Time  Nick           Message
00:06 jenkins_koha   Starting build 369 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
00:08 rangi          148 !
00:08 eythian        148?
00:08 ibeardslee     contributors ?
00:08 rangi          yup
00:09 rangi          just pushed the first patch from number 148
00:09 huginn         New commit(s) kohagit: Updating history <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4b0c474eb96fcd67ac73c67c1604dfad619bad9b>
00:09 rangi          ive done 2 sla, and 1 quote this morning, now im procrastinating by pushing code
00:09 eythian        sweet :)
00:10 eythian        oh yeah, need to read that SLA. Lets just submit this kohacon proposal
00:10 eythian        and then do that
00:10 rangi          sweet
00:13 druthb         rangi++
00:16 eythian        kohacon11 talk proposal: submitted!
00:19 huginn         New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6235 : Corrects the behaviour of the humanmsg box on IE8 and IE7. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=661bcfadbdca6d6d6c1cdb8ba9c398e6c0b45b8f>
00:49 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_master build #369: SUCCESS in 43 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/369/
00:49 jenkins_koha   juan.sieira: Bug 6144 - Cant hide constraints when showed at subfield edition
00:49 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6144 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, juan.sieira, ASSIGNED , Cant hide constraints when showed at subfield edition
00:49 jenkins_koha   Starting build 370 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
00:56 rangi          149
01:03 huginn         New commit(s) kohagit: 6290: Fix warning on XSLT.pm <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=04e97b57ff568bc759ca4818cb9cc6e879f5d0d1> / Bug 6280 : Don't generate invalid SQL in GetPendingIssues <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c435c8c7d13110ab72efdf2877d3fc80f5487e72> / Adding the 149th developer to the history <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=df78c5decdb2ead
01:32 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_master build #370: UNSTABLE in 43 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/370/
01:32 jenkins_koha   * Chris Cormack: Updating history
01:32 jenkins_koha   * frederick.capovilla: Bug 6235 : Corrects the behaviour of the humanmsg box on IE8 and IE7.
01:32 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6235 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, fcapovilla, ASSIGNED , "Saved" message in sysprefs never gets hidden on IE8
01:33 jenkins_koha   Starting build 371 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #369 1 h 27 mn ago)
01:49 huginn         New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 6686, Can't delete messages <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=657d074b7c7d45d438ca20879e21a84f704994bc> / bug 6682: split openlibrary in to two words 'open library' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=354b32659a76492af12aab72e88791d00e7103d9> / Fix for Bug 6291, Cart printing truncated in Firefox <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commi
02:05 jenkins_koha   Starting build 29 for job Koha_3.4.x (previous build: FIXED)
02:27 jenkins_koha   Yippie, build fixed!
02:27 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_master build #371: FIXED in 54 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/371/
02:27 jenkins_koha   * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6260 - Missing space in availability information of OPAC XSLT results
02:27 jenkins_koha   * robin: Bug 6275 - allow automated backups for packages
02:27 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6260 trivial, P5, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Missing space in availability information of OPAC XSLT results
02:27 jenkins_koha   * nunyo: Bug 6277 : CustomLog by default
02:27 jenkins_koha   * Chris Cormack: Adding the 149th developer to the history
02:27 jenkins_koha   * colin.campbell: Bug 6280 : Don't generate invalid SQL in GetPendingIssues
02:27 jenkins_koha   * m.de.rooy: 6290: Fix warning on XSLT.pm
02:27 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6275 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, ASSIGNED , Automated backups of data and config
02:27 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6277 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , CustomLog by default
02:27 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6280 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, ASSIGNED , Invalid SQL being passed in circulation checkout
02:27 wizzyrea       BOTFIGHT
02:28 jenkins_koha   Starting build 372 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED)
02:32 libsysguy      is jenkins_koha a bot?
02:33 libsysguy      i was always confused about it
02:33 wizzyrea       yes :)
02:35 libsysguy      we should change his name to Mr. Wizard
02:35 wizzyrea       ha
02:36 libsysguy      i've always wanted to voice commands on my phone to answer to that
02:36 libsysguy      Ex. Mr. Wizard please get me directions to Dallas Tx
02:36 wizzyrea       hehe
02:37 wizzyrea       ifn you had an android phone, it does that
02:37 libsysguy      i do!
02:37 wizzyrea       though you don't have to ask it politely first
02:37 wizzyrea       well there you go
02:37 libsysguy      i didn't know you could set the queue word
02:37 wizzyrea       oh, no, there's no queue word
02:38 libsysguy      oh...well thats disappointing
02:38 wizzyrea       that would be a giant battery sucker if it had to listen for your queue all the time
02:38 wizzyrea       cue
02:38 libsysguy      maybe ill write an app for it
02:38 wizzyrea       there you go
02:38 libsysguy      my thunderbold doesn't know what battery life is anyway
02:38 wizzyrea       my galaxy s does ok if I'm semi rational about what I ask it to do
02:39 libsysguy      haha so no words with friends :p
02:39 libsysguy      well...i also have my overclocked
02:39 wizzyrea       well, notifications in general kind of make my battery go out in a blaze of glory
02:39 libsysguy      so that may also have something to do with it
02:39 wizzyrea       EMAIL EMAIL EMAIL TEXT TEXT TEXT WEATHER WEATHER <dies>
02:41 libsysguy      mine is like (searching for signal) *death*
02:41 * libsysguy    works in the basement with the servers :'(
02:41 wizzyrea       I used to do that
02:41 wizzyrea       there's something soothing about the hum of 50 servers and the constant breath of cool air from the aircon
02:42 libsysguy      indeed...i always enjoyed the dancing of the HDD lights
02:42 * libsysguy    is jealous that you have 50 servers
02:43 libsysguy      i just have a VM cluster of 4 servers :'(
02:43 wizzyrea       http://chakalakasp.imgur.com/sweet_storm_8711
02:43 wizzyrea       do note that's nowhere near where I live
02:43 wizzyrea       that's in nebraska
02:43 libsysguy      i saw that on reddit a couple of days ago
02:43 libsysguy      amazing
02:43 libsysguy      http://www.reddit.com/r/koha/
02:49 bg             hi there
02:49 wahanui        hey, bg
02:50 libsysguy      hey bg
03:21 bg             hey libsysguy
03:21 wahanui        rumour has it libsysguy is curious why it is looking for the biblios table
03:23 libsysguy      wahanui you are a silly bot
03:23 wahanui        ...but wahanui is a bot|a repository of important and useful and accurate information...
03:23 libsysguy      does anybody know if nengard got git-bz working?
03:23 bg             I think she did
03:23 libsysguy      yayy that makes me happy
03:24 libsysguy      because she applies and test patches all the time
03:24 libsysguy      i hope that makes it easier for her
03:27 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_3.4.x build #29: SUCCESS in 1 h 21 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.4.x/29/
03:27 jenkins_koha   * juan.sieira: Bug 6144 - Cant hide constraints when showed at subfield edition
03:27 jenkins_koha   * frederick.capovilla: Bug 6235 : Corrects the behaviour of the humanmsg box on IE8 and IE7.
03:27 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6144 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, juan.sieira, ASSIGNED , Cant hide constraints when showed at subfield edition
03:27 jenkins_koha   * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6260 - Missing space in availability information of OPAC XSLT results
03:27 jenkins_koha   * colin.campbell: Bug 6280 : Don't generate invalid SQL in GetPendingIssues
03:27 jenkins_koha   * m.de.rooy: 6290: Fix warning on XSLT.pm
03:27 jenkins_koha   * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6291, Cart printing truncated in Firefox
03:27 jenkins_koha   * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6686, Can't delete messages
03:27 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6235 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, fcapovilla, ASSIGNED , "Saved" message in sysprefs never gets hidden on IE8
03:27 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6260 trivial, P5, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Missing space in availability information of OPAC XSLT results
03:27 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6280 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, ASSIGNED , Invalid SQL being passed in circulation checkout
03:27 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6291 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Cart printing truncated in Firefox
03:27 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6686 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Can't delete messages
03:27 libsysguy      bot blitz
03:33 Amit_Gupta     hi all
03:33 Amit_Gupta     good morning ;)
03:35 libsysguy      morning Amit_Gupta
03:35 rangi          hi Amit_Gupta
03:35 Amit_Gupta     heya chris
03:41 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_master build #372: SUCCESS in 1 h 13 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/372/
03:41 jenkins_koha   * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6291, Cart printing truncated in Firefox
03:41 jenkins_koha   * nengard: bug 6682: split openlibrary in to two words 'open library'
03:41 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6291 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Cart printing truncated in Firefox
03:41 jenkins_koha   * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6686, Can't delete messages
03:41 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6682 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, ASSIGNED , open library is two words
03:41 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6686 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Can't delete messages
03:52 kmkale         Namaskar #koha
04:06 eythian        kmkale: I hope you received my conference talk abstract :D
04:07 kmkale         yes eythian
04:07 kmkale         Good to see your are coming over
04:07 kmkale         :)
04:07 eythian        we'll it'll probably depend on that being accepted ;)
04:08 eythian        -'
04:08 libsysguy      *hint* *hint* ^^
04:11 kmkale         :)
06:29 marcelr        hello koha
06:32 alex_a         bonjour #koha
06:33 marcelr        hi alex_a
06:33 magnuse        kia ora #koha
06:33 alex_a         hi marcelr
06:33 alex_a         hi magnuse
06:33 marcelr        hi magnuse
06:34 magnuse        bonjour alex_a, marcelr
07:37 paul_p         hello everybody
07:40 kmkale         Namaste paul_p
07:40 kmkale         flight booked?
