Time Nick Message 00:00 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7138] Can't print basket group order pdf. <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7138> 06:52 mib_8pnrbv is there anypne 06:52 mib_8pnrbv we need help on KOHA ISBD format 06:52 mib_8pnrbv ... 07:15 cait hm, seems the times I could sleep 12 hours and longer are over and I forgot to correct the clocks in here 07:18 magnuse guten morgen cait! ;-) 07:18 cait hehe 07:18 cait morgen :) 07:26 alex_a hi 07:26 cait hi alex_a 07:43 reiveune hello 07:46 cait hi reiveune 07:46 reiveune hi cait 07:46 reiveune :) 07:50 marcelr morning koha 07:52 cait morning marcelr 07:53 marcelr hi cait 08:17 hdl hi all 08:24 cait hi hdl 08:25 magnuse bonjour france 08:46 hdl namaste India 08:54 mib_8pnrbv can anyone hlp us 08:54 mib_8pnrbv ? 09:53 cait @wunder Konstanz 09:53 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 8.2�C (10:49 AM CET on November 03, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Windchill: 8.0�C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010.0 hPa (Steady). 10:33 jcamins Hi cait. 10:33 wahanui Hi cait. are you looking at the rwc final? 10:33 cait hi jcamins 10:33 cait wahanui: it's over! 10:33 wahanui cait: excuse me? 11:57 chris_n @wunder 28334 11:57 huginn chris_n: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is 1.0�C (7:35 AM EDT on November 03, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 1.0�C. Pressure: 30.23 in 1024 hPa (Falling). 12:17 reiveune Excuse me, I'd like to try to reproduce the logo of Koha with Inkscape (with vector graphics, not bitmap). Someone could tell me what is the font used by the logo displayed on the OPAC (or two fonts used in the picture below : 12:17 reiveune http://lists.katipo.co.nz/pipermail/koha/attachments/20060711/9a1ce0be/koha-llibrary-system-logo-2005-0001.jpg 12:17 reiveune thanks 12:36 reiveune Owen gave me a very good answer, thanks 12:38 oleonard I'll say it here too if anyone is interested in the answer 12:38 oleonard There are a few logo files included in the Koha source. Look in misc/interface_customization 12:38 oleonard I don't know the font, but you'll find Inkscape-compatible files there with vector versions of the logo 12:51 oleonard Z39.50 search error "1: Permanent system error: Permanent system error: Bib-1" 12:51 oleonard On my server or theirs? If theirs, why the same error from 3 different sources? 12:51 * oleonard is suspicious 12:54 jwagner oleonard, what targets? Common ones like LC? 12:56 oleonard Ohiolink, Colorado Unified Catalog, Cuyahoga County Public Library 12:59 jwagner Nope, don't have those set up somewhere where I could test them.... 13:00 * oleonard wonders if we'll ever change the spelling of IndependantBranches 13:01 jwagner I found one of my sites with a connection to Cuyahoga, and it's searching fine 13:09 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7146] Update timestamps when deleting a biblio <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7146> 13:58 libsysguy morning #Koha 13:58 oleonard I *really* want an option in Bugzilla to "expand search to closed bugs" on the search results page 14:00 oleonard In other Bugzilla news coming from my brain, I'm very glad we're putting bug numbers in commits now. It's disconcerting now to see commits without them 14:00 oleonard commit 16fef8ba3e18c12347f35ff24a43c20d7ee53a8c added some error handling to cataloguing's z39.50 search but not to acquisitions' 14:01 libsysguy ok so am I crazy or have there been no pushes to master since 3.6 14:01 oleonard The release manager is at KohaCon 14:02 libsysguy no excuses :p 14:03 oleonard Spoken like someone who has never been release manager :P 14:03 libsysguy haha exactly 14:15 oleonard I really should count how many times I go to fix a bug and find another bug 14:37 cait reiveune: I think someone has done a svg already 14:37 cait reiveune: not sure who it was, perhaps mtj? 14:38 reiveune cait: thanks maybe you think at misc/interface_customization 14:38 cait oleonard: if you use ALL in front of your search term it will include closed bugs 14:39 cait reiveune: no, I think of something else 14:39 cait reiveune: I think there are no svgs in there? 