Time Nick Message 23:58 bg oh sorry was thinking of OpacSupression (or something like that) 23:57 bg try the 942$c field instead of in the item record 23:51 daniel969 I am talking about 'OpacHiddenItems' in: Administration > System Preferences > OPAC (under the Policy section). The documentation says that it uses YAML syntax to define the rule. I have used a field from the items table and I have entered fieldname: [value] but it doesn't seem to work. Any idea? Do I need to do a re-index? 23:38 daniel969 Hi there, can anyone please confirm that the OpacHiddenItems setting works in version 3.4.2? 21:38 bg no kidding eh? 21:38 moodaepo bg: Been a while! : ) 21:38 huginn moodaepo: The current temperature in MSU Physics Dept, Mankato, Minnesota is 22.1�C (4:37 PM CDT on August 09, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 15.0�C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008.0 hPa (Steady). 21:38 moodaepo @wunder 56001 21:38 huginn bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 19.7�C (2:36 PM PDT on August 09, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 17.0�C. Pressure: 29.88 in 1011.7 hPa (Steady). 21:38 bg @wunder 93109 21:37 bg heya moodaepo 21:28 rhcl OK, well it seems that I got zebra running OK on my system...for future reference. It was just a package in the repo and I installed w/ Yast 21:23 wizzyrea gl 21:23 rangi ok, training time, bbl 21:22 bg hmm - not sure I guess you could log into it 21:10 rhcl Looks like it installed fine...what can I do to test it w/o Koha? 21:10 wahanui i think zebra is a fielded free text indexing and retrieval engine with a Z39.50 front-end. You can use any compatible, commercial, or freeware Z39.50 client to access data stored in Zebra. 21:10 rhcl zebra? 21:10 rhcl Zebra is a fielded free text indexing and retrieval engine with a Z39.50 front-end. You can use any compatible, commercial, or freeware Z39.50 client to access data stored in Zebra. 21:10 rhcl Oh, I wasn't trying to define it really, but I can ... 21:10 jcamins_away Defining Zebra. 21:09 rhcl try what again? 21:09 jcamins_away rhcl: try again. 21:09 wahanui jcamins_away: I forgot zebra 21:09 jcamins_away wahanui: forget Zebra 21:09 jcamins_away Hm. That didn't work. 21:09 rhcl it's a standard package 21:09 wahanui hmmm... zebra is fixable but with support money. 21:09 jcamins_away zebra? 21:09 rhcl on OpenSuse 11.4 21:09 rhcl Zebra is a fielded free text indexing and retrieval engine with a Z39.50 front-end. You can use any compatible, commercial, or freeware Z39.50 client to access data stored in Zebra. 21:09 rhcl I'm installing it now. 21:07 bg I think that was in 2008 - haven't tried since 21:07 bg probably 21:07 rhcl what were the problems w/ zebra & OpenSuse? Something that might be corrected now? 21:06 bg but we weren't able to get zebra running on OpenSUSE 21:06 * gmcharlt is just happy that 'gmcharlt' appears to be globally unique 21:06 bg ah I worked on OpenSUSE instructions with him back in the day 21:06 rhcl Ah, yea. Don't see much from him anymore 21:06 jcamins_away Ricardo Dias Marques. 21:05 rhcl What was the name of the guy from Portugal that used to be on occasionally? Ricardo de Mar... something. 21:04 cait the public libary in my home town had seven! 21:04 cait too many duplicates 21:04 cait my real name is always taken :( 21:02 * jcamins_away doesn't generally have to worry either. He's the eldest of the four jcaminses. :) 21:01 wizzyrea no one *else* wants 21:01 wizzyrea i'm glad to have a nick that no one wants 21:01 * bg misses having brendan - that was nice and easy 21:00 huginn JesseM: bgallagher was last seen in #koha 7 weeks, 6 days, 18 hours, 24 minutes, and 56 seconds ago: <bgallagher> hi 21:00 JesseM @seen bgallagher 20:57 jcamins_away bg: owen predated logbot. 20:57 bg I was a slow one to get into IRC 20:57 bg ah I was originally brendan - maybe 2008 20:56 jcamins_away bg: that's when you stopped being bgallagher. 20:56 bg I think owen was like 2003 maybe? 20:56 jcamins_away bg: looks like the first time you said something as bg was 2011-02-15. 20:56 bg but jcamins_away that makes a lot a sense 20:56 bg ah bummer 20:55 jcamins_away bg: you can use the search, though. 20:55 rangi bg: nope i dont think it does 20:54 bg nice frodo just got away by hiding under his cloak :) 20:53 jcamins_away wizzyrea++ # for wise ricotta advice 20:53 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6690] If multiple issues are received in serials-edit.pl, changing the status of any issue changes the date of the first issue. <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6690> 20:53 jcamins_away It does? 20:50 wizzyrea it says "I just tried this with organic valley 1% lactose free milk... turned out great" 20:50 wizzyrea in the comments 20:50 jcamins_away No, I meant lactaid. 20:49 jcamins_away Wait, maybe I mean lactase. I always get those confused. 