Time  Nick            Message
00:13 mtj             eythian: yep, i agree -  theres no db differences between our versions
00:14 eythian         actually, I just changed it by removing the ratingid column and setting borrowernumber and biblionumber as a composite key, but that's a fairly small change.
00:14 mtj             so your clients wont have any problems with either version, in 3.6
00:14 eythian         yeah
00:19 mtj             aah, composite-key is a new trick for me
00:20 mtj             does that make basic-level sql queries trickier?
00:20 eythian         no, it just ensures that the combination of borrower and biblio is unique and indexed as a pair.
00:21 eythian         which, given most of the searches are like that, is a bit faster.
00:23 mtj             ha, im sold :)   it sounds like a good way to go
00:40 eythian         mtj: sent up now.
00:43 eythian         hmm, that seems to be missing a file
00:45 eythian         there we go
00:47 huginn          New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5668] Star ratings in the opac <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5668>
01:36 jenkins_koha    Starting build 38 for job Koha_3.4.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
01:41 chris_n         85 bugs squashed in 3.4.4; nice work koha peps :-)
01:43 rangi           w00t!
01:43 rangi           chris_n++
01:43 chris_n         217 bugs squashed since 3.4.0
01:44 chris_n         for interested parties: http://tinyurl.com/3asw2ku
01:46 chris_n         that's available as a bugzilla search titled '3.4.x Bugs'
01:46 chris_n         now off to bed
01:48 rangi           cool thanks
02:08 druthb          o/
02:09 rangi           hiya druthb
02:09 druthb          hi, rangi! :D  *hug*
02:10 rangi           where are you at now?
02:10 druthb          Indianapolis, IN.  Spent the day working at larryb's place.
02:11 rangi           ahhh cool
02:12 druthb          That's the plan for tomorrow, too.  :)  Lindsey likes it over there; plays with the cats and goofs off a lot.
02:13 rangi           sweet
02:13 druthb          This campground is not as shady as the others we have been at....the tent might well be uninhabitable mid-day.
02:14 rangi           ahhh, yeah not being in the tent is a good idea :)
02:16 druthb          Next week, we're in Sioux Falls, SD, then Lawrence, KS (wizzyrea country), then Tennessee, then North Carolina, and back to DC for doc visits and a presentation to the national organization for GLBT science and tech professionals Chesapeake chapter.
02:16 rangi           awesome
02:17 druthb          Probably back to Bird-In-Hand for a couple of weeks, then to Philly, where Lindsey will stay while I'm in India.
02:17 jenkins_koha    Project Koha_3.4.x build #38: SUCCESS in 41 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.4.x/38/
02:17 jenkins_koha    * f.demians: 3.4.4 Translation Update
02:17 jenkins_koha    * chris.nighswonger: Release Notes for
02:17 jenkins_koha    * chris.nighswonger: Updating Version Number to
02:18 druthb          might sneak up to NYC for a few days right before India, to see mr & mrs jcamins.  :)
02:19 rangi           ahh good idea
02:59 rangi           http://blog.bluefeet.net/2011/08/using-dbi-effectively-bind_columns/
03:02 eythian         I'd not seen that, nor using \my
03:03 rangi           yeah me iehter
03:03 chilts          heh, I'd like to see that being used when you're pulling 10 or more columns out  :)
03:04 eythian         naw, then you'd use fetchrow_hashref({})
03:06 chilts          I pretty much use that exclusively (either on it's own, or in conjunction with a selectall_arrayref with no slice)
03:06 rangi           i can see doing that in a few places tho
03:06 rangi           when you are just fetching a biblionumber or something
03:07 chilts          seems like typing three lines in in exchange for a shorter variable name doesn't seem worth it
03:07 chilts          though it does get extra checking I suppose
03:08 eythian         also faster
03:08 rangi           yup
03:08 eythian         so for doing huge dumps it may be worthwhile too
03:08 rangi           and typing less has never been a good argument imho ;)
03:08 eythian         it's only one more line, anyway
03:08 chilts          true
03:09 chilts          I think faster also hasn't been a good argument either :)
03:09 rangi           :)
03:09 eythian         it is when doing rebuild_zebra :)
03:10 * chilts        can't be arsed anymore
03:10 rangi           hehe
03:10 eythian         though, for small to medium size things, it'll be more readable.
03:11 chilts          if you want faster for getting a few columns in a tight loop, then a selectall will be faster than fetching one row at a time ... even if it saves when making a variable or two, it wins since you do less db round-trips :)
03:11 eythian         good point
03:12 chilts          (probably, but who knows until you profile) :)
03:12 chilts          heh
03:12 rangi           actually that might be a win for rebuild_zebra right there
03:12 rangi           or it might eat all the ram and we die
03:12 rangi           :)
03:12 chilts          heh
03:12 huginn          New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 6728, Table sorter for receiving acquisitions <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=cbdb5a823aa6387e77adb63e3ff389103ce8f603> / Bug 6703 : Link to invoice broken <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b78004c8e1e4c01ec44feede84bca58a9921664c>
03:13 chilts          also, behind the scenes, sometimes DBI may get a number of rows at the same time, which I guess obscures what it's really doing
03:13 rangi           tis true
03:13 chilts          it may get a lot and therefore wouldn't make much difference anyway, but it'll be worth trying
03:13 eythian         yeah, I think it just loads smarter
03:13 chilts          it's a minefield :)
03:21 jenkins_koha    Starting build 389 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #385 4 j 17 h ago)
03:28 huginn          New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 6726 - When SMS is enabled the messaging table is misaligned <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3270d384c53c04eee44fa54ed065eebb0741df22>
03:56 Brooke          kia ora
03:56 rangi           hi Brooke
03:56 Brooke          :)
03:57 Brooke          oak++
04:02 huginn          New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'kc/new/enh/bug_6540' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=75a4efa7042a8d15ba7832d67b8670282da3abbc> / Bug 6540 - Followup - koha-create would die without --configfile <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=31bb901e2b31748dd86e7da45672c42a5359c5a4>
04:05 jenkins_koha    Project Koha_master build #389: STILL UNSTABLE in 44 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/389/
04:05 jenkins_koha    * Chris Cormack: Bug 6703 : Link to invoice broken
04:05 jenkins_koha    * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6728, Table sorter for receiving acquisitions
04:05 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6703 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, henridamien, NEW , can't see invoice content
04:05 jenkins_koha    * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6726 - When SMS is enabled the messaging table is misaligned
04:05 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6728 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Table sorter for receiving acquisitions
04:05 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6726 normal, P5, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , When SMS is enabled the messaging table is misaligned
04:05 jenkins_koha    Starting build 390 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #385 4 j 18 h ago)
04:09 Brooke          0/
04:09 Brooke          your ears must be burning.
