Time  Nick        Message
23:19 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7128 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, NEW , logged in and logged out states of opac-main.tt are hard to style
23:19 rangi       bug 7128 ... you might like to look at my follow up on there for gbsd :)
23:18 rangi       wizzyrea: you got a sec?
22:53 rangi       cya cait
22:53 cait        bye #koha :)
22:40 rangi       apparently ppl are coming to look
22:40 ibeardslee  cool .. .. .. ;)
22:40 rangi       yes
22:40 ibeardslee  does Pauline know?
22:40 rangi       yeah
22:40 ibeardslee  rangi: on L7?
22:37 rangi       cos the aircon isnt working
22:37 rangi       and its more like 23 in here
22:37 huginn      rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 15.0�C (11:00 AM NZDT on November 04, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Pressure: 29.53 in 1000 hPa (Falling).
22:37 rangi       @wunder wellington nz
22:37 trea        how's welly today?
22:36 trea        hi rangi
22:36 rangi       sup trea
22:14 talljoy     lol.  I guess I'll enter a bug,  but I don't want any closer association with MARC authority records.
22:12 rangi       yes, yes it does
22:11 talljoy     that seems bug-like
22:11 talljoy     i get that 'search main heading' will pull up my personal name authority records, but why does the 'search authorities' option return no results.
22:09 cait        talljoy: this bug is not in koha - so perhaps only confusing
22:08 talljoy     authorities are going to be the death of me.
22:05 talljoy     ok.  i need to see what version of koha i am looking at here.
22:04 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5910 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Authorities : allow users to search on all auth types
22:04 cait        ah, I was thinking about bug 5910
22:00 cait        perhaps I can find the bug
22:00 cait        I tested something about authority searching and the default thing
22:00 cait        hmmm
22:00 talljoy     phew.  it's not me then.
22:00 rangi       something changed recent ish
21:59 rangi       i think its a bug
21:59 rangi       yeah, id noticed that before talljoy
21:59 talljoy     how did i import....let me think....i believe it was through the command line.
21:59 talljoy     they appear when i click on 'search main heading' but not if i search on the default "search authorities'
21:58 rangi       if you change it search headings do they?
21:58 cait        how did you import them? an dhow are they not appearing as expected?
21:57 talljoy     i'm looking for authority records in the staff client and none are appearing like expected even after authorities are reindexed
21:57 * talljoy   ducks
21:57 talljoy     speaking of MARC.
21:55 rangi       doesnt stop ppl using it ;-)
21:55 rhcl        oh
21:55 rangi       its been dead for 30 years
21:55 rangi       MARC
21:54 rhcl        demise of LC?
21:51 rangi       but id hope that this will at least hasten their demise
21:51 rangi       :)
21:51 rangi       LoC says lots of things
21:50 cait        ah k
21:50 rhcl        Well, LC says MARC and Z39-2 are dead?
21:50 rangi       show
21:50 cait        sh is for?
21:50 cait        the git thing is nice
21:50 rangi       try a git lg
21:49 rangi       checkt that out
21:49 rangi       git config --global alias.lg "log --graph --pretty=format:'%Cred%h%Creset -%C(yellow)%d%Creset %s %Cgreen(%cr) %C(bold blue)<%an>%Creset' --abbrev-commit --date=relative"
21:49 cait        he has been busy in acq too :)
21:49 cait        oleonard++ indeed
21:48 * rangi     tests more
21:48 rangi       oleonard++
21:47 rangi       owen gets back functionality we had in 1.2 but that went missing
21:47 wizzyrea    it was on my list of things that would be nice to have
21:47 wizzyrea    I actually thought of that >.>
21:47 cait        and a mail with updated patrons :)
21:47 cait        yes
21:47 wizzyrea    "but don't actually do it"
21:47 cait        ah
21:47 wizzyrea    the "show me what would happen if I ran this" mode
21:47 cait        test modes? :)
21:46 rangi       then type git sh
21:46 rangi       git config --global alias.sh 'show --word-diff=color'
21:46 wahanui     and this is probably the most crowded syspref tab
21:46 rangi       oh and this
21:42 rangi       ahh test modes are always awesome
21:42 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7077 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Add system pref to control behavior of submitting empty barcode field on circulation page
21:42 * rangi     looks at bug 7077
21:42 wizzyrea    that doesn't have the test mode bit that I want to put in
21:41 rangi       yay :)
21:41 * wizzyrea  can do both of those
21:41 rangi       you get +10 more if you switch on use warnings
21:40 rangi       you need a license statement and copyright header fwiw :-) but full marks for the POD
21:40 rangi       *nod*
21:40 wizzyrea    well, less worthful
21:39 wizzyrea    and was thus worthless
21:39 wizzyrea    only the type
21:39 wizzyrea    because the existing j2a didn't deal with the categories
21:38 wizzyrea    this is what I came up with: http://pastebin.com/qjqEUrVk
21:38 cait        ok
21:38 wizzyrea    I think it's ok
21:38 wizzyrea    :)
21:38 wizzyrea    never mind.