20:49 jcamins_away I have some lactaid, but I don't think that will work. 20:47 wizzyrea *nod* same 20:46 jcamins_away A shame I don't have any milk. 20:44 bg hmm rangi in stats does it show you the first time your nick appeared in the logs for irc? 20:44 wizzyrea oh right 20:44 jcamins_away Of course, there's still the gnocchi cooking. 20:44 jcamins_away Oh, you do it in the microwave? Nifty! 20:43 wizzyrea http://www.seriouseats.com/2010/02/how-to-make-fresh-ricotta-fast-easy-homemade-cheese-the-food-lab.html 20:43 cait cold :( 20:43 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 12.4�C (10:40 PM CEST on August 09, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 30.25 in 1024.3 hPa (Steady). 20:43 cait @wunder Konstanz 20:42 wizzyrea jcamins_away: no standing over boiling water for this 20:41 cait nope :) 20:41 wizzyrea then not as easy for you :P 20:41 cait no microwave 20:41 wizzyrea pinch of salt 20:41 wizzyrea 2 cups milk, 2 tablespoons vinegar, 4 minutes in the microwave 20:41 jcamins_away I think I'll pass on anything involving standing over boiling water for the moment, though. 20:40 wizzyrea ricotta 20:40 wizzyrea it's super easy to make if you have milk 20:39 * cait puts ricotta on her shopping list 20:39 cait yes 20:39 jcamins_away Mmm. Ricotta gnocchi. What a delicious-sounding dish. 20:30 cait ah, too fast again 20:30 * oleonard starts packing up to go home 20:29 * rangi starts building new packages for obnam 20:29 wizzyrea mhm 20:29 rangi ah even more important they get it sorted out 20:29 oleonard No, that was contracted logo design work 20:29 wizzyrea oleonard was that your doing? 20:28 oleonard Easier to see in color: http://myacpl.org/sites/all/themes/npl/logo.png 20:28 cait oh! 20:28 wizzyrea that's so cute! 20:28 cait looks a bit like a flower 20:28 * wizzyrea had never noticed that it was little people reading books 20:28 wizzyrea to people in india, or if they just like it because it's purty 20:28 * wizzyrea wonders if the ACPL logo means something 20:26 rangi its quite pretty apart from that ;) 20:26 rangi hes the boss type dude at osslabs 20:26 rangi at least they arent fetching it from your site ;) but email savitra 20:26 oleonard I was just wondering who to email. I'll even send the PSD file to create their own 20:25 cait it looks a lot like it 20:25 rangi oleonard: i would email savitra 20:25 wizzyrea lulz 20:25 rangi lol 20:25 oleonard Could it be that's the Athens County Libraries logo? :| 20:24 oleonard There's something fishy about the "no cover image available" graphics on this page: http://libcat.mysore-univ.org/ 20:24 Irma this reminds me to get my visa for India organised! 20:23 Irma that would be good... 20:22 cait hope we will see us at kohacon in uk next year ;) 20:22 cait :) 20:21 Irma I might have to go to London with my daughter (leaving on Friday) ;-) 20:21 cait hm perhaps he is on vacation? 20:21 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6686] Can't delete messages <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6686> 20:21 Irma no luck and I don't know his nick either... 20:20 Irma tried that 20:20 cait perhaps best bet is to drop him an email? 20:20 cait what's his nick? 20:20 Irma What about Michael J Kaye who works with him? 20:17 huginn cait: slef was last seen in #koha 6 days, 4 hours, 49 minutes, and 1 second ago: <slef> pabloab: better luck next time 20:17 cait @seen slef 20:17 cait have not seen him today 20:17 Irma cait was slef around in the last hour or so? 20:15 cait :) 20:14 Irma Good thanks :-) I have an early start today so that I can enjoy a few hour off this afternoon with my eldest daughter visiting us from London 20:12 cait i am fine, and you? 20:12 Irma hi there cait how r u? 20:12 cait hi Irma 20:06 rangi back 20:06 rangi yep 20:06 magnus_afk if you have a remote called github, that is... 20:05 magnus_afk yeah, that should do it 20:05 magnus_afk or is it git push github master? 20:05 magnus_afk git push master github <-- is what i use, i think 20:03 tcohen ? 20:03 tcohen anyone willing to write a short tutorial for working with gitorius/github 20:01 tcohen stuck trying to push koha's origin/master to gitorius 19:57 bg errr or maybe creating buggs 19:57 rangi ok my bus stop back soon for a little bit then off to do some training 19:56 cait someone named bugg should be good at sqashing bugs 19:56 cait :) 19:55 rangi ull see patches from brett soonish :) 19:53 rangi cait: bugg used to be on the elearning team doing moodle stuffs (and maybe drupal?) now he sits up next to me 19:52 rangi he'll be writing python so that will make him happy 19:52 rangi yeah me too 19:51 melia I'm hoping he does well and is happy over there. 