Time Nick Message 01:38 talljoy_away yo 01:41 Agent_Dani oy 01:41 eythian yoyo 01:41 Agent_Dani Yeah, that's me. ;) 01:56 talljoy_away lol 02:02 * Agent_Dani is trying to convince herself that she's doing The Right Thing. 02:04 eythian ITS GOING TO ALL GO HORRIBLY WRONG 02:04 eythian does that help? 02:05 Agent_Dani Ah, there's the lettle satyr on the other shoulder! 02:17 talljoy_away Agent_Dani: fake it until you make it 02:18 Agent_Dani talljoy_away: hehe 02:18 Agent_Dani The thing in question is attending uni while working full-time. 02:18 eythian I did that for a while 02:19 eythian I don't really recommend it unless you're really good at time management 02:19 eythian (I'm not) 02:20 Agent_Dani That's my weakness but I am working on it. 02:20 Agent_Dani Right now I'm doing only one class per semester so it isn't costing me tuition, but I'll probably consider changing that in the future so it doesn't take 10 years to complete my BS. 02:21 eythian Yeah, you could probably get away with 1/4th-1/2 of a regular course maybe. When I was doing it, it was postgrad which was a mixed blessing. 02:21 * Agent_Dani nods 02:22 Agent_Dani Not helping is that my employer is quite inflexible about this. 02:23 Agent_Dani I.e. I couldn't get any flexibility in my 07:00-15:00 hours even with a 19:30-20:45 class. 02:23 * Agent_Dani notes here that she is employed by the uni in question. 02:24 eythian ah, that's surprising then. 02:24 eythian I thought a uni would be good with, y'know, uni. 02:24 Agent_Dani Not so much this place. 02:25 Agent_Dani At least specific managers, and I will consider going over my managers head if that becomes necessary, e.g. when I need to take Calculus which I cannot do outside of my usual work schedule. 02:27 Agent_Dani Anyhow, that's my hour of free time for today. Goodnight! 02:29 eythian bye 03:25 druthb o/ 03:26 eythian I'm starting to develop a problem with o'Reilly ebooks. I keep buying them every time I encounter something I need to know about. It's a fiendish scheme they've got going on. 03:27 druthb it is a clever scheme, eythian. 03:27 eythian The android market makes it a little too easy. 03:32 druthb It's the modern version of putting the cookies right next to the checkout at the grocery... 03:36 eythian it is very much 05:13 Judit hi 05:13 wahanui que tal, Judit 05:13 Judit is there an easy way to change on the /cgi-bin/koha/opac-user.pl the "If you don't have a password yet, stop by the circulation desk the next time you're in the library. We'll happily set one up for you. 05:13 Judit " text 05:13 Judit there is no syspref is there? 05:16 eythian I don't think so 05:16 eythian there ought to be, and it wouldn't be hard to do. 05:17 eythian I think the standard is to rewrite it with Javascript, which isn't a great solution. 05:17 Judit not great? 05:18 eythian it works mostly. Unless the person doesn't have JS turned on. But it's just not a very nice solution. A syspref or similar would be nicer. 05:18 eythian Well, actually, ideally you'd make it understand languages. 05:18 Judit so it is doable 05:18 Judit just not nice 05:18 eythian yep 05:19 eythian it'll work pretty much fine with javascript. 05:19 Judit how much work approx 05:19 Judit :) 05:19 eythian 10 minutes 05:19 Judit :D 05:19 Judit do make a syspref 05:19 Judit ? 05:19 eythian no, to do it with javascript 05:19 Judit and to do the syspref? 05:20 eythian I don't know. In a simple way, an hour or two, but I'd like to run it by other people, as it wouldn't work with multiple languages very well. 05:21 eythian And it may require building some way of translating editable messages, which is pretty messy. 05:21 eythian or, would need to be implemented fromt he ground up 05:21 eythian and that's a significant amount of work. 05:21 Judit thanks 05:21 Judit have you seen this: http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/5521175/Hurricane-Irene-just-like-Wellington 05:22 Judit made me think of you :D 05:22 eythian heh. Yeah, I hear the winds didn't even get to 100km/h, so really just light breezes. 05:22 Judit light breeze :D 05:22 Judit no that is notnormal 05:22 eythian http://www.myacpl.org/koha/?p=160 <-- customising the OPAC using CSS and JS 05:35 cait good morning #koha 05:58 fredericd cait: Are you invistigating a solution for bug 6750? 05:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6750 critical, P5, ---, frederic, NEW , Guarantor search broken on translated templates 05:58 cait fredericd: not yet 05:59 cait i thought fixing the translation processing bug would perhap fix it - but I see the file for the search itself is not in the list 06:00 cait fredericd: also the test is complaining about some things I don't know how to fix 06:00 fredericd It won't work in this case, even it's a related bug 06:00 cait fredericd: the first few results that have no patch are some of those 06:00 fredericd the issue comes from a complex JS 06:02 cait can you fix it? 06:02 fredericd Could you do a synthesis of the work in progress on the templates bug? what have been done, what have to be done 06:02 fredericd for 6750, I don't know, I take a look 06:02 cait fredericd: i can try to do so tomororw 06:03 cait planning to sign-off on owen's patches 06:03 cait and perhaps apply all of them at one and see what's still missing 06:03 fredericd Ok. If I can't fix 6750, I will leave a comment on BZ 06:03 cait ok 06:03 cait tomorrow is gbsd 06:04 cait hope a lot of things will get signed off 06:05 eythian oh, is it. Damn, rangi and I were thinking of finding a pub with free wifi and knocking off a bunch of them, but I don't know if he'll be in tomorrow. 06:06 alex_a bonjour #koha 06:09 cait you can still do that in 2 weeks 06:09 cait but I hope he will be better toda 06:09 cait y 06:09 cait and hi robin :) 06:10 eythian hello :) 06:17 cait bonjour alex_a and hdl 06:20 alex_a hello cait 06:20 alex_a and eythian 06:20 wahanui hmmm... eythian is in NZ. ;) or a good influence 06:20 alex_a and all 06:20 eythian hiya 06:20 eythian wahanui: why can't it be both‽ 06:20 wahanui eythian: huh? 06:28 cait or means both can be true 06:28 * cait spends to much time with boolean algebra lately 06:29 cait although I really doubt that you are a good influence on wahanui 06:31 eythian the best influence I think you mean! 06:31 lastnode hi, i dunno if some of you remember me, but I'm an English teacher from Colombo, Sri Lanka who is trying to pitch Koha to his school administration 06:31 lastnode ive shown the librarian and she seems imperssed 06:32 lastnode id like to outline a technical setup i have in mind and get some feedback from you guys 06:32 lastnode is there a mailing list i can use for that? 06:32 cait eythian: I still remember the germ thing! 06:33 eythian lastnode: the regular koha list 06:33 cait mailinglists? 06:33 cait mailing lists? 06:33 wahanui mailing lists are at http://koha-community.org/support/koha-mailing-lists/ 06:33 lastnode thanks eythian 06:33 lastnode and wahanui 06:33 wahanui rumour has it i am a repository of important and useful and accurate information 06:33 cait wahanui has the link for you :) 06:33 wahanui cait: i'm not following you... 06:33 cait it's ok wahanui 06:33 eythian cait: the germ this is the Truth! Why are you suppressing it?! 06:33 cait lastnode: wahanui is our bot :) 06:33 lastnode the main list - http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha ? 06:33 lastnode oh my bad 06:34 lastnode well bots deserve tahnks, too! 06:34 cait and cookies 06:34 cait wahanui botsnack cookie 06:34 wahanui :) 06:34 cait eythian: hmpf! 06:34 eythian wahanui: the main list is at http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha 06:34 wahanui OK, eythian. 06:35 eythian wahanui: germs is <reply>Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world. 06:35 wahanui ...but germs is <reply>... 06:35 lastnode thanks,ill drop an email after work today 06:35 eythian no wahanui, germs is <reply>Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world. 06:35 wahanui okay, eythian. 06:35 cait grrr 06:35 eythian :D 06:35 lastnode im considering running koha in a vm since backups and stuff are a lot easier 06:36 eythian lastnode: vms are fine, just be ensure that they have enough performance to run mysql and zebra 06:36 lastnode also, i think i aksed this yesterday, but what is the most non-technical howto doc koha has? ive been through thirdy party doc links etc. and sent the librarian a few 06:36 cait we do that too :) 06:36 lastnode but im looking for a general overview of koha froma non-tech librarian's POV 06:36 cait lastnode: for installing koha? or using it? 06:36 eythian here we tend to run koha and zebra in a vm, but with a dedicated database server. 06:36 lastnode using it cait 06:36 cait documentation? 06:36 wahanui i guess documentation is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/ 06:36 cait there is the english user manual 06:36 lastnode yeah ive linked to the main categories from there 06:37 cait ah ok 06:37 lastnode and ive also linked to some of the video tutorials 06:37 cait there is also a guide from brooke that might be helpful 06:37 lastnode but one link is broken 06:37 cait beginners guide? 06:37 eythian wahanui: moth apples is <reply>Moth apples are smaller than crab apples, sweeter too. Don't be tempted to eat them, as they are highly explosive. 06:37 wahanui OK, eythian. 06:37 cait lastnode: oh, you should report that to liz or nengard 06:38 lastnode ok, how do i do that? http://opensource.califa.org/koha_training is broken 06:38 cait wahanui: newbie guide is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Newbie_guide 06:38 wahanui OK, cait. 06:38 lastnode and i was told http://www.pakban.net/koha/tut/newbie.html is out of date 06:38 lastnode oh 06:38 lastnode that one 06:38 * lastnode looks 06:39 eythian lastnode: it seems out of date, but it's hard to say as it has no version numbers referenced. 06:39 eythian but it might be OK as a starter. 