21:38 cait        now you confused me liz :(
21:38 rangi       ?
21:37 wizzyrea    well and geez
21:37 cait        I think you wil always want to update the category and leave the configuration for categories and types alone
21:37 wizzyrea    I suppose you could have a library where they had a single category and the usual multiple types, but it's not terribly likely
21:37 cait        hm
21:37 wizzyrea    I was worried that it would be bad to assume that one wanted to update the type without updating the category
21:37 cait        but updating the patron category
21:36 cait        I think updating the type does not make much sense
21:36 wizzyrea    so yea, ok... I think I'm right in the way I did it
21:36 wizzyrea    oh
21:36 cait        I know
21:35 wizzyrea    this isn't in the web interface
21:35 cait        to choose one from, right?
21:35 cait        it will offer you all a categories
21:35 wizzyrea    so you've got the hardcoded types, right?
21:35 cait        hit the update button
21:35 cait        if you do it now in staff
21:35 * cait      can't follow
21:35 wizzyrea    they're independent
21:34 cait        I think I would assume you will always want to go from a c to a a category
21:34 cait        ok
21:34 wizzyrea    arbitrary categories
21:34 wizzyrea    C, A for types
21:34 wizzyrea    well there are types and there are categories
21:34 cait        how else would you update?
21:34 rangi       hmm?
21:33 wizzyrea    I guess it's not safe to assume that you would always want to update the patron category when you update a kid to an adult
21:22 wizzyrea    hehe
21:22 rangi       due in 2913 seconds!
21:19 huginn      wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.
21:19 wizzyrea    @later tell oleonard "due soon" has always annoyed me personally - I wish it would just tell me when it's due.
19:34 cait        but some of them are working better now
19:34 cait        oleonard: I think there were some date formatting problems too
19:33 oleonard    I guess there are issues with what information is available to various notices.
19:33 oleonard    I notice the "Advance Notice of Item Due" notice says "due soon." No due date?
19:32 oleonard    Anything in particular you found you needed to customize in the messages?
19:31 wizzyrea    yep
19:31 oleonard    wizzyrea: Do you have EnhancedMessagingPreferences enabled in your system?
19:29 rangi       back
19:22 cait        no problem :)
19:20 nengard     sorry about that
19:20 nengard     I was doing something silly :)
19:20 nengard     figured it out!!
19:19 cait        let me check
19:19 cait        ah ok
19:19 nengard     my first attempt didn't work
19:18 nengard     I'm trying to limit it to patrons who are not expired
19:18 nengard     http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/SQL_Reports_Library#Patrons_w.2F_Fines
19:18 cait        :)
19:18 nengard     cait, i'm trying to edit a report of yours
19:11 oleonard    ^ Looking for testers wrt browser compatibility
19:10 huginn      New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7135] save button options <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7135>
19:08 cait        bye magnuse
19:07 magnuse     time to call it a day - have fun, #koha!
19:01 cait        oleonard: they were on the trip to mumbai today
19:00 rangi       my stop brb
19:00 oleonard    Not a peep from KohaCon today?
18:47 huginn      rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 13.0�C (7:00 AM NZDT on November 04, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 5.0�C. Pressure: 29.53 in 1000 hPa (Steady).
18:47 rangi       @wunder Wellington nz
18:44 magnuse     ok, just wondering ;-)
18:41 rangi       my shift key on the phone is being weird
18:41 rangi       hmm
18:41 rangi       :?