07:40 paul_p         hello kmkale
07:41 paul_p         nope, not yet, but directions for the visa are OK, we will do everything after my holidays
07:41 paul_p         (2 weeks from tomorrow)
07:41 paul_p         it means i won't be at next IRC meeting (18th)
07:41 kmkale         lucky fellow :)
09:01 cait           hi #koha
09:01 magnuse        guten tag cait
09:01 cait           hi magnuse :)
09:24 slef           hi cait magnuse
09:24 cait           hi slef
09:25 magnuse        kia ora slef
09:27 magnuse        everything ok with you slef - not been looted or rioted?
09:30 slef           no, one of the benefits of being in a holiday resort
09:31 slef           too many people happy to be on holiday, plus a resort economy is hardly worth looting
09:31 magnuse        yay
09:31 slef           only downside is that we don't have many police just now because they're all in neighbouring cities
09:31 magnuse        ah, yes
09:32 magnuse        i saw some huge numbers for london and guessed they couldn't all be london-based
09:32 slef           particularly the driving is getting scary... police rarely enforce traffic laws anyway, but now there's no chance
09:32 magnuse        ouch
09:32 slef           yeah, London has drawn in police from East of England and East Midlands, not here.
09:33 magnuse        ah, ok
09:33 slef           Our police area is a funny one anyway: Avon and Somerset = mostly rural Somerset and a little bit of Gloucestershire, plus the city of Bristol
09:33 slef           so all ours are in Bristol
09:34 magnuse        only friendly people in the countryside anyway, right? ;-)
09:34 slef           yeah. With shotguns.
09:34 slef           People have been contrasting British media reaction to the riots with the Norweigan reaction to that bomber-gunman
09:35 slef           Norway: you nutter, we will continue being democratic (or is that just how ti appeared here?)
09:35 slef           Britain: birch the swines!
09:36 slef           calls for the army to come on the streets, use water cannons and rubber bullets, and so on...
09:36 magnuse        that's apretty good summary of the norwegian reaction, yeah
09:36 slef           Happily there's the #riotcleanup and Operation Tea Cup movements to show that the Murdoch-domainated British media doesn't reflect Britain well.
09:37 slef           sorry, Operation Cup of Tea
09:37 slef           http://www.operationcupoftea.com/
09:37 magnuse        cup of tea party? ;-)
09:38 slef           "Stay In and Drink Tea" spoofing those other posters
09:39 magnuse        "stay in and drink tea"?!? how very british!  ;-)
09:39 magnuse        or stereotypic...
09:39 magnuse        what other posters?
09:40 slef           https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Keep_Calm_and_Carry_On
09:40 rangi          i have that on a badge, in maori
09:41 magnuse        cool, thanks
09:41 rangi          we give it to people during migrations
09:41 slef           http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/05/magazine/05FOB-consumed-t.html has the "Now Panic and Freak Out" variant I like :)
09:41 magnuse        haha! genius!
09:41 rangi          slef: did you watch the cricket?
09:41 slef           rangi: shhhh I've got the highlights on disk
09:42 rangi          ahh ill keep quiet then :)
09:43 slef           nah, I won't watch it until tomorrow, so I'll not avoid it until then
09:43 magnuse        ooh, i like the "get excited and make things" one
09:43 slef           so feel free :)
09:45 magnuse        sometimes i toy with the idea of taking up an interest in cricket - mostly because it would be a completely weird thing to do in norway... ;-)
09:45 rangi          england owned the day
09:46 rangi          and absolute blinder of a catch from cook
09:46 rangi          its well worth watching :)
09:46 slef           Norway's cricket team are ranked 41 in the world.
09:46 magnuse        wow, there is one?
09:47 slef           http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norway_national_cricket_team
09:47 magnuse        41 out of a total of...?
09:47 slef           For comparison, Jersey is ranked 33rd.
09:47 magnuse        heh
09:47 slef           Denmark 25.  Out of 48.
09:47 rangi          norways cricket team = russias rugby team :)
09:48 magnuse        "Although the team is by name Norwegian, the players all currently descend from the countries of the Indian subcontinent, i.e. Pakistan, India or Sri Lanka." that makes sense
09:48 rangi          they were interviewed about what they wanted to achieve in the world cup
09:48 rangi          "Get some points, any points at all"
09:48 magnuse        :-)
09:49 paul_p         lol
09:49 paul_p         good morning magnuse & rangi & slef
09:49 rangi          hiya paul_p
09:49 paul_p         2 of us come to London for the DrupalCon in 2 weeks. Will you be around ?
09:49 rangi          not long now .. who do france play first? japan?
09:49 paul_p         slef, 2 of us come to London for the DrupalCon in 2 weeks. Will you be around ?
09:49 magnuse        kia ora paul_p
09:49 paul_p         rangi, I really have no idea !
09:50 paul_p         rangi, have you seen that a french player has been excluded last week ?
09:50 rangi          japan, then canada, then nz
09:50 slef           paul_p: we're trying to reduce drupal work in favour of perl and python, so probably not. I may pop up to London if you would like to meet otherwise?
09:50 rangi          then tonga
09:51 rangi          paul_p: hmm no i didnt see that
09:51 paul_p         slef, clrh & alex_a come to the DrupalCon. Ask them if they're interested to see you ;-)
09:52 slef           paul_p: I think you just did :)
09:52 slef           biab
09:53 paul_p         rangi, in France, all rugby players have a "suivi longitudinal" (ie: thy must say where they are at *any* time, and can have a control at anytime) to check against doping. It has been rumored that rugby players were not strict enough with saying where they are. A player failed 3 times to be controled (he couldn't be found), so => excluded
09:53 rangi          ahhh
09:53 paul_p         (it's the same for many sports : athletism, football...)
09:54 rangi          yup
09:54 paul_p         all players said "ok, well, we will take care now, seems the anti-doping controls are not just for fun"
09:54 paul_p         in french we would say "ils ont fait un exemple"
09:56 cait           tell people where you are all the time sounds awful
09:56 * magnuse      agrees
09:57 * magnuse      is happy to not be a professional athlete...
09:57 rangi          paul_p: september 30 is France day at Te papa
09:57 magnuse        ooh, te papa...
09:58 paul_p         what will happend this day ?
09:58 rangi          There will be music, dance, talks, films, photographic exhibitions, arts and crafts, workshops, and plenty more to celebrate each country.
09:58 paul_p         cait, I'm not sure it's a "hour by hour" timing. But a "day by day" for sure.
09:59 rangi          they are doing a country each day (part of the world cup)
09:59 slef           suivi longitudinal?  No "passeport biologique" for rugby players yet?
09:59 slef           rangi: will there be rioting on England day?
09:59 magnuse        lol
09:59 cait           lol
10:00 rangi          im planning on eating cucumber sandwiches
10:00 rangi          and being sarcastic :)
10:00 slef           rangi: and "explanation that we are not England" on Wales day?
10:00 rangi          hehe
10:00 rangi          wales, scotland and ireland all do that one :)
10:00 cait           oh rangi
10:00 cait           have you seen my question about release teams?
10:00 slef           cucumber sandwiches.  A good chicken tikka masala would be more representative.
10:00 rangi          isnt that scottish?
10:01 rangi          or is that deep friend chicken tikka masala :)
10:01 slef           Leeds, I think.
10:01 rangi          cait: thats about right
10:01 cait           cool, thx
10:01 cait           now I can send her my comments :)
10:01 slef           and balti is from Birmingham, if you believe the legends
10:01 rangi          i wonder where butter chicken is from
10:02 * rangi        googles
10:02 slef           Butter chicken or Murgh makhani is an Indian dish and popular in countries all over the world. The origins of butter chicken can be traced back to Delhi, during the period of Mughal Empire. According to a documentary by the Discovery Channel, butter chicken recipe was invented by a person working in the kitchen staff of a famous restaurant called Moti Mahal located in... http://a.vu/w:Butter_chicken
10:02 rangi          ahhh yep
10:02 slef           yes, I have wikipedia hooked up to my irc client
10:02 rangi          It should not be confused with Chicken tikka masala, a similarly coloured Indian chicken dish that originated among the South Asian diaspora in the U.K..
10:03 rangi          i suspect kahu (who loves butter chicken) would be a chicken tikka masala fan too
10:03 rangi          ill have to bring him to kohacon12 to find out :)
10:03 slef           Balti is the name for a one-pot Pakistani style of curry that is very popular in Britain. Balti food first appeared in the UK in the late 1960s when immigrants from north Pakistan settled in the Sparkhill area of Birmingham. They had come from from the Potohar area of Pakistan's Kashmir, and specifically the city of Mirpur. http://a.vu/w:Balti_(food)
10:04 rangi          ive only had pakistani food once
10:04 slef           it's often sold as Indian here :-/
10:04 rangi          i had bangladeshi food with richard stallman, jo ransom and brenda chawner
10:05 rangi          that was an interesting meal, the food was delicous, but rms chose it all for us :)
10:05 slef           not surprised :)
10:06 slef           "In an ironic inversion of history, British companies now export chicken tikka masala to Pakistan, India and Bangladesh" cracks me up
10:06 rangi          heh
10:06 rangi          there was an article today
10:07 rangi          about indians getting better marks on english tests
10:07 rangi          its all switched around :)
10:07 cait1          hmpf
10:07 cait1          linux didn't like the docx file with comments it seems
10:07 slef           why did you give a docx file to your kernel?
