Time  Nick         Message
23:41 gbarniskis   thx all
23:41 * gbarniskis is off to dinner
23:41 jcamins      :)
23:41 gbarniskis   use Fire::Sources; # it's easier that way anyway
23:40 jcamins      Nor use a flint and steel.
23:37 jcamins      Nor use a lighter.
23:37 jcamins      Actually, I can't do that either.
23:37 jcamins      Heh.
23:36 gbarniskis   one operates a match by closing the matchbook and striking the match to the edge of it
23:35 jcamins      :)
23:35 jcamins      And, if you know how to do that, tell me.
23:35 jcamins      Oh, one thing I'd change... don't use eq. Use a match operator.
23:34 jcamins      Heh. True.
23:33 gbarniskis   i'm excited by the instant gratification of not studying perldoc MARC stuff or my school notes. I can hack this right away to get say, all Astronomy works
23:28 jcamins      gbarniskis: to clarify, I meant that the 773 is only used in special collections.
23:28 jcamins      gbarniskis: you're welcome.
23:26 gbarniskis   no, it's useful because I'll be jamming my own logic into that real quick now. ty!
23:25 jcamins      gbarniskis: that's only useful if you're going for special collections records, though, I think.
23:24 gbarniskis   very cool
23:24 jcamins      gbarniskis: pipe the results of the first script to | sort | uniq -c if you want to see how big the various collections are.
23:23 jcamins      And I just needed the three.
23:23 jcamins      eythian: good point. Didn't occur to me.
23:22 eythian      jcamins: you should make it just produce a file for each collection :)
23:21 pastebot     "jcamins" at 74.73.18.99 pasted "gbarniskis: scripts for dealing with UMich data" (33 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/64
23:18 wahanui      I know. That's why I said it.
23:18 jcamins      wahanui: very true.
23:18 wahanui      OK, jcamins.
23:18 jcamins      wahanui: very true is <reply> I know. That's why I said it.
23:17 wahanui      jcamins: i'm not following you...
23:17 jcamins      wahanui: very true.
23:17 wahanui      interesting is sometimes bad or sometimes good
23:17 jcamins      Interesting.
23:16 eythian      (dnsutils)
23:16 eythian      they come in the same package
23:16 eythian      - nslookup - the older way to do it
23:16 eythian      - dig - query the DNS in various ways
23:16 jcamins      host is there, though.
23:16 jcamins      eythian: dig never works for me on Debian servers.
23:15 eythian      dig is for examining DNS in detail
23:15 eythian      jcamins: I think it is, anyway. 'host' is the new one
23:15 jcamins      Shouldn't dig be included by default if it's the new DNS resolver?
23:15 gbarniskis   yeah there is a search
23:15 jcamins      I didn't know that.
23:15 jcamins      nslookup is deprecated?
23:14 gbarniskis   hehe. deprecated for real? probably why it still "just works" =)
23:14 eythian      most importantly, is there a 'search' entry in resolv.conf
23:14 gbarniskis   thx
23:14 gbarniskis   weird. putting it in the parking lot, since bare host names work for now
23:14 eythian      nslookup is depricated, what about 'host' and 'dig'?
23:13 gbarniskis   nslookup likes it fine
23:13 gbarniskis   resolv.conf is what the dhcp server dutifully gives everyone. should just work
23:12 eythian      DNS can be a mysterious beast
23:12 eythian      but also, what's /etc/resolv.conf?
23:11 eythian      that can sometimes cause oddness and need messing with
23:11 gbarniskis   i probably need to hack some dhclient.conf type of file
23:11 eythian      from /etc/nsswitch.conf
23:11 eythian      hosts:          files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns mdns4
23:11 gbarniskis   DNS and DHCP run on the house server and only debian (so far) has ever had a prob as a client
23:10 eythian      what's your search path? Are you running DNS?
23:10 jcamins      gbarniskis: you forgot to put entries in your /etc/hosts file?
23:10 gbarniskis   it likes "www" but not "www.house.local". not at all
23:09 gbarniskis   why does debian dns client hate my house.local domain? i can nslookup against it fine but all other apps not so much
23:05 gbarniskis   going to do some little utils too, because I want to create myself a way to organize selected bib/patron/transacton/library/syspref combos for staging tests
23:04 gbarniskis   coolness
23:04 jcamins      gbarniskis: the problem is with uploading giant files. If you use the command line tools, you won't have any problems.
23:04 gbarniskis   yah, I have wrapped stuff in MARC::Record before, for school. Maybe I'll sift it for juicy subjects and make chunks that way.
23:01 eythian      Try it, see what happens :)
23:01 eythian      Not sure, I don't use that very often. Anyway, I'm not aware of anything that'll easily split up a MARC file (I assume that's what it is?), I tend to hand-write tools like that as needed.
23:01 gbarniskis   i'm happy to load the whole thing if it'll go as one file
23:00 gbarniskis   tons but I thought someone in #koha the other day mentioned a limit on how many bibs one would want to attempt in one pass
23:00 eythian      It'll all go into the reservoir.
22:59 eythian      Depends how much storage you have really
22:59 gbarniskis   i am assuming i ought not try to batch load all of it
22:58 gbarniskis   ther free U of Mich record set is huge
22:58 eythian      what's umich?
22:58 gbarniskis   is there a koha cmd line or other util that will split the big fat umich records into smaller hunks for me?
22:56 rangi        heh
22:55 f18          good bye
22:55 f18          *narf* it seems like they shut the server in that moment down. TY for the help :) i'll try it tomorrow
22:53 gbarniskis   or for overkill -name "*koha*"
22:52 gbarniskis   find / -name koha
22:52 rangi        most likely /usr/local/koha or /usr/share/koha
22:51 f18          tarball
22:51 rangi        did you install from git, the tarball, or the packages?
22:49 f18          i cant find my koha installation
22:48 f18          hi guys, which could be a koha installation directory?
22:27 rangi        how was the mets game?
22:24 NateC        hiya rangi
22:24 rangi        sup NateC
21:46 wizzyrea     ^.^
21:45 rangi        :)
21:45 * wizzyrea   starts the campaign for sanity in fining rules
21:45 rangi        libraries will have done that too
21:45 rangi        if you can think of a way to confuse the hell out of your patrons
21:45 * wizzyrea   's head explodes
21:45 rangi        etc
21:45 rangi        .5 then 1 , then 1.5 increments
21:45 rangi        some increase
21:44 rangi        even worse
21:44 rangi        as they currently stand
21:44 rangi        the rules cant cope with that
21:44 rangi        and goes up in .50 from there
21:44 wizzyrea     i mean, completely logical given their situation :P
21:44 rangi        so 3 days = 1.50
21:44 wizzyrea     oh, truly silly things.
21:44 rangi        then after 1 day, .50c
21:44 rangi        lots of libraries do things like after 2 days 1$
21:44 wizzyrea     aha
21:43 rangi        123 applies here
21:43 rangi        well
21:43 wizzyrea     and how they drive her nuts
21:43 wizzyrea     but i sort of recall something cait said about fines
21:43 wizzyrea     *nod* i believe it's how ours are working.