18:41 rangi       not gonna tho
18:41 rangi       I probably did say that
18:40 rangi       thats all on the releasemanagement wiki
18:40 magnuse     rangi: i just thought i remembered you said you had a list of bugs you would close when 3.6.0 was out the door...
18:40 rangi       :) even
18:39 rangi       maybe after work :?
18:39 nengard     rangi you want to sign off on my db documentation patches :) I know you do!! :)
18:39 magnuse     yay!
18:39 rangi       now I just get to do what I want :)
18:39 nengard     does the onloan field in the items table actually get populated properly?
18:39 rangi       im done, done I say
18:38 magnuse     ah, ok cool
18:38 rangi       and paul does the closing
18:38 rangi       resolved fixed
18:37 magnuse     or just marking resolved fixed and then you do the closing?
18:36 magnuse     marking resolved *and* closing?
18:36 rangi       exactly that
18:36 magnuse     like closing bugs or marking resolved or something
18:36 cait        hi rangi :)
18:35 magnuse     rangi: since paul_p isn't here at the moment, is there some kind of kleenup after 3.6.0 that would be a good activity for gbsd (which is in progress as we speak...)?
18:35 rangi       I can do that again now
18:35 rangi       heh
18:34 * oleonard  is still getting used to seeing signoffs from rangi
18:32 magnuse     kia ora rangi
18:30 wizzyrea    mornin :)
18:30 rangi       morning
18:29 cait        ooh yummy
18:29 * magnuse   shares some Dumle with #koha
18:29 magnuse     is chowing "Dumle", but that's probably a Norwegian specialty? chocolate-covered, soft caramels...
18:25 libsysguy   nom nom nom
18:25 * libsysguy takes m&m's anyway
18:25 * libsysguy is already chowing down on some subway cookies :)
18:25 magnuse     will do!
18:25 magnuse     yum, thanks!
18:24 cait        eat them!
18:24 cait        take them away from me
18:24 * cait      hands libsysguy and magnuse the last m&ms
18:24 cait        lol
18:24 magnuse     now we're talking
18:24 magnuse     yay!
18:24 libsysguy   wandering devel for excentric millionaires
18:24 libsysguy   haha so can we have the best of both
18:23 magnuse     what she said
18:23 cait        no, the nomad is druthb
18:23 magnuse     druthb has the "wandering" part down, at least ;-)
18:23 * libsysguy should go nomad like jcamins
18:23 cait        jcamins_away jcamins_away jcamins_away
18:23 libsysguy   oh haha
18:23 cait        sounds more like jared
18:23 cait        hm, no
18:22 libsysguy   isn't that druthb?
18:22 * oleonard  should get into the business of installing Koha for eccentric billionaires.
18:22 magnuse     wandering koha dev sounds cool!
18:21 cait        :)
18:19 magnuse     yay
18:18 * oleonard  puts that on his list for when he's a fabulously wealthy wandering Koha dev
18:18 magnuse     hehe, that would be cool
18:17 oleonard    One of these days I hope we get a patch submitted or signed off on from someone actually on Kiritimati
18:10 oleonard    Oh no I should have submitted my patches a few hours later!
17:54 cait        http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/2011-11-04_Global_bug_squashing_day
17:53 cait        hey - it's GBSD!
17:37 collum      hi cait  :-)
17:37 cait        :)
17:37 cait        hi collum
17:33 collum      oops
17:33 collum      ls
17:28 cait        sorry, I don't have the document here where I put it down :(
17:27 nengard     okay - i might need sekjal to do some code reading for me to solve this one then
17:26 cait        it also checked the biblio level item type and some other things
17:26 nengard     hmmmm
17:26 cait        rangi once read the code for me
17:26 cait        I think the duplicate check in cataloging works different
17:26 nengard     let's say in both
17:26 cait        the staged imports use the zebra indexes, so 020 from the marc
17:25 cait        in cataloging or in staged import?
17:24 nengard     got a question about the isbn match when adding records - is it matching on the 020 in the marc or on the isbn field in the biblioitems table?
