Time Nick Message
01:38 talljoy_away yo
01:41 Agent_Dani oy
01:41 eythian yoyo
01:41 Agent_Dani Yeah, that's me. ;)
01:56 talljoy_away lol
02:02 * Agent_Dani is trying to convince herself that she's doing The Right Thing.
02:04 eythian ITS GOING TO ALL GO HORRIBLY WRONG
02:04 eythian does that help?
02:05 Agent_Dani Ah, there's the lettle satyr on the other shoulder!
02:17 talljoy_away Agent_Dani: fake it until you make it
02:18 Agent_Dani talljoy_away: hehe
02:18 Agent_Dani The thing in question is attending uni while working full-time.
02:18 eythian I did that for a while
02:19 eythian I don't really recommend it unless you're really good at time management
02:19 eythian (I'm not)
02:20 Agent_Dani That's my weakness but I am working on it.
02:20 Agent_Dani Right now I'm doing only one class per semester so it isn't costing me tuition, but I'll probably consider changing that in the future so it doesn't take 10 years to complete my BS.
02:21 eythian Yeah, you could probably get away with 1/4th-1/2 of a regular course maybe. When I was doing it, it was postgrad which was a mixed blessing.
02:21 * Agent_Dani nods
02:22 Agent_Dani Not helping is that my employer is quite inflexible about this.
02:23 Agent_Dani I.e. I couldn't get any flexibility in my 07:00-15:00 hours even with a 19:30-20:45 class.
02:23 * Agent_Dani notes here that she is employed by the uni in question.
02:24 eythian ah, that's surprising then.
02:24 eythian I thought a uni would be good with, y'know, uni.
02:24 Agent_Dani Not so much this place.
02:25 Agent_Dani At least specific managers, and I will consider going over my managers head if that becomes necessary, e.g. when I need to take Calculus which I cannot do outside of my usual work schedule.
02:27 Agent_Dani Anyhow, that's my hour of free time for today. Goodnight!
02:29 eythian bye
03:25 druthb o/
03:26 eythian I'm starting to develop a problem with o'Reilly ebooks. I keep buying them every time I encounter something I need to know about. It's a fiendish scheme they've got going on.
03:27 druthb it is a clever scheme, eythian.
03:27 eythian The android market makes it a little too easy.
03:32 druthb It's the modern version of putting the cookies right next to the checkout at the grocery...
03:36 eythian it is very much
05:13 Judit hi
05:13 wahanui que tal, Judit
05:13 Judit is there an easy way to change on the /cgi-bin/koha/opac-user.pl the "If you don't have a password yet, stop by the circulation desk the next time you're in the library. We'll happily set one up for you.
05:13 Judit " text
05:13 Judit there is no syspref is there?
05:16 eythian I don't think so
05:16 eythian there ought to be, and it wouldn't be hard to do.
05:17 eythian I think the standard is to rewrite it with Javascript, which isn't a great solution.
05:17 Judit not great?
05:18 eythian it works mostly. Unless the person doesn't have JS turned on. But it's just not a very nice solution. A syspref or similar would be nicer.
05:18 eythian Well, actually, ideally you'd make it understand languages.
05:18 Judit so it is doable
05:18 Judit just not nice
05:18 eythian yep
05:19 eythian it'll work pretty much fine with javascript.
05:19 Judit how much work approx
05:19 Judit :)
05:19 eythian 10 minutes
05:19 Judit :D
05:19 Judit do make a syspref
05:19 Judit ?
05:19 eythian no, to do it with javascript
05:19 Judit and to do the syspref?
05:20 eythian I don't know. In a simple way, an hour or two, but I'd like to run it by other people, as it wouldn't work with multiple languages very well.
05:21 eythian And it may require building some way of translating editable messages, which is pretty messy.
05:21 eythian or, would need to be implemented fromt he ground up
05:21 eythian and that's a significant amount of work.
05:21 Judit thanks
05:21 Judit have you seen this: http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/5521175/Hurricane-Irene-just-like-Wellington
05:22 Judit made me think of you :D
05:22 eythian heh. Yeah, I hear the winds didn't even get to 100km/h, so really just light breezes.
05:22 Judit light breeze :D
05:22 Judit no that is notnormal
05:22 eythian http://www.myacpl.org/koha/?p=160 <-- customising the OPAC using CSS and JS
05:35 cait good morning #koha
05:58 fredericd cait: Are you invistigating a solution for bug 6750?
05:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6750 critical, P5, ---, frederic, NEW , Guarantor search broken on translated templates
05:58 cait fredericd: not yet
05:59 cait i thought fixing the translation processing bug would perhap fix it - but I see the file for the search itself is not in the list
06:00 cait fredericd: also the test is complaining about some things I don't know how to fix
06:00 fredericd It won't work in this case, even it's a related bug
06:00 cait fredericd: the first few results that have no patch are some of those
06:00 fredericd the issue comes from a complex JS
06:02 cait can you fix it?
06:02 fredericd Could you do a synthesis of the work in progress on the templates bug? what have been done, what have to be done
06:02 fredericd for 6750, I don't know, I take a look
06:02 cait fredericd: i can try to do so tomororw
06:03 cait planning to sign-off on owen's patches
06:03 cait and perhaps apply all of them at one and see what's still missing
06:03 fredericd Ok. If I can't fix 6750, I will leave a comment on BZ
06:03 cait ok
06:03 cait tomorrow is gbsd
06:04 cait hope a lot of things will get signed off
06:05 eythian oh, is it. Damn, rangi and I were thinking of finding a pub with free wifi and knocking off a bunch of them, but I don't know if he'll be in tomorrow.
06:06 alex_a bonjour #koha
06:09 cait you can still do that in 2 weeks
06:09 cait but I hope he will be better toda
06:09 cait y
06:09 cait and hi robin :)
06:10 eythian hello :)
06:17 cait bonjour alex_a and hdl
06:20 alex_a hello cait
06:20 alex_a and eythian
06:20 wahanui hmmm... eythian is in NZ. ;) or a good influence
06:20 alex_a and all
06:20 eythian hiya
06:20 eythian wahanui: why can't it be both‽
06:20 wahanui eythian: huh?
06:28 cait or means both can be true
06:28 * cait spends to much time with boolean algebra lately
06:29 cait although I really doubt that you are a good influence on wahanui
06:31 eythian the best influence I think you mean!
06:31 lastnode hi, i dunno if some of you remember me, but I'm an English teacher from Colombo, Sri Lanka who is trying to pitch Koha to his school administration
06:31 lastnode ive shown the librarian and she seems imperssed
06:32 lastnode id like to outline a technical setup i have in mind and get some feedback from you guys
06:32 lastnode is there a mailing list i can use for that?
06:32 cait eythian: I still remember the germ thing!
06:33 eythian lastnode: the regular koha list
06:33 cait mailinglists?
06:33 cait mailing lists?
06:33 wahanui mailing lists are at http://koha-community.org/support/koha-mailing-lists/
06:33 lastnode thanks eythian
06:33 lastnode and wahanui
06:33 wahanui rumour has it i am a repository of important and useful and accurate information
06:33 cait wahanui has the link for you :)
06:33 wahanui cait: i'm not following you...
06:33 cait it's ok wahanui
06:33 eythian cait: the germ this is the Truth! Why are you suppressing it?!
06:33 cait lastnode: wahanui is our bot :)
06:33 lastnode the main list - http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha ?
06:33 lastnode oh my bad
06:34 lastnode well bots deserve tahnks, too!
06:34 cait and cookies
06:34 cait wahanui botsnack cookie
06:34 wahanui :)
06:34 cait eythian: hmpf!
06:34 eythian wahanui: the main list is at http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
06:34 wahanui OK, eythian.
06:35 eythian wahanui: germs is <reply>Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world.
06:35 wahanui ...but germs is <reply>...
06:35 lastnode thanks,ill drop an email after work today
06:35 eythian no wahanui, germs is <reply>Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world.
06:35 wahanui okay, eythian.
06:35 cait grrr
06:35 eythian :D
06:35 lastnode im considering running koha in a vm since backups and stuff are a lot easier
06:36 eythian lastnode: vms are fine, just be ensure that they have enough performance to run mysql and zebra
06:36 lastnode also, i think i aksed this yesterday, but what is the most non-technical howto doc koha has? ive been through thirdy party doc links etc. and sent the librarian a few
06:36 cait we do that too :)
06:36 lastnode but im looking for a general overview of koha froma non-tech librarian's POV
06:36 cait lastnode: for installing koha? or using it?
06:36 eythian here we tend to run koha and zebra in a vm, but with a dedicated database server.
06:36 lastnode using it cait
06:36 cait documentation?
06:36 wahanui i guess documentation is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/
06:36 cait there is the english user manual
06:36 lastnode yeah ive linked to the main categories from there
06:37 cait ah ok
06:37 lastnode and ive also linked to some of the video tutorials
06:37 cait there is also a guide from brooke that might be helpful
06:37 lastnode but one link is broken
06:37 cait beginners guide?
06:37 eythian wahanui: moth apples is <reply>Moth apples are smaller than crab apples, sweeter too. Don't be tempted to eat them, as they are highly explosive.
06:37 wahanui OK, eythian.
06:37 cait lastnode: oh, you should report that to liz or nengard
06:38 lastnode ok, how do i do that? http://opensource.califa.org/koha_training is broken
06:38 cait wahanui: newbie guide is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Newbie_guide
06:38 wahanui OK, cait.
06:38 lastnode and i was told http://www.pakban.net/koha/tut/newbie.html is out of date
06:38 lastnode oh
06:38 lastnode that one
06:38 * lastnode looks
06:39 eythian lastnode: it seems out of date, but it's hard to say as it has no version numbers referenced.
06:39 eythian but it might be OK as a starter.
