:18 paul_p         cait, let me also ask francharb to upload his presentation
08:17 cait           andI am a bit worried it will crash with what oleonard and me worked on
08:17 paul_p         cait, yep. back from lunch
08:17 cait           I see there is a lot of work doneon acq
08:17 cait           ah
08:17 sekjal         cait: just got back
08:03 cait           sekjal, paul_p: around?
07:31 * Brooke       is not a good mummy.
07:31 cait           at least nobody has tried to send me to bed yet
07:30 Brooke         1ish but still :)
07:29 Oak            go to bed at noon?
07:28 * Brooke       doesn't want to go to bed, so there :P
07:18 Oak            :)
07:18 cait           hi Oak :)
07:18 Oak            hello cait
07:15 rangi          hehe
07:13 wizzyrea       soon loves
07:13 cait           wizzyrea: go to bed :P
07:12 rangi          ah
07:11 wizzyrea       to CST
07:11 wizzyrea       and we just fell back
07:11 wizzyrea       :)
07:11 wizzyrea       it's saturday
07:11 rangi          why is wizzyrea still awake?
07:10 wizzyrea       hi cait
07:10 cait           hi #koha
07:08 huginn         New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5327] Unit tests required for all C4 modules <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5327>
06:59 Brooke         I can poke her if ye want
06:55 rangi          but you arent
06:55 rangi          yep
06:51 Amit_Gupta     Good by all ;D
06:51 jransom        Chris: you still about?
06:49 Brooke         looking like 2% compleat on Marathi
06:48 Brooke         it's a full house down here which is teh awesome
06:48 Brooke         pretty good :D
06:47 kmkale         Brooke: how is it going there?
06:40 Amit_Gupta     :D
06:40 Brooke         Fact: The power button on this terminal is conveniently located at toe left on me left leg. XD
06:40 Amit_Gupta     heya Brooke
06:40 Oak            small o today, hmm
06:40 Brooke         o/
06:40 Oak            oh look Brooke is here
06:39 Oak            heya Amit_Gupta
06:39 Amit_Gupta     heya Oak
06:33 * Oak          waves
06:26 * Brooke       is just barely resisting the urge to add "ta" and "ay?" to translation strings.
06:26 Brooke         ta!
06:21 eythian        however, I've just added your update.
06:20 Brooke         even a yank can do catalog --> catalogue conversions ;)
06:20 Brooke         I'm just doing the best I can to do what Marijana said :D
06:20 Brooke         well yucky
06:19 eythian        Brooke: there are errors in the en_NZ translation that cause JS to break on the client.
06:16 sekjal         http://www.linux-live.org/
06:15 Brooke         #231 in NZ Translation http://translate.koha-community.org/en_NZ/36/translate.html?unitstates=fuzzy,untranslated should really be broken up
06:14 huginn         sekjal: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011)
06:14 sekjal         @quote get 123
06:13 huginn         sekjal: I've exhausted my database of quotes
06:13 sekjal         @quote 123
06:08 eythian        (it's a bit dated now, mind)
06:08 eythian        http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?p=public-sector-remix.git;a=summary <-- should anyone be interested in this sort of thing...
06:07 dpavlin        eythian: agreed.
05:54 eythian        because you can't reproduce what you've done from scratch with minor changes. It also means, if you want two slightly different versions for some reason, you can never resolve your forks.
05:53 dpavlin        eythian: how is this different from hacking on debian-live?
05:52 dpavlin        coffee and tea available outside hacking room if anybody is interesetd (and in Thane ;-)
05:39 eythian        then to change things, you change the script and regenerate
05:39 eythian        My suggestion - and I've done this - is build a script that takes a stock ISO, makes the changes, and rebuilds into a new ISO
05:39 eythian        (as someone who has built images that way, it's a bad idea when you want to change it)
05:38 eythian        sekjal: I don't recommend doing it that way
05:34 jransom        I am very very pleased - so exciting :)
05:34 jransom        oh -
05:34 dpavlin        jransom: but shiny GUI login is allready working as I type this :-)
05:33 jransom        (interested in the latter -not the former)
05:33 sekjal         anyone know a slick way to turn a VM into a disk image?
