Time  Nick           Message
00:00 Judit          happy sysadmin day - dont forget to buy/make pizza to your sysadmin :)
00:02 rhcl           ya think? I'm thinking it wouldn't hurt it, but maybe I'll just buy a new one.
00:06 jcamins_away   rhcl: I'd say it's worth a try.
00:06 jcamins_away   It depends on the type of plastic.
00:07 * jcamins_away is not feeling optimistic about this pizza.
00:07 jcamins_away   It's just way too humid.
00:07 rhcl           Well, I wash them (keyboards) in the dishwasher fairly often, but then they have to dry overnight. I was thinking alcohol might speed up the drying process.
00:08 jcamins_away   rhcl: the last time I washed a keyboard with rubbing alcohol was probably about a decade ago, and it was a *really cheap* one.
00:10 rhcl           I did learn, after about my third one, that it was better to take the time to actually take them apart and wash just the upper part, not the electronics. It took about three days to dry out if I washed
00:10 rhcl           'em whole.
00:12 rhcl           off to do stuff...ltr
00:16 danmc          I prefer to not put leaded items in my dishwasher...
00:17 danmc          but perhaps yours is a ROHS one
00:19 jcamins_away   Oh no! I have no cheese!
00:21 Judit          :)
00:50 Brooke         kia ora
00:50 Brooke         wahanui: friday?
00:50 wahanui        friday is It's Friday, Friday Gotta get down on Friday
00:51 * jcamins_away reinterprets "pizza" in the loosest possible sense of the word.
00:51 * Brooke       grunts.
00:51 Brooke         That sounds dangerous
00:51 Brooke         I still have some venison and wild rice.
00:53 jcamins_away   Venison and wild rice pizza?
00:53 jcamins_away   Intriguing.
00:54 Brooke         nah no pizza
00:54 Brooke         just venison and wild rice
00:54 Brooke         some dried cranberries in there, though
00:55 Brooke         not that I *can't* make pizza
00:55 Brooke         I just _didn't_/
00:55 jcamins_away   That sounds good too, but it fails the "must be pizza" requirement for my dinner.
00:55 jcamins_away   Also, I have neither venison nor wild rice.
00:56 Brooke         psha, fine hunter / gatherer you are :P
00:56 * jcamins_away hunted and gathered extensively in the wilds of his refrigerator and pantry.
00:56 jcamins_away   Hence the looseness of the definition.
00:56 Brooke         "He's a business man from Buffalo?"
00:56 jcamins_away   What?
00:57 Brooke         http://www.wben.com/pages/8230372.php?
00:58 jcamins_away   Heh.
01:01 Brooke         ooooh Melissa Harris Perry
02:01 libsysguy      evening #Koha
02:02 libsysguy      anybody around that can offer up some advice on the borrowers table?
02:05 rangi          maybe
02:06 libsysguy      we are probably just going to be doing LDAP auth at the university but i have a feed of currently enrolled students that I am going to push to the database that doesn't contain passwords
02:06 libsysguy      is that going to be a problem?
02:07 rangi          nope
02:07 rangi          if its doing ldap auth, dont need a password in the koha db
02:07 libsysguy      until it replicates i suppose it won't be there
02:07 libsysguy      ok cool :)
02:11 rangi          libsysguy: http://soundcloud.com/neek-dubstep/liquid-torqux-power-stalkers
02:35 libsysguy      now this is my kind of music
02:36 rangi          how bout http://soundcloud.com/wick-it/beastie-boys-no-sleep-till
02:36 libsysguy      rangi++ for good coding music selection
03:26 libsysguy      rangi do you know what the sort 1 and sort 2 fields are for when you enter a new patron
03:27 jcamins_away   Hypothetically speaking, could a valid MARCXML document have attributes on the subfield tag from a different namespace?
03:28 jcamins_away   libsysguy: they're for your own use for reporting.