19:50 melia yep, I heard the rumour secretly whispered in advance. :) 19:50 cait bugg? 19:49 rangi but we have managed to steal bugg for the koha team 19:49 rangi did you hear reed is leaving? off to weta 19:48 rangi Hehe 19:48 melia yeah, you know what a hipster I am :) 19:47 rangi how very hipster of you :) 19:47 rangi ahhhh 19:46 melia rangi: yes, but no internet at my house yet. so I'm loitering around the coffee shop or just making phone calls until tomorrow. :) 19:44 magnuse git++ 19:44 rangi melia: day 2 eh? 19:43 rangi and can do work on my laptop too etc 19:43 tcohen yeap 19:43 rangi I dont lose it 19:43 rangi push to it, so it my desktop dies 19:43 rangi yep I just use gitorious as backup 19:42 tcohen i've been always working on local branches on my desktop 19:42 melia hi! 19:42 bg heya melia 19:42 wizzyrea always wondered about the origin of kc. Very obvious now. 19:42 tcohen ok rangi, i'll set everything and come back 19:42 rangi named after the bug 19:42 rangi tcohen: thats my workflow any way, all my work is in topic branches 19:41 cait hi melia 19:41 rangi yay its Melia 19:41 rangi otherwise it will no longer be a copy and u get mess 19:40 rangi to your master 19:40 tcohen and git push gitorius 19:40 rangi always branching never push commits 19:40 tcohen pull origin/master frecquently 19:40 tcohen work against gitorius 19:40 tcohen git push gitorius 19:40 tcohen create a local branch following koha's origin/master 19:39 tcohen ok, create a repo on gitorius 19:39 * bg has disk one of the two towers playing in the background :) 19:39 rangi its just a copy of koha community master 19:39 rangi and I never add any commits to that branch 19:38 rangi yup 19:38 tcohen from my local checkout of origin/master? 19:38 rangi I do the same with github 19:37 rangi git push gitorious 19:37 tcohen anyone ? 19:37 rangi I just have a master their, that I push to, so I git pull kc/master 19:36 tcohen for following koha's master from my own repository there 19:36 tcohen and wanted to ask what is the workflow 19:36 tcohen just remembered you used gitorius 19:35 tcohen hi oleonard 19:27 cait but that is about modifying borrowers 19:27 cait ah right 19:27 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3820 normal, P5, ---, paul.poulain, REOPENED , Members in Log Viewer Showing ?? in UPDATE 19:27 * oleonard finds the bug he was looking for: Bug 3820 19:26 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6460 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, januszop, ASSIGNED , No log generated if Action set to All or Modify or Delete 19:26 oleonard Bug 6460 19:26 * magnuse can't remember it off the top of his head... 19:25 magnuse ah, i thought i did something stupid (again)... 19:25 * oleonard might find the logs work better after that ;) 19:25 oleonard No, magnuse, we're just still waiting for it to pass QA 19:24 magnuse ;-) 19:24 * magnuse hides 19:24 cait I think there were some viewing problems with tt 19:23 * oleonard sees magnuse signed off on a log viewer patch a couple of months ago 19:22 oleonard What was the recent conversation about the action logs? Whether to store such and such info? 19:22 wizzyrea oh my, well thank you 19:21 cait :) 19:21 * magnuse agrees 19:18 druthb wizzyrea, you are awesome, and it's not a stretch 19:13 wizzyrea but thank you all the same 19:13 wizzyrea amazing might be a stretch. ;) 19:13 cait he is so right 19:13 cait :) 19:13 wahanui wizzyrea is amazing! 19:13 cait wizzyrea? 19:13 wizzyrea something is <reply> 19:13 cait much smaller libraries :) 19:13 wahanui wizzyrea: I forgot something 19:13 wizzyrea forget something 19:13 cait ah 19:13 wahanui it has been said that something is not right... :/ 19:13 wizzyrea or something 19:12 wizzyrea too much data, it times out 19:12 cait hm I use it a lot 19:12 wizzyrea i don't think i've ever gotten the log viewer to work >.< 19:12 cait so no data lost 19:12 cait but that's good 19:12 oleonard Hm, so do I. I guess the log viewer just isn't finding them 19:11 cait I have some module = circulation action = issue 19:10 cait I thought they were 19:10 cait hm 19:03 oleonard Hmm... It doesn't look like checkouts are getting put in the action log 18:40 oleonard Him and his always off to OCR some Russian texts... 18:37 jcamins_away And, with that, I'm off to OCR some Russian texts. 18:35 jcamins_away No, of course not. 18:35 gmcharlt not that the NKVD is really a laughing matter 18:34 jcamins_away Thank you folks, I'll be here all day. Don't forget to tip your waitstaff. 18:34 gmcharlt hmm, I should figure out a good use for nkvd.librarypolice.com 18:33 jcamins_away Both are evil, and in neither case do you want them in your library records. ;) 18:33 jcamins_away At least NKVD was a logical abbreviation to confuse NFKD with. :) 18:32 jcamins_away Hehe. 18:32 wizzyrea norse fowl kicking ducks? 