Time Nick Message 23:18 eythian mostly I want it to be able to work out what instances should be active, and test them all, so that you don't have to reconfigure nagios each time you add or remove a koha instance. 23:18 Judit other than testing 23:18 Judit anything we can help with? 23:17 Judit okay 23:17 eythian I plan to make them interact smartly with the packages at some stage, that's why I haven't released them properly yet 23:17 eythian add the catalyst repo to your git, and checkout the 'nagios' branch from it. 23:16 eythian http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?p=koha.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/nagios 23:16 Judit hm 23:16 eythian they're not as complete as I want, but you're welcome to use them 23:15 eythian Judit: yeah, I have some 23:15 Judit eythian, i have heard there are some nagios plugins for koha cooking somewhere. any update or eta you know of? 23:15 jcamins It does indeed. 23:15 eythian looks like it does, from the examples 23:14 eythian jcamins: this also applies when you don't have the host item, just the article itself? 23:13 eythian jcamins: cheers 23:13 jcamins ^^ eythian 23:13 huginn jcamins: Information concerning the host item for the constituent unit described in the record (vertical relationship). In the case of host items that are serial or multi-volume in nature, information in subfields $g and $q is necessary to point to the exact location of the component part within the bibliographic item. (Repeatable) [b,d,g,h,i,k,m,n,o,p,q,r,s,t,u,w,x,y,z,3,6,7,8] 23:13 jcamins @marc 773 23:13 eythian any cataloguers around? Say I have an article from a magazine or similar (but not the whole magazine), where in MARC would I put the name of that source. 23:03 rangi http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd264.html 23:03 eythian it was added at least 2 weeks ago! 23:02 eythian you are so out of date 23:02 huginn eythian: unknown tag 264 23:02 eythian @marc 264 22:55 rangi ahh cool 22:55 liw for a business trip 22:54 rangi you're in montreal? 22:54 liw +19 in Montreal, but the sun already set 22:54 eythian metservice says 15, but it's still raining. 22:54 eythian according to my computer 22:54 eythian it's apparently 18�C here 22:53 Judit sunny! 22:51 rangi hows things? 22:51 trea hi rangi 22:51 rangi hi liw, trea and Judit 22:49 eythian hi liw, Judit. 22:49 Judit hullo 22:49 liw eythian++ 22:45 rangi packages++ 22:33 eythian sweet 22:32 muddle Installation complete, seems to run fine - thank you! 22:28 muddle That is certainly true. 22:27 eythian (browsing is kinda meaningless when there's 50,000 records) 22:27 eythian there's no browsing per se, typically the search interface is used. 22:26 muddle think = thing 22:26 muddle One more think - if I may - is there some kind of "browse mode" inside the staff interface for the titles I entered? 22:25 muddle That's what I was hoping. 22:25 eythian (and if they don't, file a bug :) 22:25 eythian ah right. Hopefully the packages will do all that magically for you. 22:24 muddle Again, thanks. Trying to get a fresh install as I was having some problems with the preconfigured Koha Debian VM I tested (it would not properly update the Zebra Index). 22:22 eythian It ought to be though 22:22 eythian I'm not sure. Possibly not. 22:22 eythian sweet 22:22 muddle Is that documented somewhere? 22:22 muddle Got it, thanks! Seems to work. 22:21 eythian (ndz in your case I suspect) 22:21 eythian where abc is what you put on koha-create 22:20 muddle Ah, ok. I'll check. 22:20 eythian like, 'koha_abc' 22:20 rangi it will be soomethin like koha_abc 22:20 eythian use the name that's in the file 22:20 rangi its very unlikely to be kohauser 22:20 eythian don't use "kohauser" 22:20 rangi not the zebrauser name 22:20 rangi down the bottom 22:20 muddle Yep, exactly what I did. 22:20 eythian the staff interface 22:20 eythian err yes 22:20 rangi :) 22:20 muddle I tried to login using "kohauser" and the password inside the XML file. 22:20 rangi the staff interface that is 22:20 eythian If you go to the opac interface, it should ask you to use the details in koha-conf.xml to log in, and it'll set up the database for you. 22:19 eythian that's all good. 22:19 muddle I ran: "koha-create --create-db abc" 22:19 eythian OK, that's kind of normal the first time. 22:18 muddle http://mibpaste.com/ISyeKQ 22:18 eythian also, what was your koha-create command line? 22:17 muddle Sure. 22:17 eythian can you provide an example? 22:17 muddle Install seems fine, I created a site using "koha-create" - but can't login using the credetials inside my new "koha-conf.xml". Error log shows a lot of SQL errors. 22:16 eythian cool 22:15 muddle Hi there! I'm fairly new to Koha and trying my first setup on Debian Squeeze using the "koha-common" package. 