06:39 cait Brooke updated the wiki page for 3.2 I think so it should still be quite ok 06:39 cait the pakban link might be the older version 06:39 lastnode mediawiki looks broken to me in FF5 06:39 lastnode but the guide looks good 06:39 lastnode ill check it out, thanks guys 06:40 cait ah yes, ourmediawiki does that 06:40 cait when a page has no category, so I was told 06:40 cait but don't ask me how to add one... 06:40 lastnode my biggest concern is that koha might be overkill for what we wanna do. it's a small school, with 3k books atm 06:40 lastnode but it will grow, so i think koha is the way to go, due to it being FOSS and havign a strng userbase/community 06:41 eythian well, you don't have to use all the bits :) 06:41 lastnode that's true 06:41 cait it has a lot of features, but we think it's quite intuitive to use 06:41 lastnode it's just that even with fast add the adding record page 06:41 lastnode can be quite intimidating 06:41 lastnode for a new user 06:41 cait I get not a lot of questions about how to use features 06:41 cait I am supporting smaller libraries mostly 06:42 lastnode im apprehensive of setting ti up 06:42 lastnode because of the data. IANA sysadmin 06:42 lastnode and i dont want to lose the data haha 06:42 lastnode so that's why im considering vms 06:42 lastnode so i can just do a daily clone of each vm 06:42 lastnode and rest easy 06:43 reiveune hello 06:43 lastnode in any case, i guess i should detail all that and send to the koha list 06:43 lastnode thanks again! 06:43 lastnode brb 06:44 cait ok, have to go to - brb :) 06:45 julian hello #koha 06:47 eythian lastnode: if you're using the packages, they'll soon do daily backups of the database. 06:47 eythian which you can then rsync off-site 07:09 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6129] ISSN url param for serialssolutions.com <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6129> 07:09 lastnode oh right, that's nic eythian 07:09 lastnode soon as in 3.5? 07:09 eythian 3.6 probably, it might go into 3.4 07:10 eythian @later tell chris_n any chance of slipping the patch on bug 6275 into 3.4? 07:10 huginn eythian: The operation succeeded. 07:12 lastnode oh right. thansk eythian 07:12 lastnode eythian: and replacing teh db is simply a matter of replacing the file, or willthere be sql involved 07:13 lastnode oh it will backup a sql dump? 07:13 eythian it backs up the config and the SQL. You can then run koha-restore with those files on a fresh install to put it back. 07:13 lastnode sweet! 07:13 magnuse packages++ 07:13 lastnode koha++ 07:13 magnuse ...and hi #koha 07:13 eythian hi magnuse 07:15 magnuse bonjour clrh et paul_p 07:15 paul_p hello magnuse & al 07:17 clrh bonjour magnuse 07:17 clrh hello all 07:24 kmkale Namaskar #koha 07:24 * kmkale waves at magnuse paul_p clrh :) 07:25 magnuse namaste kmkale 07:26 kf hi all :) 07:27 eythian bye all :) 07:27 magnuse guten morgen kf 07:27 kf bye eythian :) 07:27 magnuse see ya eythian 07:27 kf and hi magnuse :) 08:12 kf hm 08:23 kf as of today lib-web-cats says there are 1399 libraries using koha - one year ago it was 1030 08:23 kf so even if we doubt the accuracy... nice trend 08:23 kf :) 08:24 magnuse yay! 08:26 kf fredericd++ 08:29 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6750] Guarantor search broken on translated templates <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6750> 08:29 kf does someone know how to create a link to a saved search in bugzilla? 08:30 kf I already shared it, but it won't work :( 08:54 glernil hello 08:54 wahanui bonjour, glernil 08:55 glernil I just want to ask something about the koha debian package 08:56 glernil i have 3.2.9 installed on my machine and i'm planning to upgrade to 3.4 08:57 magnuse i have not tried that, but it should be fine 08:58 magnuse there is a script you need to run, but the packages will remind you when you upgrade 08:58 glernil will the upgrade affect all the instances in my machine? by the way i used koha-common package and have two koha instances 08:58 magnuse yep, all the instances should be taken care of 08:58 magnuse but of course, make sure you do a backup of the database first! 08:59 glernil using the built in script in the package? 08:59 magnuse either that or just mysqldump 09:00 magnuse koha-dump should be a good choice 09:00 glernil actually i did an upgrade of a test installation in a virtual machine but an error occured 09:01 Oak hello #koha 09:01 magnuse glernil: hm, that sounds ominous... 09:01 magnuse Oak 09:01 Oak hello kf 09:01 Oak magnuse 09:01 Oak :) 09:01 glernil then i tried to use the script to upgrade to 3.4 09:01 kf hi Oak 09:01 Oak @later tell Brooke http://www.sebastianmarshall.com/the-million-dollar-question 09:01 huginn Oak: The operation succeeded. 09:01 magnuse glernil: so you know what the error was? 09:02 magnuse s/so/do/ 09:02 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5524 : Cant delete list from the second page of lists <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e39de040206eae26e22d6375479b548017cb7217> / Bug 6528 : Cataloguing search not showing location for available items <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ff4b179e14ab15bf5d20852a37e2b0a2dca45800> 09:03 glernil nope. i just ignored it. then it went fine. 09:04 glernil but i'm not sure if it is working properly as it should be. 09:05 magnuse hm, i would make sure it does... 09:05 magnuse maybe do the test upgrade again and make a note of the error? or test the test you have done thoroughly? 09:06 glernil ok. got to try again. 09:07 glernil another thing.. is it possible to create separate crontab settings for koha-instance1 and koha-instance2? 09:08 magnuse glernil: i'm not sure about that, eythian would know... 09:12 Brooke 0/ 09:12 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6704 : Escaping html in the merging records, so " don't break the merge <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=720e3012a87ca437c17e864f159138304ed0c006> / Bug 6656 : Fix for advanced search not respecting default sort order <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5a2fc683d842ca964b42c8ae68b15aba2526ef30> / Bug 6794 : Fixing a bug with member flags in IE <http://git.koha 09:12 Oak Heya Brooke :D 09:12 Brooke howdy 09:18 magnuse \o 09:18 Brooke wahanui magnuse? 09:18 wahanui magnuse is, like, afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza 09:18 Brooke tee hee 09:18 kf mmm pizza 09:18 Brooke hi cait :) 09:19 magnuse mmm pizza 09:20 magnuse tomorrow! 09:20 wahanui it has been said that tomorrow is pizza friday! 09:20 magnuse yay! 09:21 Brooke friday? 09:21 wahanui i guess friday is It's Friday, Friday Gotta get down on Friday 09:23 magnuse in 36 minutes, gbsd starts in Kiribati 09:24 kf :) 09:26 magnuse which should make this file magically appear: http://div.libriotech.no/kohamisc/hourlystatus-gbsd4.txt 09:27 Brooke winguardium leviosa! 09:27 magnuse and i will add the #kohails hashtag to the tweets from http://twitter.com/#!/KohaGBSD (until someone complains about the noise...) 09:28 Brooke pfft 09:28 Brooke 3 tweetsish a day 09:28 Brooke noise = bettah then dead in that case. 09:28 magnuse nope, it will be lots of tweets 09:29 * Brooke nods. 09:30 Brooke you should stick your chorewars avatar there instead of the newb egg 09:31 kf rights 09:31 magnuse yeah, there is that 09:31 Brooke rights schmights 09:31 Brooke asking is generally otay 09:34 * Brooke coughs. 09:34 Brooke Can I put my character's profile on a web page? 09:34 Brooke Sure. You can generate a Character Badge image which you can put on any other site you like, and it'll be updated to show your character's progression through adventures. 09:34 magnuse but it shouldn't be tied to me... 09:35 magnuse i found a CC-BY "squash bug" on flickr... 09:35 rangi !jenkins build koha_master now 09:35 jenkins_koha rangi: job koha_master build scheduled now 09:35 jenkins_koha Starting build 395 for job Koha_master (previous build: ABORTED -- last SUCCESS #385 13 j ago) 09:36 Brooke is there an image for the koha party? 09:36 Brooke I bet if you're clever, you can make a background mash for it >:) 09:36 magnuse don't think so... 09:36 Barrc Does anyone know if there is some dark art chant needed to add a new SystemPreference through the pref files!! :-) 09:37 Brooke real Koha is light work, not dark arts. ;) 09:37 * Brooke mumbles about muggles today... 09:37 magnuse Barrc: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/System_Preferences#Adding_a_new_system_preference 09:38 kf Brooke: a character badge shows the stats from chorewars - different use case 09:38 kf and it links back 09:39 kf Barrc: there is a document about new sys prefs on the wiki 09:39 kf system preferences? 09:40 Brooke anyone know if the new manual is going to add a search sometime soon? that page went up to 3.2 09:40 kf wahanui: system preferences is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/System_Preferences 09:40 wahanui OK, kf. 09:41 Brooke kf: I'm still betting that if you ask the creator, they'll be cool with it given other responses. 09:41 Barrc Thanks - I have been reading that, I thought that the new sys pref in, lets say, the admin.pref file would save it to the database, and it does. It just does't insert it correctly! 09:42 Barrc However, a SQL insert directly works fine 09:42 kf hm you should also add it to the sys pref sql file 09:42 kf for new installs and to updatedatabase 09:42 kf so people get informed about thenew option on update 09:42 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6822: fix RIS export from OPAC <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a2a9bc522035c17a24aa48badc5184b015197826> / Merge remote-tracking branch 'kc/new/bug_6351' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6be9d2b27dd47c859eb6ab0cfd873b2059206986> / Bug 6351: Cannot delete library-specific holds polices and checkout limits <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/ 09:42 Barrc kf: yep, I will but before that shouldn't just adding it to the admin.pref file be enough? That is, for my own testing? 09:43 kf never tried it, sorry 09:49 * Brooke s cat is starting an early, relentless breakfast campaign. 