10:07 * slef         runs
10:08 cait1          it's not my file
10:08 cait1          and I opened it in libreoffice...
10:09 magnuse        ooh, Damian Conway is giving a talk in oslo today
10:09 rangi          oh
10:09 rangi          hes always fun to listen too
10:09 rangi          to
10:09 magnuse        yeah, i would have liked to be there...
10:10 magnuse        it also made me realize there's a Oslo Perl Mongers
10:10 rangi          quite active?
10:11 rangi          seems to be
10:11 rangi          thats good
10:11 rangi          i dont get to the wellington perl mongers as much as i should
10:11 magnuse        hm, not extremely since i can't remember hearing about them in the ~13 years i have known about perl
10:11 magnuse        but maybe that's just me...
10:11 rangi          (specially since the meetings are at catalyst)
10:11 magnuse        hehe
10:12 rangi          http://wellington.pm.org/archive/index.html
10:12 rangi          lots of good talks
10:13 cait1          no perl nongers around here :(
10:14 magnuse        looks like Z�rich would be closest?
10:14 cait1          hm yes, was checking it right now
10:15 magnuse        there's a map here: http://www.pm.org/
10:15 cait1          but still over an hour by train
10:15 magnuse        that's nothing! ;-)
10:16 cait1          they don't meet
10:16 slef           there's one in Bristol, been ones, but don't see why I'd want to go to the pub with perl programmers?
10:16 slef           been once, even
10:16 cait1          why not? :)
10:16 slef           better pubs closer than that :)
10:18 slef           also, I don't know if you've noticed, I don't get on brilliantly with proprietary software developers who work for privately-owned companies. ;-)
10:18 rangi          hehe
10:19 cait1          lol
10:19 cait1          glad I am not one of those
10:19 cait1          ;)
10:21 cait1          ok, back to boolean algebra
10:33 clrh           Hi slef we could see us at London - I don't know yet our calendars but I'll ping you on irc
10:41 cait1          @wunder Konstanz
10:41 huginn         cait1: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 19.3�C (12:34 PM CEST on August 11, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1018.8 hPa (Falling).
10:41 magnuse        @wunder boo
10:41 huginn         magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 9.0�C (12:20 PM CEST on August 11, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady).
10:42 rangi          @wunder wellington nz
10:42 huginn         rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 10.0�C (10:00 PM NZST on August 11, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Falling).
10:42 rangi          still beating norway :)
10:43 cait1          :)
10:45 magnuse        rangi: you win! (and it's your winter...)
10:45 cait1          hehe
10:46 cait1          it was very cold here for summer the last few days
10:46 cait1          even I am happy about no rain and a little more sun today
10:47 kmkale         @weather Mumbai
10:47 huginn         kmkale: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 29.0�C (3:40 PM IST on August 11, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 26.0�C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Steady).
10:47 kmkale         beat that :)
10:47 cait1          hi kmkale
10:48 kmkale         hi cait1
10:48 kmkale         cait1: why the 1?
10:48 kmkale         :)
10:48 cait           had to restart
10:48 kmkale         :))
10:48 cait3          yay!
10:48 kmkale         hi cait2 and cait3
10:48 kmkale         :)
10:48 cait3          hi kmkale
10:49 cait           hey!
10:49 cait           stealing my identity!
10:49 cait3          moahaha
10:49 kmkale         clone wars close at hand
10:49 magnuse        hehe
10:49 cait           lol
10:49 * cait         nick rangi1
10:49 kmkale         :)
10:49 rangi1         hmmm
10:50 cait2          hehe
10:50 rangi1         no, I don't know more about perl now...
10:50 cait2          push some patches
10:50 rangi1         doesn't work
10:50 cait2          tell me about boolean logic
10:50 cait2          heres a cookie
10:50 cait2          guten nacht
10:50 kmkale         this can get confusing very fast
10:50 rangi1         rofl
10:51 cait           hm, I don't tell you to push patches
10:51 rangi          hehe i know :)
10:51 cait           the rest... too true
10:52 cait           :)
10:52 cait           hi druthb
10:52 druthb         Hi.
10:52 rangi          hiya druthb
10:52 druthb         :)
10:52 cait           how are you today?
10:53 druthb         Doing good.  Little bit of a late start for me, but it's okay
10:59 magnuse        o/
10:59 magnuse        hm, this feels like friday
11:00 cait           hehe
11:00 druthb         Hi magnuse!
11:01 magnuse        hiya druthb
11:01 rangi          it is friday in 1 hour
11:01 magnuse        rangi: true dat!
11:01 cait           yay friday!
11:02 slef           bleah timezones
11:03 kmkale         hey druthb how are you?
11:04 * druthb       will spend her day munching data from two about-to-be-ex-Symphony sites.  Nom nom nom...
11:04 cait           hehe
11:04 druthb         Doing well, kmkale.    You?
11:04 kmkale         not so well but I will bounce back :)
11:05 * druthb       offers hugs.
11:05 kmkale         :)
11:05 magnuse        happy minching, druthb!
11:06 magnuse        s/minching/munching/
11:07 druthb         Two fewer SirsiDynix sites in the world is a good thing.
11:07 magnuse        yay!
11:08 magnuse        and so is two more koha sites
11:09 druthb         Yes!
11:11 cait           :)
11:12 magnuse        bonjour matts
11:12 matts          hello magnuse !
11:12 druthb         We've done several of those this year.  As an ex unicorn admin, it's a nice feeling
11:12 magnuse        :-)
11:27 * druthb       returns. :)
11:56 * kmkale       wonders what time it is in nz
11:57 kmkale         23:56 humm pretty late :(
12:16 slef           heh nengard making undocumented change to the wiki git bz page
12:16 slef           ;)
12:16 nengard        ??
12:16 slef           was no comment in the description box
12:17 slef           http://wiki.koha-community.org/w/index.php?title=Git_bz_configuration&action=history
12:18 slef           I mean, I'm used to it because most people don't describe their patches, but was surprised you didn't either.
12:20 nengard        okay now you're being nit picky!
12:20 nengard        I don't put comments on the wiki very often at all
12:20 nengard        it's not the same as a patch
12:32 kmkale         anyone noticed that the koha_perl_deps.pl script tells you to install CGI::Session::Driver::memc but the actual cpan module name is CGI::Session::Driver::memcached
12:41 cait           kvd--
12:42 magnus_lunch   kvd?
12:44 nengard        oh good i'm not alone
12:44 nengard        what is kvd?
12:45 libsysguy      Morning #Koha
12:46 magnus_lunch   hiya libsysguy
12:46 libsysguy      I have an error in my search magnus_lunch :'(
12:46 libsysguy      i just did an import and re-indexed
12:46 magnuse        ouch?
12:46 libsysguy      and i get this Can't call method "raw" on an undefined value at /home/koha/kohaclone/C4/Search.pm line 458.
12:47 magnuse        hm, raw? not sure i've seen that one before...
12:47 libsysguy      yeah me either
12:47 magnuse        cait: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ganja_International_Airport ?
12:48 cait           karnaugh veitch diagramm I think karnaugh veitch map in english
12:49 * magnuse      never heard of that either
12:49 libsysguy      the weird thing is i can do a search from adv-search
12:49 * magnuse      was going to suggest one of the following: Kernel Visual Distinguishability (Canadian quality control system for wheat), Kundendienst Verband Deutschland (German: Customer Service Association), Kraftfahrer Vom Dienst (German: Driver of the Watch), Key Value Driver, Kitchen Video Display
12:50 magnuse        libsysguy: do you get the error for all searches, or just some?
12:50 libsysguy      well if i search for a type Ex. Book
12:50 libsysguy      then i get results
12:51 libsysguy      but if i do a keyword search i get the error
12:51 libsysguy      i wonder if my rebuild died in the middle of the night
12:55 kmkale         humm I just upgraded from 3.2 to 3.4.3 ( koha-latest.tar.gz) and after upgrade the koha version shown in about koha is 3.04.02.000 ???
13:08 kmkale         bye all.
13:20 libsysguy      hey sekjal
13:21 sekjal         morning, libsysguy
13:21 libsysguy      I did a truncate, re-import, and re-index last night and when i do a search in the opac i get this error: Can't call method "raw" on an undefined value at /home/koha/kohaclone/C4/Search.pm line 458.
13:23 druthb         sounds like maybe the reindex didn't work right?
13:23 libsysguy      yeah that is what i was thinking too
13:23 libsysguy      i am re-running it again
13:25 sekjal         hmmm... that seems familiar... zebra is definitely pointing at something that doesn't exist
13:25 sekjal         when you reindexed, did you use the -r option?
13:25 libsysguy      yes
13:25 libsysguy      but my computer restarted at some point during the night
13:25 sekjal         is zebra running?