06:39 cait Brooke updated the wiki page for 3.2 I think so it should still be quite ok
06:39 cait the pakban link might be the older version
06:39 lastnode mediawiki looks broken to me in FF5
06:39 lastnode but the guide looks good
06:39 lastnode ill check it out, thanks guys
06:40 cait ah yes, ourmediawiki does that
06:40 cait when a page has no category, so I was told
06:40 cait but don't ask me how to add one...
06:40 lastnode my biggest concern is that koha might be overkill for what we wanna do. it's a small school, with 3k books atm
06:40 lastnode but it will grow, so i think koha is the way to go, due to it being FOSS and havign a strng userbase/community
06:41 eythian well, you don't have to use all the bits :)
06:41 lastnode that's true
06:41 cait it has a lot of features, but we think it's quite intuitive to use
06:41 lastnode it's just that even with fast add the adding record page
06:41 lastnode can be quite intimidating
06:41 lastnode for a new user
06:41 cait I get not a lot of questions about how to use features
06:41 cait I am supporting smaller libraries mostly
06:42 lastnode im apprehensive of setting ti up
06:42 lastnode because of the data. IANA sysadmin
06:42 lastnode and i dont want to lose the data haha
06:42 lastnode so that's why im considering vms
06:42 lastnode so i can just do a daily clone of each vm
06:42 lastnode and rest easy
06:43 reiveune hello
06:43 lastnode in any case, i guess i should detail all that and send to the koha list
06:43 lastnode thanks again!
06:43 lastnode brb
06:44 cait ok, have to go to - brb :)
06:45 julian hello #koha
06:47 eythian lastnode: if you're using the packages, they'll soon do daily backups of the database.
06:47 eythian which you can then rsync off-site
07:09 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6129] ISSN url param for serialssolutions.com <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6129>
07:09 lastnode oh right, that's nic eythian
07:09 lastnode soon as in 3.5?
07:09 eythian 3.6 probably, it might go into 3.4
07:10 eythian @later tell chris_n any chance of slipping the patch on bug 6275 into 3.4?
07:10 huginn eythian: The operation succeeded.
07:12 lastnode oh right. thansk eythian
07:12 lastnode eythian: and replacing teh db is simply a matter of replacing the file, or willthere be sql involved
07:13 lastnode oh it will backup a sql dump?
07:13 eythian it backs up the config and the SQL. You can then run koha-restore with those files on a fresh install to put it back.
07:13 lastnode sweet!
07:13 magnuse packages++
07:13 lastnode koha++
07:13 magnuse ...and hi #koha
07:13 eythian hi magnuse
07:15 magnuse bonjour clrh et paul_p
07:15 paul_p hello magnuse & al
07:17 clrh bonjour magnuse
07:17 clrh hello all
07:24 kmkale Namaskar #koha
07:24 * kmkale waves at magnuse paul_p clrh :)
07:25 magnuse namaste kmkale
07:26 kf hi all :)
07:27 eythian bye all :)
07:27 magnuse guten morgen kf
07:27 kf bye eythian :)
07:27 magnuse see ya eythian
07:27 kf and hi magnuse :)
08:12 kf hm
08:23 kf as of today lib-web-cats says there are 1399 libraries using koha - one year ago it was 1030
08:23 kf so even if we doubt the accuracy... nice trend
08:23 kf :)
08:24 magnuse yay!
08:26 kf fredericd++
08:29 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6750] Guarantor search broken on translated templates <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6750>
08:29 kf does someone know how to create a link to a saved search in bugzilla?
08:30 kf I already shared it, but it won't work :(
08:54 glernil hello
08:54 wahanui bonjour, glernil
08:55 glernil I just want to ask something about the koha debian package
08:56 glernil i have 3.2.9 installed on my machine and i'm planning to upgrade to 3.4
08:57 magnuse i have not tried that, but it should be fine
08:58 magnuse there is a script you need to run, but the packages will remind you when you upgrade
08:58 glernil will the upgrade affect all the instances in my machine? by the way i used koha-common package and have two koha instances
08:58 magnuse yep, all the instances should be taken care of
08:58 magnuse but of course, make sure you do a backup of the database first!
08:59 glernil using the built in script in the package?
08:59 magnuse either that or just mysqldump
09:00 magnuse koha-dump should be a good choice
09:00 glernil actually i did an upgrade of a test installation in a virtual machine but an error occured
09:01 Oak hello #koha
09:01 magnuse glernil: hm, that sounds ominous...
09:01 magnuse Oak
09:01 Oak hello kf
09:01 Oak magnuse
09:01 Oak :)
09:01 glernil then i tried to use the script to upgrade to 3.4
09:01 kf hi Oak
09:01 Oak @later tell Brooke http://www.sebastianmarshall.com/the-million-dollar-question
09:01 huginn Oak: The operation succeeded.
09:01 magnuse glernil: so you know what the error was?
09:02 magnuse s/so/do/
09:02 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5524 : Cant delete list from the second page of lists <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e39de040206eae26e22d6375479b548017cb7217> / Bug 6528 : Cataloguing search not showing location for available items <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ff4b179e14ab15bf5d20852a37e2b0a2dca45800>
09:03 glernil nope. i just ignored it. then it went fine.
09:04 glernil but i'm not sure if it is working properly as it should be.
09:05 magnuse hm, i would make sure it does...
09:05 magnuse maybe do the test upgrade again and make a note of the error? or test the test you have done thoroughly?
09:06 glernil ok. got to try again.
09:07 glernil another thing.. is it possible to create separate crontab settings for koha-instance1 and koha-instance2?
09:08 magnuse glernil: i'm not sure about that, eythian would know...
09:12 Brooke 0/
09:12 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6704 : Escaping html in the merging records, so " don't break the merge <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=720e3012a87ca437c17e864f159138304ed0c006> / Bug 6656 : Fix for advanced search not respecting default sort order <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5a2fc683d842ca964b42c8ae68b15aba2526ef30> / Bug 6794 : Fixing a bug with member flags in IE <http://git.koha
09:12 Oak Heya Brooke :D
09:12 Brooke howdy
09:18 magnuse \o
09:18 Brooke wahanui magnuse?
09:18 wahanui magnuse is, like, afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza
09:18 Brooke tee hee
09:18 kf mmm pizza
09:18 Brooke hi cait :)
09:19 magnuse mmm pizza
09:20 magnuse tomorrow!
09:20 wahanui it has been said that tomorrow is pizza friday!
09:20 magnuse yay!
09:21 Brooke friday?
09:21 wahanui i guess friday is It's Friday, Friday Gotta get down on Friday
09:23 magnuse in 36 minutes, gbsd starts in Kiribati
09:24 kf :)
09:26 magnuse which should make this file magically appear: http://div.libriotech.no/kohamisc/hourlystatus-gbsd4.txt
09:27 Brooke winguardium leviosa!
09:27 magnuse and i will add the #kohails hashtag to the tweets from http://twitter.com/#!/KohaGBSD (until someone complains about the noise...)
09:28 Brooke pfft
09:28 Brooke 3 tweetsish a day
09:28 Brooke noise = bettah then dead in that case.
09:28 magnuse nope, it will be lots of tweets
09:29 * Brooke nods.
09:30 Brooke you should stick your chorewars avatar there instead of the newb egg
09:31 kf rights
09:31 magnuse yeah, there is that
09:31 Brooke rights schmights
09:31 Brooke asking is generally otay
09:34 * Brooke coughs.
09:34 Brooke Can I put my character's profile on a web page?
09:34 Brooke Sure. You can generate a Character Badge image which you can put on any other site you like, and it'll be updated to show your character's progression through adventures.
09:34 magnuse but it shouldn't be tied to me...
09:35 magnuse i found a CC-BY "squash bug" on flickr...
09:35 rangi !jenkins build koha_master now
09:35 jenkins_koha rangi: job koha_master build scheduled now
09:35 jenkins_koha Starting build 395 for job Koha_master (previous build: ABORTED -- last SUCCESS #385 13 j ago)
09:36 Brooke is there an image for the koha party?
09:36 Brooke I bet if you're clever, you can make a background mash for it >:)
09:36 magnuse don't think so...
09:36 Barrc Does anyone know if there is some dark art chant needed to add a new SystemPreference through the pref files!! :-)
09:37 Brooke real Koha is light work, not dark arts. ;)
09:37 * Brooke mumbles about muggles today...
09:37 magnuse Barrc: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/System_Preferences#Adding_a_new_system_preference
09:38 kf Brooke: a character badge shows the stats from chorewars - different use case
09:38 kf and it links back
09:39 kf Barrc: there is a document about new sys prefs on the wiki
09:39 kf system preferences?
09:40 Brooke anyone know if the new manual is going to add a search sometime soon? that page went up to 3.2
09:40 kf wahanui: system preferences is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/System_Preferences
09:40 wahanui OK, kf.
09:41 Brooke kf: I'm still betting that if you ask the creator, they'll be cool with it given other responses.
09:41 Barrc Thanks - I have been reading that, I thought that the new sys pref in, lets say, the admin.pref file would save it to the database, and it does. It just does't insert it correctly!
09:42 Barrc However, a SQL insert directly works fine
09:42 kf hm you should also add it to the sys pref sql file
09:42 kf for new installs and to updatedatabase
09:42 kf so people get informed about thenew option on update
09:42 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6822: fix RIS export from OPAC <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a2a9bc522035c17a24aa48badc5184b015197826> / Merge remote-tracking branch 'kc/new/bug_6351' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6be9d2b27dd47c859eb6ab0cfd873b2059206986> / Bug 6351: Cannot delete library-specific holds polices and checkout limits <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/
09:42 Barrc kf: yep, I will but before that shouldn't just adding it to the admin.pref file be enough? That is, for my own testing?
