Time Nick Message 00:47 Emery Anyone can help me? 00:48 Emery Hello? 00:55 Emery Anyone can help me? 00:55 Emery Hello? 01:03 Soupermanito !anyone 01:03 Soupermanito oh this is not freenode XD 01:03 Soupermanito ask your question, if someone knows they will probably answer 01:05 Emery ok 01:05 Emery i need help installing koha, from 3. something to 4. something 01:05 Emery when i go make 01:05 Emery then make test 01:05 Emery it says STATUS FAILED 01:45 lastnode hi koha 01:45 lastnode #koha 04:29 Brooke wahanui butter? 04:29 wahanui wish i knew, brooke 07:13 rangi no wonder emery was having problems there is no koha 4.something 08:06 jenkins_koha Starting build 401 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #385 16 j ago) 08:09 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6121: follow-up = using overloo instead of reserveloo <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f6d3cb05dde6f7e8e9f25a1c4c547e414bbf2d76> / Bug 6121: Holds awaiting pickup <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b2138a7ec64dead316286df4a822bf89d051f4cb> 08:21 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6722: [SIGNED-OFF] Cause build output to appear on the screen <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a57b692a60947569e57b26862c17d517bf461128> 08:31 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 4877 [ENH] - [SIGNED-OFF] more man page improvements <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6534b5cf29ea044f405af976447fe67262780a0d> / Bug 4877 [ENH] - Update man page for koha-create <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1c6cdaf162591892cc8a4318044482563fe47bdc> / Bug 6516 - Make borrowernumber of staff user configurable in koha-create <http://git.koha-community.org 08:50 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #401: STILL UNSTABLE in 44 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/401/ 08:50 jenkins_koha * christophe.croullebois: Bug 6121: Holds awaiting pickup 08:50 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 6121: follow-up = using overloo instead of reserveloo 08:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6121 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , waitingreserves: branchname instead of branch code 08:51 jenkins_koha Starting build 402 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #385 16 j ago) 08:51 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Updating history and about file <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9e9326671426dbd41384a70d7e59c27632c890a3> 09:34 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #402: STILL UNSTABLE in 43 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/402/ 09:34 jenkins_koha * robin: Bug 6722: [SIGNED-OFF] Cause build output to appear on the screen 09:34 jenkins_koha * magnus: Bug 6516 - Make borrowernumber of staff user configurable in koha-create 09:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6722 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, ASSIGNED , build-git-snapshot output doesn't show up on the screen 09:34 jenkins_koha * magnus: Bug 4877 [ENH] - Update man page for koha-create 09:34 jenkins_koha * robin: Bug 4877 [ENH] - [SIGNED-OFF] more man page improvements 09:34 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Updating history and about file 09:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6516 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, magnus, ASSIGNED , koha-create makes assumptions about borrowernumber of staff user 09:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4877 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, magnus, NEW , koha-* scripts have no manual pages 10:44 cait hi #koha 11:01 rangi hi cait 11:01 cait hi rangi :) 11:01 rangi 153 now 11:04 cait hm? 11:04 cait oh 11:04 cait contributors? 