21:42 rangi        its whats happening in 3.4.5 anyway
21:42 rangi        dunno about in the hourly loans branch, i assume its still the same
21:42 * wizzyrea   wishes cait were here
21:42 wizzyrea     :)
21:42 rangi        at least thats what used to happen
21:41 rangi        until you hit the max set in your sysprefs
21:41 wizzyrea     that's what I thought happened
21:41 rangi        each day
21:41 rangi        by 1
21:41 rangi        on day 3 overdue it would get a $1 fine, and then increment
21:41 wizzyrea     you'd have a fine of $1
21:41 wizzyrea     and it was 3 days overdue
21:41 rangi        so if you had fine amount $1, 2 day grace, 1 day interval
21:40 rangi        using the charging interval
21:40 rangi        then the fines kick in
21:40 rangi        once per issue, you get the grace period
21:39 rangi        sorry?
21:38 wizzyrea     something is tickling my brain.
21:38 * wizzyrea   can't remember
21:37 wizzyrea     fine grace periods are computed once per item? or once per fining interval?
21:18 rangi        cya cait
21:18 cait         good night all
21:11 rangi        cya sekjal
21:11 sekjal       cheers, all
21:11 sekjal       I must depart; got to pick up my wife, then go borrow a truck for tomorrow's rock-hauling party
21:11 maximep      cool
21:11 wizzyrea     someone will be interested :)
21:11 rangi        screenshots would help ppl see what they do too
21:11 huginn       wizzyrea: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011)
21:11 wizzyrea     @quote get 123
21:10 wizzyrea     oh, sure, submit them
21:10 maximep      well, like the ones in statistics wizards
21:10 * wizzyrea   is not sure what you mean by 'report pages'
21:10 maximep      no, it's new pages
21:10 wizzyrea     is that what you mean?
21:10 wahanui      report library is, like, at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/3.2_SQL_Reports_Library
21:10 wizzyrea     report library?
21:09 wizzyrea     sql library?
21:09 maximep      I have no clue if they are useful or not :/
21:09 maximep      Is anyone interested by new report pages ? Should I send them in bug reports ?
21:08 cait         not sure :)
21:08 cait         not disagreeing
21:08 cait         hmm
21:07 sekjal       it'd be a little more stable to specify than "span.subjects a"
21:05 wizzyrea     i have no objections to that
21:04 wizzyrea     ah sure
21:04 sekjal       as XPath allows
21:04 sekjal       or the "first", "second", "last", etc
21:04 sekjal       wizzyrea: you wouldn't be able to select specific subjects... but you could tell the program to grab each individual subject for any given biblio
21:04 rangi        yup
21:03 cait         jaws = screen reader?
21:03 sekjal       was the example I was using in my thought process
21:03 sekjal       exalead
21:03 cait         oh
21:03 rangi        jaws etc cait
21:03 cait         screen scrapers?
21:02 wizzyrea     well specifically, how would you select a specific subject among all of those subjects?
21:02 sekjal       screen-scrapers would be better able to pluck out each individual subject and index it
21:02 cait         not sure i see the advantage
21:02 sekjal       yes, it would require another patch
21:01 cait         to the xslt
21:01 cait         I think that would mean more changes
21:01 sekjal       so, <span class="subjects"> would have multiple <a class="subject">
21:01 sekjal       for fields that can contain multiple entries, like authors or subjects, have a "plural" class that wraps all of them, and an individual class for each one
21:00 cait         what liz said
21:00 wizzyrea     shoot
21:00 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6901 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, NEW , Add CSS classes/ids to OPAC and staff XSLT views
20:59 sekjal       hey, all, I've got a small follow up idea to bug 6901
20:58 Brooke       shouldn't that read I love my wife; I only like space.
20:58 wahanui      I LIKE SPACE AND MY WIFE
20:58 rangi        NateC?
20:57 wizzyrea     that would be handy
20:57 Brooke       cause that's what I need.
20:57 Brooke       do they publish git like that?
20:56 huginn       wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.
20:56 wizzyrea     @later tell oleonard i imagine you'll get this for your kiddos: http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/apartmenttherapy/ohdeedoh/~3/YBJn3jzlo9o/10-books-for-geeky-parents-to-pick-up-157160
20:42 Brooke       0/
20:40 Brooke       but it's not the same as speaking
20:40 jcamins      I don't know any Italian, so you're still ahead of me.
20:40 Brooke       I clung to it through IRC for a few years at Uni
20:40 Brooke       I must warn you that me Italian's gone steadily downhill since HS, though
20:39 jcamins      That's very exciting.
20:39 jcamins      Wow!
20:39 Brooke       certo
20:39 wizzyrea     s/as/at
20:39 * wizzyrea   was failing as being funny
20:39 jcamins      Wait, you mean I was actually right about what it means?!?
20:38 Brooke       but everyone ends up in blue, just about.
20:38 Brooke       generally refers to football
20:38 * Brooke     nods.
20:38 jcamins      It sounds to me like Italian for "the blues."
20:37 wizzyrea     isn't that a type of pasta?
20:36 * Brooke     has always been hot on gli azzurri
20:36 rangi        gonna be some huge hits
20:36 rangi        samoa vs south africa
20:36 Brooke       Contragiovanni was teh awesome
20:36 rangi        good game tomorrow
20:35 Brooke       hadn't seen the score anyway
20:35 rangi        they played ok
20:35 rangi        :)
20:34 Brooke       I watched a good chunk of the Italy / USA game in retrospect. Stupid NBC.
20:33 Brooke       has to be someplace.
20:33 * Brooke     gasps.
20:32 rangi        https://twitter.com/#!/shlew/status/119146872739856385
20:32 rangi        yay now im happy
20:25 oleonard     Bye, all you freat klems!
20:24 jcamins      ;)
20:24 jcamins      Yeah, the sort of thing that only hoopy froods say.
20:23 oleonard     that's the new word for cool that only the cool koha kids use
20:23 wizzyrea     wtf is freat.
20:23 wizzyrea     great :)
20:23 wizzyrea     oleonard that is freat
20:23 cait         already on working new features :)
20:23 * oleonard   assigns to himself
20:23 cait         :)
20:23 rangi        cool
20:22 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6933 enhancement, P5, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , Add a view of titles with a particular tag to the staff client
20:22 oleonard     Made progress, added a bug for it (Bug 6933)
20:00 cait         rhcl_away: or bring her to kohacon :)
19:59 oleonard     You'll have to get her an ALA membership rhcl_away
19:58 rhcl_away    I doubt that she would drink milk, especially my almond milk.
19:58 Brooke       PetCon 2013
19:58 rhcl_away    your choice
19:57 Brooke       sternly, or over warm milk?
19:57 rhcl_away    well, I'll bring her to the next KudosCon and you two can discuss the issue with her.
19:57 jcamins      Yeah, I have to agree with Brooke on this.
19:56 Brooke       if it's not OUT of the bowl, it doesn't taste good.
19:56 Brooke       that is weird
19:55 rhcl_away    My cam dat complained last night because some of the food I put in her bowl fell on the floor, and if it isn't in the bowl it isn't cat food.
