Time  Nick          Message
00:07 Judit         hi
00:07 wahanui       hello, Judit
00:09 Judit         in koha 3.4.1 when i run a system logs check  i receive duplicated result- i didnt find any bus reported only http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6460 which is not what i am looking for
00:09 huginn        04Bug 6460: normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, januszop, ASSIGNED , No log generated if Action set to All or Modify or Delete
00:09 Judit         have you seen anything like it?
00:10 eythian       I'm not sure what you're saying.
00:11 eythian       though, I haven't played with the log stuff much, so likely can't be much help anyway
00:11 wizzyrea      judit I think i've seen that
00:11 wizzyrea      let me double check, un mo
00:11 Judit         http://gowrie.calyx.net.au:8080/cgi-bin/koha/mainpage.pl › http://gowrie.calyx.net.au:8080/cgi-bin/koha/tools/tools-home.pl › Logs
00:12 wizzyrea      our actionlogs are huge... take forever to load lol ^.^
00:13 Judit         like it says: 33 lines found.
00:13 Judit         you scroll down and it says again: 33 lines found.
00:13 Judit         and list all the entries again
00:14 wizzyrea      yes, I've seen that
00:14 Judit         you have the same?
00:14 wizzyrea      indeed I do
00:14 Judit         what Koha are you on
00:14 Judit         3.4.1?
00:14 wahanui       well, 3.4.1 is http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=tree;h=ad72f266b9a9ee9d60062f4d38f326c92acb5674;hb=03e6e5cb033edceaffef0dd693300df8fa9fb0f6 rather
00:14 wizzyrea      pretty close to master
00:14 wizzyrea      http://main.makeuseoflimited.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/trolls-04.jpg
00:14 wizzyrea      oh sorry lol not that
00:14 wizzyrea      tee hee
00:14 wizzyrea      http://screencast.com/t/kGrrYAZ1
00:14 wizzyrea      thaat
00:14 Judit         :)
00:15 Judit         yap! that is the one
00:15 wizzyrea      idk if that's a bug or what
00:15 wizzyrea      the data is the same
00:15 * wizzyrea    pokes at it a bit
00:15 Judit         teh data is the same
00:15 Judit         okay: i dont see any difference :)
00:19 wizzyrea      nobody's done anything to it since the switch to TT... almost has to be related to that. I honestly can't remember if it used to do that or not
00:19 wizzyrea      do you remember judit?
00:19 wizzyrea      you may have had an older version more recently than I have
00:19 Judit         i have 3.2 - nothing like that there
00:19 wizzyrea      ok cool, that's instructive :)
00:20 Judit         3.02.05.000
00:20 Judit         no duplications
00:20 Judit         i dont have 3.4.4 to test it there
00:21 wizzyrea      well i'm on 3.5 (master) so it's def still broken
00:21 wizzyrea      or weird in whatever way it's weird no
00:21 wizzyrea      now*
00:21 wizzyrea      do me a favor and file a bug for that at http://bugs.koha-community.org?
00:21 Judit         okay, i will
00:21 wizzyrea      yay cool
00:22 wizzyrea      thanks :D
00:30 Judit         wizzyrea cani use your screenshot from http://screencast.com/t/kGrrYAZ1 in the bug?
00:30 wizzyrea      absolutely
00:39 wizzyrea      I think I found it judit :)
00:39 Judit         i am still at bugzilla
00:40 Judit         dont fix it before i submit it :)
00:40 wizzyrea      no worries I'm still testing
00:40 wizzyrea      i will wait for you, i have to have the number to make the commit message anyway ^.^
00:41 Judit         i am not the best bug reporter: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6910
00:41 huginn        04Bug 6910: minor, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Duplicate system logs output
00:41 wizzyrea      perfect thanks :D
00:45 jenkins_koha  Yippie, build fixed!
00:45 jenkins_koha  Project Koha_master build #426: FIXED in 46 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/426/
00:45 jenkins_koha  Chris Cormack: Bug 6755 follow up, fixing broken POD
00:45 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6755 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED , Problems with switching languages
00:47 huginn        New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 3966] receiving items should allow for entering barcode <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3966>
01:49 huginn        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6824 - correctly check basket viewing permissions <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9966d218ae1705b272841c721bf4355437ba5a44>
01:53 jenkins_koha  Starting build 427 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED)
02:06 wizzyrea      i wonder if srdjan was pondering this when he was looking at lost: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6490
02:06 huginn        04Bug 6490: major, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , Lost and paid not updated when book is checked out.
02:07 rangi         hmm maybe
02:07 wizzyrea      idk, I didn't test it... I probably should go back and hit it
02:08 wizzyrea      and see if it's still busted.
02:11 wizzyrea      nope, still broken
02:11 eythian       http://twitpic.com/l6s8y <-- new strategy
02:14 * wizzyrea    read that as "concocting people"
02:29 huginn        New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'kc/new/bug_6679' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=48d62dccfde25a7e19f662c94ecd37e7c69f289f> / Bug 6679 : Enable Critic tests for authorities and fixed resulting warnings <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e1bb9e5137110c636334d4039b46c68bfd615b42>
02:39 jenkins_koha  Project Koha_master build #427: SUCCESS in 46 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/427/
02:39 jenkins_koha  robin: Bug 6824 - correctly check basket viewing permissions
02:39 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6824 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, ASSIGNED , Basket permissions not looked up correctly
02:40 jenkins_koha  Starting build 428 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
03:17 Brooke        kia ora
03:17 rangi         heya Brooke
03:20 eythian       rangi: what's happened to sysprefs in master?
03:20 eythian       as in, the .sql files
03:20 rangi         gone
03:20 eythian       so, we just put things in the en one now?
03:20 rangi         theres just one file now
03:20 Brooke        I unplugged the internet, and when I plugged it back in, they disapparated.
03:20 rangi         yup
03:20 eythian       cool
03:21 eythian       although, the ru-RU and uk-UA ones look like they may not have been deleted
03:21 * Brooke      checks the tubes for the .sql files...
