Time Nick Message 00:14 rangi http://blogs.gnome.org/bolsh/2011/09/01/the-cost-of-going-it-alone/ 00:16 druthb Hi, LBA! 00:16 eythian rangi: hey, you're scooping my talk, stop it :) 00:16 rangi francois started it 00:17 rangi :) 00:17 eythian http://twelvesouth.com/products/bookbook/ 00:48 mtj heya folks... 00:48 rangi heya mtj 00:48 mtj wow! fascinating read there 00:49 mtj and so perfectly fitting for the Koha project 00:51 mtj "Do NOT fall into the trap of adding more and more stuff to an out-of-tree project. It just makes it harder and harder to get it merged.There are many examples of this." 00:51 mtj a choice quote 00:53 rangi yup 00:56 mtj amazing to read about dev and integrating problems on that big level 01:24 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Revert "Bug 5630 CAS improvements" <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e8f654fcd206a98ad1a9222e17bffe2bdb32747d> 01:36 jenkins_koha Starting build 397 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #385 14 j ago) 02:10 sekjal good <localtime>, #koha! 02:14 rangi heya sekjal 02:14 sekjal hey, rangi 02:14 rangi its 2 hours from beer oclock time here 02:14 rangi cepting its juice oclock for me today 02:14 sekjal still sick? 02:14 rangi codeine and beer dont mix in a happy way :) 02:14 sekjal no 02:14 sekjal no they don't 02:15 sekjal having some tea while I work on this serials migration 02:15 rangi ahh serials 02:15 rangi always tricky 02:15 sekjal I see you pulled the fix for bug 5630 02:15 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5630 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , CAS improvements 02:15 rangi well i pulled the whole thing 02:16 rangi your fix was fine 02:16 rangi but marcel discovered more was broken, including it was changing the way search history was stored 02:16 sekjal ah, yeah, then it had to go 02:17 sekjal I should have come up with a more aggressive test plan 02:17 rangi i shoulda tested harder too 02:17 sekjal I thought that would have been sufficient 02:17 rangi still, one revert .. not too bad 02:17 rangi 2 months to go, but i think we are doing ok so far :) 02:17 sekjal and I still can't explain why Paul got LDAP results just fine, but my server erred 02:17 rangi im picking not testing on master 02:18 sekjal I'm having a hard time seeing how it could have been any other way.... 02:18 rangi yup 02:18 sekjal are there any kind of Perl settings that would automatically import subroutines, without changing the code itself? 02:19 sekjal some kind of "import everything" default? 02:19 rangi not that i know of 02:20 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #397: STILL UNSTABLE in 44 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/397/ 02:20 jenkins_koha Chris Cormack: Revert "Bug 5630 CAS improvements" 02:20 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5630 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , CAS improvements 02:33 sekjal rangi: did you see Tara Robertson's post to the Evergreen list about sharing serials prediction patterns? 02:33 rangi ah yeah 02:34 rangi im hoping to use the hackfest at access 02:34 rangi to brainstorm around that some more, since she will be there, and lots of evergreeners 02:34 rangi it would be sweet to be able to share 02:34 sekjal one of the things I did for this serials migration was create a bunch of config files for representing various frequencies in Koha 02:34 sekjal bimonthly, annually, 5xyear, etc 02:34 rangi ohhh cool 02:35 sekjal it's Koha specific, but it might be a start in the right direction towards reusability 02:35 rangi *nod* 02:44 rangi heya kmkale and trea 02:44 trea well hey 02:45 kmkale Namaskar rangi & trea 02:45 trea hi kmkale 03:29 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6738] can't see funds as superlibrarian <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6738> 03:41 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6834] $template->{param_map} is deprecated with the introduction of Template::Toolkit <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6834> 04:45 cait morning #koha 04:52 bg heya cait 04:52 cait morning bg 05:14 cait bg: silent here at this time :) 05:20 * sekjal makes some noise on his way out....back in a couple hours 05:21 francharb morning #koha 05:22 rangi germs? 05:22 wahanui Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world. 05:22 rangi Hehe 05:22 cait bye sekjal 05:22 cait did you what I asked you to do? or just laugh? :) 05:23 rangi I did this 05:23 rangi germs? 05:23 wahanui Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world. 05:24 rangi good old eythian 05:24 rangi oh hey cait 05:24 cait hey rangi 05:24 rangi I fixed a couple of acq bugs 05:24 cait I see it :) 05:25 cait how was juice o clock? 05:25 rangi orangey 05:26 cait hehe 05:26 rangi but there was raspberry buns so thats ok 05:26 cait any sign-off recommendation to start the day with? 05:26 cait ah, i have a nice one, bug 6750 05:26 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6750 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, NEW , Guarantor search broken on translated templates 05:27 rangi oh those 2 patches I sent 05:27 rangi very very easy 05:27 rangi and that one is good too 05:28 rangi actually maybe leave my ones for a new person 05:28 cait I will try :) 05:29 rangi :) 05:29 cait and the germs thing is not nice 05:29 rangi you really need to watch that movie 05:31 cait I have 05:31 rangi its pretty neat how they did it all and absolutely none of it is true 05:32 rangi there was a show here, the unauthorised history of nz 05:32 rangi which was like that 05:32 rangi all made up 05:33 cait perhaps I should watch that to counter the germs 05:34 rangi Hehe 05:34 rangi ill post you one when I get home 05:36 cait bug 6750 - signed off! 05:36 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6750 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, NEW , Guarantor search broken on translated templates 05:38 rangi ok my stop bbl 06:06 alex_a hello 06:14 cait hi alex_a :) 06:15 alex_a hello cait 06:43 reiveune hello 06:43 wahanui hey, reiveune 06:45 magnus_afk kia ora, #koha! 07:00 reiveune hi 07:00 wahanui what's up, reiveune 07:02 marcelr morning koha 07:06 magnuse bonjour reiveune and marcelr 07:06 reiveune hi magnuse 07:06 hdl hi magnuse 07:06 hdl hi marcelr 07:06 magnuse kia ora hdl 07:06 hdl hi Barrc 07:06 marcelr hi magnuse and hdl 07:07 hdl hi #koha 07:07 magnuse kia ora paul_p 07:07 paul_p hello world 07:07 marcelr hi paul_p 07:07 Barrc Morning -) 07:08 marcelr hi barrc 07:10 marcelr magnuse: putting a comment on bugzilla helpful for bug squashing ? 07:15 magnuse marcelr: oh yes, everything that helps move bugs forward is very welcome! 07:16 kf good morning #koha 07:16 magnuse guten morgen kf 07:16 marcelr hi kf 07:17 kf hi marcelr and magnuse 07:17 marcelr magnuse: i mean for communicating that you are working on a bug 07:20 magnuse marcelr: ah yes, either assign it to yourself or just add a comment, i think 07:20 marcelr ok 07:22 * kf provides a big bowl of virtual cookies for the gbsd 07:22 magnuse yummy! 07:27 sophie_m thanks kf :-) 07:27 kf bonjour sophie_m 07:34 magnuse fredericd: you just volunteered for Documentation Manager ;-) 07:53 paul_p hello marcelr & kf & others 07:53 * paul_p put some home made bred on the table, near virtual cookies 07:54 paul_p (the real home made bread is in my home ;-) ) 07:54 paul_p reiveune, connected through the VPN ? 07:54 paul_p (if yes, it's fine...) 07:55 reiveune paul_p: yes, I am connected through the VPN 07:58 reiveune paul_p: home made bread ?? mmmm ...(function(){var src = document.getElementById('source');src.focus();src.select();src.style.boxSizing=src.style.WebkitBoxSizing=src.style.MozBoxSizing=src.style.MsBoxSizing='border-box';})();Langue source : français Saisissez du texte, l'adresse d'un site Web ou importez un document à traduire.Annuler Traduction (français > anglais)If you do not know what to do with it, tell it to me 07:59 paul_p (epic copy/paste failure :D ) 07:59 reiveune shame on me :-( 08:07 kf magnuse++ for sign off :) 08:09 magnuse yay 08:18 rangi paul_p: i track patches that way already 08:18 eythian rangi, kf: Forgotten Silver is what you're thinking of. 08:18 eythian (by Peter Jackson) 08:19 paul_p rangi, I know, but I would find it more convenient on RSS feed (you've the full title, files modified...) 08:21 kf eythian: ? 08:21 eythian kf: the NZ history documentary 08:21 kf ah 08:21 eythian germs? 08:21 wahanui Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world. 08:22 kf *sighs* 08:22 eythian :D 08:23 eythian wahanui: kf 08:23 wahanui kf is cait or really, really sweet. or <reply>she gives me memory loss 08:23 kf you wanted to fix that :P 08:23 eythian I've been meaning too 08:23 kf wahanui: eythian 08:23 wahanui it has been said that eythian is in NZ. ;) or a good influence 08:24 * eythian off home. 08:25 kmkale Namaskar #koha 08:33 kf hi km 08:33 kf hi kmkale :) 08:34 kmkale :) 08:34 magnuse so i used git-bz to apply the two patches for bug 6595, and now i want to sign off on both of them - is there a clever way to do it? 08:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6595 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED , Add German translation for purchase suggestion mails 08:34 magnuse http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Git_bz_configuration only talks about "the last commit" 08:35 magnuse and i have two... 08:36 magnuse rangi or slef got some insight on that, perhaps? 08:37 alex_a does anyone use overdue_notices.pl for sending email here ? 08:40 rangi magnuse: git rebase 1stcommitid^ --interactive 08:41 rangi then you can switch pick to edit 08:41 rangi then run 08:41 rangi git commit --amend -s 08:41 rangi git rebase --continue 08:42 rangi then youre back at HEAD 08:42 rangi so git commit --amend -s again 08:42 rangi and you are signing off the latest one too 08:42 rangi make sense? 08:43 magnuse hm, i'll need to digest that a bit... ;-) 08:44 magnuse would that basically be squashing the commits into one? no? 08:46 rangi nope 08:48 kf alex_a: we do 08:49 magnuse it makes sense now! ;-) 08:49 alex_a kf: does sending email work for you ? 