17:08 bg          yeah more ADA the better - is the truth
17:08 cait        not sure how to test that though, will need the library helping
17:08 cait        bg: I think worst case is I will make it single links for them, but a solution that can go into koha would be nice
17:07 bg          oh screencast is slow from India
17:07 bg          :(
17:07 bg          you should say I have to "feel" into that sometime
17:06 cait        have to look into that sometime :(
17:06 cait        for a blind staff member
17:06 cait        I have alibrary reporting they have problems with the pull down buttons
17:05 * oleonard  hasn't tested browsers yet
17:05 cait        that looks really nice!
17:04 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7135 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , save button options
17:04 oleonard    Testing a possible fix for Bug 7135: http://screencast.com/t/0gBcTT6OKQ
16:58 magnuse     good afternoon, #koha
16:57 bg          heya oleonard and cait
16:56 cait        hi bg :)
16:56 oleonard    Hi bg
16:54 bg          hola koha peeps
16:12 cait        oleonard: seems chocolate fish don't stack
16:11 reiveune    bye
15:55 * oleonard  would have given it away if he could
15:55 * oleonard  found a second chocolate fish but Chore Wars made me leave it behind
15:50 * oleonard  took some liberties with that one
15:49 huginn      New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7123] barcode should be one word <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7123>
15:42 Oak         :)
15:42 cait        hello mr oak
15:42 Oak         kia ora #koha
15:42 Oak         hello miss cait :)
15:16 trea        nom nom bnom
15:16 trea        :D
15:16 cait        weak moment at the supermarket
15:15 cait        wish there was really someone to eat them before i do
15:15 cait        lol
15:15 gmcharlt    cait++
15:15 gmcharlt    botsnacks *and* people-snacks!
15:11 * cait      puts the bowl of m&ms in the middle of #koha
15:07 oleonard    spiders that ate mesquite would cause no end of problems in the barbecue industry
15:06 chris_n     spell checker strikes again
15:06 wizzyrea    thanks oleonard I think you fixed my weird perception of the word "branch"
15:05 chris_n     mosquitoes
15:05 chris_n     oops
15:05 chris_n     now a spider that ate mesquites might be more welcome around here
15:05 * wizzyrea  giggles
15:04 * cait      shares m&m s with wizzyrea
15:04 cait        hehe
15:03 chris_n     what'd you have for breakfast oleonard ;-)
15:03 * wizzyrea  pulls cait off into the corner and whispers secrets and giggles while the boys take care of the spider
15:03 * chris_n   remembers a story about 5 pound spiders
15:03 oleonard    wizzyrea: branch branch branch branch branch branch branch branch branch branch branch branch branch branch branch
15:02 * oleonard  takes back the bug spray and hands cait an empty jar and a postcard
15:01 * chris_n   hands cait bug spray
15:01 wizzyrea    does the word "branch" look weird to anyone else when they see it a lot?
14:50 cait        no, not really
14:50 oleonard    Not the kind of bug-fixing you like cait?
14:47 * cait      shudders
14:47 cait        now... someone removing this big spider from my kitchen sink would be nice
14:45 cait        you didn't have to work on fixing the ohter things ;)
14:45 cait        :)
14:45 cait        still
14:44 * oleonard  had no choice but to fix it!!
14:44 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7147 minor, P5, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Style Z39.50 search errors according to style patterns
14:44 oleonard    That one was just coincidence. I was working on Bug 7147 and realized acq's z3950 search acted differently
14:42 cait        oleonard: you are my hero for working on acq :)
14:42 huginn      New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7148] Add some error handling to Acquisitions' Z39.50 search to match Cataloging's <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7148>
14:42 reiveune    maybe only this app can open this file
14:41 reiveune    me to, but I haven't install Inkscape for the moment
14:41 cait        have to think where I saw the other version, something in grey
14:41 cait        I have it on my screen now
14:41 reiveune    :)
14:41 cait        ah ok
14:40 reiveune    cait: here we have a koha3-staff-client-logo.svg . I haven't open it but I think it's that I want
14:39 cait        you are welcome
14:39 oleonard    Nice, thanks cait
14:39 cait        reiveune: I think there are no svgs in there?