09:43 kf never tried it, sorry
09:49 * Brooke s cat is starting an early, relentless breakfast campaign.
10:00 magnuse GBSD#4 just started in Kiribati!
10:00 Brooke hooray :D
10:01 Brooke thanks for organising these, Magnus
10:01 magnuse np
10:06 * Oak waves
10:06 Brooke welcome back
10:08 Oak :) gracias
10:21 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #395: STILL UNSTABLE in 45 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/395/
10:21 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 4330 : Updating copyright statements
10:21 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 4330 : Updating copyright statements for about.pl
10:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4330 normal, P5, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , Copyright statements out of date
10:21 jenkins_koha * salvazm: Bug 6727 - Change on exporting and importing csv to deal with spurious CR/LF
10:21 jenkins_koha * frederick.capovilla: Bug 6690: If multiple issues are received in serials-edit.pl, changing the status of any issue changes the date of the first issue.
10:21 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Follow-up to Bug 4868, Improve controls for cloning and deleting subfields
10:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6727 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, salva, ASSIGNED , can't import frameworks
10:21 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6695 - Layout of patron category add/edit form slightly broken
10:21 jenkins_koha * nengard: bug 6538 update letter.pl help file
10:21 jenkins_koha * colin.campbell: Bug 6562: Silence runtime error in reserve/request.pl
10:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6690 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, fcapovilla, ASSIGNED , If multiple issues are received in serials-edit.pl, changing the status of any issue changes the date of the first issue.
10:21 jenkins_koha * srdjan: Bug 6721 - improve searching in the acquisitions system
10:21 jenkins_koha * wvanwanrooij: Bug 6723 : import-framework-crlf
10:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4868 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Improve controls for cloning and deleting MARC subfields
10:21 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: 150th developer!!!
10:21 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Fixing typo in history doc
10:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6695 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Layout of patron category add/edit form slightly broken
10:21 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Follow-up fix for Bug 6726 - When SMS is enabled the messaging table is misaligned
10:21 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 6748 - Add link to fast add framework while circulating, if a barcode is not found
10:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6538 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, ASSIGNED , help on letter.pl is incorrect
10:21 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Follow-up fix for Bug 6753, Markup corrections and improvements for label export window
10:21 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Fix for Bug 4893, Add an input field for Check In on main Staff Client page
10:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6562 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, RESOLVED FIXED, Reserve request generates unnecessary runtime errors
10:21 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 5866 : Updated patch to speed up holds awaiting pickup
10:21 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bumping database version
10:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6721 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, srdjan, ASSIGNED , Add Basket number and Invoice number search
10:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6723 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, wvanwanrooij, ASSIGNED , allow framework import with CRLF
10:21 jenkins_koha * m.de.rooy: 6747 Checks in opac-export
10:21 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 6662: Remove Dewey Specific References in Sort
10:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6726 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , When SMS is enabled the messaging table is misaligned
10:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6748 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, kyle.m.hall, RESOLVED FIXED, Add link to fast add framework while circulating, if a barcode is not found
10:21 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Fix for Bug 4419 - cannot change module for notice templates
10:21 jenkins_koha * ulrich.kleiber: Bug 6765: sip2 unicode checksum
10:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6753 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Markup corrections and improvements for label export window
10:21 jenkins_koha * colin.campbell: Bug 6733 - Change return page after printing routing slip
10:21 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6791 - editing list with apostrophe loses text
10:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4893 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Add an input field for Check In on main Staff Client page
10:21 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6652, Zip showing in funny place on libraries admin
10:21 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6696, New category button broken when no categories defined
10:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5866 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, NEW , At larger hold volume, waitingreserves.pl for all libraries times out, can cause generalized slowness
10:21 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6712 - Remove memberofinstitution markup from templates until it can be completed
10:21 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Updating about page and history
10:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6662 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, ASSIGNED , sort options in opac are dewey specific
10:21 jenkins_koha * preprod34: Bug 6715 - Fix xmlControlfield.js so the xml files are fetched in the correct language directory.
10:21 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 6528 : Cataloguing search not showing location for available items
10:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4419 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Cannot change module for notice templates
10:21 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 5524 : Cant delete list from the second page of lists
10:21 jenkins_koha * maxime.pelletier: Bug 6794 : Fixing a bug with member flags in IE
10:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6765 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, ulrich.kleiber, NEW , Enable correct checksums for UTF-8 encoded data
10:21 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 6656 : Fix for advanced search not respecting default sort order
10:21 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 6704 : Escaping html in the merging records, so " don't break the merge
10:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6733 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, ASSIGNED , printing routing list sends you to main serials page
10:21 jenkins_koha Starting build 396 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #385 14 j ago)
10:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6791 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , editing list with apostrophe loses text
10:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6652 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Zip showing in funny place on libraries admin
10:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6696 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , New category button broken when no categories defined
10:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6712 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Remove memberofinstitution markup from templates until it can be completed
10:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6715 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, fcapovilla, ASSIGNED , xmlControlField.js always fetches the value_builder xml files in the "en" directory.
10:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6528 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Cataloging search issues - Holdings not displayed in location column
10:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5524 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , Can't delete list from second page of results
10:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6794 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Broken toggle in member-flags in ie
10:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6656 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , Default sort preferences ignored on advanced search
10:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6704 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , merging records cuts off fields at quotation marks
10:32 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6278] Funny translation bug with XSLT subfieldSelect parameters <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6278>
10:56 Brooke 0/
11:05 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #396: STILL UNSTABLE in 44 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/396/
11:05 jenkins_koha * ian.walls: Bug 6351: Cannot delete library-specific holds polices and checkout limits
11:05 jenkins_koha * stevecallender: Bug 6822: fix RIS export from OPAC
11:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6351 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, ruth, ASSIGNED , Cannot delete library-specific circulation rules
11:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6822 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED , RIS export problem in opac-export.pl with parsing the MARC
11:11 rangi bug 6828 looks good
11:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6828 enhancement, P5, ---, barry, NEW , Add Admin Dashboard for staff users.
11:11 Brooke this is just furthering my thought that folks are stealing my presentation from out from under me. ;)
11:12 magnuse rangi: cool
11:12 Brooke but seriously, at least everyone's thoughts are converging
11:12 Brooke diverging is no fun
11:13 rangi be better to present on it already being done :)
11:13 Brooke indeed
11:14 Brooke that looks like a logical list of the guild dropdowns as they would be if one applied them to LIS
11:14 magnuse "i had this idea and before i knew it someone else had implemented it" is quite a good story too, i think ;-)
11:14 * magnuse wanders off in search of lunch
11:14 Brooke which I tell all the time
11:14 Brooke cause this one time
11:14 Brooke in Koha
11:15 Brooke I was all like "We should be able to export MARC records."
11:15 Brooke and by the end of lunch, we could.
11:16 Brooke I LIKE SPACE!
11:17 kf sounds like a rangi storty
11:17 kf story
11:19 rangi you cant blame marc stuff on me
11:19 kf not trying to
11:19 slef pondering KohaCon12 in June: opinions? It would be easier to find venue and accommodation in Edinburgh because the big festivals won't be on.
11:19 kf trying to blame you for a new awesome feature
11:20 kf slef: no objections from me
11:20 kf but june 2012 or 13?
11:20 slef 2012
11:20 kf ok
11:20 kf no objections then, the sooner I get to see you all again the better :)
11:20 jcamins_away slef: makes sense to me.
11:21 kf and edinburgh is cool - I have been there once when visiting friends in scotland :)
11:21 slef June would also be more daylight and better weather if there's a daytrip... or if you just want to walk up the volcano
11:21 rangi june is good
11:22 * jcamins_away has never been to Edinburgh in the autumn, but there's certainly a lot more sunlight in June than in, for example, March.
11:22 slef rangi escapes the winter
11:22 Brooke if you are fine cutting the prep time you've got back that far, should be fine
11:22 rangi yup
11:22 kf :)
11:22 slef jcamins_away: Sep is probably similar daylight to March.
11:22 Brooke mathematically, that'd bear out
11:22 jcamins_away slef: yeah, that's what I figured.
11:23 slef Brooke: bizarrely, it might actually move us the right side of a booking horizon and lengthen the prep time.
11:23 Brooke cross quarters should all have roughly the same daylight
11:24 slef (as in: might be able to reserve June now, but not Sep until next May... that sort of thing)
11:24 * Brooke nods.
11:24 rangi yep, thats often how it works
11:24 rangi getting a venue is 80% of the organising, the rest it just details :)
11:25 slef ok, I've updated the proposals table. I'll dump this back on mle now :)
11:25 Brooke I don't think any good would come out of bullying you to have it at a time that's inconvenient to you
11:25 Brooke it'd be like me saying I'm coming over tomorrow and I don't care if you're ready to house me
11:25 kf june... that's near and still too far away
11:25 slef I like Sep. Less frying my skin than summer :)
11:25 slef But it's not slefcon.
11:25 * Brooke thinks of fried salmon skin...
11:26 rangi least you have ozone :)
11:26 Brooke I have enough hot air to fix that rangi ;)
11:26 rangi hot air is the problem :)
11:27 jcamins_away Looks like Edinburgh's going to be hosting KohaCon12- no other proposals from Europe!
11:27 rangi barring a ton of votes for reno, looks that way
11:27 Brooke nope, but Reno's on the board. I'm supporting Edinburgh though
11:28 kf oh
11:28 kf today is deadline
11:28 kf hope europe gets a ton of votes
11:28 Brooke phone yer friends :P
11:29 kf nah, cheating would not be nice
11:29 Brooke voting isn't cheating. If they show up, it counts :D
11:29 slef hrm, what does the deadline mean? Should I have not updated the date?
11:29 Brooke now if you pay them to vote for you, and they've no intent to go, that'd be cheating.
11:29 Oak :)
11:30 slef my mistake... I thought the meeting was the deadline and didn't look.