22:14 cait night all 21:40 eythian http://grooveshark.com/#/album/Princess+Ghibli/6050299 <-- music for today 21:39 melia hehe 21:39 eythian what sort of Georgian are you? 21:36 melia gross 21:35 eythian http://www.bigtexan.com/free72.html <-- hungry? 20:56 rangi yeah i think thats it 20:55 rangi ahh 20:55 rangi |html i think 20:54 cait | url? 20:52 rangi [% z3950_search_param.encvalue %] 20:48 rangi (first one is obv the broken one) 20:48 wizzyrea oyyy 20:47 rangi strQuery += "&" + "title" + "=" + "kw%2Cwrdl%3A%20%22bear%22"; 20:46 rangi strQuery += "&" + "title" + "=" + "kw%2Cwrdl%3A%20"bear""; 20:46 rangi yep broken js 20:44 rangi yeah its gotta be some js/css thing 20:44 wizzyrea oh I see 20:44 rangi with the highlight/unhilight etc 20:43 rangi notice its not showing the bar at all 20:43 rangi http://demo-intra.mykoha.co.nz/cgi-bin/koha/catalogue/search.pl?q=%22bear%22 20:42 rangi ah ha! 20:42 wizzyrea criminy. 20:42 wizzyrea lol or not. 20:42 rangi so there must be something that turns them on 20:41 rangi in the working one! 20:41 rangi <input type="checkbox" class="selection" id="bib2475" name="biblionumber" value="2475" style="display:none" /> 20:41 wizzyrea well display none would def do it 20:41 rangi in the not working one 20:41 rangi <input type="checkbox" class="selection" id="bib2488" name="biblionumber" value="2488" style="display:none" /> 20:40 wizzyrea (unintentionally ^.^_ 20:40 rangi i wouldnt have thought so 20:40 wizzyrea ifxed is fixed 20:40 wizzyrea something in the last week that ifxed it? 20:40 wizzyrea hrm 20:39 rangi weird 20:39 rangi yeah its ok on my master one 20:39 wizzyrea (that's where the grabs came from) 20:39 wizzyrea i was looking at our production server, which is master up to about a week ago 20:39 * rangi updates his master one 20:39 rangi its what its there for 20:38 * wizzyrea took the liberty 20:38 wizzyrea naw it's empty 20:38 rangi hmm i wouldnt think so 20:38 wizzyrea prolly not it's a demo 20:38 rangi thats 3.4.4 20:38 wizzyrea something anything in intranetuserjs? 20:37 wizzyrea o lookie there 20:37 rangi staff1 20:37 rangi staff 20:37 rangi http://demo-intra.mykoha.co.nz/cgi-bin/koha/catalogue/search.pl?q=%22bear%22 20:37 wizzyrea keke 20:37 rangi it works ok on one koha, not on the other! 20:37 rangi oh i lie 20:36 rangi no problemo 20:35 wizzyrea ty for double checking that 20:35 wizzyrea now 20:35 rangi :) 20:35 wizzyrea for nwo 20:35 wizzyrea so just leave that one 20:35 wizzyrea i will look 20:35 wizzyrea perhaps we have something funny in our js 20:35 wizzyrea that's telling 20:35 wizzyrea ok 20:35 rangi at least i have checkboxes showing fine 20:35 wizzyrea no, I don't think that's true 20:35 rangi maybe 20:34 wizzyrea oooo 20:34 rangi ie if you dont get back a title that contains the "" its fine 20:34 rangi its only if you get a result 20:34 * wizzyrea channels her three year old "and I NEED them!" 20:34 wahanui hmmm... interesting is sometimes bad or sometimes good 20:34 rangi interesting 20:33 wizzyrea my computer works just fine with that many, ty 20:33 wizzyrea lulz 20:33 rangi and close some tabs sheesh 20:33 * rangi looks 20:33 rangi a quick view source would tell ya 20:32 wizzyrea http://screencast.com/t/HfAi35OzA with quotes http://screencast.com/t/sHen9LQKE without quotes 20:32 rangi yup 20:31 wizzyrea i'm workin on something else rather dire or I"d poke at it 20:31 wizzyrea must be 20:31 rangi unescaped "" in the html? 20:30 wizzyrea just the tickboxes are missing 20:30 wizzyrea the search works 20:29 wizzyrea ooold 20:29 wizzyrea that's ooole 20:29 wizzyrea right I knew about the parens 20:29 cait wizzyrea: try a search for 5) - doesn't work too 20:29 wizzyrea "m" is for malice or "bear" or whatever 20:29 wizzyrea search for a book 20:28 wizzyrea the tickboxes are gone 20:28 wizzyrea with quotes in it 20:28 wizzyrea if you do a search in the staff client 20:28 wizzyrea oh that's funny 20:26 nengard ttyl 20:26 nengard k logging off for a bit 20:22 rangi cool 20:22 nengard 2 unused (that i know of) and 2 i was unsure of 20:22 nengard 4 trouble fields 20:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6716 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, ASSIGNED , Database Documentation 20:22 nengard categories table documented and attached to bug 6716 20:19 rangi that'd do it 20:19 rangi :) 20:19 nengard :) 20:19 nengard on the screen 20:19 nengard table was wrapping 20:19 rangi hmm i wonder where that came from 20:19 nengard nevermind 20:18 nengard rangi i actually have data in that field in my db 20:17 rangi so i think its a candidate to be removed 20:17 rangi i can find no reference to it in the code anywhere 20:15 rangi finetype is not used 20:15 cait f and fu and all those? 