18:31 jcamins_away I combined NFKD with NKVD. 18:31 gmcharlt jcamins_away: yeah, I didn't think that the New Hackensack Fire Department had anything to do with Zebra ;) 18:29 jcamins_away NFKD. 18:29 jcamins_away Wait, I put the K in the wrong place, didn't I? 18:29 jcamins_away (for those who don't know, Zebra and NKFD encoding have a hate-hate relationship) 18:28 jcamins_away gmcharlt: think Zebra-with-NKFD-encoding. 18:28 jcamins_away I figured out how to view a record, but it should not have taken me several minutes of frustration. 18:28 gmcharlt jcamins_away: no, I haven't. How bad is it? 18:27 jcamins_away Pitiful! 18:27 jcamins_away gmcharlt: have you seen Primo's support for non-Roman character sets? 18:27 jcamins_away libsysguy: http://www.bobcat.nyu.edu/primo_library/libweb/action/search.do?mode=Basic&vid=NYURD&tab=all 18:27 gmcharlt the EBCDIC aside]\ 18:27 libsysguy jcamins_away: linky? 18:27 jcamins_away How could anyone think this horror is a good idea? NOTIS was more functional. 18:26 cait hm, any other option to get the items back from delitems ? 18:26 jcamins_away It's a library catalog. Shouldn't it provide an interface to the records? 18:25 libsysguy or an MVC style 18:25 gmcharlt yep, that would normally be handled slighly higher up the stack 18:25 jcamins_away This is truly the WORST INTERFACE EVER!!! 18:25 libsysguy I agree...man I just thought about how awesome Koha would be in all OOP 18:24 * jcamins_away does not think $dbh->execute("START TRANSACTION;") would be a good idea in any situation. 18:24 libsysguy_away abstraction++ 18:24 libsysguy_away ^^ likes this 18:24 jcamins_away oleonard: not if they were implemented properly, using a DB interface layer. 18:23 oleonard Would transactions interfere with making Koha more db-agnostic? 18:23 jcamins_away I thought the old version of Primo was bad, but the new version truly is light years ahead in the badness competition. 18:22 jcamins_away primo-- 18:22 jcamins_away Wow... 18:22 libsysguy_away cool** 18:22 libsysguy_away that would be coo 18:21 jcamins_away Though I would love to see Koha start taking advantage of transactions. 18:21 jcamins_away Ah. That would be tricky. 18:21 * wizzyrea ponders this 18:21 libsysguy_away i was just going to let wizzyrea know that she can set a delay on her big transactions 18:19 * libsysguy_away also finds this humorous 18:18 * jcamins_away enjoys the fact that two _away people are talking to each other. :) 18:18 jcamins_away libsysguy_away: or use start transaction explicitly. 18:18 libsysguy_away to stop auto-committing right 18:17 libsysguy_away yeah you have to have that flag set 18:17 jcamins_away libsysguy_away: MySQL using InnoDB has transactions, but you can't roll back an arbitrary transaction sometime in the past. 18:12 cait not self made - will save that for weekend 18:12 bg yeah using commit at 3am makes all the difference :D 18:12 wizzyrea oh nice 18:12 * cait had gnocchi for dinner 18:12 * cait blames wizzyrea 18:11 wizzyrea I know! 18:11 jcamins_away wizzyrea: that looks amazing. 18:08 libsysguy_away oh it does http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/commit.html 18:08 cait hm I thin it has something 18:07 libsysguy_away but i don't think mysql has the commit function... 18:06 libsysguy_away oracle** 18:06 libsysguy_away well i know how to do it in oracly 18:06 wizzyrea rather, I did not delete them 18:06 wizzyrea wasn't me that deleted them :P 18:06 libsysguy_away aww poor wizzyrea 18:04 wizzyrea wtg. 18:04 wizzyrea sigh. 18:04 wizzyrea someone batch deleted 5 years of people magazine. 18:04 wizzyrea we have some items that ... how to say 18:03 cait not sure abou tthe sql 18:03 wizzyrea cuz uh 18:03 cait I think you can't do it right now - there is no feature for it 18:03 wizzyrea has anyone ever done it :P 18:03 wizzyrea hmm 18:03 cait in theory yes 18:00 wizzyrea can one restore items from deleted items? 17:36 nengard be back 17:36 nengard time to give an oss webinar 17:34 nengard for those of you on facebook: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=864287144576&set=a.577417543556.2153273.10518624&type=1&comments -- bengard is famous :) 17:17 oakivil got it 17:15 oleonard oakivil: It's linked to from the Import patrons page: /cgi-bin/koha/tools/import_borrowers.pl 17:13 oakivil or the downloaded package 17:13 oakivil not from the internet 17:13 oakivil I cant find the *.csv template file to import patrons from our existing system 17:12 jwagner Sometimes it's the thought that counts :-) 17:12 cait have a nice evening 17:12 paul_p ok, time to go back home. 17:11 paul_p jwagner, = just FYI, I don't drink alcohol (I'm ill when I do). but thanks for the virtual gift ;-) 17:08 cait maybe a little :) 17:08 cait oh 16:56 oleonard Yeah, I guess I let that one go a little... 16:56 oleonard "Your branch and 'origin/master' have diverged, and have 1 and 372 different commit(s) each, respectively." 16:55 rhcl hi #cait 16:48 cait hi #koha 16:35 oleonard In this context stiff = lots of alcohol 16:31 paul_p stiff ? 