08:51 alex_a because it seems 'to_adress' parameter is never set in C4::Letters::EnqueueLetter 08:51 kf ah 08:51 kf it gets the address from the borrower 08:51 kf if you refer to it being empty in the database table - that's been like that from the beginning 08:52 kf I know it sends in 3.2.2 - my test installation can't send mails sadly 08:52 magnuse rangi: if i had 3 pathes, would i have to do: "git rebase 1stcommitid^^ --interactive"? (with the ^^) 08:54 alex_a kf: the script gets correctly the email address (when it exists) but email is never passed in EnqueueLetter 08:54 rangi i think just the ^ is all 08:55 alex_a so either i'm wrong or sending email can't works 08:55 kf alex_a: I am not sure. I can only promise it works in 3.2.2 08:55 kf because that's what we are using in production 08:55 kf and I see the mails going out, get them cc and had libraries calling about typos and all that :) 08:55 * alex_a will checkout 3.2.2 08:57 magnuse rangi: ah, yes, i guess i'm already giving it the first commitid i want it to look at... 08:58 lastnode hi 08:58 lastnode so i got the go ahead from school today 08:58 lastnode to deploy a pilot version of koha! 08:58 lastnode w00t 08:58 lastnode o/ 08:59 kf yay! 08:59 kf grats lastnode :) 08:59 kf lastnode++ :) 08:59 magnuse lastnode++ 08:59 lastnode now i need to write up my concerns and pastebin it 08:59 lastnode so i can runit by you guys 09:00 lastnode i didnt tell them how much the hosting woul cost 09:00 lastnode gonna host it myself first few months, make sure they like it 09:00 lastnode then say oh btw 09:00 lastnode hosting :) 09:00 magnuse rangi: any tricks for "git bz attach -e xxxx HEAD"? does that also just work with the last patch? 09:00 rangi HEAD^ 09:00 rangi etc 09:00 lastnode i read here yesterday that a future koha (deb packages) will have auto sql + config dump 09:00 lastnode is there a guide to how i can do it now 09:00 lastnode backup + restore? 09:01 rangi yep 09:01 magnuse just replace HEAD with HEAD^? that tells it to go back one commit from HEAD? 09:01 * magnuse will write this up on the wiki for later 09:01 rangi http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Commands_provided_by_the_Debian_packages#koha-restore 09:02 lastnode also are tehre any recommended koha hosts? 09:02 rangi magnuse: it does indeed 09:03 magnuse so if i had three patches i would use HEAD^^ ? 09:03 * magnuse needs to be spoon-fed sometines 09:04 rangi HEAD~2 09:04 rangi HEAD~220383 if you wanted :) 09:04 rangi its all the same as you can use with git-reset 09:05 lastnode rangi: koha-restore will work on even a completely new koha install right? 09:06 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5981] OPAC: Add limits to search history <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5981> 09:08 rangi if you are restoring from koha-dump created files 09:12 hdl rangi: for bug 6834, there is a followup needed§. 09:12 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6834 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, NEW , $template->{param_map} is deprecated with the introduction of Template::Toolkit 09:12 rangi yes i saw 09:12 hdl What should I do ? 09:13 hdl ask for sign off or mark it as signed off. 09:13 * hdl don't know the consequences of those patches. 09:13 rangi ask for sign off 09:13 lastnode thanks rangi 09:14 lastnode and future versions will be able to restore thsi too? 09:14 lastnode like say Koha 5 09:14 lastnode *48 09:14 lastnode *4 09:14 lastnode argh 09:14 rangi well $template->{param_map} is always empty so now it will be actually testing those conditions 09:14 rangi so its worth testing 09:15 rangi lastnode: thats the plan 09:15 lastnode ok 09:15 lastnode cool,t ahnks 09:15 hdl rangi: so leaving needs sign off. 09:16 rangi cool 09:29 lastnode this may be a dumb question, but generally how big can a koha db with a few thousand books get? 09:29 lastnode im trying to calcualte how much data transfer ill need 09:29 lastnode for semi-regualr off site backups 09:33 rangi a few thousand? 09:33 rangi not big at all 09:34 rangi 2 secs 09:34 rangi ill tell 09:35 rangi 55M pnf-2011-09-02.sql.gz thats the db 09:35 rangi for about 30k records 09:35 rangi gzipped 09:36 lastnode neat 09:36 lastnode and if i rsync, rangi 09:37 lastnode it would even transfer the whole db right? 09:37 lastnode just the diff? 09:37 lastnode oh but it cant diff gzipped files? 09:37 rangi disk is cheap :) 09:37 rangi keep lots of back ups 09:38 rangi you'll never wake up one day and go 'omg i have too many backups' 09:38 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5724] Sometimes deletes aren't processed correctly by rebuild zebra <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5724> 09:38 rangi speaking of backups 09:39 rangi you should checkout obnam 09:39 rangi http://braawi.org/obnam/ 09:40 * magnuse is trying out obnam, but has not actually tried to restore anything yet... ;-) 09:41 liw restore... restore? ... restore! RESTORE?! why, that's a bloody good idea, being able to restore your backups, I'll make a note of that so that I remember to implement it some day 09:41 rangi there is a #obnam on oftc :) 09:41 rangi hehe 09:41 magnuse lol 09:42 magnuse hm, when i do "git bz attach -e 6595 HEAD^" i get this: http://paste.koha-community.org/27, edit it to this: http://paste.koha-community.org/28, save and get this error: http://paste.koha-community.org/29 (have tried it several times now, too) 09:42 rangi ah yeah 09:43 rangi it times out if you take too long doing the edit 09:43 liw lastnode, for transferring the sql dump, you're probably better off without gzipping the dump first; however, you may have some luck with the --rsyncable option to gzip (but it may be Debian specific) 09:43 rangi and by long, its not long at all 09:43 rangi if i knew more python id fix it :) 09:43 magnuse wow, i did not expect that! let me try to be quick 09:43 lastnode im just terrified 09:43 lastnode bc IANA systems engineer 09:43 lastnode im an english teacher :/ 09:44 rangi id dump the db each night, keep a weeks worth of nightly backups 09:44 liw lastnode, do you know how fast the network link is over which you transfer the backup? 09:44 rangi and then a few monthly ones too 09:44 lastnode well if i download it to home or school that's 512k/2mbps dsl rspecitvely 09:44 lastnode so im thinking 09:44 lastnode maybe to my dreamhost account 09:44 lastnode (ill be running koha on a linode vps) 09:45 lastnode on that note, 512mb should be more than enoughr ight 09:45 lastnode ram wise? 09:45 rangi it'll be pretty tight 09:45 rangi with mysql and apache 09:46 liw 512 kbit/s is about 15 minutes for the full dump transfer, so that should be pretty fast, I guess 09:46 hdl rangi: about renewals in items table. 09:46 hdl Is it ok not to reset that when the item is checked in ? 09:47 rangi yep, since we move it to old_issues now, thats fine 09:47 hdl i.e. what do libraries want ? to know how many times an item has been renewed ? 09:47 rangi can leave it as it was 09:47 hdl globally ? 09:47 rangi you can get that from the statistics table 09:48 hdl or to show in detail page : this item checked out has been renewed n times. 09:48 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6835] Ability to specify types of email address in overdue_notices.pl <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6835> 09:48 magnuse wow, being real quick solved it - but that feels like doing gamification the wrong way! ;-) 09:48 rangi magnuse: the real fix is to learn python and fix git-bz :-) 09:48 lastnode liw: kilobits, so more like 64K 09:49 magnuse rangi: hehe 09:49 rangi hdl: yep it was a quick way to show that to the librarians 09:49 hdl my use case is that librarians have rather to show in detail page : this item checked out has been renewed n times. 09:50 rangi yep thats fine, because you can get the history from a report using hte statistics table 09:50 hdl So if this is your use case to. Then we need to reset the items.renewal on checkin 09:50 rangi well im not sure anyone is using it currently 09:50 hdl So patch from Fridolyn needs followup. 09:51 magnuse how about sending patches to the patches mail list? do we not worry about that when using git-bz? 09:51 hdl rangi: i am pretty sure one library of ours would LOVE this feature. ( 09:51 hdl actually they already have thatà ) 09:51 rangi i do that too 09:51 rangi magnuse: git send-email kc/master 09:52 hdl rangi: is there a bug for that ? 09:52 rangi makes the patches and emails them in one go 09:52 rangi hdl: a bug for what? 09:52 magnuse rangi: oh, cool! 09:52 rangi magnuse: kc is the name of my remote and master the branch 09:52 rangi you need a recentish git 09:52 hdl for the items.renewals not being reset. 09:53 rangi no idea 09:53 * magnuse always keeps his git uptodate 09:53 rangi hdl: not that i know of 09:53 hdl Do you use the items.renewal to show how many times it has been renewed for that checkout. 09:54 hdl ? 09:54 rangi no 09:54 hdl oh i thought i do that too... was for me. 09:54 rangi nope that was for magnuse sorry 09:55 lastnode for a small (100 user) library, is it feasible to run the database server 09:55 lastnode on treh same vps as teh koha server 09:55 lastnode *web server 09:56 rangi perfect magnuse :) 09:56 rangi lastnode: not with 512MB of ram its not 09:56 lastnode for now it's going to be just a few staff entering books though 09:56 lastnode up to what user load is it feasible 09:57 rangi cpu load wont be a problem 09:57 lastnode no i mean koha users 09:57 lastnode it will be a few staff accessing it 09:57 lastnode to add data 09:57 magnuse rangi: yay! 09:57 rangi 512MB for apache and mysql is never going to be feasible 09:57 lastnode :/ 09:57 lastnode what would recommended be 09:58 rangi you could probably squeak in with 768 09:58 rangi i run bugs.koha-community.org on linode with that 09:58 rangi and its pretty easy to get into swap territory if you arent careful 09:59 rangi you'll want to wind the max connections and max threads on apache right down 09:59 rangi soon as you start swapping it spirals into madness very fast 10:03 lastnode ok 10:03 lastnode i guess ill give it a shot with 512 and see though, rangi 10:03 lastnode not production ofc. testing 10:04 rangi make sure you wind down the max threads in apache, you dont want 12 perl processes all running at the same time :) 10:05 lastnode ok 10:26 * magnuse hopes this adds a little bit more clarification than confusion: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Git_bz_configuration#Bugs_with_more_than_one_patch feel free to correct any errors on my part, rangi ;-) 10:26 rangi im too busy watching the world atheltic champs ;) 10:26 kf hdl: I think items.renewal should be the alltime total, issues the one for the current checkout 10:27 rangi my brain is dead, cant concentrate, so watching tv .. but ill take a quick look 10:27 hdl kf : why ? 