04:11 Judit           hello
04:12 jransom         hiy
04:12 Brooke          hey Oak
04:12 Oak             hey Brooke :^)
04:12 Oak             ♥ #koha
04:13 rangi           hi Oak
04:13 Oak             Hello rangi :)
04:13 Judit           can i have a question? (just because i know how much rangi loves this line)
04:15 Judit           so in Serial, when you receive it, and want to add an item
04:15 Judit           sometimes you have the link Click to add item sometimes you dont
04:15 Judit           blabla.com/cgi-bin/koha/serials/serials-edit.pl?subscriptionid=6&serstatus=1,3
04:16 Judit           so what do i need to do to have the Click to add item link
04:16 Judit           all the time
04:17 rangi           make sure your subscription is set up to add items
04:18 Judit           create an item record when receiving this serial
04:18 rangi           yep
04:18 Judit           is highlited
04:18 rangi           then no idea
04:18 Brooke          brb
04:18 Judit           http://koha-3.2demo-staff.osslabs.biz/cgi-bin/koha/serials/serials-edit.pl?subscriptionid=48&serstatus=1,3
04:18 Judit           a demo site
04:18 rangi           thats old 3.2
04:18 Judit           :) i so knew it
04:18 Judit           but come on
04:19 Judit           i have the same problem in our 3.4
04:19 rangi           then you'll have to figure it out then :)
04:19 Judit           okay
04:20 Judit           let me ask it again
04:20 Judit           if i choose create an item record when receiving this serial on the edit derial page
04:20 rangi           no i mean i dont know
04:20 rangi           you will have to figure it out
04:20 Judit           what is the default
04:20 wahanui         the default is ports for those who dont have access/skills to run dns
04:22 Brooke          oh that's just scary
04:22 Brooke          me olde long range plan is still good XD
04:23 Oak             :)
04:26 chilts          interesting thoughts -> http://librariansmatter.com/blog/2011/06/14/tools-for-teaching-coding-to-kids/
04:26 chilts          not sure I'd agree with the choice of languages though :)
04:26 chilts          Perl ftw
04:26 eythian         Not for teaching
04:26 Brooke          OMG
04:27 Brooke          that is like what I need
04:27 eythian         Logo, Scratch, then Smalltalk (in the Squeak environment)
04:27 chilts          heh
04:27 chilts          where's the fun in that?
04:27 Brooke          if I can't learn what a 6 year old can, there's no excuse.
04:28 eythian         chilts: squeak is brilliant, you can inspect and modify any element of the running system
04:28 Brooke          mmm firebug for a computer :)
04:29 eythian         and if it's a GUI element you want to to inspect, you do so by right-clicking on it (or something like that)
04:29 eythian         it's really good for doing f
04:29 eythian         fast, effective UIs
04:29 * Brooke        drools.
04:29 eythian         (not for end-user software, but prototyping or messing about)
04:30 eythian         If I were teaching someone, it'd be where I'd consider starting.
04:30 Brooke          eythian++
04:31 eythian         also, made as a collaboration between Disney and Apple many years ago.
04:31 Oak             eythian++
04:49 jenkins_koha    Project Koha_master build #390: STILL UNSTABLE in 43 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/390/
04:49 jenkins_koha    magnus: Bug 6540 - Followup - koha-create would die without --configfile
04:49 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6540 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, magnus, ASSIGNED , Add more options to koha-create
05:04 Brooke          http://www.mlkmemorial.org/
05:06 Brooke          Hi
05:08 Nabonita        hi
05:09 Nabonita        i'm looking for koha developers whom we can hire to get some customizations
05:10 eythian         Nabonita: a good place to start for that information is here: http://koha-community.org/support/paid-support/
05:11 rangi           speaking of which i need to get wizzyrea to update our listing
05:24 Nabonita        Thanks for the link. I contacted several companies from the paid support list but not got any response
05:30 jransom         14 minutes is probably a bit quick to be expecting  response :D
05:33 Brooke          check the RFCs on the wiki, too
05:33 Brooke          there might be work in progress
05:33 Brooke          or specced out and waiting for big bags of money
05:53 rangi           I can confirm catalyst got no email
06:12 cait            morning #koha
06:16 magnuse         kia ora #koha
06:17 magnuse         @wunder boo
06:17 huginn          magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo Vi, Norway is 11.0�C (8:00 AM CEST on August 23, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Rising).
06:17 cait            @wunder Konstanz
06:17 huginn          cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 20.0�C (8:00 AM CEST on August 23, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 20.0�C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1016 hPa (Rising).
06:18 magnuse         that sounds pleasant
06:22 hdl             hi
06:22 hdl             @wunder marseille
06:22 huginn          hdl: The current temperature in Marseille / Marignane, France is 24.0�C (8:00 AM CEST on August 23, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1016 hPa (Rising).
06:22 hdl             well seems a little under the reality
06:23 cait            magnuse: still early, will probably be quite hot today
06:24 cait            hi hdl
06:24 magnuse         kia ora hdl
06:37 reiveune        hello
06:37 wahanui         niihau, reiveune
06:44 magnuse         bonjour biblibre
06:46 sophie_m        hello magnuse
06:50 julian          hello!
07:17 rangi           @wunder Wellington nz
07:17 huginn          rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 11.0�C (7:00 PM NZST on August 23, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 30.42 in 1030 hPa (Steady).
07:17 magnuse         sounds familiar...
07:26 raj100          hi
07:26 magnuse         hiya raj100
07:26 raj100          hi magnuse
07:27 raj100          i have an issue with koha search can someone help me to resolve it
07:30 kf              hi #koha
07:30 magnuse         raj100: no guarantees, but describe your problem and we will see...
07:30 raj100          ?
07:31 raj100          thanks magnuse4
07:31 raj100          i will describe it now
07:33 raj100          2011] opac-search.pl: We called GetMarcBiblio with a biblionumber that doesn't e                                                                                                 xist biblionumber= at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Biblio.pm line 1092., referer: http                                                                                                 ://
07:34 raj100          this is the koha koha-opac-error_log
07:35 raj100          and i am using zebra indexing. indexing is done and the search results were showing the count with out content
07:36 rangi           have you been deleting biblios?
