Time  Nick           Message
00:39 Agent_Dani     \o
02:25 lastnode       if i install koha from the debian packages
02:26 lastnode       will security updates get pulled in autoamtically via apt?
02:30 ibeardslee     lastnode: do you mean via the apt-get install from the standard reposiitories?
02:31 ibeardslee     standard Debian repositories?
02:44 lastnode       no from yor repos
02:44 lastnode       after i add tehm to my sources
02:44 lastnode       if i apt-get upgrade regularly on the server
02:44 lastnode       it will pull in new koha updates
02:44 lastnode       including security?
02:56 ibeardslee     not sure myself. the koha-community.org site says that the debian repo is a prerelease version of 3.2
02:56 ibeardslee     the current release is 3.4
02:58 ibeardslee     based on that *I* wouldn't go for the .deb repo
03:00 ibeardslee     someone else may give a more solid reliable answer
03:48 lastnode       ok thanks ibeardslee
04:19 lastnode       is there any way to add some british libraries to the z39.50 search?
04:19 lastnode       british/commonwealth
04:49 lastnode       http://pastebin.com/qhht2awA
04:49 lastnode       getting this error
04:50 lastnode       anyone have an idea?
04:51 lastnode       perl path error but i cant figure out exactly what is missing
05:03 * Oak          waves
05:17 lastnode       hi Oak
05:17 Oak            heya lastnode :) what's the uptime so far?
05:19 lastnode       as in?
05:20 lastnode       oh on my box?
05:20 lastnode       not deployed yet, just testing
05:20 lastnode       having this error http://pastebin.com/qhht2awA
05:32 Oak_           electricity!
05:33 Oak_           lastnode, good luck with the error ...
07:33 rangi          @later tell sekjal git is down again
07:33 huginn         rangi: The operation succeeded.
09:26 rangi          hiya magnuse
09:26 magnuse        kia ora rangi
09:27 magnuse        wassup?
09:29 rangi          just waiting for the rugby game to start
09:30 magnuse        ah, who's playing?
09:31 rangi          nz vs australia
09:32 magnuse        ah, that sounds like a match full of neighbourly "love"?
09:33 rangi          hehe yes something like that ;)
10:05 magnuse        i se Oz has about 5x the population of NZ, what are the stats for the results of those matches?
10:06 rangi          aus 39 wins
10:07 rangi          nz 95
10:07 rangi          5 draws
10:07 magnuse        yay!
10:07 magnuse        that's awesome!
10:09 rangi          kick off!
10:09 magnuse        run run run fall down kick in the face!
10:10 rangi          hehe
10:22 magnuse        wow, Bug 6795 looks intriguing
10:22 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6795 enhancement, P5, ---, ian.walls, NEW , Branch-specific OPAC preferences
10:37 brandy         hello
10:37 brandy         anyone available for queries on cronjobs?
10:40 magnuse        hm, you can try... ;-)
10:41 brandy         are cronjobs really essential for indexing new biblios, OR is the zebra daemon automatically providing on the fly search and indexing?
10:42 rangi          cronjobs are essential
10:43 druthb         o/
10:43 magnuse        \o
10:44 druthb         hi, magnuse!
10:45 magnuse        hiya druthb
10:45 druthb         :)
10:45 brandy         for the moment i have no need for emailing notices and fines, just the indexing, the koha livecd refers that cronjobs aren't necessary for indexing: http://groups.google.com/group/kohalivecd/browse_thread/thread/2499977675d045ae/fbc18c080a1c7548#
10:46 rangi          its probably using the old and deprecated no-zebra method
10:46 rangi          dont do that
10:47 brandy         actually it is using zebra
10:47 rangi          then it must be running the indexing
10:47 rangi          or it wont work
10:48 rangi          there is an old daemon, that leaks memory and will crash, dont use that either
10:48 magnuse        that was the zebraqueue daemon, right?
10:48 rangi          yep
10:50 brandy         so what does "koha-zebra-ctl.sh" provide? Just the search server?
10:50 rangi          yes
10:50 brandy         so there's no method for on the fly indexing of recent biblio?
10:51 rangi          no
10:52 brandy         any example on how to add it to cron?
10:52 rangi          look at the crontab.example file in misc/cronjobs
10:53 brandy         so for indexing i have to add the line : "*/10 * * * *  $KOHA_CRON_PATH/../migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -z >/dev/null" to /etc/crontab ?
10:58 magnuse        something like that
10:58 wahanui        something like that is, like, sticking in nengard's mind
10:59 magnuse        but don't add it to /etc/crontab "by hand", use "crontab -e"
10:59 magnuse        it will do the indexing every 10 minutes
11:00 magnuse        and make sure $KOHA_CRON_PATH is right for your system, or use an absolute file path
11:01 brandy         what would be an ideal interval? Considering that I have at least 40 000 biblios?