11:04 cait going up fast 11:05 rangi yup 11:05 cait :) 11:06 rangi 63 ppl contributed in 2009, 67 in 2010, and already 78 in 2011 11:06 cait whohoo :) 11:07 cait stats like that are great :) 11:08 rangi 59 in 2008 11:15 cait we are doing pretty good 11:15 cait I would think 11:18 rangi yup 11:22 cait :) 15:08 lastnode if im mailing koha@lists.katipo (koha general), is it ok if I introduce myself and send a list of questions i have regarding an upcoming deployment of koha? 15:09 cait sounds ok to me 15:10 cait perhaps you want to ask questions about different things in more than one mail 15:10 cait a long list of questions might be a bit difficult to answer 15:10 lastnode ok 15:10 cait make sure you include information about what version you are planning to use and hardware and such - make it easy for people to answer :) 15:11 lastnode i was thinking more like hi, this is me, this is my planned setup. is my plan feasible/robust, am i safe? 15:11 lastnode yes, id be sure to do that 15:21 lastnode also, technical question - in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/mysitname i see #TransferLog and #RewriteLog both commented out (for OPAC and Intranet). if i want access log i assume i have to uncomment #TransferLog on both? 15:21 lastnode i just noticed that koha hits werent being written to /etc/apache2/access.log 15:22 lastnode are they being written somewhere else and I just cant find it? 15:29 cait there are logs under var/logs to 15:29 cait too 15:29 cait not sue about the packages setup 15:29 cait for a dev installation it's koha-dev/var/logs/ 15:30 lastnode cait: yes there are logs in /var/log/koha/sitename/ 15:30 wahanui Hmm. No matches for that, lastnode. 15:30 lastnode but only intranet-error.log and opac-error.log 15:30 lastnode the #TransferLog and #Rewritelog are both commented out 15:31 lastnode wahanui: didn't follow you, mate 15:31 wahanui lastnode: huh? 15:31 cait lastnode: wahanui is our bot :) 15:31 lastnode doh 15:32 cait don't get confused by him 15:32 lastnode yeah ive been told thatbefore 15:32 lastnode please ignore me 15:32 lastnode is it sentient? 15:32 lastnode it spoke to me first, to be fair 15:32 cait he reacts to his name and question marks 15:32 cait lastnode? 15:33 cait ah, has no info about you 15:33 cait rangi? 15:33 wahanui I LIKE ALMONDS! HAVE SOME NUTS! 15:33 lastnode cait? 15:33 wahanui well, cait is kf or a programmer or really sweet or a source of great chocolate or the purveyor of an infinite supply of virtual cookies or not sure we need the page(s)... but that might just be me 15:33 lastnode lol 15:33 cait hehe 15:33 cait you are an english teacher from sri lanka, right? 15:34 lastnode yes 15:34 cait lastnode is an english teacher from sri lanka 15:34 cait lastnode? 15:34 wahanui rumour has it lastnode is an english teacher from sri lanka 15:34 cait :) 15:34 cait he learns with is/are 15:34 cait you can add facts with is also / are also 15:34 lastnode nice 15:35 cait wahanui botsnack cookie 15:35 wahanui :) 17:10 em Hello 17:11 em i need help 17:11 em really bad 17:12 em i need help 17:13 rangi what with em? we cant read minds 17:13 em ok 17:13 em when i do make test 17:14 rangi what version of koha are u installing? 17:14 em 4.2 17:14 em just a sec 17:14 rangi thats not koha 17:14 em it says something like table does not exist at ... 17:14 rangi the latest version of koha is 3.4.4 17:14 em i got the liblime one 17:14 rangi yes, thats not koha, we cant help you with that here 17:14 rangi http://koha-community.org/ 17:15 em oh 17:15 em ok, should i download koha then? 17:15 rangi that is their fork, its over 2 years worth of differences 17:15 rangi if you want koha, then yes :) 17:15 em hmm, 17:16 em what is the diffrence? is koha liblime better? 17:16 rangi no its not 17:16 em ok 17:16 em can you stay till i get koha? 17:16 rangi no, i am going back to sleep, it is 5am 17:17 em o 17:17 em ok 17:17 rangi but read the INSTALL file that comes with it, especially the upgrade section 17:17 em ok 17:17 * rangi goes back to bed 17:17 em have fun 17:30 em :D 17:30 em i get it work :D 17:31 cait em: 4.2? 17:31 jcamins_away em: oops. If I'd realized you had downloaded the LibLime version, I would've told you where to get Koha. 17:31 em lol, thats okay :), also, incase you need to help future people.... 