20:14 rangi s 20:14 * rangi look 20:14 nengard db documentation help - in the categories table - what is the fine type and what do the codes mean? 20:00 rangi night mangus 19:59 * magnuse nids #koha a good night 19:58 magnuse sounds useful! 19:56 rangi https://metacpan.org/module/Data::Show 19:55 magnuse too true! 19:52 rangi yep there sure are 19:51 jcamins If only I had a lot more time than I do... there are so many interesting projects out there. 19:49 magnuse in the end i exported the records and patrons just moved them over... 19:49 magnuse hey, i want bathroom stuff called koha! 19:48 rangi it takes some effort 19:48 rangi yeah, ive done a few 19:48 magnuse i had the pleasure of upgrading a 2.2.9 about a year ago... 19:48 oleonard http://www.methven.com/nz/ranges/koha/ 19:48 oleonard Yeah, 2.x 19:48 jcamins Woah! I don't think I ever saw it looking like that! 19:48 magnuse that's 2.x, right? 19:47 cait yet... 19:46 rangi heh yes 19:45 oleonard-away Someone needs some new screenshots: http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Programming/Libraries/Koha-16223.shtml 19:41 jcamins There's also the Linux Kiosk page on the wiki. 19:40 rangi ideally one that installs using th packages to make upgrading easy would be ideal 19:40 rangi could ask amit or savitra :) 19:40 rangi http://www.osslabs.biz/koha/livecd 19:39 rangi :) 19:39 * jcamins translates: no, I thought you were doing that, jcamins. ;) 19:38 rangi what is missing is one that uses the packages 19:38 rangi at least 5 19:37 rangi oh theres a bunch of them 19:36 jcamins Does anyone know who might have done that, and where whatever scripts are necessary for that might be? 19:36 jcamins Did I hear about someone making a bootable Koha demo CD? 19:32 rangi hmm i can try to find an old screenshot 19:31 * oleonard-away should probably remember himself 19:31 oleonard-away rangi: Do you remember how it used to do it? 19:28 jcamins Thanks. 19:28 jcamins Then I'd just as soon not redo it. 19:28 rangi up to you, i think either way is ok 19:28 rangi hmmmm 19:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6997 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, jcamins, NEW , koha-remove leaves system in inconsistent state if there is an error 19:28 jcamins_away rangi: worth redoing the patch for bug 6997 to use rm -f instead of [ -f $FILE ] && rm $FILE? 19:27 rangi cool 19:27 jcamins_away rangi: for the record, your proposal to add features makes sense to me. 19:17 rangi back 19:12 rangi bbiab 19:11 rangi ok my stop 19:11 magnuse wow 19:11 rangi yeah was this year magnuse 19:11 rangi koha comes round in a circle 19:11 rangi and the homeorholding syspref controlled what showed then that got change too 19:11 magnuse doesn't seem long ago that we passed 6000? 19:10 magnuse hm, i'm imagining a graph with years or months on the x axis and number of bugs reported on the y axis... 19:10 rangi got taken off 19:10 rangi lol it used to do that 19:09 rangi Hehe 19:09 magnuse yay! 19:09 nengard and it wasn't a bug 19:09 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7000 enhancement, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW , show home and holding branch on staff search results 19:09 nengard woo hoo I reported bug 7000 :) 19:08 magnuse ah yes, thanks nengard 19:06 nengard but you have to be on facebook to see it 19:06 nengard http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150217879571765&set=o.277830850701&type=1 19:06 nengard found it 19:03 rangi I filled one with mango slushy on the last day :) 19:03 rangi ah yeah 19:03 nengard i need to find it 19:03 nengard there was a great one with a kid using it as a sippy cup 19:02 rangi thanks 19:02 nengard http://www.flickr.com/photos/nengard/5868789934/in/set-72157627041246884 19:00 rangi thanks nengard 19:00 rangi thats them 19:00 nengard let me find it 19:00 nengard rangi i do 18:59 cait the violet things from ala? 18:59 cait oh a lot of them on flickr :) 18:59 rangi the whole booth was very cool 18:57 rangi hmm im sure nengard has a photo of them? 18:57 magnuse some kind of weird glass for beer, according to google image search? 18:56 magnuse halfyard?!? 18:56 magnuse and some lucky folks in canada will have the pleasure real soon... 18:56 rangi ppl still ask me 'is that a bong' about they ByWater halfyard on my desk 18:52 rangi yeah june was awesome 18:52 nengard rangi we miss you too!! but i was lucky and saw you in June :) 18:51 nengard ditto :) 18:51 magnuse ooh, yes please ;-) 18:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5549 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED , Hourly Loans 18:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5528 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, tajoli, ASSIGNED , Analytical records support 18:51 magnuse bug 5528, bug 5549 18:51 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded. 18:51 rangi @later tell sekjal 5528 and 5549 are still fair game if we can get them tested before release so 12 days 18:49 rangi yep 18:49 magnuse and 3.2 was released on the 22nd! 18:49 magnuse hehe, likewise! 