Time Nick Message 20:24 cait hm 20:22 jcamins_away But if I had weekends I'd do things like leave the city. 20:21 jcamins_away No, I do. :) 20:21 cait you don't enjoy spending time with us? 20:21 cait aw 20:21 jcamins_away If I got weekends, I'd probably go rushing off to enjoy them too. 20:21 jcamins_away Not that I blame him. 20:20 cait yep 20:20 jcamins_away He sure does sign out quickly. 20:19 oleonard Happy weekend #koha 20:15 jcamins_away That's right, there was a redirect to access the direct MARC entry page in the first version. 20:13 jcamins_away Ah, yeah, definitely need to offer an alternative. 20:12 jcamins_away (and due to the authorities issue, I couldn't) 20:11 jcamins_away The only way I could justify the time to test it would be if I could actually use the feature for actual cataloging. 20:11 oleonard Besides needing the basic functionality tested, we still need a good way to offer both alternatives to the user 20:11 * jcamins_away thinks chances are not good for it getting into 3.6, then. 20:10 * oleonard thinks the ball is in jcamins_away's court ;) 20:10 oleonard I did a quick test, but nothing which could justify a signoff 20:09 oleonard No 20:09 jcamins_away Has that been committed yet? 20:07 cait :) 20:06 jcamins_away That would be glorious, too. 20:05 jcamins_away Or we'll have DOM indexing so that I don't need to worry about authorities, and I'll start using pianohacker's direct MARC interface. 20:05 cait hehe 20:05 jcamins_away One day I will have time to finish my simple cataloging interface, and it will be glorious. 19:57 jcamins_away I hit Alt-Space (I think), and it followed a link, erasing all my changes. 19:56 jcamins_away Ugh. This MARC editor. 19:52 jcamins_away Right. 19:51 andersonbd1 and if it's not - someone will explain why it's not there? 19:51 jcamins_away If it is one, and I presume it is since you're finding it problematic. 19:51 andersonbd1 ok - will do 19:51 jcamins_away Report a bug? 19:51 jcamins_away Ah. 19:51 andersonbd1 I would expect it to be <metadataNamespace>http://www.loc.gov/MARC21/slim</metadataNamespace> 19:50 andersonbd1 whoops - that last copy was wrong 19:50 andersonbd1 I would expect it to be <metadataNamespace>http://www.loc.gov/MARC21/slim http://www.loc.gov/ standards/marcxml/schema/MARC21slim</metadataNamespace> 19:50 jcamins_away (as opposed to the other MARC21 XML schema, I mean) 19:49 jcamins_away I don't know anything about OAI, but that sounds like the MARC21slim XML schema namespace? 19:48 andersonbd1 what's up with "<metadataNamespace>http://www.loc.gov/MARC21/slim http://www.loc.gov/ standards/marcxml/schema/MARC21slim</metadataNamespace>" ? 19:47 andersonbd1 ok - so now I go to http://ubuntu/cgi-bin/koha/oai.pl?verb=ListMetadataFormats and get http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=SU52snk3 19:45 andersonbd1 aha - thanks 19:44 jcamins_away I'm not 100% sure, but that just seems wrong, that OAI would be on the staff interface. 19:44 jcamins_away I think it should just be http://ubuntu/... 19:44 andersonbd1 am I using the right url for oai-pmh? do I need to configure it somehow? 19:44 jcamins_away That doesn't seem right to me. 19:43 andersonbd1 but I get a 404 19:43 jcamins_away rhcl: perhaps one day I'll take a speed reading course. I'm a pretty fast reader already. 19:43 andersonbd1 and then attempted this query: http://ubuntu:8080/cgi-bin/koha/oai.pl?verb=Identify 19:42 andersonbd1 I enabled oai-pmh here:http://ubuntu:8080/cgi-bin/koha/admin/preferences.pl?tab=web_services 19:42 andersonbd1 I'm up and running having just installed. I have no data or anything, but I wanted to see how koha acts as an oai-pmh repository because our project (eXtensible catalog) needs to be able to harvest from koha. 19:42 jcamins_away For class. 19:41 rhcl http://www.ewrd.com/ewrd/index.asp?gclid=CLrI4d_CoqsCFcsBQAodE2yG7w 19:41 cait why are you reading it? 19:40 jcamins_away Nope. 19:40 jcamins_away Otherwise finishing the 220 page book between yesterday and today would have been problematic, in light of the fact that I'm out pretty much all day both days. 19:40 rhcl can you read ocs? 19:40 jcamins_away rhcl: nope. Thankfully it's in English. 