10:00 magnuse GBSD#4 just started in Kiribati! 10:00 Brooke hooray :D 10:01 Brooke thanks for organising these, Magnus 10:01 magnuse np 10:06 * Oak waves 10:06 Brooke welcome back 10:08 Oak :) gracias 10:21 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #395: STILL UNSTABLE in 45 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/395/ 10:21 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 4330 : Updating copyright statements 10:21 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 4330 : Updating copyright statements for about.pl 10:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4330 normal, P5, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , Copyright statements out of date 10:21 jenkins_koha * salvazm: Bug 6727 - Change on exporting and importing csv to deal with spurious CR/LF 10:21 jenkins_koha * frederick.capovilla: Bug 6690: If multiple issues are received in serials-edit.pl, changing the status of any issue changes the date of the first issue. 10:21 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Follow-up to Bug 4868, Improve controls for cloning and deleting subfields 10:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6727 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, salva, ASSIGNED , can't import frameworks 10:21 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6695 - Layout of patron category add/edit form slightly broken 10:21 jenkins_koha * nengard: bug 6538 update letter.pl help file 10:21 jenkins_koha * colin.campbell: Bug 6562: Silence runtime error in reserve/request.pl 10:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6690 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, fcapovilla, ASSIGNED , If multiple issues are received in serials-edit.pl, changing the status of any issue changes the date of the first issue. 10:21 jenkins_koha * srdjan: Bug 6721 - improve searching in the acquisitions system 10:21 jenkins_koha * wvanwanrooij: Bug 6723 : import-framework-crlf 10:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4868 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Improve controls for cloning and deleting MARC subfields 10:21 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: 150th developer!!! 10:21 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Fixing typo in history doc 10:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6695 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Layout of patron category add/edit form slightly broken 10:21 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Follow-up fix for Bug 6726 - When SMS is enabled the messaging table is misaligned 10:21 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 6748 - Add link to fast add framework while circulating, if a barcode is not found 10:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6538 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, ASSIGNED , help on letter.pl is incorrect 10:21 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Follow-up fix for Bug 6753, Markup corrections and improvements for label export window 10:21 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Fix for Bug 4893, Add an input field for Check In on main Staff Client page 10:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6562 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, RESOLVED FIXED, Reserve request generates unnecessary runtime errors 10:21 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 5866 : Updated patch to speed up holds awaiting pickup 10:21 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bumping database version 10:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6721 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, srdjan, ASSIGNED , Add Basket number and Invoice number search 10:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6723 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, wvanwanrooij, ASSIGNED , allow framework import with CRLF 10:21 jenkins_koha * m.de.rooy: 6747 Checks in opac-export 10:21 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 6662: Remove Dewey Specific References in Sort 10:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6726 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , When SMS is enabled the messaging table is misaligned 10:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6748 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, kyle.m.hall, RESOLVED FIXED, Add link to fast add framework while circulating, if a barcode is not found 10:21 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Fix for Bug 4419 - cannot change module for notice templates 10:21 jenkins_koha * ulrich.kleiber: Bug 6765: sip2 unicode checksum 10:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6753 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Markup corrections and improvements for label export window 10:21 jenkins_koha * colin.campbell: Bug 6733 - Change return page after printing routing slip 10:21 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6791 - editing list with apostrophe loses text 10:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4893 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Add an input field for Check In on main Staff Client page 10:21 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6652, Zip showing in funny place on libraries admin 10:21 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6696, New category button broken when no categories defined 10:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5866 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, NEW , At larger hold volume, waitingreserves.pl for all libraries times out, can cause generalized slowness 10:21 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6712 - Remove memberofinstitution markup from templates until it can be completed 10:21 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Updating about page and history 10:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6662 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, ASSIGNED , sort options in opac are dewey specific 10:21 jenkins_koha * preprod34: Bug 6715 - Fix xmlControlfield.js so the xml files are fetched in the correct language directory. 10:21 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 6528 : Cataloguing search not showing location for available items 10:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4419 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Cannot change module for notice templates 10:21 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 5524 : Cant delete list from the second page of lists 10:21 jenkins_koha * maxime.pelletier: Bug 6794 : Fixing a bug with member flags in IE 10:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6765 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, ulrich.kleiber, NEW , Enable correct checksums for UTF-8 encoded data 10:21 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 6656 : Fix for advanced search not respecting default sort order 10:21 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 6704 : Escaping html in the merging records, so " don't break the merge 10:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6733 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, ASSIGNED , printing routing list sends you to main serials page 10:21 jenkins_koha Starting build 396 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #385 14 j ago) 10:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6791 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , editing list with apostrophe loses text 10:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6652 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Zip showing in funny place on libraries admin 10:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6696 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , New category button broken when no categories defined 10:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6712 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Remove memberofinstitution markup from templates until it can be completed 10:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6715 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, fcapovilla, ASSIGNED , xmlControlField.js always fetches the value_builder xml files in the "en" directory. 10:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6528 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Cataloging search issues - Holdings not displayed in location column 10:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5524 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , Can't delete list from second page of results 10:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6794 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Broken toggle in member-flags in ie 10:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6656 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , Default sort preferences ignored on advanced search 10:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6704 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , merging records cuts off fields at quotation marks 10:32 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6278] Funny translation bug with XSLT subfieldSelect parameters <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6278> 10:56 Brooke 0/ 11:05 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #396: STILL UNSTABLE in 44 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/396/ 11:05 jenkins_koha * ian.walls: Bug 6351: Cannot delete library-specific holds polices and checkout limits 11:05 jenkins_koha * stevecallender: Bug 6822: fix RIS export from OPAC 11:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6351 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, ruth, ASSIGNED , Cannot delete library-specific circulation rules 11:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6822 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED , RIS export problem in opac-export.pl with parsing the MARC 11:11 rangi bug 6828 looks good 11:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6828 enhancement, P5, ---, barry, NEW , Add Admin Dashboard for staff users. 