13:25 libsysguy      so im thinking that it probably killed my connections and just didn't finish
13:26 sekjal         could well be
13:26 libsysguy      and yes zebra is running
13:26 sekjal         full reindex would be the first attempt at a remedy
13:26 libsysguy      it made me think it couldn't finish because i can search for a type
13:26 libsysguy      alright well that is running now and should be done around lunch :-\
13:27 tcohen         hi #koha
13:29 oleonard       So no sign of pianohacker in months and then bam, MARC text edtior.
13:29 nengard        i know!
13:29 nengard        how cool is that?  hehe
13:29 nengard        I want to test it but don't think I can until this weekend
13:30 oleonard       Looks cool, but I got errors when I tried making a simple edit and saving.
13:30 nengard        oh poo :(
13:30 oleonard       Anyone here know anything about pianohacker's work on that?
13:31 nengard        it sounds like something that jcamins was working on ... if i'm reading that right
13:31 nengard        but it might not be related
13:31 sekjal         oleonard:  he has a version of it running live on an older codebase that his previous library is running in production
13:35 oleonard       I wondered because I saw a "Copyright 2008 LibLime" and wondered if that was a copy-paste remnant or a real thing.
13:36 sekjal         I assume copy/paste, but I'll ask
13:42 kmkale         hi need a bit of help
13:43 kmkale         when running misc/maintenance/remove_items_from_biblioitems.pl --run after a upgrade the script keeps giving me "DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Lock wait timeout exceeded; try restarting transaction at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Biblio.pm line 2633" Any ideas what could be wrong?
13:47 jcamins_away   nengard, I haven't looked at pianohacker's code in ages. I just want it.
13:47 nengard        :)
13:48 oleonard       I wondered if you had anything to do with him releasing it jcamins_away, you mentioned the idea just the other day
13:48 nengard        yeah i wasn't sure - it sounded like something I had talked to you about at one time
13:49 jcamins_away   Ah.
13:49 * jcamins_away might be guilty
13:49 druthb         hi, jcamins_away!
13:49 Agent_Dani     Morning
13:49 nengard        this is a good kind of guilty
13:50 oleonard       It's like that time someone tricked rangi into writing an ILS from scratch
13:50 druthb         hi, Agent_Dani!
13:50 nengard        LOL
13:50 nengard        okay need to log off and do some video recording
13:50 nengard        be back
13:50 jcamins_away   Yay! We're taxiing in! Time to get off this uncomfortable plane and see Chicago.
13:51 jcamins_away   Bye.
13:51 Agent_Dani     bye jcamins_away
13:51 * Agent_Dani   is at her day-job so has nothing interesting to do. ;)
14:05 slef           kmkale: not seen that yet.  Hope I don't.
14:07 kmkale         scary stuff. I am not getting any search results now :(
14:08 slef           kmkale: yeah, I was going to ask: did you put the OPAC into maintenance mode and switch off the zebraidx cronjob
14:08 slef           ?
14:09 kmkale         no.
14:09 kmkale         should I have?
14:09 kmkale         the INSTALL file has no mention of this
14:09 kmkale         never did that in any previous upgrades
14:10 slef           actually I think upgrades put the OPAC into maintenance mode automatically, don't they?
14:10 kmkale         dont know :(
14:10 slef           I temporarily disable the cronjob. Surprised that's not in the docs.
14:10 slef           Anyway, I'd try disabling the cronjob, rerun the command and then do a full reindex
14:11 kmkale         yeah but for now checking the db against the backup
14:12 slef           I think it means many things were trying to modify the same bit of the db and things didn't complete fast enough to allow the command to work.
14:12 slef           Hope your DB is OK.
14:22 kmkale         DB seems ok
14:22 kmkale         in fact I cant spot the columns that were removed
14:22 kmkale         which columns does it remove?
14:22 wizzyrea       it takes a very long time
14:23 cait           it's not removing any columns - only informatoin from the marcxml field
14:23 kmkale         aahh. ok let me check on that
14:24 cait           the 952 fields
14:26 kmkale         ok it has removed the 952 fields from marcxml
14:27 kmkale         and the rebuild zebra with -b -r also ran ok
14:27 kmkale         rep[orting correct records
14:27 kmkale         so wonder whats causing the " search.pl: Use of uninitialized value $key in hash element at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Templates.pm line 227" errors when searching?
14:28 cait           hm
14:29 cait           perhaps it's not a search but a template problem?
14:29 cait           are you using the english templates?
14:29 cait           does it happen in opac and staff?
14:29 wizzyrea       oh, did you install template toolkit?
14:29 wizzyrea       template toolkit?
14:29 wahanui        template toolkit is apt-get install libtemplate-perl or http://tt2.org/
14:29 kmkale         both
14:29 kmkale         yes english
14:29 kmkale         yep
14:30 tcohen         slef: i'll be around for a while if you want to talk aboout memcached stuff
14:30 cait           because it showas a template.pm problem
14:30 cait           I think it's perhaps not a problem with zebra
14:32 kmkale         zebra did not report any errors
14:32 kmkale         ran it twice
14:33 cait           you are running 3.4.3?
14:34 kmkale         yes but its reporting as 3.4.2
14:35 kmkale         in about koha page
14:35 cait           ok
14:35 cait           wild guess
14:35 cait           it's language related
14:35 cait           have you activated other languages in this install?
14:35 kmkale         no
14:35 cait           no installed templates?
14:35 kmkale         should I try one of the other en_gb or en_nz languages?
14:36 cait           hm no
14:36 cait           I was thinking it was perhaps trying to access the wrong templates
14:36 cait           and when you have not updated those to template toolkit it would cause an error
14:38 cait           hm
14:38 cait           have you activated group results?
14:38 nengard        Just finished 3 more tutorial videos  -anyone have ideas they'd like to see done?
14:38 cait           the pazpar2 thing?
14:38 cait           nengard: it's so hard to suggest something you haven't done already!
14:39 nengard        i know
14:39 nengard        but i need a video a week :)
14:39 kmkale         group results?
14:39 cait           hehe
14:39 nengard        so no idea is too small
14:39 nengard        group results?
14:39 kmkale         nengard: that wqas foor cait
14:39 kmkale         nengard: that was for cait
14:39 cait           OpacGroupResults
14:39 kmkale         aahh
14:40 cait           nengard: perhaps something about fine limits? what possibilites there are to block/restrict patrons?
14:40 kmkale         cait: nope
14:40 cait           out of ideas kmkale :(
14:40 nengard        hmm
14:40 kmkale         cait: thanks for trying
14:40 nengard        okay let me see
14:41 cait           or last quesiton to make sure it's not language related: do you have other templates generated? more then the en folder in the template directories?
14:41 wizzyrea       nengard: do some on the OPAC
14:41 cait           oh
14:41 wizzyrea       How do patrons place holds
14:41 wizzyrea       how do patrons renew items
14:41 cait           the new open library thing.. but that's 3.6 :(
14:41 nengard        I don't mind 3.6 videos
14:41 wizzyrea       checking your reading history
14:41 nengard        and okay wizzyrea
14:41 wahanui        well, wizzyrea is amazing!
14:41 nengard        thanks!
14:41 nengard        adding them all to the list
14:42 wizzyrea       update your personal information with the library
14:42 jcamins_away   What kind of fancy hotel doesn't have a shuttle?
14:42 nengard        cait i want to see the open library images made bigger before i promote them though
14:42 kmkale         cait: yay there are many
14:42 kmkale         cait: this is a fresh upgrade from 3.2 to 3.4.2
14:42 cait           hm
14:42 cait           production install?
14:42 kmkale         yep
14:42 cait           you could try regenerating them
14:42 kmkale         cait: how?
14:42 oleonard       jcamins_away: Where are you headed?
14:43 cait           go to misc/translator
14:43 cait           and run perl translate install
14:43 cait           normally I do perl translate install <langcode>
14:43 cait           I think there is an option now to do them all
14:43 cait           or you could delete all unused languages
14:43 kmkale         cait: ok let me try that
14:43 jcamins_away   Palmer House Hilton in Chicago for a conference.
14:43 cait           old books? :)
14:44 jcamins_away   Nope. Theatre.
14:44 cait           theatre? :)
14:44 oleonard       jcamins_away: Right downtown. Should be easy to get to.
14:44 jcamins_away   It's Shari's conference.
14:45 cait           ah :)
14:45 * oleonard     went to school two blocks from there
14:45 jcamins_away   oleonard: yeah, but it's the principle of the thing.
15:08 kmkale         good night all
15:08 * wizzyrea     wonders if he figured it out
15:09 cait           he did
15:09 wizzyrea       yay
15:09 wizzyrea       !
15:09 cait           zebra problem
15:09 wizzyrea       phew
15:10 cait           hah, just discovered how to skip git format-patch
15:10 cait           git send-email --format-patch origin
15:15 nengard        oh boy!
15:15 nengard        all these git tips are going to save me so much time
15:16 wizzyrea       i have a tendency to get my git wrong, thus I don't feel safe skipping format-patch without checking it :(
15:16 oleonard       Yeah, I like being able to see whether I forgot to squash something and am getting two patches
15:18 cait           I check the git diff before I commit mostly
15:18 cait           or the git log
15:19 cait           and this was for a sign-off :)
15:19 cait           and for a sign-off it's great :)
15:20 oleonard       Don't you have to add -s to format-patches for signoffs? Can you include that in your command?