05:33 jransom        will it be watching a file download or entering configuration options?
05:33 sekjal         want to have both package and git install options
05:33 sekjal         looking to make an updated Koha LiveCD for 3.6
05:33 jransom        oh excellent. I wonder if I should come and watch the koha set up
05:32 dpavlin        jransom: next step is koha install (thus, a bit more download) and we are golden after that
05:32 rangi          heya sekjal
05:32 Amit_Gupta     heya sekjal
05:32 dpavlin        jransom: finished downloading, running various setup scripts from packages right now
05:32 sekjal         hi rangi, jransom, Amit_Gupta!
05:31 jransom        as in - am I holding you up now - should I come upstairs yet
05:30 jransom        Dobrika: how is my new baby coming along
05:29 jransom        ah - more translators setting up next door
05:21 * druthb1      got led around the market like their crazy old auntie yesterday...was great fun.
05:21 jransom        maybe i should go run interfecrnce in the hall and keep then coming in.
05:21 druthb1        hehehe...bet they're looking for me, by now.
05:20 jransom        actually there are seats buthard to get the pcs working
05:20 jransom        another 3 have turned up - thats 6 who have had to leave coz no seats
05:20 rangi          hey Amit_Gupta
05:20 Amit_Gupta     heya rangi
05:20 jransom        (thinks she is more of a Mother hen than me ...)
05:20 rangi          best bet would be spending a week reading stuff, but thats not likely to happen
05:19 jransom        oh the Ruth's glam girls just walked in - and out again
05:18 * druthb1      chuckles.
05:17 * eythian      will be in a plane all day tomorrow :D
05:16 small          bye
05:16 small          i'll come back tomorrow
05:16 small          i'll come back tomoroow
05:16 small          i just want it on my localhost, inside my network
05:15 wizzyrea       small: everyone's network is different
05:15 small          im stupid when it comes to this
05:15 small          how do i do that?
05:15 eythian        but, if you can't do that, then you should change the apache config to work how you need it to work.
05:15 small          how do i do that?
05:15 small          i didn't do that
05:15 eythian        and set your DNS up to point to
05:15 small          i confiured it?
05:14 small          ...
05:14 eythian        it's whatever you configured it to be.
05:14 small          then what is it?
05:14 small          what is it?
05:14 eythian        it uses virtual hosts
05:14 eythian        it's not :8080
05:14 small          just not :8080
05:14 small          localhost works
05:14 small          yes
05:14 wizzyrea       is apache running?
05:13 small          yes
05:13 wizzyrea       is koha running on the machine you're typing from?
05:13 small          Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at localhost:8080.
05:13 small          nothing
05:13 wizzyrea       http://localhost:8080
05:13 wizzyrea       um, visit the web page?
05:12 small          now what?
05:12 small          ok
05:12 wizzyrea       small: sudo koha-enable mylibrary
05:12 small          Anyone?
05:12 wahanui        Someone is missing
05:12 small          Someone?
05:12 small          eythain ?
05:12 * druthb1      is having fun watching sekjal having fun.
05:11 * sekjal       is having a lot of fun working on ways to make Koha cleaner and more efficient
05:11 small          eythain ?
05:11 sekjal         thanks, mtj_mumbai!
05:10 mtj_mumbai     sekjal paul_p ->  http://wiki.dandascalescu.com/howtos/indenting_tt_and_html
05:09 small          now how do i install it?
05:09 small          oops
05:09 small          ls
05:08 small          now how do i install it?
05:08 small          now how do i install it>
05:08 small          that works now! :D thanks
05:07 * eythian      returns to making openlibrary stuff go. There is more documentation around to get you going, if you follow links etc.
05:07 eythian        :)
05:07 * wizzyrea     is sleepy
05:07 wizzyrea       ^ sorry
05:06 eythian        sudo koha-create --create-db mylibrary
05:06 wizzyrea       koha-create mylibrary
05:06 small          how do i create one?