07:36 raj100          no i have not
07:38 rangi           normally that error occurs if an item/biblio has been deleted but is still in the index
07:38 rangi           how many biblio do you have in your db?
07:38 raj100          ok i will check and tell you now
07:39 rangi           first thing i would try is
07:39 rangi           run rebuild_zebra.pl with -r -v -x b
07:39 rangi           sorry -r -v -x -b
07:39 rangi           to do a full reindex and see if that fixes it
07:40 rangi           (make sure you do that as the user that runs zebrasrv)
07:42 francharb       morning everyone
07:43 raj100          i will do and get back to you rangi
07:43 rangi           cool, good luck
07:43 rangi           http://infomalias.wordpress.com/2011/08/23/mla-koha-pilot-project-2011-gaining-momentum/
07:44 magnuse         maldives? cool!
07:45 rangi           yup
07:45 magnuse         ooh, nice place for a kohacon... ;-)
07:45 rangi           hehe yes
07:46 kf              :)
07:48 magnuse         rangi: did you map mu email address to "libriotech" in you stats? if so: way cool! :-)
07:48 magnuse         s/mu/my/
08:00 kf              @wunder konstanz
08:00 huginn          kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 23.5�C (9:58 AM CEST on August 23, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: 21.0�C. Pressure: 29.97 in 1014.8 hPa (Falling).
08:03 rangi           magnuse: yup i did
08:04 kf              he also merged kf and cait for the irc statistics...
08:04 magnuse         yay!
08:06 magnuse         thanks rangi
08:06 rangi           np
08:13 rangi           http://www.nzlla.org.nz/documents/NZLLA%20Symposium%202011%20programme%20final%20revision%203%20.pdf  <-- what im doing tomorrow and thursday
08:26 magnuse         no koha on the programme? doing sales pitch?
08:30 rangi           on thursday
08:30 rangi           the automation panel, 2 of the 3 ppl are koha users
08:30 rangi           (treasury and opus)
08:32 magnuse         ah, cool!
08:45 kf              :)
09:13 rangi           Peak for #koha 58 (Tue Aug 23 01:54:31 2011)
09:13 rangi           seems our busiest time is 2am nz time
09:20 kf              hm
10:21 hdl             rangi: looks quite usual to say hello to america.
10:24 rangi           yep, that makes sense
11:28 raj478          hi rangi
11:29 raj478          your suggestion worked for me
11:29 raj478          thanks a lot.....
11:51 huginn          New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6707] Add alternative, textual MARC editor <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6707>
11:55 druthb          o
11:55 druthb          o/
11:55 druthb          \o
11:55 druthb          \o/
11:56 hdl             hi
11:56 druthb          hi, hdl.  :)
11:57 magnuse         o/
11:57 magnuse         The Story of Linux: Commemorating 20 Years of the Linux Operating System  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ocq6_3-nEw&feature=youtu.be
11:58 Agent_Dani      \o
12:45 druthb          g'morning, Joy! :D
12:47 Agent_Dani      Hi talljoy and NateC
12:47 NateC           hello!
12:48 talljoy         hi
12:56 tcohen          hi #koha
12:57 tcohen          congrats for this 3.4.4 relase
13:21 rhck            oops
13:28 slef            wizzyrea: you got George Michaeled at lunch yesterday? Buh? A policeman followed you into the toilet? You were driving drugged? You were singing increasingly explicit pop songs?
13:28 slef            hi all :)
13:29 oleonard        Someone woke her up before they went-went?
13:29 magnuse         kia or slef
13:30 rhcl            is this something I need to drive down there and check on?
13:31 magnuse         kia ora mtj
13:45 magnuse         wow, 75 bugs need signoff!
13:45 magnuse         next gbsd?
13:45 wahanui         next gbsd is probably http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/2011-09-02_Global_bug_squashing_day
13:47 oleonard        Wow, 92 bugs with "Does not apply" or "Failed QA" status...
13:48 wizzyrea        slef: thanks for the morning giggle
13:49 wizzyrea        more like, exposed to george michael songs against my will
13:49 wizzyrea        I was instantly transported to the 80's
13:49 wizzyrea        and I'm not sure I liked it
13:52 magnuse         ah, so time travel ain't all what it's cranked up to be?
13:53 magnuse         "yes, we invented time travel, but you can only go to 1983"
13:53 * wizzyrea      shudders
13:54 kf              hey
13:54 kf              1983 was not that bad
13:54 kf              I think...
13:55 magnuse         kf: i'm guessing you don't remember all of it?
13:56 kf              better say I remember none of it...
13:56 magnuse         hehe
13:56 jwagner         I was too busy helping to organize the '83 Worldcon to notice (World Science Fiction Convention, that is)
13:56 wizzyrea        I think I remember a trip to disneyland...
13:58 kf              :)
13:58 kf              see, a good year
13:59 magnuse         and there's http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983..._%28A_Merman_I_Should_Turn_to_Be%29
13:59 pelletiermaxime I wasn't even born, so not a good year for me :p
14:00 * wizzyrea      now feels old.
14:00 oleonard        1983 saw the release of Return of the Jedi, so that was a pretty big year for me
14:00 magnuse         ooh
14:02 oleonard        For more feeling old: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_in_film#Births
14:02 magnuse         anyone had any sleep-induced revelations re the gamification thingy?
14:03 wizzyrea        have you looked at the wiki today magnus?
14:03 wizzyrea        i added a bunch of stuff after you wandered off with your ice cream :)
14:03 magnuse         yeah, i just edited it even... ;-)
14:03 wizzyrea        cool!
14:03 magnuse         that was quick
14:03 kf              :)
14:04 wizzyrea        I'm a little bit uncomfortable still with letting other patrons put comments (a la facebook) on people's library profile
14:04 wizzyrea        i can't explain why though
14:05 magnuse         leaving that out would be fine by me
14:06 wizzyrea        but yea, that brought up another idea
14:06 wizzyrea        which is noted there
14:07 magnuse         i'm thinking there is very little chance of the opac taking off as a social network anyway... but then again, there might be settings where it might work, like schools perhaps?
14:07 wizzyrea        which is an OPAC first login tutorial
14:07 wizzyrea        did you have a look at http://code.google.com/p/userinfuser/
14:07 wizzyrea        not that we necessarily want to use it
14:07 wizzyrea        but it might be a good example
14:08 wizzyrea        on how to go about it
14:08 magnuse         no, didn't have time to follow the links yet
14:11 magnuse         yeah, looks interesting!