03:28 rangi          libsysguy: yeah, you can leave them blank safely
03:28 libsysguy      jcamins_away: do you know where they are in the database
03:28 rangi          borrowers table
03:28 libsysguy      i was looking for a field to put whether a student is a freshman, sophomore etc
03:29 libsysguy      any ideas?
03:29 wahanui        any ideas are welcome :)
03:29 rangi          yep, you could use it for that
03:29 rangi          or you could use extended attributes
03:29 libsysguy      ok i might do the extended attributes
03:30 jcamins_away   rangi: any idea if I could add a koha:visibility attribute to MARCXML?
03:31 libsysguy      are the extended attributes in borrowers?
03:31 libsysguy      oops
03:31 jcamins_away   Actually, that's how we handle items already, isn't it?
03:31 libsysguy      i see it in the other table
03:31 jcamins_away   libsysguy: no, they're in the extended attributes table.
03:31 rangi          yup i think so jcamins_away
03:32 rangi          libsysguy: you have seen the borrower import tool in koha eh?
03:32 rangi          that can import a csv file, and do extended attributes etc
03:32 jcamins_away   rangi: thanks.
03:33 libsysguy      no i haven't
03:33 rangi          ahhh
03:33 rangi          look under tools
03:33 rangi          in the staff interface
03:33 libsysguy      but im going to be upset if it does the same thing as the script i just wrote lol
03:33 rangi          i suspect it does ;)
03:33 * libsysguy    cries a little on the inside
03:34 rangi          sorry i didnt tell ya earlier
03:34 libsysguy      its cool...writing a script is a learning process anyway
03:35 rangi          *nod*
03:35 rangi          http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz/2011/07/29/changes-for-3-4-3-broken-down-by-filetype/
03:35 libsysguy      well i can safely safely say that Koha's was far more complex than mine :p
03:35 rangi          heh yeah it has to cater to everything
03:35 libsysguy      exactly
03:52 libsysguy      rangi in the bulk patron import tool i see there is a patron attribute field
03:53 libsysguy      if i have a patron attribute defined
03:53 libsysguy      what would i put there?
03:53 eythian        rangi has gone to prepare for friday drinking
03:54 libsysguy      omg there is an entire day dedicated to drinking
03:54 libsysguy      *jealous eyes*
03:54 eythian        yes?
03:54 eythian        don't you do that?
03:54 libsysguy      negative good sir
03:54 libsysguy      but thanks for making me want to move to NZ
03:54 libsysguy      lol
03:55 libsysguy      you wouldn't happen to know the answer to my question would you?
03:55 eythian        wow. You must miss out on a lot.
03:55 eythian        unfortunately now
03:55 eythian        *no
03:55 libsysguy      its ok...i don't think i can finish this tonight anyway
03:56 eythian        it is Friday after all
03:56 libsysguy      and i had my days of drinking...college
03:56 libsysguy      i still have an hour till its friday
03:56 libsysguy      :'(*
03:56 eythian        Man. The past sure does suck.
03:57 libsysguy      yeah it does...
03:57 libsysguy      oh well...im off to bed to welcome friday in with shut eyes
03:57 libsysguy      thanks eythian
03:57 libsysguy      :)
03:57 eythian        cya
05:06 cait           morning all
05:16 huginn`        New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 4222] Nonpublic note not appearing in the staff client <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4222>
06:33 bg             bye peeps
06:34 bg             welcome back peeps
06:55 julian         hello!
07:13 kf             hi #koha
07:48 lds            paulp_: bonjour
07:48 wahanui        hola, lds
08:09 paul_p         BibLibre mail server hacked...
08:12 kf             ouch :(
08:18 paul_p         shut down by the provider. mailing lists down
08:25 kf             double ouch
08:33 kf             paul_p: and that on a friday - hope you can solve it soon
08:34 paul_p         well, the server is OK. We could request the provider to reboot it normally. But he could detect a hacking again. Except it seems that this provider sometimes shutdown for security reason, without a valid reason (some complains found on the forums...)
08:35 paul_p         security++, but reboot without warning--
08:43 Brooke         kia ora
08:45 Brooke         anyone on that's cool enough to IP ban a wiki bot?