05:06 small          probably
05:06 small          oh, i think i put Mylibary
05:06 eythian        but I suspect you haven't tried to create one yet, or you wouldn't be asking these questions.
05:05 eythian        the name of their library.
05:05 small          what do people normaly put?
05:05 small          oh
05:05 rangi          heh
05:05 eythian        there is no default
05:05 wahanui        default is ports for those who dont have access/skills to run dns
05:05 small          what is default?
05:05 eythian        that too
05:05 * wizzyrea     startles at the rangi signting
05:05 rangi          not koha-koha-enable
05:05 small          ... umm
05:05 rangi          also its koha-enable
05:05 eythian        no, they're the name of the instance you gave to koha-create
05:04 wahanui        well, koha is a free software ils see http://koha-community.org for more info
05:04 small          koha?
05:04 small          What are they then
05:04 small          oh
05:04 eythian        they're not supposed to be literal
05:04 small          i did?
05:04 eythian        'instance1' and 'instance2' are the names of the instances you created.
05:04 small          uh oh
05:04 eythian        there's a fundamental bit of understanding missing there.
05:03 eythian        umm
05:03 small          :/
05:03 small          koha-koha-email-enable: command not found
05:03 small          koha-koha-email-enable instance1 instance2
05:03 eythian        we don't know what you are doing
05:02 small          errors command not found
05:02 small          errors command not founr
05:01 small          thanks
05:01 eythian        http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Commands_provided_by_the_Debian_packages#E-mail <-- read the documentation
05:01 small          + what do i do now?
05:00 eythian        design questions: I have a function in addbiblio.pl that I also want to use from openlibrary.pl. It's generating URLs, so shouldn't go in to the backend, is there somewhere suitable to put these kinds of things so I don't have to copy-pasta it?
05:00 small          :/
05:00 small          but it always errors, no such file or directory
05:00 small          but it always errors, no such file or directpry
05:00 small          koha-email-enable
05:00 small          it says to do,
05:00 small          umm
04:59 wizzyrea       ohsnap
04:59 mtj_mumbai     http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=887632
04:57 small          i just googled the error and it came up
04:57 small          oops, ok
04:56 eythian        (the first thing I looked for was 'is sudo being used', and it looked like it was)
04:56 eythian        otherwise mistakes won't get noticed.
04:56 eythian        OK, when you paste your commands, always paste your actual command
04:55 small          didn't put sudo infront of the line, hehe , oops
04:55 small          i found out why
04:55 small          ahhh
04:55 wizzyrea       maybe you don't have a listening port in your ports.conf
04:54 eythian        ah. erm. Good luck then... :) I have no idea why apache would have trouble binding a socket.
04:54 small          so what do i do :(
04:53 small          i am the "system admin" lol
04:53 eythian        that last one's OK
04:53 eythian        I'd ask your sysadmin or something, that looks like a systems problem of some sort.
04:53 small          apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName
04:53 small          also says
04:52 small          yes
04:52 eythian        that's pretty weird
04:52 small          (13)Permission denied: make_sock: could not bind to address 0.0.0.0:80 no listening sockets available, shutting down Unable to open logs
04:51 small          sudo a2enmod rewrite -- Fails
04:51 small          i needs help again
04:51 small          Anyone still here?
04:50 Brooke         Marijana++
04:50 Brooke         Marijana + just about anyone = good team
04:49 jransom        waves at Liz
04:49 jransom        Marijana and Anjali are a great team
04:49 wizzyrea       hi jransom
04:48 jransom        a full class room down here
04:48 wizzyrea       it only costs $50 and your root password ;)
04:48 jransom        hiya
04:47 eythian        Y'know, I think we need an auto-provisioning pay-by-paypal type koha setup for people to use when they're trying to set up stuff like that, and can't.
04:47 druthb1        hi, jransom!