03:22 rangi         bug 6537
03:22 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6537 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, magnus, ASSIGNED , Simplified sysprefs for the web installer
03:22 rangi         thats the one
03:27 jenkins_koha  Project Koha_master build #428: SUCCESS in 47 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/428/
03:27 jenkins_koha  Chris Cormack: Bug 6679 : Enable Critic tests for authorities and fixed resulting warnings
03:27 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6679 minor, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Fixing code so it passes basic Perl::Critic tests
03:35 huginn        New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6905] Allow selecting a patron from circulation history to take you to their circ page <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6905>
03:41 huginn        New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 5436 - Extended patron attributes display improvements <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=061f2e9251bcfbb90b2babf3dee8a725b1295ba8> / Merge remote-tracking branch 'kc/new/enh/bug_4877' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5e94de956610072d3d37bbbde1c8d48920414118> / Bug 4877 - note that the create-db (or related) options are required <http://
03:51 Brooke        kia ora paul
03:52 paulnz        kia ora brooke and #koha
03:53 jenkins_koha  Starting build 429 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
03:56 Brooke        hey oak
03:56 Oak           O Hello Brooke :-]
03:57 Oak           kia ora #koha
04:39 jenkins_koha  Project Koha_master build #429: UNSTABLE in 46 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/429/
04:39 jenkins_koha  * robin: Bug 4877 - note that the create-db (or related) options are required
04:39 jenkins_koha  * henridamien.laurent: Fix for Bug 5436 - Extended patron attributes display improvements
04:39 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4877 enhancement, P3, ---, magnus, NEW , Create and update the manual pages for the koha-* scripts.
04:40 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5436 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, guillaume.hatt, ASSIGNED , Extended patron attributes display improvements
05:20 cait          morning #koha
06:14 alex_a        hello
06:14 cait          hi alex_a :)
06:14 alex_a        morning cait :)
06:36 reiveune      hello
06:36 wahanui       salut, reiveune
06:39 anjali        hi room
06:40 anjali        i m finding so many issues in zebra
06:40 cait          hi anjali
06:40 cait          hi reiveune and francharb
06:40 francharb     hi ca
06:40 francharb     cait
06:40 reiveune      hi cait
07:03 wajasu        i'm playing around printing various foreign language characters to a PDF.  ø for example.  i wrote a test script and got to see the character correctly with PDF:Reuse, so now I want to get that working in my label.
07:04 wajasu        I didn't use an embedded font, though it worked with that as well.
07:19 magnuse       kia ora #koha!
07:19 cait          hi magnuse :)
07:22 magnuse       hiya cait
08:07 pastebot      "wajasu" at 76.183.114.76 pasted "playing with printing foreign language characters to PDF. only prText(250, 340, $ustring4); worked." (40 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/60
08:09 pastebot      "wajasu" at 76.183.114.76 pasted "playing with printing foreign language characters to PDF. only prText(250, 340, $ustring4); worked." (41 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/61
08:29 slef          morning
08:58 huginn        New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6460] No log generated if Action set to All or Modify or Delete <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6460>
09:01 slef          can I interest anyone in reviewing that ^^ please?
10:07 cait          hi #koha
10:09 slef          hi cait
10:09 cait          hi slef :)
10:09 slef          can I beg you to review bug 6460? I'm willing to barter reviews if you like ;)
10:09 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6460 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, januszop, ASSIGNED , No log generated if Action set to All or Modify or Delete
10:10 slef          back in 25 though :(
10:11 cait          barter reviews?
10:11 cait          slef: I am on a train, not sure connection is good enough, but will try
10:30 slef          cait: I mean, is there anything you have stuck in needsignoff? If so, I'll take a look.
10:30 slef          thanks anyway
10:30 cait          ah
10:31 cait          no,I think at the moment my patches are all under way
10:31 cait          but perhaps will send some more for some smaller acq things soon
10:32 slef          ok, I'll go look at the memcache conf patch status again then
10:35 cait          oh, I think that would be great
10:35 cait          I got your patch applied - starting testing now :)
10:37 cait          slef: looking at the patch code - was deleting that much of the code intentional?
10:39 cait          slef: perhaps it was like this before - but it's annoying it doesn't remember the search. after submit the form goes back to the default values
10:40 cait          slef:  checked on master, old problem, will file separate bug
10:41 slef          cait: I know it's an old problem
10:41 slef          oh the forgetting? Yeah, I'll fix that while I'm there, but as a new bug would be a good idea
10:43 cait          good will file the bug, so far searching looks good :)
10:52 cait          slef: searching for all, all in a data range brings up a perl error message
10:52 cait          Software error: Can't use an undefined value as an ARRAY reference at /home/katrin/kohaclone/C4/Log.pm line 220.
10:54 slef          trying on my clone
10:54 cait          bug 6911
10:54 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6911 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Log viewer should remember search terms
10:56 slef          yep, that's new and my fault... trying to see why it's happening
10:56 slef          (as I didn't think I changed anything around the date code)
10:56 cait          ok
10:57 slef          thanks... this is why reviews are good!
10:57 cait          :)
10:57 cait          thanks to you for providing a patch :)
10:57 cait          slef++
10:58 slef          this is seriously odd though
10:58 slef          almost certainly bad coupling between viewlog.pl and Log.pm
10:59 slef          time to write a test case
11:00 cait          :)
11:04 slef          tests?
11:04 cait          asking wahanui or me?
11:04 cait          and what are you searching for? jenkins?
11:04 slef          yeah, asking wahanui
11:04 slef          need reminding how to run perl tests
11:04 slef          I've been doing more python recently
11:06 cait          perl xt/... for example
11:06 cait          not sure how to run al of them, but my wiki might now
11:06 cait          know
11:06 slef          hrm, what's the difference between xt/ and t/ ?
11:07 slef          surprised this isn't on wiki.koha-community.org but I don't find it
11:09 cait          hm
11:09 cait          don't know
11:09 cait          db dependent?
11:10 slef          I put it in t/db_dependent :-/
11:10 cait          sounds ok to me
11:23 slef          Attached Bug-6460-alternative-fix-updating-template-and-scr.patch
11:24 cait          ok
11:25 cait          have to change train soon
11:25 cait          but will be back and testing
11:26 hdl           slef: t stands for tests on Code and unit tests
11:27 hdl           xt stands for authoring code indentation, and sysprefs tests.
11:30 slef          hdl: where is this documented?
11:30 slef          (thanks)
11:30 hdl           slef: was told many times on irc...
11:30 hdl           And if you look at the code it is quite obvious.
11:31 slef          in other words, it's not documented...
11:31 hdl           could be detailed in a global documentation on file hierarchy
11:31 slef          I looked at the code and guessed, but that's not always healthy.
11:32 slef          yeah, I've sometimes suggested a HACKING file alongside README and INSTALL
11:32 slef          some projects do that
11:32 hdl           slef: well could stand in a developer's corner in doc/ or in kohadocs.