14:39 oleonard Nice, thanks cait 14:39 cait you are welcome 14:40 reiveune cait: here we have a koha3-staff-client-logo.svg . I haven't open it but I think it's that I want 14:41 cait ah ok 14:41 reiveune :) 14:41 cait I have it on my screen now 14:41 cait have to think where I saw the other version, something in grey 14:41 reiveune me to, but I haven't install Inkscape for the moment 14:42 reiveune maybe only this app can open this file 14:42 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7148] Add some error handling to Acquisitions' Z39.50 search to match Cataloging's <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7148> 14:42 cait oleonard: you are my hero for working on acq :) 14:44 oleonard That one was just coincidence. I was working on Bug 7147 and realized acq's z3950 search acted differently 14:44 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7147 minor, P5, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Style Z39.50 search errors according to style patterns 14:44 * oleonard had no choice but to fix it!! 14:45 cait still 14:45 cait :) 14:45 cait you didn't have to work on fixing the ohter things ;) 14:47 cait now... someone removing this big spider from my kitchen sink would be nice 14:47 * cait shudders 14:50 oleonard Not the kind of bug-fixing you like cait? 14:50 cait no, not really 15:01 wizzyrea does the word "branch" look weird to anyone else when they see it a lot? 15:01 * chris_n hands cait bug spray 15:02 * oleonard takes back the bug spray and hands cait an empty jar and a postcard 15:03 oleonard wizzyrea: branch branch branch branch branch branch branch branch branch branch branch branch branch branch branch 15:03 * chris_n remembers a story about 5 pound spiders 15:03 * wizzyrea pulls cait off into the corner and whispers secrets and giggles while the boys take care of the spider 15:03 chris_n what'd you have for breakfast oleonard ;-) 15:04 cait hehe 15:04 * cait shares m&m s with wizzyrea 15:05 * wizzyrea giggles 15:05 chris_n now a spider that ate mesquites might be more welcome around here 15:05 chris_n oops 15:05 chris_n mosquitoes 15:06 wizzyrea thanks oleonard I think you fixed my weird perception of the word "branch" 15:06 chris_n spell checker strikes again 15:07 oleonard spiders that ate mesquite would cause no end of problems in the barbecue industry 15:11 * cait puts the bowl of m&ms in the middle of #koha 15:15 gmcharlt botsnacks *and* people-snacks! 15:15 gmcharlt cait++ 15:15 cait lol 15:15 cait wish there was really someone to eat them before i do 15:16 cait weak moment at the supermarket 15:16 trea :D 15:16 trea nom nom bnom 15:42 Oak hello miss cait :) 15:42 Oak kia ora #koha 15:42 cait hello mr oak 15:42 Oak :) 15:49 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7123] barcode should be one word <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7123> 15:50 * oleonard took some liberties with that one 15:55 * oleonard found a second chocolate fish but Chore Wars made me leave it behind 15:55 * oleonard would have given it away if he could 16:11 reiveune bye 16:12 cait oleonard: seems chocolate fish don't stack 16:54 bg hola koha peeps 16:56 oleonard Hi bg 16:56 cait hi bg :) 16:57 bg heya oleonard and cait 16:58 magnuse good afternoon, #koha 17:04 oleonard Testing a possible fix for Bug 7135: http://screencast.com/t/0gBcTT6OKQ 17:04 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7135 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , save button options 17:05 cait that looks really nice! 17:05 * oleonard hasn't tested browsers yet 17:06 cait I have alibrary reporting they have problems with the pull down buttons 17:06 cait for a blind staff member 17:06 cait have to look into that sometime :( 17:07 bg you should say I have to "feel" into that sometime 17:07 bg :( 17:07 bg oh screencast is slow from India 17:08 cait bg: I think worst case is I will make it single links for them, but a solution that can go into koha would be nice 17:08 cait not sure how to test that though, will need the library helping 17:08 bg yeah more ADA the better - is the truth 17:24 nengard got a question about the isbn match when adding records - is it matching on the 020 in the marc or on the isbn field in the biblioitems table? 