14:12 magnuse         looks like it runs on Google App Engine, and has libraries for accessing the API from different programming languages?
14:12 wizzyrea        *nod* I'm not sure that we'd necessarily want to run it alongside koha
14:12 wizzyrea        but since it's GPL we can definitely use some of their ideas in creating our own, if we choose
14:13 magnuse         yup
14:25 wizzyrea        aside, I think the ability to show something (even an external link) at first login would be cool.
14:26 magnuse         wizzyrea: you mean the first time ever a patron logs on?
14:26 wizzyrea        yea
14:26 magnuse         ah, yes that might be cool!
14:27 wizzyrea        of course a generic first login tutorial would be helpful, but the ability to redirect to custom library specific content would be nice too.
14:27 magnuse         yeah!
14:27 kf              A help link for a custom toturial in koha's opac would be cool
14:27 kf              similar to the online help in staff
14:27 magnuse         yup
14:28 wizzyrea        you guys have used dropbox right?
14:28 wizzyrea        and you've logged into their web interface?
14:28 magnuse         it could be displayed very obviously until the user clicks "do not show this again", perhaps?
14:28 wizzyrea        yea, exactly
14:28 magnuse         wizzyrea: yeah, a couple times
14:29 wizzyrea        you know how they walk you through a set of steps before they leave you alone?
14:29 magnuse         they have little boxes pointing at things?
14:29 wizzyrea        I'm thinking of something like that
14:29 wizzyrea        exactly
14:29 wizzyrea        "Here is your account!"
14:29 wizzyrea        "Renew your books here"
14:29 magnuse         yeah, that's cool!
14:29 wizzyrea        "see your reading history"
14:29 wizzyrea        "contact the library"
14:29 wizzyrea        etc
14:29 kf              perhaps soething like a beginner's mode?
14:30 magnuse         yeah
14:30 kf              that can be turned off by the patron
14:30 magnuse         yeah!
14:30 wizzyrea        yes, that's the best term I've heard for it
14:30 kf              and activated by patron category
14:30 kf              on creation active if you say so for the category
14:30 wizzyrea        *nod*
14:30 magnuse         yay
14:31 wizzyrea        (and an achievement for "completing" it)
14:31 wizzyrea        :P
14:31 wizzyrea        like dropbox
14:31 magnuse         :-=
14:31 magnuse         s/:-=/:-)/
14:33 wizzyrea        http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Beginner_mode
14:34 kf              it seems a little broken
14:34 kf              where does beginner mode link link to?
14:34 wizzyrea        well there's not a lot in that page
14:34 wizzyrea        i'm not sure how it's broken it's working for me
14:35 kf              the sidebar is at a odd place for me
14:35 kf              lots of free space above it
14:35 kf              might be something local
14:35 wizzyrea        yea that happens sometimes on this wiki i'm not sure why
14:36 magnuse         seems to happen when there isn't a category on the page?
14:36 libsysguy       can anybody tell me the difference between a serial and a subscription
14:36 wizzyrea        there should be a category now
14:38 magnuse         yep, and it looks good
14:42 slef            libsysguy: you subscribe to a serial?
14:43 slef            anyone know why biblioitems.publicationyear wouldn't be linked to 260$c in a marc21 koha?
14:43 libsysguy       so it is like Serial -> serialitems
14:43 libsysguy       then serial ->subscription ->subscriptionhirtosry
14:44 wizzyrea        http://library.rit.edu/liv/
14:44 * magnuse       goes for a walk
14:46 kf              slef: because we link copyrightdate to that
14:46 kf              slef: and UNIMARC does publicationyear... or something like that
14:47 kf              and don't ask me why
14:47 kf              but it was something I ran into when I was testing acquisitions
14:52 slef            kf: thanks. I'll look at copyrightdate again
14:54 slef            kf: nope, we've not got copyrightdate linked to it either.
14:54 slef            it's seriously unlinked. :-/
15:06 slef            What's the process for getting a patch pushed to master back to Failed QA?
15:06 oleonard        Ask rangi to revert it I think
15:07 oleonard        What'd you find?
15:07 slef            bug 6277 made koha-conf.xml executable
15:07 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6277 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , CustomLog by default
15:07 slef            no, koha-httpd.conf
15:07 slef            it's still executable in master today
15:07 wizzyrea        d/oh
15:09 slef            @later tell rangi please could you revert the patch from bug 6277, or chmod -x etc/koha-httpd.conf in master if that's simpler?
15:09 huginn          slef: The operation succeeded.
15:20 aarkerio        hi! where can I handle the "Shelving control number" ?
15:20 wizzyrea        magnus_afk: you have cool friends :) http://findthefuture.nypl.org/#/
15:26 reiveune        bye
15:29 huginn          New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6765] Enable correct checksums for UTF-8 encoded data <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6765>
15:31 McLean_Library  Hi all... trying to install Koha and running into a couple of dependency problems
15:32 McLean_Library  I'm unable to install CGI::Session::Driver::memcached
15:33 McLean_Library  also Memoize::Memcached
15:33 McLean_Library  are these necessary if I don't intend to use the memcached server?
15:37 kf              slef: hm strange!
15:37 kf              slef: have you checked the default frameworks?
15:39 McLean_Library  sorry, but what do you mean by default frameworks?
15:39 McLean_Library  I believe the issue is related to Cache::Memcached
15:40 McLean_Library  which is a prerequisite for both of my missing dependencies
15:40 kf              McLean_Library: I was talking so slef - sorry for causing confusion
15:40 McLean_Library  oops!
15:40 kf              :)
15:40 kf              and no, I don't think you need it when you don't use the memcache feature
15:41 slef            kf: not yet
15:43 aarkerio        McLean_Library, what cpan say?
15:44 aarkerio        I mean:    $sudo cpan CGI::Session::Driver::memcached
15:45 McLean_Library  Hi -- it fails trying to install the Cache::Memcached prerequisite
15:46 wizzyrea        which is?
15:46 slef            @wunder weston-super-mare SOMERSET
15:46 huginn          slef: The current temperature in Weston-Super-Mare, United Kingdom is 21.3�C (4:45 PM BST on August 23, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 29.97 in 1014.8 hPa (Steady).