18:49 magnuse i left on the 19th of october 18:48 rangi no wonder I miss u guys 18:48 rangi wow that long ago 18:48 magnuse having said that, there is snow on the peaks now, down to about 500 meter above sea level 18:48 magnuse which is almost a year ago now 18:48 magnuse last year the first snow came while i was in nz 18:47 magnuse nah, could have been worse 18:47 nengard chilly 18:47 nengard wow 18:47 rangi heh 18:46 magnuse summer is but a faint memory... 18:46 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 8.0�C (8:20 PM CEST on October 10, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Windchill: 6.0�C. Pressure: 29.06 in 984 hPa (Steady). 18:46 magnuse @wunder boo 18:42 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 14.3�C (8:40 PM CEST on October 10, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 30.23 in 1023.6 hPa (Steady). 18:42 cait @wunder Konstanz 18:42 nengard it's like summer again 18:42 nengard warmer here :) 18:42 huginn nengard: The current temperature in Maple Point, Langhorne, Pennsylvania is 26.1�C (2:40 PM EDT on October 10, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: 15.0�C. Pressure: 30.17 in 1021.6 hPa (Steady). 18:42 nengard @wunder 19030 18:42 rangi warm 18:41 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 15.0�C (7:00 AM NZDT on October 11, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady). 18:41 rangi @wunder wellington nz 18:40 rangi who won the pool ( or was it snooker?) 18:40 libsysguy morning rangi 18:40 cait morning rangi 18:39 rangi morning 18:34 libsysguy slef thats awesome 18:33 libsysguy haha 18:33 slef biab 18:33 slef libsysguy: no, I mean for the vacuum 18:32 libsysguy one resuly 18:32 libsysguy and I am there 18:32 libsysguy anyway...im assuming you mean from the opac slef 18:32 libsysguy sorry got kicked 18:31 slef libsysguy: search for "desktop henry". 18:29 libsysguy I think margo is running something closer to 3.4 18:29 libsysguy didn't work in ff 18:27 libsysguy did you? 18:27 libsysguy i don't get a warning about it in chrome 18:27 libsysguy let me check 18:27 wahanui interesting is probably good 18:27 libsysguy interesting 18:15 nengard cause in chrome my pop up was blocked 18:14 nengard the one with the titles you're adding to the list? 18:14 nengard libsysguy are you getting the pop up? 18:13 nengard off to try chrome 18:13 nengard i tried in ff7 18:13 nengard heh 18:09 libsysguy not surprising...but it didn't work there either lol 18:09 libsysguy not the browser...i just tried in IE9 18:07 libsysguy chrome V 15.0.874 18:07 * nengard is grasping at straws 18:06 nengard browser version? 18:06 libsysguy just not though the add to list form 18:06 libsysguy i can add them one at a time with the save to list link in the item 18:05 libsysguy no just searching for cats 18:03 nengard any strange characters in the titles you're adding to the list? 18:03 nengard libsysguy it's working for me :( 18:02 libsysguy I don't think it is an issue in master but I just can't identify where im having an issue 18:02 libsysguy gracias nengard 18:02 nengard going to test 18:02 libsysguy opac master merged with hourly 18:02 libsysguy I was going to ask sekjal about notices and my patch that paul failed :-\ 18:02 nengard and what version? 18:02 nengard opac or staff client? 18:01 libsysguy i guess i could throw out both...when i do the multiple selection add for lists they don't save 18:01 nengard if not they should :) 18:01 libsysguy my problem with the list or my question for sekjal? 18:01 nengard libsysguy i think 'think geek' has a keyboard vacuum :) 17:56 bg libsysguy: he's taking a holiday today 17:56 cait libsysguy: what's your problem? 17:56 libsysguy sekjal you around? 17:40 libsysguy so I am wondering if I am justing missing something 17:40 libsysguy and I have looked in the logs and I don't see anything 17:40 libsysguy so I am trying to trouble shoot an issue that I am having with the lists 17:34 libsysguy yes :) 17:33 cait for your keyboard? 17:26 * libsysguy considers investing in a vaccume cleaner 17:26 libsysguy i am at my keyboard for lunch...maybe thats why there are so many crumbs 17:26 wizzyrea afk, lunch. 