11:30 Brooke that deadline to me is put in a bid or you don't get to be on the ballot
11:30 Brooke so you're making your own hard mode
11:30 druthb o/
11:30 Brooke 0/
11:30 druthb :)
11:30 Oak o/
11:30 kf hi druthb
11:30 slef v_o_v
11:30 Brooke 0/ <--- tall poppy
11:31 * druthb chuckles.
11:31 slef v_o_v <-- nasty, British and short
11:31 druthb cool, pretty misty-foggy morning here in south dakota today. :)
11:32 slef oh yeah... I know what may confuse you if you come to Edinburgh... my Scottish-sounding colleague is not the one based there :)
11:34 Brooke http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCrT96QJBfQ
11:34 Brooke hadddd dtoooooo
11:38 slef http://youtube.com/watch?v=Nrmcxa1yBec
12:47 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6829] Remove two warnings for opac-MARCdetail <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6829>
12:55 oleonard I think the answer to this question is "not since Koha 1.x," but here goes:
12:55 oleonard Is there a way to set up a branch so that it doesn't show up as an option in OPAC searches, login forms, etc?
12:55 oleonard I got a question about setting up a "Cataloging/In-processing" branch
12:57 kf I talked to sekjal about this
12:57 kf I don't think it's possible currently
12:58 kf using jquery you could kill it from some places I think.. and you could suppress the titles with opac suppression perhaps
12:58 kf hmm
13:00 kf another question: we see a problem with allowonshelfholds in 3.4.4 - one book checked out, one book on shelf, no on self holds allowed, but still you can place a hold in opac
13:00 kf I think this was different in other versions
13:07 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6829] Remove two warnings for opac-MARCdetail <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6829>
13:25 oleonard kf, I though I'd try to hit Bug 6458 again today. Is there anything you'd like to claim?
13:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6458 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, ASSIGNED , incorrect parsing result in translation processing
13:27 kf oleonard: no - you can pick whatever you want :)
13:27 kf I will try to work a bit on it this evening
13:27 * oleonard thinks he'll have a little time for it today
13:30 kf oleonard: I want to fix the suggestions patch
13:30 kf very unhappy I missed the scoping thing
13:30 kf but if you want to fix it too - I will sign-off
13:32 oleonard I don't know what you're talking about
13:35 oleonard Hi LBA
13:36 * magnuse thinks kf was thinking about comment #60: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6458#c60
13:36 huginn 04Bug 6458: normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, ASSIGNED , incorrect parsing result in translation processing
13:39 kmkale Namaskar #koha
13:39 oleonard Thanks magnuse, I hadn't seen that
13:39 kf yep, sorry
13:39 kf was checking something with a coworker
13:58 wizzyrea mornin
13:59 kf morning wizzy
14:02 oleonard Hi sekjal & wizzyrea
14:02 sekjal hi, oleonard
14:02 wizzyrea hiya oleonard
14:03 sekjal sorry, gtg, car is ready to pick up.
14:03 wizzyrea gl... lordie he's fast.
14:35 trea The overdue/fine/hold ready notices that koha sends - there is not a method currently to specify a custom "Reply-To" email in the notices module, correct?
14:36 trea aside from setting one in the body of the message itself.
14:37 wizzyrea Well, it's not in the notices module, but you can set a custom library email address in the library definition
14:37 kf hm
14:37 kf shouldn't it use the mail it was send from?
14:37 wizzyrea and i believe that's the reply to for all notices
14:39 wizzyrea that's in more -> administration -> libraries, branches and groups
14:39 hdl trea: you could also add some automatic cc
14:39 hdl with Mail::Sendmail
14:40 hdl But this is not what I would recommend.
14:40 jcamins_away How do you add a T::T variable?
14:40 jcamins_away s/variable/parameter/
14:42 jcamins_away $template->param?
14:42 wahanui $template->param is a h::t::p things
14:42 wizzyrea no, it's got a different construction
14:42 wizzyrea sec
14:43 jcamins_away I had a feeling.
14:43 wizzyrea rangi's said it a zillion times in channel
14:43 jcamins_away I know.
14:43 jcamins_away Unfortunately, I can't come up with how to find the answer.
14:44 wizzyrea $template->{VARS}->{'name'}=$var;
14:44 wizzyrea i had to look it up in the logs lol
14:44 jcamins_away Thanks.
14:44 wizzyrea yw :)
14:44 kf template var is $template->{VARS}->{'name'}=$var;
14:44 kf template var
14:44 wahanui template var is $template->{VARS}->{'name'}=$var;
14:44 wizzyrea kf++
14:44 wizzyrea teaching_the_bot_useful_things++
14:45 hdl see in C4::Templates
14:45 kf bye all
14:45 wizzyrea later kf
14:48 hdl bye
14:48 wizzyrea later hdl
15:04 reiveune bye
15:09 libsysguy morning #Koha
15:09 trea o/
15:14 alex_a bye
15:18 rhcl Hi libsysguy
15:19 libsysguy hi rhcl
15:25 libsysguy so can anybody comment on Koha and Solr? I'm really interested in trying it out.
15:25 wizzyrea would anyone object if I changed the default sorting on the saved reports page from numeric by author to numeric by id?
15:25 wizzyrea you just missed hdl
15:25 libsysguy dang it
15:25 wizzyrea it's driving me NUTS
15:25 libsysguy the sorting?
15:25 wizzyrea yes
15:25 libsysguy i have no objections
15:25 libsysguy but I don't really use reports all that much
15:26 libsysguy would it be possible to variable-ize it in a drop down
15:26 wizzyrea all columns are sortable
15:26 wizzyrea it just makes me crazy to have to click on ID every time
15:26 libsysguy gotcha...so just changing the default
15:26 wizzyrea right
15:27 libsysguy wouldn't hurt my feelings so much...but like i said...im not a power user there
15:27 * wizzyrea will think about it
15:27 wizzyrea (someone probably explicitly chose the numeric by author explicitly)
15:28 wizzyrea do you think I could use the word explicitly any more?
15:28 * wizzyrea sighs
15:28 wizzyrea I blame the snot.
15:28 libsysguy eww snot?
15:28 libsysguy gross wizzyrea
15:28 oleonard Let it never be said that wizzyrea is not explicit.
15:28 wizzyrea summer cold. :(
15:28 * wizzyrea giggles
15:28 oleonard wizzyrea: That's a back-to-school cold.
15:29 wizzyrea oleonard: ah, is that what that is?
15:29 wizzyrea I take it you have experience
15:29 oleonard Back to school is one big germ orgy. It's horrible to behold.
15:29 wizzyrea "germ orgy"
15:29 libsysguy yeah I will contest to that
15:30 wizzyrea that's a fabulous mental image.
15:30 libsysguy i guess that is slightly different when you get to college
15:30 * libsysguy shall not say any more about that
15:30 wizzyrea O.o
15:30 libsysguy hehe
15:30 wizzyrea I won't even ask what kind of germs you are passing around.
15:31 libsysguy not me...what do you think i go to texas tech or something
15:31 wizzyrea OHSNAP
15:31 libsysguy BURN
15:31 wizzyrea won't offend me, I didn't go to Texas Tech.
15:31 wizzyrea >.>
15:32 libsysguy <.<
15:47 libsysguy can somebody verify if the shipment date field is broken in acqui/parcels.pl
15:47 wizzyrea broken how?
15:47 libsysguy like it always sets to today
15:48 libsysguy even if you select something else
15:48 libsysguy im wondering if it is hourly that is breaking it since im still on that branch or if its actually broken
16:05 sekjal anyone here have an opinion on the value of Rebarcoding Tool for Koha?
16:05 wizzyrea explain
16:05 wizzyrea what does it do exactly
16:05 sekjal a tool for making the rebarcoding of items as easy as possible
16:06 wizzyrea so say, scan a barcode, scan the new barcode, done
16:06 wizzyrea sort of thing
16:06 sekjal imagine a collection of 20,000 items, needing to go from 6-digit barcodes to 14-digit (so they could join the state system, say)
16:06 sekjal wizzyrea: exactly that workflow, yes
16:06 wizzyrea I love it.
16:07 wizzyrea it has relatively limited usefulness for day to day
16:07 wizzyrea but when you need it
16:07 wizzyrea boy
16:07 wizzyrea it'd be handy
16:07 sekjal and ideally it would be something that could eventually be made mobile and linked to a smartphone's barcode scanner app
16:08 wizzyrea or at least the page it's on would be extremely mobile friendly
16:09 sekjal it doesn't strike me as a terribly hard thing to write
16:10 sekjal permissions control and security would be the trickiest part, I reckon
16:10 wizzyrea well no
16:34 rhcl back to school?
16:34 wahanui i heard back to school was one big germ orgy. It's horrible to behold.
16:36 rhcl did I go to texas tech? sounds familiar. No, think it was Tx State Tech College(?). I've attended lots of places.
16:44 libsysguy_afk you went to texas state rhcl?
16:46 libsysguy wizzyrea: i went and talked to our acquisitions librarian and she said it wasn't broken just not doing what she wanted...thats what I get for trusting second hand information
16:47 rhcl I went to Angelo State University for a while, and somewhere else--TSTI sounds familiar. Texas State Tech Institute maybe? Is that a college w/ a branch in San Angelo?
16:48 libsysguy maybe...i just have some friends that go to texas state
16:51 wizzyrea I seriously want to know what my coworkers do to rechargeable batteries.
17:46 * cait waves
17:46 wizzyrea hi cait :D
17:46 cait hi liz :)
17:54 trea hi cait
17:56 cait hi trea
18:05 rangi who wants to do me a flavour?
18:05 wizzyrea what's the flavour?
18:05 rangi bug 6292
18:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6292 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , Overdue notices have a bug when multiple overdues exist
18:05 cait vanilla?