08:52 kf             not sure
08:54 kf             Brooke: there is lots of spam on the wiki - but normally someone blocks very fast
08:54 Brooke         I reverted what I could
08:54 Brooke         but it'd be cool to drop the ban hammer on em
08:56 Brooke         I'm positive that nengard, paul, magnus, gmcharlt can all do so. (hint, hint.)
09:29 paul_p         seems the server has really been hacked...
09:29 Brooke         git 'em Paul! :)
09:31 Brooke         *knocks on wood* at least the bot programmers were lazy and didn't foresee a revert war
09:47 paul_p         OK, solution for restarting the server found.Should be back in less than 2 hours...
10:00 huginn`        New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6066] itemtype when ordering and item-level_itype=no <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6066>
10:03 kf             paul_p: bub 6066 has already been pushed, I will reset the status and have added a comment. I was testing to close the bug when I found a problem.
10:05 paul_p         kf, oups, sorry
10:05 paul_p         shouldn't we let "patch pushed" so ? (even if there's a problem)
10:05 kf             I think leavint it open is best, without a status for patch send
10:06 kf             paul_p: no reason to be sorry :) Easy to miss, I just didn't want you to worry about the patch
10:46 druthb         good morning, #koha. :)
10:56 rangi          i may be drunk, but i can still ban wiki spammers
10:56 druthb         rangi++
11:07 kf             lol
11:07 * kf           will be sore tomorrow - gymnastics
11:07 kf             gymnastics_at_work++
12:05 druthb         hi, oleonard!  :D
12:05 oleonard       Hi
12:10 Agent_Dani     Hi
12:10 wahanui        niihau, Agent_Dani
12:10 druthb         hi, Agent_Dani!
12:11 Agent_Dani     :D Slogging through work. Dealing with low-priority stuff as I can't do anything with my high-priority project right now.
12:12 kf             hi Agent_Dani
12:24 oleonard       it drives me crazy that Koha scripts don't gracefully handle errors when parameters are missing.
12:24 oleonard       If I load additem.pl without passing a biblionumber I don't think I should get an ugly error page
12:24 oleonard       A pretty one, maybe...
13:15 huginn`        New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6635] Can't page through results in label batch <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6635>
13:28 libsysguy      can somebody give me a hand with the bulk patron import script
13:28 libsysguy      i have an extended attribute that i want to import
13:28 libsysguy      and im not sure how to format it in the csv file
13:31 oleonard       The instructions do sound tricky.
13:38 libsysguy      oleonard: where are the instructions...did i miss them on the wiki or are you referring to the instructions on the side of the page
13:38 oleonard       The ones on the page
13:40 libsysguy      oh yeah...a bit
13:42 wizzyrea       friday morning stumper:
13:42 libsysguy      YAYYYY
13:42 wizzyrea       a report that shows how many patrons place holds
13:42 libsysguy      hey oleonard i think ifigured it out
13:43 wizzyrea       something like - count each unique patron number in reserves and old_reserves
13:49 oleonard       You could do it with a subquery I suppose wizzyrea
13:49 oleonard       select * from borrowers where borrowernumber in (select distinct borrowernumber from reserves) ?
13:50 wizzyrea       that lists them out and gets the same as select count(distinct borrowernumber) from reserves;
13:50 wizzyrea       same number
13:50 wizzyrea       so yay~!
13:51 * oleonard     always feels that using a subquery is "cheating," but isn't sure why
14:03 oleonard       List traffic... that's a good sign.
14:09 wizzyrea       druthb, hi thar
14:10 druthb         wizzyrea, hi thar
14:11 kf             sekjal: around?
14:11 wizzyrea       how's it goin?
14:11 libsysguy      druthb your perl scripting skills are far superior to my own
14:11 sekjal         kf:  here, but in a meeting at the moment
14:11 kf             ah
14:11 kf             checksum, 3m self check
14:11 kf             we have problems with titles with umlauts and wonder if that could be the reason
14:12 kf             and I think I remember you talking about checksums
14:12 druthb         i-am-but-an-egg, libsysguy, but thank you.  I've been at it a while, and I've learned a few useful tricks.