04:45 wizzyrea       duly noted
04:45 wizzyrea       oh good I didn't realize that had been taken care of
04:44 small          thanks
04:44 eythian        http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.2_on_Debian_Squeeze
04:44 small          so what one? can you give me the link again please
04:44 eythian        the main difference is those dependencies, and that's been taken care of
04:44 wizzyrea       *nod*
04:44 eythian        but they're very close
04:44 eythian        yeah
04:43 wizzyrea       he's on ubuntu
04:43 eythian        the wiki page about using the debian packages
04:43 wahanui        which one is it
04:43 small          which one?
04:42 eythian        small: then ignore it, and just follow the information on the page I sent you before
04:42 wizzyrea       ah,perhaps it should be updated
04:42 eythian        wizzyrea: ^
04:42 eythian        that guide says to install the 'koha' package, rather than koha-common. That's not a good idea at the moment.
04:42 small          i dont know anything about those
04:41 eythian        I'm not sure how the ppa differs from the debian.k-c.org packages. Possibly more Ubuntu specific, but they'll be virtually identical I think
04:41 wizzyrea       http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_Lucid_using_Koha_packages
04:40 small          eythain, i dont know what to do
04:40 small          do you know what to do with this, https://launchpad.net/~koha/+archive/ppa
04:38 small          do you know what to do with this, https://launchpad.net/~koha/+archive/ppa
04:38 small          ok
04:37 wizzyrea       but please don't, ok?
04:36 small          and that ethain guy ran away
04:36 small          Oh, but it id fun, lol
04:36 wizzyrea       it's best to not make him forget stuff unless it's wrong.
04:36 wizzyrea       small: wahanui keeps good stuff for us
04:36 small          lolollopolololololololol
04:35 wahanui        small: I forgot everything
04:35 small          forget everything
04:35 wizzyrea       oo oo oo
04:35 small          lol
04:35 small          Yay
04:35 wahanui        small: I forgot you
04:35 small          forget you
04:35 small          forgget you
04:34 small          :o
04:34 wahanui        wizzyrea: I forgot one
04:34 wizzyrea       forget one
04:34 wahanui        i think one is readyish, it has had qa and some feedback provided, if you wanted to respond to the questions in that feedback then that branch could be merged
04:34 small          what one?
04:34 eythian        have you read the rest of the information on that page that tells you what you need to do?
04:33 small          Now what?
04:32 small          that worked fine
04:32 small          i did that
04:32 eythian        well then, try to install koha-common
04:32 small          :p
04:32 small          i did
04:32 eythian        you said you have broken dependencies. You'll have to fix those.
04:31 small          what do i do after that?
04:31 small          now how do i install koha
04:31 small          well, i did what he said
04:30 eythian        small: you'll have to be more specific
04:29 small          Now what do i do?
04:29 small          eythain
04:29 small          eythain
04:29 small          Now what do i do?
04:28 small          Now what do i do?
04:28 small          i fixed it
04:28 small          nevermind
04:27 small          That file says i have broken dependicies
04:26 * druthb       may disappear briefly, as well.
04:26 * eythian      updates the wiki
04:26 eythian        http://debian.catalyst.net.nz/debian/pool/main/libt/libtext-csv-perl/libtext-csv-perl_1.21-1_all.deb
04:25 sekjal         may disappear briefly; will be back
04:25 small          on the download, libtext-csv-perl_1.17-1_all.deb
04:24 small           404
04:21 small          ok
04:21 eythian        download them and install them
04:21 small          ok, what do i do with them>
04:20 * eythian      needs to update that URL to be 3.6
04:20 eythian        http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.2_on_Debian_Squeeze#Other_packages <-- small, these are what you need
04:19 small527       ok
04:19 eythian        wait
04:19 eythian        hmm.
04:19 small527       The following packages have unmet dependencies:   koha-common: Depends: libhttp-oai-perl but it is not installable                Depends: liblocale-currency-format-perl but it is not installable                Depends: libmemoize-memcached-perl but it is not installable                Depends: libpdf-api2-simple-perl but it is not installable                Depends: libtext-csv-encoded-perl but it is not installable
04:19 wahanui        okay, eythian.