18:06 rangi theres one followup patch on that, awaiting sign off still
18:06 cait I can do it
18:06 cait i signed offon the first
18:06 rangi yay
18:06 wizzyrea cait++
18:07 wizzyrea plus, you have a plan, so that helps :)
18:07 cait karma after the job is done liz:)
18:07 wahanui after the job is done liz:) has neutral karma
18:07 cait lol
18:07 rangi cos i just replied to someones email and said today is gbsd
18:07 wizzyrea ! no wai
18:07 cait yes itis
18:07 cait today
18:07 rangi so it will look cool if we can then go look its squashed
18:07 cait in kiribati and nz
18:07 wizzyrea o right lol
18:08 wizzyrea well I meant "no way you get karma for volunteering, and because you already have a plan in place to test it"
18:08 wizzyrea :P
18:08 wizzyrea you can have MORE karma when the job is done
18:08 wizzyrea mooooaarrrr
18:08 rangi fredericd: you around?
18:08 wizzyrea <.< I might be feeling silly >.>
18:09 cait rangi: but I think the mail thing should be a different bug perhaps
18:09 cait not easy to tell, notenough information
18:09 rangi the follow up one?
18:10 cait both have not been pushed yet
18:10 cait ah
18:10 rangi @later tell fredericd you should set innodb_file_per_table in you my.cnf, then you can reclaim space
18:10 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded.
18:10 rangi theres 3 :)
18:10 cait the mail you replied to - hard to tell from the description ther eif that's really the problem with it
18:10 cait could also be it's assigned to a patron category that has no overudes activated
18:11 rangi none have been pushed becase the third patch hasnt been signed off
18:11 rangi yup, you could reply and say that too
18:11 cait sorry for being misunderstandable :)
18:11 rangi im just using it as an advertisement for gbsd
18:13 cait and making me do the hard part :P
18:13 * cait starts the bug sqashing play list
18:14 wizzyrea hehe
18:17 rangi :)
18:17 rangi ill make a new one when i get into work in a couple of hours
18:17 rangi to make up for it
18:18 rangi oh and congrats trea :)
18:19 trea thanks rangi - good to see you again
18:19 rangi im still winning! http://div.libriotech.no/kohamisc/hourlystatus-gbsd4.txt
18:19 rangi hehe
18:20 wizzyrea lol you're in the future!
18:20 wizzyrea I guess that means it's over for you first too though ;)
18:20 rangi yup
18:20 rangi i cheated, and started on kiribati time
18:21 rangi not sure ill get to do too much at work
18:21 rangi since i have 3 days of work piled up
18:21 wizzyrea vacation?
18:21 rangi nope, been sick
18:21 wizzyrea :( that sucks
18:21 cait and I hope you don't plan to do all that work today!
18:21 wizzyrea ^^
18:21 rangi im planning to send it all to you actually cait
18:22 rangi :)
18:22 cait hmpf?!
18:22 rangi want a job?
18:22 rangi project manager?
18:22 rangi :)
18:22 cait um
18:22 wizzyrea of course she does!
18:22 wizzyrea ^.^
18:23 rangi actually i have a few people to chase up about that today
18:23 rangi one of my tasks
18:23 * cait is confused
18:25 rangi completely offtopic
18:25 rangi but cool
18:25 rangi http://www.fsf.org/patrons
18:25 wizzyrea i saw that, awesome
18:27 rangi https://my.fsf.org/associate/support_freedom?referrer=9619
18:27 rangi if you join from there, thats my referral number :)
18:27 rangi hint hint
18:27 rangi hehe
18:28 wizzyrea lol
18:44 rangi ohh new channel peak
18:44 rangi Peak for #koha 61 (Fri Sep 2 02:00:33 2011)
18:44 rangi (nz time)
18:44 cait hehe you love stats
18:44 rangi i do
18:54 indradg hi rangi cait wizzyrea :)
18:54 rangi hi indradg
18:54 cait hi indradg
18:55 wizzyrea indradg: hi there :)
18:55 indradg so you people have tickets in place to visit india?
18:56 rangi i have 2 other conferences on at the same time
18:56 indradg rangi, i remember you telling me that
18:56 rangi one in canada, then the big nz library conference in wellington
18:56 rangi but ill be phoning in a presentation
18:56 cait I am not going this year, but hopefully next year
18:56 indradg \m/
19:11 rangi indradg: hows west bengal going?
19:14 talljoy when running the bukmarcimport for authority records, what is best field to use for matching authority records? 010 (library of congress control number)
19:14 aarkerio hi! somebody knows if Koha support National Library of Medicine (NLM) Classification Scheme ?
19:15 indradg rangi, the systems have been deployed at 170 town libs... we are in the middle of an OS refresh, and I'm trying to convince an upgrade to 3.4 from 3.2.6
19:17 indradg rangi, i didn't submit any "paper" for the KohaCon CfP, will be sharing the inputs during BoFs I'm sure.
19:18 cait aarkerio: you can catalog the field in marc21 - but I am not sure if it shows up in detail screens. It shows in isbd afaik
19:18 cait aarkerio: having authorities for it should be possible by creating a new framework and linking it to the field
19:18 indradg this project has taught us a lot... the real stumbling blocks in a 100% FS deployment
19:19 rangi *nod*
19:19 rangi 170 is no small number
19:22 rangi indradg: we got told that 'deploying koha to 25 libraries in nz would be too big for koha'
19:22 rangi so id love to point them at something saying look, heres 170
19:22 rangi stop talking rubbish :)
19:23 * rangi goes to catch his bus
19:26 trea are koha usernames (web interface) case sensitive?
19:26 indradg trea yes
19:26 trea ty
19:26 indradg :)
19:28 aarkerio this is still a validate page?
19:28 aarkerio http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd060.html
19:35 talljoy aarkerio: It is still valid if the LOC has it in the files. I have not seen it in use in the libraries I
19:35 talljoy I've seen. You may try email the list to see if anyone else is using it.
19:36 talljoy http://www.oclc.org/bibformats/en/0xx/ OCLC also show that as a field in the marc record.
19:38 Brooke kia ora
19:38 wizzyrea whaddup brooke
19:38 Brooke yo yo yo NEKLS in the hizzouse!
19:40 * Brooke definitely didn't watch Margaret Cho instead of working on her preso.
19:44 rangi Back
19:45 cait :)
19:45 talljoy :)
19:45 talljoy has anyone used bulkmarcimport with matching? is this asking for a specific match point? incoming record matched to a specific existing record?
19:46 rangi from the commandline?
19:46 rangi not me
19:46 talljoy perl ~/kohaclone/misc/migration_tools/bulkmarcimport.pl -a -file GODDALL.279 -match='010,a' -v results in:
19:46 cait I think we use the other scripts, for staged marc import
19:46 cait so no
19:47 rangi I do that from the stage marc records
19:47 talljoy unable to search the database for duplicates : No query entered at /home/load07/kohaclone/misc/migration_tools/bulkmarcimport.pl line 217, <GEN15> line 1.
19:47 rangi gimme 40mins
19:47 rangi and ill be at my computer
19:47 rangi and ill look at the code
19:47 talljoy thanks. will table this issue and work on another.
19:47 talljoy rangi++
19:48 aarkerio talljoy, thx!
19:53 rangi @wunder wellington nz
19:53 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 7.0�C (7:00 AM NZST on September 02, 2011). Conditions: Rain Showers. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 4.0�C. Windchill: 3.0�C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Rising).
19:53 Brooke I would claim taunting, but that's some crap weather ye're havin
19:53 rangi southerly
19:56 wizzyrea brr
19:56 aarkerio I ,ma new in Koha, I see "Availability: No items available" in all search results books
19:57 rangi what version?
19:57 rangi and you definitely have items?
19:58 aarkerio http://decodic.incan.edu.mx/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=cancer
19:58 rangi what version of koha?
19:59 cait @wunder konstanz
19:59 wizzyrea searching faq?
19:59 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 17.1�C (9:58 PM CEST on September 01, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 29.93 in 1013.4 hPa (Steady).
19:59 wahanui rumour has it searching faq is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/searching/
19:59 Brooke oh that's interesting. They are available from the details screen...
19:59 wizzyrea *nod* I was noting that
19:59 rangi yep
20:00 aarkerio this is the item: http://mononeurona.org/img/imgusers/aarkerio_2271.png
20:00 rangi which means its most like an indexing thing
20:00 rangi make sure you are running zebra
20:00 aarkerio Koha version: 3.04.02.000
20:00 wizzyrea well it brought back results
20:00 rangi yes
20:00 rangi so does nozebra
20:00 rangi but not items
20:01 wizzyrea but right, if zebra isn't running it wouldn't catch it if he added items after the initial index
20:01 rangi or if using nozebra then it never will
20:01 wizzyrea aarkerio: are you running in nozebra?
20:01 wizzyrea aside, I thought we took away that option
20:02 wizzyrea for new installs.
20:02 Brooke (It's nearly dead.)
20:02 rangi we did, but if u upgraded
20:02 rangi or went in sysprefs
20:03 rangi but my guess is either the cronjob isn't running or nozebra mode
20:03 aarkerio No I running Zebra, I have one item and is listed in search
20:03 rangi oh oh
20:03 rangi so items are showing then?
20:04 hguewmLibrarian Good Day
20:04 wizzyrea hi :)
20:04 aarkerio yes, you can see items in OPAC but also "Availability: No items available"
20:04 aarkerio hola!
20:04 cait hi hguewmLibrarian
20:05 hguewmLibrarian So i'm trying to hunt down records that have NULL for item type; because they're avoiding the overdue trigger. Is there an easy way to do this?
20:05 hguewmLibrarian hey cait!
20:05 cait :)
20:05 cait I would try a custom report
20:05 rangi aarkerio: do you have xslt switched on?