17:31 em i can tell you how to find your passwords if you want ? 17:31 jcamins_away Sorry about that. I figured you meant Koha 3.4. 17:32 jcamins_away em: yeah, that would be helpful to know, since I don't use the livecd. 17:32 em ok 17:32 em they are all in the koha-conf.xml file , i dont know where it is, you just search 17:33 jcamins_away Ah, yeah, that was going to be my next suggestion, when I was back at a computer. 17:33 em well, i got it to work now :) 17:33 jcamins_away Good! 17:33 em yes 17:34 em i am on the web installer paret :) 17:34 em watch this brake :D, with my luck it will :D 17:36 em question, why is there 2 koha's ? 17:38 jcamins_away There isn't. 17:38 jcamins_away There's Koha, and there's LibLime's software. 17:38 jcamins_away Koha is an open source project. 17:38 em oh, liblime isn't? 17:39 jcamins_away LibLime is one company that used to support the software created by the Koha project. 17:39 jcamins_away At some point, they "forked" the project, and started working on their own version of the software. 17:39 jcamins_away That's what they called Harley. 17:40 em ah, so they copyed the code an changed some things, and make money from support? 17:40 jcamins_away Then they changed the name from "Harley" to "LibLime Koha 4.2," I guess because "Koha" is an awesome name, and "Harley" makes people think of motorcycles. ;) 17:40 jcamins_away Right. 17:41 em lol 17:41 em wow 17:41 em they are abusing the open source part 17:41 jcamins_away Yes they are. 17:41 em thats sad 17:42 jcamins_away The Koha project is still very active developing Koha, though, and that's the important thing. :) 17:42 em :D 17:44 em koha should make note that liblme is not apart of koha, as i thought because liblime had 4.2 , it was better, but i was reading instrucintions to download from koha's manual :O 17:45 cait documentation? 17:45 wahanui hmmm... documentation is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/ 17:45 cait the links in this documentaiton should be right 17:45 cait we can't influence the content that is displayed at koha.org domain 17:45 jcamins_away Usually people on #koha remember to check that you're using Koha and not LibLime's software. 17:46 em yeah, but i didn't :D 17:46 jcamins_away em: I mean, if you had been on at a different time, someone other than me would have asked you. 17:46 em lol, true 17:46 em another question 17:47 em if i use aws.amazon.com for images, does it cost me money? 17:47 cait no 17:47 cait amazon and google content are free, but you have to register at amazon 17:48 em ok 17:48 jcamins_away If you're using EC2, you'll have to pay whatever the hosting fees are. 17:48 jcamins_away Never mind. 17:48 jcamins_away Listen to cait. 17:48 em because there is a payment section on aws.amazon .com 17:48 cait hehe 17:48 jcamins_away I misunderstood your question. 17:48 cait you can get money from it 17:48 cait if people follow your links and buy books 17:48 jcamins_away It's completely free. I thought you meant running a server on Amazon. 17:48 cait they give you money for it 17:49 cait i think that's what the payment section is for you are talking about :) 17:49 em oh 17:49 em alot has changed since i last used koha 17:49 em especily in the opac 17:49 cait positive or negative? 17:49 cait I hope positive :) 17:50 em postive, alot :) 17:50 em you can make it so people cant return books on self checkout 17:50 em i thought that was very retarted before 17:51 em you just click a button to "Return" your book, ?!?!?!?!?!?! 17:52 em i also found a bug :o 17:52 em or an operator error :o 17:53 cait we are talking about web self check? 17:54 em no 17:54 em about opac 17:54 em do you want to here it? 17:54 cait it's ok - but the return thing is web self check I think :) 17:54 em yes it is 17:55 em i found a compleate diffrent bug :o 17:55 cait I am all ears :) 17:55 em ok 17:56 em on opac settings, if you make it NO RENEW on the opac, there is an option if you have it enabbled where if they have more then ____ in fines, they cant renew, even if you have renew on opac turrend off, if they have more then that amount in fines, it will say on there account "You have more then _____ in fines, you can not renew online" 17:57 cait not sure i can follow 17:57 em ok 17:57 em on opac 17:57 em there is 2 options 17:57 em (admin) 17:58 em 1 of them, asks if you can let people renew online via.