04:19 small527       here is what is broken
04:19 eythian        no wahanui, broken is not what we want.
04:19 small527       oh noes
04:19 wahanui        i guess broken is what we want, for teaching purposes
04:19 eythian        what's broken?
04:18 small527       :'(
04:18 small527       Broken Packages
04:18 small527       IT errors
04:18 small527       :(
04:18 small527       lets see!\
04:18 small527       and now that install koa common thing
04:17 eythian        sweet as
04:17 small527       i did the sudo apt-get update and that worked
04:17 eythian        then you're good
04:16 small527       then my promt
04:16 small527       OK
04:16 small527       i just pushed enter, now it says
04:16 small527       no
04:16 eythian        are you back at your prompt?
04:16 small527       i have used it lots
04:16 small527       it hasn't said anything
04:16 eythian        (although, probably not if you've used sudo recently)
04:16 eythian        is it perhaps asking your password?
04:16 eythian        it should say that, and then say 'OK'
04:16 eythian        I just checked
04:16 eythian        ah right
04:15 small527       user@ubuntu-server:/etc/apt$ wget -O- http://debian.koha-community.org/koha/gpg.asc | sudo apt-key add -
04:15 small527       is it still getting it?
04:15 eythian        what did you paste?
04:15 small527       just a empty box
04:15 small527       then nothing
04:15 small527       2011-11-05 21:12:14 (66.2 KB/s) - written to stdout [26919/26919]
04:14 small527       100%[===========================================================================>] 26,919      66.2K/s   in 0.4s
04:14 small527       Saving to: `STDOUT'
04:14 small527       it just said,
04:14 small527       i geuss
04:14 eythian        it should just say 'OK' I think
04:14 small527       yes
04:14 eythian        cool
04:14 small527       i think its working now
04:14 eythian        wizzyrea: spend a year here, and that sort of thing'll be normal ;)
04:13 small527       lol, thats what it did
04:13 eythian        otherwise, it'll display random character symbols everywhere and glitch your terminal :)
04:12 small527       ok
04:12 small527       oh
04:12 eythian        not just half of it
04:12 eythian        paste the whole line
04:12 small527       oh
04:12 eythian        you didn't paste the right thing
04:12 eythian        wait
04:12 small527       the few lines after my command was
04:12 small527       wget -O- http://debian.koha-community.org/koha/gpg.asc
04:11 small527       and the line i put in was
04:11 eythian        I think you may have pasted the wrong thing
04:11 small527       c: command not found
04:11 small527       9: command not found
04:11 small527       62: command not found
04:11 small527       then said,
04:11 small527       it showed random charecter symbols everywhere
04:10 eythian        what do you mean?
04:10 small527       i enterd that WGET line, and it glithced my terminal
04:10 wizzyrea       showoff ;)
04:10 * eythian      one-ups ;)
04:09 small527       :o
04:09 eythian        http://www.geonet.org.nz/earthquake/drums/mqz-drum.html <-- quiet day in NZ
04:09 wizzyrea       just enough to make me think I was losing my mind.
04:09 wizzyrea       was just a jiggle here
04:09 wizzyrea       oh no definitely not here
04:09 sekjal         wizzyrea:  but everyone's okay?  no damage you can see?
04:09 wizzyrea       eythian: http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsus/Maps/US2/35.37.-98.-96.php
04:08 eythian        if you can't copy-paste, you're going to have bigger problems.
04:08 eythian        small527: what won't let you copy what?
04:08 wizzyrea       lol
04:08 wizzyrea       here it does
04:08 * small527     goes to do it manuly :(
04:07 wizzyrea       !!!
04:07 eythian        <5.0 != earthquake
04:07 wizzyrea       lol now they say it was 5.8 in Oklahoma
04:07 small527       It is not letting me copy that code
04:07 wizzyrea       but I and lots others here def felt it
04:07 druthb         yowza!
04:07 wizzyrea       4.7 in Oklahoma, maybe 4 hours away?