20:06 wizzyrea http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/SQL_Reports_Library#Null_Item_Type
20:06 wizzyrea try that report hguewmLibrarian
20:06 cait :)
20:06 hguewmLibrarian okie dokie!
20:06 wizzyrea you know how to add a report from sql right?
20:07 aarkerio rangi, thanks for your help, wher can I if check XSLT is off?
20:07 rangi in systempreferences in opac tab
20:07 hguewmLibrarian yup, most definitely Wizzy
20:07 wizzyrea awesomesauce
20:07 rangi if changing that fixes it, I think its a index problem
20:08 rangi so try a full reindex
20:08 aarkerio DisplayOPACiconsXSLT = Show
20:10 rangi ok my stop
20:10 rangi bbiab
20:10 hguewmLibrarian so.. I add it, run it and get blank table. I'm betting it's whitespace error....
20:11 wizzyrea XSLTResultsDisplay is what you're looking for aarkerio
20:11 cait have yo changed the items.homebranch bit?
20:11 wizzyrea if it's on "using XSLT stylesheets" change it to "normal"
20:11 cait hguewmLibrarian: AND items.homebranch='LIBRARY'?
20:12 hguewmLibrarian ? nope... can it be ANY?
20:12 wizzyrea OPACXSLT i mean
20:12 aarkerio Works!! this thing is great!
20:12 wizzyrea no, just get rid of that bit
20:12 aarkerio thanks guys!
20:12 wizzyrea yw aarkerio
20:12 wizzyrea but seriously, reindex :P
20:12 cait hguewmLibrarian: what wizzyrea said - delete it if you don't want to run it for a specific library
20:13 hguewmLibrarian yup yup! geniuses!
20:13 hguewmLibrarian it works now
20:13 cait :)
20:13 hguewmLibrarian muchas gracias
20:13 wizzyrea yw
20:13 hguewmLibrarian this is definitely the place where the koha ninja guru live
20:13 wizzyrea tee hee
20:13 Brooke don't tell anyone
20:14 wizzyrea ^^
20:14 cait and soon you will be a koha ninja guru too :)
20:14 Brooke liz likes her foggy mountain retreat.
20:14 wizzyrea ... but I live in kansas?
20:14 wizzyrea no foggy mountains in kansas, silly.
20:14 hguewmLibrarian no... this grasshopper has many many more lessons before guru status
20:14 cait retreat in a field of sunflowers?
20:14 wizzyrea see, cait knows. :)
20:14 cait :)
20:15 hguewmLibrarian ah... true kansas ninja can run/hide in cornfield w/o getting a scratch!
20:15 cait and without sneezing from hay fever
20:15 hguewmLibrarian how about.. without detection!
20:15 pelletiermaxime Has someone ever changed the value of an existing branches.branchcode ? Trying to look at what it would break
20:15 cait I have.. but it's not nice
20:16 cait you might be better off creating a new branch and changing the items to use that, but means creating new rules and everything too
20:16 wizzyrea this is as close to foggy mountains as you'll get in kansas: http://www.prairiepathways.com/PrairieDust/images/20080405182935_dawn_road_and_fence_bw.jpg
20:17 cait nice pic!
20:17 hguewmLibrarian eh, come to Fresno, CA.. we'll hide you in the fog banks
20:17 pelletiermaxime sure wish there was a simple int pk in that table :/
20:17 hguewmLibrarian OK followup Question: Is there a simple way change the item types of these records to BK (Book)?
20:18 wizzyrea yep
20:18 wizzyrea you can use the batch edit
20:18 hguewmLibrarian enlighten me oh wise one
20:18 hguewmLibrarian what is this batch edit thou dost speak
20:18 cait pelletiermaxime: why do you need to change it?
20:18 wizzyrea more -> tools -> batch idem modification
20:18 cait pelletiermaxime: an int pk would make sql queries harder
20:18 wizzyrea idem? sheesh
20:19 wizzyrea item*
20:19 pelletiermaxime cait: because the client is asking to change it :/
20:19 cait that's why we don't let our customers select their branchcodes
20:19 cait we use their ISIL
20:19 hguewmLibrarian okie -> what now?
20:20 wizzyrea so now
20:20 wizzyrea you can modify your report to pull only barcodes
20:20 cait hguewmLibrarian: I think you might want to get a barcode list with the report first
20:20 wizzyrea and save them to a file, one on each line
20:20 wizzyrea or paste them into the box, one on each line
20:20 wizzyrea then click continue
20:20 cait pelletiermaxime: is the library already in production?
20:20 hguewmLibrarian *sifting*
20:20 pelletiermaxime cait: yes
20:21 slef yo pelletiermaxime catch you later :)
20:21 * slef goes to dinner
20:21 cait in theory, you need to change at least: branches, items, issuingrules, perhaps issues/reserves, ...
20:21 slef slef?
20:21 wahanui you are a proponent of all things cooperative
20:21 slef heh
20:21 cait the only time I did it was for a library not having checked out anything yet
20:22 cait we got a space before the branchcode accidently, which caused lots of problems
20:22 wizzyrea report like this hguewmLibrarian: SELECT items.barcode
20:22 wizzyrea FROM items
20:22 wizzyrea WHERE items.itype IS NULL
20:22 pelletiermaxime cait: ok, thanks for the help. I'm going to try as hard as I can to tell them it's not a good idea :P
20:22 wizzyrea oops, sorry
20:22 cait pelletiermaxime: possible is everything, but I think it's probably easy to miss something here
20:22 wizzyrea make that SELECT items.barcode FROM items WHERE items.itype IS NULL
20:22 wizzyrea should spit them all out for you
20:23 rangi pelletiermaxime: the places likely to be missed, that arent foreign keyed would be accountlines and statistics
20:23 rangi its doable, but like people have said, could be messy
20:23 * hguewmLibrarian modified the first one to show the barcodes... but yeah gonna use the second solution
20:24 wizzyrea I think if you save the output of the report as tab, you can use that as your barcode file
20:24 wizzyrea (but I've never tried it)
20:24 rangi so aarkerio is from mexico, where is mr brunk from i wonder?
20:25 cait or download open in excel and copy/paste
20:25 wizzyrea ^^
20:25 hguewmLibrarian senor brunk aprendi espanol en las calles de un pequeno ciudad nombrado chicago
20:25 rangi s/excel/[libreoffice|gnumeric]/
20:25 cait ah sorry
20:25 rangi :)
20:26 hguewmLibrarian does that help rangi?
20:27 * wizzyrea thinks of excel like fridge - the originally corporate name for the now generic construct of "spreadsheet program"
20:27 hguewmLibrarian mi ortografia y gramatica, pues no merece buenas marcas
20:27 rangi hguewmLibrarian: nope, cos im from nz and speak maori and english, no espanol :)
20:27 Brooke He's from Chitown
20:27 rangi but i got the chicago bit
20:28 Brooke get us da sausage!
20:28 wizzyrea and the pizza.
20:28 hguewmLibrarian i learned spanish on the streets
20:28 * wizzyrea demands pizza.
20:28 Brooke dude
20:28 wizzyrea i tease.
20:28 Brooke you go to Champaign for Pizza.
20:28 hguewmLibrarian even after a bachelors in spanish, they couldn't fix my grammar
20:28 wizzyrea whatevs.
20:28 Brooke I will learn you pizza!
20:29 wizzyrea i'm not uh, perhaps as much of a pizza connisseur as you.
20:29 hguewmLibrarian pizza the hutt!
20:29 hguewmLibrarian maybe a cat named pizza
20:29 wizzyrea i like cheese, does that count?
20:29 wizzyrea ^.^
20:29 cait hm
20:29 aarkerio when I am capturing ISBN is better 84-7903-706-7 or 8479037067 ?
20:29 cait need some help: Several letters where generated if a borrower had overdues with different due_date triggering the same level
20:29 wizzyrea no dashes is better
20:29 rangi the later
20:29 wahanui hmmm... the later is better
20:29 rangi latter even
20:30 aarkerio cool!
20:30 cait how could 2 iems with different due dates trigger the same notice level?
20:30 wizzyrea different dates but in the same range?
20:30 * hguewmLibrarian bows to koha ninja gurus
20:30 cait oh
20:30 wizzyrea for notice?
20:30 hguewmLibrarian works like magic!
20:30 rangi cait: that was part of the bug
20:30 cait not using triggered perhaps?
20:31 wizzyrea what's the number again?
20:31 cait there is no range actually
20:31 rangi it used to just use the latest one
20:31 cait but 6292
20:31 cait which is wat is confusing me
20:31 cait rangi: I know - I complained about that often enough :)
20:31 Brooke bug 6292
20:31 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6292 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , Overdue notices have a bug when multiple overdues exist
20:31 rangi :)
20:31 rangi so much that i fixed it
20:31 cait I am trying to figure out how to test the lates fix from sophie
20:31 rangi the squeaky wheel and all that
20:32 cait you call a squeaky wheel?
20:32 cait and I thought one of your libraries complained about it too... :)
20:32 rangi its a saying
20:32 rangi 'a squeaky wheel gets the grease'
20:32 rangi yep plant and food complained
20:33 cait plant_and_food++
20:33 cait ok, back to my problem
20:33 cait I don't understand the case sophie is trying to fix
20:33 wizzyrea ok wait, is her latest patch saying that a member won't get 2 notices if they have 2 overdue items that are not on the same date? I thought that was desired behavior, one notice for each overdue item
20:33 cait because items with different due dates can't be in the same range
20:33 cait because we have a one day range with notice triggers
20:34 rangi yeah,
20:34 rangi im puzzled too
20:34 cait hehe
20:34 rangi sorry, i shoulda read it more
20:34 wizzyrea i'm so confused.