17:25 cait in cataloging or in staged import? 17:26 cait the staged imports use the zebra indexes, so 020 from the marc 17:26 nengard let's say in both 17:26 cait I think the duplicate check in cataloging works different 17:26 cait rangi once read the code for me 17:26 nengard hmmmm 17:26 cait it also checked the biblio level item type and some other things 17:27 nengard okay - i might need sekjal to do some code reading for me to solve this one then 17:28 cait sorry, I don't have the document here where I put it down :( 17:33 collum ls 17:33 collum oops 17:37 cait hi collum 17:37 cait :) 17:37 collum hi cait :-) 17:53 cait hey - it's GBSD! 17:54 cait http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/2011-11-04_Global_bug_squashing_day 18:10 oleonard Oh no I should have submitted my patches a few hours later! 18:17 oleonard One of these days I hope we get a patch submitted or signed off on from someone actually on Kiritimati 18:18 magnuse hehe, that would be cool 18:18 * oleonard puts that on his list for when he's a fabulously wealthy wandering Koha dev 18:19 magnuse yay 18:21 cait :) 18:22 magnuse wandering koha dev sounds cool! 18:22 * oleonard should get into the business of installing Koha for eccentric billionaires. 18:22 libsysguy isn't that druthb? 18:23 cait hm, no 18:23 cait sounds more like jared 18:23 libsysguy oh haha 18:23 cait jcamins_away jcamins_away jcamins_away 18:23 * libsysguy should go nomad like jcamins 18:23 magnuse druthb has the "wandering" part down, at least ;-) 18:23 cait no, the nomad is druthb 18:23 magnuse what she said 18:24 libsysguy haha so can we have the best of both 18:24 libsysguy wandering devel for excentric millionaires 18:24 magnuse yay! 18:24 magnuse now we're talking 18:24 cait lol 18:24 * cait hands libsysguy and magnuse the last m&ms 18:24 cait take them away from me 18:24 cait eat them! 18:25 magnuse yum, thanks! 18:25 magnuse will do! 18:25 * libsysguy is already chowing down on some subway cookies :) 18:25 * libsysguy takes m&m's anyway 18:25 libsysguy nom nom nom 18:29 magnuse is chowing "Dumle", but that's probably a Norwegian specialty? chocolate-covered, soft caramels... 18:29 * magnuse shares some Dumle with #koha 18:29 cait ooh yummy 18:30 rangi morning 18:30 wizzyrea mornin :) 18:32 magnuse kia ora rangi 18:34 * oleonard is still getting used to seeing signoffs from rangi 18:35 rangi heh 18:35 rangi I can do that again now 18:35 magnuse rangi: since paul_p isn't here at the moment, is there some kind of kleenup after 3.6.0 that would be a good activity for gbsd (which is in progress as we speak...)? 18:36 cait hi rangi :) 18:36 magnuse like closing bugs or marking resolved or something 18:36 rangi exactly that 18:36 magnuse marking resolved *and* closing? 18:37 magnuse or just marking resolved fixed and then you do the closing? 18:38 rangi resolved fixed 18:38 rangi and paul does the closing 18:38 magnuse ah, ok cool 18:39 rangi im done, done I say 18:39 nengard does the onloan field in the items table actually get populated properly? 18:39 rangi now I just get to do what I want :) 18:39 magnuse yay! 18:39 nengard rangi you want to sign off on my db documentation patches :) I know you do!! :) 18:39 rangi maybe after work :? 18:40 rangi :) even 18:40 magnuse rangi: i just thought i remembered you said you had a list of bugs you would close when 3.6.0 was out the door... 18:40 rangi thats all on the releasemanagement wiki 18:41 rangi I probably did say that 18:41 rangi not gonna tho 18:41 rangi :? 