04:06 small527       :o
04:06 wizzyrea       why yes, in fact there was just an earthquake in kansas.
04:06 eythian        Brooke: you forgot the forget rule.
04:06 eythian        Brooke: forget forget
04:06 small527       oops
04:05 eythian        small527: from the instructions here: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.4_on_Debian_Squeeze
04:05 small527       ok, thankss
04:05 eythian        small527: wget -O- http://debian.koha-community.org/koha/gpg.asc | sudo apt-key add -
04:05 small527       lol
04:05 wahanui        Brooke: I forgot anyone
04:05 Brooke         wahanui forget anyone
04:05 Brooke         wahanui is a bot
04:03 small527       I think he is a bot
04:03 wahanui        I LIKE BAO or all about the resluts
04:03 small527       wizzyrea
04:03 small527       What?
04:02 wahanui        Anyone is using tags ? Trying to use them in master in opac-detail.pl and they seem completly broken to me :S
04:02 small527       Anyone?
04:01 small527       W: GPG error: http://debian.koha-community.org squeeze-dev Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 14D36485A99CEB6D
04:00 small527       I have a problem with jcamons idea
04:00 small527       Anyone still here?
03:57 small527       :o
03:57 wizzyrea       how is that even possible
03:57 wizzyrea       or I just felt an earthquake?
03:57 small527       lol
03:57 wizzyrea       ok, either there is lots of wind
03:56 * small527     is off to do that
03:56 small527       haha, ok
03:56 wizzyrea       i guarantee that manual install doesn't get easier
03:56 jcamins_away   ;)
03:56 small527       ok, i'll try that
03:56 jcamins_away   And I'm about to go to sleep, so you'll probably be on your own until Monday.
03:56 small527       ok, i'll try taht
03:56 small527       That is true
03:56 jcamins_away   small527: you ran into a problem on step 2 installing it manually. ;)
03:55 jcamins_away   Yes, that works perfectly.
03:55 small527       Maybe i should just keep doing it manuly
03:55 small527       and that works?
03:54 jcamins_away   And sudo apt-get install koha-common
03:54 jcamins_away   Ran sudo apt-get update
03:54 jcamins_away   to my /etc/apt/sources.list file,
03:54 jcamins_away   I always added the line: deb http://debian.koha-community.org/koha squeeze-dev main
03:54 small527       i will look at that
03:54 small527       hmm
03:54 small527       ok
03:53 jcamins_away   I don't know exactly how to use that, but I guess Ubuntu people do.
03:53 jcamins_away   https://launchpad.net/~koha/+archive/ppa
03:53 small527       ok, i will wait
03:53 jcamins_away   Wait, no, rangi said there's an even better thing.
03:52 jcamins_away   http://debian.koha-community.org/koha/README
03:52 small527       and how do i use them?
03:52 small527       So what are these .deb packages?
03:52 small527       I am here
03:51 small          moving to other computer
03:51 small          just a sec
03:51 small            10.10
03:50 jcamins_away   What version of Ubuntu are you on?
03:50 jcamins_away   So much easier!
03:50 small          oh, is that easyer?
03:50 jcamins_away   small: there are .deb packages for installing Koha.
03:50 sandeepbhavsar Kohacon11 news in DNA at  http://epaper.dnaindia.com/epapermain.aspx?edorsup=Sup&queryed=37&querypage=7&boxid=30762914&parentid=153604&eddate=11/05/2011
03:49 small          what do you mean?
03:49 jcamins_away   small: but, bigger question: why aren't you using packages?
03:49 small          ok, i will look there
03:49 jcamins_away   small: the instructions in install.debian are a little bit more clear.
03:49 small          but,
03:49 small          :) Yay
03:49 jcamins_away   Okay, good. :)
03:49 small          3.06.00.000 is the folder name
03:48 jcamins_away   small: is that 3.6.0 or 3.0.6?
03:48 small          what do i do?