16:29 * jwagner sends paul_p a stiff drink 16:22 paul_p ouch, something like 10 patches QAed this afternoon... it's really interesting, but need a lot of concentration and i'm exhausted/very tired now ! 16:17 kf bye 15:51 sekjal okay, starting in on circ/holds practice. be back later, I think 15:44 * druthb1 waves at Cail at Green Mountain, just because! 15:44 druthb1 hi, Green Mountain! :D 15:42 nengard Green Mountain College 15:41 * kf waves 15:41 oleonard GMC = GlobalMegaCorp? 15:39 nengard :) hi GMC!!! 15:39 sekjal I like that one a lot 15:39 sekjal oh, no just sharing with our friends at GMC 15:39 nengard sekjal i meant cause of your choice of quote 15:38 huginn druthb1: Quote #102: "<druthb> harrrumph!" (added by gmcharlt at 07:42 PM, November 11, 2010) 15:38 druthb1 @quote get 102 15:38 sekjal I forgot how to use huginn 15:38 nengard uh oh - rough day sekjal? 15:37 wahanui thanks druthb1 :) 15:37 druthb1 wahanui: botsnack cookie 15:37 wahanui hey, druthb1 15:37 druthb1 hi 15:37 kf hi druthb1 :) 15:36 druthb1 :) 15:36 sekjal thanks, druthb1! 15:35 huginn druthb1: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) 15:35 druthb1 @quote get 123 15:34 huginn sekjal: I've exhausted my database of quotes 15:34 sekjal @quote 123 15:34 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5252] Emails & Phones On Patron Add/Edit form <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5252> 15:24 oakivil hello Koha 15:24 nengard patch written and sent 15:12 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5910] Authorities : allow users to search on all auth types <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5910> 15:06 Agent_Dani Welcome. 15:05 libsysguy thanks Agent_Dani 15:05 libsysguy w00t 15:05 Agent_Dani /nick [newname] 15:03 libsysguy like druthb just did 15:03 libsysguy how do you change your username on the fly 15:03 libsysguy ok IRC newb question 15:00 Agent_Dani Huh...sounds like the Bulls game might be a might uncomfortable tonight. 14:59 huginn Agent_Dani: The current temperature in Rockwood, Durham, North Carolina is 30.1�C (10:51 AM EDT on August 09, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 22.0�C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005.0 hPa (Rising). 14:59 Agent_Dani @wunder 27707 14:59 druthb awwww 14:59 * libsysguy is going to be hot :'( 14:59 huginn libsysguy: The current temperature in South Central Tyler, TYLER, Texas is 30.2�C (9:58 AM CDT on August 09, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 24.0�C. Pressure: 29.87 in 1011.4 hPa (Steady). Heat advisory in effect until 8 PM CDT Wednesday... 14:59 libsysguy @wunder 75799 14:59 huginn druthb: The current temperature in http://www.nhpaweather.com, New Holland, Pennsylvania is 24.8�C (10:58 AM EDT on August 09, 2011). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 21.0�C. Pressure: 29.58 in 1001.6 hPa (Falling). 14:58 druthb @wunder intercourse, PA 14:58 huginn kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 18.9�C (4:55 PM CEST on August 09, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 30.14 in 1020.5 hPa (Steady). 14:58 kf @wunder Konstanz 14:52 nengard patch coming 14:52 nengard okay, i'm updating it now 14:51 jwagner I found reference to http://lists.indexdata.dk/pipermail/yazlist/2006-July/001664.html in the ccl.properties file, but don't understand a word of it... 14:50 jwagner any z39.50 experts around? Trying to figure out how to send a search with left-truncation. 001 field has OCLC number which might start with either ocm or ocn -- I want to just send the actual number. 14:49 wizzyrea (I submit we don't care what kind of phone it is, only that it's the one where we contact the patron) 14:49 wizzyrea no matter what secondary designation it carries (is it a home/cell/work phone) 14:48 wizzyrea my opinion is that the number that goes on the slip/receipt is the one that we should favor, and primary/secondary accomplishes that 14:46 paul_p as most ppl give their mobile as 1st, as it's where you can find them everytime. 14:46 paul_p mmm... you're probably right. 14:45 nengard so having primary secondary and other phone would probably be best 14:45 nengard paul_p my home phone is my mobile phone 14:45 paul_p s/changes/changed/ 14:45 paul_p I think it can be changes in phone as well (except for mobile, which is clear enough) 14:45 nengard does anyone object to me changing the phone labels? 14:44 paul_p because all emails are sent by default to the 1st email. And sometimes, the main email had to be entered as "personal", and it was the school one (so a "professional") 14:44 nengard yep 14:44 wizzyrea to primary/secondary 14:44 wizzyrea we use jquery to change them at NEKLS 14:44 nengard (which I will if no one objects) 14:44 nengard and want to do make the same one to the phones 14:44 nengard I love the change 14:44 nengard why not the phone labels? 