(opac) 17:58 em the other, says If the person goes over ___ in fines, then they cant renew online 17:59 em if you put the option to disable online renewing via. opac 17:59 em and the person on opac goes over ___ in fines, it will say "You cannont renew online because you have more then ___ in fines 17:59 em even if they cant anyway 18:00 cait oh 18:00 em got it now? :D 18:00 cait but why would you set the amount when you don#t allow renewals in general? 18:00 cait I think you would leave it empty 18:01 em ok 18:01 em if you set it to nothing 18:01 em it says, 18:01 em YOU HAVE OVER 0.00 in fines, you canot renew online 18:02 cait hm 18:02 cait that's a bit weird 18:02 jcamins_away I think that may be the default error message. 18:02 jcamins_away There's a bug for it. 18:02 jcamins_away Somewhere. 18:02 em ok 18:03 jcamins_away Not sure how to find it... you could report another one, and if anyone finds the old one, they'll mark it as a duplicate. 18:03 jcamins_away That'd probably be best. 18:03 em ok, how would i report it? 18:04 jcamins_away http://bugs.koha-community.org/ 18:05 jcamins_away bugs? 18:05 wahanui bugs are everwhere eeek :) 18:05 jcamins_away wahanui: forget bugs 18:05 wahanui jcamins_away: I forgot bugs 18:05 jcamins_away bugs are at http://bugs.koha-community.org/ 18:05 cait rofl 18:05 jcamins_away bugs? 18:05 wahanui bugs are at http://bugs.koha-community.org/ 18:05 jcamins_away Better. 18:05 em lol, ok 18:06 em i will, if i get round to it :) 18:07 em can you add book images manuly, without going through google? 18:08 em or amazon, etc. 18:08 jcamins_away No. 18:08 cait no, currently it's not possible 18:08 em :( thats poopey 18:09 em hey, i got a prob 18:09 em lem 18:10 em in opac, it says on all searches, even if the book exists, it says no results found 18:10 em and in staff client 18:11 em it finds it by barcode in check in, but no searches 18:11 jcamins_away Sounds like a problem with Zebra. 18:11 jcamins_away searching faq? 18:11 wahanui i guess searching faq is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/searching/ 18:11 jcamins_away ^^ try the suggestions on that page. 18:11 em i have not done anything to zebra, should i? 18:11 em oj 18:11 em h 18:11 em oh 18:12 em how do i re-index zebra? 18:12 cait there is a job for that 18:12 cait have you set up your cronjobs= 18:12 cait ? 18:12 em i dont think so 18:12 cait is zebrasrv running? 18:13 em ahhhhhhhhhhhhh 18:13 em i dont know what your talking about 18:13 cait are you using zebra? 18:13 em yes 18:13 cait ok 18:13 cait check the install files for zebrasrv and the cronjobs 18:13 cait you need to run the rebuild_zebra script with -z as cronjob 18:13 em ? 18:14 cait it's in the manual :) 18:14 em ok 18:14 em what one? 18:14 wahanui somebody said one was readyish, it has had qa and some feedback provided, if you wanted to respond to the questions in that feedback then that branch could be merged 18:14 em im confused 18:15 em someone intrested in a step by step walk with me? 18:15 em i'll take that as a no? 18:16 jcamins_away documentation? 18:16 wahanui documentation is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/ 18:16 jcamins_away ^^ that manual 18:16 em ok 18:17 cait and ignore wahanui - he is a bot 18:17 cait or not ignore him, but don't wonder about strange comments :) 18:17 em lol, k 18:17 em will he talk to me if i say his name? 18:19 em i looked in the manual, and you dont know how confused i am 18:19 em i wouldn't even know where to type it in even if i knew how ... :s 18:20 em 18:20 jcamins_away em: try running the following: 18:20 em where? 18:20 jcamins_away rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -r -v 18:20 jcamins_away Just in the terminal. 