11:33 slef          hdl: or on the wiki, or .... yeah
11:33 hdl           problem is that when ppl know or guess, they do not take time to document.
11:33 slef          hdl: yeah, work and the immediate problems take over
11:36 slef          making a wiki page
11:41 hdl           slef: thanks
11:42 slef          http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Unit_Tests hopefully that will grow in time
11:42 slef          wahanui: tests is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Unit_Tests
11:42 wahanui       OK, slef.
11:57 cait          back
12:02 cait          slef: going to sign-off :)
12:02 slef          cait: it works now? :)
12:02 cait          if you have hidden a bug in there I have not found it yet :)
12:02 slef          bah I didn't hide the last bug... someone else had already done that
12:03 slef          I'm not sure that C4::Log line I changed can ever have worked right
12:03 slef          but nm, lunchtime!
12:03 slef          https://joindiaspora.com/photos/492047 rocks
12:12 tcohen        morrrrrning
12:22 lastnode      after i koha-restore
12:22 lastnode      how do i sync the databse scehmas?
12:23 hdl           hi tcohen
12:26 lastnode      oh lol
12:26 lastnode      my imported database
12:28 oleonard      Hi #koha
12:35 lastnode      it complaisn when i run
12:35 lastnode      koha-upgrade-schema
12:35 lastnode      any idea why?
12:36 lastnode      it's asking for koha-conf.xml
12:38 lastnode      arent all the config files supposed to be
12:38 lastnode      in the .targ/z?
13:07 slef          lastnode: is your export KOHA_CONF set?
13:12 oleonard      nengard: Could you attach the signed off patch to Bug 6670?
13:12 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6670 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Link patron name on returns screen to circulation page instead of patron detail page
13:15 nengard       oleonard - can't it doesn't apply anymore and i don't know how to get the signed off patch out of my repo - didn't i email it?
13:15 lastnode      slef: is that a sys pref?
13:16 lastnode      or do you mean the env variable?
13:16 slef          lastnode: env
13:16 oleonard      Yeah but if the patch is in Bugzilla someone can use git bz. It's not biggie, I just thought it might help the process
13:16 lastnode      slef: i just moved the site frominside /sites/sitname/ to etc/koha
13:16 lastnode      and it imported now
13:16 Brooke        kia ora
13:17 slef          lastnode: ok, confused with what you're doing and I'm in a meeting. Sorry :(
13:17 lastnode      np, ill catch you another time, slef
13:18 slef          also I think the patch cait signed off for me doesn't break anything but also doesn't work :(
13:18 * slef        returns to the drawing board
13:32 Brooke        0/
13:44 oleonard      I have revised my patch for Bug 6674 to reflect the changes made in Bug 5436.
13:44 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6674 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Collapse display of patron address by default
13:44 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5436 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, guillaume.hatt, ASSIGNED , Extended patron attributes display improvements
13:44 oleonard      Comments welcomed.
13:50 huginn        New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6755] Problems with switching languages <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6755> / [Bug 6674] Collapse display of patron address by default <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6674>
13:52 Brooke        0/
13:52 Brooke        <3 Dorothy
13:55 oleonard      Personally I think it's odd to not see *any* patron information initially. I would probably add custom CSS to make the contact info display at my library
14:05 Brooke        so
14:05 Brooke        are you swapping the default TO display
14:05 Brooke        or to crunch?
14:07 oleonard      ?
14:09 sekjal        morning, all!
14:09 Brooke        it seems like from what you're saying and the bug reads, that it'll be collapsed by default
14:09 Brooke        which I also agree is strange
14:10 Brooke        so why wouldn't we just pick a sensible default?
14:10 Brooke        (if more folks agree, of course.)
14:11 oleonard      I would help if someone from Biblibre (originators of the feature) explained the original motivation. hdl perhaps?
14:27 hdl           oleonard: ?
14:27 oleonard      Hi hdl. Please take a look at the screenshots I posted to Bug 6674.
14:27 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6674 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Collapse display of patron address by default
14:28 oleonard      Was it Biblibre's intention that all patron information be collapsed by default?
14:29 hdl           http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=5564 this one is broken
14:30 oleonard      Try again
14:30 sekjal        I don't see the benefit in collapsing the patron info on the sidebar
14:31 sekjal        that area isn't particularly crunched for screen real estate
14:32 hdl           oleonard: our intention was to collapse adress and phone. And show only library elements.
14:33 oleonard      hdl: Including all extended patron attributes?
14:35 hdl           mmm don't remember of extended patron attributes. I think collapsed too.
14:35 oleonard      hdl: What's left? Patron category and home library?
14:36 hdl           Because sometimes can be very big information.
14:36 sekjal        it's sounding to me like some libraries would want this collapsed, and others would want it shown.  so..... syspref!
14:37 oleonard      sekjal: Some simple CSS would do it
14:38 sekjal        hmmm, yes, if there is a block of CSS/JS that could be dropped into the existing sysprefs for such, then that would work, as well
14:38 hdl           http://imagebin.org/173698
14:39 wizzyrea      good morning
14:41 wizzyrea      kf I'm glad you found the bug in slef's patch
14:42 oleonard      No kf yet wizzyrea
14:42 wizzyrea      oh.
14:42 wizzyrea      ok
14:53 oleonard      wizzyrea and nengard: Here's something I'm considering for Bug 5898: http://www.screencast.com/t/NLY8kntWEz7
14:53 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5898 normal, P5, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , search to hold feature not clearing
14:53 nengard       works for me!
14:53 oleonard      I'm concerned, however, that that is too easy a target in that menu.
14:53 nengard       hmmm
14:54 nengard       even if you did accidentally click it it's not the end of the world
14:54 nengard       not like clicking it charges the patron $100 - they just have to search for the patron again
14:54 wizzyrea      it is if you meant to say 'place on hold for'
14:54 wizzyrea      pretty annoying
14:54 nengard       annoying
14:54 nengard       not the end of the world
14:54 wizzyrea      it's more annoying than the same patron being there after logout/login and before 10 minutes
14:54 nengard       really?