15:46 McLean_Library  05_reconnect_timeout.t --> "Expected pause while connecting"
15:47 kf              @wunder Konstanz
15:47 huginn          kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 31.3�C (5:43 PM CEST on August 23, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 40%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 29.88 in 1011.7 hPa (Steady).
15:48 wizzyrea        McLean_Library: can you sudo apt-get install memcached?
15:48 aarkerio        McLean_Library, look in your distro repositories
15:48 aarkerio        In debian-based:   $sudo apt-get install ibcgi-session-driver-memcached-perl
15:48 McLean_Library  @wizzyrea: I was able to install memcached using apt-get install memcache
15:48 huginn          McLean_Library: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
15:48 * slef          offers to take those 10 degrees from kf
15:49 wizzyrea        and it's not working?
15:49 McLean_Library  @aarkerio:  I haven't tried that, but will now
15:49 huginn          McLean_Library: downloading the Perl source
15:49 aarkerio        or  $sudo apt-get install libcache-memcached-perl
15:49 wizzyrea        ^^ is probably a better one
15:49 aarkerio        sometimes you need restart your webserver
15:50 oleonard        McLean_Library: You don't need the "@." That's why the bot huginn is complaining.
15:50 McLean_Library  thanks oleonard...
15:51 slef            ah, differences between twitter and IRC
15:51 slef            fewer people on IRC at any one time => less need to mark nicknames
15:55 McLean_Library  ok, I apt-got libcache-memcached-perl and restarted apache
15:55 McLean_Library  and was then able to cpan the missing modules successfully
15:55 McLean_Library  thanks so much!
15:55 wizzyrea        woohoo
15:55 McLean_Library  now to run the makefile again and see if it's good
15:56 McLean_Library  sweet!
15:56 McLean_Library  thanks again
15:57 wizzyrea        :) glad it's working
15:57 wizzyrea        stop by anytime ;)
15:57 McLean_Library  will do... maybe sooner than later :)
16:14 aarkerio        mmm, I can add an item:
16:14 aarkerio        http://decodic.incan.edu.mx/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=4
16:14 aarkerio        but I can't find it using OPAC search
16:14 aarkerio        why?
16:15 kf              search faq?
16:15 wahanui         search faq is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/searching/
16:15 kf              :)
16:15 kf              can you search at all?
16:16 slef            errr, why's the search faq blank?
16:16 slef            wizzyrea: someone's stolen the faq!
16:16 kf              good question
16:16 wizzyrea        oh dear, sec
16:17 kf              aarkerio: is your zebrasrv running?
16:17 kf              and have to go - bye all!
16:17 slef            bye kf and enjoy!
16:18 slef            @later tell cait solved - thanks for listening!
16:18 huginn          slef: The operation succeeded.
16:22 * slef          thinks a grue has got aarkerio
16:25 huginn          New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6766] Template variable scope errors in holds template <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6766>
16:35 wizzyrea        hrmph. apparently a plugin update at the faq categories.
16:35 * wizzyrea      is annoyed.
16:35 wizzyrea        s/at/ate
16:38 slef            want me to report the bug?
16:39 wizzyrea        sure
16:39 slef            plugin version?
16:39 wizzyrea        the content is all still there, just the categories are gone. Should be easy enough to recreate
16:39 wizzyrea        1.3.3
16:40 wizzyrea        oh bless whoever fixed the paging on parameterized saved reports.
16:47 wizzyrea        hrmph, somewhere there is a function that is transferring items, and you get something like Oskaloosa instead of OSKALOOSA
16:49 wizzyrea        for tobranch
16:49 slef            wizzyrea: what's the plugin's exact name? I don't have plugins in my dashboard :(
16:49 wizzyrea        DS_FAQ
16:50 slef            not found @ wordpress.org - got link? :(
16:50 wizzyrea        yea, sec
16:50 slef            wp-ds-faq?
16:51 wizzyrea        yes, sorry, specificity fail
16:51 slef            np. Reporting...
16:51 slef            hrm, doing the password reset shuffle
17:02 slef            wizzyrea: http://wordpress.org/support/topic/plugin-wp-ds-faq-upgrade-lost-categories
17:02 wizzyrea        awesome, thanks
17:02 wizzyrea        I will look into getting the categories re-inserted this afternoon
17:03 slef            cool, thanks
17:08 cait            nengard: around?
17:08 nengard         yes
17:08 nengard         is this about my most recent bug?
17:08 cait            the duplicate subscription bug - I had a patch for that
17:08 nengard         cause i just learned that i wan't on master
17:08 nengard         k
17:08 cait            ah
17:08 cait            yep :)
17:09 cait            it should be fixed on master :)
17:09 nengard         i'll mark it invalid
17:09 cait            I can give you the bug number
17:09 nengard         no i trust you
17:09 nengard         :)
17:09 cait            it was the serials not working bug with 3 problems
17:09 cait            bug 6305
17:09 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6305 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, RESOLVED FIXED, The serials are not working properly
17:10 cait            nengard: I hope I didn't miss an instance or something - so perhaps you still want to make sure
17:10 nengard         yeah i'll test on master just in case
17:10 nengard         but i'm pretty sure i've had no problem on my system
17:11 nengard         and it's just the system i was testing on
17:12 cait            cool
17:13 cait            I was worried I made a mistake there
17:21 wizzyrea        argh!
17:21 wizzyrea        somewhere there is a transit function that causes the tobranch to be mixed case
17:22 wizzyrea        instead of all caps
17:24 cait            oh?
17:24 wizzyrea        http://paste.koha-community.org/14
17:24 cait            weird!
17:24 wizzyrea        i'll grant you
17:24 wizzyrea        that example is weird anyway
17:24 cait            hm
17:24 wizzyrea        because a transit to/from the same place?
17:25 cait            is the description Wellsvile too?
17:25 wizzyrea        w.e.i.r.d
17:25 wizzyrea        no
17:25 cait            I wonder it's starting with a capital
17:25 cait            where did it get that from?
17:25 wizzyrea        the description would be Wellsville Community Library
17:25 cait            ok
17:25 wizzyrea        but it's not putting that all in
17:25 cait            field is not long enough, but it's probably not what it#s doing
17:26 pastebot        "wizzyrea" at pasted "another example, not so weird" (1 line) at http://paste.koha-community.org/15
17:26 wizzyrea        and it's only in tobranch, not frombranch
17:27 wizzyrea        interestingly, it has to be a workflow thing
17:27 wizzyrea        because some libraries generate a lot of these
17:27 wizzyrea        others none
17:30 pastebot        "wizzyrea" at pasted "item with full contents of branchtransfers" (2 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/16
17:32 wizzyrea        http://screencast.com/t/UkdCRjIZy
17:32 wizzyrea        this is what it looks like in the interface when it happens
17:35 cait            :(
17:36 cait            which version are you currently?