11:11 Brooke this is just furthering my thought that folks are stealing my presentation from out from under me. ;) 11:12 magnuse rangi: cool 11:12 Brooke but seriously, at least everyone's thoughts are converging 11:12 Brooke diverging is no fun 11:13 rangi be better to present on it already being done :) 11:13 Brooke indeed 11:14 Brooke that looks like a logical list of the guild dropdowns as they would be if one applied them to LIS 11:14 magnuse "i had this idea and before i knew it someone else had implemented it" is quite a good story too, i think ;-) 11:14 * magnuse wanders off in search of lunch 11:14 Brooke which I tell all the time 11:14 Brooke cause this one time 11:14 Brooke in Koha 11:15 Brooke I was all like "We should be able to export MARC records." 11:15 Brooke and by the end of lunch, we could. 11:16 Brooke I LIKE SPACE! 11:17 kf sounds like a rangi storty 11:17 kf story 11:19 rangi you cant blame marc stuff on me 11:19 kf not trying to 11:19 slef pondering KohaCon12 in June: opinions? It would be easier to find venue and accommodation in Edinburgh because the big festivals won't be on. 11:19 kf trying to blame you for a new awesome feature 11:20 kf slef: no objections from me 11:20 kf but june 2012 or 13? 11:20 slef 2012 11:20 kf ok 11:20 kf no objections then, the sooner I get to see you all again the better :) 11:20 jcamins_away slef: makes sense to me. 11:21 kf and edinburgh is cool - I have been there once when visiting friends in scotland :) 11:21 slef June would also be more daylight and better weather if there's a daytrip... or if you just want to walk up the volcano 11:21 rangi june is good 11:22 * jcamins_away has never been to Edinburgh in the autumn, but there's certainly a lot more sunlight in June than in, for example, March. 11:22 slef rangi escapes the winter 11:22 Brooke if you are fine cutting the prep time you've got back that far, should be fine 11:22 rangi yup 11:22 kf :) 11:22 slef jcamins_away: Sep is probably similar daylight to March. 11:22 Brooke mathematically, that'd bear out 11:22 jcamins_away slef: yeah, that's what I figured. 11:23 slef Brooke: bizarrely, it might actually move us the right side of a booking horizon and lengthen the prep time. 11:23 Brooke cross quarters should all have roughly the same daylight 11:24 slef (as in: might be able to reserve June now, but not Sep until next May... that sort of thing) 11:24 * Brooke nods. 11:24 rangi yep, thats often how it works 11:24 rangi getting a venue is 80% of the organising, the rest it just details :) 11:25 slef ok, I've updated the proposals table. I'll dump this back on mle now :) 11:25 Brooke I don't think any good would come out of bullying you to have it at a time that's inconvenient to you 11:25 Brooke it'd be like me saying I'm coming over tomorrow and I don't care if you're ready to house me 11:25 kf june... that's near and still too far away 11:25 slef I like Sep. Less frying my skin than summer :) 11:25 slef But it's not slefcon. 11:25 * Brooke thinks of fried salmon skin... 11:26 rangi least you have ozone :) 11:26 Brooke I have enough hot air to fix that rangi ;) 11:26 rangi hot air is the problem :) 11:27 jcamins_away Looks like Edinburgh's going to be hosting KohaCon12- no other proposals from Europe! 11:27 rangi barring a ton of votes for reno, looks that way 11:27 Brooke nope, but Reno's on the board. I'm supporting Edinburgh though 11:28 kf oh 11:28 kf today is deadline 11:28 kf hope europe gets a ton of votes 11:28 Brooke phone yer friends :P 11:29 kf nah, cheating would not be nice 11:29 Brooke voting isn't cheating. If they show up, it counts :D 11:29 slef hrm, what does the deadline mean? Should I have not updated the date? 11:29 Brooke now if you pay them to vote for you, and they've no intent to go, that'd be cheating. 11:29 Oak :) 11:30 slef my mistake... I thought the meeting was the deadline and didn't look. 11:30 Brooke that deadline to me is put in a bid or you don't get to be on the ballot 11:30 Brooke so you're making your own hard mode 11:30 druthb o/ 11:30 Brooke 0/ 11:30 druthb :) 11:30 Oak o/ 11:30 kf hi druthb 11:30 slef v_o_v 11:30 Brooke 0/ <--- tall poppy 11:31 * druthb chuckles. 11:31 slef v_o_v <-- nasty, British and short 11:31 druthb cool, pretty misty-foggy morning here in south dakota today. :) 11:32 slef oh yeah... I know what may confuse you if you come to Edinburgh... my Scottish-sounding colleague is not the one based there :) 11:34 Brooke http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCrT96QJBfQ 11:34 Brooke hadddd dtoooooo 11:38 slef http://youtube.com/watch?v=Nrmcxa1yBec 12:47 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6829] Remove two warnings for opac-MARCdetail <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6829> 12:55 oleonard I think the answer to this question is "not since Koha 1.x," but here goes: 12:55 oleonard Is there a way to set up a branch so that it doesn't show up as an option in OPAC searches, login forms, etc? 12:55 oleonard I got a question about setting up a "Cataloging/In-processing" branch 12:57 kf I talked to sekjal about this 12:57 kf I don't think it's possible currently 12:58 kf using jquery you could kill it from some places I think.. and you could suppress the titles with opac suppression perhaps 12:58 kf hmm 13:00 kf another question: we see a problem with allowonshelfholds in 3.4.4 - one book checked out, one book on shelf, no on self holds allowed, but still you can place a hold in opac 13:00 kf I think this was different in other versions 13:07 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6829] Remove two warnings for opac-MARCdetail <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6829> 13:25 oleonard kf, I though I'd try to hit Bug 6458 again today. Is there anything you'd like to claim? 13:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6458 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, ASSIGNED , incorrect parsing result in translation processing 13:27 kf oleonard: no - you can pick whatever you want :) 13:27 kf I will try to work a bit on it this evening 13:27 * oleonard thinks he'll have a little time for it today 13:30 kf oleonard: I want to fix the suggestions patch 13:30 kf very unhappy I missed the scoping thing 13:30 kf but if you want to fix it too - I will sign-off 13:32 oleonard I don't know what you're talking about 13:35 oleonard Hi LBA 13:36 * magnuse thinks kf was thinking about comment #60: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6458#c60 13:36 huginn 04Bug 6458: normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, ASSIGNED , incorrect parsing result in translation processing 13:39 kmkale Namaskar #koha 13:39 oleonard Thanks magnuse, I hadn't seen that 13:39 kf yep, sorry 13:39 kf was checking something with a coworker 13:58 wizzyrea mornin 13:59 kf morning wizzy 14:02 oleonard Hi sekjal & wizzyrea 14:02 sekjal hi, oleonard 14:02 wizzyrea hiya oleonard 14:03 sekjal sorry, gtg, car is ready to pick up. 14:03 wizzyrea gl... lordie he's fast. 14:35 trea The overdue/fine/hold ready notices that koha sends - there is not a method currently to specify a custom "Reply-To" email in the notices module, correct? 14:36 trea aside from setting one in the body of the message itself. 14:37 wizzyrea Well, it's not in the notices module, but you can set a custom library email address in the library definition 14:37 kf hm 14:37 kf shouldn't it use the mail it was send from? 14:37 wizzyrea and i believe that's the reply to for all notices 14:39 wizzyrea that's in more -> administration -> libraries, branches and groups 14:39 hdl trea: you could also add some automatic cc 14:39 hdl with Mail::Sendmail 14:40 hdl But this is not what I would recommend. 14:40 jcamins_away How do you add a T::T variable? 14:40 jcamins_away s/variable/parameter/ 14:42 jcamins_away $template->param? 14:42 wahanui $template->param is a h::t::p things 14:42 wizzyrea no, it's got a different construction 14:42 wizzyrea sec 14:43 jcamins_away I had a feeling. 14:43 wizzyrea rangi's said it a zillion times in channel 14:43 jcamins_away I know. 14:43 jcamins_away Unfortunately, I can't come up with how to find the answer. 14:44 wizzyrea $template->{VARS}->{'name'}=$var; 14:44 wizzyrea i had to look it up in the logs lol 14:44 jcamins_away Thanks. 14:44 wizzyrea yw :) 14:44 kf template var is $template->{VARS}->{'name'}=$var; 14:44 kf template var 14:44 wahanui template var is $template->{VARS}->{'name'}=$var; 14:44 wizzyrea kf++ 14:44 wizzyrea teaching_the_bot_useful_things++ 14:45 hdl see in C4::Templates 14:45 kf bye all 14:45 wizzyrea later kf 14:48 hdl bye 14:48 wizzyrea later hdl 15:04 reiveune bye 15:09 libsysguy morning #Koha 15:09 trea o/ 15:14 alex_a bye 15:18 rhcl Hi libsysguy 15:19 libsysguy hi rhcl 15:25 libsysguy so can anybody comment on Koha and Solr? I'm really interested in trying it out. 15:25 wizzyrea would anyone object if I changed the default sorting on the saved reports page from numeric by author to numeric by id? 15:25 wizzyrea you just missed hdl 15:25 libsysguy dang it 15:25 wizzyrea it's driving me NUTS 15:25 libsysguy the sorting? 15:25 wizzyrea yes 15:25 libsysguy i have no objections 15:25 libsysguy but I don't really use reports all that much 15:26 libsysguy would it be possible to variable-ize it in a drop down 15:26 wizzyrea all columns are sortable 15:26 wizzyrea it just makes me crazy to have to click on ID every time 15:26 libsysguy gotcha...so just changing the default 15:26 wizzyrea right 15:27 libsysguy wouldn't hurt my feelings so much...but like i said...im not a power user there 15:27 * wizzyrea will think about it 15:27 wizzyrea (someone probably explicitly chose the numeric by author explicitly) 15:28 wizzyrea do you think I could use the word explicitly any more? 15:28 * wizzyrea sighs 15:28 wizzyrea I blame the snot. 15:28 libsysguy eww snot? 15:28 libsysguy gross wizzyrea 15:28 oleonard Let it never be said that wizzyrea is not explicit. 