15:20 * cait         is happy because she got her vaccuum cleaner back
15:20 cait           had to send it in because it was broken
15:20 cait           oleonard: you can add -s to almost all steps
15:21 sekjal         cait:  nice! (on send-email and format-patch at once)
15:21 cait           oleonard: I do git commit -s --amend to change the subject and add the sign-off
15:21 oleonard       Oh, I didn't know that one
15:21 cait           and add notes or such thing
15:22 cait           i think git send-email format-patch -s origin could work too, have not checked
15:22 libsysguy      is there a way to put the opac in maintenance mode?
15:22 cait           yes
15:22 cait           it's a syspref switch
15:22 cait           search for maint
15:23 libsysguy      ok cool
15:23 libsysguy      except i can't search for it because zebra is doing a total reindex...bleh
15:23 cait           hm
15:23 wizzyrea       uh
15:23 libsysguy      well...i mean its laggy
15:23 cait           I think the syspref search is not using zebra
15:23 wizzyrea       ^^
15:23 wizzyrea       it's under "OPAC"
15:23 wizzyrea       if that helps
15:23 libsysguy      hehe
15:24 libsysguy      thanks wizzyrea and cait :)
15:24 wizzyrea       yay exp!
15:24 cait           wizzyrea: you were faster than me! hehe
15:25 wizzyrea       you guys are kicking my butt.
15:25 wizzyrea       still 4th tho :P
15:25 wizzyrea       and I"ve got a chocolate fish! neener neener
15:25 wizzyrea       god help us if oleonard really gets into chorewars
15:26 * oleonard     has started to but forgets to claim stuff
15:26 libsysguy      is anybody here from around london?
15:26 cait           hehe
15:26 * cait         claims half of the xp :P
15:26 wizzyrea       seriously?
15:26 oleonard       slef is the closest, in that he's in the same country libsysguy
15:26 wizzyrea       why?!
15:27 wizzyrea       claim it all, girl
15:27 oleonard       If you both claim it do you get to fight?
15:27 cait           nah
15:27 cait           half for you  :)
15:27 * wizzyrea     mutters.
15:27 wizzyrea       in a real MMO, you either get it all or none, none of this half nonsense
15:27 cait           oleonard: nope
15:27 cait           no fighting with wizzyrea :)
15:28 * wizzyrea     won't fight either
15:28 * oleonard     puts down the box of popcorn for later
15:28 cait           hm I think that depends on the rules of the rpg you play
15:28 wizzyrea       but I won't have you taking half xp, that's just silliness
15:28 cait           :P
15:28 wizzyrea       unless it was a half-a** job
15:28 wizzyrea       :P
15:28 wizzyrea       which yours never are
15:28 cait           hmpf
15:29 cait           I wanted tospend all day on koha... now it's only a few hours in the afternoon
15:29 libsysguy      hah oleonard, I was just wondering how bad the riots were today
15:30 wizzyrea       http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Makeuseof/~3/nnbTgYRg6q4/
15:30 wizzyrea       had you guys seen some of these tools?
15:31 libsysguy      its down for me
15:31 wizzyrea       stupid makeuseof
15:31 wizzyrea       I got it through RSS. hrmph.
15:31 wizzyrea       it's down for me too
15:31 wizzyrea       dangit
15:31 libsysguy      grr
15:32 cait           hm
15:32 cait           I can access it?
15:32 wizzyrea       maybe it's back
15:33 cait           and don't know the tools
15:33 wizzyrea       i got 504
15:33 libsysguy      i got a 502
15:33 libsysguy      mixed bag of errors today eh
15:34 oleonard       Let's keep refreshing again and again and see if that helps!
15:34 wizzyrea       woohoo!
15:34 wizzyrea       let's really kill it!
15:34 oleonard       Working for me now. My plan worked!
15:34 wizzyrea       ohh kay
15:34 wizzyrea       my mac is overall rebelling
15:34 wizzyrea       brb
15:37 cait           502 now
15:37 wizzyrea       lol
15:43 sekjal         cait++ (for bug 2629)
15:43 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2629 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Diacritics not being ignored when searching
15:43 cait           you are welcome :)
15:51 druthb_away    cait++
15:51 cait           hmpf
15:51 druthb         hmpf!
15:51 cait           you like doing that too much
15:51 cait           druthb++ hah!
15:51 cait           :)
15:51 slef           oleonard: my colleague BR is in London but hasn't been in #koha for a loooong time.
15:51 druthb         :P
15:51 * druthb       din' do nuffin!
15:51 cait           I am on to you
15:51 slef           libsysguy: no riots yet today. Too many MPs.
15:52 druthb         @karma druthb
15:52 huginn         druthb: Karma for "druthb" has been increased 116 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 115.
15:52 cait           :)
15:52 wizzyrea       is there much concern about the limiting of social networks?
15:52 cait           @karma cait
15:52 huginn         cait: Karma for "cait" has been increased 150 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 150.
15:52 druthb         muhar
15:52 cait           ooo
15:52 * wizzyrea     is curious
15:53 cait           wizzyrea: can you rephrase your question? what kind of limiting?
15:53 druthb         @most increased
15:53 huginn         druthb: "rangi": 392, "oleonard": 311, "gmcharlt": 266, "wizzyrea": 214, "chris_n": 203, "nengard": 185, "cait": 150, "sekjal": 136, "druthb": 116, "paul_p": 111, "slef": 95, "jcamins": 93, "kf": 68, "magnuse": 64, "hdl_laptop": 60, "hdl": 56, "jwagner": 53, "atz": 44, "biblibre": 42, "thd": 42, "pianohacker": 39, "larsw": 37, "eythian": 33, "fredericd": 32, and "Colin": 27
15:53 wizzyrea       I heard a report that the UK govt was considering limiting and/or more strictly policing social networks to prevent the riots
15:53 wizzyrea       NPR I think
15:53 cait           oh
15:53 cait           haven't heard that yet
15:54 cait           will watch the evening news later
15:54 oleonard       How very Mubarak of them.
15:54 wizzyrea       ^^
15:54 wizzyrea       it's not something I would necessarily have expected.
16:01 slef           wizzyrea: yeah, it kept getting mentioned in MP speeches. It's been pointed out that police and clean-up groups used social netowrks too.
16:02 wizzyrea       slef, do you think (or can you say) that limiting social networks will help or hurt the situation?
16:02 slef           wizzyrea: Teresa May has said she's going to meet with police and social network companies. No suggestion of meeting with users though :-/
16:02 slef           wizzyrea: I think that the rioters will treat it as damage and route around it.
16:02 slef           utter waste of time; only hurts our friends
16:03 wizzyrea       that seems to be the overall trend
16:03 fcapo          Hello, I have a question : How can I translate the descriptions in the marc21_field_008.xml file?
16:03 fcapo          I put the descriptions in the .po file, but the strings don't get translated after a "./translate install"
16:04 slef           I'll have to leave that to a translator.
16:09 cait           fcapo: don't manually change the po files
16:09 cait           fcapo: and there is currently no way to translate those
16:09 fcapo          ok :/
16:09 cait           the translation scripts need to be improved to parse the xml fields into the po files
16:09 cait           you could directly translate the file
16:10 cait           and you could open a bug or check if there is already one and give it a little nudge :)
16:10 fcapo          I guess that's what I'll have to do. I just won't be able to share my translations with the community :S
16:11 cait           hm
16:11 cait           you could add the file to the bug
16:11 fcapo          And when you say "don't manually change the po files", what is the correct way to do the translation then?
16:11 cait           perl translate update <languagecode>
16:11 cait           will write new strings found by the parser into the po files
16:12 cait           ah
16:12 cait           and I meant no adding of strings
16:12 cait           translating is ok of course :)
16:12 fcapo          ok :)
16:13 fcapo          Thanks for the help, I'll see what I can do with that xml file.
16:14 slef           Could it be called marc21_field_008_de.xml instead?
16:14 slef           although I guess we may have to reconsider mandatory/optional handling :-/
16:15 fcapo          Don't think so, marc21_field_008.pl searches for the marc21_field_008.xml file in the directory for the current language.
16:15 slef           fcapo: looking
16:15 fcapo          The problem is that my translated xml file might get overwritten when I run "translate install"
16:17 cait           fcapo: yes, it probably will
16:17 cait           i think the idea is good - using xml for that
16:17 cait           but the translator can't deal with it right now
16:18 slef           so translate install needs upgrading :-/
16:18 cait           yep
16:18 slef           got bug?
16:18 cait           not sure
16:19 cait           I think there is a note on the bug that introduced the rewritten plugin
16:20 fcapo          In Bug 3013 isn't it?
16:20 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3013 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, salva, RESOLVED FIXED, Value builder for 006 and 008 need choices for all format types
16:20 cait           bug 3013
16:20 cait           ah, forgot to scroll down :)
16:20 cait           the translation problem got missed it seems
16:20 fcapo          "They are stored in xml files to allow easy processing through Javascript and
16:20 cait           i think it perhaps was discussed on irc later
16:20 fcapo          AJAX. Also to allow easy translation when needed."
16:21 cait           in theory..