17:36 wizzyrea        this is pretty close to master.. sec
17:36 wizzyrea
17:36 cait            hm
17:36 wizzyrea        i think it's been happening for a while
17:36 cait            but the cases are current, not older?
17:37 wizzyrea        ribht
17:37 wizzyrea        right*
17:37 cait            hmm
17:37 cait            weird
17:37 wizzyrea        it doesn't happen *all* that often
17:38 wizzyrea        of items currently in transit that haven't arrived (3000) probably less than a hundred have this condition?
17:38 wizzyrea        dumb question of the day, how can I tell mysql to pay attention to case :P
17:39 cait            I think mysql doesn#t pay attention
17:39 cait            but you are right, shoud lbe possible to tell it to care
17:39 cait            perhaps upper() lower()
17:40 wizzyrea        (I want to ask it how many are mixed case)
17:41 cait            ask for not uppercase
17:41 wizzyrea        Ah
17:42 wizzyrea        good call
17:42 cait            not in (uppper('branchname')) perhaps
17:45 wizzyrea        ^ syntax error :/
17:45 wizzyrea        i'm piddling around with it
17:45 wizzyrea        oh strcmp might work
17:45 wizzyrea        because the strings would be different, I think?
17:45 wizzyrea        maybe not.
17:47 wizzyrea        mm no that's just length
17:48 slef            bleah - it just took me that long to get my gravatar updated, with all the interruptions
17:48 slef            I don't care. Nearly vuelta time.
17:49 slef            what are we playing with?
17:49 wizzyrea        well I have a case where a transfer has a tobranch of Xxxxxx instead of XXXXXX
17:49 wizzyrea        and 1. I don't know why
17:50 wizzyrea        and 2 I want to find only those in lower case.
17:50 wizzyrea        to see how many there are.
17:51 wizzyrea        upper/lower convert the strings
17:52 slef            where branchname != upper(branchname) ?
17:52 wizzyrea        hmm
17:53 chris_n         hmm earthquake
17:53 slef            chris_n: where?
17:53 jwagner         Good heavens.  We just had an earthquake ]
17:53 wizzyrea        !!!!
17:53 cait            oh
17:53 jwagner         DC area here
17:53 wizzyrea        whoa
17:53 chris_n         MD
17:53 chris_n         sorry
17:53 chris_n         NC
17:53 chris_n         I95 Exit 77
17:53 slef            wow... is there a fault line there?
17:53 chris_n         yes
17:53 cait            wizzyrea: oh, my mistake
17:53 wizzyrea        big earthquake?
17:54 wizzyrea        nah, sok it may still work
17:54 oleonard        I'm feeling shaking too
17:54 chris_n         weird
17:54 chris_n         the entire building was shaking
17:54 slef            http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsus/ look for the red dot
17:54 wizzyrea        ...seriously?
17:54 oleonard        Seriously
17:54 slef            mag >5
17:55 chris_n         http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/at00lqe6x3.php
17:55 oleonard        Very subtle here, but noticeable
17:55 jwagner         looks like it was along I-64 between Charlottesville & Richmond
17:55 jwagner         It was pretty noticeable here :-)
17:55 slef            wow. I was there about this time last year.
17:56 slef            google thinks it was in a river???
17:56 slef            bbl
17:56 wizzyrea        oh, I guess you're not so far away owen'
17:57 wizzyrea        i forget how close stuff is together in the east.
17:57 wizzyrea        still that's a long way away to feel an earthquake
17:57 jwagner         preliminary magnitude 5.8
17:58 oleonard        http://twitter.com/#!/search/earthquake
17:59 wizzyrea        boston!
17:59 jcamins         Wait, that _was_ an earthquake?
17:59 wizzyrea        yes, apparently it was
17:59 oleonard        jcamins never believes anything we say!
17:59 wizzyrea        pentagon being evacuated after earthquake
17:59 wizzyrea        !
18:00 jcamins         oleonard: no, Shari and I were just discussing whether there had been an earthquake.
18:03 jcamins         It looks like the answer is yes.
18:03 JesseM          jcamins: I felt it in CT
18:04 Agent_Dani      Yep. 5.8 (preliminary) centered in Virginia.
18:06 wizzyrea        pretty shallow too
18:09 oleonard        wizzyrea wanted one she could have a conversation with.
18:09 wizzyrea        it's true
18:09 jwagner         USGS now says 5.9 magnitude
18:10 jwagner         And no, we don't generally get big ones in this part of the world.  There have been a few local ones, but hardly noticeable.  The last one, I thought a large truck was driving by.
18:12 wizzyrea        *nod* 5.9 is pretty big
18:12 slef            any fracking in Virginia?
18:12 wizzyrea        or colorado?
18:12 wizzyrea        probalby almost certainly in colorado
18:12 wizzyrea        friend says she felt it in indiana
18:13 wizzyrea        http://cdn2.mixrmedia.com/wp-uploads/ziggytek/blog/2011/08/camera-vibrate.jpg
18:14 wizzyrea        lol
18:14 wizzyrea        someone took a pic while it was going on
18:14 wizzyrea        that's either an elaborate hoax or completely awesome.
18:22 chris_n         it was about 30 mins from my parents
18:22 wizzyrea        is anything damaged? reports of people hurt?
18:22 chris_n         they said the roar was very loud
18:22 chris_n         they walls of their log house were swaying
18:23 chris_n         but no damage
18:23 chris_n         thankfully
18:23 wizzyrea        *nod*
18:23 wizzyrea        that's what I care about
18:27 * chris_n       wonders if it got confused and thought this was the west coast
18:34 jwagner         picked up from USA Today site: The USGS suggests that the quake is the largest to originate in Virginia since May 31, 1897.
18:38 Agent_Dani      That's what I hear from a friend in Richmond, VA, about 30 miles away from the epicenter.
18:40 jwagner         The location details puts it Not Very Far At All from the North Anna nuclear power plant -- my sister used to be a health physics tech there.  One trusts all the little atoms are safely locked down....