15:28 wizzyrea summer cold. :( 15:28 * wizzyrea giggles 15:28 oleonard wizzyrea: That's a back-to-school cold. 15:29 wizzyrea oleonard: ah, is that what that is? 15:29 wizzyrea I take it you have experience 15:29 oleonard Back to school is one big germ orgy. It's horrible to behold. 15:29 wizzyrea "germ orgy" 15:29 libsysguy yeah I will contest to that 15:30 wizzyrea that's a fabulous mental image. 15:30 libsysguy i guess that is slightly different when you get to college 15:30 * libsysguy shall not say any more about that 15:30 wizzyrea O.o 15:30 libsysguy hehe 15:30 wizzyrea I won't even ask what kind of germs you are passing around. 15:31 libsysguy not me...what do you think i go to texas tech or something 15:31 wizzyrea OHSNAP 15:31 libsysguy BURN 15:31 wizzyrea won't offend me, I didn't go to Texas Tech. 15:31 wizzyrea >.> 15:32 libsysguy <.< 15:47 libsysguy can somebody verify if the shipment date field is broken in acqui/parcels.pl 15:47 wizzyrea broken how? 15:47 libsysguy like it always sets to today 15:48 libsysguy even if you select something else 15:48 libsysguy im wondering if it is hourly that is breaking it since im still on that branch or if its actually broken 16:05 sekjal anyone here have an opinion on the value of Rebarcoding Tool for Koha? 16:05 wizzyrea explain 16:05 wizzyrea what does it do exactly 16:05 sekjal a tool for making the rebarcoding of items as easy as possible 16:06 wizzyrea so say, scan a barcode, scan the new barcode, done 16:06 wizzyrea sort of thing 16:06 sekjal imagine a collection of 20,000 items, needing to go from 6-digit barcodes to 14-digit (so they could join the state system, say) 16:06 sekjal wizzyrea: exactly that workflow, yes 16:06 wizzyrea I love it. 16:07 wizzyrea it has relatively limited usefulness for day to day 16:07 wizzyrea but when you need it 16:07 wizzyrea boy 16:07 wizzyrea it'd be handy 16:07 sekjal and ideally it would be something that could eventually be made mobile and linked to a smartphone's barcode scanner app 16:08 wizzyrea or at least the page it's on would be extremely mobile friendly 16:09 sekjal it doesn't strike me as a terribly hard thing to write 16:10 sekjal permissions control and security would be the trickiest part, I reckon 16:10 wizzyrea well no 16:34 rhcl back to school? 16:34 wahanui i heard back to school was one big germ orgy. It's horrible to behold. 16:36 rhcl did I go to texas tech? sounds familiar. No, think it was Tx State Tech College(?). I've attended lots of places. 16:44 libsysguy_afk you went to texas state rhcl? 16:46 libsysguy wizzyrea: i went and talked to our acquisitions librarian and she said it wasn't broken just not doing what she wanted...thats what I get for trusting second hand information 16:47 rhcl I went to Angelo State University for a while, and somewhere else--TSTI sounds familiar. Texas State Tech Institute maybe? Is that a college w/ a branch in San Angelo? 16:48 libsysguy maybe...i just have some friends that go to texas state 16:51 wizzyrea I seriously want to know what my coworkers do to rechargeable batteries. 17:46 * cait waves 17:46 wizzyrea hi cait :D 17:46 cait hi liz :) 17:54 trea hi cait 17:56 cait hi trea 18:05 rangi who wants to do me a flavour? 18:05 wizzyrea what's the flavour? 18:05 rangi bug 6292 18:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6292 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , Overdue notices have a bug when multiple overdues exist 18:05 cait vanilla? 18:06 rangi theres one followup patch on that, awaiting sign off still 18:06 cait I can do it 18:06 cait i signed offon the first 18:06 rangi yay 18:06 wizzyrea cait++ 18:07 wizzyrea plus, you have a plan, so that helps :) 18:07 cait karma after the job is done liz:) 18:07 wahanui after the job is done liz:) has neutral karma 18:07 cait lol 18:07 rangi cos i just replied to someones email and said today is gbsd 18:07 wizzyrea ! no wai 18:07 cait yes itis 18:07 cait today 18:07 rangi so it will look cool if we can then go look its squashed 18:07 cait in kiribati and nz 18:07 wizzyrea o right lol 18:08 wizzyrea well I meant "no way you get karma for volunteering, and because you already have a plan in place to test it" 18:08 wizzyrea :P 18:08 wizzyrea you can have MORE karma when the job is done 18:08 wizzyrea mooooaarrrr 18:08 rangi fredericd: you around? 18:08 wizzyrea <.< I might be feeling silly >.> 18:09 cait rangi: but I think the mail thing should be a different bug perhaps 18:09 cait not easy to tell, notenough information 18:09 rangi the follow up one? 18:10 cait both have not been pushed yet 18:10 cait ah 18:10 rangi @later tell fredericd you should set innodb_file_per_table in you my.cnf, then you can reclaim space 18:10 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded. 18:10 rangi theres 3 :) 18:10 cait the mail you replied to - hard to tell from the description ther eif that's really the problem with it 18:10 cait could also be it's assigned to a patron category that has no overudes activated 18:11 rangi none have been pushed becase the third patch hasnt been signed off 18:11 rangi yup, you could reply and say that too 18:11 cait sorry for being misunderstandable :) 18:11 rangi im just using it as an advertisement for gbsd 18:13 cait and making me do the hard part :P 18:13 * cait starts the bug sqashing play list 18:14 wizzyrea hehe 18:17 rangi :) 18:17 rangi ill make a new one when i get into work in a couple of hours 18:17 rangi to make up for it 18:18 rangi oh and congrats trea :) 18:19 trea thanks rangi - good to see you again 18:19 rangi im still winning! http://div.libriotech.no/kohamisc/hourlystatus-gbsd4.txt 18:19 rangi hehe 18:20 wizzyrea lol you're in the future! 18:20 wizzyrea I guess that means it's over for you first too though ;) 18:20 rangi yup 18:20 rangi i cheated, and started on kiribati time 18:21 rangi not sure ill get to do too much at work 18:21 rangi since i have 3 days of work piled up 18:21 wizzyrea vacation? 18:21 rangi nope, been sick 18:21 wizzyrea :( that sucks 18:21 cait and I hope you don't plan to do all that work today! 18:21 wizzyrea ^^ 18:21 rangi im planning to send it all to you actually cait 18:22 rangi :) 18:22 cait hmpf?! 18:22 rangi want a job? 18:22 rangi project manager? 18:22 rangi :) 18:22 cait um 18:22 wizzyrea of course she does! 18:22 wizzyrea ^.^ 18:23 rangi actually i have a few people to chase up about that today 18:23 rangi one of my tasks 18:23 * cait is confused 18:25 rangi completely offtopic 18:25 rangi but cool 18:25 rangi http://www.fsf.org/patrons 18:25 wizzyrea i saw that, awesome 18:27 rangi https://my.fsf.org/associate/support_freedom?referrer=9619 18:27 rangi if you join from there, thats my referral number :) 18:27 rangi hint hint 18:27 rangi hehe 18:28 wizzyrea lol 18:44 rangi ohh new channel peak 18:44 rangi Peak for #koha 61 (Fri Sep 2 02:00:33 2011) 18:44 rangi (nz time) 18:44 cait hehe you love stats 18:44 rangi i do 18:54 indradg hi rangi cait wizzyrea :) 18:54 rangi hi indradg 18:54 cait hi indradg 18:55 wizzyrea indradg: hi there :) 18:55 indradg so you people have tickets in place to visit india? 18:56 rangi i have 2 other conferences on at the same time 18:56 indradg rangi, i remember you telling me that 18:56 rangi one in canada, then the big nz library conference in wellington 18:56 rangi but ill be phoning in a presentation 18:56 cait I am not going this year, but hopefully next year 18:56 indradg \m/ 19:11 rangi indradg: hows west bengal going? 19:14 talljoy when running the bukmarcimport for authority records, what is best field to use for matching authority records? 010 (library of congress control number) 19:14 aarkerio hi! somebody knows if Koha support National Library of Medicine (NLM) Classification Scheme ? 19:15 indradg rangi, the systems have been deployed at 170 town libs... we are in the middle of an OS refresh, and I'm trying to convince an upgrade to 3.4 from 3.2.6 19:17 indradg rangi, i didn't submit any "paper" for the KohaCon CfP, will be sharing the inputs during BoFs I'm sure. 19:18 cait aarkerio: you can catalog the field in marc21 - but I am not sure if it shows up in detail screens. It shows in isbd afaik 19:18 cait aarkerio: having authorities for it should be possible by creating a new framework and linking it to the field 19:18 indradg this project has taught us a lot... the real stumbling blocks in a 100% FS deployment 19:19 rangi *nod* 19:19 rangi 170 is no small number 19:22 rangi indradg: we got told that 'deploying koha to 25 libraries in nz would be too big for koha' 19:22 rangi so id love to point them at something saying look, heres 170 19:22 rangi stop talking rubbish :) 19:23 * rangi goes to catch his bus 19:26 trea are koha usernames (web interface) case sensitive? 19:26 indradg trea yes 19:26 trea ty 19:26 indradg :) 19:28 aarkerio this is still a validate page? 19:28 aarkerio http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd060.html 19:35 talljoy aarkerio: It is still valid if the LOC has it in the files. I have not seen it in use in the libraries I 19:35 talljoy I've seen. You may try email the list to see if anyone else is using it. 19:36 talljoy http://www.oclc.org/bibformats/en/0xx/ OCLC also show that as a field in the marc record. 19:38 Brooke kia ora 19:38 wizzyrea whaddup brooke 19:38 Brooke yo yo yo NEKLS in the hizzouse! 19:40 * Brooke definitely didn't watch Margaret Cho instead of working on her preso. 19:44 rangi Back 19:45 cait :) 19:45 talljoy :) 19:45 talljoy has anyone used bulkmarcimport with matching? is this asking for a specific match point? incoming record matched to a specific existing record? 19:46 rangi from the commandline? 19:46 rangi not me 19:46 talljoy perl ~/kohaclone/misc/migration_tools/bulkmarcimport.pl -a -file GODDALL.279 -match='010,a' -v results in: 19:46 cait I think we use the other scripts, for staged marc import 19:46 cait so no 19:47 rangi I do that from the stage marc records 19:47 talljoy unable to search the database for duplicates : No query entered at /home/load07/kohaclone/misc/migration_tools/bulkmarcimport.pl line 217, <GEN15> line 1. 