16:21 cait           fcapo: can you add a new bug with a see also to 3013 perhaps?
16:22 fcapo          I'll do it after lunch. :P
16:23 cait           thx :)
16:23 cait           fcapo++
16:24 fcapo          cait++
16:50 fcapo          Bug 6709 added
16:50 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6709 normal, P5, ---, chris, NEW , marc21_field_006.xml and marc21_field_008.xml can't be translated.
16:50 libsysguy      so zebra finished the merge but when it went to commit it failed
16:50 libsysguy      does that mean i have to reindex the whole thing again or can i just add more space and commit?
16:50 cait           :)
16:51 cait           libsysguy: no idea
16:52 libsysguy      does this mean i am out of hdd space? 11:44:42-11/08 zebraidx(10278) [fatal] Write failed for file isambD part 0 [No space left on device]
16:53 druthb         disk is full
16:53 libsysguy      hmm
16:57 rhcl           libsysguy:  what does isam have to do with it? Koha surely doesn't use isam, does it? Do zebra use it somehow?
16:58 rhcl           does
16:59 jcamins_away   You're thinking if MyISAM. This is Zebra.
16:59 paul_p         pfff.... I made more than 30 hours of QA and the pile is still 60 bugs to QA :(((( (against 95 when I started). Many have been added to the pile...
17:00 cait           it's still 30 bugs less
17:00 cait           good trend
17:00 cait           sorry to add to your pile ;)
17:09 rhcl           I was thinking Indexed Sequential Access Method (ISAM) "file" database. That is what libsysguy was experiencing a problem with, si or no?
17:19 cait           @wunder Konstanz
17:19 huginn         cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 23.0�C (7:00 PM CEST on August 11, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 39%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 29.97 in 1015 hPa (Falling).
17:22 jcamins_away   rhcl: I guess that might be what it stands for in Zebra.
17:23 jcamins_away   I actually always thought it was "ISA" and the 'm' was part of some other acronym.
17:23 jcamins_away   Don't know what ISA means either, of course.
17:23 cait           ?
17:24 jcamins_away   cait: the isamb, etc., files that Zebra uses.
17:24 cait           oh
17:25 cait           k
17:25 cait           fcapo: still around?
17:26 fcapo          yes
17:27 cait           ah
17:27 cait           wanted to test your bug for serials and notices it's for 3.2.x
17:28 cait           as this is no longer maintained and the problem also exists in master - could you perhaps make a patch for tt?
17:30 fcapo          My team is slowly switching to 3.4.x (client doesn't want to switch yet :/), so I can't create a 3.4.x version yet.
17:32 cait           ok
17:32 cait           I can try to adapt your patch or perhaps rangi can reformat it
17:32 cait           I don't want to steal your credit for it
17:33 fcapo          No problems, it might take a while before we completely switch to 3.4.x, so you're free to adapt it.
17:34 cait           I will do a lot of testing on 3.4.x - we want to switch to it for production too
17:34 cait           I think at the moment I see some blockers for us
17:34 cait           when I look at the patches that are already in for 3.4.4 - so I can understand your client wants to wait :)
17:35 cait           but koha is improving all the time :)
17:38 Brooke         kia ora
17:39 druthb         hi, Brooke!
17:39 Brooke         0/
17:40 cait           hi Brooke :)
17:40 Brooke         :)
18:32 * Brooke       velcroes melia to wahanui
18:33 wizzyrea       lol.
18:33 wizzyrea       wahanui sometimes has his own issues staying put.
18:33 wahanui        wizzyrea: sorry...
18:33 melia          heh
18:33 * wizzyrea     waves at melia
18:36 * slef         glowers at ERC
18:36 * slef         goes to get food
18:36 wizzyrea       food will help
18:37 Brooke         really? Food helps emacs?
18:37 Brooke         the things they don't teach at uni...
18:37 * Brooke       ducks the rotten tomatoe...
18:37 cait           oleonard++
18:38 cait           fixing my bugs so fast and nice!
18:39 oleonard       It helps to catch me on a day when I'm procrastinating doing something less fun than Koha
18:39 cait           hm
18:40 cait           is there something tha tis more fun than koha?
18:40 oleonard       No, that's my problem.
18:40 wizzyrea       i love you guys.
18:40 wizzyrea       cait++
18:40 wizzyrea       oleonard++
18:40 wizzyrea       that exchange cracked me up
18:41 cait           we love you too wizzyrea :) wizzyrea++
18:41 Brooke         I <3 you too, but no one <3s me back :P
18:41 * druthb       <3s Brooke.
18:41 cait           don't be silly
18:41 wizzyrea       pff
18:41 wizzyrea       I <3 brooke, brooke++
18:41 * Brooke       hands wizzy a cookie for using her line.
18:41 cait           Brooke++
18:41 wizzyrea       oo, yum
18:41 druthb         Brooke++
18:41 Brooke         ewww moderation
18:45 oleonard       Who's urging moderation?
18:48 cait           oleonard: are you procrastinating today?
18:48 cait           bug 6711
18:48 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6711 minor, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW , 'No more renewals' message has empty pull down
18:48 cait           another nice find
18:48 oleonard       cait: No, but I'm rewarding myself for working hard on less fun things until now
18:48 cait           good plan!
18:48 wizzyrea       oh henry acevedo
18:49 wizzyrea       you're our favorite A patron
18:49 cait           he is my favourite, nto sure why
18:49 cait           lol
18:49 cait           yes, perhaps because he is at the beginning of the alphabet
18:52 * cait         hums happily
18:52 * wizzyrea     too
18:52 cait           how better spend an evening than squashing bugs? :)
18:52 cait           it almost feels like friday
18:52 wizzyrea       http://grooveshark.com/#/s/Cloud/3CW2LO?src=5
18:52 wizzyrea       *nod*
18:52 wizzyrea       soon enough it will be
18:52 cait           oh I love that song
18:53 wizzyrea       me too
18:53 wizzyrea       well, obviously :P
18:53 cait           hehe
18:53 rangi          already is, slowpokes
18:53 wizzyrea       oh good it's rangi checking in from the future ;)
18:54 Brooke         wahanui friday?
18:54 wahanui        friday is It's Friday, Friday Gotta get down on Friday
18:54 wizzyrea       ^^ awesome
18:54 rangi          turn left at the roundabound
18:54 wizzyrea       check.
18:55 wizzyrea       i actually have some roundabouts to navigate today. I wonder which one.
18:55 rangi          the one on page 5
18:55 Brooke         as long as it's not the x in Springfield, ye're grand.
18:55 rangi          but i dont have a page 7
18:56 cait           ?
18:56 Brooke         there is no rule 7
18:56 * cait         nibbles on a cookie - confusion medicine
18:57 rangi          http://soundcloud.com/oopartmusic/chad-vader
18:57 wizzyrea       ^^ you will like that song
18:57 rangi          http://grooveshark.com/#/s/Oh+My/2Ovx3A?src=5  <-- nzer
18:57 * Brooke       brandishes a light sabre.
18:58 Brooke         where do you connect the body wire on the light sabre, anyhow?
18:59 cait           weird!
18:59 Brooke         she sounds like a weird Macy Gray / Gwen Stefani blend.
18:59 cait           my item types don#t show up
19:00 cait           ok
19:00 cait           I see why
19:01 Brooke         nice, an olde timey clap bridge
19:02 rangi          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7ZwViizRwU
19:02 rangi          for another one, who has a voice you dont expect
19:02 oleonard       Oh man, cait--check this out. Bug 6711 is another bug with the memberofinstitution setting!
19:02 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6711 minor, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW , 'No more renewals' message has empty pull down
19:02 cait           ah
19:02 oleonard       Turn it off and it goes away.
19:02 cait           wow
19:03 cait           seems this thing sticks to me
19:03 oleonard       You're just the first person ever to turn that setting on ;)
19:03 cait           ah
19:03 cait           I am sure that's not true
19:03 cait           hm
19:03 cait           perhaps it is true
19:04 wizzyrea       i think she's going through the seven stages
19:04 cait           nobody else linking professionals to organisations?
19:04 cait           lol
19:04 cait           first: denyß
19:04 cait           ?
19:04 wizzyrea       denial, pain/guilt, anger, depression, the upward turn, reconstruction, hope
19:05 cait           hm
19:05 cait           i think I will go to hope directly
19:05 wizzyrea       hehe
19:05 cait           hoping that oleonard is going to fix it up :)
19:05 cait           or that rangi gets to resurrect the underlying feature
19:05 oleonard       Hopefully we won't pursue both options simultaneously.
19:05 cait           does linking orgs to profs work without the setting turned on?
19:06 cait           true
19:06 rangi          i wont get a chance til after 3.6
19:06 oleonard       Better to remove its traces and start from scratch?
19:07 cait           or onyl get it out of the templates for now
19:12 rangi          out of the templates for now
19:12 cait           ok
19:13 cait           we could comment the code out - would make it even easier to get it back in
19:13 rangi          git makes it easy to get it back
19:14 cait           ugh
19:14 cait           ah not about git
19:15 cait           my test here
19:16 cait           ok
19:17 cait           I have a patron, 2 overdue books checked out
19:17 cait           I generate notices
19:17 cait           and... it sends out 2 notices - one for each book and checkout date
19:17 cait           and I am confused
19:19 Brooke         right, it's wow time!