14:12 wizzyrea       3m self check?
14:12 kf             yep
14:12 wizzyrea       using SIP?
14:12 kf             yep
14:12 wizzyrea       yea, special characters + 3m + sip = sad panda
14:12 kf             only supposed to check out
14:12 kf             ohoh
14:12 wizzyrea       it'll kick it offline, in my experience
14:13 kf             how do we make the sad panda happier?
14:13 libsysguy      yeah i think it'll take time for me to learn
14:13 wizzyrea       well
14:13 wizzyrea       that, my dear friend
14:13 wizzyrea       is something that we have been trying to figure out for a couple of years :/
14:14 druthb         libsysguy: it does take time, and it takes doing it a lot.  One thing I've learned a lot from is Perl Best Practices.  There is no one right way to do all this--that's one of the features of perl, is that you can do darn near anything six ways--but PBP advocates for, and presents, one way to do things that makes for easy to read, easy to maintain code that you can recycle and use over and over.
14:15 kf             wizzyrea: ouch
14:15 kf             we had no problems with our other vendor
14:15 kf             and they have hebrew titles
14:15 kf             migrated hebrew in 245$a titles
14:15 kf             and it all shows up perfectly
14:16 wizzyrea       other vendor for self check?
14:16 libsysguy      druthb any tips on doing a split and only taking the first element...im trying to split an email on the @ and only grab the name so elliott@uttyler.edu would return elliott with split('@','elliott@uttyler.edu')[0]
14:16 kf             yeah
14:16 kf             other library uses german vendor
14:16 wizzyrea       that is VERY interesting
14:16 wizzyrea       so maybe the problem isn't SIP, it's 3M
14:16 wizzyrea       uh, i realize how ironic that sounds.
14:16 wizzyrea       specifically, the problem isn't koha
14:17 druthb         my ($result,undef) = split(/\@/,$incoming_variable,2);
14:17 kf             not sure if they had to do a lot of stuff
14:17 druthb         you could use ,1 and leave off the undef, but this is explicit--I want the first thing, and deliberately toss the rest.
14:18 kf             we send test cases for them to work and they tested a lot and so far except for the known problems with holds we had no bigger problems
14:18 libsysguy      hmm is there anyway to do it without assigning it to a var
14:18 kf             especially not with diacritics
14:18 libsysguy      here is what i actually have     push(@patron,split('@',$row[3])[0]); #split email to get userid
14:18 wizzyrea       welllll
14:18 kf             I think they probably made it work with unicode
14:19 wizzyrea       yes, that
14:19 wizzyrea       actually that's a very very good point
14:19 jcamins_away   libsysguy: I think you're better off using a variable, so that you can figure out what it means.
14:19 wizzyrea       and an excellent stick to beat 3M with
14:19 wizzyrea       "the germans can do it, why can't you"
14:19 kf             lol
14:19 druthb         split returns an array, and you're wanting to push a scalar, so you have to grab a specific one...you could do what you're trying, but better to take a line, so you can read it later.
14:19 * libsysguy    is a lazy java programmer
14:19 kf             and I will get beaten up for it in the end? ;)
14:19 wizzyrea       nope
14:19 druthb         hi, jcamins_away! :)
14:19 libsysguy      ok i can do that
14:19 wizzyrea       you will be hailed as the mighty savior of pokémon
14:20 wizzyrea       at least in our self check library
14:20 kf             paul_p: still around? aren't you working with 3m too in some of your libraries?
14:20 kf             oh my
14:20 kf             pokemon :)
14:20 jcamins_away   Hi, druthb!
14:20 * druthb       hugs her second-favorite New Yorker, and sends one with him to pass along to her favorite.
14:20 druthb         ;-)
14:21 kf             wizzyrea: and you found no work around for pokemon?
14:21 * jcamins_away passes along the hug, and returns with a hug for Ruth.