19:54 jcamins      Naturally since I just bragged about Myshkin's good behavior he started begging.
19:53 jcamins      Grr.
19:48 rangi        survey done
19:47 jcamins      cait: it sure is.
19:46 oleonard     thanks for checking rangi
19:46 rangi        tag_id and optionally a borrowernumber
19:46 rangi        doesnt look like it
19:46 cait         jcamins: sounds like a miracle :)
19:45 oleonard     Yes
19:45 rangi        in master?
19:45 rangi        looking now
19:45 rangi        2 secs oleonard
19:43 oleonard     Could someone look at remove_tag in Tags.pm and tell me if I can pass it a tag+biblionumber instead of a tag_id?
19:43 Brooke       the interwebs nevar lies
19:43 Brooke       the interwebs says 56 people have answered the whole thing
19:42 Brooke       holy crap
19:42 rangi        im pretty sure she can tell mine too ;)
19:42 jcamins      Of course, what he lacks in frequency he makes up in persistence.
19:41 Brooke       :)
19:41 * wizzyrea   has filled it out
19:40 jcamins      We've finally gotten Myshkin to the point where he only begs for food in the morning.
19:39 Brooke       well Socks is tattling that I didn't feed her yet, even though she's got 22 minutes. That's cat for hi, I suppose.
19:39 jcamins      Speaking of cats, Myshkin says hi.
19:39 * Brooke     is just glad that her cat will not be the only respondent.
19:38 jcamins      (and for those of you thinking "well, obviously," I should clarify that Brooke's going to be able to tell)
19:37 jcamins      My response is the one written by me.
19:37 rangi        heh
19:37 Brooke       ha owen
19:36 Brooke       it doesn't even necessarily have to be library science folks - anyone outside the field might be useful for a baseline
19:36 oleonard     Brooke: Mine is the one that says open source is a huge sausage fest and we need more babes.
19:36 rangi        cool
19:36 Brooke       the more the merrier
19:36 Brooke       go for it
19:36 rangi        tweet?
19:36 rangi        will do
19:36 Brooke       please!
19:36 rangi        Brooke: can i forward to ppl at work?
19:36 Brooke       <3
19:35 rangi        or i will find you
19:35 rangi        do brookes survey
19:35 rangi        also
19:23 oleonard     Because the proof is in the code
19:23 Brooke       why cheer when you can mod?
19:23 Brooke       oleonard++
19:23 * cait       cheers for oleonard
19:19 oleonard     I've got the basics down, now I want to be able to throw in delete buttons
19:18 Brooke       that would be sexy if you manage it.
19:17 * oleonard   is pushing the limits of his copy-and-pasting skills to put together a page in the staff client for showing a list of titles tagged with a particular tag
19:17 Brooke       welcome back
19:16 rangi        back
19:14 Brooke       Wizzy I was just gonna ask if that came out of the OCLC treehouse, but everyone knows that's scotch.
19:14 cait         oleonard: if someone can do it  ... it's you :)
19:13 wizzyrea     don't take those together :P
19:13 wizzyrea     wait
19:13 * wizzyrea   hands oleonard some whisky
19:13 * Brooke     hands oleonard some nsaids.
19:13 oleonard     Koha's tags code is so opaque. Makes my brain hurt.
19:08 * wizzyrea   boggles
19:05 wizzyrea     so it must have gotten hung up in *memory*?!!?
19:04 Brooke       hooray
19:04 wizzyrea     :D
19:04 wizzyrea     and it's unbrokeded
19:04 wizzyrea     cleared the history
19:04 wizzyrea     I closed out of chrome AND firefox
19:04 wizzyrea     there!
19:04 rangi        my stop bbiab
19:02 wizzyrea     will try on that in a bit if closing the browsers doesn't get it
19:02 wizzyrea     ah I have other computers here :)
19:02 rangi        woot my gitstats patch got accepted
19:02 jcamins      wizzyrea: try it in a VM?
19:02 Brooke       kia ora
19:02 wizzyrea     no dice
19:02 wizzyrea     tried that*
19:01 wizzyrea     I did that
19:01 sekjal       simplest first plan:  logout and login to Koha
19:01 wizzyrea     ewps
19:01 wizzyrea     browswers. cute.
19:00 wizzyrea     let me close out of both of my browswers.
19:00 wizzyrea     well
19:00 wizzyrea     I would reboot, but I don't really want to :/
19:00 sekjal       the data is stored in "a local Javascript array"
18:59 wizzyrea     any search but that works just fine
18:59 wizzyrea     well, the search I did that messed up in the first plac
18:59 wizzyrea     that is SO WEIRD. it's still not working on a search i've already done
18:58 * wizzyrea   nukes the cache, closes the browser.
18:58 sekjal       it may be stored some place else
18:58 wizzyrea     yea
18:58 wizzyrea     so why would a search I had done before still be messing it up
18:58 sekjal       your browser cache?
18:57 wizzyrea     but I cleared my local cache completely
18:57 wizzyrea     apparently?
18:57 sekjal       so that cache is still screwing things up somehow
18:57 wizzyrea     a search I had never done before brought up the autocomp
18:57 wizzyrea     indeed!
18:57 wizzyrea     AHA
18:56 wizzyrea     oh! well let me check that
18:56 sekjal       changing those settings is better for me, sometimes searches I've already done still won't display right
18:56 sekjal       I don't know
18:55 wizzyrea     but it doesn't show it
18:55 wizzyrea     you can see that it gets the data
18:55 wizzyrea     http://screencast.com/t/lGwMcOGkUEq9
18:55 wizzyrea     no, it's not working
18:53 * wizzyrea   clears the cache entirely
18:53 * wizzyrea   does it again, to be extra sure
18:52 wizzyrea     yep, and maxCacheEntries = 10
18:52 sekjal       wizzyrea:  you're setting queryMatchSubset to false?
18:51 libsysguy    nevermind...its not hitting the mainlog
18:50 libsysguy    let me tail it and run again
18:50 libsysguy    it looks like it is
18:49 wizzyrea     sekjal - I made those changes but the behavior is still the same?
18:48 rangi        mainlog
18:48 rangi        yep
18:48 libsysguy    so would it be in those logs
18:48 libsysguy    so I'm using exim
18:47 rangi        can u see the script hitting the mta?
18:47 rangi        anything in mta logs?
18:47 libsysguy    is there something else I should be looking at?
18:46 libsysguy    and I get nothing
18:46 libsysguy    but I coppied the mail function from C4::Letters
18:46 libsysguy    I am writing a script to send out our overdues...and I can send mail with the mail command from command line
18:46 rangi        cool that'd drop out a couple of hits on the db
18:46 * libsysguy  needs a piece of advice
18:45 sekjal       one line
18:45 sekjal       rangi:  would be easy enough to add that, sure
18:45 * wizzyrea   too
18:45 * rangi      always turns the syspref off
18:45 rangi        has it been fixed to not start searching until u type 3 letters or more?