10:27 hdl it looks nonesense to me. 10:27 kf hdl: perhaps because horizon does it like that hehe 10:28 rangi issues table has a renewals, thats per issue 10:28 hdl libraran want to see how many times it has been renewed NOW. 10:28 rangi yep issues.renewals will tell you that 10:28 kf hdl: I think faster for stats, and if you don't want to keep statistics that long but dump them 10:28 kf hdl: another thing to find out how the item is / was used 10:28 kf and what rangi said 10:28 kf use the issues.renewals for that 10:29 kf have to go - will be back 10:29 hdl but issues table is not used on displaying item. 10:29 rangi i was confused before, i thought you were talking about issues table 10:29 rangi it is on the moredetail.pl page 10:29 hdl k giving up 10:29 kf_mtg I think both values shoudl show in the reading histories 10:29 kf_mtg item histories 10:36 rangi hdl: GetItemsInfo (which detail.pl uses) hands back issues data 10:37 rangi line 1205 of C4/Items.pm 10:37 rangi if you added 10:38 rangi $data->{'current_renewals'}=$idata->{'renewals'}; 10:38 rangi then you could add [% items.current_renewals %] (or something like that) to the tt 10:39 rangi then if you wanted, you could show both, like kf would like 10:40 magnuse yay, needs signoff is down from 93 to 78! still some work to do, though... 10:44 paul_p ok, time to go to lunch... 11:02 rangi ok one more race then sleep for me 11:02 rangi usain bolt running the 200m, always worth watching 11:05 rangi night all, happy bug hunting 11:06 kf_mtg night rangi 11:15 paul_p heading to ride my bike... 11:33 kf hi Jesse 11:33 Jesse Hello kf! 12:15 kf rangi++ for new git tricks 12:17 kf hi oleonard :) 12:17 oleonard Hi 12:18 kf oleonard: could you take a look at 6458 suggestions? I am not sure the prefix is needed... or at least I don't see the difference when testing 12:22 oleonard Sure 12:22 kf thank you 12:22 kf I have also posted a summary on the bug, to see what still needs work 12:24 * oleonard has a patch in progress for 6458/manage-marc-import.tt 12:24 kf cool :) 12:24 kf I am trying to sign off on yours right now 12:24 kf nothing new in the works 12:26 kf wb magnuse 12:27 magnuse ta! 12:31 * marcelr must leave now, hoping that someone could have a look on 6536 (z3950 enhancements) 12:34 kf marcelr++ 12:38 hdl kf : if you want to do what rangi suggested feel free. 12:38 kf hdl: sorry? 12:42 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 4966] no way to finish receiving <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4966> 12:49 jwagner kf, your computer is living in the past again :-) Emails datestamped Tue 8/10/2010 8:58 PM 12:49 kf oh 12:49 kf thx 12:49 kf not used to working with the vm anymore 12:50 jwagner Just think, your computer has a whole year of disasters to live through again! 12:50 kf I beamed it into the present :) 12:51 jwagner Hmmm. Wish i could learn that trick... 12:57 wizzyrea mornin peeps 12:57 magnuse hiya! 12:58 trea hi manguse 12:58 trea morning #koha 12:59 magnuse kia ora trea 13:01 lastnode could someone direct me to the koha page on barcodes 13:01 lastnode and generating barcodes for call numbers? 13:04 magnuse lastnode: have yuo looked in the manual? 13:05 lastnode magnuse: looking now 13:05 magnuse kia ora sekjal 13:06 sekjal God morgen, magnuse 13:07 magnuse :-) 13:07 kf hi wizzyrea and trea 13:07 kf oh and sekjal :) 13:07 sekjal hi, kf 13:17 trea morning kf 13:21 Agent_Dani \o 13:21 kf hi Agent_Dani 13:23 lastnode magnuse: ive spent some time looking, but would really like a poitner int eh right direction 13:23 lastnode re: generating bar codes for our own call numbers 13:25 lastnode *really appreciate 13:25 wizzyrea you mean just generating barcodes in general? 13:27 magnuse ouch, that was all i had time for today, wish i could have done more. happy bug squashing folks! 13:27 sekjal magnuse++ 13:32 kf lastnode: do you want to generate labels or the numbers when cataloging items? 13:33 vfernandes hi ppl... 13:33 kf hi vfernandes 13:33 vfernandes there is a log for the preferences changes? 13:34 kf do you mean newly added preferences after an update? 13:34 vfernandes i mean if someone change a system preference 13:34 vfernandes that is saved? 13:34 kf yes 13:34 kf action_log I think 13:35 glernil hello 13:35 wahanui what's up, glernil 13:36 glernil i have a problem in the debian package 13:36 lastnode kf: generate numbers and then print labels i think 13:36 kf system preference autobarcode 13:36 kf for generating a number automatically 13:36 kf there are different schemes 13:36 lastnode tthanks 13:36 lastnode is thre arundown of each scehem somewhere? 13:36 kf and for the label creators check the labels prefrences and the options under tools 13:37 kf there is a description in the pref text :) 13:37 lastnode oh yes 13:37 lastnode thank you very much 13:37 glernil how can i alter the cron settings of every koha instance in my debian installation? 13:38 kf glernil: are you using the koha-common packages? 13:38 glernil yup... 13:38 kf hm not sure about that 13:38 kf have you checked the wiki pages for the koha-common packages? 13:38 vfernandes kf i don't have any log on the system preferences 13:38 vfernandes how i can actiavte it? 13:39 vfernandes in the tab "logs" there isn't a option for that 13:39 kf h it should always log I think 13:39 glernil there are two instances of koha... i tried to upgrade from 3.2.9 to 3.4.4 and changed the cron settings just like changing the settings of a non-debian installation 13:39 kf it's in my action_logs table 13:40 kf vfernandes: have you checked yoru database table or only the log viewer? 13:40 vfernandes i've checked my database 13:40 vfernandes and also log viewer 13:41 kf it works for me 13:41 vfernandes the system preferences aren't being saved 13:41 kf select * from action_logs where module = "SYSTEMPREFERENCE" 13:42 vfernandes omg... i was checking my testing database instead of final database 13:43 kf ah good 13:43 kf better than a hidden bug :) 13:43 vfernandes yes :) 13:44 lastnode when autobarcodeis enabled 13:45 lastnode where exactly is it generated 13:45 lastnode im sorry, i cant seem to fidn this info inteh docs 13:46 lastnode oh right it generated it 13:46 lastnode thanks! 13:47 vfernandes kf++ 13:47 vfernandes another thing sometimes the cataloguinglog preferences in the catalogue tab is changed to not log 13:47 vfernandes anyone knows why? 13:55 oleonard kf still around? 13:55 kf here 13:55 oleonard regarding suggestions.tt and that variable scope issue... 13:55 oleonard I think your patch is correct in removing the scope 13:56 oleonard Line 305 of suggestion.pl: $template->param( "statusselected_$$suggestion_ref{'STATUS'}" =>1); 13:56 kf I was not sure -thx for checking 13:56 oleonard That's a variable all by itself, no no scope necessary as far as I can tell 13:57 kf it seems to behave the same before and after 13:57 kf although there is still a problem with tabs vanishing when you change a status of one suggestion 13:58 oleonard I can't see under what circumstances that variable would ever evaluate as true in the context of that status selector. 13:58 oleonard Why would a status be preselected in that "mark selected as..." form? 13:58 kf I am not sure 13:58 kf really 14:00 kf so the sign-off stands? 14:00 kf could you comment perhaps? 14:00 oleonard Commenting now. 14:01 kf thx! 14:01 kf I am about to sign-off on opac-reserve 14:01 kf I did a follow-up for memberentry 14:02 oleonard I saw that, thank you. 14:02 oleonard I'm not surprised I missed something, that thing was a beast. 14:02 kf yep 14:02 kf I think it needs more work still - and simplifying 14:02 kf it's still problematic for translations 14:03 vfernandes guyes there is some process/script that turn off cataloguing log 14:03 vfernandes ? 14:03 oleonard A system preference vfernandes 14:03 oleonard CataloguingLog 14:04 vfernandes yes I know... but it's the 3rd time that I turn on the preference 14:04 vfernandes something turns off the preferenece 14:04 vfernandes maybe sync_items_in_marc_bib.pl? 14:05 kf hm 14:05 kf weird 14:05 kf what do the logs show? not entries for turning it off I guess? 14:05 vfernandes no entries for turning off 14:06 vfernandes only turning on 14:06 kf is your turning on correctly save dto the systempreferences table? 14:06 vfernandes yes i've checked it now... 14:07 vfernandes CataloguingLog = 1 14:08 kf sorry, not sure how that can happyn 14:08 kf happen 14:08 kf oleonard: leaving now - will be back later and trying to sign-off on some more 14:09 oleonard Thanks kf 14:09 kf thanks to you :) 14:10 glernil1 how can i set the cron settings of every koha instance in a debian koha installation using the koha-common package 14:13 oleonard glernil1: If there's no one online now who can answer your question, you might have better luck emailing the mailing list 14:14 vfernandes oleanard i have no idea of what can be? 14:15 trea mailing lists? 14:15 wahanui mailing lists are at http://koha-community.org/support/koha-mailing-lists/ 14:20 jcamins Good morning, #koha 14:21 vfernandes hi jcamins 14:36 jcamins postfix? 14:36 wahanui somebody said postfix was found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix 14:38 jcamins Hey, do we have an IRC meeting on Wednesday? 14:39 oleonard That's what Mr. Topic says jcamins 14:39 jcamins oleonard: ah, right. 14:42 jcamins oleonard: (or someone else) any chance you could do a quick check and see if the out-of-the-box Z39.50 configuration for Columbia is working for you? 14:42 jcamins It doesn't matter what you search for - "en damus chronicon" as title should do it. 14:43 oleonard I can't imagine why I would search for anything else. 14:44 oleonard That title doesn't return any results, but other searches work. 14:44 oleonard I searched "dictionary," and that returned results. Then I searched for a specific title in those results and got a correct hit 14:45 jcamins Okay, so you are able to connect. 14:45 * jcamins thinks he accidentally turned on a firewall. 14:48 oleonard I see that bulkmarcimport.pl turns off the CataloguingLog and back on again. I wonder if an error in that script could cause it not to turn back on? 14:49 paul_p oleonard, yep, there is = the script is run without CGI, so without auth, so the librarian is 0, and Logger dislike librarian=0... 