19:39 cait morning rangi 19:39 libsysguy afternoon indeed 19:38 rhcl afternoon 19:38 rangi morning 19:38 rhcl jcamins_away: are you reading it in old church slavonic? 19:32 jcamins_away It's pretty fast, thankfully. 19:31 cait very academic 19:31 cait sounds.... 19:30 jcamins_away I would love to bake tonight, but unfortunately I have to read the other half of this book on the sons of parish priests in late Imperial Russia. 19:29 wahanui libsysguy: i don't know 19:29 libsysguy wahanui can you tell us a story? 19:29 * libsysguy takes a cookie 19:28 jcamins_away Mmm. 19:28 cait so silent for a friday 19:28 * cait puts a bowl of cookies in the middle of #koha 18:59 cait perhaps transports are a problem? 18:59 cait returning from there and holds got picked up 18:59 cait I was doing that a lot lately 18:59 cait hm holds without trnasports seems to work nice 18:58 wahanui libsysguy: huh? 18:58 libsysguy wahanui: this time bad 18:58 wahanui well, interesting is sometimes bad or sometimes good 18:58 libsysguy interesting 18:58 libsysguy ohh...hmm 18:57 sekjal probably because of a lack of message processing, rather than a different subroutine 18:57 sekjal libsysguy: not sure; I just know that it doesn't handle holds properly 18:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3514 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, kyle.m.hall, ASSIGNED , Returning items through patron Details tab doesn't activate all circulation functions 18:57 oleonard Bug 3514 18:56 libsysguy hey sekjal is there a different function for check in if you do the checkbox from the patrons account? 18:09 jcamins_away I think someone in the printing house sat there laughing gleefully as he came up with ways to stump future bibliographers. 18:08 libsysguy too bad my fix didn't work like it was supposed to :'( 18:07 sekjal libsysguy: yay! 17:54 libsysguy that fixed it sekjal++ 17:48 jcamins_away And, for those of you questioning my conclusions, I checked, and the text does not match that of the 1553 edition. 17:43 sekjal libsysguy: that would bring all the subroutines in C4/Overdues into C4/Circulation.... probably okay, but not worth the CPU cycles 17:43 jcamins_away The text was re-set line-for-line. 17:43 libsysguy but that is not recommended 17:42 libsysguy oh yeah becuase I could do qw(:all) 17:42 jcamins_away oleonard-away: I know! And that's not even the most shocking discovery! 17:42 libsysguy ohh gotcha 17:42 sekjal libsysguy: then you need "use C4::Overdues qw(CalcFine);" instead of just "use C4::Overdues;" 17:41 libsysguy CalcFine() 17:41 jcamins_away Plates are printed off of a single metal plate, and I'm using page as an abbreviation for "pages of letterpress printed text." 17:41 sekjal libsysguy: are you invoking it as CalcFine(), or C4::Overdues::CalcFine() 17:39 libsysguy what is the difference between a plate and a page 17:38 * oleonard-away does a spit-take all over his monitor!!1 17:38 libsysguy what a twist 17:38 libsysguy OMG! 17:37 jcamins_away libsysguy_lunchage: I know you've been waiting with bated breath to hear about the number of pages in this book, so here's the conclusion: they're two different books. 17:34 libsysguy_lunchage So I am trying to call CalcFine from the circulation module...i added use Overdues; but I still get an error that it is an undef subroutine 17:12 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6321] Add a 1/4 month frequency <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6321> 17:00 cait hi rhcl 17:00 rhcl hi cait 16:59 cait hi #koha 16:28 jcamins_away 85 plates in this copy. So the first copy is missing two. 16:26 jcamins_away Bah. Better count again. 16:26 jcamins_away 84 plates? 16:22 * jcamins_away pulls out the other copy. 16:22 jcamins_away I count 83 plates in this copy. 16:19 oleonard We all talk to him no matter what, being away doesn't do him any good. 16:19 bencahill hehe 16:19 jcamins_away bencahill: I'm liable to disappear suddenly, so I'm not changing my nick. 16:18 * bencahill thinks jcamins_away's nick is deceptively deceptive :-P 16:18 libsysguy geez...I hope you are in a clean room with a book that old 16:17 jcamins_away Enea Vico's Omnium Caesarum... 