14:55 wizzyrea      as a person at the desk, anything that shaves time off of a circ desk interactiion
14:55 oleonard      This will go along with making sure the patron gets cleared upon logout
14:55 wizzyrea      is good
14:55 nengard       i'd think placing the hold for the wrong person is a bigger mistake
14:55 nengard       i'm okay with pretty much anything
14:55 nengard       wizzyrea knows best what it's like for people in the library
14:56 wizzyrea      there are very specific circumstances where StH
14:56 wizzyrea      is of optimal use
14:56 wizzyrea      it's when you're at the circ desk, the patron you are talking to says "oh, and I wanted to place a hold on the new twilight"
14:56 wizzyrea      chances are good there is someone behind that patron
14:56 wizzyrea      tapping their foot
14:57 wizzyrea      so if you accidentally nuked their entry from that menu
14:57 wizzyrea      it would be at least another 30 seconds
14:57 wizzyrea      to do the exact same task
14:57 wizzyrea      you don't really realize how much that counts until you have summer reading, with 10 moms with zillions of kids running around
14:58 wizzyrea      and all they want to do is check out books, get their home schooling holds placed
14:58 libsysguy     wizzyrea: do you know where the link to typewithme went?
14:58 wizzyrea      http://typewith.me/3gYf6ozqf4
14:59 libsysguy     wizzyrea++
14:59 wizzyrea      I happened to have the tab still open
14:59 wizzyrea      :)
14:59 nengard       time to go lay down - got to move the laptop - be back
14:59 wizzyrea      gl
14:59 libsysguy     haha Daniel was asking me what we worked on last time
15:00 libsysguy     but I was gone for most of it :'(
15:04 oleonard      Probably better: http://www.screencast.com/t/i4CcQMfvy
15:05 wizzyrea      you know what I think - you know the clear screen button
15:05 wizzyrea      can you piggyback the forgetting on that?
15:05 wizzyrea      clear the screen, forget the patron
15:06 oleonard      The "forget the patron" action will be tied to the loading of a blank circ page, so that will take care of that.
15:07 wizzyrea      ah it already does that cool :)
15:07 Oak           \o
15:07 wizzyrea      that would be good enough for *me*
15:07 wizzyrea      s/would/is
15:07 wizzyrea      just requires a bit of training.
15:08 wizzyrea      "clear the circ screen to forget the patron"
15:08 oleonard      It already clears (or should, at least) when you load a new patron record for checkout
15:08 wizzyrea      *nod8
15:08 wizzyrea      can you nuke that cookie on logout?
15:09 wizzyrea      so it doesn't carry over?
15:09 oleonard      I hope so.
15:16 oleonard      Have these buttons always been different heights? http://screencast.com/t/owivunxE Why has that not given me a headache until recently?
15:16 wizzyrea      well I had noticed it only in the last couple of months
15:17 hdl           oleonard: yep. yui.
15:48 reiveune      bye
16:00 jcamins_away  o/
16:01 oleonard      Hi jcamins_away
16:01 oleonard      Not only do I know everyone by their IRC nicks, I think of those nicks in my head as however much I have to type before I can tab-complete
16:02 oleonard      So jcamins, you're "jc"
16:02 jcamins       Good morning, oleonard.
16:02 jcamins       Heh. I think of the entire nick.
16:02 hdl           jesus christ
16:02 slef          jesus crust
16:03 slef          oleonard: the different behaviour of tab-complete and autocomplete sometimes bites me.
16:04 oleonard      yeah, the different behavior of different autocompletes often bites me too
16:04 hdl           you know you're geek when you speak to ppl with their irc nicks.
16:05 oleonard      Too bad for me I rarely get the chance to make that mistake
16:05 jcamins       So Ruth is always "druthb," and Liz is always "wizzyrea." Most other people have nicks somewhat like their names.
16:05 oleonard      Although I had to really think the other day when on the phone with trea and trying to refer to sekjal
16:06 jcamins       Oh, yeah, Ian gets called "sekjal" a lot.
16:06 trea          heh. yes. ^^ this
16:06 * wizzyrea    answers to "wizzy" in real life
16:07 jcamins       It drives Shari crazy.
16:07 sekjal        the proper, complete way to write it is Sek'Jal, but most username fields on the web don't respect capitalization or apostrophes, so I've simplified
16:07 jcamins       "I was talking to druthb this afternoon, and..."
16:07 trea          lol "who is that?!?"
16:08 jcamins       That sentence is made all the more confusing by the fact that I pronounce it like a single word.
16:08 * wizzyrea    is fortunate that the spouse knows everybody, mostly.
16:09 oleonard      jcamins: droothbie?
16:09 jcamins       It took me a *long* time to realize that "druthb" wasn't just an almost-pronounceable muddle.
16:09 jcamins       Short u.
16:09 oleonard      sekjal: Does "Sek'Jal" mean something?
16:09 jcamins       I also didn't realize that "jdavidb" was "J David B" until she pointed out that "Ruth" was actually her name.
16:10 jcamins       (and then I thought about it, and realized it was a consistent pattern)
16:10 sekjal        oleonard:  character in a story I never wrote
16:10 oleonard      Wow, talk about obscure
16:12 jcamins       Shari and I both have (at some point in our lives) used characters in stories we wrote. It's a great way to come up with a unique name.
16:13 jcamins       (used the names for online handles)
16:13 slef          I rarely get called slef
16:13 slef          mainly ex-TSWers
16:13 jcamins       slef: that's because you haven't met me in person yet.
16:14 libsysguy     ok so I think everybody knows that I am testing hourly
16:14 libsysguy     but I just tried to merge with master and obviously got conflicts
16:14 libsysguy     is there a command so that i can fix those one at a time
16:14 jcamins       Just go through the files one at a time, you'll have to fix them all before you can continue.
16:15 sekjal        libsysguy:  you should get a list of all the conflicted files.  go through each, and search for "===="
16:15 libsysguy     right
16:15 libsysguy     i just remember last time i merged
16:15 libsysguy     i fixed them
16:15 slef          http://mjr.towers.org.uk/writing/tswhist.html
16:15 libsysguy     then when i added my commits I had to go back and do them again
16:15 jcamins       Well, there will be new conflicts now.
16:15 libsysguy     I thought
16:19 jcamins       slef: but what does TSW stand for? There doesn't appear to be any indication on that site.
16:20 jcamins       Well, page.
16:21 slef          jcamins: The Student Web
16:21 jcamins       Ah.
16:21 jcamins       You put T into an acronym for "The"?
16:21 slef          yeah, UEA often did that sort of thing to make up the letters to 3
16:22 oleonard      Otherwise people think he's in a Star Wars fan club
16:22 slef          NAM was Nursing And Midwifery
16:24 jcamins       oleonard: but with the 'T,' I think it has something to do with "Technical Services." ;)
16:26 slef          let's see how many I can remember. Roughly from West to East we had WAP, BIO, MAP, MTH, PHY, MGT, ACC, NAM, OPT, SYS, EDU, ENV, CHE, CPC, ITC, HIS, SOC, DEV, EUR, EAS, REG, STU, DOS, LIB, ACCOM, CCEN
16:26 slef          WAM not WAP
16:26 slef          duh! ;-)
16:26 oleonard      Yeah, duh.