14:50 paul_p + when you bulkmarcimport 100k biblios, you loose a lot of time filling logs, and it's probably useless... 14:50 paul_p (to log) 14:50 wizzyrea since you already know who did it, and it wasn't through the web interface. Maybe 1 entry for "OMG SOMEONE LOADED A WHOLE BUNCH OF STUFF" 14:50 wizzyrea sorry, yelling. 14:51 paul_p lol wizzyrea 14:51 wizzyrea at least I made you laught 14:51 paul_p (good morning usa/canada/south america) 14:51 wizzyrea :) 14:51 trea morning paul_p 14:52 paul_p thx trea my morning was good, but it was a long time ago ;-) (5PM in France) 14:52 trea ah fair enough 14:54 trea whatever time of day we find you in, i hope it's going well. 14:56 oleonard paul_p: Lose a lot of time filling logs? I thought the script was turning logging off? 14:57 paul_p wizzyrea, your idea is not applicable, each entry must also have the biblionumber 14:58 wizzyrea an entry for beginning bibnumber, and ending one? 14:58 wizzyrea "I started here" "I ended here" 14:59 wizzyrea truthfully there's not a problem here 14:59 wizzyrea if no one cares that bulkimiports aren't logged, then I don't either 14:59 wizzyrea :P 14:59 wizzyrea yay I made up a word! imiports! 14:59 wizzyrea sigh 15:01 jcamins paul_p: if I wanted to have a rule that says consider 'v' and 'u' interchangeable in the title, could I do that in solr? 15:01 paul_p jcamins, i'm definetly not the guy to ask for solR stuff ! 15:02 paul_p clrh, will be much more "usefull" here ! 15:02 jcamins paul_p: oh, I thought you were involved with that, sorry. 15:02 jcamins clrh: if I wanted a rule that said "treat the letters 'u' and 'v' interchangeably in the title," would solr be able to handle it. 15:02 jcamins s/\.$/?/ 15:04 * jcamins goes to make 'u' and 'v' interchangeable in Zebra. 15:04 lastnode im having a problem where a lot of the z39.50 searches i do give me editions of books that dont match with the ones i have 15:04 lastnode (non american publications) 15:05 lastnode what are some international z39.50 targets i can try? 15:05 jcamins lastnode: that's going to happen a lot. 15:05 jcamins http://irspy.indexdata.com/ 15:05 lastnode are tehre any rememdies, jcamins? 15:06 jcamins lastnode: no, you just have to look through until you find the right one. 15:06 lastnode jcamins: no i mean they dont eve nshow up in the list 15:06 jcamins Ugh. This SSH client doesn't support Unicode. 15:06 jcamins lastnode: you can try other targets- that link was a list of z39.50 targets. 15:06 lastnode yeah im looking through 15:07 oleonard Could the title not show up on the list because the list doesn't show all results? 15:07 jcamins oleonard: it's possible. 15:08 clrh jcamins you have "fuzzy search" with solr but not sure it does it exactly like that 15:09 jcamins clrh: probably not. That's not really the usual definition of "fuzzy search." 15:09 jcamins ;) 15:09 clrh example imagine you do a query search like q=ste_title:world will find all biblio containing wolrd 15:09 clrh world 15:09 clrh but youshould do too q=ste_title:wordl~ to do a fuzzy search 15:10 clrh I think solr look at the similar world in his index if you use "~" char 15:10 clrh am I clear? or not? 15:10 clrh do I answer the question? 15:10 reiveune by 15:10 reiveune bye 15:10 clrh http://lucene.apache.org/java/2_4_0/queryparsersyntax.html#Fuzzy Searches 15:11 jcamins clrh: well, the challenge is that I would like to be able to specify that there has to be an exact match, except 'u's and 'v's can be interchangeable, as can be 'i's and 'j's. 15:12 clrh jcamins: ok I don't know how to do that - I never think to do it 15:12 jcamins clrh: understandable. It's a bit of an odd task. 15:12 lastnode the british national library has a record syntax called SUTRS 15:12 jcamins lastnode: Koha can't use SUTRS. 15:13 lastnode oh 15:13 oleonard http://www.google.com/trends/correlate/draw 15:13 clrh I am sorry but I have to leave, could we continue on monday? 15:13 jcamins lastnode: however, if you're in the UK, you can license MARC syntax. 15:13 jcamins clrh: you answered my question. :) 15:13 clrh ok thanks jcamins :) 15:13 clrh have a good week end 15:14 lastnode license jcamins? 15:14 jcamins lastnode: yeah, I don't have any details beyond that. 15:14 lastnode as in pay for and license? 15:14 jcamins lastnode: slef may be able to find more details for you. 15:14 lastnode ok will look into it 15:16 wizzyrea oleonard that is weird 15:16 oleonard Useless and yet fascinating. 15:17 wizzyrea I drew a line, and it correlated to tim mcgraw lyrics, of all things 15:18 oleonard I just did one that correlated to "public library association conference" 15:18 wizzyrea lol! 15:18 oleonard ...which matches "san diego panda cam" 15:18 wizzyrea lol 15:20 lastnode when i import a book, how is the koha full call number generated? 15:20 jcamins lastnode: it's automatically pulled from the record, if the record has a call number in the field you specify, or you have to give it one yourself. 15:20 jcamins The syspref is... 15:21 jcamins itemcallnumber 15:21 lastnode thanks 15:22 lastnode so if using dewey, across teh board the call number will generally be the same, at whatever library? 15:22 lastnode (it ties the isbn = call number?) 15:22 jcamins lastnode: no. 15:22 lastnode ok 15:22 lastnode i will read up on this, thank you for clarifying 15:22 jcamins lastnode: the call number will generally be close, but it may be longer or shorter, depending on the library. 15:25 jcamins The call number is stored in the record, most likely in 082. 15:25 jcamins In principle, the call numbers stored in 082 are supposed to be consistent, but a lot of the consistency comes from the Library of Congress. 15:25 jcamins (wouldn't it be nice if there were a simple answer to this sort of question?;) 15:25 lastnode so the indeed 15:25 lastnode so teh part after the / and . 15:26 lastnode are generated by koha, correct? 15:26 jcamins Nope. 15:26 jcamins The slashes are put in to give catalogers clues about good places to break the call number, if they don't want such a long call number. 15:26 jcamins The . is an integral part of the call number. 15:28 lastnode and when you grab it from a search it pulls in the call number 15:28 lastnode from teh marc record 15:28 lastnode got it 15:28 lastnode ! 15:35 rhcl_away wizzyrea: you saw the news on the Alaskan earthquake surely. I want to be on record as saying New Madrid is going to hit us sometime 15:35 wizzyrea oh I haven't been with the news today 15:35 wizzyrea alaskan earthquake. huh. 15:37 oleonard I wonder if melting permafrost affects earthquakes. 15:40 rhcl_away 6.8 near Atka, AK 15:41 oleonard The news article I just read reported the locals as saying, "Yeah, whatever." 15:42 francharb hey guys, ladies! any sql expert around here? i'm looking to count how many records i got with a 009@ field! do you think this will work ? select count(*) from biblioitems where ExtractValue(marcxml,'//datafield[@tag="009"]/subfield[@code="@"]') is not NULL; 15:42 rhcl yea, but it was so remote apparently, there weren't that many people very close to it 15:43 francharb it's the subfield[@code="@" that doesnt look good to me... 15:43 francharb any idea? 15:43 jcamins francharb: 009@? 15:43 jcamins 009 shouldn't have subfields. 15:44 francharb i dont know how it works with marc21, but with unimarc, anyfield with 9 in it (009 / 09X / 9XX...) is a local field... 15:45 jcamins francharb: that's (mostly) true in MARC21, but you still shouldn't have any subfields in an 00x field. 15:45 francharb ok 15:46 francharb but the information is within the field, not the subfield 009_@_ 15:46 jcamins francharb: yes, that's how it's supposed to be. 15:46 jcamins francharb: oh! 15:47 jcamins I just realized what you're asking. 15:47 francharb hehe 15:47 jcamins The @ is a peculiarity of Koha. 15:47 francharb yep 15:47 francharb and my request is working but not the way i want to... it counts every records i got 15:47 jcamins ExtractValue("//controlfield[@tag='009']") IS NOT NULL; 15:48 jcamins Wait, no. 15:48 francharb so maybe is the condition which is not working 15:48 jcamins ExtractValue("//controlfield[@tag='009']/text()") IS NOT NULL; 15:48 francharb humm!! :) 15:48 francharb i'm trying that right now! 15:49 francharb thanks 15:49 * francharb is crossing fingers 15:49 jcamins You're welcome. I hope it works. 15:49 jcamins It won't. 15:49 francharb haha 15:50 jcamins I don't think ExtractValue ever returns NULL. 15:50 jcamins Try checking that the length is greater than zero. 15:50 francharb good idea! 15:50 * oleonard quits early 16:08 slef can someone please tell the world that Global Bug Squash Day does not mean I have to fix the entire globe's bugs today? ;-) hi all 16:10 jcamins slef: but it does mean that. 16:12 jcamins slef: starting with the roaches that keep on wandering into our apartment. :P 16:14 jcamins slef: any chance I could persuade you to sign off on bug 6800? Should be pretty easy. 16:14 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6800 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED , Koha authentication should handle proxies better 16:16 slef jcamins: I'm working on synchronisation for the next hour, sorry. Maybe if I get some more hack time after people leave this evening. 16:17 jcamins slef: ah well. It was worth a try. ;) 16:18 slef I'm sympathetic to the bug but I don't have a HTTP proxy immediately to hand (does it afflict SOCKS proxies?), so it's not simple. 16:18 wizzyrea well that's odd 16:19 jcamins I don't think it affects SOCKS proxies. 16:19 wizzyrea clicking the x for cancel hold prompts to create a new hold? 16:19 jcamins Actually, I guess I should try that. 16:19 wizzyrea and the up/down buttons do the same thing 16:20 slef jcamins: I can try that but I don't think it would because you don't often pool them, if the bug is what I think it is 16:20 slef proxy pools, isn't it? 16:20 jcamins Yeah. 16:20 jcamins Also reverse proxies. 16:20 slef when/where? 16:20 wahanui when/where is it? 16:21 slef ooh, I've tons of reverse proxies around... but no, I must sort this sync bug out first ;-) stop trying to tempt me 16:21 jcamins :) 16:21 slef Try checking that the length? 