03:48 small          line, and it says that it is BAD
03:48 small          I ran the misc/sax_praser_print.pl
03:48 small          Here is another question
03:48 Brooke         o1
03:48 small          Ok
03:47 small             3.06
03:47 small          i have the latest version
03:47 small          i am getting them from the install.ubuntu file
03:46 jcamins_away   small: also, where are you getting your directions from?
03:46 jcamins_away   small: yes, but what version of Koha?
03:46 wizzyrea       probably playing liberator on my Tandy TRS80
03:46 small          i am going to try that
03:46 small          I put it on my desktop
03:46 small          So i cd to where i downloaded koha to
03:46 eythian        what were you doing when the rest of us were poking away in asm on a 286?
03:46 small          Hello
03:46 small          oh
03:45 wizzyrea       ohhh
03:45 eythian        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gate_A20#A20_gate
03:45 eythian        you people have no sense of history!
03:44 wizzyrea       or the need help in the background?
03:44 jcamins_away   Gate A20? Does that mean something I don't recognize?
03:43 eythian        http://www.pagetable.com/docs/gate_a20.jpg <-- now there's a sign worth stealing
03:43 jcamins_away   What version of Koha?
03:43 jcamins_away   Then you need to cd to the directory where you downloaded Koha to.
03:43 small          but koha does not exist :/
03:42 small          i type in cd koha
03:42 small          i am on, 2.3 Test your SAX Paraser
03:42 small          i have been fallowing the manual, but now i am stuck
03:42 small          I am stuck on the install part
03:42 * small        needs help
03:41 small          Help?
03:38 jcamins_away   wizzyrea: oh, yeah, _there_ one could find mad schemes.
03:37 wizzyrea       definitely some creative, mad schemes there
03:37 wizzyrea       or maybe you have O.o
03:37 wizzyrea       clearly you haven't been looking at the books of most wall street firms recently
03:36 jcamins_away   I don't know, accounting doesn't seem so completely illogical. Just quickbooks.
03:36 wizzyrea       s/library/accounting
03:35 huginn         wizzyrea: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011)
03:35 wizzyrea       @quote get 123
03:35 wizzyrea       accounting also follows the rule of
03:35 jcamins_away   windows--
03:35 jcamins_away   Actually, let's acknowledge the real root of the problem:
03:35 Danielle       They too write non-deterministic software, eh?
03:35 wizzyrea       it's never the same twice
03:34 wizzyrea       oy, quickbooks has also given me fits the many times I've installed it
03:34 jcamins_away   quickbooks-- # installing software shouldn't be this hard.
03:33 wizzyrea       hehe nice
03:33 * druthb       needs to get a pic of kmkale in his kurta today; he looks *magnificent*.
03:32 wizzyrea       :D nice!
03:32 druthb         If I was any better, local police would think I'm up to something, and detain me.  Aside from a case of traveler's trots-- :P --I'm giddily happy.
03:31 wizzyrea       hm, the medium length version?
03:31 druthb         Do you want the 10K+ word answer, or the short one, wizzyrea?
03:31 * Danielle     is figuring out public transit options. Wild Saturday night here in Durham...
03:31 wizzyrea       how are ya
03:31 * druthb       sees wizzyrea and squees happily
03:30 wizzyrea       :)
03:30 druthb         !
03:30 * wizzyrea     yawns
03:30 druthb         it is, here.  :)
03:30 jcamins_away   Yikes!
03:30 jcamins_away   Oh, it's tomorrow already?
03:29 druthb         0900.
03:29 jcamins_away   druthb: isn't it rather late?
03:29 Danielle       druthb++ # ;)
03:29 druthb         Brooke++ #just because
03:28 huginn         druthb: Karma for "Brooke" has been increased 29 times and decreased 2 times for a total karma of 27.
03:28 druthb         @karma Brooke
03:26 paul_p         hello Amit_Gupta !
03:24 Amit_Gupta     heya paul_p good morning
03:13 eythian        that's two words...
03:06 julian_m       hi Amit_Gupta
03:06 wahanui        Good luck getting ten words out of this one...
03:06 Amit_Gupta     heya julian_m