14:21 wizzyrea       not yet
14:21 wizzyrea       though I admit I haven't looked at it in months, the library just deals with it
14:21 kf             I wonder how they work in france
14:21 druthb         :D
14:22 kf             hdl told me they had 3M self checks and it worked 'like a charm'
14:23 wizzyrea       that is also interesting. I wonder what they did to fix it, because special characters make our 3M machines puke.
14:23 * kf           nods
14:30 paul_p         kf, yes around (and just discovered one of our recent customer has all his table in myISAM, so witjout contraints...) sh..t friday !
14:33 paul_p         kf, about 3M, I can't help i'm afraid, only hdl could.
14:39 * oleonard     finds notes in his notebook about NPL's upgrade to Koha 2.2
14:40 oleonard       I guess it's taken me a while to fill this one up.
14:48 kf             hi paul_p: we solve dit :)
14:48 * kf           grins
14:48 kf             wizzyrea: want a patch?
14:49 sekjal         kf:  meeting done
14:50 sekjal         kf:  are we talking critics in titles over SIP connections?
14:50 kf             yes
14:50 kf             we got it working now
14:50 sekjal         how?
14:50 kf             solution was on the web
14:51 kf             we changed the checksum calculation, he told me something about not counting letters but bits?
14:51 sekjal         oh!
14:51 kf             our customer was able to checkout the books now on the self check
14:51 sekjal         that's much more elegant than the hack I wrote
14:51 kf             he says the slips are not printing correctly, but the checking out process works now
14:51 kf             this might be your hack
14:51 sekjal         I scrubbed the diacritic marks
14:51 kf             I am posting the patch we created to pastebin, give me a sec
14:52 kf             not a solution for germany
14:52 kf             really
14:52 sekjal         right
14:52 pastebot       "kf" at 193.197.29.135 pasted "From 9176fd464eae3782fe96b53bc" (33 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/1404
14:52 kf             not sure this is the perfect solution- but it solves our problem
14:53 kf             other problems may arise
14:54 sekjal         I think I could wrangle some volunteers to test it
14:57 kf             we don#t do returns on this self check - so not sure there is needed something at other places in the code
14:58 kf             coworker said he copied the solution from a source in the internet
14:58 sekjal         I think it should work all around... but I could be mistaken
15:00 paul_p         OK, mail server is back !
15:01 paul_p         probably a backdoor in drupal or mantis (that are also on this server) let the hacker upload enlightement rootkit. We will upgrade ASAP & check the server everytime...
15:02 oleonard       drupal-- # for making upgrades difficult.
15:04 sekjal         brb
15:32 libsysguy      can i use the import_borrowers script via command line
15:33 libsysguy      because it looks like it pulls the csv file out of the http header
15:33 kf             hm I think there is a patch for 3.6
15:33 kf             to do that, not sure about the version
15:33 libsysguy      hmm
15:33 libsysguy      so for now its online only?
15:39 kf             afaik
15:53 kf             ok, time to leave
15:53 kf             have a nice weekend all!
16:43 nengard        can someone remind me where the publication year for marc21 goes? for unimarc it's biblioitems.publicationyear
16:43 nengard        i think
16:43 nengard        found it biblio.copyrightdate
17:49 bg             rhcl here you go
17:49 bg             rhcl_away: here you go
17:49 bg             @wunder 93109
17:49 huginn`        bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 16.8�C (10:48 AM PDT on July 29, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014.4 hPa (Rising).
17:50 bg             see it's cold :)
17:51 nengard        @wunder 19030
17:51 huginn`        nengard: The current temperature in Maple Point, Langhorne, Pennsylvania is 30.0�C (1:50 PM EDT on July 29, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: 25.0�C. Pressure: 29.87 in 1011.4 hPa (Falling).  Heat advisory in effect until 10 PM EDT this evening... 
17:51 nengard        HA!