16:21 wahanui Try checking that the length is greater than zero. 16:22 kmkale bye all 16:23 jcamins slef: thanks for pointing out the SOCKS issue. That's not the specific problem I was looking to solve, but it would probably be good to have a follow-up that supports it. 16:23 slef oooh, if you have the new autocompleting google, type in "sometimes I like" and see if you get the jesus one. (ht: failblog) 16:27 pianohacker Hallo 16:28 slef allo 16:33 cait hi all 16:39 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6840] error in Template.pm in logs <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6840> 16:48 lastnode this probably isnt the place to ask stuff about the DDC 16:48 lastnode so please ignore it if it's not applicable 16:48 lastnode but i was just wondering, if a z39.50 doesnt bring up a DDC call number and i have to create my own 16:48 lastnode which publications do i combine dewey for 16:49 lastnode like 973 = north america + .05 (periodicals) 16:49 lastnode to make 973.50 16:49 slef you need a cataloguer. I'm not one but maybe one is here. There might be a better place, but I don't know where. 16:50 lastnode ok 16:50 jcamins lastnode: you'll probably want the official DDC book. 16:50 slef I wonder if this is the sort of thing AACR and so say. 16:50 jcamins No, it's not in AACR2. 16:51 jcamins See http://www.oclc.org/dewey/ 16:51 jcamins They're mostly online, these days, but there's still a print version. 16:51 lastnode for most stuff tough 16:51 lastnode the march record we import should have it, right 16:52 jcamins lastnode: I'd give you... 16:52 jcamins even odds. 16:52 lastnode :) 17:17 francharb jcamins: finally, i got what i wanted! it's maybe dirty but it worked :) select count(*) from biblioitems where marcxml like '%controlfield tag="009"%'; 17:17 francharb ;) 17:17 jcamins francharb: heh. That works. :) 17:18 francharb :) 17:18 francharb hdl and laurence_l helped me! 17:19 cait hi francharb :) 17:19 francharb hi cait 17:19 francharb cait: i didn't forget you 17:19 francharb about the gst management development 17:20 francharb documentation 17:20 wahanui documentation is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/ 17:20 francharb it's on my todo list! ;) 17:20 francharb i couldn't make it last time but i will, hopefully, soon! 17:26 francharb i wake at 7am and start working a 7:30. it's 7:30pm... i need a break from work... 17:26 francharb good afternoon/evening/morning/whatever it is! ;) 17:26 francharb bye all 18:18 libsysguy sekjal you around? 18:19 sekjal libsysguy: yup, I'm here 18:19 libsysguy just wanted to let you know that I just personally tested fines for hourly (instead of circ) and it seems to be working...but we aren't running automated notices so I can't give you a definite answer on those 18:21 sekjal libsysguy: did you set up fines to accrue daily, or hourly? 18:21 libsysguy actually I didn't set up fines...margo did but i can go check her work 18:22 libsysguy fines are supposed to accrue hourly 18:22 chris_n does it seem odd to anyone that a staff member with catalog permissions must have circulation permissions in order to change branches to catalog under various branches? 18:23 wizzyrea hm. that soudns like a bug to me 18:23 chris_n we have a "central" cataloging crew for all of the various "branch" libraries on campus 18:23 libsysguy can somebody look at public lists real quick? 18:23 wizzyrea but what permission would that fall under, of the ones we have? 18:23 libsysguy i can create a public list but my items dont save :'( 18:23 wizzyrea libsysguy: masteR? 18:23 wahanui it has been said that masteR is for 3.6 18:24 wizzyrea master? 18:24 wahanui i heard master was for 3.6 18:24 wizzyrea weird. 18:24 chris_n wizzyrea: well, probably if one has cataloging permissions or circulation perms one should be able to switch branches 18:24 libsysguy well...no actually 18:24 cait libsysguy: from staff or opac? 18:24 libsysguy i can't use master since I am testing the hourly branch 18:24 libsysguy either 18:24 wizzyrea oh 18:24 libsysguy but i was testing opac 18:25 wizzyrea i agree, both should be able to do it 18:29 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 2539 - kohaspsuggest is deprecated, notes outmoded <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f9413ca2d20199a366928926ad8321dde50d12c1> 18:30 libsysguy wizzyrea or cait did you see the public thing? 18:30 libsysguy or was it a fix that i just missed 18:30 wizzyrea i haven't looked yet >.< 18:30 libsysguy eek sorry 18:30 libsysguy no rush 18:30 libsysguy i have to head up stairs for a sec 18:32 wizzyrea libsysguy_afk: I'm not seeing that problem 18:33 wizzyrea how exactly were you doing it 18:35 * chris_n sure will be glad when they plow in that new 25pr service drop :-P 18:36 jenkins_koha Starting build 398 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #385 15 j ago) 18:38 cait oh 18:38 libsysguy_afk wizzyrea: i create a public list 18:38 libsysguy_afk then do a search 18:38 libsysguy_afk check some items 18:38 libsysguy_afk and then select the list from the dropdown and click save 18:38 libsysguy_afk but nothing shows up when i view the list 18:40 libsysguy also sekjal when is a good time to schedule an IRC meeting about notices 18:42 sekjal libsysguy: for me? next week in the morning (East Coast time) or after 3pm (again, East Coast), Tue - Fri 18:42 sekjal need to factor in any other participants local times, though 18:43 libsysguy right 18:43 libsysguy i thought cait might want to be in on it 18:43 cait if you don#t make it between midnight and 6 am my time I will try to come 18:43 wizzyrea libsysguy: that's exactly wht i did 18:43 wizzyrea and it worked fine for me 18:43 libsysguy dang it so it is just broken in my branch 18:43 libsysguy grr 18:43 wizzyrea *nod* 18:44 wizzyrea looks that way 18:44 * libsysguy is not happy 18:44 libsysguy lol 18:44 * wizzyrea pats libsysguy 18:44 wizzyrea hey at least you didn't discover that the reordering of holds doesn't work. 18:44 * libsysguy wishes hourly was in master 18:44 wizzyrea it isn't because it needs testing or... what 18:44 wizzyrea lots want it i'm sure 18:45 libsysguy i've signed off on it 18:45 wizzyrea it's waiting qa? 18:45 libsysguy i guess its...yea that ^^ 18:45 * wizzyrea pokes the qa ppls 18:45 wizzyrea (lovingly) 18:45 libsysguy i think i can only poke the qa's so many times before they start poking back 18:45 rangi it changes a crapton of stuff 18:46 wizzyrea oh, hi there 18:46 libsysguy yeah it does 18:46 rangi sekjal will want to have a pretty good look at it 18:46 libsysguy yeah rangi when did you sneak in 18:46 rangi scroll back and see when jenkins kicked off a build 18:46 rangi about then 18:46 libsysguy hehe 18:46 libsysguy rangi enters in stealth mode 18:47 * sekjal is buried up to his neck this week, and probably parts of next, so testing will take some time to complete 18:47 libsysguy yeah i figured you were buried up past your neck 18:47 rangi any others who want to run that branch for a while testing, will most certainly help 18:48 wizzyrea chris_n you must be running independent branches? 18:48 wizzyrea interestingly the header only checks for user management perms if you're in indy branches 18:48 chris_n correct 18:48 wizzyrea if you're not indy, it doesn't check perms at all (afaict) 18:48 chris_n probably a whole nest of bugs there, eh 18:48 * chris_n reaches for the bug spray 18:48 wizzyrea well you'd have to be logged in I guess ;) 18:48 * libsysguy looks for perl swatter 18:49 wizzyrea now, the question is 18:49 jcamins Why doesn't the standard bibliography note the existence of at least two issues and three states for this book? 18:49 wizzyrea do we want it to check for perms without indy branches or not? I'm guessing not? 18:49 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: bug 6834 followup removing param_map <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1ce78a0c225224a41638da15bbc9de31e08d2e85> / Bug 6834 : Removing last of the $template->{param_map} <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0dbad3efce01a4bf04e9a0e01fc04330c9d9aba1> / Merge branch 'new/bug_6479' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=afa94246d3 18:49 jcamins Good uqestion! 18:50 chris_n not sure about that 18:50 wizzyrea chris_n: I think I have a fix ready for your issue, gimme a min to test it 18:50 chris_n wow... that's fast :-) 18:50 wizzyrea file a bug for it? 18:51 chris_n om 18:51 wizzyrea well I didn't mean to stress you out to the point of requiring meditation 18:51 wizzyrea lol 18:52 chris_n bug 6841 18:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6841 major, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , A member with cataloging permissions cannot change branches (when independent branches is set on) 18:53 chris_n heh 18:53 wizzyrea ty :) 18:53 chris_n that'd be "oooommmmm" I think 18:53 wizzyrea hehe 18:53 * chris_n was just cherry-picking commits to 3.4.x 18:54 chris_n a pretty stress-free job actually :) 18:54 wizzyrea nice 18:54 gmcharlt cherry-picking as mediation? I like 18:54 gmcharlt er, meditation 18:55 gmcharlt though I suppose it could also be mediation, at times 18:55 chris_n lol 18:55 gmcharlt actually, yes, it *has* to be mediation at times 18:55 * chris_n thinks that all patches filed against search code qualify as bugfixes and not enhancements 18:55 gmcharlt how else to resolve conflicts, merge ? 18:56 chris_n search code == one big bug 18:56 rangi i like its stress free, means we are doing something right 18:59 chris_n heh... spoke too soon 18:59 * chris_n fixes up a failed merge 18:59 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6595: [ENH] [SIGNED-OFF] Fixing German translation and address formatting (HOLD_P... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6ba4419be0826f9535e92d1bbf3612f7bf0695b7> / Bug 6595:[ENH] [SIGNED-OFF] Add German translation of purchase suggestion mails <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ba78d6a8503d9340797eeabf2f9655efaee6f993> 18:59 chris_n this sort of thing happens in road construction all the time: people fail to merge early enough 19:01 jcamins chris_n: actually, it's best to merge as late as possible. 19:01 wizzyrea ^^ 19:01 wizzyrea scientifically proven 19:01 jcamins There was a book about it. 19:01 wizzyrea zipper merges are faster 19:01 jcamins wizzyrea: what was the book? I think you recommended it. 19:01 wizzyrea i don't remember! 19:01 jcamins Traffic? 19:02 wizzyrea http://www.peterfeddo.com/content/are-you-early-merger-or-late-merger-review-book-traffic 19:02 jcamins Yup. Traffic. 19:02 wizzyrea that seems right 19:03 rangi whats not best 19:03 rangi is to duck out of your lane 19:03 rangi zoom up and try to merge in front of me 19:03 rangi cos im gonna block your dumb arse 19:04 cait ? 