14:43 paul_p nengard, yes, because we did that ;-) 14:43 nengard someone changed the email labels on the patron add form to 'primary' and 'secondary' - but didn't do the phone numbers - do we know why? 14:43 paul_p (/me does QA this -european- afternoon) 14:43 paul_p well, we work hard, so we don't have time to chat ;-) 14:43 nengard got a question 14:43 libsysguy but it looks like everybody perked up 14:43 libsysguy paul_p: yeah 14:42 druthb hi, libsysguy! 14:42 paul_p hi libsysguy what kind of quietness ? on IRC ? 14:42 wizzyrea hi libsysguy 14:42 nengard yes very 14:39 * libsysguy looks around...its quiet today 14:39 Agent_Dani Hi libsysguy 14:38 libsysguy morning #Koha 14:37 Barrc wizzyrea: Me neither! That's the problem.....! 14:37 wizzyrea i'm not familiar in any significant way with 2.2 14:36 wizzyrea Barrc: oof, yea, that page really needs some attention. 14:34 nengard but attach button doesn't do anything for me 14:34 nengard I can add them after I report, but not on new bugs 14:34 nengard is anyone having trouble in FF adding attachments to bugs when reporting them? 14:34 Barrc there is nowhere to run any 'make' or 'make install'. Therefor I can't see how to get the base 3.0 directory structure in place? 14:33 Barrc I know it going to be stupid but I can't see anywhere on that page where I should actually install the 3.0 files 14:31 wizzyrea how are you getting hung up? 14:27 Barrc Does anyone remember doing a 2.2.x upgrade to 3.0? I am following this: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Upgrading_2.2 but something is missing! 14:06 wizzyrea jcamins: http://budgetbytes.blogspot.com/2011/08/easy-ricotta-gnocchi-258-recipe-065.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+BudgetBytes+%28Budget+Bytes%29 13:59 paul_p sorry I really need 2 weeks of holiday (atomicupdate) 13:58 paul_p oleonard, forget my question 13:58 paul_p was it intended ? 13:58 paul_p oleonard, about 5438 (ext patron attributes display) = there is no updatedatabase if I'm not wrong. 13:41 wizzyrea oleonard++ yes, that 13:37 wizzyrea depends on the day >.> 13:37 oleonard It's not so much our wisdom as our power of interpretation, like reading a fortune cookie. 13:36 Agent_Dani Only sometimes? 13:36 wizzyrea so human wisdom sometimes scares you. 13:36 wizzyrea the irony is of course that he learns it all from humans. ;) 13:33 Agent_Dani infobots are good for that. 13:27 wizzyrea one more system in kansas that is using Koha that still needs to be upgraded to current. :) 13:27 magnuse yeah... 13:27 kf sometimes his wisdom scares me 13:25 wahanui it has been said that one more is better than one less but yeah they should be the same 13:25 magnuse one more? 13:25 magnuse yay! 13:24 wizzyrea only one more to go. :) 13:23 wizzyrea ckls++ 13:23 oleonard Congratulations to ByWater: http://bywatersolutions.com/2011/08/09/the-central-kansas-library-system-chooses-bywater-solutions-for-koha-support-and-implementation/ 12:36 JesseM hi paul_p 12:36 paul_p hi JesseM 12:35 JesseM Hi kf! 12:35 kf hi JesseM 12:32 kf and I can stop complaining to people that miss to add sysprefs to all sql files :) 12:32 kf another cool thing for 3.4 12:31 magnuse paul_p++ # for signing off 12:21 kf magnuse++ 12:11 magnuse paul_p: signed off on your followup! 12:09 oleonard Hi #koha 12:06 NateC Hi paul_p! 12:06 jwagner Bonjour paul_p 12:06 paul_p hello NateC & jwagner . Good morning 12:05 magnuse paul_p: looking at it now, looks fine 11:58 magnuse paul_p: cool" a little busy right now, but i'll get to it! 11:58 paul_p magnuse, if you sign-off my follow-up, we can move to "signed-off" for this one ;-) 11:26 * kf kf_afk 11:23 kf we could ask him next time he shows up 11:23 kf yep 11:22 magnuse and i think the coop had to endorse the bid before he could be too specific? 11:21 kf bye rangi 11:20 rangi have a good day all 11:19 kf he added a lot of information to the wiki last year 11:19 rangi ok, time for sleep 11:18 paul_p UK++ I agree. But a little bit more info from slef would be useful 11:13 druthb hi, kf and magnuse 11:12 * magnuse needs some lunch 11:12 magnuse \o 11:12 kf hi druthb :) 11:11 druthb hi, rangi! :D 11:10 rangi hi druthb 11:10 druthb o/ 11:08 magnuse time flies... 