20:34 hguewmLibrarian sweet! i answered my own question!
20:34 hguewmLibrarian i forgot to account for a graceperiod
20:35 wizzyrea what's the rank below "ninja guru"
20:35 hguewmLibrarian much thanks again
20:35 hguewmLibrarian toadstool?
20:35 Brooke figgerinityerself++
20:35 wizzyrea uh
20:35 wizzyrea lol
20:35 talljoy i step out for a few minutes and koha goes to town. :)
20:35 Brooke shhhhh
20:35 wizzyrea the party always starts when rangi gets here
20:35 rangi oh thats right
20:35 Brooke u guise, she's back.
20:35 wizzyrea and brooke
20:35 rangi i was gonna look up somethign for talljoy
20:35 aarkerio BTW, why when I am capturing a title must end with "/"
20:35 talljoy yes, please.
20:36 wizzyrea that's ISBD punctuation
20:36 talljoy bulkmarcimport for authorities and matching!
20:36 rangi talljoy: master branch?
20:36 talljoy yes
20:36 talljoy always. ;-)
20:36 * hguewmLibrarian poofs
20:36 rangi looking now
20:37 cait aarkerio: there is not really a reasonable reason for it. it's in the standard...
20:37 sekjal that latest patch on 6292 looks wrong
20:37 Brooke the answer is always cataloguers were potty trained at gunpoint.
20:38 rangi thanks sekjal
20:38 aarkerio I see when I import from Lib Congress auotmatically set "/" after title in MARC
20:38 sekjal it's adding a new value in the select in one part, but then removing that value in the fetchrow
20:38 sekjal err, no
20:38 sekjal my bad
20:39 sekjal but I still don't understand what it's supposed to accomplish
20:39 cait rangi: left a commenton the bug
20:39 sekjal perhaps it only works without the -t flag?
20:39 rangi thanks people
20:40 cait sekjal: I think that might be it - but without -t - are there levels?
20:40 sekjal cait: not sure, we always run with -t
20:40 cait I thought you give it only a min max and it will output everything in there
20:41 cait yep, we do that too
20:42 rangi talljoy have you tried -match=010a
20:42 rangi without the '' or ,
20:42 talljoy yes
20:43 cait sekjal: I am really looking to see that fix go in, it's really hard to explain the current behaviour to the libraries
20:43 talljoy .Use of uninitialized value $recorddata in pattern match (m//) at /home/load07/kohaclone/misc/migration_tools/bulkmarcimport.pl line 392, <GEN15> line 1.
20:43 talljoy unable to search the database for duplicates : No query entered at /home/load07/kohaclone/misc/migration_tools/bulkmarcimport.pl line 217, <GEN15> line 1.
20:43 cait sekjal: and if someone could make the notice triggers follow the calendar.. it would be even better :)
20:44 sekjal cait: as libsysguy was saying on list, the whole system needs an overhaul
20:44 cait I agree
20:44 cait but overhauls take time
20:44 sekjal very true
20:44 rangi hmmm
20:45 sekjal it's one of the things I'd like to define Koha 4.0
20:45 cait uhoh rangi is hmming
20:45 cait new accounts will be a good first step
20:45 cait because fines are also involved in that
20:45 rangi i have to go read some perl doc
20:47 libsysguy oh hey my name came up
20:47 libsysguy yeah I started the wiki for that but it is in some desperate need of formatting
20:48 Brooke did someone say wiki jiggering?
20:48 wizzyrea uhoh rangi?
20:48 wahanui somebody said uhoh rangi was hmming
20:48 wizzyrea LOL
20:49 rangi right the pod is wrong
20:50 rangi you have to pass it an index
20:50 rangi matchindex,fieldtomatch
20:51 talljoy i couldn't figure out what it was asking me for there.
20:51 talljoy what is it considering a 'matchindex'?
20:51 rangi so whats the index on 010 i wonder
20:51 rangi lemme look
20:51 sekjal shouldn't bulkmarcimport just use matching rules?
20:51 rangi it should
20:51 sekjal that would be much more robust
20:51 rangi it doesnt
20:51 sekjal well..... it should!
20:51 rangi which is why i use stage marc import
20:51 * sekjal pouts
20:52 sekjal sorry, long day
20:52 cait talljoy: the name of the zebraindex
20:52 wizzyrea he's so cute when he does that.
20:52 cait hehe
20:52 cait never seen him oding it before, but yes
20:52 cait sekjal: I know how you feel
20:52 wizzyrea stick your lip out like that and a little birdie will come along and poo on it!
20:52 rangi LC-card-number
20:53 rangi looks like it
20:53 rangi try
20:53 wizzyrea did you laugh? tell me you laughed.
20:53 rangi LC-card-number,010
20:54 * sekjal is trying to do a serials migration when there is no reliable mapping from old biblio ID to new
20:54 sekjal laughter is a ways off
20:54 cait libsysguy: I am interested in talking about the notification rfc - I have lots of complaints about the way thinks are currently
20:54 wizzyrea :(
20:54 talljoy ok...let me fire that up.
20:55 talljoy rangi: it likes that much better. it is chugging along through the file now.
20:55 talljoy thanks!
20:56 sekjal okay, gtg. probably back later
20:56 hilongo Hello #koha :)
20:57 rangi hiya hilongo
20:58 hilongo how's the channel doing ;)
20:58 hilongo I have a small question ...
20:59 rangi larry didnt want to hear it
21:00 wizzyrea lulz
21:00 wizzyrea east coast quittin' time
21:00 hilongo Is there a way to autofill a MARC field upon saving the record? Explain: We would like to autogenerate the 001 field's value with the biblionumber
21:00 wizzyrea @quote get 123
21:00 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011)
21:00 * wizzyrea nods
21:01 rangi you could write a plugin, like we have for leader and 007 etc
21:02 hilongo yeah .. I thought that ... but when you create a biblio... there is no biblionumber to assign yet...
21:02 libsysguy cait we are too
21:02 rangi true good point
21:02 rangi youd have to hack at the save code then
21:02 libsysguy I just don't know how to meet about it...first timer on big project development
21:02 hilongo so it should be activated upon saving the record
21:02 libsysguy with a distributed group
21:03 rangi libsysguy: call a meeting time on the mailing list, say 2pm such and such on irc to talk about blah
21:03 cait we could have an irc meeting
21:03 cait but perhaps cleaning up the wiki page would be a good start too
21:03 cait going to take a look at it now
21:04 rangi hilongo: you'd need to do it with a systemprefernce, so you could upstream it, otherwise youd have to keep remaking the change
21:04 libsysguy eek cait don't make fun
21:04 cait libsysguy: do you see the way fines are calculated as part of the notification system?
21:04 libsysguy i see the fines script
21:04 cait make fun about ?
21:04 libsysguy the wiki rfc page
21:05 wizzyrea I think he's afraid that you'll make fun of him for some self-perceived weakness in his wiki skills
21:05 libsysguy ^^
21:05 * wizzyrea pats libsysguy
21:05 wizzyrea cait is gentle and sweet.
21:05 * libsysguy sobs quietly
21:05 cait oh
21:05 cait no never
21:05 cait not as long as we are using mediawiki
21:06 wizzyrea see :)
21:06 cait I will never get the syntax of that
21:06 cait have to look up everything
21:06 libsysguy haha
21:06 * cait sends libsysguy a cookie
21:06 wizzyrea she also has cookies.
21:07 * libsysguy loves cookies
21:07 cait virtual cookies, practically no calories ;)
21:08 Agent_Dani Mmm, cookies
21:08 libsysguy most excellent
21:08 * cait puts a bowl of cookies in the middle of #koha
21:08 * libsysguy is dating a Swede who makes him not eat sweets
21:08 libsysguy cait: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Notifications_RFC
21:08 cait oh
21:09 libsysguy got it formatted...kind of
21:09 cait libsysguy: I am in there already
21:09 cait had to look up how to do bullet lists...
21:09 cait again
21:09 libsysguy oh haha i already cleaned it up
21:09 cait oh
21:09 libsysguy or was that you
21:09 cait now you took my evening fun away
21:09 libsysguy aww im sorry
21:09 libsysguy fwiw i had to look it up too
21:09 libsysguy im just a pretty quick typist
21:09 cait I got distracted :)
21:09 wizzyrea * for unordered list
21:09 wizzyrea # for numbered
21:09 wizzyrea :P
21:10 libsysguy hehe
21:10 libsysguy ** for more indentions
21:10 cait yep, but it's space * in dokuwiki
21:10 wizzyrea ^^
21:10 cait or even space space
21:10 wizzyrea mhm
21:10 * Agent_Dani gives cait a shiny thing to distract.
21:10 wizzyrea i did a bit of wording cleanup on
21:10 wizzyrea version control using git?
21:10 wahanui well, version control using git is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git
21:10 libsysguy reminds me of that programming language you write in white space
21:10 cait oh shiny!
21:10 wizzyrea it's functionally the same
21:11 cait brainf**?
21:11 wizzyrea it was just bugging m
21:11 wizzyrea me
21:11 wizzyrea the headings made no sense
21:11 aarkerio hi! If I have a Bibtex file, How can I import it in Koha?
21:11 cait hm you can#t currently
21:11 cait you have to convert it to marc
21:12 aarkerio I have this book:
21:12 aarkerio http://books.google.com/books/about/Cirug%C3%ADa_del_tracto_gastrointestinal.html?id=uvvmAAAACAAJ
21:13 aarkerio and I see google gives the option to "Export Citation" in three formats: Bibtex, Endnote, and RefMaN
21:13 aarkerio what is the best option?
21:14 cait I think I would try getting it from a z39.50 server
21:14 cait searching by title or isbn
21:16 aarkerio no, is not in Congress Library
21:17 cait libsysguy: i added one point to your rfc
21:20 yhager I rebooted my machine and now zebrasrv is not running, and I forgot the command line. Can anyone point me to where to find it?