18:44 sekjal       but "do" would probably still need to pull in a whole new set
18:44 sekjal       so searching "da" would likely have a savings if you've got lots of patrons with surnames starting "Da"
18:43 sekjal       can be, if the second character search was within the first 60 for the previous search
18:43 rangi        right, harder on db?
18:43 rangi        that'd do it
18:42 sekjal       by eliminating that cache, we pull 10 new results each time
18:42 rangi        ahhhh
18:42 sekjal       what was happening was that up to 60 results were being cached, and then for the second character, it was trying to search the cache first before pulling in new data
18:41 sekjal       set queryMatchSubset = false; in our invocation on patron-search-box.inc
18:41 rangi        is it js?
18:41 rangi        yay!
18:41 rangi        thanks oleonard
18:41 sekjal       I think I found how to fix CircAutoComplete
18:39 oleonard     http://survey.web2learning.net/limesurvey/index.php?sid=63529
18:39 rangi        anyone got the link handy?
18:38 rangi        voting for the kohacon12 location
18:38 rangi        heh
18:38 wahanui      i guess voting is broken https://landfill.bugzilla.org/bugzilla_l10n/page.cgi?id=release-notes.html#v40_feat_vot_ext
18:37 maximep      rangi: voting ?
18:37 rangi        only 2 more days of voting have u voted maximep ?
18:36 trea         hi cait!
18:35 cait         hi trea :)
18:35 trea         morning rangi
18:35 cait         morning rangi :)
18:34 wizzyrea     hi thar
18:34 rangi        morning
18:34 maximep      yeah, seems like a good idea
18:34 cait         or perhaps your customer could?
18:33 cait         I thing perhaps you will want to compare
18:33 maximep      ok, well, maybe I will look into it
18:33 maximep      I was just wondering of the status
18:32 maximep      cait: and i'm not trying to force anyone to do the work for me
18:32 nengard      and wanted another library to test
18:32 nengard      he just didn't know how to put a sign off on it
18:32 cait         maximep: not trying to tease you
18:32 nengard      libsysguy says they're using that hourly loans in production
18:32 * cait       tries to look at the positive side
18:31 cait         you can do better starting today :)
18:31 maximep      jcamins: trust me, I wish we could have from the start
18:31 jcamins      maximep: ouch. That's why the Koha motto is "rebase and release early and often."
18:30 maximep      :p
18:30 maximep      heh, I have 50 branches of stuff to port from 3.2 to 3.6, so kind of busy
18:30 wizzyrea     weeird.
18:29 sekjal       if I set AutoCirc.maxCacheEntries to 0 (instead of 60), every new character initiates a search, but not results are displayed on screen
18:29 * wizzyrea   proclaims that you can't whine if you won't help.
18:28 cait         so it's almost half-way
18:28 cait         it can still go in and has one sign-off
18:28 cait         not sure I mean?
18:28 cait         why?
18:28 maximep      now i'm not sure
18:27 maximep      I would have dropped it happily for the one from the community
18:27 maximep      well we have our own branch that implements that feature
18:27 wizzyrea     help a sista/brotha out
18:27 wizzyrea     :P
18:27 wizzyrea     so, you're testing that then, maximep?
18:27 sekjal       any patches submitted, whether they need signoff or not, are viable 3.6 candidates
18:26 nengard      the patch was sent before the freeze
18:26 sekjal       maximep:  it's possible
18:26 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5549 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED , Hourly Loans
18:26 maximep      bug 5549 wasn't ready in time for 3.6 ? :/
18:16 cait         for = from
18:15 cait         i got some screenshots for the library, will try to find out more at work tomorrow
18:15 cait         hm ok
18:15 oleonard     No, I'm not aware of it.
18:14 cait         and do you know if that will get better with jquery? :)
18:14 cait         like the edit and add buttons on opac detail
18:14 cait         afaik there is aproblem with pull down buttons (not sure how to call them)
18:14 cait         oleonard: are you aware of accessibility problems with the buttons in yui?
18:11 wizzyrea     it does seem to have something to do with speed? idk.
18:10 oleonard     yui--
18:08 wizzyrea     well... possibly a very longstanding bug?
18:06 sekjal       untrustworthy result data for insertion into DOM.
18:06 sekjal       * Add formatEscapedResult() for implementers who need to escape potentially
18:06 sekjal       * Better support for forceSelection when typeAhead is enabled.
18:06 sekjal       *** version 2.9.0 ***
18:06 sekjal       from the changelog for YUI
18:05 wahanui      Cookies are delicious delicacies
18:05 cait         cookies?
18:05 sekjal       we're using autocomplete-min.js 2.8.0.r4... current looks like 2.9
18:05 wizzyrea     wtf does that mean?1
18:05 wizzyrea     sekjal! it works in chrome when the console is up!
18:04 cait         hi #koha :)
18:03 wizzyrea     i just double checked, did exactly the steps I did in my screencast
18:03 wizzyrea     sekjal: I can't make it work at all in chrome
18:03 sekjal       then third char is ignored
18:02 sekjal       if i type two characters REALLY quickly in succession, I'll get the two char search only
18:02 wizzyrea     (at all ever)
18:02 wizzyrea     (I couldn't make it work this morning)
18:02 * wizzyrea   tries to get it to work *at all* in chrome
18:02 wizzyrea     problem with the way newer versions of browsers handle this particular javascript maybe?
18:01 wizzyrea     I just had it get stuck after the 2nd character
18:00 sekjal       though sometimes the results from the first character are displayed, but the second char STILL doesn't init a search
18:00 sekjal       hmmm
17:59 * wizzyrea   tries that
17:59 sekjal       I backspace, and start with a completely different character
17:59 sekjal       UNLESS
17:59 sekjal       but the response is not displayed, and subsequent characters are ignored
17:58 sekjal       when it's not working, only the first generates the process, and response
17:58 sekjal       each letter typed should spawn a circ/ysearch.pl process
17:54 wizzyrea     http://screencast.com/t/3LmvKaxg
17:54 wizzyrea     see
17:54 wizzyrea     jcamins
17:53 jcamins      sekjal: that's too bad, but I figured it was worth a try.
17:49 sekjal       jcamins: no
17:45 jcamins      sekjal: does shift-reload fix it?
17:44 sekjal       I remember seeing it work briefly earlier today, on master
17:44 oleonard     sekjal: Are you finding that it sometimes works in current master?
17:43 sekjal       conjecturing wildly at this point
17:43 sekjal       oleonard:  no idea
17:42 oleonard     In what way could it be a caching issue?
17:31 sekjal       I think it's some kind of caching issue
17:31 sekjal       its getting stuck between the response and the display of that response
17:31 sekjal       when it's not working, my second character isn't initiating a second search
17:29 sekjal       it's not the code
17:29 sekjal       that would explain my git bisect failing
17:29 sekjal       huh.  and now it's not working on a commit that worked previously
17:28 jcamins      Ah. Yeah, sounds like it.
17:27 sekjal       I think it's my intranetuserjs
17:26 sekjal       missing } after function body
17:26 jcamins      sekjal: what's the error?