17:52 nengard        I want to move to 93109
17:52 wizzyrea       @wunder lawrence ks
17:52 huginn`        wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 30.6�C (12:51 PM CDT on July 29, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 22.0�C. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014.4 hPa (Steady).  Excessive heat watch in effect from Sunday afternoon through Wednesday evening...
17:52 jcamins_away   @wunder 11375
17:52 huginn`        jcamins_away: The current temperature in Middle Village, Queens, New York is 27.8�C (1:50 PM EDT on July 29, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 23.0�C. Pressure: 29.88 in 1011.7 hPa (Falling).
17:52 jcamins_away   Yay! No warnings or watches!
17:53 nengard        heh
17:53 libsysguy      @wunder 75799
17:53 huginn`        libsysguy: The current temperature in South Central Tyler, TYLER, Texas is 33.8�C (12:52 PM CDT on July 29, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: 22.0�C. Pressure: 30.05 in 1017.5 hPa (Steady).
17:53 nengard        that's funny
17:53 nengard        it's hotter in TX but there is no warning there :0
17:53 jcamins_away   Heh. It's much hotter in Tyler than anywhere else, and there's no warning.
17:53 nengard        jinx
17:54 libsysguy      exactly...tyler is the hottest place in the US i swear
17:54 nengard        tyler was plenty nice when i was there
17:55 libsysguy      you were in the in the winter
17:55 libsysguy      lol
18:06 oleonard       @wunder 45701
18:06 huginn`        oleonard: The current temperature in Athens, Ohio is 33.0�C (1:55 PM EDT on July 29, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 21.0�C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1016 hPa (Falling).  Heat advisory in effect until 8 PM EDT this evening... 
18:07 oleonard       You've only got .8° on us libsysguy
18:07 oleonard       @wunder 66044
18:07 huginn`        oleonard: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 30.7�C (1:07 PM CDT on July 29, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 22.0�C. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014.4 hPa (Steady).  Excessive heat watch in effect from Sunday afternoon through Wednesday evening...
18:08 oleonard       wizzyrea is going to need a sweater if it gets any cooler there.
18:08 wizzyrea       :)
18:08 wizzyrea       it's nice today
18:08 wizzyrea       cloudy, for the first time in weeks
18:08 wizzyrea       but it says clear
18:08 wizzyrea       that's odd
18:08 wizzyrea       it doesn't look clear
18:09 * wizzyrea     actually goes OUTSIDE to check
18:09 oleonard       Crazy talk.
18:09 bg             man you all are like twice as hot as me -- 16 vs. 30
18:10 wizzyrea       ah yea, it's high thin clouds. I can see why they say clear. But that's still more clouds than we've had in weeks. :P
18:13 wizzyrea       ooooo
18:13 wizzyrea       the librarians want a "trending" display on the OPAC
18:13 libsysguy      MUHAHA oleonard loses the heat wave by .8 degrees
18:13 wizzyrea       such as
18:13 * oleonard     gives libsysguy an ice cream cone as a prize
18:13 wizzyrea       what items have the most checked out items
18:13 wizzyrea       which items have the most holds
18:14 * libsysguy    accepts oleonard's prized ice cream
18:14 * wizzyrea     puts ice down libsysguy's shirt as a prize
18:14 * wizzyrea     runs away laughing
18:14 oleonard       don't worry wizzyrea it will melt down his shirt on its own
18:15 Agent_Dani     wizzyrea: I'll take the ice here...might break the all-time record high here.
18:25 wizzyrea       those of you using redhat/fedora/centOS, there's an android app "Linux Cheat Sheet"
18:25 wizzyrea       that's free today
18:26 wizzyrea       I don't have much interest in it, but thought maybe someone here might
18:55 Brooke         0/
18:58 Agent_Dani     wizzyrea: Cool! I'll have to check that out.
18:59 wizzyrea       cait / kf
18:59 wizzyrea       about?
19:01 Brooke         you prolly have to @later
19:01 Brooke         cause I don't see either handle on
19:01 wizzyrea       ah it's all good I can ask her monday
19:02 Brooke         0/
19:02 SirDekar       alguien ha instalado Koha en español?