21:20 cait /etc/init.d/koha-zebra... something start
21:21 yhager cait: no such ini file here
21:21 cait hm
21:22 cait i think you have to put it there during installation
21:22 yhager cait: can you just tell me how to run it for now, I'll build the startup script later?
21:23 cait can someone else perhaps? not sure how to do it
21:23 cait getting late here - good night all :)
21:23 yhager cait: run: ps auwx|grep zebra
21:24 wizzyrea yhager it should be in the install.debian file
21:24 wizzyrea in your koha directory
21:24 wizzyrea how to do that
21:25 yhager wizzyrea: found it, thanks
21:25 wizzyrea yw :)
21:25 yhager I should really add a startup script though. (I am using the Archlinux package I built myself..)
21:25 bg NateC?
21:25 wahanui I LIKE SPACE!
21:27 wizzyrea rangi?
21:27 wahanui I LIKE ALMONDS! HAVE SOME NUTS!
21:28 wizzyrea bg?
21:28 wahanui I LIKE BREAKFAST BURRITOS AND I LOVE BASEBALL
21:28 * wizzyrea nods
21:28 cait wizzyrea?
21:28 cait !
21:28 talljoy cait?
21:28 wahanui cait is probably kf or a programmer or really sweet or a source of great chocolate or the purveyor of an infinite supply of virtual cookies or not sure we need the page(s)... but that might just be me
21:28 wizzyrea kf?
21:28 wahanui rumour has it kf is cait or really, really sweet. or <reply>she gives me memory loss
21:28 cait talljoy?
21:28 wahanui I CRUNCH DATA
21:28 libsysguy sorry cait i was afk...what does a point do?
21:28 talljoy LOL
21:29 wizzyrea lol
21:29 libsysguy ohh
21:29 libsysguy you mean a bullet point
21:29 libsysguy gotcha
21:29 cait :)
21:29 talljoy I eat me sum data for breakfast
21:29 talljoy crunchy good
21:29 cait can someone kick me? so hard to leave
21:29 wizzyrea nom nom nom
21:29 cait hehe
21:29 rangi oh so
21:29 rangi i missed, did that work talljoy ?
21:29 talljoy yes, it did import like a champ. what is the script that links authorities to bibs?
21:30 rangi oh that thing
21:30 talljoy that i hear works sometimes and sometimes not....
21:30 rangi i dont trust that thing
21:30 talljoy yeah.....
21:30 cait ok, that's a good moment to leave
21:30 talljoy lol
21:30 wizzyrea go cait go!
21:30 rangi yeah, i have about 70% success with it
21:30 talljoy i need to try it.
21:30 talljoy i have a comfy test environment to run it in.
21:30 wizzyrea "comfy"
21:30 talljoy i promise not to blow up client's production system with it.
21:30 talljoy comfy for data.
21:30 rangi misc/link_bibs_to_authorities.pl
21:31 talljoy do i need to worry about reindexing before running that?
21:31 rangi yes
21:31 talljoy best options for bibs? -a -r -x -v?
21:31 talljoy no x?
21:31 rangi no x for -a
21:31 libsysguy wizzyrea how do you do a "next time x comes on the irc send them this"
21:31 talljoy awesome. thx
21:31 rangi you have reindexed your biblios too eh?
21:32 talljoy i will
21:32 rangi you want both indexes up to date
21:32 wizzyrea @later tell whoever what you want to tell them
21:32 huginn wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.
21:32 talljoy that's the plan for tonight while dinner is cooking
21:32 rangi cool
21:32 wizzyrea you can also do it in a /msg to huginn
21:32 rangi make mine a double helping
21:32 wizzyrea yum dinner.
21:33 wizzyrea talljoy's cookin!
21:33 libsysguy @later sekjal will you look over http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Notifications_RFC and let me know when would be a good time to schedule an IRC meeting?
21:33 huginn libsysguy: I've exhausted my database of quotes
21:33 talljoy mmmmmmm.
21:33 wizzyrea @later tell
21:33 huginn wizzyrea: (later tell <nick> <text>) -- Tells <nick> <text> the next time <nick> is in seen. <nick> can contain wildcard characters, and the first matching nick will be given the note.
21:33 libsysguy oops
21:33 wizzyrea :)
21:33 wizzyrea @quote random
21:33 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #141: "library_systems_guy: w00t I'm officially part of something cool :)" (added by wizzyrea at 04:18 PM, June 03, 2011)
21:34 libsysguy @later tell sekjal will you look over http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Notifications_RFC and let me know when would be a good time to schedule an IRC meeting?
21:34 huginn libsysguy: The operation succeeded.
21:34 libsysguy phew
21:34 wizzyrea @quote random
21:34 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #62: "<fallor> is this a known thingy?" (added by gmcharlt at 01:18 PM, February 26, 2010)
21:34 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn.
21:34 libsysguy i was afraid id break huginn
21:34 wizzyrea his spirit will never be broken!
21:35 wizzyrea @quote random
21:35 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #151: "<seneca> you guys are my heroes" (added by wizzyrea at 07:41 PM, August 31, 2011)
21:35 libsysguy oh oh let me try
21:35 libsysguy @quote random
21:35 huginn libsysguy: Quote #142: "Pianohacker: hrm. What's the plural of ILS again? Rangi: ILSESESESESESES" (added by wizzyrea at 08:54 PM, June 08, 2011)
21:35 wizzyrea lol. that's a good one.
21:35 libsysguy that is a good one
21:36 libsysguy libsysguy?
21:36 wahanui well, libsysguy is Koha's hottest developer or partying with swedes on his deck
21:36 libsysguy hehe
21:36 wizzyrea it's 4:30 CDT, we start getting kooky.
21:36 wizzyrea @quote random
21:36 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #73: "<chris_n> owen: try /msg munin identify nick password" (added by owen at 12:38 PM, April 29, 2010)
21:36 wizzyrea interesting that it would fall on a 3
21:36 wizzyrea @quote get 23
21:36 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #23: "<gmcharlt> /msg munin register nick password" (added by wizzyrea_ at 04:25 PM, August 06, 2009)
21:37 wizzyrea oo, identify vs register.
21:37 bg ah it's only 2:30
21:37 wizzyrea for you, sucka
21:37 rangi 9.30am
21:37 libsysguy CDT ftw
21:37 rangi slackers
21:37 rangi get to work
21:37 libsysguy dang it rangi
21:37 wizzyrea hrmph.
21:37 libsysguy and its friday there too
21:37 libsysguy boo
21:37 * wizzyrea saves the knock knock jokes for tomorrow
21:40 talljoy it's almost happy hour here in Texas.
21:40 talljoy i'm feeling thirsty
21:42 rangi http://soundcloud.com/a-skillz/abc-a-skillz-remix <-- for you libsysguy
21:44 rhcl hot diggidy dog. I'm going to LITA, got my grant $$.
21:44 rangi sweet
21:45 libsysguy excellent
21:45 rhcl wish I had cohorts going w/ though. hint hint
21:45 rangi when/where is it?
21:46 rhcl St. Louis, Missouri Sept 30 - Oct 2
21:47 rhcl most grants are cost share, typically 75% - 25%, but this one was 100%
21:47 rangi ah not me then ;)
21:48 rhcl any particular propaganda/evangelism people want to spread besides the usual?
21:48 rhcl wish I had a classy polo style Koha shirt
21:48 bg everyone should switch to microsoft
21:48 bg HA
21:49 rangi mention libravatar
21:49 bg ok I'm back to my hole
21:49 rhcl can do. libravatar
21:49 rangi and freedombox
21:49 rhcl freedombox
21:49 bg surprised I didn't get booted for that one ;)
21:49 rangi https://www.libravatar.org/ and https://www.freedomboxfoundation.org/
21:50 rangi stuff to keep our kids fre
21:50 rangi e
21:50 rangi thats all ive got
21:50 rangi :)
21:51 rhcl ah, yes, I've read up on freedombox previously. I need to keep track of that project
21:51 rangi yeah its really interesting
22:00 rhcl so does FulfILLment replace OCLC?
22:00 rangi wouldnt that be awesome
22:00 rangi :)
22:00 wizzyrea it could replace something like AGent
22:01 rangi or the relais one.. whatever thats called
22:01 rangi oh hey, did anyone else read kmkales email about kohacon, with the papers in it?
22:03 talljoy sidenote: I answered an email on the listserv and it appears to have gotten 'lost', i.e. my reply did not get sent to the list and is not in the archive for that message.
22:03 aarkerio I see in some pages ISBN-10 and ISBN-13, why?
22:05 rangi hmm lemme see if it got held
22:05 rangi in the meantime you can watch the new improv anywhere
22:06 rangi http://improveverywhere.com/2011/08/22/say-something-nice/
22:06 rangi :)
22:06 rangi talljoy: which mailing list?
22:06 talljoy koha community
22:06 rangi the main one, or koha-devel ?
22:06 talljoy main one
22:06 rangi hmm dont see it
22:07 rangi its not being held for moderation at least
22:07 talljoy i'm trying to login to see my options and I can't remember my password and it's not sending it to me either.
22:09 rangi i know katipo used to run greylisting, so it may take a while for it to get through if its the first one you have sent from that address
22:11 talljoy greylisted.....sounds so much more ominous than blacklisted
22:11 talljoy like being arrested and not charge.
22:11 talljoy charged.
22:11 talljoy ;-)
22:11 rangi its like that
22:11 rangi purgatory
22:11 rangi :)
22:12 rangi https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Greylisting
22:12 talljoy rejection hurts.....:'(
22:14 talljoy but, I shall soldier on.
22:14 talljoy lol
22:34 rangi heh
23:28 rangi heya druthb
23:28 druthb hi, rangi!