17:24 sekjal       but, it's still there when it all works, too
17:23 sekjal       jcamins:  checking my other firebug tabs, I'm seeing a Javascript error
17:22 jcamins      sekjal: data issue?
17:18 sekjal       patron-search-box.inc has not been changed since the T:T conversion
17:11 sekjal       all of the answers are non-sensical
17:11 sekjal       different answer every time
17:11 sekjal       okay, git bisect is NOT working here
17:08 jcamins      which?
17:08 wahanui      OK, jcamins.
17:08 jcamins      wahanui: which is <reply>
17:07 wahanui      jcamins: I forgot which
17:07 jcamins      wahanui: forget which
17:07 wahanui      or not relevant
17:07 jcamins      which?
17:07 wahanui      okay, sekjal.
17:07 sekjal       which is also not relevant
17:07 sekjal       now it's giving me commit ID 27c87aea11
17:04 sekjal       on a syspref
17:04 sekjal       template only change, as well
17:03 jcamins      Commit right after? That seems kind of unlikely.
17:02 sekjal       also template only, on opac-results.tt
17:02 jcamins      sekjal: maybe the commit right before?
17:01 sekjal       template only change on a different page
17:01 sekjal       no, it can't
17:00 oleonard     Yeah, that can't be right.
17:00 sekjal       interesting, since that commit doesn't seem to DO anything even remotely related
16:59 jcamins      wizzyrea: gee, that's a lot of consternation you caused. :P
16:59 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6468 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, januszop, ASSIGNED , Authorities browsing error in OPAC
16:59 sekjal       bug 6468
16:59 sekjal       git bisect indicates the problem started with commit ID da7bcbd4
16:55 wizzyrea     (but i'm appreciative of the attention, I'd really like to get 3253 in)
16:55 * wizzyrea   did not mean to cause all of this consternation
16:54 sekjal       starting a git-bisect to try to find the culprit
16:54 sekjal       okay, I'm finding autocomplete works better back in 3.4.2 than now
16:50 * oleonard   doesn't like fixes he doesn't understand
16:48 wizzyrea     meh, kindle fire.
16:44 oleonard     Looks like it to me.
16:42 wizzyrea     so we are thinking that this is separate from 6253?
16:42 oleonard     Sounds like a hit song "Shoot (it to me)"
16:42 wizzyrea     (it to me)
16:42 wizzyrea     shoot :)
16:41 oleonard     wizzyrea: I have a fix, but I don't know why it works.
16:39 wizzyrea     hm nope
16:39 wizzyrea     quote #100
16:39 wahanui      one of them is bound to have a good idea ;)
16:39 wizzyrea     well, one of them
16:38 wahanui      well, one of them is bound to have a good idea ;)
16:38 oleonard     one of them?
16:32 wahanui      i already had it that way, huginn.
16:32 huginn       trea: Quote #100: "chris: well, one of them is overhauling the whole templating system jcamins: Koha's other swiss army chainsaw" (added by wizzyrea at 07:41 PM, October 11, 2010)
16:32 trea         @quote random
16:30 huginn       wizzyrea: Quote #48: "<sekjal> no, anything I said was my fault" (added by jwagner at 09:52 PM, December 09, 2009)
16:30 wizzyrea     @quote random
16:30 huginn       cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 21.4�C (6:22 PM CEST on September 28, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1024.9 hPa (Steady).
16:30 cait         @wunder Konstanz
16:30 huginn       cait: Quote #154: "rangi: it's destined to be an eternal mystery" (added by wizzyrea at 04:53 AM, September 15, 2011)
16:30 cait         @quote random
16:29 huginn       wizzyrea: Quote #55: "<jdavidb> Harrrrumph!" (added by gmcharlt at 12:38 PM, February 11, 2010)
16:29 wizzyrea     @quote random
16:28 * oleonard   had better keep to his diet to make sure that quote stays accurate
16:27 wizzyrea     ^ probably involves bacon.
16:27 huginn       wizzyrea: Quote #22: "<jdavidb> owen: you wouldn't know this, being the skinny thing you are, but it is also good for maintaining a panoramic physique, like mine." (added by gmcharlt at 04:24 PM, August 06, 2009)
16:27 wizzyrea     @quote random
16:27 * wizzyrea   sighs with relief
16:27 oleonard     Yes and yes
16:26 wizzyrea     do you see? can you replicate?
16:25 wizzyrea     it gets weird after that
16:24 wizzyrea     (i don't think it's ever done it)
16:24 wizzyrea     yea, i note that as ok
16:24 huginn       wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.  Quote #160 added.
16:24 wizzyrea     @quote add oleonard: All of humanity's evolution and technological achievement have led to this day, when someone could say simply, "1s, vid" and make it so.
16:24 oleonard     It is merely an inconsistency that the patrons page has no autocomplete
16:22 wizzyrea     and most everybody *knows what i'm doing*
16:21 wizzyrea     hehe
16:21 oleonard     All of humanity's evolution and technological achievement have led to this day, when someone could say simply, "1s, vid" and make it so.
16:21 wizzyrea     http://screencast.com/t/3LmvKaxg
16:19 wizzyrea     vid
16:19 wizzyrea     1s
16:19 oleonard     What are you seeing wizzyrea ?
16:18 wizzyrea     can anyone else confirm that?
16:18 wizzyrea     because the mixed results are on master.
16:18 wizzyrea     i'm getting very weird mixed results - but I don't think it's because of 6253
16:18 hdl          oleonard: :-*
16:17 oleonard     In my jqueryUI branch
16:17 oleonard     It's already done
16:16 hdl          btw jquery.ajax and autocomplete should be used rather than yui. but can't patch that right away
16:13 wizzyrea     and now, it is.
16:13 wizzyrea     but not showing it
16:13 wizzyrea     (sans patch)
16:13 wizzyrea     sho nuff, it's getting the data.
16:10 wizzyrea     ok yes, I have firebug
16:10 wizzyrea     I have chrome developer tools, I could get firebug too
16:09 sekjal       wizzyrea: you have Firebug?
16:09 sekjal       I'm just saying that it's not working may not be the patch; it may be something preexisting
16:09 sekjal       hdl: yes, but the change she's testing is for the latest bit of patch for circ/ysearch.pl
16:08 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6253 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, srdjan, ASSIGNED , Unified Patron Search subroutine
16:08 hdl          sekjal: wizzyrea was testing bug 6253
16:08 sekjal       the JS just isn't loading them
16:07 sekjal       circ/ysearch.pl itself is working; the responses are being delivered
16:07 * wizzyrea   rolls it off
16:07 wizzyrea     ^ I saw that, maybe it's not this patch that's doing it
16:06 sekjal       sometimes it works, other times not
16:06 sekjal       i'm running master, and circauto is buggy for me, too
16:06 * wizzyrea   isn't gonna touch it
16:06 sekjal       hang on
16:06 hdl          it appears that my merge was made too quickliy
16:05 hdl          mmm wizzyrea please delete the patch then. Thanks for testing.
16:02 wizzyrea     search works, but the circauto appears to be broken, yes
16:01 cait         wizzyrea: so the search routine still works but the circauto doesn't work with one / both versions of the patch?