19:19 cait           oh
19:19 cait           I know why
19:19 nengard        hello all - got an easy question (for someone who's good at math) - i need a report that shows the percentage of the collection that is checked out
19:19 cait           my mistake
19:20 rangi          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ofj3dCKyI38&feature=related  <-- cos its friday, and 28 days until the world cup starts
19:20 druthb         count(*) from issues divided by count(*) from items, multiplied by 100.
19:24 sekjal         select ((select count(*) from issues) / (select count(*) from items) * 100)
19:24 druthb         sekjal++
19:24 sekjal         may not be optimal
19:24 sekjal         but it works
19:26 nengard        sekjal++
19:27 rangi          hmm
19:27 bg             rangi?
19:27 wahanui        I LIKE ALMONDS! HAVE SOME NUTS!
19:27 druthb         bg?
19:27 wahanui        I LIKE BREAKFAST BURRITOS AND I LOVE BASEBALL
19:27 cait           hehe
19:27 druthb         cait?
19:27 wahanui        somebody said cait was kf or a programmer or really sweet or a source of great chocolate or the purveyor of an infinite supply of virtual cookies or not sure we need the page(s)... but that might just be me
19:27 cait           now it's rally fridy
19:28 bg             rallying in fast cars is fun
19:28 rangi          time to catch my bus, be back in a bit
19:28 druthb         druthb?
19:28 wahanui        well, druthb is currently convincing the amish that they need to web 2.0 or quite brilliant
19:28 druthb         wahanui: forget druthb
19:28 wahanui        druthb: I forgot druthb
19:28 nengard        that's not a sentence
19:29 druthb         wahanui: druthb is trying to find one of those long dresses the Amish women wear.
19:29 wahanui        OK, druthb.
19:29 nengard        druthb - really?
19:29 nengard        those dresses are shapeless
19:30 druthb         not with the apron tied on, they're not.
19:30 * druthb       is kinda odd-shaped anyway.
19:30 druthb         mostly, I'd wear one to get  a pic so bg could laugh his sox off at it.
19:31 druthb         besides, around here, it'd *guarantee* I wouldn't get mis-gendered.
19:32 druthb         Everyone wears long sleeves, but men wear suspenders, pants and boots, and women wear those dresses, and never the twain shall meet.
19:33 nengard        hmm
19:33 druthb         we're definitely gonna have to come back here, when I'm more-mobile.  fascinating area, fascinating people.
19:34 huginn         New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6712] Remove memberofinstitution markup from templates until it can be completed <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6712>
19:35 cait           hm
19:35 cait           trying to trick overdue_notices into generating an html file
19:35 cait           not usre what I am doing wrong here :(
19:36 cait           perl overdue_notices.pl -t -html test.html
19:37 cait           print() on closed filehandle $html_fh at overdue_notices.pl line 356.
19:40 cait           ah
19:40 cait           wrong descr. should be directory not a filename proably
19:50 nengard        okay i think i found an icky bug
19:50 oleonard       Ew, step on it!
19:50 rhcl           worse than sticky?
19:51 nengard        bug 6713
19:52 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6713 critical, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , marc import not matching
19:52 nengard        don't know how to step on this one :(
19:53 wizzyrea       cait didn't we talk about something like that?
19:55 nengard        ??
19:56 wizzyrea       dunno it was weeks ago
19:56 cait           wizzyrea: marc import not matching?
19:56 cait           I think someone mentioned it today
19:56 wizzyrea       yea
19:56 cait           on the mailing list
19:56 wizzyrea       nah, this was someone we talked to a few weeks ago
19:57 nengard        yes today that was sent by me
19:57 wizzyrea       i'm trying to find it
19:59 wizzyrea       http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/out.pl?channel=koha;date=2011-06-02
19:59 wizzyrea       er sec
20:00 wizzyrea       http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/koha/2011-06-02#i_684754
20:00 nengard        wizzyrea - holy cow - that was a long time ago
20:01 nengard        no one reported it?
20:01 wizzyrea       i guess not
20:02 wizzyrea       I thought cait and I talked that person through some things
20:02 wizzyrea       but I can't find the conversation
20:02 wizzyrea       oh here it is
20:02 wizzyrea       http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/koha/2011-06-02#i_684916
20:03 wizzyrea       that person said they'd file the bug
20:03 wizzyrea       but apparently didn't
20:03 cait           hm not sure
20:03 cait           perhaps there is one
20:06 cait           oh
20:06 cait           now oleonard has a chocolate fish too!
20:06 cait           *sniffs*
20:06 wizzyrea       hee
20:06 oleonard       What is the significance of a chocolate fish?
20:07 cait           http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chocolate_fish
20:08 rhcl           wizzyrea, something you might be interested in? http://www.userful.com/products/userful-pre-book  We're getting ready to install and test it now.
20:08 cait           you deserve your chocolate fish - but I want one too :)
20:08 wizzyrea       aha
20:09 wizzyrea       they are nommy
20:11 * oleonard     thought he was missing some arcane bit of rpg knowledge
20:11 rhcl           report program generator? that's all arcane
20:12 rhcl           http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Report_program_generator
20:13 * oleonard     being a fan of FPS always thinks of RPG as rocket-propelled grenade
20:17 rangi          wizzyrea: you have time to reply to david and the list saying you reported the bug?
20:17 wizzyrea       technically I didn't report the bug, nicole did
20:18 wizzyrea       but sure
20:18 rangi          that too
20:18 rangi          just so ppl can see we are taking action
20:18 rangi          ill go see if i can fix it now
20:18 rangi          cos i dont want to write yet another quote
20:18 nengard        i already replied
20:19 nengard        when i reported it
20:19 rangi          sweet
20:19 wizzyrea       yea I see now
20:19 rangi          i just saw his one
20:19 nengard        his that didn't make it on the list? or mine that was a copy of his
20:19 nengard        i replied to mine that was a copy of his
20:20 wizzyrea       i only saw nicole's
20:20 wizzyrea       either way it's all good
20:20 nengard        yup
20:20 rangi          his one just came through
20:21 cait           harley mail :(
20:21 * rangi        replies
20:21 wizzyrea       (already answered)
20:21 rangi          lol
20:21 rangi          snap
20:21 oleonard       wizzyrea's got some kind of macro for Harley replies :)
20:22 wizzyrea       nah, it's not much to type. ;)
20:22 wizzyrea       did you like my usage of LL ILS?
20:22 cait           go get the real thing!
20:23 oleonard       wizzyrea: I did.
20:23 wizzyrea       I suppose I could have directed him to download the real thing.
20:24 wizzyrea       hmm.
20:24 rangi          i did
20:24 wizzyrea       brilliant
20:24 rangi          so 2 replies ftw
20:24 rangi          i called it liblimes product i think
20:25 * oleonard     waits for jwagner's reply
20:25 wizzyrea       cait: there's hilongo, the guy who originally saw this
20:25 wizzyrea       that bug with the matching rules
20:26 wizzyrea       (on the list)
20:26 wizzyrea       why does it always feel so meta to talk about the list in IRC
20:26 rangi          working on it now
20:26 rangi          gotta be something recent that changed it
20:28 rangi          testing it first on master
20:28 cait           wizzyrea: ah - you found it?
20:28 rangi          ok works in master
20:28 wizzyrea       yea, tehre's a link somewhere up ther
20:28 cait           sounds like it could be tt
20:29 rangi          trying with more than one record
20:31 rangi          i cant recreate on master
20:31 rangi          http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6713
20:31 huginn         04Bug 6713: critical, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , marc import not matching
20:31 rangi          trying on 3.4.x
20:32 rangi          works fine there too
20:32 wizzyrea       try changing the rule?
20:33 wizzyrea       hilongo indicated that it was after he edited the rule
20:33 cait           hi hdl
20:34 cait           back from your vacation? :)
20:34 rangi          will try changing the rule
20:34 rangi          did he change it, and change it back?
20:34 rangi          cos changing id expect it to break it
20:34 cait           hilogo wrote he added the rules directly to the databe
20:34 cait           so we should check delete, edit and add I guess
20:34 hdl            hi cait
20:34 rangi          well that seems totally different to what david reported
20:34 rangi          which was, exported and reloaded, no rules changed
20:35 hdl            rangi...
20:35 wahanui        I LIKE ALMONDS! HAVE SOME NUTS!
20:35 rangi          hi hdl
20:35 wizzyrea       ^ makes me laugh every time
20:36 hdl            With Memcached on, there might be some flushing  to be done
20:36 wizzyrea       the only thing on stage marc that's new is jared's encoding option
20:37 wizzyrea       415ea180
20:38 jcamins_away   That's not very new.
20:39 wizzyrea       it's the only thing that's changed
20:40 jcamins_away   Hrm.
20:40 jcamins_away   No idea. Just commenting that that's not a new feature. ;)
20:40 cait           and tt
20:41 wizzyrea       yep
20:42 wizzyrea       aha yea
20:42 wizzyrea       editing the rule, even the description
20:42 wizzyrea       in admin -> matching rules
20:42 wizzyrea       breaks the rule
20:43 jcamins_away   Ah, that explains why matching is working for me.
20:43 wizzyrea       yup
20:43 rangi          ah ha
20:43 rangi          good find wizzy
20:43 rangi          want to note on the bug, or shall i?