18:41 * chris_n       used to fish in North Anna Lake
18:46 chris_n         I think two nuc's have shut down for safety checks
18:48 oleonard        https://twitter.com/#!/YUCKYBOT/status/106064231459323904
18:54 huginn          New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6768] Two unused include files can be removed: error-top.inc and error-bottom.inc <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6768>
18:59 cait            oleonard++
19:02 oleonard        I never find so many bugs as when I'm trying to fix bugs.
19:03 cait            yep
19:03 cait            or when testing something else
19:06 huginn          New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5028] Remove references to catmaintain.pl <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5028>
19:29 Brooke          kia ora
19:29 rhcl            Brooke!
19:29 Brooke          homie g!
19:29 Brooke          whazzah?
19:29 wizzyrea        whaddup brooke
19:30 Brooke          we had a wee rumbler
19:30 wizzyrea        i heard!
19:30 Brooke          the earthquake shack they have in museum is worse ;)
19:31 cait            hi Brooke
19:32 wizzyrea        hehe
19:32 Brooke          guten tag
19:40 huginn          New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 3431] Catalog by itemtype report pulling from holdingbranch <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3431>
19:42 cait            owen superhero :)
19:43 oleonard        Relevant to our interests: http://www.kalzumeus.com/2010/06/17/falsehoods-programmers-believe-about-names/
19:46 Brooke          if you input my Indian name, it usually makes a deprecated system cry
19:49 rhcl            If you input my Korean name into a Korean computer it laughs.
19:54 Brooke          indeed. No r sound in Korean.
19:54 Brooke          ooops
19:54 Brooke          I meant no ok
19:54 Brooke          bah
19:54 * Brooke        was Brett for a number of years.
19:55 Brooke          it was either that or Blake, and I'd rather be Brett.
20:00 rangi           morning
20:00 oleonard        Hi rangi
20:00 cait            morning rangi
20:01 rangi           @later tell slef will fix the koha-httpd.conf today, wifi permitting
20:01 huginn          rangi: The operation succeeded.
20:02 rhcl            Ah, no, I actually have a Korean name (from having been a Korean translator for 20 years and living there for 13 or so)
20:02 Brooke          morena
20:04 rangi           [off] sarumans tower crack on that earthquake?
20:07 slef            thanks rangi
20:07 cait            rain!
20:08 rangi           im hoping that since this symposium is at the uni there will be some wifi
20:08 wizzyrea        slef: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/08/23/halliburton-exec-takes-swig-fracking-fluid/?test=latestnews
20:09 cait            hm lots of rain
20:09 cait            @wunder konstanz
20:09 huginn          cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 23.4�C (10:08 PM CEST on August 23, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 19.0�C. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014.4 hPa (Rising).
20:10 rangi           frack that
20:10 slef            wizzyrea: reminds me of http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/may/16/newsid_2913000/2913807.stm so meh
20:10 wizzyrea        oh snap.
20:10 wizzyrea        fwiw I'm not really for fracking.
20:11 wizzyrea        I thought the existence of 'food grade' fracking liquid was interesting, however.
20:11 wizzyrea        s/liquid/fluid
20:11 rhcl            all the same I would decline to drink it
20:12 rangi           ditto
20:12 wizzyrea        tritto?
20:12 wizzyrea        did I just make up a word?
20:12 slef            Blackpool Shale Gas drilling suspended after quake - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-13599161
20:12 rangi           was there any damage in the quake usians?
20:13 rhcl            news isn't reporting much damage
20:13 wizzyrea        lots of evacuations
20:13 wizzyrea        but the pics I've seen of the devastation involve lawn chairs fallen over.
20:13 rangi           heh
20:13 rangi           I guess its pretty rare
20:13 rangi           like us and snow
20:13 rhcl            two nukes did shut down, but with no apparent damage
20:14 wizzyrea        yea, they say there hasn't been one that big since late 1800's
20:14 rangi           thats good
20:14 wizzyrea        *nod*
20:14 rhcl            someday though New Madrid will wake up wizzyrea and me
20:14 wizzyrea        though it wasn't in the news, there was a nuclear plant in nebraska? that was completely surrounded by flood water
20:14 rangi           how deep was it?
20:15 wizzyrea        the flood water?
20:15 rangi           the epicenter
20:15 rhcl            very shallow = 1 km
20:15 wizzyrea        oh 1km
20:15 rangi           ahh yeah, ud feel that
20:15 wizzyrea        re the nuclear plant, they had to levee the plant off and hope it held, otherwise they'd be in a similar state as fukushima.
20:16 rangi           yikes
20:16 rangi           ok my stop bbl I hope
20:16 wizzyrea        mhm... let me try to find the article(s)
20:16 wizzyrea        kk gl
20:16 wizzyrea        http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/27/fort-calhoun-nuclear-flood-nebraska-plant_n_885067.html
20:23 oleonard        This must be what you were talking about http://jmckinley.posterous.com/dc-earthquake-devastation
20:38 wizzyrea        yep that's one of the ones I saw
20:38 wizzyrea        there's a whole meme now
20:46 * chris_n       suggests googling on "liquid earth"
20:46 rangi           liquefaction
20:47 rangi           and yes, there is cafenet here
20:47 wizzyrea        noice
20:47 wizzyrea        chris_n: was there some liquefaction around?
20:48 chris_n         no, but some of the videos of it are quite impressive
20:48 chris_n         it appears the national cathedral lost a couple of spires
20:50 wizzyrea        http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/earthquake-playlist/2011/08/23/gIQAOe3UZJ_video.html
20:50 wizzyrea        yea
20:50 wizzyrea        never mind, the post sucks.
20:51 rangi           there was a lot of it in christchurch, they are still cleaning it up
20:51 jenkins_koha    Starting build 391 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #385 5 j 11 h ago)
20:51 rangi           ok, pushed the fix for koha-httpd.conf
20:51 wizzyrea        http://www.kmov.com/news/slideshows/Stones-fall-off-Washington-National-Cathedral-128266043.html?gallery=y&c=y&ref=%2F&img=1#gallery-image
20:54 chris_n         off to home to make sure the chimneys are still standing :-)
20:54 wizzyrea        ooo yea
20:54 huginn          New commit(s) kohagit: Fixing executable bit on koha-httpd.conf <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=73081505f59f2d6ba256fcab1226e43c93d7ae92>
20:54 druthb          o/
20:54 rangi           ohh a patch from ulrich at bsz
20:57 rhcl            http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/08/23/android_gpl_fsf/
20:58 cait            yep :)
21:13 rangi           man brenda chawner is awesome
21:16 jcamins         Has there really been no messages on any of the Koha lists all day?