16:01 cait         wizzyrea: hm, javascript?
16:01 hdl          ?
16:01 hdl          and it is not ysearch can't work...
16:00 wizzyrea     i'm using the "fixed" patch.
16:00 hdl          wizzyrea: is circ/ysearch.pl broken ?
16:00 wizzyrea     and this makes me extremely sad.
16:00 adnc         ;)
16:00 cait         the time problem seems to be a general one
15:59 * wizzyrea   can't make it work anywhere
15:59 adnc         yes, still alive. Less time to play with it, but works great
15:59 cait         adnc: koha still alive? :)
15:58 wahanui      ...but wahanui is a bot|a repository of important and useful and accurate information...
15:58 cait         wahanui: you are slow!
15:58 adnc         cait, huhu
15:58 wizzyrea     no, it's on
15:58 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6253 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, srdjan, ASSIGNED , Unified Patron Search subroutine
15:58 wahanui      cait: excuse me?
15:58 cait         hm, wahanui?
15:58 cait         bug 6253
15:58 cait         I think the default is off - only checking
15:58 cait         pref?
15:58 cait         hallo adnc
15:57 wizzyrea     (that's with patch for 6253)
15:56 wizzyrea     what am I doing wrong? I cannot get the stupid circ autocomplete to work - it worked once and then.... it went away
15:56 cait         sekjal++ :)
15:55 maximep      sekjal: thanks, it worked
15:50 sekjal       didn't work, apparently
15:50 sekjal       for that particular bugfix, we tried out a new method for handling the updates
15:50 sekjal       maximep:  see  installer/data/mysql/atomicupdate/0009-patron-attr-display-checkout.pl
15:48 cait         sounds like a really annoying surprise
15:47 cait         hope it will be all ok tomorrow
15:47 cait         ah
15:47 paul_p       cait, nope, philippe is taking all laptops in his car, to his home
15:47 cait         going to sleep in the office? ;)
15:46 paul_p       cait, yep
15:46 cait         paul_p: getting a new lock tomorrow?
15:45 maximep      maybe i'm crazy
15:45 paul_p       cait, nope, just something broken in the locker (seems it's related to the "emergency exit" stuff that was blocked)
15:45 maximep      I can't find the query to add display_checkout in borrower_attribute_types :S
15:44 paul_p       (well, not 1 hour, he needed 2 hours...)
15:44 cait         any idea what happened?
15:44 cait         :(
15:44 paul_p       for tonight = only 1 door locked, and the 2nd one without any locker :(
15:44 paul_p       BibLibre office opened (by a locksmith that needed 1 hour !)
15:44 maximep      hmmm if I understand correctly, all the queries are in /installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl ?
15:42 cait         oleonard: since friday... of course :)
15:42 oleonard     maximep: Koha will think the database is out of date and run updates again.
15:41 oleonard     maximep: Look under the "local use" tab in system preferences
15:41 oleonard     maximep: You can manually set back the version number in the database
15:37 maximep      looks like my database wasn't updated properly when I switched to master. How do I run again the db update scripts ?
15:35 Oak          hello cait :) have a safe journey home
15:32 cait         hope to get back to bug wrangling soon
15:31 cait         was gone till Friday - happy to be home again :)
15:31 cait         yes - on my way back home to Konstanz
15:31 oleonard     Hi cait, haven't seen much of you lately. Have you been traveling?
15:26 cait         hi #koha
15:24 Oak          \o
15:09 oleonard     Hi jcamins
15:00 jcamins      Hey there, #koha.
14:54 wizzyrea     nothing wrong with the patch afaict hdl, but i'm not done poking it yet
14:49 wizzyrea     i'm testing it again now
14:49 wizzyrea     no, it's in needs sign off?
14:49 wizzyrea     I didn't set that...
14:48 hdl          wizzyrea: 6253 failed QA ?
14:46 sekjal       yeah... not part of our normal workflow
14:46 wizzyrea     didn't work this time anyway
14:45 oleonard     It obviously doesn't work.
14:45 sekjal       in an effort to the whole DBrev = "3.05.00.XXX" issue
14:44 sekjal       essentially, it's just pulling the code out of updatedatabase.pl
14:44 sekjal       the purpose of the atomicupdate file is to add alter the table to include the new field
14:37 oleonard     I mean what is the purpose of the file?
14:36 sekjal       the new column determines whether the patron attribute will show up on the patron detail pages, under their address/contact info on the left
14:36 oleonard     What is its purpose?
14:36 sekjal       we need to get updatedatabase to insert the column
14:36 sekjal       hence the problem we're seeing here
14:36 sekjal       but the normal database update script doesn't
14:35 sekjal       the atomicupdate file may well add the column
14:35 oleonard     It doesn't do anything?
14:35 sekjal       oleonard: that atomic update file is not invoked by updatedatabase
14:35 wizzyrea     but I'll do it again.
14:34 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6253 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, srdjan, ASSIGNED , Unified Patron Search subroutine
14:34 * wizzyrea   is tired of signing off on bug 6253
14:33 oleonard     Didn't work?
14:33 oleonard     This new file was added in the commit: installer/data/mysql/atomicupdate/0009-patron-attr-display-checkout.pl
14:32 wizzyrea     sekjal: it's missing
14:31 wizzyrea     ^-- current master
14:31 wizzyrea     http://screencast.com/t/u7tNUhnI
14:30 wizzyrea     AHA
14:29 sekjal       perhaps something went wrong
14:29 * wizzyrea   will look
14:29 sekjal       the database update method was done in a weird way with this patch
14:29 sekjal       wizzyrea: can you confirm that the borrower_attribute_types.display_checkout field exists in your database?
14:27 wizzyrea     hm ok not that then
14:27 * wizzyrea   is adding one on top of others
14:27 oleonard     Yes
14:27 wizzyrea     oleonard: do you have an existing attribute?
14:26 * oleonard   hates weird stuff like this
14:25 * oleonard   isn't having any problem adding
14:24 huginn       New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6323] Attach/move items -- error handling cleanup <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6323>
14:24 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5436 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, guillaume.hatt, ASSIGNED , Extended patron attributes display improvements
14:24 sekjal       likely a bug introduced by the bug 5436
14:23 wizzyrea     this didn't either: http://screencast.com/t/Wy3Vt3nNs
14:22 sekjal       argh
14:22 wizzyrea     and it wouldn't add
14:22 wizzyrea     just code/desc
14:22 wizzyrea     I did the same
14:21 * wizzyrea   couldn't
14:21 nengard      a code and a description - that's it
14:21 oleonard     nengard: What were the parameters of the type you were trying to add? I'm able to add on my system.
14:19 oleonard     Thanks :)
14:19 hdl          oleonard: thanks for your patches anyway and congrats for your 1st wining place on latest release.
14:16 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6930 critical, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , can't add patron attributes anymore
14:16 nengard      new icky bug found - bug 6930
14:13 hdl          simple information.
14:13 huginn       New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 4223] Too much serials info - design work needed <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4223>
14:13 hdl          oleonard: as I said, it was just to tell you.
14:11 oleonard     Mine is based on master and is in Bugzilla.