17:26 wizzyrea hi libsysguy 17:21 libsysguy hi cait 17:20 libsysguy long time no see everybody 17:19 cait hi :) 17:19 * libsysguy waives 17:19 * slef waves at cait and goes to get a drink 17:17 * cait waves 16:44 slef it's unjust and isn't anti-spam anyway 16:40 slef grrrrrr why do library consultants defend the use of recaptcha, including the disabled=subhuman text? 16:23 ropuch_ Which still is quite mysterious 16:21 ropuch_ slef: think I got it: error was caused by non standard character in patron's category description 16:06 slef oleonard-away: I suspect I upset him so I felt I should try to clear it up. 16:06 nengard should it be AND or OR or both ? 16:06 hdl nengard: yes... what do you want as a feedback ? 16:05 nengard hdl you mean on that bug report? just how do people want it to work 16:05 oleonard-away slef: Thank you for your answer on the list about why changing the subject line is potentially confusing. Well put. 16:04 hdl nengard: what kind of feedback do you want ? 15:58 ropuch slef: there's no problem after truncating koha database, so the actual members data are causing this 15:50 reiveune bye 15:37 slef you need to spot a pattern in what's triggering this :( 15:37 ropuch memeberentry.pl and moremeber.pl don't have problem to display the same header-inc properly 15:33 ropuch Me too 15:33 slef hrm. I'm stumped. :( 15:32 ropuch Yes 15:32 slef are you sure, even 15:32 slef ropuch: are you user the polish letters are utf-8 and not latin-2 (or whichever it is) 15:31 slef ropuch: my suspicion would be something in the member data triggering a browser bug, if you can find a pattern in which pages are wrong 15:31 ropuch slef: I have tyoped some polish letters in english header-inc and it's look teh same: a mess in members-home.pl/member.pl, looks fine when on some other page 15:29 ropuch slef: I can rule out wrong translation issue for sure 15:22 ropuch Bye kf [; 15:22 kf bye all :) 15:22 kf time to leave 15:21 ropuch yup 15:21 slef both of them? Straaaange :( 15:20 ropuch slef: it's recognized as utf8 15:19 slef what encodings does Tools: Page Info think a fine and a messed-up page has? 15:16 ropuch The very same header-inc is just fine on other pages 15:16 ropuch What can be a cause of displaying content of header-inc template with messed encoding? Happening when I'm browsing members-home.pl/member.pl pages 14:51 wizzyrea hi kf 14:51 Oak hey 14:51 kf hi wizzyrea :) 14:50 kf hi Oak :) 14:41 Oak about 8 pm here... so just sitting 14:39 Oak i'm good 14:39 wizzyrea doin ok, and you? 14:39 Oak hello wizzyrea :) how are you 14:39 Oak hello kf :) 14:39 wizzyrea hi Oak 14:39 Oak kia ora #koha 14:38 wizzyrea that seems sensible. 14:36 nengard and then we can ask for an enhancement 14:36 nengard i guess if it was OR originally it should work that way 14:36 nengard who was the original developer? i'm wondering how they intended it to work 14:36 nengard hmmm 14:34 wizzyrea (easier said than done, of course) 14:34 wizzyrea all you gotta do is accommodate it without breaking it for everyone else. 14:34 * wizzyrea doesn't think one ever needs justification for a quote 123 problem 14:33 jcamins (for justification, I refer you to quote 123 again:) 14:33 wizzyrea (kinky) 14:33 wizzyrea see 14:33 jcamins Simultaneously. 14:33 * jcamins wants to do it both ways. 14:33 wizzyrea someone's gonna want to do it either way 14:32 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) 14:32 wizzyrea @quote get 123 14:32 wizzyrea because it's a 14:32 wizzyrea you can't specify either 'and' or 'or' 14:32 wizzyrea heh. 14:27 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6488 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, srdjan, ASSIGNED , opachiddenitems not working in master 14:27 nengard community we need feedback on bug 6488 13:02 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5616] UTF-8 problem in Card View <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5616> 12:46 * kf sends cookies and water 12:45 kf oh 12:45 * oleonard is about to be trapped in an all-day staff meeting 12:42 Danielle You have good company. :-\ 12:40 nengard okay i'm losing it 12:39 nengard hang on 12:39 nengard I looked at it like 4 times and could have sworn it was out of order :) 12:39 nengard that my brain isn't working on this monday morning :) 12:39 oleonard nengard, what am I missing? http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=5824 12:34 magnuse jcamins: famous last words ;-) but yes, i see what you mean 12:28 jcamins The packaging things are small, so maintaining them won't be any challenge at all. 12:25 * jcamins doesn't particularly care if these changes get into 3.6, to be honest. He'll be running a custom branch regardless. 12:25 jcamins No worries. 