16:32 cait          hi #koha
16:32 wizzyrea      hi cait :)
16:32 slef          cait: hi. I just updated THAT BLOODY PATCH :)
16:32 cait          oh, another problem found?
16:32 cait          my umts card is striking
16:32 cait          even here at the hotel
16:32 wizzyrea      i'm so glad you guys found the problem with that
16:33 cait          have to pay an insanely price now
16:33 cait          hmpf
16:33 slef          yeah, after I fixed the regression, the bug reappeared
16:33 slef          boo hotel! boo umts!
16:33 wizzyrea      judit reported the dupe results
16:33 wizzyrea      last night
16:33 cait          yep boo
16:33 cait          ah, I didn#t see dupe results
16:33 cait          in my tests
16:33 wizzyrea      which you conveniently fixed
16:33 cait          oh
16:33 wizzyrea      nah, he fixed it in that patch
16:33 cait          slef
16:33 wizzyrea      i was in process of fixing it and I saw his patch :)
16:33 wizzyrea      slef++
16:33 slef          wizzyrea: yeah, I'm not sure what that was about, so I deleted a chunk of template in the patch.
16:33 cait          can we start at the beginning of the story?
16:33 wizzyrea      *nod* I was about to do the same
16:34 slef          I should have mentioned that in the commit message. I suck.
16:34 cait          I think I didn' attach the signed-off patch because it kicked me out before I could do that
16:34 slef          cait: heh, look at the patch you reviewed.
16:34 slef          cait: never mind: new patch with more tests is uploaded now.
16:34 huginn        New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6460] No log generated if Action set to All or Modify or Delete <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6460>
16:34 cait          ohok
16:34 cait          so... someone going to tell me about the problem?
16:34 slef          and as if by magic, huginn appeares
16:34 * cait        is confused by now
16:34 slef          cait: look at what the patch does to viewlog.tt
16:35 slef          it deletes a whole second results table
16:35 cait          you deleted lots of code
16:35 cait          but it still seemed to work
16:35 slef          I've no idea why that was there, or where it came from
16:35 cait          I had asked you if that was intentional :)
16:35 wizzyrea      it was a duplicate table
16:35 wizzyrea      the data output was exactly the same
16:35 slef          cait: silly bee, don't expect me to remember earlier today!
16:35 wizzyrea      just... twice
16:35 wizzyrea      so random.
16:35 * slef        is a goldfish. Ooh, look at the castle!
16:36 * slef        swims around for 7 seconds. Ooh, look at the castle!
16:36 * wizzyrea    imagines slef taking another laf "ooh! A castle!"
16:36 * wizzyrea    giggles
16:36 cait          bee? bss?
16:36 wizzyrea      s/laf/lap
16:36 cait          rofl
16:36 cait          ok
16:36 slef          anyway, I'm being parachuted into a mailserver. bbiaf
16:36 cait          being disconnected is sooo annoying
16:37 slef          cait: yeah, especially when it happens halfway through a conversa+++ NO CARRIER
16:37 wizzyrea      bbiaf -> i know it's "be back in a few" but my brain told me that meant "be back in a fire"
16:38 oleonard      similar to the common "ctaof," for "Can't talk, am on fire"
16:38 jcamins       It's Friday, isn't it?
16:38 slef          lp0: printer on fire
16:39 slef          I soooo want someone to use that as a film title.
16:39 libsysguy     ok so i made all the fixes
16:39 libsysguy     and I added them all
16:39 libsysguy     and tried to finish the merge and it still said i needed to add or commit
16:39 libsysguy     what should I do?
16:40 jcamins       git status doesn't show any changes?
16:40 libsysguy     tons
16:40 wizzyrea      git commit -a with a commit message of "solving conflicts" or somesuch?
16:40 * wizzyrea    is not an expert, fyi.
16:40 jcamins       libsysguy: I mean, unstaged changes.
16:41 jcamins       If there are no unstaged changes, I think it's time to do a git commit.
16:41 libsysguy     oh when i committed it took them all away
16:42 libsysguy     so now I should try and finish the merge?
16:42 jcamins       Yes.
16:42 jcamins       I think.
16:42 libsysguy     hehe me too
16:42 * jcamins     rarely does merges with commits.
16:42 jcamins       s/conflicts
16:43 libsysguy     ok so it says its up to date
16:43 wizzyrea      YAY
16:43 libsysguy     so I guess im golden
16:43 jcamins       Yay!
16:43 libsysguy     and the catalog is no longer broken
16:43 wizzyrea      now, to test it all :P
16:43 wizzyrea      you must TEST ALL THE THINGS
16:44 jcamins       EVERYTHING!!!
16:44 wizzyrea      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_cUS9FdWEk&feature=player_profilepage
16:44 wizzyrea      like this
16:44 libsysguy     omg wizzyrea are you a redditor?
16:45 wizzyrea      ummm not most days no
16:45 libsysguy     http://images.memegenerator.net/instances/280x280/9804273.jpg
16:45 wizzyrea      i read reddit back ages ago
16:45 wizzyrea      hehe
16:45 * jcamins     never read reddit.
16:45 wizzyrea      @quote add http://images.memegenerator.net/instances/280x280/9804273.jpg
16:45 huginn        wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.  Quote #158 added.
16:46 wizzyrea      158, gotta remember that
16:46 oleonard      http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/x-all-the-y
16:46 cait          what is reddit?
16:46 oleonard      http://www.reddit.com
16:47 jcamins       cait: don't follow that link!
16:47 jcamins       cait: it's like a black hole of time wasting.
16:47 cait          like facebook?
16:47 jcamins       Like tvtropes.
16:48 cait          slef: hm, don't get your comment on 'our' bug
16:48 cait          slef: I got nice result lists
16:48 cait          when testing your second patch
16:49 slef          cait: yeah, I think I was wrong, but the third patch has more test cases anyway which is good.
16:49 cait          hm ok
16:50 cait          nots ure i will get around to it.. because I should learn for my exam tomorrow
16:50 wizzyrea      and you both tested with ALL ALL
16:50 wizzyrea      slef I can sign off
16:50 cait          wizzyrea: all all was what made the second patch necessary :)
16:50 wizzyrea      yea, I know
16:50 cait          ah ok
16:50 cait          sorry, long day
16:50 wizzyrea      :)
16:50 wizzyrea      all good :)
16:50 wizzyrea      favorite quotes?