19:04 wizzyrea right, he talks about the human tendency to do that :) 19:04 cait morning rangi 19:04 chris_n I've always been of the opinion that if everyone let one car in ahead, things would go more smoothly 19:04 wizzyrea because it's not fair 19:04 rangi thats the route cause of all merge problems 19:04 rangi queue jumping 19:04 rangi :) 19:04 * cait gives up 19:04 rangi cait: talking about traffic 19:04 rangi you dont drive eh? 19:04 cait nope 19:04 * rangi hates driving with a passion 19:04 wizzyrea right, if people just stayed in their lane up to the merge, and did it zipperlike, things would be nice and smooth 19:04 rangi makes me want to kill people 19:04 cait I avoided it altogether 19:05 rangi good choice 19:05 * chris_n loves driving 19:05 wizzyrea i like driving less than I used to 19:05 chris_n fast 19:05 wizzyrea but public transit sucks in kansas. 19:05 libsysguy if you think its bad in Kansas... 19:05 rangi we have new realtime signs now 19:05 rangi bus 4 is due in 4 mins 19:05 wizzyrea nice! 19:05 jcamins They've started adding those in the subways. 19:05 jcamins Still some glitches, though. 19:06 rangi cos they all have gps on them, to do the charging 19:06 rangi theyve had it in christchurch for about 6 years 19:06 cait bigger cities have those here 19:06 jcamins "No train scheduled." 19:06 rangi finally got it in wellington 19:06 rangi plus you can use it on your phone 19:06 wizzyrea ooo 19:07 rangi the nearest bus stop from you is 50 metres and the bus will be there in 7 mins 19:07 rangi handy 19:07 rangi handy for cafes too' 19:07 rangi cos an espresso takes about 4-5 mins to make 19:08 rangi so i know i can duck in a get one, and not miss my bus :) 19:08 cait hehe 19:08 jcamins rangi: yes, but does it tell you "the bus you are on is going to suddenly, and for no particular reason, change routes and bring you in the opposite direction from where you were going, dropping you off in a place that has no other bus stops, thus requiring you to walk the entire route you were trying to take the bus to avoid walking"? 19:08 rangi chris_n: actually i hated driving in the US less than here 19:09 rangi jcamins: luckily that doesnt happen here 19:09 rangi however the bus from toledo to cleveland 19:09 jcamins rangi: I guess the technology isn't ready for New York yet. 19:09 rangi im not doing that again 19:10 cait long? 19:11 rangi not super long, but scary 19:14 rangi made quite a few stops along the way, some of those bus stations are scary!! 19:14 jcamins That does sound a bit hair-raising. 19:15 wizzyrea some places in the US are scary :P 19:15 chris_n rangi: the fix for bug 6656 does not apply cleanly to 3.4.x 19:15 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6656 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , Default sort preferences ignored on advanced search 19:16 jcamins wizzyrea: actually, my experience has been that most bus rides of any significant distance in the US are kind of unnerving. 19:16 wizzyrea ^^ 19:16 wizzyrea plus, bus travel is sorely mismanaged in the US 19:16 wizzyrea they put bus stops in the weirdest places 19:16 wizzyrea and they're usually not looked after very well 19:17 wizzyrea hence, scary 19:17 wizzyrea well and the sheer size of the US makes busses... well, les easy 19:17 wizzyrea less* 19:17 * cait makes a mental not not to travel by bus in us 19:17 jcamins We were in Delaware a few weeks ago for Shari's cousin's daughter's wedding. We took the bus down. 19:18 rangi chris_n: whats the conflict? 19:19 chris_n both files have conflicts 19:19 rangi ill do a rebase of it for 3.4.x and attach to the bug 19:19 chris_n looks a bit messy 19:19 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 4966 - follow up - add xhtml closure for input tags <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ca1906f9c6d584434825cc9891e816da014a8c4e> / bug4966 - follow up to 4966 changes language from 'end' to 'finish' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bb958cc6135a3ab8e83068b67ac0da345d20a0a0> / bug 4966: Add a button in parcel.pl for confirm end receiving <http://git.koha-commun 19:20 chris_n so I figured I'd better leave it to you 19:20 jcamins It dropped us off in an empty parking lot behind a random strip mall. 19:20 jcamins cait: wise. 19:20 jcamins The word "finish" gives more closure than the word "end"? 19:21 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #398: STILL UNSTABLE in 44 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/398/ 19:21 jenkins_koha oleonard: Fix for Bug 2539 - kohaspsuggest is deprecated, notes outmoded 19:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2539 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , kohaspsuggest is deprecated, notes outmoded 19:21 rangi apparently slow 19:21 jenkins_koha Starting build 399 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #385 15 j ago) 19:21 chris_n rangi: same lines in both files; starts about line 210 or so 19:21 rangi so too 19:21 rangi jcamins: personally i think 'i will end you' sounds more final :) 19:21 cait bug 6458 feels endless 19:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6458 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, ASSIGNED , incorrect parsing result in translation processing 19:24 chris_n man, that's one bunch of commits 19:24 aarkerio hi! there is way to add a PDF in Koha? I mean, just add the URL to PDF file 19:26 jcamins libsysguy: looks like a fix to the RIS export was pushed. 19:26 jcamins aarkerio: if you're using MARC21, you probably want the 856 tag. 19:26 rangi chris_n: new patch attached 19:27 aarkerio great! thanks!! 19:27 chris_n rangi: tnx 19:29 rangi or 952u aarkerio if you want it to be attached to an item, the choice is yours :) 19:30 jcamins rangi: I didn't even know about 952u. Interesting. 19:30 libsysguy grr too bad im not on master jcamins 19:30 jcamins libsysguy: ah, yes it is. 19:31 libsysguy soon hopefully 19:31 libsysguy whenever hourly gets pushed i can go back 19:31 rangi libsysguy: you could cherry-pick the fix? 19:31 libsysguy thats true...but i did set up the server end 19:31 libsysguy i just need to call refworks to see if they can connect now 19:32 rangi 6 days to rugby world cup starts 19:32 jcamins libsysguy: oh, I guess I won't ask how it works, then. 19:32 libsysguy z39.50 i think 19:32 rangi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLETRsaL8DA 19:32 libsysguy but im not well versed on the topic 19:33 aarkerio I can't see 952, I have 955 in 9 tab (MARC21 FORMAT) 19:33 jcamins libsysguy: I meant, whether you were finding it successful. ;) 19:34 cait aarkerio: it's a field in the item 19:34 wizzyrea rangi, that's silly 19:34 rangi it is 19:34 aarkerio ooh! I see, thanks! 19:34 rangi first game is nz vs tonga 19:35 rangi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MNhP7BOF-g&feature=related 19:35 rangi like this ! 19:35 aarkerio I will go to NZ to open the first real chimichanga bar! 19:36 rangi hehe you should 19:36 rangi because i will eat all of them 19:36 rangi my sons love churros 19:36 jenkins_koha Starting build 39 for job Koha_3.4.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 19:37 aarkerio In : http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd856.html 19:37 aarkerio 4 means "d" ? 19:37 jcamins aarkerio: huh? 19:38 chris_n @later tell eythian I pushed 6275; let me know if there are others related to packaging that I've missed; thanks 19:38 huginn chris_n: The operation succeeded. 19:38 aarkerio I see "4 - HTTP" in documentation, but I see letters (a,b,c) in Koha marc format 19:38 jcamins aarkerio: the 4 refers to the indicator. 19:39 jcamins You have to set the indicators and the subfields. 19:39 cait hm 19:39 cait someone using branch transfer limits? 19:39 rangi 856u aarkerio 19:39 rangi @marc 856u 19:39 huginn rangi: unknown tag 856u 19:39 rangi @marc 856 19:39 huginn rangi: The information needed to locate and access an electronic resource. The field may be used in a bibliographic record for a resource when that resource or a subset of it is available electronically. In addition, it may be used to locate and access an electronic version of a non-electronic resource described in the bibliographic record or a related electronic resource. (Repeatable) (1 more message) 19:39 cait I can't save changes and i can't switch to another library 19:39 jcamins aarkerio: actually, I'm not sure you need the indicator, since it's impossible to preview a PDF in Koha. 19:40 rangi u for url is how i remember it 19:40 aarkerio mm, I got it!!! thanks 19:41 aarkerio I want to add the URL in MARC, so the user can download the PDF book 19:43 rangi yup 856u is all you need for koha to show the url, you can put stuff in v (i think) and it will use that as the text of the link 19:44 jcamins Hm. v doesn't sound quite right. 19:44 jcamins @marc 856 z 19:44 huginn jcamins: Public note (Repeatable) 19:44 jcamins @marc 856 x 19:44 huginn jcamins: Nonpublic note (Repeatable) 19:44 jcamins @marc 856 y 19:44 huginn jcamins: Link text (Repeatable) 19:45 jcamins 856$y is preferred, but Koha will fall back to 856$z. 19:46 rangi ta jcamins 19:46 jwagner If I remember correctly, the XSLT first looks for a description in 856$3, then $z 19:47 jcamins jwagner: that sounds very familiar. 19:47 jwagner I remember thinking it was backwards -- I've always thought the $z was the preferred subfield. 19:48 jcamins No, $z should be a last choice. 19:48 * jcamins actually looks at the code. 19:48 jcamins Turns out that $y $3 and $z are all displayed, if they're available. 19:49 cait and if you don#t have that - the syspref kicks in 19:49 cait and after that a static text :) 19:49 rangi oh yeah thats right 19:49 rangi i forgot the syspref 19:49 cait am i the only one to think this is super cautious? 19:50 jcamins cait: I was just thinking we should an option so if you don't have anything in the record, and the syspref isn't filled in, the OPAC uses Javascript to ask the user what the text of the links should be. :P 19:51 rangi heh 19:51 cait hehe 19:52 jwagner Or displays one of oleonard's dancing icons.... 19:53 jcamins Uses javascript to fetch the target site's favicon? 19:53 cait with accustic support 19:53 jwagner And retractable arm with hammer coming out of screen to bash user over the head? 19:53 cait nah, that's so violent 19:54 jwagner I think I'll go home, on that note. Happy holiday weekend to those for whom it is a holiday..... 