12:23 magnuse cool, trouble is i'm running low on time, so i can't promise anything this week 12:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6913 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, NEW , Improving koha-list and koha-create 12:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6997 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, jcamins, NEW , koha-remove leaves system in inconsistent state if there is an error 12:18 jcamins magnuse: I have a couple of patches you might be interested in signing off on. Bug 6997, and bug 6913. 12:18 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6997] koha-remove leaves system in inconsistent state if there is an error <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6997> 12:18 magnuse hiya jcamins 12:17 kf morning jared :) 12:17 jcamins Good morning, #koha 12:13 * kf nods 12:12 magnuse the help pages could be docbook separate from the manual 12:12 kf magnuse: perhaps we need somethine else 12:12 kf magnuse: I think the manual would have to follow the pages quite strcitly then 12:11 magnuse hiya Amit_Gupta 12:11 Amit_Gupta heya magnuse 12:09 magnuse maybe there are better ways to handle the translations of help pages than through .po files? is it just copied from the manual? maybe it would be better to translate the original docbook xml? 12:03 kf hi asaurat :) 11:45 kf fredericd: goal should be to keep them together, all strings for one page or help file 11:45 kf fredericd: it's very hard because things are out of context too 11:44 kf fredericd: I agree 11:38 fredericd hello ropuch 11:37 ropuch Hi kf, hello fredericd 11:32 fredericd it's easy for nicole to cut and past its manual from docbook to templates. But it's a huge work for translator in that format (.po files) 11:31 kf afk for 5 min 11:31 kf and less ... split up 11:31 kf perhaps they could be a separate po file 11:31 fredericd We should keep help translation outside the software (my opinion) 11:31 kf it's less than I expected actually 11:31 kf almost all of them 11:31 kf nicole updated the help files 11:30 fredericd Check that help text you have already translated are not to be translated again 11:30 fredericd There are a lot of new strings 11:30 fredericd ok 11:28 kf fredericd: what I meant was: can submit suggestions and submit strings, but review tab is not loading 11:22 kf having problems loading the 'review' tab 11:21 kf I can submit suggestions, that looks good 11:21 kf ? 11:21 kf or only at permissionsß 11:21 kf tonight ok? 11:21 kf fredericd: sorry, not at the moment 11:10 fredericd kf: Could you take a look on 3.6 German files I've just uploaded to pootle? 10:28 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6996] Encoding problem in opac-showmarc <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6996> 10:12 jenkins_koha Chris Cormack: Fixing line endings 10:12 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #469: SUCCESS in 48 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/469/ 09:24 jenkins_koha Starting build 469 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 09:23 hdl hi all 09:22 hdl Amit_Gupta: ? 09:16 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Fixing line endings <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fd052de5e179a26f9fec32141cc6d0f07b31ad9d> 08:56 kf try hdl to make it show up for him :) 08:54 Amit_Gupta henri around? 08:50 magnuse but i'm pretty sure the package build was complaining about what i used... i'll try again 08:49 magnuse ah, thanks rangi 08:49 magnuse hiya kf 08:49 rangi libcgi-session-driver-memcached-perl 08:48 rangi driver 08:48 rangi missing a word 08:48 kf morning magnuse 08:47 magnuse hm, "sudo apt-get install libcgi-session-memcached-perl" doesn't seem to work, after i have added the koha repo to sources and done "apt-get update"? 08:47 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 8.0�C (10:20 AM CEST on October 10, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Windchill: 5.0�C. Pressure: 29.06 in 984 hPa (Steady). 08:47 magnuse @wunder boo 08:37 rangi hi hdl 08:33 hdl hi kf 08:33 kf good morning hdl 08:26 kf oh, quite a difference 08:26 huginn kf: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 20.0�C (10:00 AM CEST on October 10, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Falling). 08:26 kf @wunder marseille 08:08 huginn kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 12.0�C (10:00 AM CEST on October 10, 2011). Conditions: Heavy Rain. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 30.22 in 1023 hPa (Rising). 08:08 kf @wunder Konstanz 08:08 francharb hi kf, rangi! 08:07 rangi hi francharb 08:05 kf hi francharb :) 08:05 francharb hello #koha 07:17 rangi a lot will depend on the ref 07:17 rangi wales looked really good, that will be an interesting game 07:16 rangi so eventually they cracked 07:16 rangi argentina defended well the 1st half, but they had done 100+ tackles to nz's 40ish 07:14 rangi only one missed kick from 9 07:14 * paul_p is dreaming again of a final NZ-FR though ! 