16:50 wahanui       23: how to identify with huginn, 123: mad schemes, 158: test all the things
16:52 cait          gonna buy some dinner at the super market across the street - will be back
16:53 jcamins       test all things?
16:53 jcamins       wahanui: test all things is <reply>@quote get 158
16:53 wahanui       OK, jcamins.
16:53 jcamins       test all things?
16:53 wahanui       @quote get 158
16:53 huginn        wahanui: Quote #158: "http://images.memegenerator.net/instances/280x280/9804273.jpg" (added by wizzyrea at 04:45 PM, September 23, 2011)
16:53 wahanui       huginn: sorry...
16:53 huginn        wahanui: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready
16:53 wahanui       ...but i'll give you the answer just as soon as rda is <reply>...
16:54 wizzyrea      lol omg
16:54 oleonard      What was all that?
16:54 wizzyrea      you just caused a botfight
16:54 jcamins       I wasn't expecting that.
16:54 wizzyrea      jcamins did
16:54 * wizzyrea    either
16:57 * jcamins     goes to eat some lunch.
17:00 slef          please anyone sign off, heroes
17:00 slef          WELCOME TO HOOGERLAND. POPULATION: HEROES
17:00 wizzyrea      @quote add slef: WELCOME TO HOOGERLAND. POPULATION: HEROES
17:00 huginn        wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.  Quote #159 added.
17:01 wizzyrea      it's a quotey kind of day
17:01 * wizzyrea    will sign off
17:01 wizzyrea      worry not slef :)
17:01 slef          yeah, I had a colleague saying "yes, the sex was intentional" during a meeting today... and it made sense in context but... wow.
17:02 wizzyrea      lol wow
17:03 slef          did you see Hoogerland, btw?
17:03 * gmcharlt    just picked an interesting time to read scrollback
17:03 slef          gmcharlt: it's always an interesting time in #koha
17:09 jcamins       gmcharlt: also, it's Friday.
17:23 cait          back :)
17:24 cait          friday++
17:24 slef          in theory I finish work early today.
17:25 slef          In practice, it's 1830 and there is still more I want to do
17:26 cait          normal
17:27 wizzyrea      slef: about to mail the signed off patch
17:27 wizzyrea      it's already attached to the bug
17:28 wizzyrea      bug 6460
17:28 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6460 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, januszop, ASSIGNED , No log generated if Action set to All or Modify or Delete
17:29 * wizzyrea    sighs
17:29 wizzyrea      got two -s's in there i guess.
17:29 wizzyrea      <facedesk>
17:30 libsysguy     so I have something to say about that whole tt issue thats going around on the devel listserv
17:31 libsysguy     somebody pick one so when I merge i don't have to keep fixing the conflicts lol
17:34 sekjal        6460 passed QA
17:47 * chris_n     briefly wonders why he, the network admin, is the only one without a ups on his workstation... :-/
17:53 jcamins       chris_n: to keep you in your place?
17:53 chris_n       lol
17:54 chris_n       well, if the OS would load into NVRAM, the turn-around time would be phenomenal
17:54 chris_n       but as it is...
17:55 wizzyrea      ok, friday recommendation time: best laptops to run linux on - go
17:55 jcamins       To ensure your level of paranoia remains high?
17:55 jcamins       wizzyrea: are you dual-booting?
17:55 wizzyrea      nope
17:55 jcamins       Very wise.
17:57 wizzyrea      (opinions are ok)
17:58 * cait        bought a thinkpad
17:58 cait          so far everything is nice
17:59 * jcamins     liked his Fujitsu -- other than the power connector -- an awful lot.
17:59 jcamins       wizzyrea: what size laptop are you thinking about?
18:00 wizzyrea      smallish, light-ish
18:04 * jcamins     bought a Mac so he wouldn't have to figure out what kind of computer to buy.
18:04 jcamins       So I have no advice.
18:04 * wizzyrea    laughs
18:04 wizzyrea      I have a mac too
18:04 wizzyrea      but I don't like the way linux runs on it.
18:04 jcamins       I know you do.
18:04 jcamins       I run Linux in a VM.
18:04 wizzyrea      and i'm tired of apple.
18:05 jcamins       Well, lots of VMs.
18:08 slef          thanks wizzyrea sekjal ... will backport to 3.2 as soon as I can
18:09 slef          wizzyrea: I think we like the Samsung N series for netbooks.
18:09 wizzyrea      well, here's what I'm reading
18:09 wizzyrea      that no matter what you buy
18:09 wizzyrea      it's going to be 6mo before it actually works properly
18:09 wizzyrea      (give or take)
18:09 jcamins       Sounds about right.
18:09 slef          yeah and the scum keep changing the internal components without changing the model number
18:10 slef          or sometimes they change the model number and only the amount of RAM or disk space has changed
18:10 slef          I'm not a hardware co-op member: can you tell?
18:10 wizzyrea      :)
18:10 wizzyrea      hardware apparently is, well, harder.
18:11 wizzyrea      takes longer to refine physical things.
18:12 jcamins       My brother has a Dell laptop he likes, I think.
18:12 jcamins       But he runs Windows on it.
18:14 jcamins       And my father has a Sony or HP that he likes.
18:34 oleonard-away "We’re sorry, but your Gmail account is temporarily unavailable"
18:34 huginn        New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5898] search to hold feature not clearing <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5898>
18:35 jcamins       oleonard-away: mail.google.com isn't even resolving here.
18:35 wizzyrea      neato
18:36 oleonard-away There goes civilization.
18:37 jcamins       Actually, it might not have been Gmail's fault.
18:38 wizzyrea      hum, it's just very slow freom here
18:38 wizzyrea      but it's working
18:39 jcamins       I think they are having some issues, but the DNS resolution was a hiccup with the LAN here.
18:39 trea          i was having some issues as well, but it seems to be working, albeit slowly
18:40 wizzyrea      oleonard: on 5898 it's supposed to clear on logout?
18:41 oleonard      Yes
18:41 oleonard      A script file is modified, so you might have to shift-reload
18:41 wizzyrea      AG
18:41 wizzyrea      AH
18:41 wizzyrea      ty
18:41 * wizzyrea    will do that
18:43 wizzyrea      ok, I had to clear my existing cookie
18:43 wizzyrea      before it would work
18:43 wizzyrea      seems rational
18:43 * wizzyrea    tests it again
18:44 wizzyrea      yep, that got it. Works now. :)
18:50 oleonard      I posted a screenshot to bug 4298 btw
18:50 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4298 enhancement, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW , Title detail display: improve display of item level hold information
18:52 wizzyrea      one comment, the message "on hold" doesn't get at what the issue here is, which is that the hold is not title level, but item level
18:53 wizzyrea      people get confused because "how can it be checked out and on hold at the same time"
18:53 wizzyrea      the message is correct, technically
18:53 wizzyrea      on hold for martha jones.