11:01 rangi          ahh thats not many at all
11:01 rangi          5 or 10 mins
11:03 magnuse        depends more on how often bib records change than on the size of the collection, i'd say
11:03 magnuse        the -z switch to rebuild_zebra.pl makes sure only records that have changed are updated
11:03 magnuse        not all 40 000
11:03 brandy         that would be more or less 150 biblio every 3 weeks
11:05 magnuse        i have it set up to run every minute, but i only have experience from smaller libraries
11:05 brandy         any idea on how much cpu and ram gets used up?
11:09 magnuse        not really, but my guess would be "less than you think" ;-) try it and see!
11:10 brandy         thanks a lot :-)
11:10 magnuse        no problem!
11:55 huginn         New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6799] rebuild_zebra.pl -x produces invalid XML records <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6799>
12:50 jcamins_away   Does anyone have an up-to-date mirror of git.k-c.org?
12:50 jcamins_away   Oh, here's one. repo.or.cz/koha.git
13:20 magnuse        wow that's some heavy weather approaching the us!
13:37 * Oak          #waves
13:37 magnuse        o/
13:37 Oak            magnuse
13:37 magnuse        Oak
13:37 Oak            how are you?
13:38 Oak            Hello Soupermanito
13:39 magnuse        fine, thanks - doing some boring admin work (accounts etc)
13:39 Oak            oho, good luck with that :)
13:39 magnuse        thanks
13:39 magnuse        and yourself?
13:39 Oak            but that is the kind of work you can do with some background music on. I'll say no more :)
13:40 Soupermanito   hello oak
13:40 Oak            just waiting for fast to be over for today... ~10 minutes
13:40 magnuse        yay
13:40 magnuse        what you having?
13:41 Oak            oooh wait, let me go have a peek
13:42 Oak            oh well, my sisters can't cook much (mom is at my aunt since yesterday). Anyway, there is fruit salad, pakoreys, lot of drinks...
13:42 magnuse        sounds nice! ;-)
13:43 Oak            they're calling me. later :)
13:50 jcamins_away   Argh! I can't get VirtualHosts to work.
13:51 magnuse        you have my deepest sympathy, jcamins_away
13:51 magnuse        usually a detail in some file you did not take into consideration... ;-)
13:51 jcamins_away   Oh, maybe it's because the port specification was wrong.
13:51 jcamins_away   No.
13:51 jcamins_away   Oh, yes.
13:52 jcamins_away   Now, the question is, why isn't squid proxying the requests properly.
13:54 * magnuse      does not know squid
13:54 * jcamins_away either
13:56 jcamins_away   Oh, it's because I missed "vhost."
13:56 jcamins_away   Where are temporary session files stored?
13:57 jcamins_away   /tmp, it looks like.
14:41 jcamins_away   Anyone have any thoughts on bug 6800?
14:41 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6800 enhancement, P5, ---, jcamins, NEW , Koha authentication should handle proxies better
14:51 * magnuse      wanders off to look for mushrooms in the forest
14:52 ketchup        suppose he really is going mushroom hunting?
14:53 ketchup        shaggy mane mushrooms have been sprouting in lawns all around my area--just now dying off
15:23 jcamins_away   Yikes. C4::Auth is hairy.
15:28 huginn         New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 6791 - editing list with apostrophe loses text <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e73965c62f3895d5bdf5ad0a52c89e54e248f8f1> / Bug 6733 - Change return page after printing routing slip <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=99b51e03183ec79f6ce46834207511702c2599d6> / Bug 6765: sip2 unicode checksum <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdi
17:47 cait           hi #koha :)
17:48 Agent_Dani     Hi cait
17:54 cait           hi Agent_Dani :)
17:54 cait           @seen druthb
17:54 huginn         cait: druthb was last seen in #koha 7 hours, 9 minutes, and 25 seconds ago: <druthb> :)
18:21 bg             NateC?
18:21 wahanui        I LIKE SPACE!
18:25 druthb         o/
18:56 cait           hi again #koha
19:00 bg             heya cait
19:00 cait           hi bg :)
19:00 bg             how's germany
19:00 cait           today it's rainy
19:00 bg             or even better how's cait
19:00 cait           how is california?
19:01 bg             far away from irene
19:01 cait           cait is in berlin, but going back to konstanz tomorrow
19:01 bg             I think nate's basement will flood tomorrow
19:02 cait           :(
19:04 cait           didn't see much of the news the last few days
19:24 cait1          t
20:49 cait1          @wunder schöneberg
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20:49 cait1          @wunder Konstanz
20:49 huginn         cait1: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 11.4�C (10:48 PM CEST on August 27, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1021.9 hPa (Steady).
20:50 bg             @wunder 93109
20:50 huginn         bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 26.4�C (1:49 PM PDT on August 27, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 17.0�C. Pressure: 29.81 in 1009.4 hPa (Falling).
20:50 bg             @wunder 06516
20:50 huginn         bg: The current temperature in Third Avenue Park, West Haven, Connecticut is 25.1�C (4:45 PM EDT on August 27, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 24.0�C. Pressure: 29.82 in 1009.7 hPa (Falling).  Hurricane Warning in effect... 
22:03 Brooke         morena