1554. 16:17 libsysguy ohh yeah you do really old books right 16:17 jcamins_away libsysguy: not on books like this. 16:17 libsysguy there are generally numbers located at the top/bottom for that jcamins_away 16:16 * jcamins_away is currently trying to determine how many pages are in this book. 16:16 libsysguy exactly...you guys are the only ones I talk to all day 16:15 oleonard It's as if my office-mates didn't show up to work. 16:15 * oleonard is always sad when #koha is quiet 16:14 * libsysguy is now sad 16:14 jcamins_away Maybe this is so that you won't keep on neglecting your job. :P 16:14 oleonard In the /secret/ channel 16:14 libsysguy aww 16:14 oleonard We're all at a party you weren't invited to :P 16:14 libsysguy but I most certainly did not 16:13 libsysguy I was afraid I missed something 16:13 jcamins_away Sure has been quiet. 16:13 * jcamins_away looks through the scrollback. 16:13 jcamins_away Fridays often are. 16:12 libsysguy its so quiet in here today 15:43 reiveune bye 15:37 Danielle You too, kf! 15:36 kf have a nice weekend all! 15:35 Danielle slef: Cape Hatteras, North Carolina. 15:28 slef Danielle: nice pic. Wheresit? 14:54 Danielle rhcl: Thanks. 14:47 rhcl cool pic 14:21 magnuse nice 14:20 Danielle I'm at work but my mind is on vacation, specifically, here: http://whitrel.com/OBX-2010/resize-DSC_1630.JPG 14:20 magnuse my, it's been quiet here today ;-) 14:11 kf hi slef 14:06 Danielle o/ 13:44 * slef checks in, peels off the cycling gear and goes to get lunch. Hi all. 12:44 oleonard I like the "word-diff" option included here: http://mislav.uniqpath.com/2010/07/git-tips/ 12:32 kf side_effects++ :) 12:32 kf magnuse: that or you are missing the permission 12:15 magnuse and let me just say it's awesome that there are suggestions for norwegian translations! a side effect of my "gratis" offer... ;-) 12:12 magnuse kf: thanks a lot. i stil don't see those links, but maybe it's because i have reviewed all the suggestions... 11:43 kf [off] http://opac.bsz-bw.de/koha_temp/review_suggestions.png 11:42 kf magnuse: I made a screenshot for you 11:41 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6874] File upload in MARC <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6874> 11:23 magnuse nope, can't see it 11:20 magnuse ? 11:20 magnuse is it in the long list that starts "acronyms" etc 11:19 magnuse hm, no 11:19 kf found it? 11:19 kf for each file 11:19 kf or links 11:19 kf there is a link 11:18 kf check the review tab 11:18 kf yeah 11:18 magnuse in pootle - is there a way to see just the suggestions others have made, so i can accept them? 11:16 libsysguy heck yes it can...I have started neglecting my job to develop for it...which is acceptable for the librarians mind you 11:15 libsysguy ^^ 11:15 kf koha can keep you pretty busy... 11:14 magnuse hehe 11:14 paul_p magnuse, yep, he wanted to write novels since a long time, and has found time ... only after leaving BibLibre ;-) 11:13 libsysguy because apache was going crazy on that box but when I put up my backup it was fine 11:13 libsysguy and I'm wondering if there are any known apache venerabilities that they could have used 11:12 libsysguy it looks like they didn't get it but had been trying to bruteforce their way through root literally all day 11:12 libsysguy So my webserver came under attack yesterday from a botnet which consequently took it down 11:08 magnuse wow, did y'all know nicomo is an author? http://www.amazon.com/M%C3%A9moire-vive-r%C3%A9cits-num%C3%A9riques-ebook/dp/B005LB7AII/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1316068787&sr=8-1 10:58 kf i think at bigger conferences it gets a bit better - people make appoitnments to talk about things when speeches are running or plan for free slots to visit the booths 10:48 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6025] Script to recreate entries in the statistics table from the issues and oldissues table <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6025> 10:06 magnuse it's weird to be "on show", but good to get your name and the koha logo "out there" 10:05 magnuse yeah, i have done it twice (first time was with nicomo), and that description sounds very familiar ;-) 10:04 paul_p in fact, this kind of conference is the place where we *must* be, otherwise ppl are wondering "why are they not here, does it mean they are no more interested by us ?" and, OTH, it's not the place where you do real business, you just have lot of contacts... 