18:53 wizzyrea      that's nice.
18:54 wizzyrea      I like that :)
18:57 oleonard      A real Martha Jones...one who probably has no idea about her name
18:57 wizzyrea      hehe
18:59 oleonard      Thanks for the signoff wizzyrea
18:59 wizzyrea      yw
19:01 oleonard      So does the "on hold" message only appear if it's an item-level hold?
19:01 wizzyrea      that's a good question
19:01 wizzyrea      i wonder if the same mesesage serves for items that are waiting.
19:01 wizzyrea      I don't think it does
19:01 * wizzyrea    checks
19:02 oleonard      There's a separate snippet of text for Waiting
19:02 wizzyrea      what's this one described as
19:02 oleonard      known as "Waiting"
19:02 wizzyrea      "on hold?"
19:02 oleonard      IF ("waiting") Waiting ELSE On hold
19:03 oleonard      But we don't say on hold for every available copy in the holding table anymore, so maybe this is only for item-level holds.
19:04 wizzyrea      it  has been my experience that what you describe ^ is the case
19:04 wizzyrea      1mo and I'll verify
19:06 wizzyrea      http://screencast.com/t/VWY8mHM3TP
19:08 oleonard      My browser is all, "omg screencast from wizzyrea, better maximize"
19:08 wizzyrea      oy. sorry.
19:08 oleonard      :)
19:08 wizzyrea      lookit my tabs!
19:08 wizzyrea      :P
19:11 oleonard      Yo dawg I heard you like Chrome so I put some Chrome in your Chrome http://screencast.com/t/qFVfYUtrpzVt
19:12 wizzyrea      LOL
19:12 wizzyrea      NE NE NE
19:12 wizzyrea      htf do I get anything done. ;)
19:14 wizzyrea      I recognized an interesting behavior in myself this morning
19:15 wizzyrea      rather than click up to the address bar to type in a google search in a completely expendable tab, I ctrl-n'd and started typing
19:15 wizzyrea      why would I do that? that is not sane at all.
19:15 jcamins       You would do that because you don't know the shorcut Alt-D.
19:15 wizzyrea      this, i'm sure, is how I end up with eleven zillion tabs.
19:16 slef          ctrl l SearchEngineShortcutKeyword search terms
19:16 wizzyrea      well I do now, sheesh
19:16 jcamins       Or Ctrl-L.
19:16 * slef        has ripped all the googlespecifics possible out of his lizards
19:17 wizzyrea      jcamins++ that's helpful
19:17 jcamins       Or Ctrl-K.
19:17 jcamins       And now you have three shortcuts to simplify reusing tabs. :)
19:18 wizzyrea      yay
19:18 slef          like I can type kohabug something to query bugzilla
19:18 wizzyrea      ooo that's neat
19:18 slef          or I can just @query wahanui
19:18 * wizzyrea    admits to sometimes saying the bug number *just to get the link*
19:18 slef          @query huginn sorry
19:18 huginn        slef: No results for "huginn sorry."
19:19 slef          wizzyrea: right click a search engine query box some time ;-)
19:19 slef          "Add Keyword for search..."
19:19 wizzyrea      oo slef++ neato
19:19 slef          now I'm feeling old
19:19 * slef        goes in search of food
19:19 wizzyrea      nah not old
19:20 wizzyrea      experienced ^.^
19:20 oleonard      Feeling old... search of food... slef's a vampire.
19:20 wizzyrea      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1Y73sPHKxw
19:21 oleonard      Why do I always fubar my test system to where I can't place holds? How do I do it?
19:22 cait          hm intensive testing?
19:22 wizzyrea      ^^
19:22 wizzyrea      so.
19:22 wizzyrea      I had a thought
19:22 wizzyrea      i know, for once.
19:22 wizzyrea      it's easy to dump and reload databases using the packages, right?
19:23 jcamins       wizzyrea: super easy.
19:24 wizzyrea      what if there was a standard testing DB we made
19:24 wizzyrea      packed it in with the packages
19:24 wizzyrea      and had a koha-build-testing --reload
19:24 wizzyrea      or somesuch
19:24 wizzyrea      more likely koha-build-testdb
19:25 jcamins       That'd be pretty cool, but aren't people more often testing with git?
19:25 wizzyrea      yea, they are
19:25 * wizzyrea    ponders more
19:25 wizzyrea      the packages kind of need a dev mode :/
19:25 wizzyrea      but idk if they can actually work that way
19:26 hdl           wizzyrea: i think so too.
19:26 wizzyrea      it would be so sweet to be able to koha-build-testdb --reload-data --keep-old --reindex
19:26 wizzyrea      or something
19:26 hdl           yep.
19:27 jcamins       What's --keep-old do?
19:27 wizzyrea      makes a dump of the current DB, in case you want to go back to it
19:28 jcamins       Ah.
19:28 hdl           But it was chosen to do install with standard  install.
19:28 jcamins       Got it.
19:28 wizzyrea      you'd probably have to pass it a name, or it'd be generated with the timestamp
19:28 wizzyrea      or somesuch
19:29 jcamins       6 digit random alphanumeric.
19:29 wizzyrea      O.O masochist.
19:29 hdl           timestamp would be ok.
19:29 hdl           date +%F
19:29 jcamins       Timestamp seems much more painful.
19:30 jcamins       "Hey, Joe, which instance are we using for testing?"
19:30 jcamins       "123456789754"
19:30 wizzyrea      anyway
19:30 jcamins       It is a neat idea.
19:31 wizzyrea      you're right though, you would have to be able to do the packages in dev mode
19:31 wizzyrea      and there very well may be a reason not to do that
19:32 sekjal        wizzyrea:  track mysqldumps with git
19:32 jcamins       I'd be willing to bet that the Debian rules don't allow it.
19:32 sekjal        then use the commit ID as the unique identifier
19:32 wizzyrea      well there you go
19:33 sekjal        have the dump put each bit of data on a new line
19:33 sekjal        so changes can be tracked more easily
19:33 sekjal        put each table into it's own file
19:33 jcamins       sekjal: do you have the script for doing that?