07:13 rangi http://haka.co.nz/allblacks.php 07:13 rangi more argentina played well 07:13 rangi hmm not really that 07:13 paul_p seems Dan C. misses you a lot 07:13 paul_p Hi rangi, I couldn't see the NZ-AR match, but here, newspapers related that it was not as easy as the score could let one think. 07:12 rangi hi paul_p 07:11 paul_p hello world 07:10 huginn druthb: The operation succeeded. 07:10 druthb @later tell cait okay, fine, fine...I'm going to bed. :P 07:10 * druthb heads to bed. 07:06 asaurat hi 06:59 druthb pretty cool. 06:59 druthb discovered a feature--if you put "published: false" in the YAML front matter on a post in Jekyll, it doesn't get dealt-with. I had a draft post in WP that migrated over that way. 06:57 * druthb changes the footer from "This site powered by WordPress" to "This site powered by Jekyll. Nyah, nyah, script kiddies." 06:56 rangi yep 06:56 druthb (and getting the styling coherent between WordPress and MW was about to make me an alcoholic.) 06:56 druthb I have some wiki-ish content I want to put up there, too--encyclopedic stuff--and had been thrashing a little about how to do it. MediaWiki is a monster. 06:53 rangi thats what my first blog was in 06:53 rangi http://www.blosxom.com/ 06:53 rangi course blosxom was pretty cool too 06:53 rangi you can just thow html at it too 06:52 Oak "It supports several lightweight markup languages, including Markdown, Creole,[8] reStructuredText and Textile." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ikiwiki 06:52 rangi anything you want 06:52 Oak yup 06:51 druthb cool. Markdown? 06:51 * rangi edits his site in vim and git pushes it 06:51 cait will be back 06:51 rangi ikiwiki 06:50 rangi you can do all of the above with ikiwik 06:50 druthb :) I do too, rangi. Nothing tops Koha. 06:50 cait so koha must rank high :) 06:50 druthb jcamins was the one who turned me onto it; his whole website is done in jekyll. 06:50 rangi well i measure coolness in features, license and the people behind the project 06:50 druthb coolness is a factor way the hell down my list, though it's on there. The ability to do my editing in my Editor Of Choice instead of that wonky one in WP was a big selling point, as was being able to version-control the whole site with git, and automate the upload. So far, I'm happy as a clam with this. I've got about another hours's work, and it'll be ready for me to throw WP overboard. 06:49 magnuse http://ikiwiki.info/ 06:49 * Oak Googles ikiwiki 06:48 * magnuse was almost waiting for that ;-) 06:48 rangi its a million times cooler 06:48 rangi just use ikiwiki 06:48 druthb https://github.com/mojombo/jekyll 06:47 magnuse http://jekyllrb.com/ ? 06:47 druthb yes. 06:47 alex_a hi druthb \o 06:47 magnuse jekyll is one of those systems that generate plain html pages, right? 06:46 druthb Hi, alex_a1. :) 06:46 druthb I've got me a russian script kiddie who's comment-spamming me, and hammering away at wp-admin. So far, he hasn't gotten in, but there won't *be* any chinks in the armor with Jekyll 06:45 druthb it's turned into something of a bloated monster, in a lot of ways; no code discipline, add-a-feature-everywhere kind of mentality. And it has some annoying weaknesses that take some extraordinary measures to overcome. 06:45 alex_a1 hello 06:44 * magnuse loves wp, but is slightly appalled after looking at the code a bit - no mvc there! 06:42 druthb cait: :P 06:42 cait druthb: go to bed! 06:42 * druthb is looking forward to getting back to Koha work in the morning--she has been hacking her website into Jekyll all weekend, and working on throwing WordPress to the sharks. 06:41 magnuse so i'm thinking leaving it as it is might be the best solution 06:41 rangi yeah 06:41 magnuse it's difficult, without making it sound like koha is the company that hosts an installation 06:40 cait I think I will leave it like that 06:39 rangi :) 06:39 magnuse better start thinking about how to translate it, then 06:38 rangi yup :) 06:38 magnuse yay, "powered by koha" made it in! ;-) 06:38 magnuse hiya rangi druthb reiveune 06:37 wahanui hello, reiveune 06:37 reiveune hello 06:36 druthb hi, magnuse! :D 06:36 rangi hi magnuse 06:36 magnuse kia ora #koha 06:27 cait hi ropuch :) 06:22 rangi hi ropuch 06:22 ropuch Morning #koha 06:13 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Hollywood, Culleoka, Tennessee is 14.3�C (1:10 AM CDT on October 10, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 97%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 30.11 in 1019.5 hPa (Steady). 06:13 druthb @wunder columbia, tn 06:13 huginn Oak: The current temperature in Islamabad, Pakistan is 27.0�C (11:00 AM PKT on October 10, 2011). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Rising). 06:13 Oak @wunder islamabad 05:43 cait ah, that's not as late as I thought 05:43 druthb I wondered when that was coming. It is, after all, 0045 here. 05:42 cait go to bed druthb :) 05:42 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 10.2�C (7:39 AM CEST on October 10, 2011). Conditions: Drizzle. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1021.9 hPa (Rising). 05:42 cait @wunder Konstanz 05:42 cait lol 05:42 druthb we're in trouble. 05:42 druthb uhoh. she's bein' sassy. 05:41 cait :P 05:40 eythian cait: you're up at a more reasonable time. What's wrong? 05:36 cait aw 05:36 * druthb hides from cait 05:36 cait good morning #koha 04:36 Oak kia ora #koha 04:36 Oak hello druthb :) 04:36 druthb hello, Oak. 04:25 eythian good old collection codes from liberty: "Library", "Libray", "Librry" are three of them. 04:24 Amit_Gupta hmm 04:14 rangi some of your patches went into master today Amit 04:06 Amit_Gupta heya chris, druthb 04:06 druthb hi, rangi and Amit_Gupta! :) 04:06 rangi hi druthb and Amit_Gupta 04:04 Amit_Gupta good morning 04:04 Amit_Gupta Hi koha 03:50 druthb o/ 02:35 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6303] Display Organisation and Parent Organisation names when viewing a borrower of type organistaion <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6303> 01:59 wajasu so i suspect that my db data is "not correct", or normalized. 01:59 wajasu kr said that printing umlauts worked after kr' fix. but its hard to know a) what version of perl kr runs, and b) what format the data is in kr's db. 01:57 wajasu with kr's utf8 fix in the PDF.pm 01:57 wajasu thats a 3.4 version 01:57 wajasu the debian virt-manager i installed, did not produce a barcode label with a single u with diaresis after i added a book from the z3950 world. 01:56 eythian but it's not going to convert MARC-8 for you if it doesn't know that's what it's getting. 01:55 eythian Well, some things in perl get terribly upset if you have invalid UTF8 01:55 wajasu does the DBI routine always connect to enforce utf8, and such. 01:54 wajasu i wonder if the mysql -> DBI -> perl internal normalizes, or must each routine (i.e PDF::Reuse) address all that. 01:53 eythian it'll depend on where they're coming from I guess. 01:53 wajasu i did: select author,hex(author) from biblio where author like '%rgen%'; to see how umlauts are stored in my db. some have write combining, some don't. 01:52 eythian I think it's just moved from 5.8 minimum to 5.10 min, but don't quote me on that. 01:51 wajasu kr said that things worked for her environment. i suspect my data, or my perl version was the difference. 01:49 wajasu do the INSTALL files specify a dependency on 5.10. no. i should have run that 3 years ago. 01:48 wajasu there is even some newer use 'unicode-strings' or the like in 5.14.2 01:47 eythian well, eventually everyone will upgrade to newer perl, so that'll start fixing things in the long run 01:47 wajasu i am guessing the unicode/utf8 support in perl changed. 01:47 wajasu i setup that debian squeeze under virt-manager and see its 5.10.1, which my utf8::downgrade($line) fix did not affect the outcome as it did in my 5.12 environment. 01:46 mtj yep, me too 01:45 eythian 5.10.1 here 01:45 mtj wajasu i'm on debian stable ;) 01:43 wajasu i've been running perl5.12, are you guys all 5.10? 01:42 wajasu when we write them to the PDF, if the font is latin1, then should'nt they get converted to Encode::encode("iso-8859-1",$line) so the fonts match. 01:40 eythian It should be stored as UTF-8, but you may have data coming in as MARC-8 but believed to be UTF-8 which will cause some kinds of crazy. 01:39 wajasu i'm still wondering how the utf8 records should be stored in the database. I see 75 (hex u) CC88 (diaresis) for write combining in some records. then C3BC (ü) in others. 01:17 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6770] AllowHoldPolicyOverride not working <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6770> 01:10 cait lol 01:09 eythian :P: command not found 01:09 cait :P 01:08 eythian usage: ssh [-1246AaCfgKkMNnqsTtVvXxYy] [-b bind_address] [-c cipher_spec] 01:07 cait ssh 01:06 jcamins_away cait: isn't it like... 3am? 00:24 rangi yeah thats a good one 00:22 cait oh nice - 6190 00:21 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6190] Custom field removal from patron entry screens <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6190> 00:15 eythian hi there cait 00:15 cait hey eythian :) 00:12 rangi class war :) 00:12 rangi heh 00:11 eythian http://boingboing.net/2011/10/08/wipo-boss-the-web-would-have-been-better-if-it-was-patented-and-its-users-had-to-pay-license-fees.html