14:11 hdl          oleonard: was just to tell you.
14:11 hdl          oleonard: here : http://git.biblibre.com/?p=koha;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/dev/stetienne
14:10 wahanui      i think the patch is pretty old now, good luck
14:10 oleonard     Where's the patch?
14:09 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4223 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Too much serials info - design work needed
14:09 hdl          oleonard: this page bug 4223 you said this page needed design work. we also did some. and splitted the page so that numbering patters would be input in an other page.
13:37 oleonard     On serials/subscription-detail.pl, why is there a "(*)" after "Frequency" ?
13:30 oleonard     I wonder if this recalculation is not being done by the batch mod process, and I wonder whether that causes the error.
13:30 oleonard     paul_p: When I enter new information in 000, I might enter it as "     nam a22        4500". After the record is saved, the value has been recalculated by Koha as, for instance, "00483nam a2200157   4500"
13:11 paul_p       oleonard, it could, but it should not. afaik, only a part of the leader is recalculated (the biblio size, for example)
13:10 oleonard     I just know that the value I enter in 000 is recalculated by Koha before it's added in a normal edit operation
13:09 oleonard     paul_p: I don't know if that is a MARC21-specific issue
13:09 paul_p       oleonard, yep, I saw it. Couldn't give it a try, but on my tests, I had no problems, so I must reproduce your problem
13:08 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5725 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , Batch modifications for Biblios
13:08 oleonard     paul_p, did you see my comment on Bug 5725? I wonder if the error happens because the right calculations are not being made on the value in 000 before the MARC record is created
13:01 paul_p       good morning oleonard
12:49 oleonard     Hi #koha
12:41 Koha_newbie  ok
12:34 jcamins_away Arabic and Urdu are right-to-left, so why would you remove dir="rtl"?
12:29 Koha_newbie  jcamins_away: Example said that """You can create a table with every script and all characters you can think of. Remove dir="rtl" from the table tag for LTR scripts.""" (may I remove dir="rtl" in OpacHeader please clearfy)
12:21 jcamins_away Koha_newbie: right.
12:18 Koha_newbie  ?
12:18 Koha_newbie  so you mean... i just replace the Hebrew letters to Urdu/Arabic
12:17 jcamins_away Koha_newbie: I see. In that case, the on-screen keyboard example I gave you should get you started.
12:16 Koha_newbie  jcamins_away: thanks.... but I need that, because many people didn't have "additional language keyboard" right-to-left languages (East Asian languages) on there PC
12:11 jcamins_away If you have control of the computers the OPAC will be on, you might be better off setting them up so people can change the keyboard layout.
12:10 jcamins_away Koha_newbie: keep in mind, too, that the on-screen keyboard requires the patron to click on each letter.
12:08 jcamins_away Koha_newbie: then you'll need to modify that example for Arabic and Urdu.
12:07 Koha_newbie  i need Urdu & Arabic keyboard
12:07 jcamins_away There's an example with Hebrew.
12:06 jcamins_away Koha_newbie: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/How_to_add_an_OPAC_screen_keyboard
12:04 Koha_newbie  how to add keyboard layout button on OPAC page for multilingual search? help plz
12:03 _mika_       i fixed marcxml column manually.. thanks anyway
11:39 _mika_       argh.. MARC21_parse_test.pl doesn't fix my problem.. records were ok. i've converted characters straight to columns but i just wondering if there is some module which regenerates marcxml data in biblioitems?
10:50 cait         bye #koha
10:40 cait         good night rangi :)
10:40 * rangi      goes to sleep
10:40 rangi        night all
10:36 cait         yep :)
10:36 wahanui      you betcha rangi
10:36 rangi        nice day
10:35 rangi        :)
10:35 huginn       cait: The current temperature in 2 mi s of EDDS, Filderstadt, Germany is 19.4�C (12:34 PM CEST on September 28, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1024.9 hPa (Steady).
10:35 cait         @wunder STR
10:35 cait         trying to find the airport code right now
10:34 rangi        try the airport cait
10:34 huginn       rangi: Error: No such location could be found.
10:34 rangi        @wunder germs
10:34 rangi        hehe
10:34 huginn       cait: Error: No such location could be found.
10:34 cait         @wunder stuttgart germany
10:33 huginn       cait: Error: No such location could be found.
10:33 cait         @wunder stuttgart
10:33 cait         ouch!
10:32 huginn       rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 11.0�C (11:00 PM NZDT on September 28, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Rising).
10:32 rangi        @wunder wellington nz
10:30 rangi        the door is stuck or something, and the people cant come to fix until 5pm
10:30 rangi        https://twitter.com/#!/paul_poulain/status/118992875378843648
10:30 cait         ??
10:30 cait         ẞẞ
10:29 rangi        biblibre got locked out of their offices
10:28 cait         hmm
10:28 cait         and no paul_p
10:26 cait         fredericd: around?
10:10 Brooke       eythian++
10:02 _mika_       thanks, i'll try it
10:01 rangi        misc/cronjobs/MARC21_parse_test.pl
10:01 rangi        you could back up your db and then try
10:01 rangi        so if its corrupt too, then you cant
10:01 rangi        well you can only regenerate the marcxml from it
10:00 _mika_       how can i check it?
09:54 rangi        right, but is the data in the marc column (not the marcxml one) ok?
09:53 _mika_       mya problem is weird characters in search result page in opac
09:53 _mika_       looks xmldata
09:52 rangi        is the marc data still there?
09:52 _mika_       anybody knows howto re-generate marcxml data in biblioitems table?
09:50 wahanui      salut, _mika_
09:50 _mika_       hi
09:49 rangi        hi _mika_
09:29 Oak          \⬮
08:40 paul_p       I think too
08:39 rangi        i think only 3 days left to vote?
08:39 rangi        :)
08:39 paul_p       rangi, yep, well, not 18, because the 2 newbies starts on next monday ;-)
08:38 rangi        have all 18 voted for kohacon12 ? :)
08:38 rangi        excellent, well done!
08:38 wahanui      i already had it that way, paul_p.
08:38 paul_p       (BibLibre is now 18... do you believe it ? I can't ;-) )
08:38 paul_p       (said yesterday on the channel, blog entry coming)
08:37 paul_p       rangi, have you seen that : breaking news: we've found our new support guy, his name is adrien. And our librarian project manager, his name is Gaëtan. You should hear from them very soon ;-)
08:37 rangi        :(
08:37 paul_p       rangi, the door is still under guarantee, so we wait for the company who installed it. No one available before 5PM :'((
08:35 rangi        have to get a locksmith?
08:35 rangi        ahh i was wondering why the different ip
08:35 paul_p       and the door is 6 months old, ...
08:35 paul_p       s/tomorrow/this morning/
08:35 paul_p       funny day : impossible to open BibLibre office door tomorrow (and no sign of any vandalism) Everybody back home for a free holiday, except those who have a laptop or a computer at home...