18:41 rangi hmm 18:41 rangi my shift key on the phone is being weird 18:44 magnuse ok, just wondering ;-) 18:47 rangi @wunder Wellington nz 18:47 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 13.0�C (7:00 AM NZDT on November 04, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 5.0�C. Pressure: 29.53 in 1000 hPa (Steady). 19:00 oleonard Not a peep from KohaCon today? 19:00 rangi my stop brb 19:01 cait oleonard: they were on the trip to mumbai today 19:07 magnuse time to call it a day - have fun, #koha! 19:08 cait bye magnuse 19:10 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7135] save button options <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7135> 19:11 oleonard ^ Looking for testers wrt browser compatibility 19:18 nengard cait, i'm trying to edit a report of yours 19:18 cait :) 19:18 nengard http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/SQL_Reports_Library#Patrons_w.2F_Fines 19:18 nengard I'm trying to limit it to patrons who are not expired 19:19 nengard my first attempt didn't work 19:19 cait ah ok 19:19 cait let me check 19:20 nengard figured it out!! 19:20 nengard I was doing something silly :) 19:20 nengard sorry about that 19:22 cait no problem :) 19:29 rangi back 19:31 oleonard wizzyrea: Do you have EnhancedMessagingPreferences enabled in your system? 19:31 wizzyrea yep 19:32 oleonard Anything in particular you found you needed to customize in the messages? 19:33 oleonard I notice the "Advance Notice of Item Due" notice says "due soon." No due date? 19:33 oleonard I guess there are issues with what information is available to various notices. 19:34 cait oleonard: I think there were some date formatting problems too 19:34 cait but some of them are working better now 21:19 wizzyrea @later tell oleonard "due soon" has always annoyed me personally - I wish it would just tell me when it's due. 21:19 huginn wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. 21:22 rangi due in 2913 seconds! 21:22 wizzyrea hehe 21:33 wizzyrea I guess it's not safe to assume that you would always want to update the patron category when you update a kid to an adult 21:34 rangi hmm? 21:34 cait how else would you update? 21:34 wizzyrea well there are types and there are categories 21:34 wizzyrea C, A for types 21:34 wizzyrea arbitrary categories 21:34 cait ok 21:34 cait I think I would assume you will always want to go from a c to a a category 21:35 wizzyrea they're independent 21:35 * cait can't follow 21:35 cait if you do it now in staff 21:35 cait hit the update button 21:35 wizzyrea so you've got the hardcoded types, right? 21:35 cait it will offer you all a categories 21:35 cait to choose one from, right? 21:35 wizzyrea this isn't in the web interface 21:36 cait I know 21:36 wizzyrea oh 21:36 wizzyrea so yea, ok... I think I'm right in the way I did it 21:36 cait I think updating the type does not make much sense 21:37 cait but updating the patron category 21:37 wizzyrea I was worried that it would be bad to assume that one wanted to update the type without updating the category 21:37 cait hm 21:37 wizzyrea I suppose you could have a library where they had a single category and the usual multiple types, but it's not terribly likely 21:37 cait I think you wil always want to update the category and leave the configuration for categories and types alone 21:37 wizzyrea well and geez 21:38 rangi ? 21:38 cait now you confused me liz :( 21:38 wizzyrea never mind. 21:38 wizzyrea :) 21:38 wizzyrea I think it's ok 21:38 cait ok 21:38 wizzyrea this is what I came up with: http://pastebin.com/qjqEUrVk 21:39 wizzyrea because the existing j2a didn't deal with the categories 21:39 wizzyrea only the type 21:39 wizzyrea and was thus worthless 21:40 wizzyrea well, less worthful 21:40 rangi *nod* 21:40 rangi you need a license statement and copyright header fwiw :-) but full marks for the POD 21:41 rangi you get +10 more if you switch on use warnings 21:41 * wizzyrea can do both of those 21:41 rangi yay :) 21:42 wizzyrea that doesn't have the test mode bit that I want to put in 21:42 * rangi looks at bug 7077 21:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7077 