19:47 rangi gimme 40mins 19:47 rangi and ill be at my computer 19:47 rangi and ill look at the code 19:47 talljoy thanks. will table this issue and work on another. 19:47 talljoy rangi++ 19:48 aarkerio talljoy, thx! 19:53 rangi @wunder wellington nz 19:53 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 7.0�C (7:00 AM NZST on September 02, 2011). Conditions: Rain Showers. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 4.0�C. Windchill: 3.0�C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Rising). 19:53 Brooke I would claim taunting, but that's some crap weather ye're havin 19:53 rangi southerly 19:56 wizzyrea brr 19:56 aarkerio I ,ma new in Koha, I see "Availability: No items available" in all search results books 19:57 rangi what version? 19:57 rangi and you definitely have items? 19:58 aarkerio http://decodic.incan.edu.mx/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=cancer 19:58 rangi what version of koha? 19:59 cait @wunder konstanz 19:59 wizzyrea searching faq? 19:59 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 17.1�C (9:58 PM CEST on September 01, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 29.93 in 1013.4 hPa (Steady). 19:59 wahanui rumour has it searching faq is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/searching/ 19:59 Brooke oh that's interesting. They are available from the details screen... 19:59 wizzyrea *nod* I was noting that 19:59 rangi yep 20:00 aarkerio this is the item: http://mononeurona.org/img/imgusers/aarkerio_2271.png 20:00 rangi which means its most like an indexing thing 20:00 rangi make sure you are running zebra 20:00 aarkerio Koha version: 3.04.02.000 20:00 wizzyrea well it brought back results 20:00 rangi yes 20:00 rangi so does nozebra 20:00 rangi but not items 20:01 wizzyrea but right, if zebra isn't running it wouldn't catch it if he added items after the initial index 20:01 rangi or if using nozebra then it never will 20:01 wizzyrea aarkerio: are you running in nozebra? 20:01 wizzyrea aside, I thought we took away that option 20:02 wizzyrea for new installs. 20:02 Brooke (It's nearly dead.) 20:02 rangi we did, but if u upgraded 20:02 rangi or went in sysprefs 20:03 rangi but my guess is either the cronjob isn't running or nozebra mode 20:03 aarkerio No I running Zebra, I have one item and is listed in search 20:03 rangi oh oh 20:03 rangi so items are showing then? 20:04 hguewmLibrarian Good Day 20:04 wizzyrea hi :) 20:04 aarkerio yes, you can see items in OPAC but also "Availability: No items available" 20:04 aarkerio hola! 20:04 cait hi hguewmLibrarian 20:05 hguewmLibrarian So i'm trying to hunt down records that have NULL for item type; because they're avoiding the overdue trigger. Is there an easy way to do this? 20:05 hguewmLibrarian hey cait! 20:05 cait :) 20:05 cait I would try a custom report 20:05 rangi aarkerio: do you have xslt switched on? 20:06 wizzyrea http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/SQL_Reports_Library#Null_Item_Type 20:06 wizzyrea try that report hguewmLibrarian 20:06 cait :) 20:06 hguewmLibrarian okie dokie! 20:06 wizzyrea you know how to add a report from sql right? 20:07 aarkerio rangi, thanks for your help, wher can I if check XSLT is off? 20:07 rangi in systempreferences in opac tab 20:07 hguewmLibrarian yup, most definitely Wizzy 20:07 wizzyrea awesomesauce 20:07 rangi if changing that fixes it, I think its a index problem 20:08 rangi so try a full reindex 20:08 aarkerio DisplayOPACiconsXSLT = Show 20:10 rangi ok my stop 20:10 rangi bbiab 20:10 hguewmLibrarian so.. I add it, run it and get blank table. I'm betting it's whitespace error.... 20:11 wizzyrea XSLTResultsDisplay is what you're looking for aarkerio 20:11 cait have yo changed the items.homebranch bit? 20:11 wizzyrea if it's on "using XSLT stylesheets" change it to "normal" 20:11 cait hguewmLibrarian: AND items.homebranch='LIBRARY'? 20:12 hguewmLibrarian ? nope... can it be ANY? 20:12 wizzyrea OPACXSLT i mean 20:12 aarkerio Works!! this thing is great! 20:12 wizzyrea no, just get rid of that bit 20:12 aarkerio thanks guys! 20:12 wizzyrea yw aarkerio 20:12 wizzyrea but seriously, reindex :P 20:12 cait hguewmLibrarian: what wizzyrea said - delete it if you don't want to run it for a specific library 20:13 hguewmLibrarian yup yup! geniuses! 20:13 hguewmLibrarian it works now 20:13 cait :) 20:13 hguewmLibrarian muchas gracias 20:13 wizzyrea yw 20:13 hguewmLibrarian this is definitely the place where the koha ninja guru live 20:13 wizzyrea tee hee 20:13 Brooke don't tell anyone 20:14 wizzyrea ^^ 20:14 cait and soon you will be a koha ninja guru too :) 20:14 Brooke liz likes her foggy mountain retreat. 20:14 wizzyrea ... but I live in kansas? 20:14 wizzyrea no foggy mountains in kansas, silly. 20:14 hguewmLibrarian no... this grasshopper has many many more lessons before guru status 20:14 cait retreat in a field of sunflowers? 20:14 wizzyrea see, cait knows. :) 20:14 cait :) 20:15 hguewmLibrarian ah... true kansas ninja can run/hide in cornfield w/o getting a scratch! 20:15 cait and without sneezing from hay fever 20:15 hguewmLibrarian how about.. without detection! 20:15 pelletiermaxime Has someone ever changed the value of an existing branches.branchcode ? Trying to look at what it would break 20:15 cait I have.. but it's not nice 20:16 cait you might be better off creating a new branch and changing the items to use that, but means creating new rules and everything too 20:16 wizzyrea this is as close to foggy mountains as you'll get in kansas: http://www.prairiepathways.com/PrairieDust/images/20080405182935_dawn_road_and_fence_bw.jpg 20:17 cait nice pic! 20:17 hguewmLibrarian eh, come to Fresno, CA.. we'll hide you in the fog banks 20:17 pelletiermaxime sure wish there was a simple int pk in that table :/ 20:17 hguewmLibrarian OK followup Question: Is there a simple way change the item types of these records to BK (Book)? 20:18 wizzyrea yep 20:18 wizzyrea you can use the batch edit 20:18 hguewmLibrarian enlighten me oh wise one 20:18 hguewmLibrarian what is this batch edit thou dost speak 20:18 cait pelletiermaxime: why do you need to change it? 20:18 wizzyrea more -> tools -> batch idem modification 20:18 cait pelletiermaxime: an int pk would make sql queries harder 20:18 wizzyrea idem? sheesh 20:19 wizzyrea item* 20:19 pelletiermaxime cait: because the client is asking to change it :/ 20:19 cait that's why we don't let our customers select their branchcodes 20:19 cait we use their ISIL 20:19 hguewmLibrarian okie -> what now? 20:20 wizzyrea so now 20:20 wizzyrea you can modify your report to pull only barcodes 20:20 cait hguewmLibrarian: I think you might want to get a barcode list with the report first 20:20 wizzyrea and save them to a file, one on each line 20:20 wizzyrea or paste them into the box, one on each line 20:20 wizzyrea then click continue 20:20 cait pelletiermaxime: is the library already in production? 20:20 hguewmLibrarian *sifting* 20:20 pelletiermaxime cait: yes 20:21 slef yo pelletiermaxime catch you later :) 20:21 * slef goes to dinner 20:21 cait in theory, you need to change at least: branches, items, issuingrules, perhaps issues/reserves, ... 20:21 slef slef? 20:21 wahanui you are a proponent of all things cooperative 20:21 slef heh 20:21 cait the only time I did it was for a library not having checked out anything yet 20:22 cait we got a space before the branchcode accidently, which caused lots of problems 20:22 wizzyrea report like this hguewmLibrarian: SELECT items.barcode 20:22 wizzyrea FROM items 20:22 wizzyrea WHERE items.itype IS NULL 20:22 pelletiermaxime cait: ok, thanks for the help. I'm going to try as hard as I can to tell them it's not a good idea :P 20:22 wizzyrea oops, sorry 20:22 cait pelletiermaxime: possible is everything, but I think it's probably easy to miss something here 20:22 wizzyrea make that SELECT items.barcode FROM items WHERE items.itype IS NULL 20:22 wizzyrea should spit them all out for you 20:23 rangi pelletiermaxime: the places likely to be missed, that arent foreign keyed would be accountlines and statistics 20:23 rangi its doable, but like people have said, could be messy 20:23 * hguewmLibrarian modified the first one to show the barcodes... but yeah gonna use the second solution 20:24 wizzyrea I think if you save the output of the report as tab, you can use that as your barcode file 20:24 wizzyrea (but I've never tried it) 20:24 rangi so aarkerio is from mexico, where is mr brunk from i wonder? 20:25 cait or download open in excel and copy/paste 20:25 wizzyrea ^^ 20:25 hguewmLibrarian senor brunk aprendi espanol en las calles de un pequeno ciudad nombrado chicago 20:25 rangi s/excel/[libreoffice|gnumeric]/ 20:25 cait ah sorry 20:25 rangi :) 20:26 hguewmLibrarian does that help rangi? 20:27 * wizzyrea thinks of excel like fridge - the originally corporate name for the now generic construct of "spreadsheet program" 20:27 hguewmLibrarian mi ortografia y gramatica, pues no merece buenas marcas 20:27 rangi hguewmLibrarian: nope, cos im from nz and speak maori and english, no espanol :) 20:27 Brooke He's from Chitown 20:27 rangi but i got the chicago bit 20:28 Brooke get us da sausage! 20:28 wizzyrea and the pizza. 20:28 hguewmLibrarian i learned spanish on the streets 20:28 * wizzyrea demands pizza. 20:28 Brooke dude 20:28 wizzyrea i tease. 20:28 Brooke you go to Champaign for Pizza. 20:28 hguewmLibrarian even after a bachelors in spanish, they couldn't fix my grammar 20:28 wizzyrea whatevs. 20:28 Brooke I will learn you pizza! 20:29 wizzyrea i'm not uh, perhaps as much of a pizza connisseur as you. 20:29 hguewmLibrarian pizza the hutt! 20:29 hguewmLibrarian maybe a cat named pizza 20:29 wizzyrea i like cheese, does that count? 20:29 wizzyrea ^.^ 20:29 cait hm 20:29 aarkerio when I am capturing ISBN is better 84-7903-706-7 or 8479037067 ? 20:29 cait need some help: Several letters where generated if a borrower had overdues with different due_date triggering the same level 20:29 wizzyrea no dashes is better 20:29 rangi the later 20:29 wahanui hmmm... the later is better 20:29 rangi latter even 20:30 aarkerio cool! 20:30 cait how could 2 iems with different due dates trigger the same notice level? 