11:07 kf hehe 11:02 magnuse nope 11:01 kf ah... not that long 10:56 magnuse 1. september 10:56 kf how long until the deadline runs out? :P 10:50 magnuse uk++ ;-) 10:50 kf uk++ :) 10:50 rangi 2009 isnt that long ago 10:49 rangi nice enough place, im still voting for UK though :) 10:45 rangi heh 10:45 magnuse and a car ;-) 10:44 rangi tahoe is a lake near it 10:44 rangi no worries, yeah reno is the name of the town 10:43 paul_p rangi, you're probably right. I missed that Reno Tahoe is the name of the airport. I Apologize 10:22 rangi those links are relevant to the proposal that they added, im undoing it, and unblocking them 10:21 rangi paul_p: hmm i dont think jcrockett was spamming 10:17 kf hehe 10:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6537 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , Simplified sysprefs for the web installer 10:16 magnuse and while we a re filling paul_p's plate there is also bug 6537 ;-) 10:14 * paul_p head to grab some food for lunch. kf, will look after lunch 10:09 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4831 critical, P1, ---, henridamien, NEW , Actual Price being ignored after receive 10:09 kf paul_p: meant bug 4831 10:08 kf ah wrong bug, one second 10:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6414 major, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW , actual price not recorded when ordering 10:08 kf paul_p: could you take a look at bug 6414? 10:07 kf hmpf 10:07 kf now I can't find my own bug 10:07 magnuse nah, just guessing... 10:07 kf but you are right of course :) 10:06 kf I am open for nicer pages and messages ;) 10:06 kf I think that's what happens now if you don't pass the auth test with permissions 10:05 magnuse but some page saying you don't have access to this basket? 10:04 magnuse probably not the login page? 10:01 kf so you could try to access a wrong bug by changing the url but you woudl get to the login page - not being authorized 10:01 kf so I am going there and will add this to the bug... 10:01 rangi just like budgets/funds 10:01 kf ok 10:00 rangi yes 10:00 kf would this work? 10:00 rangi yep 10:00 kf and this should be checked before you can see the basket? 10:00 kf to determine if you are allowed to see all baskets or only your own 10:00 kf but a permission 10:00 kf I think perhaps it should not be a syspref 10:00 kf hm speaking not about edgar but about the problem in general 09:58 rangi edgar-- #no need to be rude to people trying to help 09:56 paul_p (duen, kf questions are for you, not for me ;-) ) 09:55 kf and client page = opac? 09:55 kf what is the message you get? 09:55 kf hi paul_p 09:45 duen hi paul all shout down 09:44 duen for my question have any one have an ideas, I had follow http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_Ubuntu with fresh ubuntu 10.10 but it cannot run Admin Page or client page 09:44 paul_p (hi kf & duen ) 09:44 paul_p computers works poorly without elerctricity, it's right ;-) 09:42 duen my computer had break because electricity off 09:42 duen ok 09:41 * kf is not eythian but says hi :) 09:40 duen hi eythian 09:30 kf hi magnuse 09:30 magnuse hiya kf 08:30 kf morning #koha 07:44 magnuse eythian++ # for being awesome 07:24 magnuse c ya! 07:24 Irma ciao all ... talk soon 07:23 Irma Hope I live up to the expectations ;-) 07:23 druthb ...and I've been told, Irma, that I should very much look forward to meeting you...so I am! :) 07:23 paul_p druthb, I know. 07:23 druthb It will be good to see you again, paul_p. I look a little different than I did in plano. :) 07:23 Irma R&R = rest and recreation 07:22 paul_p magnuse, right ;-) 07:22 Irma and hopefully a bit of R&R for the parents ;-) 07:22 magnuse Irma: KohaCon2011 first, probably? ;-) 07:22 paul_p Irma, yep 07:22 Irma paul_p Great place! Your kids must be so excited! 07:22 druthb paul_p: Four, is the current plan--me, bg, sekjal, and JesseM 07:22 paul_p BibLibre=> 3 = me, Francois Charbonnier (librarian, project manager) and Julian Maurice (developer) 07:21 Irma yes we are going to KohaCon2012 07:21 paul_p druthb, how many from bywater come to India ? 07:21 druthb no problem, Irma! Am I going to get to meet you in India? 07:21 Irma Merci merci! druthb 07:20 paul_p hi Irma holiday starts on friday for me. I go here: http://www.saint-avit-loisirs.com/rubrique/Saint%20Avit%20Loisirs/c1f67db90e19525298490326a9a68b55/ 07:20 druthb nope. Before I was here, I was involved in a number of Horizon->LEKish migrations, but no AmLibs. 07:19 Irma what about before your time at bywater? druthb 07:18 Irma Ah ha 07:18 druthb s/sn/sun/ 07:18 druthb Just about everything else under the sn in the US market, but not that one. 07:18 Irma thanks druthb 07:18 druthb Irma: I've not done an AmLib migration yet, either. 07:17 Irma thanks magnuse... 07:17 Irma http://www.amlib.net/products/default.html 07:16 Irma Actually I would be very interested if anyone has and if they could share some info about the data migration ... 07:16 magnuse Irma: AmLib? never heard of it... norwegian libraries use norwegian systems almost exclusively... 07:15 druthb early. I slept most all afternoon yesterday, so my body is saying "no mores!" 07:15 Irma magnuse have you done any AmLib conversion to Koha? 07:14 magnuse that's early, druthb? or late? 07:14 magnuse \o 07:14 druthb o/ 07:14 magnuse yay! 07:14 Irma magnuse so she is returning to London on Friday but it was great to have her here. The lucky girl saw a large whale breaching yesterday ... 