19:03 Brooke         no, lociento
19:03 Brooke         ha visto http://es.koha-community.org/?
19:04 SirDekar       si
19:05 Brooke         yuck, documentation is only english; spanish is a version behind and only in pdf
19:05 Brooke         at least what's linked.
19:05 wizzyrea       from es?
19:05 wizzyrea       ah yea I see
19:06 SirDekar       web installer can be installed in Spanish, right?
19:07 Brooke         *should*
19:07 Brooke         http://translate.koha-community.org/es/
19:10 SirDekar       clients/users know spanish
19:10 Brooke         plenty of them
19:10 SirDekar       just few of them could know english
19:10 SirDekar       all of them, I am from Panama, spanish speakers
19:11 * Brooke       nods.
19:11 Brooke         did you try and encounter a problem?
19:12 SirDekar       I am investigating
19:12 Brooke         *before* installation, or _after_? XD
19:16 SirDekar       :D
19:17 * Brooke       wishes she had been Spanish cataloguing sooner than last year...
19:21 Brooke         ¿tienes problemas ahorra? ¿o solo preguntas?
19:27 SirDekar       it was a problem
19:28 SirDekar       no I found a command to apply traslations
19:28 SirDekar       "$ cd misc/translator && perl install-code.pl fr-FR es-ES"
19:28 SirDekar       I'll see if this solve my problem
19:31 Brooke         I just feel bad that no native spanish speakers are on at the moment. There are a tonne that use Koha, so try the listserv if all else fails.
19:52 Brooke         anyone have a screen shot of the 2.0 staff welcome screen? You know, ole lime green?
19:56 SirDekar       I did it Brooke, thanks
19:57 SirDekar       that command I mentioned was left :P
19:57 SirDekar       had to start over
19:57 Brooke         outstanding :D
19:57 Brooke         sorry about the trouble
19:57 rhcl_away      some images on images.google.com, but I didn't see a welcome screen
19:57 SirDekar       don't worry it was my mistake
19:58 rhcl_away      but judging from some of the results a "koha" search term pulled I'd say google is using zebra as an indexer
19:58 Brooke         rhcl I think it happens because of all of the library 2.0 crap messin it up
20:00 rhcl_away      uh, no, I don't think anything library related would pull against some of the images that came up.
20:00 Brooke         kitty feeding time, brb
20:00 wizzyrea       you mean this one brooke
20:00 wizzyrea       http://gallery.katipo.co.nz/albums/album102/home_v2.sized.jpg
20:01 * wizzyrea     reminds rhcl_away to turn 'safe search' back on
20:02 rangi          http://photos.bigballofwax.co.nz/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=12
20:02 wizzyrea       ohsnap
20:02 wizzyrea       lookit all of those toolbars!
20:03 wizzyrea       and good morning
20:04 Brooke         no and no :(
20:04 Brooke         looking for the big old koru that had modules next to it
20:04 * Brooke       hopes that at least this slideshow will be of use to Ian if it's not gonna be at conference.
20:05 rangi          oh, the opac
20:05 wahanui        well, the opac is for patrons
20:05 rangi          that was only on the opac
20:05 wizzyrea       http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_MSt3k5WKZdA/TUpJsDrAOyI/AAAAAAAABRo/I8boAKsH9Fg/s1600/e.png
20:05 Brooke         that is the intranet, no?
20:05 wizzyrea       hm yea
20:06 Brooke         that is what I meant, so thanks :)
20:08 wizzyrea       i remember the very first time I installed koha
20:09 wizzyrea       and it looked like that
20:09 wizzyrea       and then I installed openbiblio :P
20:09 wizzyrea       obviously we saw the error of our ways
20:10 Brooke         it was loud, but more intuitive.
20:11 wizzyrea       mm I'm not sure I agree, but I respect your opinion.
20:12 Brooke         RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAY?!!$ !@$ ;)
20:12 Brooke         feel free to disagree
20:12 Brooke         that's usually how things get better. :D
20:13 Brooke         I just can't resist Cartman, where Cartman can be quoted.