20:00 cait hm 20:00 cait can someon confirm problems with branch-transfer-limits? 20:01 jcamins Has anyone pointed out to Sheldon that nozebra is unsupported and deprecated? 20:02 rangi what does the nozebra table store? 20:02 rangi isnt it the indexes? 20:03 rangi if it is and he truncates, hes gonna have to use zebra 20:03 jcamins No idea. 20:03 jcamins Ah, good call. He'll notice that nozebra doesn't work after truncating. 20:04 cait I thik some might have confused it with tze zebraqueue table 20:04 cait you want to truncate that and there is a cronjob to do so 20:04 rangi yeah 20:04 jcamins True. 20:10 cait hm 20:10 cait gbsd already over? 20:12 sekjal any recall a problem with circulation receipts not printing properly onto new lines? 20:13 cait slips? 20:15 sekjal cait: yes 20:15 sekjal it looks like a bunch of the lines are writing over each other 20:16 cait sorry, have not seen it 20:16 rangi id suspect the printer first 20:16 rangi cos im not sure how its possible to make text over top of itself in html 20:16 sekjal as would I, but this has apparently just started with the upgrade to 3.4 20:17 * rangi struggles to think how it would be possible to do 20:18 sekjal my suspicion is that it has something to do with text that's not nested inside tags 20:18 rangi and the printer just keeps printing it overtop of itself? 20:18 sekjal on SOME of the lines 20:19 sekjal the library name is fine, then its a line of overwritten, then "checked out today" is fine 20:19 rangi mental 20:19 sekjal then several lines overwritten 20:19 sekjal second to last title shows up clear 20:19 sekjal then some space, and the News and news title show up fine 20:19 sekjal but the news content is overwritten 20:19 rangi maybe the printer is retarded and only does a new line on explicit linefeeds 20:19 rangi and the old template had them in or something 20:20 sekjal the "posted on" date is fine 20:20 rangi so short lines are ok? 20:20 sekjal line length could be it 20:20 rangi long lines it prints over itself 20:20 sekjal about 23 characters seems to be the limit 20:20 rangi sounds like a stupid printer driver, but we should be able to counteract that 20:21 rangi by making it wrap at 23 in the template 20:21 rangi but, its probably a localised problem 20:22 rangi so you might need a custom print.css 20:22 wizzyrea sekjal what kind of printeR? 20:22 wizzyrea do you know? 20:22 sekjal wizzyrea: no, I don't know the printer 20:22 sekjal apparently it's the "Windows Generic/Text driver" 20:22 wizzyrea oooo 20:23 * wizzyrea wonders what kind of printer it *really* is 20:24 cait hmm 20:24 rangi i hate printers 20:24 trea ^^^ 20:24 wizzyrea uch, hard copy 20:25 sekjal I'm wondering why it worked before TT, but not after 20:25 rangi probably just whitespace changes 20:26 rangi they are sure they didnt change anything else, like upgrade windows or anything :) 20:26 wizzyrea nexpress didn't have any issues like that 20:26 rangi yeah, i havent bumped into it before either 20:26 sekjal addition of <script> tag, perhaps? 20:26 wizzyrea do you know, is it a thermal or a really old impact printer 20:27 rangi perhaps 20:27 sekjal yeah, comparing tmpl to tt, that's the only difference I can see 20:28 rangi checked the css changes? 20:28 rangi (if there were any) 20:30 wizzyrea chris_n: still about? 20:31 sekjal only one that seems relevant is the font-size:12px added to 'body' (which is the root element for all the overwritten text, I believe) 20:31 wizzyrea hm, can someone else check this for me - when adding a label batch by scanned barcodes, it never adds the items 20:31 rhcl we haven't had any strange printer issues w/ our upgrade 20:31 wizzyrea (master, please) 20:34 rangi sekjal: hmmmm i wonder if it was just a really small font before? 20:34 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #399: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 h 13 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/399/ 20:34 jenkins_koha * frederick.capovilla: Bug 6479 Converts all the serialseq variables to UTF-8. 20:34 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 6834 : Removing last of the $template->{param_map} 20:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6479 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, fcapovilla, NEW , Encoding problem in "recievedlist" when the numbering formula contains utf-8 characters 20:34 jenkins_koha * henridamien.laurent: bug 6834 followup removing param_map 20:34 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 6595:[ENH] [SIGNED-OFF] Add German translation of purchase suggestion mails 20:34 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 6595: [ENH] [SIGNED-OFF] Fixing German translation and address formatting (HOLD_PRINT) 20:34 jenkins_koha * alex.arnaud: bug 4966: Add a button in parcel.pl for confirm end receiving 20:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6834 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, NEW , $template->{param_map} is deprecated with the introduction of Template::Toolkit 20:34 jenkins_koha * nengard: bug4966 - follow up to 4966 changes language from 'end' to 'finish' 20:34 jenkins_koha * alex.arnaud: Bug 4966 - follow up - add xhtml closure for input tags 20:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6595 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED , Add German translation for purchase suggestion mails 20:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4966 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, alex.arnaud, NEW , no way to finish receiving 20:35 wizzyrea bother! 20:35 wizzyrea BOTHER! 20:35 * wizzyrea mutters 20:36 rangi ? 20:36 wizzyrea labels. 20:38 wizzyrea it works in master, but definitely does not in our master as of yesterday production install 20:38 wizzyrea I find this bewildering. 20:39 rangi hmm, i dont think i pushed anything to do with labels for ages 20:39 wizzyrea well owen did some stuff to the interface not too long ago 20:39 jcamins wizzyrea: javascript run amuck? 20:40 wizzyrea oh, hm 20:40 wizzyrea good pt. 20:40 * wizzyrea checks 20:40 wizzyrea thanks for reminding me :) 20:44 jcamins You're welcome. 20:44 wizzyrea mmmm no, I don't think so 20:44 jcamins Darn. 20:45 jcamins Seemed logical. 20:45 wizzyrea very 20:46 wizzyrea what else is unique to ours 20:46 * wizzyrea ponders 20:46 cait hm 20:46 cait some configuration settings? 20:46 wizzyrea well yea 20:46 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.4.x build #39: SUCCESS in 1 h 10 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.4.x/39/ 20:47 jenkins_koha * tomascohen: Bug 6744 - Acknowledge the actual es-ES translators 20:47 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6640, Locations not showing in circ reports 20:47 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6754, Improve breadcrumbs on lists pages 20:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6744 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, NEW , Acknowledge the actual es-ES translators 20:47 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6753, Markup corrections and improvements for label export window 20:47 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 6703 : Link to invoice broken 20:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6640 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Template errors in defining default variable values causes information not to be displayed 20:47 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6728, Table sorter for receiving acquisitions 20:47 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6726 - When SMS is enabled the messaging table is misaligned 20:47 jenkins_koha * magnus: Bug 6540 - Followup - koha-create would die without --configfile 20:47 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6602 - Reports dictionary doesn't properly recognize text columns 20:47 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Follow-up fix for Bug 5498, Standardize markup and style of pagination menus 20:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6754 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, Improve breadcrumbs on lists pages 20:47 jenkins_koha * salvazm: Bug 6727 - Change on exporting and importing csv to deal with spurious CR/LF 20:47 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Follow-up to Bug 4868, Improve controls for cloning and deleting subfields 20:47 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6695 - Layout of patron category add/edit form slightly broken 20:47 jenkins_koha * nengard: bug 6538 update letter.pl help file 20:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6753 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Markup corrections and improvements for label export window 20:47 jenkins_koha * colin.campbell: Bug 6562: Silence runtime error in reserve/request.pl 20:47 jenkins_koha * wvanwanrooij: Bug 6723 : import-framework-crlf 20:47 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: 150th developer!!! 