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Add system pref to control behavior of submitting empty barcode field on circulation page 21:42 rangi ahh test modes are always awesome 21:46 rangi oh and this 21:46 wahanui and this is probably the most crowded syspref tab 21:46 rangi git config --global alias.sh 'show --word-diff=color' 21:46 rangi then type git sh 21:47 cait test modes? :) 21:47 wizzyrea the "show me what would happen if I ran this" mode 21:47 cait ah 21:47 wizzyrea "but don't actually do it" 21:47 cait yes 21:47 cait and a mail with updated patrons :) 21:47 wizzyrea I actually thought of that >.> 21:47 wizzyrea it was on my list of things that would be nice to have 21:47 rangi owen gets back functionality we had in 1.2 but that went missing 21:48 rangi oleonard++ 21:48 * rangi tests more 21:49 cait oleonard++ indeed 21:49 cait he has been busy in acq too :) 21:49 rangi git config --global alias.lg "log --graph --pretty=format:'%Cred%h%Creset -%C(yellow)%d%Creset %s %Cgreen(%cr) %C(bold blue)<%an>%Creset' --abbrev-commit --date=relative" 21:49 rangi checkt that out 21:50 rangi try a git lg 21:50 cait the git thing is nice 21:50 cait sh is for? 21:50 rangi show 21:50 rhcl Well, LC says MARC and Z39-2 are dead? 21:50 cait ah k 21:51 rangi LoC says lots of things 21:51 rangi :) 21:51 rangi but id hope that this will at least hasten their demise 21:54 rhcl demise of LC? 21:55 rangi MARC 21:55 rangi its been dead for 30 years 21:55 rhcl oh 21:55 rangi doesnt stop ppl using it ;-) 21:57 talljoy speaking of MARC. 21:57 * talljoy ducks 21:57 talljoy i'm looking for authority records in the staff client and none are appearing like expected even after authorities are reindexed 21:58 cait how did you import them? an dhow are they not appearing as expected? 21:58 rangi if you change it search headings do they? 21:59 talljoy they appear when i click on 'search main heading' but not if i search on the default "search authorities' 21:59 talljoy how did i import....let me think....i believe it was through the command line. 21:59 rangi yeah, id noticed that before talljoy 21:59 rangi i think its a bug 22:00 rangi something changed recent ish 22:00 talljoy phew. it's not me then. 22:00 cait hmmm 22:00 cait I tested something about authority searching and the default thing 22:00 cait perhaps I can find the bug 22:04 cait ah, I was thinking about bug 5910 22:04 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5910 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Authorities : allow users to search on all auth types 22:05 talljoy ok. i need to see what version of koha i am looking at here. 22:08 talljoy authorities are going to be the death of me. 22:09 cait talljoy: this bug is not in koha - so perhaps only confusing 22:11 talljoy i get that 'search main heading' will pull up my personal name authority records, but why does the 'search authorities' option return no results. 22:11 talljoy that seems bug-like 22:12 rangi yes, yes it does 22:14 talljoy lol. I guess I'll enter a bug, but I don't want any closer association with MARC authority records. 22:36 rangi sup trea 22:36 trea hi rangi 22:37 trea how's welly today? 22:37 rangi @wunder wellington nz 22:37 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 15.0�C (11:00 AM NZDT on November 04, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Pressure: 29.53 in 1000 hPa (Falling). 22:37 rangi and its more like 23 in here 22:37 rangi cos the aircon isnt working 22:40 ibeardslee rangi: on L7? 22:40 rangi yeah 22:40 ibeardslee does Pauline know? 22:40 rangi yes 22:40 ibeardslee cool .. .. .. ;) 22:40 rangi apparently ppl are coming to look 22:53 cait bye #koha :) 22:53 rangi cya cait 23:18 rangi wizzyrea: you got a sec? 23:19 rangi bug 7128 ... you might like to look at my follow up on there for gbsd :) 23:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7128 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, NEW , logged in and logged out states of opac-main.tt are hard to style