20:30 wizzyrea different dates but in the same range? 20:30 * hguewmLibrarian bows to koha ninja gurus 20:30 cait oh 20:30 wizzyrea for notice? 20:30 hguewmLibrarian works like magic! 20:30 rangi cait: that was part of the bug 20:30 cait not using triggered perhaps? 20:31 wizzyrea what's the number again? 20:31 cait there is no range actually 20:31 rangi it used to just use the latest one 20:31 cait but 6292 20:31 cait which is wat is confusing me 20:31 cait rangi: I know - I complained about that often enough :) 20:31 Brooke bug 6292 20:31 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6292 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , Overdue notices have a bug when multiple overdues exist 20:31 rangi :) 20:31 rangi so much that i fixed it 20:31 cait I am trying to figure out how to test the lates fix from sophie 20:31 rangi the squeaky wheel and all that 20:32 cait you call a squeaky wheel? 20:32 cait and I thought one of your libraries complained about it too... :) 20:32 rangi its a saying 20:32 rangi 'a squeaky wheel gets the grease' 20:32 rangi yep plant and food complained 20:33 cait plant_and_food++ 20:33 cait ok, back to my problem 20:33 cait I don't understand the case sophie is trying to fix 20:33 wizzyrea ok wait, is her latest patch saying that a member won't get 2 notices if they have 2 overdue items that are not on the same date? I thought that was desired behavior, one notice for each overdue item 20:33 cait because items with different due dates can't be in the same range 20:33 cait because we have a one day range with notice triggers 20:34 rangi yeah, 20:34 rangi im puzzled too 20:34 cait hehe 20:34 rangi sorry, i shoulda read it more 20:34 wizzyrea i'm so confused. 20:34 hguewmLibrarian sweet! i answered my own question! 20:34 hguewmLibrarian i forgot to account for a graceperiod 20:35 wizzyrea what's the rank below "ninja guru" 20:35 hguewmLibrarian much thanks again 20:35 hguewmLibrarian toadstool? 20:35 Brooke figgerinityerself++ 20:35 wizzyrea uh 20:35 wizzyrea lol 20:35 talljoy i step out for a few minutes and koha goes to town. :) 20:35 Brooke shhhhh 20:35 wizzyrea the party always starts when rangi gets here 20:35 rangi oh thats right 20:35 Brooke u guise, she's back. 20:35 wizzyrea and brooke 20:35 rangi i was gonna look up somethign for talljoy 20:35 aarkerio BTW, why when I am capturing a title must end with "/" 20:35 talljoy yes, please. 20:36 wizzyrea that's ISBD punctuation 20:36 talljoy bulkmarcimport for authorities and matching! 20:36 rangi talljoy: master branch? 20:36 talljoy yes 20:36 talljoy always. ;-) 20:36 * hguewmLibrarian poofs 20:36 rangi looking now 20:37 cait aarkerio: there is not really a reasonable reason for it. it's in the standard... 20:37 sekjal that latest patch on 6292 looks wrong 20:37 Brooke the answer is always cataloguers were potty trained at gunpoint. 20:38 rangi thanks sekjal 20:38 aarkerio I see when I import from Lib Congress auotmatically set "/" after title in MARC 20:38 sekjal it's adding a new value in the select in one part, but then removing that value in the fetchrow 20:38 sekjal err, no 20:38 sekjal my bad 20:39 sekjal but I still don't understand what it's supposed to accomplish 20:39 cait rangi: left a commenton the bug 20:39 sekjal perhaps it only works without the -t flag? 20:39 rangi thanks people 20:40 cait sekjal: I think that might be it - but without -t - are there levels? 20:40 sekjal cait: not sure, we always run with -t 20:40 cait I thought you give it only a min max and it will output everything in there 20:41 cait yep, we do that too 20:42 rangi talljoy have you tried -match=010a 20:42 rangi without the '' or , 20:42 talljoy yes 20:43 cait sekjal: I am really looking to see that fix go in, it's really hard to explain the current behaviour to the libraries 20:43 talljoy .Use of uninitialized value $recorddata in pattern match (m//) at /home/load07/kohaclone/misc/migration_tools/bulkmarcimport.pl line 392, <GEN15> line 1. 20:43 talljoy unable to search the database for duplicates : No query entered at /home/load07/kohaclone/misc/migration_tools/bulkmarcimport.pl line 217, <GEN15> line 1. 20:43 cait sekjal: and if someone could make the notice triggers follow the calendar.. it would be even better :) 20:44 sekjal cait: as libsysguy was saying on list, the whole system needs an overhaul 20:44 cait I agree 20:44 cait but overhauls take time 20:44 sekjal very true 20:44 rangi hmmm 20:45 sekjal it's one of the things I'd like to define Koha 4.0 20:45 cait uhoh rangi is hmming 20:45 cait new accounts will be a good first step 20:45 cait because fines are also involved in that 20:45 rangi i have to go read some perl doc 20:47 libsysguy oh hey my name came up 20:47 libsysguy yeah I started the wiki for that but it is in some desperate need of formatting 20:48 Brooke did someone say wiki jiggering? 20:48 wizzyrea uhoh rangi? 20:48 wahanui somebody said uhoh rangi was hmming 20:48 wizzyrea LOL 20:49 rangi right the pod is wrong 20:50 rangi you have to pass it an index 20:50 rangi matchindex,fieldtomatch 20:51 talljoy i couldn't figure out what it was asking me for there. 20:51 talljoy what is it considering a 'matchindex'? 20:51 rangi so whats the index on 010 i wonder 20:51 rangi lemme look 20:51 sekjal shouldn't bulkmarcimport just use matching rules? 20:51 rangi it should 20:51 sekjal that would be much more robust 20:51 rangi it doesnt 20:51 sekjal well..... it should! 20:51 rangi which is why i use stage marc import 20:51 * sekjal pouts 20:52 sekjal sorry, long day 20:52 cait talljoy: the name of the zebraindex 20:52 wizzyrea he's so cute when he does that. 20:52 cait hehe 20:52 cait never seen him oding it before, but yes 20:52 cait sekjal: I know how you feel 20:52 wizzyrea stick your lip out like that and a little birdie will come along and poo on it! 20:52 rangi LC-card-number 20:53 rangi looks like it 20:53 rangi try 20:53 wizzyrea did you laugh? tell me you laughed. 20:53 rangi LC-card-number,010 20:54 * sekjal is trying to do a serials migration when there is no reliable mapping from old biblio ID to new 20:54 sekjal laughter is a ways off 20:54 cait libsysguy: I am interested in talking about the notification rfc - I have lots of complaints about the way thinks are currently 20:54 wizzyrea :( 20:54 talljoy ok...let me fire that up. 20:55 talljoy rangi: it likes that much better. it is chugging along through the file now. 20:55 talljoy thanks! 20:56 sekjal okay, gtg. probably back later 20:56 hilongo Hello #koha :) 20:57 rangi hiya hilongo 20:58 hilongo how's the channel doing ;) 20:58 hilongo I have a small question ... 20:59 rangi larry didnt want to hear it 21:00 wizzyrea lulz 21:00 wizzyrea east coast quittin' time 21:00 hilongo Is there a way to autofill a MARC field upon saving the record? Explain: We would like to autogenerate the 001 field's value with the biblionumber 21:00 wizzyrea @quote get 123 21:00 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) 21:00 * wizzyrea nods 21:01 rangi you could write a plugin, like we have for leader and 007 etc 21:02 hilongo yeah .. I thought that ... but when you create a biblio... there is no biblionumber to assign yet... 21:02 libsysguy cait we are too 21:02 rangi true good point 21:02 rangi youd have to hack at the save code then 21:02 libsysguy I just don't know how to meet about it...first timer on big project development 21:02 hilongo so it should be activated upon saving the record 21:02 libsysguy with a distributed group 21:03 rangi libsysguy: call a meeting time on the mailing list, say 2pm such and such on irc to talk about blah 21:03 cait we could have an irc meeting 21:03 cait but perhaps cleaning up the wiki page would be a good start too 21:03 cait going to take a look at it now 21:04 rangi hilongo: you'd need to do it with a systemprefernce, so you could upstream it, otherwise youd have to keep remaking the change 21:04 libsysguy eek cait don't make fun 21:04 cait libsysguy: do you see the way fines are calculated as part of the notification system? 21:04 libsysguy i see the fines script 21:04 cait make fun about ? 21:04 libsysguy the wiki rfc page 21:05 wizzyrea I think he's afraid that you'll make fun of him for some self-perceived weakness in his wiki skills 21:05 libsysguy ^^ 21:05 * wizzyrea pats libsysguy 21:05 wizzyrea cait is gentle and sweet. 21:05 * libsysguy sobs quietly 21:05 cait oh 21:05 cait no never 21:05 cait not as long as we are using mediawiki 21:06 wizzyrea see :) 21:06 cait I will never get the syntax of that 21:06 cait have to look up everything 21:06 libsysguy haha 21:06 * cait sends libsysguy a cookie 21:06 wizzyrea she also has cookies. 21:07 * libsysguy loves cookies 21:07 cait virtual cookies, practically no calories ;) 21:08 Agent_Dani Mmm, cookies 21:08 libsysguy most excellent 21:08 * cait puts a bowl of cookies in the middle of #koha 21:08 * libsysguy is dating a Swede who makes him not eat sweets 21:08 libsysguy cait: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Notifications_RFC 21:08 cait oh 21:09 libsysguy got it formatted...kind of 21:09 cait libsysguy: I am in there already 21:09 cait had to look up how to do bullet lists... 21:09 cait again 21:09 libsysguy oh haha i already cleaned it up 21:09 cait oh 21:09 libsysguy or was that you 21:09 cait now you took my evening fun away 21:09 libsysguy aww im sorry 21:09 libsysguy fwiw i had to look it up too 21:09 libsysguy im just a pretty quick typist 21:09 cait I got distracted :) 21:09 wizzyrea * for unordered list 21:09 wizzyrea # for numbered 21:09 wizzyrea :P 21:10 libsysguy hehe 21:10 libsysguy ** for more indentions 21:10 cait yep, but it's space * in dokuwiki 21:10 wizzyrea ^^ 21:10 cait or even space space 21:10 wizzyrea mhm 21:10 * Agent_Dani gives cait a shiny thing to distract. 