18:20 em ok 18:20 jcamins_away You'll have to locate rebuild_zebra.pl. 18:21 em ok, thats what i ment :) 18:21 em searching ... 18:22 em found, going there ... 18:23 em there 18:23 em entering code ... 18:23 em command not found 18:23 em rebuild_zebra.pl 18:24 em should it be, PERL rebuild_zebra.PL -b -a -r -v ? 18:24 jcamins_away Don't capitlize anything in the command. 18:25 em ok, it broke 18:25 em when i used perl 18:25 jcamins_away What error messages did you get? 18:25 em errcode 109 18:25 em could not select database 18:25 em permission denied 18:26 em should i go sudo -s 18:26 jcamins_away Hm. 18:26 jcamins_away I have no idea what the error means. 18:26 em i tried again with sudo, it worked 18:27 em search still broken 18:27 em what about crontabs? 18:27 jcamins_away Read the file INSTALL.debian. 18:27 jcamins_away It explains all the steps for setting Zebra up. 18:28 em i am not on debian 18:28 em should i still read it? 18:30 jcamins_away Yes. 18:30 jcamins_away You're on Ubuntu, which is almost the same thing. 18:30 em ok 18:32 em it says zebra server already running 18:36 em HELP! 18:36 jcamins_away I'm out of ideas, sorry. 18:36 jcamins_away I always install Koha from scratch, and it just works. 18:37 em i know, but i have no idea how to do this 18:37 jcamins_away Nor do I. 18:37 em hmm 18:37 jcamins_away None of the suggestions in the FAQ I sent you helped? 18:37 em not really, it just tells you what to do, not how 18:41 em hmm 18:41 jcamins_away You might want to consider hiring a Koha support vendor- administering Koha does require a base level of comfort with Linux. 18:41 em uhh, $$$ = 0$ 18:41 jcamins_away Yeah, that's unfortunate. 18:41 em yep 18:41 em hmm 18:42 em i just need to install crontabs 18:42 em zebra has been re-indexed 18:42 em and search still broken 18:43 jcamins_away If search is broken, then the problem isn't with cron. 18:43 em ok 18:43 jcamins_away The cron job is only needed for *new* records. 18:43 em oh 18:44 em i have no records 18:44 jcamins_away So if you're getting no results, there's another issue, which I don't think I can offer any help with. 18:44 em then i made 1 18:44 jcamins_away You might have more luck on #koha if you are around during business hours, not on a holiday weekend. 18:44 em that is here, right? 18:45 em hmm, okay 18:45 em will come back on tuesday 18:45 em bye 18:46 jcamins_away Right. That might be a good idea. 18:46 em ok 19:14 rangi i suspect he didnt read the UPGRADE part of the INSTALL file, like i said to :) 19:14 rangi and wont have run the remove items from marc script, and done a complete reindex 19:15 rangi we really should do a live cd, built with the packages, then these upgrades would be a lot easier 19:15 rangi seems silly using ubuntu or debian on a livecd and not the packages to me :) 19:17 rangi and morning 19:17 jcamins_away Agreed. 19:17 jcamins_away Morning. 19:33 cait morning rangi 20:42 rangi hmmm 20:42 cait hmm? 20:47 ibeardslee http://grooveshark.com/#/s/Things+That+Make+You+Go+Hmmm/48pzFW?src=5 ? 20:48 rangi heh 21:41 sijobl hmm 21:50 cait hmm? 21:50 cait first rangi and now sijobl ... 21:51 sijobl stray un /msg'd hmm 21:51 jcamins_away Hmmmm. 21:51 jcamins_away :D 21:51 sijobl I was berating rangi for his colleague's inability to make their code available, and licensed correctly 21:51 sijobl turns out I was completely wrong on both counts 21:52 sijobl which is not altogether unusual 21:52 jcamins_away Yay! Open source++ 22:07 cait hmmm 22:47 eythian sijobl: which code? 22:47 wahanui which code are you referring to ? 22:58 eythian wahanui: germs 22:58 wahanui Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world. 22:58 eythian tee hee 23:13 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5459] merging records loses holds from one <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5459> 23:37 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6555] only 10 lists in pull down when adding from a bib record <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6555>