10:02 paul_p magnuse, hi. The conference is going smoothly, thanks. Strange to have a booth at a conference : you have a lot of time where ppl are listening speech, and suddenly, 200 person arrive, and they have 20mn to discuss before the next speech 09:50 magnuse kia ora paul_p - how's the conference(?) going? 09:35 magnuse yup 09:27 kf rugby? 09:13 magnuse 52-0?!? 08:40 magnuse yup, hacking away... 08:40 kf lots of new entries in your blog! 08:40 kf god morgen magnuse ) 08:38 magnuse guten morgen kf 08:28 kf morning #koha :) 08:23 magnuse nz 12 jp 0. oops 07:30 reiveune hello 07:08 magnuse 51 kohacon12 votes so far - keep'em coming! http://survey.web2learning.net/limesurvey/index.php?sid=63529 06:56 magnuse is this community half day at biblibre? 06:55 magnuse bonjour francharb and #koha 06:55 francharb hello all 06:18 cait bonjour alex_a 06:17 cait hope it heals well 06:17 cait :( 06:16 kmkale huge cast. comes off on 26th to be replaced by a smaller cast which will allow me to move about. 06:15 alex_a bonjour ! 06:15 cait how is your arm? 06:15 cait hi kmkale 06:11 kmkale hi rangi cait eythian :) 06:06 rangi heya, how much sleep? 06:05 cait morning rangi 06:05 rangi man town is busy tonight 05:57 eythian only a 4.3 05:57 eythian http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/5639485/Earthquake-jolts-Wellington 05:57 cait have fun 05:57 cait so it was not that bad I guess 05:57 cait ok 05:57 eythian but some people here did 05:57 eythian I didn't feel it 05:57 eythian yeah, apparently 05:57 * eythian goes back to it after seeing if an email had arrived. 05:57 cait eq in wellington today? 05:56 eythian cait: it's beer o'clock. Everyone is doing their duty respecting that. 05:54 cait morning #koha 04:47 phlunk3 thanks anyways, going to run out so I can get home early and drink before watching the rugby :) have a good weekend everyone. 04:34 phlunk3 Hi everyone, I feel stupid having to ask this sorry, but how on earth do I change an admin accounts password in the system? 03:47 ted I guess this is because my MARC records are in MARC-8 instead of UTF-8? 03:46 ted Hi, in my installation sometimes searches fail with 'utf8 "\xC3" does not map to Unicode' (koha n00b) 02:49 eythian bencahill: you can ask someone if they're around, but it'd be easier to use git 02:15 bencahill can I submit a request for a change in the docs? I don't use git... 02:00 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'kc/new/enh/bug_4877' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=147ae6c665cd25a07471d90afcab3e38ce36d9e0> / Bug 4877 [ENH] [SIGNED-OFF] install generated man pages with build process <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9d3a8d98651c922a5cc68356cfb1adec58d46f82> / Bug 4877 [ENH] Use DocBook for koha-common manual pages <http://git.k 01:12 bencahill s/is that/should that be/ 01:12 bencahill or is that, "will have access to the staff client, if they have sufficient permissions." ? 01:11 bencahill mtj: "Patrons within the staff category will have access to the staff client." 01:11 bencahill mtj: was confused by this: http://koha-community.org/documentation/3-4-manual-en/?ch=x4453#patcats 01:11 mtj patron type is simply for general classification 01:10 bencahill coolio 01:10 mtj just user perms , afaik 01:09 bencahill mtj: does being in a category with the Staff type matter, or is it just user permissions that determines whether a patron can log in to the staff client or not? 01:08 bencahill mtj: awesome, thanks :) 01:04 mtj bencahill, user permissions 00:59 bencahill hey guys, I changed a patron to be in a category with the Staff type, but still can't log in to the staff client...is there something else I need to do? 00:29 chris_n2 and wonders if its been a month already 00:28 * chris_n2 announces 3.4.x string freeze for 3.4.5