21:10 wizzyrea i did a bit of wording cleanup on 21:10 wizzyrea version control using git? 21:10 wahanui well, version control using git is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git 21:10 libsysguy reminds me of that programming language you write in white space 21:10 cait oh shiny! 21:10 wizzyrea it's functionally the same 21:11 cait brainf**? 21:11 wizzyrea it was just bugging m 21:11 wizzyrea me 21:11 wizzyrea the headings made no sense 21:11 aarkerio hi! If I have a Bibtex file, How can I import it in Koha? 21:11 cait hm you can#t currently 21:11 cait you have to convert it to marc 21:12 aarkerio I have this book: 21:12 aarkerio http://books.google.com/books/about/Cirug%C3%ADa_del_tracto_gastrointestinal.html?id=uvvmAAAACAAJ 21:13 aarkerio and I see google gives the option to "Export Citation" in three formats: Bibtex, Endnote, and RefMaN 21:13 aarkerio what is the best option? 21:14 cait I think I would try getting it from a z39.50 server 21:14 cait searching by title or isbn 21:16 aarkerio no, is not in Congress Library 21:17 cait libsysguy: i added one point to your rfc 21:20 yhager I rebooted my machine and now zebrasrv is not running, and I forgot the command line. Can anyone point me to where to find it? 21:20 cait /etc/init.d/koha-zebra... something start 21:21 yhager cait: no such ini file here 21:21 cait hm 21:22 cait i think you have to put it there during installation 21:22 yhager cait: can you just tell me how to run it for now, I'll build the startup script later? 21:23 cait can someone else perhaps? not sure how to do it 21:23 cait getting late here - good night all :) 21:23 yhager cait: run: ps auwx|grep zebra 21:24 wizzyrea yhager it should be in the install.debian file 21:24 wizzyrea in your koha directory 21:24 wizzyrea how to do that 21:25 yhager wizzyrea: found it, thanks 21:25 wizzyrea yw :) 21:25 yhager I should really add a startup script though. (I am using the Archlinux package I built myself..) 21:25 bg NateC? 21:25 wahanui I LIKE SPACE! 21:27 wizzyrea rangi? 21:27 wahanui I LIKE ALMONDS! HAVE SOME NUTS! 21:28 wizzyrea bg? 21:28 wahanui I LIKE BREAKFAST BURRITOS AND I LOVE BASEBALL 21:28 * wizzyrea nods 21:28 cait wizzyrea? 21:28 cait ! 21:28 talljoy cait? 21:28 wahanui cait is probably kf or a programmer or really sweet or a source of great chocolate or the purveyor of an infinite supply of virtual cookies or not sure we need the page(s)... but that might just be me 21:28 wizzyrea kf? 21:28 wahanui rumour has it kf is cait or really, really sweet. or <reply>she gives me memory loss 21:28 cait talljoy? 21:28 wahanui I CRUNCH DATA 21:28 libsysguy sorry cait i was afk...what does a point do? 21:28 talljoy LOL 21:29 wizzyrea lol 21:29 libsysguy ohh 21:29 libsysguy you mean a bullet point 21:29 libsysguy gotcha 21:29 cait :) 21:29 talljoy I eat me sum data for breakfast 21:29 talljoy crunchy good 21:29 cait can someone kick me? so hard to leave 21:29 wizzyrea nom nom nom 21:29 cait hehe 21:29 rangi oh so 21:29 rangi i missed, did that work talljoy ? 21:29 talljoy yes, it did import like a champ. what is the script that links authorities to bibs? 21:30 rangi oh that thing 21:30 talljoy that i hear works sometimes and sometimes not.... 21:30 rangi i dont trust that thing 21:30 talljoy yeah..... 21:30 cait ok, that's a good moment to leave 21:30 talljoy lol 21:30 wizzyrea go cait go! 21:30 rangi yeah, i have about 70% success with it 21:30 talljoy i need to try it. 21:30 talljoy i have a comfy test environment to run it in. 21:30 wizzyrea "comfy" 21:30 talljoy i promise not to blow up client's production system with it. 21:30 talljoy comfy for data. 21:30 rangi misc/link_bibs_to_authorities.pl 21:31 talljoy do i need to worry about reindexing before running that? 21:31 rangi yes 21:31 talljoy best options for bibs? -a -r -x -v? 21:31 talljoy no x? 21:31 rangi no x for -a 21:31 libsysguy wizzyrea how do you do a "next time x comes on the irc send them this" 21:31 talljoy awesome. thx 21:31 rangi you have reindexed your biblios too eh? 21:32 talljoy i will 21:32 rangi you want both indexes up to date 21:32 wizzyrea @later tell whoever what you want to tell them 21:32 huginn wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. 21:32 talljoy that's the plan for tonight while dinner is cooking 21:32 rangi cool 21:32 wizzyrea you can also do it in a /msg to huginn 21:32 rangi make mine a double helping 21:32 wizzyrea yum dinner. 21:33 wizzyrea talljoy's cookin! 21:33 libsysguy @later sekjal will you look over http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Notifications_RFC and let me know when would be a good time to schedule an IRC meeting? 21:33 huginn libsysguy: I've exhausted my database of quotes 21:33 talljoy mmmmmmm. 21:33 wizzyrea @later tell 21:33 huginn wizzyrea: (later tell <nick> <text>) -- Tells <nick> <text> the next time <nick> is in seen. <nick> can contain wildcard characters, and the first matching nick will be given the note. 21:33 libsysguy oops 21:33 wizzyrea :) 21:33 wizzyrea @quote random 21:33 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #141: "library_systems_guy: w00t I'm officially part of something cool :)" (added by wizzyrea at 04:18 PM, June 03, 2011) 21:34 libsysguy @later tell sekjal will you look over http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Notifications_RFC and let me know when would be a good time to schedule an IRC meeting? 21:34 huginn libsysguy: The operation succeeded. 21:34 libsysguy phew 21:34 wizzyrea @quote random 21:34 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #62: "<fallor> is this a known thingy?" (added by gmcharlt at 01:18 PM, February 26, 2010) 21:34 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn. 21:34 libsysguy i was afraid id break huginn 21:34 wizzyrea his spirit will never be broken! 21:35 wizzyrea @quote random 21:35 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #151: "<seneca> you guys are my heroes" (added by wizzyrea at 07:41 PM, August 31, 2011) 21:35 libsysguy oh oh let me try 21:35 libsysguy @quote random 21:35 huginn libsysguy: Quote #142: "Pianohacker: hrm. What's the plural of ILS again? Rangi: ILSESESESESESES" (added by wizzyrea at 08:54 PM, June 08, 2011) 21:35 wizzyrea lol. that's a good one. 21:35 libsysguy that is a good one 21:36 libsysguy libsysguy? 21:36 wahanui well, libsysguy is Koha's hottest developer or partying with swedes on his deck 21:36 libsysguy hehe 21:36 wizzyrea it's 4:30 CDT, we start getting kooky. 21:36 wizzyrea @quote random 21:36 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #73: "<chris_n> owen: try /msg munin identify nick password" (added by owen at 12:38 PM, April 29, 2010) 21:36 wizzyrea interesting that it would fall on a 3 21:36 wizzyrea @quote get 23 21:36 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #23: "<gmcharlt> /msg munin register nick password" (added by wizzyrea_ at 04:25 PM, August 06, 2009) 21:37 wizzyrea oo, identify vs register. 21:37 bg ah it's only 2:30 21:37 wizzyrea for you, sucka 21:37 rangi 9.30am 21:37 libsysguy CDT ftw 21:37 rangi slackers 21:37 rangi get to work 21:37 libsysguy dang it rangi 21:37 wizzyrea hrmph. 21:37 libsysguy and its friday there too 21:37 libsysguy boo 21:37 * wizzyrea saves the knock knock jokes for tomorrow 21:40 talljoy it's almost happy hour here in Texas. 21:40 talljoy i'm feeling thirsty 21:42 rangi http://soundcloud.com/a-skillz/abc-a-skillz-remix <-- for you libsysguy 21:44 rhcl hot diggidy dog. I'm going to LITA, got my grant $$. 21:44 rangi sweet 21:45 libsysguy excellent 21:45 rhcl wish I had cohorts going w/ though. hint hint 21:45 rangi when/where is it? 21:46 rhcl St. Louis, Missouri Sept 30 - Oct 2 21:47 rhcl most grants are cost share, typically 75% - 25%, but this one was 100% 21:47 rangi ah not me then ;) 21:48 rhcl any particular propaganda/evangelism people want to spread besides the usual? 21:48 rhcl wish I had a classy polo style Koha shirt 21:48 bg everyone should switch to microsoft 21:48 bg HA 21:49 rangi mention libravatar 21:49 bg ok I'm back to my hole 21:49 rhcl can do. libravatar 21:49 rangi and freedombox 21:49 rhcl freedombox 21:49 bg surprised I didn't get booted for that one ;) 21:49 rangi https://www.libravatar.org/ and https://www.freedomboxfoundation.org/ 21:50 rangi stuff to keep our kids fre 21:50 rangi e 21:50 rangi thats all ive got 21:50 rangi :) 21:51 rhcl ah, yes, I've read up on freedombox previously. I need to keep track of that project 21:51 rangi yeah its really interesting 22:00 rhcl so does FulfILLment replace OCLC? 22:00 rangi wouldnt that be awesome 22:00 rangi :) 22:00 wizzyrea it could replace something like AGent 22:01 rangi or the relais one.. whatever thats called 22:01 rangi oh hey, did anyone else read kmkales email about kohacon, with the papers in it? 22:03 talljoy sidenote: I answered an email on the listserv and it appears to have gotten 'lost', i.e. my reply did not get sent to the list and is not in the archive for that message. 22:03 aarkerio I see in some pages ISBN-10 and ISBN-13, why? 22:05 rangi hmm lemme see if it got held 22:05 rangi in the meantime you can watch the new improv anywhere 22:06 rangi http://improveverywhere.com/2011/08/22/say-something-nice/ 22:06 rangi :) 22:06 rangi talljoy: which mailing list? 22:06 talljoy koha community 22:06 rangi the main one, or koha-devel ? 22:06 talljoy main one 22:06 rangi hmm dont see it 22:07 rangi its not being held for moderation at least 22:07 talljoy i'm trying to login to see my options and I can't remember my password and it's not sending it to me either. 22:09 rangi i know katipo used to run greylisting, so it may take a while for it to get through if its the first one you have sent from that address 22:11 talljoy greylisted.....sounds so much more ominous than blacklisted 22:11 talljoy like being arrested and not charge. 22:11 talljoy charged. 22:11 talljoy ;-) 22:11 rangi its like that 22:11 rangi purgatory 22:11 rangi :) 22:12 rangi https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Greylisting 22:12 talljoy rejection hurts.....:'( 22:14 talljoy but, I shall soldier on. 22:14 talljoy lol 22:34 rangi heh 23:28 rangi heya druthb 23:28 druthb hi, rangi!