21:16 ibeardsl1e      rangi: I assume you've seen this?  http://researcharchive.vuw.ac.nz/handle/10063/1710
21:16 wizzyrea        hmm the last one I have is linda culberson at 12:24
21:16 jcamins         Hm.
21:16 wizzyrea        and hdl at 1:35am
21:16 jcamins         I haven't gotten any.
21:16 wizzyrea        several patches from owen, too
21:17 ibeardsl1e      "Factors Influencing Participant Satisfaction with Free/Libre and Open Source Software Projects"
21:17 jcamins         wizzyrea: any chance I could persuade you to try sending me an e-mail?
21:17 rangi           yup, brenda interviewed me :)
21:17 wizzyrea        i'd love to pm me your address
21:17 rangi           jcamins/wizzyrea: i saw the mail on the bugs list
21:18 ibeardsl1e      should aim to involve her in the next academy
21:19 rangi           oh definitely
21:23 rangi           ohh the good stuff now
21:23 rangi           copyright
21:28 luisb           inquiry: would there be any adverse affect of my inserting library data directly into branches instead of using the interface?
21:33 rangi           no
21:33 rangi           as long as you put all the info in
21:33 luisb           aye, thanks!
21:35 rhcl            well laid out thesis
21:35 luisb           have there been any thoughts of having some sort of import facility for libraries?
21:35 luisb           er, branches
21:35 jenkins_koha    Project Koha_master build #391: STILL UNSTABLE in 44 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/391/
21:35 jenkins_koha    Chris Cormack: Fixing executable bit on koha-httpd.conf
21:38 rangi           nope, becuase usually the number is quite small, and its about as fast to just add them :)
21:38 rangi           but we definitely accept a patch :)
21:38 rangi           note to self, check out islandora
21:51 wizzyrea        ooo kay gotta stop by the store on the way home ttyl!
21:51 rangi           cya later
22:09 rangi           man law librarians love RSS
22:10 mtj             heya chris , i didnt know that....
22:11 rangi           neither did i
22:11 rangi           its all about 'current awareness'
22:11 rangi           the lawyers want to know whats new at all times
22:11 rangi           http://identi.ca/notice/81468800
22:14 jcamins         Aggregator-type page?
22:14 jcamins         And, yeah, they sure do like RSS.
22:15 rangi           well, what these librarians are doing, is building a page using sharepoint (puke)
22:15 rangi           that aggregates feeds for the lawyers to look at
22:15 jcamins         Ah. I see.
22:18 Irma            G'day #koha
22:18 rangi           i figure something like eric leases mylibrary
22:18 rangi           http://search.cpan.org/dist/MyLibrary/
22:19 rangi           i reckon a bunch of corporate libraries would do the same
22:20 rangi           too many ideas, not enough hours :)
22:20 rangi           hi Irma
22:20 rangi           and hi druthb
22:21 druthb          hi, rangi
22:21 jcamins         rangi: truer words were never spoken.
22:21 Irma            hi rangi .... Enjoy Wed and Thursday...Law librarians are a vivid informed and fun group!
22:21 jcamins         And, on that thought, off I go.
22:24 rangi           what the hell
22:29 rangi           Irma: yes they are :)
22:29 Irma            Quick question: what should be looked at when > Searching >Keyword> Barcode> works but Searching > Barcode does not work?
22:30 Irma            Circulation> Barcode search works ...
22:30 Irma            Strange ...
22:31 rangi           hmm
22:31 * mtj           fires up his twitter/identica client after a few weeks of downtime
22:31 Irma            hi mtj :-)
22:31 mtj             Irma: that needs a screenshot
22:31 mtj             heya
22:32 Irma            mtj ;-)
22:33 mtj             yeah, i cant visualize where your 'Searching > Barcode' is
22:34 Irma            mtj go to Search .... in advanced searching look for Barcode under the Keyword drop down menu ...
22:34 mtj             in opac?
22:42 mtj             fyi: i've confirmed the bug is in Irma's 3.2 koha, *only*
22:42 mtj             so all good
22:43 Irma            correction: this koha 3.2. is not hosted by us but another support company. CALYX does training etc....
22:44 mtj             cool
22:44 mtj             try a full zebra re-index 1st
22:46 mtj             but yeah, its a weird bug on that koha
22:47 mtj             or buggy framework mapping , is my next guess...
22:49 rangi           thatd do it
22:49 mtj             hmmm, frwrk mapping looks ok for barcode => 952$p
22:49 mtj             so its not that
22:51 aarkerio        so, where is the HTML opac template?
22:52 Irma            yes it's a nuisance I would like to help the librarian get solved ...
22:52 rangi           aarkerio: sorry? what are you asking?
22:52 mtj             aaah, leading 000's in your barcode , is the bug
22:53 aarkerio        I mean where is the base HTML code from all the OPAC pages?
22:53 aarkerio        the <body> and so
22:54 Irma            ah mtj are you sure? the number was 532 then one zero was added to match the actual barcode's number of 0532
22:54 mtj             Irma: i've confirmed that bug on another 3.2
22:55 Irma            thanks mtj will report back when we have it nailed!
22:55 rangi           aarkerio: if you want to customise the opac, editing the templates will make it very very very hard for you to upgrade in the future, you are better off using the sysprefs and jquery and css like
22:56 rangi           http://www.myacpl.org/koha/?p=160
22:56 rangi           if you want to make changes in the template and send upstream as patches
22:56 rangi           then they are in koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/prog/en/modules/
22:57 aarkerio        mmm, perfect!! thanks!
22:59 rangi           but beware, local changes that arent done using the sysprefs, make it hard for you to upgrade, so upstream or use the sysprefs :)
23:03 mtj             aarkerio: rangi gives you *very* wise advice :p
23:11 eythian         anyone tried to sign up to translations.k-c.org? I don't seem to be getting an activation email from it.
23:13 rangi           translate.koha-community.org ?
23:13 rangi           i signed up ages ago
23:13 rangi           so havent tried recently
23:13 eythian         err yeah, translate
23:16 rangi           i remember when charlie did
23:16 rangi           it took a while
23:16 eythian         oh, it just came through :)
23:17 rangi           there ya go
23:17 eythian         I'm just impatient :)
23:46 druthb          o/
23:49 Agent_Dani      \o