14:39 cait        reiveune: no, I think of something else
14:38 cait        oleonard: if you use ALL in front of your search term it will include closed bugs
14:38 reiveune    cait: thanks maybe you think at misc/interface_customization
14:37 cait        reiveune: not sure who it was, perhaps mtj?
14:37 cait        reiveune: I think someone has done a svg already
14:15 oleonard    I really should count how many times I go to fix a bug and find another bug
14:03 libsysguy   haha exactly
14:03 oleonard    Spoken like someone who has never been release manager :P
14:02 libsysguy   no excuses :p
14:01 oleonard    The release manager is at KohaCon
14:01 libsysguy   ok so am I crazy or have there been no pushes to master since 3.6
14:00 oleonard    commit 16fef8ba3e18c12347f35ff24a43c20d7ee53a8c added some error handling to cataloguing's z39.50 search but not to acquisitions'
14:00 oleonard    In other Bugzilla news coming from my brain, I'm very glad we're putting bug numbers in commits now. It's disconcerting now to see commits without them
13:58 oleonard    I *really* want an option in Bugzilla to "expand search to closed bugs" on the search results page
13:58 libsysguy   morning #Koha
13:09 huginn      New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7146] Update timestamps when deleting a biblio <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7146>
13:01 jwagner     I found one of my sites with a connection to Cuyahoga, and it's searching fine
13:00 * oleonard  wonders if we'll ever change the spelling of IndependantBranches
12:59 jwagner     Nope, don't have those set up somewhere where I could test them....
12:56 oleonard    Ohiolink, Colorado Unified Catalog, Cuyahoga County Public Library
12:54 jwagner     oleonard, what targets?  Common ones like LC?
12:51 * oleonard  is suspicious
12:51 oleonard    On my server or theirs? If theirs, why the same error from 3 different sources?
12:51 oleonard    Z39.50 search error "1: Permanent system error: Permanent system error: Bib-1"
12:38 oleonard    I don't know the font, but you'll find Inkscape-compatible files there with vector versions of the logo
12:38 oleonard    There are a few logo files included in the Koha source. Look in misc/interface_customization
12:38 oleonard    I'll say it here too if anyone is interested in the answer
12:36 reiveune    Owen gave me a very good answer, thanks
12:17 reiveune    thanks
12:17 reiveune    http://lists.katipo.co.nz/pipermail/koha/attachments/20060711/9a1ce0be/koha-llibrary-system-logo-2005-0001.jpg
12:17 reiveune    Excuse me, I'd like to try to reproduce the logo of Koha with Inkscape (with vector graphics, not bitmap). Someone could tell me what is the font used by the logo displayed on the OPAC (or two fonts used in the picture below :
11:57 huginn      chris_n: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is 1.0�C (7:35 AM EDT on November 03, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 1.0�C. Pressure: 30.23 in 1024 hPa (Falling).
11:57 chris_n     @wunder 28334
10:33 wahanui     cait: excuse me?
10:33 cait        wahanui: it's over!
10:33 cait        hi jcamins
10:33 wahanui     Hi cait. are you looking at the rwc final?
10:33 jcamins     Hi cait.
09:53 huginn      cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 8.2�C (10:49 AM CET on November 03, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Windchill: 8.0�C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010.0 hPa (Steady).
09:53 cait        @wunder Konstanz
08:54 mib_8pnrbv  ?
08:54 mib_8pnrbv  can anyone hlp us
08:46 hdl         namaste India
08:25 magnuse     bonjour france
08:24 cait        hi hdl
08:17 hdl         hi all
07:53 marcelr     hi cait
07:52 cait        morning marcelr
07:50 marcelr     morning koha
07:46 reiveune    :)
07:46 reiveune    hi cait
07:46 cait        hi reiveune
07:43 reiveune    hello
07:26 cait        hi alex_a
07:26 alex_a      hi
07:18 cait        morgen :)
07:18 cait        hehe
07:18 magnuse     guten morgen cait! ;-)
07:15 cait        hm, seems the times I could sleep 12 hours and longer are over and I forgot to correct the clocks in here
06:52 mib_8pnrbv  ...
06:52 mib_8pnrbv  we need help on KOHA ISBD format
06:52 mib_8pnrbv  is there anypne
00:00 huginn      New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7138] Can't print basket group order pdf. <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7138>