20:17 Brooke         so uh
20:17 Brooke         who had that blogspot screenshot
20:17 Brooke         so I can credit it properly?
20:19 wizzyrea       uhhhhhh
20:20 wizzyrea       hmm
20:20 wizzyrea       http://mtech-ku.blogspot.com/2009/11/report-on-deployment-of-koha-at.html
20:20 Brooke         oh sweet
20:20 Brooke         Kathmandu
20:20 Brooke         practically local :D
20:21 wizzyrea       in 2009
20:21 wizzyrea       but in 09, we were on 3.0. That's bewildering.
20:22 wizzyrea       oh, nm
20:24 wizzyrea       also brooke
20:24 wizzyrea       http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_MSt3k5WKZdA/TUpJcK0rK5I/AAAAAAAABRk/p_ynZQqCAY0/s1600/c.png
20:24 rangi          ppl still install 2.2.5 now
20:24 * wizzyrea     thinks they might be crazy.
20:24 * Brooke       nods.
20:25 wizzyrea       but, it's their right
20:25 Brooke         a yep
20:48 wizzyrea       mah brain is not wurking.
20:48 Brooke         it's American Friday afternoon
20:48 Brooke         it doesn't have to work :)
20:49 wizzyrea       i don't want to count how many distinct individual biblionumbers in reserves, I want to count how many reserves per distinct biblionumber.
20:50 wizzyrea       i feel that this should be easier than I'm concieving it
20:50 * Brooke       nods and smiles.
20:50 wizzyrea       eiving it even
20:51 rangi          select count(*),biblionumber from reserves group by biblionumber;
20:51 wizzyrea       ok now I feel extra dumb.
20:51 wizzyrea       but thank you
20:51 wizzyrea       rangi++
20:52 rangi          right, time to atarau to play football, bbl
20:54 Brooke         hooray
20:54 Brooke         football!
20:54 Brooke         ata's gonna win
20:54 Brooke         I just know it!
21:54 wizzyrea       oh this is a fun report
21:54 wizzyrea       top 20 bibs with most items checked out
21:55 jcamins_away   Is one of them Twilight?
21:56 wizzyrea       yes
21:56 wizzyrea       any other guesses?
21:56 jcamins_away   Harry Potter?
21:56 wizzyrea       two of the books are in the top 20 yes
21:56 jcamins_away   Stieg Larssen?
21:56 jcamins_away   Book one and book seven?
21:56 wizzyrea       no, surprisingly
21:56 jcamins_away   (of HP)
21:56 wizzyrea       :) yep
21:57 wizzyrea       no to steig larssen
21:57 jcamins_away   That's what I figured.
21:57 jcamins_away   Okay, I have 3 of them.
21:58 wizzyrea       several of the twilight books
21:58 wizzyrea       Evanovich's newest
21:58 jcamins_away   George R.R. Martin?
21:58 wizzyrea       another surprising no
21:58 wizzyrea       however
21:58 jcamins_away   Okay, I'm not sure what else.
21:58 wizzyrea       I suspect if you looked at old_issues
21:58 wizzyrea       it'd be up there
21:58 wizzyrea       i'm not sure a lot of our libraries are buying multiple copies of martin
21:59 jcamins_away   Ah.
21:59 wizzyrea       more issues = (to an extent) more items purchased
21:59 wizzyrea       Tangled
21:59 wizzyrea       the DVD
21:59 wizzyrea       The hunger games trilogy
21:59 jcamins_away   Oh, of course!
21:59 wizzyrea       and how to train your dragon
21:59 wizzyrea       ^^ is surprising
21:59 jcamins_away   Don't know why I didn't think of Hunger Games.
21:59 wizzyrea       to me
22:00 wizzyrea       Patterson's new one is in there too
22:00 jcamins_away   Hm. I guess I should've thought of that, too.
22:01 wizzyrea       and with that, friends, I bid you adieu
22:01 wizzyrea       :)
22:01 jcamins_away   Good night.