20:44 wizzyrea       I can
20:44 rangi          cool
20:44 rangi          ill go see if i can find out why that is doing that
20:44 rangi          i hope it takes me about 7 hours
20:44 wizzyrea       :)
20:44 rangi          then ill have made it through the day
20:44 rangi          :)
20:46 cait           hehe
20:46 cait           still have to write something?
20:46 rangi          another 2 quotes
20:47 rangi          i shouldnt complain, its nice ppl are asking to pay us
20:47 wizzyrea       crikey
20:47 rangi          but i just wish someone would write them for me
20:49 melia          aaawww
20:49 cait           I understand you totally
20:50 wizzyrea       rangi do you still want a .mrc file?
20:50 rangi          nope all good
20:50 wizzyrea       k
20:50 rangi          ahh i see the issue
20:51 wizzyrea       database structure?
20:51 cait           yay
20:51 cait           missing parameter
20:51 wizzyrea       nuts, I was hoping wahanui had a link ;)
20:51 bg             hey rangi you see the patches come in from painohacker ?  for the marceditor :)
20:51 cait           only guessing
20:51 bg             sorry text MARC editor :)
20:52 rangi          yep, will wait and see them when they get signed off :)
20:52 cait           I think owen mentioned some problems with it
20:53 rangi          the upates are doing crazy inserts instead
20:53 rangi          tracking down the code
20:55 rangi          code hasnt changed, undoubtedly template
21:06 jenkins_koha   Starting build 30 for job Koha_3.4.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
21:11 yhager         I would like to add a few web pages to OPAC, and found this: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_as_a_CMS, but it seems out of date. Is this the easiest way to do this?
21:12 cait           good night all
21:16 rangi          its adding matchchecks, when it shouldnt
21:16 sekjal         rangi:  a-ha!
21:16 rangi          now just to figure out why
21:18 rangi          yeah thats it, you can remove it, but it keeps coming back
21:18 yhager         It seems that the template engine was changed since this guide was written
21:18 sekjal         I look forward to reading the updated bug report and signing off / QA'ing whatever patch
21:18 libsysguy      hey sekjal i have a question
21:18 sekjal         libsysguy:  shoot
21:18 libsysguy      how can i tell what branch a bug is in if i want to check it out
21:19 libsysguy      like bug 5549 for example
21:19 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5549 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED , Hourly Loans
21:19 sekjal         libsysguy:  rangi would be able to describe the process a little better than I could
21:20 sekjal         usually branch is 'new/bugXXXX', or "new/awaiting_qa/bugXXXX'
21:20 libsysguy      i remember it was checkout -b bug_5549 /new/awaiting_qa/bug_5549
21:20 libsysguy      yeah thats the part i needed
21:20 rangi          on new/enh/bug
21:21 rangi          or even
21:21 libsysguy      is there some kind of standard for that?
21:21 rangi          yep
21:21 rangi          awaiting_qa for stuff awaiting qa
21:21 rangi          enh for features
21:21 libsysguy      heh
21:21 sekjal         gtg
21:21 rangi          new/bug_xxx for bugs
21:21 libsysguy      but its always in new
21:21 rangi          yep
21:21 libsysguy      later sekjal
21:21 libsysguy      ok cool
21:21 libsysguy      ill see if i can get it to work after my database imports
21:21 libsysguy      i had to move to a new server :'(
21:26 rhcl           brooke?
21:26 wahanui        Brooke tripped on the cord, broke the internet or not fond of a single person blocking another.
21:27 rhcl           bonnet?
21:28 rangi          AH HA!!!!!
21:31 * wizzyrea     thinks rangi had a breakthrough
21:31 * wizzyrea     prepares the confetti
21:32 rangi          well yep at least a small one
21:32 rangi          my @mc_nums = sort map { /^mc_(\d+)_id/ ? int($1): () } $input->param;
21:32 rangi          foreach my $mc_num (@mp_nums)
21:33 rangi          who can spot the error there
21:33 * chilts       can
21:33 chilts         are @mc_nums numbers rather than string?
21:33 rangi          could be
21:33 rangi          also
21:33 rangi          we make mc_nums
21:33 rangi          then foreach of mp_nums
21:33 chilts         oh and $input->param might be returned a scalar - not sure
21:34 rangi          even more simple than both those
21:34 rangi          we are looping over the matchpoints, and treating them like matchchecks ;)
21:34 rangi          further up the file we have
21:34 chilts         the regex returns the number of _matching_ strings
21:34 rangi          my @mp_nums = sort map { /^mp_(\d+)_search_index/ ? int($1): () } $input->param;
21:34 chilts         ie. 1
21:35 rangi          you see what i mean?
21:35 chilts         yeah , it's returning 1 each time 'coz it matches once ... rather than returning what's in the (\d+) ???
21:35 rangi          its just a typo i think
21:36 wizzyrea       how long was it broken?
21:36 rangi          @mp_nums instead of @mc_nums
21:36 huginn         rangi: I suck
21:36 chilts         ah ... heh
21:36 rangi          maybe
21:37 chilts         hmmm, I just concentrated on the sort line, for some reason my eyes didn't see the foreach line :)
21:37 chilts         oopse :(
21:37 * chilts       is glad it's Friday!
21:38 rangi          well i think thats part of the issue anyway
21:38 rangi          but now i need to load fresh rules in my db, and check
21:38 chilts         yeah, I think the sort is wrong too :)
21:38 rangi          yeah
21:38 rangi          i think changing rules has been busted a long time
21:38 chilts         does $input->param return a single value or an array?
21:39 rangi          array
21:39 chilts         heh, nice, a singular method name returning an array :(
21:39 * chilts       thinks it should be 'params'
21:39 chilts         but that's just part of it I guess
21:39 rangi          it returns a value if you call it with a key
21:39 rangi          eg param('something');
21:40 rangi          ETCHING THE NAMES OF ALL THE PARAMETERS PASSED TO YOUR SCRIPT: @names = $query->param
21:40 chilts         I usually split methods like that up, so ->param('key') and ->params('
21:40 chilts         key')
21:40 chilts         oopse
21:40 rangi          tell it to lincoln stein :)
21:40 rangi          @values = $query->param('foo');
21:40 rangi          -or-
21:40 rangi          $value = $query->param('foo')
21:40 rangi          confusinating ;)
21:40 chilts         right ... :(
21:41 chilts         I have a slight wrapper around CGI for fixing up a few things ... well, maybe not a wrapper but a few methods which make things a little nicer
21:41 chilts         I mean, returning a list of params which are concatenated with \0 is a bit sad :(
21:42 chilts         hmm, I suppose that call _is_ in list context, so I guess that makes sense ... can still be confusing though :)
21:46 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_3.4.x build #30: SUCCESS in 41 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.4.x/30/
21:46 jenkins_koha   * m.de.rooy: 4959: Language inconsistencies on basket groups; skip confirmation when closing basket.
21:46 jenkins_koha   * Chris Cormack: Updating history
21:48 wizzyrea       k out for a bit
21:48 wizzyrea       later
21:59 rangi          yeah that fixed part of it, its missing some other stuffs now
21:59 rangi          but partially fixed
22:15 rangi          turns out there is a template bug too, fixing that now as well
22:23 rangi          right, patch on its way
22:30 huginn         New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6713] marc import not matching <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6713>
23:07 rangi          and nengard has signed off
23:09 rangi          its melia!
23:10 melia          hi rangi :)
23:38 Brooke         0/
23:39 rangi          hiya Brooke
23:39 Brooke         :)
23:39 rangi          http://garageproject.co.nz/
23:40 Brooke         oh you terrible tease, you.
23:42 Brooke         0/
23:48 rangi          http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/5434460/cold
23:48 libsysguy      rangi do you have any sound cloud music for setting up Koha from scratch?
23:49 * Brooke       hands rangi some snowshoes
23:49 rangi          ahh i do
23:49 Brooke         There used to be really good mukluks on Ebay. Should have bought them when I saw em.
23:49 rangi          libsysguy: my record is 8 minutes btw
23:49 Brooke         impressive!
23:49 libsysguy      wow
23:49 libsysguy      that is officially beast mode
23:50 rangi          that was back in 1.4 days
23:50 libsysguy      ohh ok...so not so many dependencies
23:50 libsysguy      that is what always slows me down
23:51 rangi          http://soundcloud.com/an-ten-nae/black-sabbath-war-pigs-an-ten-naes-acid-crunk-remix
23:51 mtj            libsysguy: # apt-get install koha-common
23:51 mtj            that gets 'em all ;)
23:51 libsysguy      grr really
23:51 libsysguy      i'm always using that shell script
23:51 libsysguy      lo
23:52 rangi          and then to celebrate, when its up
23:52 rangi          http://soundcloud.com/high-rankin/drop-top-machete-high-rankin-remix
23:52 libsysguy      excellent...im liking the first already
23:53 * libsysguy    toasts to blasting black sabbath in the silent library
23:53 * Brooke       throws up the horns!
23:56 Brooke         heyo bobo
23:57 rangi          http://soundcloud.com/bird-of-prey/fever-ray-coconut-bird-of-prey-remix  <-- when you are showing it up and running
23:59 libsysguy      man I wish zebra didn't take 5 hours to index