07:13 Irma As tu pris des vacances avec ta famille? 07:12 Irma hello paul_p Ca Va? 07:12 magnuse kia ora paul_p 07:12 paul_p hello every body 07:12 Irma My eldest daughter is in Sydney visiting 07:11 magnuse and yerself? 07:11 magnuse excited that the debian packages are soon about to have translations! 07:10 Irma Good to "hear"! 07:10 magnuse fine, thanks! 07:10 Irma How are you doing? 07:10 Irma Hi there magnuse :-) 07:10 magnuse kia ora Irma 06:53 julian hi #koha 06:23 alex_a hi #koha 05:32 cait hi #koha 05:03 eythian OK. So what isn't working? And what happens when you try it? 05:02 duen sorry , that http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_Ubuntu 05:01 eythian which page there, there's a lot of documentation on that page. 05:01 duen fresh ubuntu desktop 10.10 05:00 duen http://koha-community.org/documentation/ 04:59 duen i follow http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=en&tl=th&u=http%3A%2F%2Fkoha-community.org%2Fdocumentation%2F&anno=2 04:58 eythian how did you install it? Did you use packages, or did you use the tar.gz download from the site, or did you use git? 04:57 duen i miss spelling 04:57 eythian OK, cool 04:56 duen sorryy 3.4.3 not 3.1.3 04:56 duen have anyone have ideas to solves this problme 04:56 eythian the first question is why you would pick a strange version like that. 3.4.3 is the current stable release 04:55 duen it shown localhost that it works but don't have anything 04:55 duen i have some problem after install koha3.01.03 on ubuntu 10.10 , it cannot 04:54 duen hi 04:30 phlunk3 sorry to ask again, but dont suppose anyone is around who knows if I need to rebuild an index or so after updating the setting of "opachiddenitems" to exclude some search results? 04:23 rangi :) cya 04:22 paulnz Thanks - will leave you to your routing now. see ya 04:15 paulnz claps and cheers 04:12 rangi right i think i fixed it, can you try now please? 04:08 paulnz yup - just doesn't want to play along 04:02 rangi thats a weird one alright, no errors, just nothing added 03:57 rangi cool thanks 03:57 paulnz free dvd - FDVD code, 1 week no rental charge 03:54 rangi whats an itemtype you were trying to create? 03:52 paulnz fair enough 03:50 rangi dont like to do it when the library is open 03:50 rangi ill try to do that tonight or tomorrow night 03:50 rangi yeah, i havent had a chance to poke at the routing again 03:50 paulnz how about our authentication stuff - still posing some problems? 03:49 paulnz sounds a familiar story ;) 03:49 rangi no big issues, a few little queries, but all in all pretty smooth 03:49 paulnz really - nice one 03:48 rangi go live today 03:48 paulnz oh, has it been not quiet? 03:47 rangi all is quiet at waitaki, so i can do that 03:47 rangi hmm no, ill have a look tho 03:47 paulnz any ideas on why i can't create new item types - haven;t had any suggestions via email 03:46 paulnz wotcher wahanui 03:45 wahanui salut, paulnz 03:45 paulnz howdy 03:44 rangi hi paulnz 03:15 rangi 40 mins 03:15 rangi http://techcrunch.com/2011/08/08/amazon-ec2-outage/ 03:14 rangi yep its back now 03:09 bg or maybe it's working for me - is a better statement 03:09 bg ah it's back up now 03:01 rangi yep 03:00 eythian yeah 02:59 phlunk3 ec2 == amazon btw? 02:58 phlunk3 lol 02:57 rangi lol 02:56 eythian http://www.stuff.co.nz/oddstuff/5413443/Young-rugby-fan-gets-stuck-in-vending-machine 02:56 rangi http://koha-community.org/ <-- down 02:56 rangi seems to be a good chunk o fit 02:53 eythian like, all of it? 02:48 rangi crap, ec2 is down 02:09 phlunk3 have now changed the setting properly to exclude a simple column = value, but this doesnt seem to work, do we need to re-index data or so after changing that setting? 01:48 rangi hmm, not off the top of my head i suspect someone from biblibre could, but they will all be asleep 01:47 phlunk3 hi guys, I am trying to change the setting "opachiddenitems" so that it won't show items 'where itemcallnumber is like "RES%"' (pretend its sql ? :P). can anyone tell me how to do this with yaml? 01:03 mtj does the same bug exist without memcached? 01:02 Judit yes 01:01 mtj Judit: is your system running memcached? 00:35 Judit 3.02.09.000 00:34 Judit rangi suggested to restart the memcache -done, but still the same 00:33 Judit some should be there/ not showing 00:33 Judit some which are not there- not supposed to be there 00:32 Judit it is not showing the correct fields 00:32 Judit when i go to cataloging 00:32 Judit but 00:32 Judit added, removed subfields, changed the hidden status etc 00:32 Judit i edited a framework 00:31 Judit i have a nice question here 00:31 Judit so 00:12 eythian fighting the fight against thermodynamics 00:11 eythian in fact, I'm making less things broken. 00:08 Judit unusual 00:08 Judit :) 00:07 eythian certainly not 00:06 Judit did you break anything recently eythian? 00:06 eythian hi 00:04 Judit hullo