08:26 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6733 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, ASSIGNED , printing routing list sends you to main serials page
08:26 jenkins_koha ian.walls: Bug 6733: change branchcode call in Labels to use userenv instead of LoginBranchname
08:26 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #450: SUCCESS in 47 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/450/
08:25 rangi        :)
08:24 francharb    paul was there if you want feed back ;)
08:24 francharb    hopefully ;)
08:23 rangi        i figure you'd understand it better than me :)
08:23 francharb    bookmarked!
08:22 francharb    nope
08:22 rangi        francharb: have you seen http://vincent.mabillot.net/around-koha-les-videos-du-symposium-570
07:41 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6733: change branchcode call in Labels to use userenv instead of LoginBranchname <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=973371a68b1c2a8af7d90afab8db15bda567f606>
07:38 jenkins_koha Starting build 450 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
07:32 francharb    hello Oak
07:32 Oak          hello francharb :)
07:06 francharb    hi all
06:51 * Oak        waves
06:23 huginn       New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6929] koha-stop-zebra falls over if a zebra process isn't running <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6929>
06:12 cait         hi again eythian
06:12 eythian      hi cait
06:11 cait         hi #koha
05:25 cait         time to go, bye all
05:16 cait         eythian++
05:16 cait         :)
05:09 eythian      are uploaded.
05:08 eythian      new packages for 3.4.5 and master are uploading
04:48 eythian      yeah
04:48 rangi        be kinda interesting, in a pointless way :)
04:47 rangi        we should run some log reports on the apt repo
04:43 wizzyrea     that's supergood
04:42 rangi        nice
04:42 eythian      I also note that now the only custom patches I have in the build is updating the changelog, that's good.
04:40 cait         :)
04:40 rangi        sweet
04:40 * eythian    builds packages for 3.4.5
04:35 cait         morning :)
04:35 rangi        morning cait
04:33 cait         morning #koha
04:31 mtj          the other cops are trying to work out wtf?!? happened, it's so quick
04:30 mtj          such a sneaky 'drive-by' macing, too
04:22 eythian      Or have a beard.
04:22 eythian      They could be taking photos of something
04:22 eythian      they could be though.
04:21 mtj          note to nyc cop... citizen != terrorist  :/
04:20 mtj          go msnbc
04:19 mtj          http://thelastword.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/09/26/7978720-rewriting-police-vs-protesters
04:19 wahanui      rumour has it interesting is sometimes bad or sometimes good
04:19 mtj          interesting...
03:39 wajasu       looks like i can't do utf8::downgrade($line, FAIL_OK);  because of strict subs.  Without FAIL_OK, things seem to work.
03:37 rangi        hmm still need a release maintainer
03:33 wizzyrea     apparently I'm special too.
03:33 wizzyrea     lol
03:33 wizzyrea     ^/^
03:33 rangi        heh
03:33 trea         classic, total classic
03:33 wizzyrea     %.%
03:33 wizzyrea     that's special.
03:32 rangi        http://artoftrolling.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/chatroulette-trolling-dog-mask.jpg
03:29 trea         hi rangi
03:28 rangi        evening trea
03:27 rangi        if its a bugfix, yep you have about a week or so to get a patch submitted, otherwise 3.6.1 november 22nd
03:21 wajasu       i might just have to submit the fix to the master (hopefully 3.6 ) if they will take it.  thanks for the effort.
03:18 wajasu       my perlbrew test environment has got koha 3.4.4 and perl 5.12.1, but with latest modules pulled from cpan as of a week ago.
03:16 wahanui      wajasu: bugger all, i dunno
03:16 wajasu       wahanui: what version of koha /perl   older, or latest?
03:15 wahanui      wajasu: sorry...
03:15 wajasu       wahanui: so you might have trouble on an older version of koha / perl /PDF:Reuse.  I was hoping that one line fix would help those in production now.  I may track that down.
03:12 wajasu       I also noticed my 1st line call number is missing in the 3.4.4 version. Hmm.
03:11 wajasu       hmm.  i had to apply the utf8 fix in PDF.pm in the prEnd() that 3.4.4 has so 3.0.2 will provide a pdf.(with bad mapping).  but when i do the utf8::downgrade($line,FAIL_OK);, my create-label.pl runs pinned at 100% cpu with no end in sight.  Perl version or other patches missing?
02:59 wajasu       Note: I did my fix on koha 3.4.4 code base (which also had use Encode; at the top).  I just went to try to print labels with diacritics on my 3.0.2 prod server wihtout the change and no pdf is successfully made. So other bugs are probably there (i.e. wide chars).
02:31 wajasu       thx
02:31 wahanui      okay, wajasu.
02:31 wajasu       i am also wondering if I can just report it in bugzilla, or will i need to actually supply a patch.  Also, to what extent should it be tested. (Each standard font we support in the dropdown?)
02:28 wajasu       maybe someone can do a quick test by editing intranet/cgi-bin/labels/label-create-pdf.pl printing a barcode data label, with a foriegn language diacritic in the texT such as ISBN: 0807015415; 0807015407 Habermas, Jürgen.
02:22 pastebot     "wajasu" at 76.183.114.76 pasted "quick fix to print diacritics for standard PDF fonts - want to see your udierisis? I added line 125." (24 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/63
02:11 rangi        thats what i ended up doing, and making sure that gets set in item.pm
02:11 rangi        if $self->{item}->{rentalcharge} > 0){
02:09 wajasu       but for other languages, we may need to support unicode, which i was partially successful doing, but will be a bigger change.
02:06 druthb       One o' my migration libraries would *love* to see that fixed.
02:06 mtj          wajasu+++
02:06 mtj          looks like you have made some good progress
02:06 mtj          the pdf->utf problem has been an old bug :/
02:06 druthb       wajasu++
02:05 mtj          wajasu:  well done!
02:03 wajasu       diggin into unicode creation of labels.  found that if I utf8::downgrade($line,FAIL_OK);  before $pdf->Add($line), that the FC passes thru and i see my diacritic (this is without embedded truetype font).
02:03 mtj          +    }
02:03 mtj          +          "Item has a fee, Please take item to the issue-desk to check out.";
02:02 mtj          +        $needsconfirmation->{'ITEM_FEE'} =
02:02 mtj          +        warn $self->{item}->{itype};
02:02 mtj          +    if ( $self->{item}->{itype} =~ /BKBS|MAGBS|SRP|SRTN|SRTB|VRDVDP/ ) {
02:01 mtj          and hardcoded the chargeable ITEMTYPES...
02:01 mtj          for the record, i modded C4::SIP::ILS::Transaction/Checkout::do_checkout()
01:59 mtj          rangi: pm-ed you... :)
01:49 druthb       It said, 10.5 hours...so I assumed 12, cuz we'd stop to eat, get petrol, etc...13-ish hours later....
01:48 druthb       Very pretty.    It's a long way from Kansas, though.  Google Maps is very optimistic.
01:47 rangi        hows tn ?
01:47 rangi        heya druthb
01:46 druthb       o/
01:38 rangi        can you remember what magic you did for kapiti to get the 3m machine to know that an item was chargable?
01:38 mtj          wat up?
01:37 mtj          heya, yep
01:37 rangi        mtj: you around?
00:03 rickx        hola