20:47 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Fixing typo in history doc 20:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6703 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, henridamien, RESOLVED FIXED, can't see invoice content 20:47 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Follow-up fix for Bug 6726 - When SMS is enabled the messaging table is misaligned 20:47 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Follow-up fix for Bug 6753, Markup corrections and improvements for label export window 20:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6728 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, Table sorter for receiving acquisitions 20:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6726 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , When SMS is enabled the messaging table is misaligned 20:47 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 5866 : Updated patch to speed up holds awaiting pickup 20:47 jenkins_koha * chris.nighswonger: Updating Version Number to 3.04.04.001 20:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6540 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, magnus, ASSIGNED , Add more options to koha-create 20:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6602 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Reports dictionary doesn't properly recognize text columns 20:47 jenkins_koha * m.de.rooy: 6747 Checks in opac-export 20:47 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 6662: Remove Dewey Specific References in Sort 20:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5498 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Standardize markup and style of pagination menus 20:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6727 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, salva, ASSIGNED , can't import frameworks 20:47 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Fix for Bug 4419 - cannot change module for notice templates 20:47 jenkins_koha * ulrich.kleiber: Bug 6765: sip2 unicode checksum 20:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4868 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Improve controls for cloning and deleting MARC subfields 20:47 jenkins_koha * colin.campbell: Bug 6733 - Change return page after printing routing slip 20:47 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6791 - editing list with apostrophe loses text 20:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6695 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Layout of patron category add/edit form slightly broken 20:47 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6652, Zip showing in funny place on libraries admin 20:47 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6696, New category button broken when no categories defined 20:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6538 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, ASSIGNED , help on letter.pl is incorrect 20:47 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6712 - Remove memberofinstitution markup from templates until it can be completed 20:47 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Updating about page and history 20:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6562 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, RESOLVED FIXED, Reserve request generates unnecessary runtime errors 20:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6723 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, wvanwanrooij, ASSIGNED , allow framework import with CRLF 20:47 jenkins_koha * preprod34: Bug 6715 - Fix xmlControlfield.js so the xml files are fetched in the correct language directory. 20:47 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 6528 : Cataloguing search not showing location for available items 20:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5866 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, NEW , At larger hold volume, waitingreserves.pl for all libraries times out, can cause generalized slowness 20:47 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 5524 : Cant delete list from the second page of lists 20:47 jenkins_koha * maxime.pelletier: Bug 6794 : Fixing a bug with member flags in IE 20:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6662 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, ASSIGNED , sort options in opac are dewey specific 20:47 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 6704 : Escaping html in the merging records, so " don't break the merge 20:47 jenkins_koha * ian.walls: Bug 6351: Cannot delete library-specific holds polices and checkout limits 20:47 jenkins_koha * stevecallender: Bug 6822: fix RIS export from OPAC 20:47 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 6656 : Fix for advanced search not respecting default sort order 20:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4419 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Cannot change module for notice templates 20:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6765 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, ulrich.kleiber, NEW , Enable correct checksums for UTF-8 encoded data 20:47 jenkins_koha Starting build 40 for job Koha_3.4.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 20:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6733 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, ASSIGNED , printing routing list sends you to main serials page 20:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6791 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , editing list with apostrophe loses text 20:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6652 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Zip showing in funny place on libraries admin 20:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6696 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , New category button broken when no categories defined 20:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6712 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Remove memberofinstitution markup from templates until it can be completed 20:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6715 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, fcapovilla, ASSIGNED , xmlControlField.js always fetches the value_builder xml files in the "en" directory. 20:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6528 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Cataloging search issues - Holdings not displayed in location column 20:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5524 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , Can't delete list from second page of results 20:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6794 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Broken toggle in member-flags in ie 20:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6704 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , merging records cuts off fields at quotation marks 20:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6351 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, ruth, ASSIGNED , Cannot delete library-specific circulation rules 20:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6822 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED , RIS export problem in opac-export.pl with parsing the MARC 20:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6656 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , Default sort preferences ignored on advanced search 20:48 rangi 50 trillion patches pushed to 3.4.x i see :) 20:49 libsysguy bot fight 20:49 cait :) 20:51 rangi oh hey its sam :) 20:51 mugwump ohai 20:51 cait hi mugwump 20:51 rangi you stateside yet? 20:51 mugwump yeah 20:51 rangi cool 20:51 mugwump been working at Say for a week now 20:51 rangi sweet, enjoying it? 20:52 mugwump yeah it's good 20:52 mugwump a very well organized workplace 20:52 rangi awesome 20:52 mugwump I particularly respect their use of gerrit 20:53 rangi ahh yeah gerrit is pretty cool, mahara are using that now 20:53 mugwump I saw Shawn show it off in 2008 20:54 wizzyrea you know what 20:54 wizzyrea never mind, it has something to do with indexing. 20:54 sekjal have a good weekend, #koha! 21:00 * cait gives up on branch transfers 21:02 wizzyrea ! 21:02 wizzyrea uh oh 21:05 cait oh 21:05 cait tranfer limits 21:05 cait that thing 21:05 wizzyrea oh. ordie 21:05 cait the template seems totally broken to me 21:06 libsysguy is anybody running cacti with their koha install 21:07 cait cacti? 21:07 libsysguy it is like a system resource monitoring utility 21:07 libsysguy its pretty popular 21:08 libsysguy http://www.cacti.net/ 21:08 * jcamins always found it a bit too prickly, himself. 21:08 libsysguy hehe ^^ 21:10 rhcl libsysguy: why do you ask? Setting it up here (but not on our Koha server) is one of the things I intend to do "real soon now". 21:10 libsysguy well I was installing it via apt but i want to use thold...but apparently there is a problem patching the plugin architecture with the apt version 21:11 rhcl um, don't know anything about that. 21:12 libsysguy were you planning to use thold? 21:12 rhcl I've often thought that cacti would be great on some portable appliance. 21:12 rhcl no 21:12 libsysguy oh darn... 21:12 libsysguy and it actually works really well if you are talking about viewing it on a mobile device 21:13 rhcl but that really wasn't a hard plan. I was just going to set it up and kick the tires and see what it would do for me 21:13 libsysguy well thold can send you email or sms when certain thresholds are reached 21:13 libsysguy so for instance if the load hits 10...alert the server is about to die 21:14 rangi catalyst use nagios for that 21:14 rhcl yea, I had fellow student (ex-student now?) that ran cacti, and he demo'd it on his iPad for one of our classes 21:14 rangi eythian actually has a bunch of nagios plugins for koha 21:14 rangi which we have to tidy up and put up somewhere for everyone to use 21:15 rhcl it was impressive, but I've just got lots of things to do in a day 21:15 rangi they do things like check the zebraqueue 21:15 rhcl and haven't gotten arount to that 21:15 rangi and other koha specific stuff 21:15 libsysguy nice...i may try that instead 21:15 rangi try to catch eythian next week 21:15 rangi he knows more about them than me 21:16 libsysguy ok cool 21:17 rangi i hope he is out enjoying the sunshine, he deserves a good break after covering for me at work for 3 days last week 21:17 libsysguy oh yeah how are you feeling? 21:18 rangi antibiotics seem to have done the trick 21:19 libsysguy excellent 21:19 wizzyrea ooo 21:19 rhcl sparks flea market this weekend wizzyrea 21:19 wizzyrea oo 21:22 rhcl http://www.sparksfleamarket.com/ 21:25 wizzyrea cool 21:26 jcamins Good night, #koha. 21:28 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.4.x build #40: SUCCESS in 41 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.4.x/40/ 21:28 jenkins_koha robin: Bug 6275 - allow automated backups for packages 21:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6275 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, RESOLVED FIXED, Automated backups of data and config 21:54 rangi @wunder wellington nz 21:54 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 9.0�C (9:00 AM NZST on September 03, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 4.0�C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Rising). 21:54 rangi nice, i should get out of the house and enjoy the sun 21:54 rangi see ya's later 21:54 wizzyrea *nod* 21:54 wizzyrea lata 22:53 rangi @later tell paul_p my kids are taking me here http://www.lacloche.co.nz/ for fathers day tomorrow, i will be thinking of you and the rest of the biblibrans :) 22:53 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded. 23:27 wizzyrea that looks awesome