19:33 sekjal        jcamins:  not yet
19:33 jcamins       sekjal: awww. ;)
19:34 sekjal        it's just a matter of time at this point
19:34 sekjal        but that would allow us to have different branches for different kinds of testing environments
19:34 sekjal        one for single libraries
19:34 sekjal        one for large consortia
19:34 sekjal        one for special libraries, etc etc etc
19:34 sekjal        checkout your preferred testing environment, load, and there you go
19:38 jcamins       That would be very useful.
19:38 oleonard      So, now that you've got it all worked out...
19:38 jcamins       Of course, just having a good set of test data would be very useful, and make it more likely that I would test things.
19:42 jcamins       (and presumably other people, too)
19:45 * oleonard    would love some robust serials data for testing
19:50 huginn        New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 4298] Title detail display: improve display of item level hold information <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4298>
19:54 wizzyrea      oleonard++ that's PERFECT.
19:54 wizzyrea      :D
19:55 wizzyrea      oh that's going to make our librarians much less confused.
19:55 oleonard      Cool.
19:58 wizzyrea      i just brought mickey in here -- if the man could squee, he would have.
19:58 cait          oh nice :)
19:58 cait          I was very confused by that! ask rangi :)
19:59 rangi         she was
20:00 cait          hehe
20:00 cait          a rangi appearance!
20:05 rangi         heh
20:16 oleonard      I am weekend.
20:53 rangi         http://www.ossblog.it/post/8129/koha-per-gestire-le-biblioteche-con-lopen-source-sotto-licenza-gpl
20:57 wizzyrea      :D
21:23 wizzyrea      haha I had forgotten about this page
21:23 wizzyrea      http://koha-community.org/support/search-bugs/
21:25 cait          Missing the nerd knobs? Try the advanced bug search. :)
21:25 bg            NateC?
21:25 wahanui       I LIKE SPACE AND MY WIFE
21:26 cait          :)
21:26 bg            hi cait
21:26 bg            yo wizzyrea
21:26 wizzyrea      whaddup
21:27 cait          hi bg :)
21:27 cait          bg?
21:27 wahanui       I LIKE BREAKFAST BURRITOS AND I LOVE BASEBALL
21:27 cait          wizzyrea?
21:27 wahanui       I LIKE BAO
21:27 cait          ??
21:27 rangi         heh
21:27 wizzyrea      mmmm delicious dumplings
21:28 wizzyrea      trea?
21:28 wahanui       trea is the support in the darkness. The watcher of the tickets. He is the fire that keeps errant cats happy, the light that brings code updates, the horn that wakes the devs, the shield that guards the realms of nerds.
21:28 wizzyrea      <3
21:28 rangi         heh
21:29 cait          :)
21:29 cait          rangi?
21:29 wahanui       I LIKE ALMONDS! HAVE SOME NUTS!
21:29 wizzyrea      i just completely lost my train of thought
21:29 wizzyrea      derailed at the station
21:29 jcamins       Dumplings are yummy?
21:30 wizzyrea      lol wtf was I doing
21:30 wizzyrea      bao = delicious chinese steamed buns
21:30 sekjal        anyone know a way to get Gitweb to show the log of all the commits between to points?
21:30 wizzyrea      i make them
21:30 wizzyrea      git log commitid commitid
21:30 wizzyrea      I think
21:30 wizzyrea      oh gitweb
21:30 wizzyrea      nm
21:30 sekjal        yes, a gitweb analog to that command
21:31 wizzyrea      sry >.> <.<
21:31 trea          oh hi
21:31 trea          i was...distracted and my ears started burning
21:31 wizzyrea      hello
21:35 wizzyrea      srsly, you guys need to check out the sexy new search we have on k-c.org
21:36 wizzyrea      "git" is a fun search
21:36 cait          i did
21:36 cait          it's awesome
21:36 wizzyrea      naw, the one on the sidebar
21:37 wizzyrea      or maybe that's the one
21:37 wizzyrea      you tried
21:37 wizzyrea      the one for the manual does *only* the manual
21:37 wizzyrea      the one for the lists does *only* the lists
21:37 wizzyrea      but this one does *.k-c.org/*
21:37 wizzyrea      so it'll go hunting everywhere
21:40 cait          ok
21:40 cait          even more awesome than I thought :)
21:45 rangi         you should email danielg
21:45 rangi         get that in the newsletter wizzyrea
21:45 wizzyrea      oh good point
21:46 wizzyrea      shift-refresh our page
21:46 wizzyrea      like or loathe the bigger font?
21:46 wizzyrea      try again, actually, caching
21:47 rangi         what am i loking at?
21:47 wizzyrea      things are bigger
21:47 wizzyrea      in the sidebar
21:47 wizzyrea      on the header
21:47 rangi         oh the resources
21:47 rangi         like it
21:48 rangi         but it does wrap
21:48 rangi         (the nav) on my netbook
21:48 wizzyrea      aha, that is useful feedback
21:48 wizzyrea      ty
21:48 rangi         newsletter is on its own line
21:49 wizzyrea      reload again, better?
21:49 rangi         yes
21:49 wizzyrea      whoot
21:50 wizzyrea      1.1 might have been *too* big ;)
21:52 rangi         :)
22:08 jenkins_koha  Starting build 430 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #428 19 h ago)
22:10 huginn        New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'kc/new/bug_6460' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6b9fff61fb7e96902c8d6afac906285bc1f4bb80> / Bug 6460: alternative fix, updating template and script instead of C4::Log <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a746e11c1462df4567c007c8e73cf14a55af5ddb>
22:30 huginn        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6870 [enh] - allow opac-userupdate.pl to use the patron's email as 'from' address <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0920d96767f1e366670e87b5d4275c5473595d52>
22:56 jenkins_koha  Project Koha_master build #430: STILL UNSTABLE in 48 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/430/
22:56 jenkins_koha  mjr: Bug 6460: alternative fix, updating template and script instead of C4::Log
22:56 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6460 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, januszop, ASSIGNED , No log generated if Action set to All or Modify or Delete
22:56 jenkins_koha  Starting build 431 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #428 20 h ago)
23:43 jenkins_koha  Project Koha_master build #431: STILL UNSTABLE in 47 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/431/
23:43 jenkins_koha  lrea: Bug 6870 [enh] - allow opac-userupdate.pl to use the patron's email as 'from' address
23:43 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6870 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, wizzyrea, ASSIGNED , [enh] allow opac-userupdate.pl to use the patron's email as 'from' address